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May 23, 2025 • 39 mins

In Hour 4 of The Jason Smith Show, Jason and Mike discuss the Timberwolves drama revolving around Julius Randle being benched in the loss , the future of Paul Skenes & MORE!  

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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside Final Hour tonight to Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Tony, gotta got that
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Did you like the logos?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I said, yes, logo looks great. Which one did you like? Boy?
I like them both. Let me I'll pick out the
one I like the most. Now, I like the one
with the to the guy with us. I like the
one with the not strong not strong muscles.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
You don't like the strong man?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, not not the strong man.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
The puff that's awesome, but that's not what like? Why
if the guy's that buffy? Because it's yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm not quite a lucha door, but has that power.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I didn't think about that that now, I didn't think
about that. That is a good Jo Hoobo. I didn't
think about that. You know what. That's like a good
logo for the back of the T shirt maybe because
we have you have the face in the o and
then like on the back of that. But I have
Mucho Hobo's pretty good. There you go, And you bought
the domain to Mucho hobo dot com to really do that.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
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Speaker 1 (01:38):
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Speaker 3 (01:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
Hobo dot that's a lot of o's Mucho Hobo. Okay,
we'll see if Mucho hobo dot com works. I think
it would work for one of those simple sites that
that says like, did did Ohio State beat Michigan today? No,
this makes it, you know, three four and seventy four
days since Ohio State beat Michigan something like that. I
like the Muccho Hobo be be in that kind of site.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
This might be the encapsulated rundown of what we do
each show, right each segment, so I can then point
back to the iHeartRadio app so you can download the podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Maybe makes it a studio Ghibli Mucho, So we could
do that too.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Maybe could we could do like different car animation styles
in Mucho Hobo?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, now, hey, uh with this quick NFL storre. We
talked about the college football play a few minutes ago. Uh,
this quick before we get into a rivalry that I
don't think we're going to have this year that we
were all banking on having all the big change in
the NFL yesterday. And look, obviously the Nicks and the
Pacers game one took over for ridiculously bad reasons. But

(02:54):
you know, we talked a lot about the Tush push
today and how really the NFL has to understand their
galvanized the Eagles with this. It's giving them something to
rally around. It's making them stronger. I mean, it's it's
really I mean, just let it go.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Let the anti kryptonitis what you're saying, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Like, let it go. Every team has something they ray.
All winning teams have stuff they rally around. There's things
they do, and when you have that special extra something,
it helps. And you know, we talked about OMG with
the Mets last year. We talked about when your White
Sox won, it was it was don't stop believing all
these teams have that crazy. When the Blues won the
Stanley Cup, that was Gloria and a Tea. A local

(03:32):
radio station in Saint Louis played Gloria for twenty four
hours the day after the Blues won the Cup, Like
you need stuff like that. All you're doing with this
whole band, the Tushbush band, the Tushbush is you're feeding
that fire to the Eagles. And it's not like the
tush pushes a play that. Hey, they run it all
the time, and they make it all No, two years
ago somewhat unstoppable, last year not nearly as much. You

(03:53):
can stop it. And it's something that you need fourth
in the yard or less than the yard. It's not like, hey,
every third and three were converted, right, It's it's not
that big a deal. It's it's it's it's overblown. The
story was overblown from the beginning. Too much attention was
spent on it. Now the NFL should realize all we're
doing is empowering the Eagles with something to rally around.
It's just walk away from it, right, just walk away.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, but just keep going back to the idea though
that part of it is. It's the unstoppable play, and
it's non football. It's not aesthetically pleasing some of those
arguments that have come to Eventually we'll have all sorts
of health things like you know what, I was under
the pile and uh, you know I had problems there
after some folk was there was reports there was one
ownership group trying to claim that's why Kelsey had to retire.

