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April 18, 2025 38 mins

Jason & Monse continue to dissect Aaron Rodgers comments on the separation between him and the Jets. NBA Insider Marc Stein joins the show to preview the Mavs v. Grizzlies Play In Game on Friday, who the dark horse in the Eastern Conference is & a nod to Lee Caroso after he announced his retirement!  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:50):
your family can just run that line with you when
you hang out with them and have dinner and hang.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Out on that I am an ask me. My Mom's
gonna be like ky kivy, he stay, what does that mean?
What did that mean?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
What do you mean you're an ass man? What does
that mean? I can't wait to tell that to my mom.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Mommy she's not listening. Now she might.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
She's actually flying out to Costa Rica tonight, so I
think she's probably running around like a chicken with her
head cut off for the moment, getting the you know,
the bags packed and all of that, and leaving the
house clean. You know how moms are.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Oh okay, yes, I bet you were on. I just
don't know if she's listening. I bet you we are on.
She's probably just not paying attention like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh okay, did my daughter just say my name on
the air? She just say my name on the air. Yeah,
Now is she going to place bets for you overseas?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
And she's gonna go see family?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
We're Costa Rican? I figured, okay, yeah, our whole family
is there. I literally only have my brothers and my
parents here. All eighty cousins are over there, all you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
So it's gonna be it.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
She's gonna go party bad mouth you. Monci never comes back.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I am the one who least comes back, That's true.
I haven't been there in a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, you never come back.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Like all the time they got like three times a year.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, yeah you go this time. I'm good, I got it.
We got games going on. Yeah, the NFL Draft is
in a week. I can't do it. Hey, It's like
it's like when everybody you know, and here's I feel
bad about this, but I'll pull the curtain back because
I don't think. Okay, I don't think some of my
family listening, so I can say this is that? And
any time where there's like a like a wedding that

(02:22):
I don't want to go to or some sort of event,
I go, is it is? It? Is it around something
big where I can say I can't get I can't
go because of this something around that. Can I can
I do? I can't care. Now, It's happened a couple
of times in the past where I just couldn't do
it because you know, hey there's something big is going on.
I can't do it. But there are times I go, oh,

(02:43):
that's gonna be one of those Oh can we say,
oh oh the draft, the draft? Yeah, I can't. I
can't get out the draft. Draft.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
I gotta I gotta be paying attentions.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Draft, can't do it. No, Okay, the drafts A big deal,
big deal, the draft, big deal, A big, big, big deal,
big deal. But I thought the draft was like no, no, no,
it's still going, still going, still going.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It's a whole week, the whole week process.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
But I thought it started on thirty. It didn't it
end on Sunday. No, no, No, they're in around thirteen
now yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still coming in.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's just a mixt.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's post came out the draft d Now it's still good.
It's still gone. Really yeah yeah yeah. Because because here's
the thing. I guarantee you this, and this is another
part of my family. If if the last time I
saw everybody, we had a family re union about seven
or eight years ago. That's when everybody was there and
still you know, my whole life. I guarantee you if
like when we would go back, if I see my

(03:33):
family on Staten Island now or Syracuse wherever they are,
they would all say to me.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
You were aware, now are you where are you now?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
You were at ESPN? No, And then now that's it's
been a Fox for ten years, Fox are ten Oh
right right, right right right, I'm not up that late. No, No,
I get it, I got You're where you're But then
I realized it's okay, because you asked me what some
of my cousins do, I go, I don't know, No
doubt they do. I don't even know the name is
all my cousins. Oh yeah, the family gets too big.
I'm like, I don't even know. I don't even know

(04:03):
how many cousins.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I like, babies of the cousins.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's It's like, who's that one related to see?

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
This is Pete. Pete right, Pete, yes, yes, great, of okay,
you know what I need? I need Like in Veep,
where Tony Hall would always walk around with Julie Louise Drivers,
I would always tell her who she's meeting. Oh, this
is a guy he hit on you at that party.
He was really drunk. Oh, good to see you for that.
I need somebody next to we go. This is this
is Maggie. She's your cousin. Hey Maggie, I can see you. Okay, great, great?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I need never seen Veep but Devil Worst Prada and
Hathaway does.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
That for Meryl Streep? Oh yeah, okay, I remember, Oh
this gentleman is.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
First Emily Blunt did it, and then she didn't do
it well.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
In her correct and now and so I got you. Yeah,
but I've never seen veep.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's all. That's all speaking of, that's all.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. Oh, that's all because the
Jet's told him. That's all. That's all. Today was a
big day for Aaron Rodgers because we got the most
out of him today and just an oh, by the way,
free wheeling appearance on the Pat mcafe show, more than
any of his other carefully crafted appearances of the last
few months, because he has a couple of things to

