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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon give you best case/ worst case for the Knicks after fighting off elimination to force a Game 6. The guys discuss possible NCAA Tournament expansion. Plus, the Celebrity Row Quiz Game and the play of the day!  

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Speaker 3 (00:53):
Look at you spring in to your step. Hell yeah,
feeling pretty good? Head.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
So the Knicks and the Pacers are officially now headed
to the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
It looked like we were headed to the fourth quarter
a couple of minutes ago. However, traveling violation called on
the Pacers at the end of the third quarter gave
the Knicks a last possession with half a second left.
Karl Anthony Towns missus a jumper. So now we're officially
at the end of the third quarter. Chalomy looks like
Rob mcallaney. He's dressed like a combination of Eddie Murphy

(01:28):
and Arsenio Hall from Coming to America. He's gone full
in and the Knicks are twelve minutes away from extending
this series to game six, ninety to seventy three.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
They lead the Pacers at the end of three quarters.
It has been a big night for the two players
that need to have biggest nights the most. Jalen Brunson's
got thirty, Karl Anthony Towns has nineteen and eleven. And
I'll just say this right out of the gate, right, Okay,
Still obviously with the next out, Jason, you're not that
more excited.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I've seen them blow leads like.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Eight days ago, spreads minus sixteen this city quarter. You know,
I talked about this last night and I said, I
expect the Knicks to come out with this kind of
an effort because this is who they are, right. They're
not a team that's going to roll over and die.
They're not a team that's going to show up like
Minnesota going, okay, we're just ready for the off season
to start. Cu Ya, I'm okay, I'm Anthony Edwards. I'm
not gonna worry about reading defenses now. It's too late

(02:18):
in the year. So I knew this was gonna be
the effort they were going to come in with, especially
Brunson knows Karl Anthony Towns, who I'm sure the last
twenty four hours had to hear the rumors of w wait,
they might want to trade me at the end of
the season. I don't fit that. Well, Okay, I'm gonna go.
And he's had a big game. But overall watching this,
the Knicks defensively are much more intense than they have

(02:38):
been at any point in the series against the Paper.
So we saw the physical file that McBride took towards
the end of the third quarter, and it's one of
those where you're right on the edge. Right, it's like
you watched playing you know, your daughter playing soccer softball, right,
a hard slide or a tackle, a you know, defensive
player getting into it. My daughter and defender in soccer.

(03:00):
It's like, you know that be aggressive, don't give up
your ground, and then then you have to figure out
where the line is of an official calling it with McBride. No,
he wasn't gonna let Siakam have that easy deuce, right
and but it's that right on that border because he
makes no play for the ball at all. So Rick
Carlisle is screaming bloody murder and it's like, no, no,
this is they're gonna review.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's gonna get adjudicated properly.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
But it's one of those for the Knicks, you were
waiting for them to match that intensity, waiting for them
to counter with some of the blows for Karl Anthony
Towns between us talking about you know, you know you're
trying to talk Giannis into New York into existence.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, I thoks.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
They're all listening to the show. I mean, there's no
question about it. Appreciated on the iHeartRadio app and five
hundred affiliates nationwide we love you. The sheer number of
jerseys Karl Anthony Town's has been photoshopped into Oh yeah,
I mean, it's got to be all every other team
in the end, But at this what did I send you?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I did what?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
An hour and a half before tip off, there were
reports that he was a game time decision because of
that knee injury sustained when he went down and was
clutching his knee the other day, and instead he comes
out like a house of fire and he's bouncing around
and he's got a good bounce Offensively, Bronson's had a
couple of minutes of action where he's looked like that guy. Right,
he's gonna have that big special night. So the two

(04:18):
of them leading the charge, but that intensity, because it's
a long offseason. If you don't show heart going out
and we'll get to Josh Hart and his contributions.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Are lacked there of admitting or lack of that.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, but it's the idea of like in Minnesota, they'll transition, right,
twins are pretty good and they'll get into JJ McCarthy
and everything going on with the Vikings in short order.
In New York, you can have the Mets and Yankees rolling,
that's fine. You can turn the page somewhat to the
Giants and the Jets. But if you go out without