(04:38):
Not hey, I made a lot of money, I had
a good run, I won a super Bowl. See you later.
But but all of that to say, it's like, do
we now start taking everything? You know, a halfback dive
now it's not sexy. I mean, the guy made break
a tackle, but most of the time he falls down
at the line of scrimmage after a game of one
or two. So is that gone? Due may come out
what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I know? But the other thing that came out of
yesterday that's gonna be a bigger deal, okay, is they
have now changed the on sidekick. Right now, Now you
can do it anytime in a game, but you have
to say when you're gonna do it. So okay, not
really helping because the whole part of the on side
kick is the surprise. Obviously there's the end of the
game on sidekick, but the surprise, right, but now you can't. Hey,

(05:19):
guess what, We're gonna surprise you with an on side kick,
so you have to say it. But at least it
allows you to do the on sidekick whenever you want to.
But I mean, who's gonna take advantage of that, because
again it's about the surprise. But the big change is
now players on the team are allowed to line up
a yard closer to the football. And think about all

(05:41):
the on side kicks where you see, oh wow, a
clean play was made by a guy catching it and
the defender just needed another yard to get there, or
a yard and a half to get there where he
could have stuck out his hand, could have got the ball,
could have laid a hit on the guy. I know
a yard doesn't seem like it's a big deal, but
the NFL wants the on sidekick to become a play

(06:02):
right when you're down to under eight percent overall and
on side kick, it needs to change now. In its hey,
at its best, the on side kick was about somewhere
between fifteen and twenty percent. And I'll tell you moving
moving a yard closer to the ball. Letting the kicking
team move a yard closer. That's gonna get this up
from eight percent to fifteen to twenty percent again, because
I've met so many plays are just that close where

(06:24):
it's a yard's that's one step from a player to
hitting another player, and it's a you know, it's it's
that close when players, when kickers can get the ball
up high enough in the air, you're getting them a
yard closer. They are there just that much quicker, and
that can be all the difference. Not that suddenly you're
gonna see it's gonna be fifty seventy five percent, but
it will get the on side kick back to between

(06:46):
fifteen and twenty percent, where it becomes a play where okay,
hey the on side kick, Hey we have a one
in five chance at okay, that's better than one to
twelve chance. You're won in fourteen chance. So that's kind
of where you want it to be. It will get
there this year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I mean, I still like the other thing of hey,
you got a fourth and fifteen, you really want to
gamble that you're gonna get the fifteen, have at it,
But that that's off to the side as far as
this play goes, I still hate the one, two, three four.
I declare a thumb war element of it where I
have to declare it.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
What are you gonna do here?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Are you gonna have a regular kickoff? You're gonna go onside?
Walk up? I think we're gonna do the onside?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
No, I that's just dopey. There should still be what if.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
He let the kicker when he started running, he had
to say what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
He's biked up and it's over the loud speaker. I mean, like,
get they already licensed James Earl Jones' voice for eternity,
so maybe he sub license in here. So the kicker
now has the gravity of Darth Vader.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm talking deep.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Kick here is Wow. He really slowed up his approach.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
We used to do that like that.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Why do I have to declare right before I kick?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah? When when we played football on the street, when
we played two hand touch like it would always get
to fourth down and and the minute the third down
was over? Who if if the defense would say signals
on meant that whatever you decided to do on offense,
you you had to do it. Like if you said oka,
you got to make a sense, say we're going for
it or we're kicking. Right, If you said signals on

(08:22):
before they could say signals off, then they they they
had to do what they said. But if signals were off,
they could line up for the play and either go
for it or punt. And then that was that. That
was like a thing like signals. I said signals off
before you said signals no, I said signals on. It
went on, and then you said off on and off,
like I would like to do that at the end
of games. Let me take me back to when I
was seven eight years old playing in the streets.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
All of those things, right, and then we have what
a designated quarterback for both teams. If you official quarterback sucks, yeah,
official quarterback. He's official quarterback. It's like no, but we
drafted and we're paying him. It doesn't matter. Our guys
and we need a chance.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
We have Josh Allen playing for both teams because I
got justin bleeping fields. Come on, man, hey, hey, hey, you.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Don't go after my guy.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
All right.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
He used to be my guy. Now he's your guy. Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
We'll have more on the thunder Wind over the Timberwolves
Tonight one eighteen one oh three coming up in a
few minutes, because a real you know, curious glass half full,
glass half empty when it comes to the Julius Randall experience.
But the Caitlyn Clark Angel Reese debate the last few
days has really sent it around race and what may
or may not have been said Angel Reese not doing

(09:33):
her best and trying to tamp things down by retweeting
something that's someone put up, reposting something on TikTok that
was against Caitlin Clark. It's like, what are we doing?
Come on, what are you doing? But if you want
to take this because I love this, I love the
idea that let's take these these conversations need to come
to the court, right because I said it the other night,
the last in the w wants is to have the