(05:15):
say today that was just like, oh my goodness. Now
he talked about last hour that he sounds like a
guy who's done. He's ninety five percent retired. He's just
waiting to make it official so he can control as
much of the news cycle and the decision as he can.
He's not someone that's retiring because no one's signing him, right.
He doesn't want that. So he's gonna wait until he's
ready and make that announcement because if he wanted to play,

(05:36):
he'd play. If you want he he knows team. This
is when teams gear up, this is when teams signed players.
I know, I know. So if he really wanted to play,
he'd be playing. But he also had a really big
let's throw the Jets under the bus moment where he
talked about how he knew and found out he was
getting let go by the Jets. Here he is explaining
that the Jets called him and want him to come

(05:57):
back to New York for a big meeting, and let
Rogers tell you how things went from there.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
I was kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I
didn't think that was a possibility. Listen, of course they
want to move on, that's totally fine, but shocked because
I just flew across the country. You could have told
me this on the phone if we'ren't even to have
a conversation. And this is verbatim exactly how it happened.
So I said, huh, and he goes, we just want
to know how you want it released the messaging, and

(06:25):
I said, verbatim, I don't give it about the message
And I said why, And then he said, I don't
want to be up in front of the room saying
something and have guys looking back at you.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Interesting, And I said, what does that even mean?

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Are you assuming that I would be in the back
of the room during the team meeting, undermining what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I said, you don't know me.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
And he said you don't know me, and then I said, exactly,
which is why I flew across the country to have
a face to face meeting with you to talk about
my experience with the Jets.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
So that was him talking about new Jets head coach
Aaron Glenn. Right. That was the meeting they had, and
that's how it went. Now, first things first, because this
this is a this is a this is a big
personal thing where Rogers goes in about They could have
told me this on the phone. They had me fly
to New York. Now, should the Jets have paid for
his flight? Yeah, but Jet's gonna jet Aaron. Right. I

(07:24):
told you, Aaron when you signed, you don't know where
you're going. Nah, No, I'm good. Huh, you don't know
where you're going? You know know, I'm telling you this
is the Jets, Right, Jet's gonna if you're gonna bring
a guy in to fire him, maybe pay for his flight. Right, Hey,
you fly and we give you a lot of money.
We did all this, but this is how you do it.
You want to do it the right way. So that's
the thing, but this hole. We could have done this
on the phone. This is the biggest I'd say that

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criticizing that part of it. We see this very often
in different walks of life, where oh, you're gonna fire me,
You could have done it on the phone, and you
had me come all way in and do this. That's weak,
Whereas the same reaction could have been, I can't believe
you fired me over the phone. You couldn't do it
in person, face to face. Right, everybody is different, and

(08:11):
everybody's going to be triggered by one side of that,
no matter what, right, so, no matter what is Like
I could see RT could have said you believe they
did it on the phone, and Pat Mac said whoa
man on the phone and on the phone, like That's
how it could have went. But instead they decided to
bring him it, which is the right default. Hey, if
we don't know how to handle this the right let's
do it in person, because that's always the right thing

(08:32):
to do it. I don't think people can really get
that upset. They are, of course they're going to be upset,
but doing it, Hey, we did it the right way.
We called you in, we talked to you, and we
had a face to face conversation. Again, should have paid
for his flight, absolu. That's kind, that's that's a case
by case basis, and people get wound up one way

(08:52):
or another, and it's really haphazard and some ways people
would get mad no matter what they did. You're firing me.
I'm just gonna be mad. I'm mad you called me in.
What if he did on the phone, I'd be mad
that you didn't call me in, Like that's how it
would have went. So that part that is really overrated
for me because just knowing how I see people get
let go and how you believe they did it on
the phone. Oh, that's no class man, that's terrible.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
That's this.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Now that's a little bit of Okay. Aaron Rodgers is
pushing that narratively. And again I'm not defending the Jets
because again, Jet's gonna jet, and they could have they
could have paid for his flight, could have had him
come in, say let's do it at your earliest convenience
and have this. And this conversation didn't sound like it
went great, but the whole oh you could have done
this on the phone. Yeah, then you would have found
a way to say, can you believe they did it