(04:52):
heart and showing intestinal fortitude and then knock down, drag
out game against these Pacers and you go meet Clee
into the good night, that's not good for anybody. And
I think they're smart enough to have recognized that. Yeah, no,
and look, and the main thing I've seen again it's
hard to say that, hey, you need more from Jalen Brunson,
because you know, I mean, really you need more. But defensively, look,

(05:15):
he and Karl Anthony Towns are the worst two defenders
in the Knicks out right. We've talked about this the
last few nights and how it really hurts them when
both of them are on the floor, because you know,
how good can you be defensively. That's why at the
end of the year, again, no team has found I
found more stuff is wrong with them in a conference
final than the Knicks right now. But that's why, Hey,
going on next year, can you survive with both of them?

(05:36):
Because you know, Brunson, as great as he is, he's
not going anywhere, and he's on the floor. Karl Anthony
Towns has been what looked to be a great fit
and then it was sort of an odd fit, and
now it really hasn't been what they expected it to
be and how they thought by this point, Hey, Carl Anthony,
that's gonna be a one two punch with Jalen Brunson.
But defensively, the Knicks really struggle, and they struggle with Indiana,

(05:56):
and there's a combination of Tibbs not making any adjustments.
But all it is tonight, Honestly, they're much more active.
They're much more aggressive. Brunson is more aggressive defensively. You
see him moving around at the top, you know, coming
off screens and staying with wherever he's supposed to be,
Like this is the big thing. It's almost like, boy,
I wish the Knicks would have realized this before they

(06:18):
were down three to one. But I celebrate that they
came late to the party instead of not showing up
at all. But that's really it. Like the Knicks offense
has been the same. They've been hitting big shots all
of this. It's a twenty point lead right now with
eleven minutes to go, and the Pacers are gonna put
it away at some point. Halliburton's out of the game
right now, so this is gonna be if the Knicks
can play hard for the next five or six minutes

(06:38):
and have this fifteen sixteen, eighteen point lead. I feel
pretty good about the last few minutes of this game.
But honestly, that's really all it is. It's not like
all of a sudden the Knicks like, oh they found
something and they flip the switch. It's just, hey, defensively, guys,
you can't have an effort like you had in the
last game. You can't just have an effort where every
single but like, what did I say if they took

(06:59):
five difficulties shots in the last game the Pacers, that
might have been more than I thought. Every other every basket,
every time the Pacers had the ball when they would miss,
it was because they would miss shots. It was not
because the Knicks altered them or because the Knicks defensively
put them in a bad spot. It was just, Hey,
an open player missed or they missed a layup.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
That's it. And you can't play games that way.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
And that's kind of what happened to the Knicks against
the Pacers now tonight. It's they're making the Pacers work
a little bit more. And look what's happening now. It's
you know, it's it's it's a it's a big lead
for them here early in the fourth. Yeah, and I
come back to we we threw the flowers at the
feet of Halliburton last game. Out right, Hey, I did
it for daddy. Daddy, look at me all of that

(07:39):
fun stuff. What a half ass effort in a closeout potential?
Well but it is, no, No, I'm going to try
to try to close this out and go down swing it.
They still have time to close it out. How many
times have they been down this and they came back? Yeah,
but you know, I mean they've been down. They know, Hey,
we're down sixteen. We got the right where we want him.

(08:00):
We're all good, we got him right here. But look,
but you know, i'd agree with you. I'd agree with you,
except as we've seen now in the last few years
in the NBA, because there's such a you know it.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
It was great talking with Rick Buker about this the
other day, is that you know, teams just come in
now into games that they don't absolutely have to have
and they think we're on the road, we're not going
to get the calls. Stuff is not going to go
our way. And if that happens early, they go, see,
we knew it, and suddenly your effort is not what
it was supposed to be in the game energy. I understand,