(09:53):
Caitlin Clark Angel Reese conversation become about race. And I
know there's nothing you can do about it on social media,
but you gotta be a to take care of this
where this is not a thing where you focus on
the basketball. Well, the good news is that now hey,
you know what you want to focus on the basketball,
we can do it. The Fever Sky rivalry has already
reached Yankee, Red Sox, Dodgers, Padres, Alabama, Auburn type of

(10:19):
hype in just a year because of the sharedness that
Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese have had going back to college,
the championship into the W last year, all their games
on TV a really big deal. But I don't know
that we're gonna get that on court rivalry this year.
All that. Look, the W's got a lot wrapped up

(10:40):
in the Fever and the Sky, and man, I'll tell you,
the Sky have just looked absolutely terrible in their first
two games. First they get beat by the Fever ninety
three p. Fifty eight. Right, you lose by thirty five.
You're opening game to Indiana and Caitlyn Clark has a
triple double and things aren't even to where you thought

(11:00):
they would be. Now, you may change in the offseason.
You know, you replaced Tretha Weatherspoon, you made some moves,
you got better defensively, brought in Courtney van der Slute, Right, okay,
but you didn't really get better. Kennedy Carter's not playing.
People on Twitter want Kennedy want the Sky to drive
down and pick up Kennedy Carter and bring her back.
We don't care what the locker room was all about.
We need somebody that could score. Yeah, you kind of
do right. The Sky said after opening game against the

(11:24):
against the Fever, was this game's not going to define
our season. Well, tonight they play at home against the Liberty,
and look, Liberty are the champs, so you get they're
playing well, but they lose again by twenty five, and
they're not even competitive in this game. And what stands
for basically Angel Reese and the Sky is a snippet
from this game in which in the first half Angel

(11:47):
Reese nails five offensive rebounds on the same possession and
misses four times and gets her offensive rebound every time.
It's insane. It's all that she was. They said about
last Well, when you rebound all your own misses because
you're not good offensively, they're okay, yeah, okay, I get
it. It was kind of a fun thing to say because
she had some time where you know, she's not a

(12:08):
great offensive player, right, she's Rodman, right, that's what she is.
But watching the sequence tonight where she gets an offensive rebound,
goes up and misses because she's got two and three
players below kick the ball out when you come up
with that rebound, right, But no, she goes up and misses,
gets her own offensive rebound because it's she misses under
the basket, grabs it, goes up again and misses, gets

(12:28):
the rebound again, which is great, goes up and gets blocked,
grabs it again and goes up again. She's one on
three what are you doing? And goes up and gets
blocked a four second time, five offensive rebounds and four shots,
two blocked and two misses before she finally kicks it out.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
That is fifteen seconds from hell. Is like play by
play then, and that is.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
The fifteen seconds that defines Angel reaches A player finally
finds the sky, season finally gets it back out.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Nurse misses the three point shot, Natasha Cloud rebounds, and
ian Escu then with a pull up jumper.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean it's it's really it's it's it's stunning. And
this is right off the jump. This is like early
part of the first quarter of this game.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, they were three minutes into the game.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
What is what is happening here? Like again, this play
stands for the sky, it stands for Reese and and
are rebounding prowess and and offensive game that's just not there,
and the Sky losing by thirty three and twenty five
their first two games. It just might not be there
on the court for them this year. And you know,
the changes they made didn't really get better. You know,

(13:35):
I know they're trying to reset, and you know we
were resetting a culture and bringing play. Okay, I understand that,
but wow, man, I mean, how do you get excited
for the season when these are your first two games,
your biggest rival in the champs. You're saying, Hey, we
can show you the growth we had from last year,
and instead, Nope, we don't. We look like we're further
away from these teams. We've never been further away from

(13:55):
the top of the standings than we are right now.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, you look at Reese and Cardos, so being the
base you bring in Van lit right, all sorts of
goodwill from her time in college. Obviously long remembered for
that exchange and the Michael Jordan like shoulder shrug, but
because she couldn't have an answer as opposed to Jordan

(14:17):
hitting threes when she was trying to guard Caitlin Clark
a couple of years ago. But she comes off the
bench fifteen minutes, she goes over the field and it
just got out of sorts when you know, for the
final stat line, Angel Reese finishes with two points over
eight from the field with those twelve rebounds, half of
which came on that sequence of her own. It was

(14:39):
on like she was doing drills in that fifteen seconds.
All right, Cardio, put it up off the glass, but
all right, we're gonna put a body up there so
that you got you know, Toddie, come on, let's go.
And that's really what it looked like. No, it was
a disastrous effort. And you see the effort of what
the liberty put to bring four in an off night