(09:35):
on the phone, and that would have been a big
criticism as well.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Excellent point, Jason.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Throughout he was on the show for like forty five minutes,
and he did seem relaxed and chatty for the most
of it. Until this moment it looked like he tends
step when talking about this.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, because he kept saying a hundred times going they
don't want this out there, Like when the live ad
was fritzing in and out, he kept saying, they don't
want this out there. They're doing something. They're doing the Like, dude,
what do you think the Jets, the have hacked into
the feed. They don't want this story getting out there.
They don't want this out or someone at ESPN is
hacking in the feed. We don't want Aaron Rodgers saying
something incendiary on our air. I mean, come on, man,

(10:11):
Like Aaron, what are you doing? Dude?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
He's doing is literally what you said.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
The narrative, not just the narrative of his retirement that
I think is happening in live time because nobody there
is no good option for him to go to. Uh,
We've talked about the Steelers. It doesn't seem like the
right fit. So it's happening kind of forcing his hand
to retire, but he's also trying to control the narrative
of how things ended with the Jets. He's trying to

(10:38):
have us have an opinion. But you're so right, I
can't get I'm thinking about when I was fired one
time and I said to the person, you could have
done this over the phone. You made me come all
the way in here.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
To fire me. That happened I was when you brought that.
I was like, you're right. I said that, yeah, because
I was mad that I wanted to walk into it.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
And if think did it over the phone, you would
have said, yeah, you know, we waste me to come in.
You're terrible.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
You could tell me about face. That's what I would
have said. But in that moment I was mad that they.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, you would have been mad no matter what, right,
no matter what, you would have been mad, matter what,
the only way you would have been mad. And this
is why I like doing doing it doing it in
person is because I think everybody who gets fired there
should be a cake. Because you're still getting fired, but
at least there's cake.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Let me tell you what it was being fired, And
there was cake. Here's you would go flying. Here's your
your fired cake, that would go flying. I mean your
fire cake. You say thank you on it. We're just
gonna have cake.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, no, that would go on someone's face.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Wow. Really?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Absolutely, you're giving me a cake and you're firing me.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Okay, if I'm not gonna eat it, I'd like to
see that. I think that's pretty good. You know, like
I would not handle that well. It'd be like one
of those clip shows off his Cakes gone wrong. You
would see what this woman did after she was fired.
This is Monty Bolanos of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I don't know. I feel like I would be. I
would feel so disrespected.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Hold on, you're firing me and then you had a
cake forone to celebrate that you fired me.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
She took a cake and threw it in Alex Tye,
sir it's face and it wasn't even his decision. Would
if someone brought in the cake. All right, let's say
if someone got fired.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Someone brought in the cake because they got fired.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
They're gonna be upset and maybe you're the closest person
and he throw the cake in your face. Not that
you would do anything, but you just happen to be closed.
Let me have some of that. See that? That I
think that I think is is is a sports show
for like ESPN seven people throwing cake and you have
whoever eats the most cake that's thrown after their face?
Like that's that's a show. Okay, that's a show. I'm down,

(12:31):
all right, that's the show.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Are you trying to catch the cake as it's being
thrown like or.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
You're catching it in your mouth? It's like blue man.
They're throwing they're throwing the marshmallows and you got to
catch them and eat them. Whoever eats the most amount
of cake? You know that would think that's a thing already?
Really is it that already happened? Like DJ does that Stevie? Ok?
I think he throws cakes at people?

Speaker 7 (12:51):
Really?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah? But is there a contest about who can eat
the most cake? No?

Speaker 8 (12:55):
I think like people just want to get caked because
it's just getting hit with the cake. Yeah, like they're
in the audience like hitt me.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
But but I'm taking it next level of now it's
a contest about who can eat the cake that's thrown
at that at you?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah you got to catch it.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, you got to catch it, like if I try
to throw a snack at you, But we're throwing cake,
not an M and M.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Can we use cupcakes to that? Would that that?

Speaker 9 (13:15):
That?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hang on a second. Let's just get the cake down first, though,
and then we can move on to span. They move
on the cupcakes now, well, because cupcakes you could catch
in your mouth.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Oh okay, yeah, but cake is messy. It's harder to throw.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
No, I want to I want to throw chunks of cake.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I want to like, I want to dig my hand
in the cake and.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I want to throw cake. No, no, no, but you
gotta dig your hand. It's got to have some kind
of my hand in the cake.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
And I want to throw it at someone.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Trestes Okay, sure, sure, there you go. That's a new show.
That's a new show.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
We're full of ideas tonight. Don't forget about our movie.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Oh right, no, no, no, we got the pyramid and you know,
and the other the other part is this Alexandre Clencio,
this show is going on show is amos? Uh yeah,

(14:13):
all right?