(08:31):
it's a point, and that's become a thing now that
that's it's not like it's oh hey, here's a It's
not like last night with the Timberwolves.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Was the was an outlier? Was this happens all the time?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Now? Mean times we see big blots like this in
the NBA playoffs. Twenty thirty points is now the norm
for a lot of games when a team is quit
or they don't need a game where they feel the
series is always they hit that time now edwards and
make him realize that you know, what he does on
the cord for forty eight minutes really does matter, and
that you're not proud promised to get back there again

(09:01):
because this postgame comments were once again very troubled. Oh
he gets into his off season. It's like, you know,
I'm young, We'll get back. No, what did I say
last night? He needs a conversation with a Hall of
famer to say, dude, you need to do more. You
need if you can't read defenses and you need to
ask Dante DiVincenzo for help, guess what you need to do.

(09:23):
You got to get in the film room. You have
to figure out that way to flip the smart guy
good school. I mean, no question about it, but I
mean this is where I don't care what sport you
bring it from Here's Dan Marino, here's Mike Trout. You know,
you can be really good and never win anything.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, Like it's hard, Like, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
The finishing the season is a very difficult proposition. Don't
assume you're gonna have a lot of these runs. But
but yeah, looking at the effort tonight, you'll loose balls
and and just the fast break points and everything that
had been Pacers Pacers, Pacers showing some heart in front

(10:01):
of the home crowd.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
So making a ninety six eighty one lead for the
Knicks right now with nine minutes left to go, Brunson's
getting some rest on the bench, Haliburton getting rest. And
it was a twenty point lead a couple moments ago,
but the Pacers hit a couple of shots to make
it fifteen points. I mean, look, and I'll be honest
with you, right, what did I say last night? The
two really and one is one is very selfish?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
The two really?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Look, the Knicks aren't gonna go down without giving a
big effort right to have this clearly the series not
going their way. They're gonna show up big at home
and mainly the other part I look at it is
that Yeah, so if they win this game and they
lose Saturday, I don't have to worry about it. We
don't have to talk about it anymore. Like it's done
by the time we get back on the air Monday night.
Like this series is where Helen gone.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Man, we're previewing the Pacers and the and the thunder,
so very selfishly, I'm like, yeah, do it for me.
Do it for me so I don't have to talk
about it, so I don't have to spend three hours
tonight with the Knicks Wake. We had the knixt funeral
the other night. Now the Knicks Wake would have to
be tonight at least.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Do that for me.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean, we keep expanding our reach, you know,
like the Blob city after city and just taking over
across the land and more and more years across New
York State. Tonight you were starting to get back into
a little uh, you know, go New York, go guy
in the first half, but it was it was the
most emotion you've shown since Game one.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well yeah, dude, game one. It came out, I mean
came on.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
You were so jacked up, and then and then it
was like someone came I don't know, and started throwing
bottles at your car as just at.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
The Harmon teams with a nine point lead and fifty
seconds they go in a game. Oh wait wait, fourteen
hundred and forteens and no losses.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Until game one in the history you get to.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Raise a banner your record center is Yeah, you know
what I thought about?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
How bad that? That's? That sounds? How much worse?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Is ready for this? I think about the other day,
going okay, so this is when they were keeping track
in the in the in the mid nineteen nineties, right, okay,
sure fifty you know, nine pointly fifty one seconds left
to go, fourteen hundred and fourteen wins and no loss.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's a lot of data. Pat, here's how bad that is.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
If you can go back further, right, because what was
going on in the mid nineties, Yes, we had the
three point shot, but not nearly to this extent, not
nearly to where teams can make three and four threes
in the final fifty seconds of a game and win. Okay,
all right, so maybe not there? What about going back
no three point shot? Remember, no three point shots? So
when you're down.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Nine with fifty seconds left to go, that's a five
possession game, right, So I guarantee you that that was
in the I would not guarantee you, but I would
say if you, if I had to go to Vegas
and bet all my money, I would say, if you
could find a way to go back all the way
to the beginning of the NBA, when the peach Baskets
were up in the final scores of like four to two,