(15:01):
for Caitlin Clark and the fever because the two are
inextricably linked forever that she goes from three point range.
But they still have enough depth because they did retool
that that roster, they did bring in a new coach,
They did play defense and team defense down the stretch

(15:21):
to get a hard fought win on a night where
Clark was anything but herself. Gott in foul trouble, had
an exchange where she started getting into it with the
opponents because bodying up playing twice in the same week,
but just a great study in contrast of.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
It didn't make the threeers?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Right, how many games was it for her with a
three to one hundred and forty in a row, going
back to January thirteenth of twenty twenty two, when she
went oh for six against the boiler Makers one hundred
and forty straight games with at least one made three
point shot including play you know all new tournament and
everything else.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
She was over five tonight.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Man perduke and hang a banner for that god boiler
last time Caitlyn didn't make a three.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Matt Pater used that on the recruiting trail.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
All not fair, not fair.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
I just grabbed the nearest boiler Maker and just threw
it out there. Well, I mean, you jinxed him. Remember
when they were number one, we had him on. You
washed him up real good. They went and lost their
next game.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
We jinked.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Did you do that too, Mike Woodson?

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Right, yeah, that's right. Wait, we did like three or
four coaches and we never had another coach on.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
No, college coaches are never coming spread around.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
They put our mugshots up like we were trying to
you know, hey, do not let these guys do not
catch any of their checks.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen, dumb Jason Smith,
Mike Carment. So yeah, maybe on the court that fever
sky rifle is gonna take a year off this year,
just the tried. Coming up next, one of the biggest
superstars in his sport is officially unavailable in a trade.
You just have to wait a little while and it'll happen.

(17:08):
We got that story coming up next right here, Jason
to bike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (17:24):
Should never have told this story last night. I should have.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
But it was a good story. It showed a lot
of heart.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I should have never told that story. Never.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
It was an online therapy session. Yeah yeah, still not great,
Bob A day later, not great, man, Yeah, not great,
not great.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Here's how bad it was today for me. If I
told you last night, I was gonna be I'm gonna
not look at I can't look at anything with this
game today. I can't get anything with Nicks Pacers Game one.
I can't do it. There could have been an article
on the Internet that said Nicks Pacers Game one recap
or Knicks Pacers Halliburton breaks down you know shot at

(18:07):
the end, Halliburton talks choke gesture, all of this stuff,
and it could have said, hey, Halliburton breaks down choke gesture.
Also the secret to eternal life. Just click on it.
And I would have said, I don't need eternal life.
I don't know if I have to read about that
shot and then at the bottom is eternal I don't
need it. I'll figure it out. Or you could read,

(18:28):
you know, here's a Halliburton, here's eight thousand words on
Halliburton's shot and reaction from around the league. And if
you get to the end and you finish reading a
a a thing will appear and you're gonna take a
picture of it with your phone and you're going to
get five million dollars wired to your bank. I would say,

(18:48):
I don't need it. Give a five million dollars to
somebody else, you know, could have the thing on that bar,
and you'll get no, I don't need it. I wouldn't
want it. Somebody else can have it, not me.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Now, the thing for eternal life would that you just
watched that movie Krazinski's got out right.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, I haven't yet.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
No, it's I haven't watched it yet either. I just
saw it. When it comes out tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's out this weekend.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I thought, yeah, yeah, it s either that or you
go see Stitch.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
What about Leelo? No, it's it's a it's a spin off.
It's just or it's like Roger Waters and David Gilmore.
They don't talk anymore. Lelo and Stitch are on opposite
sides of the stage.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
We sold all the rights as a distressed property. We
still got half a billion dollars, but you know, hey,
we move on. And then I think that Mission Impossible
movie finally comes out, right, Yes, finally. Over the press
tour for it.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
All, I'm so nervous about it because I bet the
stunts are amazing and they went to the wall. It's
the last one, but I got a funny feeling it's
gonna be just as convoluted and messy as the last one.
I really, because the last one wasn't good at all.
I'm like, wow, Dead Reckoning was just confusing and all
over the place, And I got a feeling that this
is what it's gonna be too, because you're gonna try