Speaker 9 (14:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
The other part, like you heard Aaron Rodgers say, hey,
you know, I I I didn't really demand anything. I'm
trying to get to know you, and and e C.
We talks about how, oh you're worried. I'm going to
uh be the fly in the ointment that I'm going
to be able to I'm gonna try to u subserve
your message that I'm going to be the real leader.

(14:37):
And when you say something to the team, they're gonna
look at me and go, what should we do? Aaron
and the coach and and I get that part of it, right,
I get that part of it. Does it seem weird that, Hey,
I don't know what kind of guy you are? Uh? Yeah,
but you know what, this is kind of how teams
do it. They just don't tell you that, right, But
other teams have done. Hey, when a new coach comes in,

(14:57):
guess what he gets rid of guys who may not
be performing enough, who may be a voice against them
in the locker room, trying to build a culture. And
guess what. The Jets culture sucked. You can blame Aaron
Rodgers much as you want. The Jets' culture was terrible, right,
it was terrible. So hey, I gotta come in and
do my own thing. And you being the guy that
comes in, and hey, everybody knew when I was missing camp,

(15:17):
and I don't know what kind of hold you have
on the team. We're starting over here. So like it normally,
that's how it happens. It's just normally isn't said to
your face. So if Roger's upset that they said that
to his face, I get it. But dude, this is
kind of a normal thing and how it happens across leagues.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah, this is very normal, and he shouldn't be surprised.
It's like Aaron Rodgers. You are a polarizing athlete, You're
a polarizing player in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
You can't be.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Surprised that somebody knew taking over an organization may not
want to deal with you. He cannot be surprised. But
you know, his ego is a little bit hurt. Maybe
I'm telling you, I really don't think he had retirement
on his plan. I think he really intended to play,
not necessarily with the Jets, but I really do think
he intended to play another season and maybe stick it

(16:06):
to the Jets, you know what I'm saying. And so
this is just it's he's kind of being forced the hand.
But I agree, you cannot be surprised, and he kind
of said that he's like, not surprised that they did it,
because they could do that, but you're surprised at what
they said when it's quite honest what they said.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, like you you would be kind of a thorn here.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, like he made he made him say, hey, look
at what they did. It's like, oh no, no, that
was kind of matter of fact. I get why they did.
I get why they did it exactly. I get it.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's how it's surprised.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
But they did it to me. Yeah no, I he
got that. Yeah, yeah they did it. Yeah, but that's
how things go. Like this is how I mean, may
be new to him because how many times that been
done to him over the courses are probably never, But
now it happens when you're at the end and they're
moving on all of a sudden, you kind of reap
what you sell a little bit. Understand, the Jets weren't
the big meanies and the big awfuls and all of this.

(16:59):
I can't believe.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I'm no, they were being logical.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's like the first un ever said that it's not
the Jets fault, Like that's it's always the Jets fault.
That is not the Jets' fault like Wow, not today,
the world is upside down? Monsey all right, exit out
bout a Fresca Exit Swallen Dome, Jason Smith, Monsey and
from Mike Harmon Tonight. Coming up next, NBA Analyst extraordinaire
insider Mark Stein stops by Who's heading into the playoffs

(17:22):
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Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, here we go, set for the final games of
the playing round. Tomorrow night is my dark horse pick
of the Dallas Maverick's gonna get out of the playing
Round with another big game from ad I called it Monci.
I called it, you did. I didn't call the bulls though,
beause they let.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Me down never again.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Joining us now on the hot line to break that
down and more. Longtime NBA inside are longtime front of
the show. You can follow him on Twitter at the Steinline.
That is, at the Stein Line. It's Mark Stein. What's happening, man?
How are you?

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I am good? I hope everybody there is good?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
So is everybody better in Dallas after winning the game
last night? And everybody to forgive Nico, Harrison and man
know the answers now, But is anything better after winning
the game and getting set for the other game tomorrow night?

Speaker 5 (18:44):
You've asked me the same question two weeks? How many?
How many times are you gonna ask me this question?