(12:49):
if you could go all the way back to that,
you would find zero instances of a team up nine
points with fifty one seconds left to go and wind
up losing that game.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Zero out of.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
The history of the NBA, when James Naismith was in Canada, going, hey,
if I bring this game to the United States, they
might like it.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Maybe we'll get a team here in you know, eighty
or ninety years.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, and don't forget the first decade of the NBA,
there was no shot clock. I'm telling you, man so well,
you would still foul to put guys in the free
throw line, but I mean you'd have to catch them.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, cat potato baby.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
If I'll tell you, look, if the ball's gone, they're
not calling the file. It's too big, man, the court
is too big. Already passed it done? And back then
they were smaller guys. Uh so, I mean you had
more room on the on the court.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I got so.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Game one is a lot to come back. I don't
know the 'll ever be back from Gever. Macho grande.
I'll never be over macho grande. I don't know that
I'll ever get over Game one. Game one was that
bad man? It was that.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Did you write any off of that?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Did you at least get a new chapter to a
post apocalyptic book?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh no, the entire night was post apocalyptic.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's you.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
No.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I saw the thousand yards stay in New York. I
saw your soul leave your body and hover for a second,
and then it waved you off like sipp witch. If
the apocalypse happened during Game one, Okay, the news in
New York would open up eleven going, the apocalypse is here.
Many of us are dead. Half of the people here

(14:10):
are dead. But boy also maybe dead the New York Knicks.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Let's go live to Madison Square Garden and find out
the latest on that incredible.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh wait, wait, oh, our.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Reporter has been eaten by a zombie and our camera
has been eaten by a zombie. Okay, well, luckily we
have Gil Gerard here. Who's going to give us about
what happened in sports?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Okay? Are they? They're starting to.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Break through into the newsroom. The the zombies here. Okay,
so we have about thirty more seconds left to live. Hey, hey, Jerry,
can you tell us what happened in this game tonight
before the zombies come in?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
What an incredible, awful loss by the New York Nicks.
Here come the z I may as well let the
zombies eat me. It doesn't even Ah, Dawn, that still
doesn't hurt as much as the Nicks loss. And now
gonna be a zombie Paula out Ah, that hurts even more.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
That hurts more than the joke side that Haliburton. Does
Gil Gerard get infected by a zombie? So tweeted?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Has did meet Ebedd? I meant to say, Jerry Girard,
Jerry Gerard, former.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Sports cast say now I'm thinking about Buck Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
And that gets us to, uh, what was the woman
that was on Silver Spoons that Aaron Gray? Aaron Gray
see it all ties together?

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
She was one of my first TV crushes. I was like,
what Aaron Gray is you like? During that Silver out?
I wanna wat, I wanna I want to watch Buck
Rogers every Sunday night after I take my shower and
before I go to bed early for school? Can I
watch Buck Roger? You realize that for about eight years
Gil Gerard was married to Connie Selica.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I did not know that about that. Wow, thinks you learned?
And TJ.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Maybe they lived in a hotel at that point.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
TJ.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Now we get into the Brolins and Panos.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
So we get back to post apocalyptic world.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
See it all ties together? Under eight minutes left to go.
The Knicks lead the Pacers by twelve. Halliburton's back in
the game, Brunson's back in the game. So I direct
you to the Mike Harmon two. Oh they're not showing
up for the Yeah, I told you, plenty of time left,
plenty of time left to just rip everything out of it.
Already put a cape on while he said.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So, we'll keep you updated on this game.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But coming up next, not one, but two big stories
out of college basketball and college football. If you like
more teams in the playoffs, you're gonna love what's coming
up next. That's straight ahead, Jason and Mike. You are
listening to Fox.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (16:36):
Sometimes you just shake my head at the shots Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
HiT's just what are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Big hoop by Brunson right there, pushes the Knicks lead
back out to eighteen Nix lead the Pacers one oh
four eighty six, just over four minutes left to go,
And one of those shots that if you missed it,
you'd say, why is he taking that shot?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
No, I mean that's just a way I know.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I've come to the come to the conclusion. Whatever Brunson does,
I will live and die with that. That's absolutely fine.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
If Brunson whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
So defensively no, but offensively, if he wants to have
one foot falling out of bounds and throw it up
with a hook shot righty, if he wants to put
up a shot like, what what's the shot that got
uh Woody Harrelson got uh Rosie Perez on Jeopardy with
and White Men Can't Jump when he had to make
the hook shot from the other free throw, Like, if