(19:59):
to bring so many people back for the last one,
it's gotta I gott it's gonna I bet. Visually it's
gonna be amazing, and the stunts are gonna be fantastic.
We talk about them. But the movie itself, you're gonna go, yeah, Okay,
I gotta see it another like three or four times.
Really get what happened? Like, that's my fear for this.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I get Hayley Atwell and Hannah Watting I'm good and
Nick Offerman shows up. I mean, come on, do you.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Think at some point that Tom Cruise is gonna bring
Hannah wating Ham a biscuit to eat and she's gonna
eat it and she's, Oh.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
That would be a nice little to play on things,
nice little twist.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Two big baseball stories to get to from today. The
first one, you know, I mean really, I say this
all the time. Stats sometimes, you know, can go in
one ear and out the other, so it's hard to
you know, you know, crush you with stats. A lot
of shows like to I'm like, why people are it's
so hard for everybody to pay attention to. But what's
going on right now with the Rockies. They lost today.

(20:51):
Thanks for not beating the Phillies once Colorado, thanks a lot.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
You really thought they were going to I thought at.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Home they could win one game, win one out of food.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Jay Bishd is not walking through that door. Ellis Burks
reference for the second time this week, is not walking
through that door. Larry Walker's in the Hall of Fame.
He ain't coming back.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Mike Hampton, well, I don't know that would help him.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Clint Barmes is not gonna get hurt carrying deer meat
up the stairs again.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Colorado is eight and forty two. It is the worst
fifty game start in baseball history, which goes back to
the modern era of nineteen oh one. You have to
go back to eighteen ninety five and the Louisville Colonels,
who started seven and forty three to find a worst start. Okay, so,

(21:41):
worst start in MLB history since eighteen ninety five. Right,
But here's the big one. Rockies are on pace to
lose one hundred and thirty six games this year, which
would pass the eighteen ninety nine Cleveland Spiders. Spider expanded
with a week left in the season because they were
so bad for the most losses by a baseball team

(22:04):
in history right now. Yeah, the White Sox got a
lot of attention last year because they set the modern
era record with one hundred and twenty one. This would
blow past that. And still when you say, well, there's
still teams that were bad or no, this blows past
I mean the eighteen ninety nine Cleveland Spiders. Like, when
you're a sports fan growing up, you hear, yeah, worst
team ever disband at the end of the season, one

(22:24):
hundred and thirty four losses in one hundred and fifty
four games. The Rockies can lose more games than they did.
That's what they are on pace to do. Not just
past the sixty two Mets, but you're passing the eighteen
ninety nine Cleveland Spiders. Like that's you stop and go.
We have to we have to go over some life
choices we have made here to get to this point.

(22:45):
We really do well.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
We talked about organizations, lack of planning, continuity, minor league systems.
We had all those changes a couple of years ago.
As far as the minor leagues are can concerned. You
look at just building a staff, retaining and roster management
and then being willing to spend money. You're also in

(23:08):
a division that is not going to do you any favors.
So you don't have the schedule that you did a
few years back in terms of balance or whatever. It's
still a daunting task and no picture except Mike Hampton
ever wanted to go there Wan. He got a lot
of money and he got to hit every fifth.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Day in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
So he was excited about that. And the schools were
good for his kids. Yeah, that's what he saw. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta remember this.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Go to private schools in New York. No private schools
in New York. No, no, No, didn't have the fifty
grand a year for a private school in New York
with one hundred and thirty million dollar contract. Guy, like
the schools in Denver.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
The school taxes were higher. What do you want? He
had more wide open spaces, starts singing the song all
that's say and storytime. Now, you know, every team does
all sorts of charitable things, you know, part of the community,
giveaways and days in the community. The White Sox always
do a garage sale, and many teams do these things

(24:02):
with proceeds, you know, to their foundation and so it's
old jerseys and batting helmets and autograph balls, left over bobbleheads,
all of those things. And they had it this weekend
and have yet to put much of it online, so
I don't get to participate. But there was a guy
that we know that was showing off his hull and

(24:23):
one of the things he bought it was the south
Side City Connect of Pedro Griffall. He's like, I had
to have the jersey of the losing his manager in
baseball history, because I've got a lot of stuff in
the collection, a lot of jerseys I wear of guys
that had a cup of coffee and you say, wow,
that guy was with the White Sox a minute, because

(24:43):
but I had to buy the Griffall and you know what,
only set me back fifty bucks. Fifty bucks for a
game warn Jersey City. Like he was just so jacked up.
He's showing off all this other stuff, but right buried
in the middle of it was his excitement of yeah,
because that guy was terrible. They went into a die
and tribe about the Rockies. But it made for a
comical bit to where we talked today. I mean, like