Speaker 9 (18:52):
Well?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I figure every time I ask you after a win,
things have to get better at some point, right list.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Mark, he doesn't get it. He doesn't get it.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
They need many many wins, many many many wins before
people around here field. But no, Look, the players had
nothing to do with this.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
And there are still obviously a lot of MAVs fans
who want on court success and they're going to celebrate wins.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
But I mean it doesn't last. It doesn't last too
long after the buzzer, all.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Right, but for tomorrow, so so for tomorrow's game, at
least they'll have the two and a half hours of
the game. John Morant questionable for this game tomorrow. The
Grizzlies coming off that really heartrending loss to the Warriors.
Is this a Mavericks win? Grizzlies get it done? How
do you see this game?

Speaker 7 (19:46):
War I do kind of think Dallas is going to
come out of there with the win because, yeah, the
players are pretty motivated because the noise hasn't been fun
for them. I think they actually function better on the
road at this point because you know, there's so much

(20:06):
tension at and look, no homegame really that Luca game
is what was one of a kind and not every home.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Game is like that.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
But to go out on the road as a number
ten seed, and you know, take the whole US against
the World approach, and look, you know they went into
Sacramento and played some really good defense. I mean they
don't have they're very thin at guard right now because
you know, no Kyrie Irving and the injuries they've had.

(20:38):
But look, John Moran's gonna play I think we know
he's going to try, but how offensive can he realistically be?
I mean that ankle twist did not look good.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
So I do think.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
There is an opportunity here for the MAVs to win.
And let's face it, a number ten seed in the
history of the plan has never won the two games
you need to advance, and so both Miami and Dallas
have a chance to do it tomorrow and that spices
up the final day of the play into some degree.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
So for Jason, the dark horse in the Western Conference
is the MAVs. Who is the dark horse in the
Eastern Conference?

Speaker 9 (21:19):
Mark Well, I mean, if we're going to widen the widen,
there's Lens and you know, look beyond just the play
and I think beyond yes, Troit Detroit in New York
can be an interesting series and Jason's not going to
want to hear that either.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
I don't. I don't think the Pistons are going to
win that series, but they have absolutely nothing to lose
and it's going to be you know there. I think
this is the first time since the year two thousand
that both the Lions and the Pistons made the playoffs
in the same season, So people in Detroit are really

(21:57):
excited to have this opportunity, and you know, we know
Detroit is a very physical team.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
You know, I do think the Knicks will win the.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
Series, but I think they're gonna have to work. Sorry, Jason, Hey.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm okay. Working to win is okay, as long as
it's not like last year's second round series where every
game we lose somebody because they get hurt. Now he
lost down or no, but now we're going to lose
this guy. As long as that happens, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think that's and I have
to say, I think Indiana Milwaukee is another good first
round matchup because those teams really don't like each other.
And the Bucks appeared to get some promising news today
with the you know, Damian Lillard has had this very
scary blood clot situation and he's working his way back

(22:45):
and they're not going to have him in Game one,
but now it looks like they are going to get
him back at some point in this series. But it's funny,
you know, we never talk about the Pacers.

Speaker 9 (22:55):
Jason always asked me about the Mavericks never, I don't
think ever ever on the show, be about the Pacers.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
But if you really pay attention to it, since the
calendar flip to twenty twenty five, the Pacers have the
fourth best record in the league, only the three sixty
win teams. Only OKC, Cleveland and Boston have been better
in the calendar year than the Pacers. They've really had
a strong second half finished. So I think I think
that series has a chance to be pretty good as well.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
NBA.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Inside of Mark Stein, our guest here on Fox Sports Radio,
all right, now, you had a really big bit today.
I saw this on Twitter that sources were telling you that, hey,
maybe it seemed like a FATA complete with the with
the with the Phoenix. Suns want to you know, blow
torch things and start over next year, and everybody wants
to put Kevin Durant on the Rockets. Uh, you have
reported not so fast on that with Katie to the Rockets.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
Yeah, that's It's really been a constant conversation all season.
And the reason is because you know, the Rockets have
control of multiple future first round picks. So if you're
the Suns natural you'd want to get picks back. If
you're going to be trading Kevin Durant so I have
no doubt that on the Sun's wish list, if the

(24:08):
Sons are really going to trade Kevin Durant, they would
love to do it with the Houston Rockets.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
And that is not to it's not meant to suggest.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
I mean the Rockets obviously, you know who doesn't like
Kevin Durant. And Ema Udoka, their coach, is close to
Kevin Durant. He coached him as an assistant in Brooklyn,
and they're tight. And you know, it's not a matter
of the Rockets are not that they don't admire Kevin Durant.
But the reality is the messaging out of Houston has