(17:25):
that's what Brunson los Okay, I'm okay with that. If
that's what Brunston needs to put up, that's what brunt
needs to put up, a big jumper. And again it's
it's a sixteen point lead now for the Knicks, three
and a half minutes left to go. I we'll have
more on this game coming up in a few minutes up.
Maybe the Pacers have the Knicks where they want him,
but you know, we'll see. Uh So, if you like

(17:46):
more teams in playoffs, and who doesn't, right this is
these are not one, but two great stories come in
your way, college basketball and college football. It's just a
matter of time and by that I mean maybe just
a couple of months until we get an expanded college
basketball tournament and an expanded college football playoff. College basketball first,

(18:07):
the tournament could expand to seventy two or seventy six teams,
with a decision hoped for in the next few months.
This is by NCAA President Charlie Baker.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Charlie.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Right now people are saying, oh, so they do have
a president, Yes, a member, Charlie. There is somebody, Member Baker,
there is somebody in charge of college basketball. I didn't
think there was none other it's not college football. He
fit the suit. Right, So seventy two or seventy sixteens
with a decision, hope for in the next few months.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Right Number one, we've talked about this for a while.
Of course this is going to happen, right, and I
get sit Aaron. You can talk about the money and
more teams getting in, and the and the overall appeal
of putting more teams in.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
But I will say I will say two things outside
of that. Where it's money, it's money. Everybody wants to
fault to the money, the money, the money. Sometimes he's
the fault to the money. But sometimes there's two things.
Number One, you will get a better first four because
right now it feels like the first four is sort
of a piecemeal thing. Like, hey, we wanted to expand
the tournament a little bit, so we put some more

(19:09):
teams in. We have a couple of games on Tuesday
and Wednesday, and that gets into the first round. But
it kind of feels like it's halfway done, right, Like
like you started something on your house and like, okay,
well we ran out of money for now, so I
got a bathroom. It's half built. When when we get
money again of everything else. Okay, we're gonna finish.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Does that have holes? Yes, it has holes?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Can we use it?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Can we use it?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, it's a big hole in the ground. That's called
the latrine. No, it's a bathroom. It's it gets it done,
put it, put it on Zilo. It's a it's a
three and two and a half. Now, so it's a
better first four because it is Okay, instead of this
piece meal Tuesday Wednesday, it is now, hey, four games
on Tuesday, four games on Wednesday, right, and that and
that's great. All of a sudden, you can own the

(19:50):
entire week. If you are the NCAA tournament, you own
selection Sunday. You're off on Monday. Obviously. Be believe me,
if they could find a way to get games in
a Monday, they would. But you're talking about now a
mini NCAA tournament night in prime time on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Because what do we get on Thursday and Friday? Right,
it's four games at night? Right, you get the games
all day obviously, but then at night it's four games. Well,

(20:12):
now we're getting four games in a primetime window, and
it feels like a full night of the NCAA tournament
and it's now you own the entire week in college bass,
which comes back to everybody's getting more money, right, right,
I mean, look, we can push it off to logic
and what's the difference. Let them all in it, come

(20:33):
to this house, be one of the you know, glorious
people and start singing who lyrics as we go.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
But the.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
You're looking at a situation whereby who's complaining when teams
get get in? And it's the all right, did you
leave anybody out that has a viable chance? Well no,
And generally the argument is no, except for in that
local market where there'll be a little bit of outrage
and a fight. But if it means that you get

(21:05):
to own another couple of days, it makes a couple
of teams more viable in terms of transfer portals and
places where players go. In an era where we're seeing
a dilution of talent because there are opportunities, nil, scholarship productions,
all of that stuff across all sports to where guys
are looking and women are looking for their opportunities. It's