(25:06):
I did the spot in Baltimore earlier talking about expectations,
and one of their producers had brought up your comments
about the Knicks and the catastrophic loss of a night ago,
and I'm like, it's all about expectations now. Where the
Rockies expected to be good? No? Were the White Sox
expected to be good? No? But when you're like, all right,

(25:26):
we'll fight, we'll compete, and you're not even pretending to
do that. And a third of the way through the season,
it's like, can we fast track any more promotional days?
Anybody with some type of cultural heritage or our service
organization that we can honor to get some asses and
seats with a special giveaway or drink special. That's where

(25:49):
the Rockies are already at this point in the season.
And it's only Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Man, I'll tell you good luck. The Yankees come to
town this weekend. Good luck, guys.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
I mean this is even you know, the March for Arch.
I mean it is nothing, man.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
See when do you see what Aaron Judge does this
week in a course field. But look the other big
baseball story today. Things have gone really wrong for the
Pirates this year, right, Look just read the recap the
story on ESBN where Pittsburgh is packed a half decades
worth of public relations missteps into two months. Because yes

(26:25):
they have, they've already fired their manager. The one thing
not on the table, though, is trading Paul Skeens, right
GM Bench Sherrington said today, No, not part of the conversation.
All they're keeping Paul Skeens. Okay, I'll tell you this
for now, my best of Lauris Umbridge for now, Because yes,
you want to keep Skeens because he gives you an identity.

(26:46):
He's the best young player in the game, has a
lot of attention on him. At least you get relevancy,
you get people come in to the park at home
every fifth day when he pitches. Yeah, you want to
keep a guy like that. But he's gonna be gone
eventually because he's going to be on the Wan Soto
where the Pittsburgh Pirates are gonna understand, we're gonna get
to a point where we start feeling that we know

(27:08):
we're not gonna have him, and we got to maximize
his value. Now to trade him right now is now
he's got a couple more years left under control. Arbitration
is coming in a year. But just like with Jan Soda. Okay,
the Nationals said, when are we gonna get the most out?
They won the World Series, they got closer. Hey, they're
two three years away from Soda. We're not gonna re
sign and we don't have the money. We didn't give
them money to Bryce Harper. We're not gonna have the

(27:30):
money for Wan Soda, which is gonna be way more money.
So let's trade him. And they found that sweet spot
to move on. They got a lot of young players
for him. The same thing's gonna happen with the Pirates.
They're gonna get to a point where it's like, okay, now,
the longer we keep him, the less we'll get for him,
because he's closer to not being in our control. So
they'll find a time, maybe the next eighteen months where

(27:51):
they understand, Okay, we've gotten everything we can out of
Paul Schemes. We know when he becomes a free agent,
someone else is gonna sign him. We're not gonna give
him five hundred million dollars. He's gonna get the biggest
contract that any free agent pitcher has ever seen. So yeah,
we're gonna trade him. Eventually. We're not paying him. We
don't have the money to pay him. Right, we're still
paying out Bobby Benia for nineteen ninety two. So let

(28:14):
let's only we understand that, so there will be that
sweet spot for them where they go, Okay, we've gotten
as much as we can out of him, and now
the longer we hold on to him, the less we'll
get into trade. And that's when that will happen. It's
not gonna be at the trade deadline this year, so
the trade deadline next year, but looking at maybe eighteen
months from now, that's gonna happen. He's going to get

(28:35):
dealt like the for Pittsburgh to say this, now, I
understand what you're saying, but he's gonna get traded. It's
just a matter of time.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, arbitration eligible after next year. For now, you need
an identity. Reynolds and and Cruz and Cabrian Hayes. Those
guys are not putting asses in seats. And I know
he's a pitcher, so you don't get a ton of run.
But there's the off chance that some yokels will buy
tickets hoping that Livy Dunn shows up and waves at

(29:02):
them or whatever else you're hoping, or promotional days you've
got lined up, or meet and greets or personal service contract,
all of those things that add up to we can't
trade him yet because we got people signed up. Right.
We talked about it a lot with the Angels and
revenue loss or even the Mavericks before Tada they get
Cooper Flag of all the money they lost and went

(29:24):
out the window. When Luka Doncicz got traded, right, there
were other moving parts there in terms of the finances
for the Pirates. Gotta believe there's a lot of the
same things in terms of local television, radio coverage, local advertisers,
in stadium advertiser, all of that stuff. That scheme's his
name means a lot to box office for them, even