(24:36):
been consistent all year long. The next major move they make.
The first message was it's not going to be in season.
They're not going to make a big in season change,
and they held firm to that that didn't happen. They
didn't want to do anything. They wanted to let this
team have it the whole season to see what it
could do. And the message has also been that when

(24:58):
the Rockets do strike big, the next big move we
see from the Rockets, they wanted to be for someone
who was on the same timeline or at least closer
to the same timeline as all these great young players
that they have amassed, and you know, they have a
slew of guys who are you know, twenty three and younger.
So Kevin Durant is a Hall of Famer, but you know,

(25:19):
he's also in his mid thirties. That's not the kind
of target that I think Houston is going to be
trying to acquire in its next big trade and certainly
not giving up the super valuable draft capital that they've
been able to get from Phoenix. So you know, they
would have been interested in Donovan Mitchell, but Donovan Mitchell
never made us the open market. The Cavs successfully signed

(25:42):
Donovan Mitchell on a contract extension. But you know it,
it keeps coming up. And part of the reason it
comes up today, you know, Phoenix, Matt Ishbia, James Jones,
Josh Bartlestein, they all spoke, They all did an end
of the season media availability, and the Suns did not
deny what is talked about pretty openly throughout the league.

(26:02):
The expectation around the league is that the Sons will
work with Kevin Durant to try to find him a
new home via trade that he likes and people just
constantly connect Katie to Houston, I think largely because of
his relationship with im a Udoka. But I just I
don't see the Rockets giving up a slew of assets

(26:25):
to bring in Kevin Durant at this stage in his career.
I think the Rockets are going into a series. I mean,
talk about a really interesting matchup. You've got this young Houston, young, hungry, athletic,
defensive minded Houston team. Yes they've got Van Vliet and
Brooks and Steven Adams, but you know, there's not a
lot of experience there playoff wise for their main young

(26:50):
guys going up against the Warriors, who obviously have tons
of experience. I mean, this is really going to be
going to It's going for the Rockets. This is going
to be like going to play off University to play
the Warriors, even though the Rockets are the two seed
and the Warriors of the seventh seed. I mean that series,
you know, same thing in the West. You know two seven, Houston,

(27:11):
Golden State four or five, Nuggets and Clippers, Lakers and
Wolves three six, and we have some really good first
round matchups.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Mark another player that's maybe on the trade block, Zion
Williamson and the Pelicans, how much truth is behind that?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
And also what is his real value?

Speaker 4 (27:29):
He has not played many games throughout his career for
various reasons.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
He was a number one overall pick, but what is
his real value?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
What is a possible destination for Zion Williamson? What do
you think.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
You're starting to make me miss Jason's questions with a
question that hard because I can't, I don't. I mean
that it is a really hard question. I mean, you
just laid out exactly why. I mean, you know, if
if the Pelicans are going to move him, because he's
a former number one overall pick, they're obviously going to
try to get a quote haul for him, But how

(28:06):
can they win? Four out of the six seasons that
he's been in the NBA, he has not passed the
thirty game mark in terms of games play. So I
think Joe Dumars is going to go in there and
you know, try to get the best read he can.
Will he come to the conclusion that the best move
is trading Zion Williams in presumably what he can get

(28:29):
back in terms you.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Know, you know, can he get a haul back?

Speaker 7 (28:34):
And if he can't, maybe they decide to bring him
back and retool around. I mean the one, you know,
the Pelicans, one thing they have going for them, even
though they had an absolutely miserable season filled with injuries. Again,
I mean, they started four in twenty nine and everyone
on their team was heard.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
It was not just Zion this season.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Jean Say Murray broke his hand in his Pelicans debut
and it was just nothing but injuries after that the
whole first half and even beyond the first half. There
is a lot of talent there. I mean, the Pelicans
do have a lot of optionality because they have a
lot of good players, and though there's a lot of
different directions they can go in terms of how to

(29:14):
build their team. But I mean to tell to be
able to pinpoint for you exactly what kind of offer,
what kind of market the Pelicans could generate for Zion Williamson.
I think that is one of the foremost tasks that
Joe Dumar's face is now in taking on this job.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline. That is at the Steinline.
Check out all his latest on Kevin Durant, that story
involving that may or may not involve the Rockets substack
as well, Mark has always appreciated, enjoyed the games. We'll
talk to you next week.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
And just to be clear, I only came on the
show because Brionna is a titan.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Talk to you guys next week.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, Manti's a titan too, Mark, really.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
See, I mean this is info I needed.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
So two thirds of the cast has the proper pedigree.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
You will work, We'll work on it.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'll try, Mark, I'll try.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Take it.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Easybody, Yeah, I didn't know that. So everybody here went
to cal State Fullerton apparently apparently apparently you went, and
and Brianna went. Tysher didn't go to college. He went
to defraud Institute Technology. No that's not true. No, you
went to and at the end they gave you your
own set of tools. I didn't qualify trying to get in.
Oh okay, all right, all right, No, where'd you go

(30:32):
to school?