(21:29):
only good for the business as a whole. Right, There's
so much growth to be had there opportunities for coaches,
for the players to be seen, and obviously for the
cash registered to ring a few more times. True TV
or whoever else in the streaming world decides they want
a piece of that pie.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now, the other part of it is this, and this
is why everybody's going to agree to it. What if
we've seen be the big trend the last decade plus
in college basketball the mid majors, right, Butler makes the
back to back match championship and side, well, we gotta
let them mid majors in. Well, too many mid majors
are getting in too many way, too many mid majors
are getting in.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
As I told you, I don't think hardly any mid
majors deserve to get in because they don't play the year.
They don't play the same schedule that the power conferences do,
so I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Think they should get in. But okay, you're in. It's fun.
It's fun to see the mid major upsets.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I love them.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
But adding more teams means more Power conference teams will
get in. And and so everybody's gonna be on board
with that because it's not gonna be all We're gonna
we can let monmuthin again.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
You know, we can let Saint Mary's in it?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
No, we can we let No, you're not letting in
a third team from the from the West Coast Conference.
It's gonna be We're gonna have two more teams in
the Big Ten, one more team from the ACC, one
more team from the SEC.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's what this means. There's gonna be more Power Conference
teams are gonna get in, which all of college baskets better.
When these teams get in, they're more fun, they're more
fun seeing these teams on Tuesday and Wednesday. Hey, it's great.
That okay, great, but we got al Corn State is
playing against UAB. That's awesome, right, it's great, Oh, Arizona State, Hey,
you got give me power five teams, right, give me
power five teams that are getting in. I think people

(23:04):
would like to see if Syracuse is playing against Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
In a in a in an early first round game
in the NCAA tourna. Those are games people are gonna watch.
So I mean, I don't I don't get you know,
I don't get the moving against it. But now seeing
that this is what it's gonna be, everybody's gonna go
for it. And by this time next year we're going
to say, hey, we're looking forward to the bigger tournament. Well,
I mean this is perfect that as we're talking about expanding,
so pretty much everybody gets in you immediately go to

(23:29):
a Syracuse reference. So I mean that's good.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
If you had to say to me, okay, who are
some of the power teams conference teams that used to
be big deals that have a tough time making the tournament.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Now Syracuse at the top of that list. To the
larger point, let me say USC, come on, man, and
I don't I don't care what conference they're from, because
we know that in reality, there is a very small
group of teams that are really going to compete for
a title. Now, if the luck of the draw, an injury,
the right seating, and the road opens up, then yeah,

(24:05):
we get some craziness and you have massive runs where
a team is led by veteran guard play and all
those cliches that we do to where you get Butler
a couple of times. It's great, it's good for and
it's good for outside the game, right, and this is
where you get the periphery eyeballs people that are watching
college buckets. As soon as there's a bracket to be

(24:26):
filled out, or a bunch of games that they can
bet and go to Vegas or whatever, or their mobile
apps they're in. It doesn't matter. It's the fringe folks
that perhaps you bring in and look all for glory
of Alma Mater. It's a lot easier to get that first. Hey,
we hadn't heard from you this year. We'd like some
money if it starts with, hey, we made the NCAA tournament,

(24:49):
because again the fringe person saying good for us, good notoriety.
How many teams made to turn it, it doesn't matter.
You're not putting that in now. So that's great news.
So you know that's gonna happen. The other thing is,
you know we're getting expanded college football player four year
from now as this five plus eleven model, which is
what it's been called the last couple of days where
the five conference champions and eleven at large bids is

(25:13):
starting to gain a lot of momentum and different conference
leaders like it and they're eyeing the next steps as
to how we make this happen right now. This would
be for twenty twenty six and beyond, and yeah, we've
talked about that again.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
The money is there and all the money.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yes we can have more games, and yes the SEC
and the Big ten will be happy because likely they
will get without getting a guarantee of getting more teams in.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I am sure they.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Will get more teams in with a laurel and a hearty.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
So there's gonna be a bit of hand ringing on it.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
And you know the SEC and the Big Ten are
going to push for automatic bids for them, and you
know there's some different nuances of it. But outside of
the money, again, I'll tell you another reason why this
is done. Why did college football expand the playoff to
begin with? Because they saw, after not long amount of time,
boy college football really became regionalized in the last ten

(26:07):
to twelve years and it wasn't the big national sport
that it used to be. Because everybody's taste change and
how we consume sports changes. And when you have a
whole college football season where basically, oh so two teams
are gonna get a chance to play for the nut
of the one hundred and twenty six teams. Two teams, well,
we're used to that for a long time, but times change.