(29:46):
though they know there's no chance in hell they're gonna
be able to pay him what he's worth when it
comes time to hit the open markets. So for now,
it's enjoy him every fifth days, buy all your memorabilia,
get out to the ballyard and just think about what
might have been, and then you can start assembling that
murderer's row, including Benilla and Bonds and all those guys,

(30:08):
Mike Levallier, all those guys that once passed through its
members dray Beck. Oh sure, well that's right.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Get all those Pirates there. Remember when the Pirates were
a destination in the lady eighties. I gotta go play
in Pittsburgh. Yet nobody says that anymore. Yeah, nobody. Nice
ballpark though, great ballpark. Great ballpark, great ballpark. It is
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Speaker 5 (30:32):
Game two of the Thank You of the Western Conference
Finals between the Thunder and the Timberwolves ended in a
win for Okay see shake Gildess. Alexander was presented with
the MVP trophy ahead of the game and then went
on to show why he's the MVP. Ended with thirty
eight points, eight assists, final score one eighteen to one
oh three. Jalen Williams had a double double for OKC

(30:53):
twenty six points, ten rebounds. Chett Holmgren had his own
twenty two points. When it came to Minnesota, Anthony Edwards
dropped they two points and nine rebounds. Julius Randalls struggled
from the field, had six points, didn't play in the
fourth quarter. Edwards, though, is now the timberwolves new all
time leading score in the playoffs. Also, very early in
the game, Scott Boster was kind of elbowed in an

(31:15):
early jump ball by Lou Dort started, you know, bleeding everywhere.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is that poetic justice?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Because Chris Paul he got kicked in the stomach by
Julius Randall and then he got hit in the face
on the same ple.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Absolutely so poetic justice because Chris Paul was in attendance.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh yeah, he didn't do it though, Yeah, but hey, hey,
why do I have champagne at my locker? Oh? It's
from Chris Paul exactly exactly.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
The Nuggets and ar own coach David Adaman have agreed
on a deal to make Adamman the franchise's next head coach.
The NHL also had a playoff game, the East Final.
The Panthers scored one minute and seventeen seconds into the game,
never looked back. They shout out the Hurricanes five zero.
Florida now leads a series to zero. Let's check in
on baseball, where the Angels have one seven in a row.

(32:00):
After defeating the Eighties ten to five, Taylor Ward a
grand slam in the win, the Guardian shut out the
Tigers seven zero, the Brewers outscored the Pirates eight to five,
and the Astros top the Mariners nine to two. Hosale
Thuba had two homers in the win. The Nationals walked
it off eight to seven against the Braves and ten innings,
but Atlanta's Ronald Acuna Junior will be activated from the

(32:20):
injury list on Friday after following that ACL injury that
he sustained last season. And in the WNBA, the Fever
did defeat the Dream eighty one to seventy six. Caitlin
Clark eleven points, four rebounds, and six assists, but he
was he was. She was zero of five from the
three She had made a three in forty two consecutive games,

(32:40):
the longest streak to begin a w NBA career, and
didn't make one today. And the Liberty did cruise pass
the sky no problem, ninety nine to seventy four. It's
been fun, guys, back to you.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Thanks so much. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, we have some
last big thoughts on the Thunder and they're seemingly invincible.
Two nothing lead over the Minnesota Timberwolves. I will ask
maybe the biggest question left in the NBA playoffs, that's

(33:14):
next right here, Jason I Mike Fox Sports Radio The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Well dressed, hobo.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Uh. Look, while we're ready for some of us are ready,
I'm not ready for Game two between the Knicks and
the Pacers tomorrow night. The Thunder took a commanding two
nothing lead in the Western Conference Finals over the Tea
Wolves tonight one eighteen, one oh three, and it felt
like it was a quiet victory. Shake Gilders. Alexander had

(33:42):
kind of a quiet thirty eight points even though he
was dominant. This is and I don't mean quiet, oh,
I mean quiet where Hey, they were able to play
this good and there's still a lot of room between
their heads and the ceiling, right, Like, this is how
good they are. They have put together a perfect team.
You have the NBAVP, You have two young superstar players

(34:05):
that are on rookie contracts. Right, you have an All
NBA defensive player. You have two role players that are
the envy of everyone in the league. Right, I mean
the Lakers fans still want alex Caruso back. You know,
by the way, you have as many as fifteen first
round picks in the next seven drafts. Right, that's what
you have done. You have put together a team that
it should be illegal to put it together in a