Speaker 9 (30:33):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
There's schools? What do you mean? Uhh yeah? Listen, Oh Po,
By the way, you are all weak. Your week, Your
week too, Brianna, your week? Two Monsie, none of you
can remember your class prom song? How did none of
you remember? It's it's not been long ago for you, guys.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I just throwing me off by prom.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, your your your class song? Which is your prom song?
Which becomes your song?

Speaker 10 (30:56):
That play the pro interchangeable. I don't think they're the scene.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Did you say maybe it was David Cook?

Speaker 9 (31:01):
Really?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay, it's better. It's better that you didn't remember it.
If you're telling me David Cook.

Speaker 10 (31:06):
Wait, I'm sorry, what did you have a Cook do
to you?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
American?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
You have Taylor Hicks?

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Was he was?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
He?

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Was?

Speaker 10 (31:10):
He middle school?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
So it could have been.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
Taylor Hicks County is pretty questionable.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Was a fantasia Marino? Was it a man?

Speaker 9 (31:17):
Was?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Whoever?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Was good?

Speaker 9 (31:18):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (31:18):
And well it was? Was Chris Daughtry one of your.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Uh as.

Speaker 10 (31:25):
Clay Aikin was actually like that was you know? He
had like one good song, you know he did Invisible.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You can't make it to the end of of of
American Idol and not have at least one good song.

Speaker 10 (31:35):
But we can all agree that Kelly Clarkson is the
best American.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Was William Hung? That was he?

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Then?

Speaker 10 (31:40):
Was he the guy that yeah, she bangs, she banged?

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
That was William Hung and the Hung jury from Arrested Development.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I think I think Carrie under Yeah, I think Carrie Underwood.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Kelly Clarkson Hot Tank for what Best American Idol Winner?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Okay, Williams, she moves.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I go crazy because she moves like you.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Want to trial with Judge Reinhold by William Hung and
the Hungery. I'm looking for the woman You're looking for
the one? Fox Sports Radio, what looking for Look?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
To find f S one on your television, go to
foxsports dot com for details f S one.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Looking for Look?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh so we got the same song again though? All right,
it's fine absolutely. Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show
with Monsey Belos in for Mike Harmon tonight, Looking for
the Woman You're looking for the all right, this is
my head line.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, and someone called I know, but is it looking
for the woman You're looking for the one?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I see, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Okay. I don't know how I did the thing, how
it happened. I was there. It's kind of like Chicken
Jockey all of a sudden became a thing.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
You know.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
It's a caller for the acuple. He just called in
and he's like, what's that guy saying? He's like and
we're like, what do you mean? He's like, it goes
logg A photo one man lugging photo one. Yeah, and
I just put it into our promo and he decided
to say it. Yeah, so I just put in the promo. Okay,
he sounds better than little Win anyways, chicken jockey.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
All right, so, uh, big news today in the world
of sports, Lee Corso retiring from ESPN. He's gonna do
one more college game Day. Ninety years old. He's gonna
do one more game day. First week of the season.
He's got a couple of big games to choose from, right,
he got Alabama, Florida State. Week one of the season,
you got Texas. They have a couple of big games.

(33:36):
And this is someone who has been synonymous with college
football for the better part of the past fifty years.
It's been Lee Corso. And I still remember when he
did his very first I'm gonna make a pick and
put the head of the mascot on, which was in
nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
And the thing is, like, you know it, And this
is why this is such genius, is that you know
it's coming. You know he's gonna put one of the
heads on, and still it's hysterical, like you know, you know,
it's like you know it's a comedian where you know
the punchline that's coming, you know what's gonna be said,
and it's still funny anyway, And that takes a lot
to pull something like that off. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter

(34:14):
if he pulls out the home team head, if he
pulls out the visiting team head, he puts it on,
everybody goes crazy. It's just it's an incredible moment that
he's able to replicate, you know, fifteen times a year
for the for the past thirty five years. It's been
an incredible run for.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Him, and it's just something that, you know, I feel
like if somebody try to do that now, they'd be like, Oh,
they just want attention. They're just doing it because they
want attention. But doing it back then, that's not the
first thing you think of. It was just like, this
is funny, This isn't the moment. It was organic and
for it to last so long because it was organic. Today,
if somebody did that, I feel like Peo would be like, Oh,

(34:50):
they're just trying to get attention, and it's gonna it's
gonna suck to not see that anymore because it is icon.
I remember the first time I saw it. I was like,
what is he doing. He's just putting it on, and like, no,
that's this thing he puts it on.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
He makes a pack. I had no idea the first
until the first time I saw it, I was like, oh,
I love that. Yeah, I wish I would have thought
of that.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I actually have a Lee Corso story class. It's the
moment I knew when I was going to be a
content person.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Okay, I knew.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
So after I graduated from from Syracuse, I started. I
interned with the marketing department at ESPN and New York
City and that's right when I finished, they said, what
do you want to do? I said, I want to
interview in Bristol. I want to work at you know,
I work in Sports Center all this. So that's that's
how my career started. But I was I was an
intern and one of the things we did was we
were in charge of doing the big, the big promotion

(35:38):
for ESPN for the fall, like we're covering all the games.
So I went to Bristol with a bunch of you know,
the directors of the commercial everything else, and we had
a bunch of talent coming in recording them saying stuff
to put together in promos that they can air. So
we're on the It happened to be a Thursday night
and it was the very first college football game of
the year, right, so Thursday. This is like nineteen nineteen

(36:00):
ninety three, so two years before Lee Corso did this
and started doing this. And so we're sitting there and
everybody's talking and they said, okay, you know, the game started,
So now we have a half hour with Chris Fowler
and Lee Corso and who are the A couple other
people he needs. Okay, great, So we're just talking about stuff,
right and we're talking about different things, and they talk, Oh,
the game coming up next week and all of this.
He goes, oh, yeah, then we got Syracuse on of

(36:21):
course me serio, I go, Syracuse is gonna win the
Big East this year? And Fowler looks at me and says,
did you go there? I said, yeah, yeah, of course,
I just graduated from there. And I said, I'm telling
you got a great team this year. And that had
a really good team. I think Marvin Graves is a quarterback.
I said, I've got a really good team this year.
And Leak Corsa just goes, no, Rutgers, and I said,
what he says, Rutgers best defensive line, best kicking game

(36:43):
in the Big East. Rutgers is going to win the
Big East this year. He said, hey, hey, hey, he and
he hits. Chris Fowler says, hey, write that down. I
want to do that. I want to do that. There,
I'm like, oh, I just created content for leak Corso,
like all of a sudden, not even asking, I just said,
oh you, Fowler goes ah, did you go to SERI? Yeah,
I series Lee Corts goes no, Rutgers will win the

(37:05):
Big East.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Okay, so now I have to ask who won the
Big East.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Well, not Syracuse and not run Rutgers. Miami won the
Big East.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Miami went at that.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
It actually came down to the final game of the season.
Syracuse needed to beat Miami to win, and Miami beat
us by a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Oh no, so you you were more on top of
it than he was.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I was closer, but the fact but he just
said he just he just he hit the table and
went no, no, Rutgers.

Speaker 10 (37:30):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Hey, I want to talk about that, like, I want
that to be you ask he was gonna win the
Big East. I want to talk about Rutgers. Oh okay,
Rutgers gonna win the Big East this year? Okay, all right, fine,
all of a.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Sudden, I'm producing.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, this out works, so like I get a future
in this business here. I've just done the whole thing
with Lee Corso he dis agreed with me. That was
like first take, like, you know, fifteen years before it
even started.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
You're no, Rutgers wins the Big East? And how about
how about picking Rutgers to win the Big East?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
And wow, yeah, no, that's surprising.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I was, I was, I was wondering who he was
going to tell you no over over Syracuse.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
But Rutgers, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah no no not Miami, no, no, no, no, no,
Rutgers are going Okay. Now, speaking of people listening to
the show, last night, we told you there was pretty
solid evidence that the Giants listened to the show. Now
I'm pretty sure another NFL team absolutely listens to the show.
Wait'll we hear what they had to say today about
the NFL Draft. That's next, Jason and Monsei Fox
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