(34:26):
video game in dynasty mode. But this is what you
have done. I don't know that there's a team out
there that can give the Thunder a series. In fact,
if I said to you, Mike, at this point, if
I put the over under of Oklahoma City Thunder losses
the rest of this playoffs right over under for losses
at two and a half, what are you taking because

(34:49):
I know I'm taking the Unders. I don't know, man, Yeah,
I think the Unders pretty much there. Looking at series
odds to finish this thing off, Scott Shapiro, our boss,
your ears, ear muffs, ear muffs, the Thunder are minus
two thousand. That implies a ninety five percent likelihood that
they move on history Western Conference, what is it? Thirty

(35:11):
three of thirty four, thirty four, thirty five historically up
two oh advance to the finals. So you know it's
the you're saying there's a chance.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
But on the other side, in terms of having to
keep your feet moving like the Knicks are dead in
the water because these guys will just run them out
at the gym right with that seven man rotation. No chance. Now,
the Pacers could be interesting to a degree, but again,
I think it's just too much. I would agree with

(35:43):
you the under two and a half.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'd love
to see the teams, but I just don't know the
Knicks or the Pacers can give them a series. I
just don't think they can. I mean, this'd be a
great this is fun and entertaining, and boy is it awesome.
But I'll tell you, man, they've put together it's a
perfect right. You just have to sit back and just
go I've done it. I just gotta watch him play.
I just gotta watch them play the fun part. That's
all I have to do, because that's because all they're

(36:05):
gonna do is win.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
It is an amazing juggernaut right now. The way they're playing.
The you know term we I think we coined it
a few years ago, the Warriors and everything. Listen to
the whole show of the podcast. We've discussed this a
little bit as the game was going on. That's spurt ability, right, Hey,
it's a five point game. We're climbing back. Nope, it's
twelve again. Nope, now it's nineteen. You're done. There's another three. Oh,

(36:29):
and now you made another steal going back the other way.
And that's exactly what happened tonight.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Now, part of the drama of tonight from the Tea
Wolves side of it is at one game, after he
had a first half for the Ages where Julius Randall
had five threes, kept the Tea Wolves in it, laughing
up and down the court. This is kind of what
dotted his experience with the Knicks. The next game, he
could show up and not give you a great effort

(36:55):
and sit on the bench. You go, what the hell
happened from game to game? This is the Julius Randall experience.
He did not play in the fourth quarter tonight a
horrendous game. I mean, ninety percent of the bets that
went on him tonight went for over nineteen and a
half points. So, hey, congratulations. But after the game, Chris
Finch was asked, head coach of the t Wells, why
didn't Julius Randall play in the fourth quarter? And here

(37:17):
was the official answer.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Randall's limited impact carried over from the second half of
Game one to basically the whole night tonight.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
What did you see from him?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
And why'd you go with Nas?

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah, I mean just I just thought, you know, Nas
has had a good game going, and just you know,
I just wanted to try to see if I can
spread the floor and get some you know, quick decision
making out there and just trying to change the complexion
of the game.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, just was a thing.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
No, this is the Julius Randall experience that I am
well aware of that I had so many times where
where is he tonight? What is going on? Is he unhappy?
How was he not playing? How was he go from
the best player on the floor and then after a
halftime you can't even put him back out there? Like
how does that happen? Welcome to Julius with the Julius
Randall experience.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Welcome see because Nas reed gets in the mix, I
get to use the line from Omayer to the Afghan Whigs.
I don't sleep because sleep is the cousin of death.
At least that's what Nas said, owing to New York
State of Mind by Nas. So there you go, and
that's kind of what Julius randalled in tonight. It was
the cousin of death because he was a non factor.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Now I am gonna say this, maybe Julius Randall is
still really suffering from the after effects of the Knicks loss.
Last night.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
He and Dante were both struggling.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Dante was what minus thirty five for the game tonight.
I mean, yeah, that was I mean, maybe they're both tough. Hey,
they're both still nix at heart, and boy, that really
was tough for us. It was tough to get out
here and play a day after that.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Maybe they'll rally tomorrow. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'm a rallying. That's gonna be a thing. Okay, hold
on to your hats. We got aim too with the
Knicks and the Pacers. Tomorrow, my buddy Ben Malas next
Fox

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Mm hmm
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