(26:29):
Fans don't want that anymore. Why am I gonna Why
am I into it to watch everything going on across
the country. Why do I care about USC and Ohio
State when I know whoever loses his game is out right?
I mean, it's it's getting to a point where you
used to watch all those games because it's what you did, right.
We used to go to the movies all the time
because it's what we did. Now we don't.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Now we stream, We go to movies not as often
as we did because life changes, time changes, how we
consume sports changes, and we consume college football differently now.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So yes, it's the money, but it's also hey, the
entire nation is more into it if we know that
sixteen teams can get it. I know for Syracuse now,
I know I have a shot to get in. Right
last year, if we had sixteen teams, I think Syracuse
gets in the playoff, right because the big win over
Miami at the end, other schools are saying, yes, we
can get in. If you are a three loss team,

(27:18):
you can potentially get into the college football playoff, And
that's great. Across the board, all the games become more interesting.
It's not that less games, it's stupid. All games become
more interesting because across the country people are. I'm keeping
track of all men. I'm so glad that so and
so lost because they had two losses. Now they have three,
we have two. We can move ahead of them, like

(27:39):
if I'm watching Syracuse and Pittsburgh and Syracuse winning, but
I'm also keeping an eye on Oregon and Washington because
Washington's got two loss and if they lose three, we'll
move ahead of them. This is how everybody thinks. Well,
but that's it. The games of November still have meaning
this way, right. It's like when they added another wildcard
team in baseball. You had people wring their hands a bit.

(28:00):
Guess what. In a lot of cities it became a hey,
you know, if we claw anywhere near to five hundred,
we've got a puncher's chance of getting one of those slots,
and if our pitching lines up properly, we get one
or two timely hits. Guess what upset said thank of football?
Right is final couple of weeks. Even if you're just
looking to play spoiler and take a team or two

(28:20):
out of playoff contention, you're still you have the rapt
attention of it for you on this expansion, Yeah, you
might have actually gotten a playoff. Berth so telling me
half butts in that other universe, you would have had glory.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, but Alabama would have gotten in, right, Alabama would
have gotten in.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Wow. They just need to shut up at this point. Right,
But I mean you're talking about but the amount of
crying this offseat like let it go.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh no, Well, I told you last night.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I'm sick of the SEC and the Big Ten saying
we're better than everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm sick of that crap. But I mean that's not
good about Dob.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
They would have gotten an extra team and they would
have been happy. You know, everybody would have been happy.
The wouldn't have been all this this this handwringing over
that final spot. Oh, we can let some big teams
in because it's not like teams are getting in like okay,
we're letting too many you know, mid major teams in
the in the college basketball tournament. These are all big
powerhouses and teams that are good it right, So I
mean it's gonna happen for that because that's better for

(29:15):
the sport, the more teams that can be in. And
Baseball's realize this. The NFL realized this, the NHL.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Real every every sport has realized more teams is better interest,
better relevancy, more eyeballs, it's better for us across the board.
And college football finally, hesitantly has been dragged across that
finish line like I'm gonna pull you with every ounce
of strength I have across this expand the playoff finish line.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And now we have it.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Now they just have to go and fight about, you know,
players getting paid and what's what the new rules are
and guardrails there. That's you know, small potato, like Brad
Pitt says in fight one fight at a time, Guys,
one fight at a time, one fight at a time.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
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interviews are happening on the floor at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Who's being interviewed?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
What is he saying?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Let's find out why? From Martin Weiss, who brought his
guitar in again tonight to do updates and tell us
what's trending.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Listen, once I can string together four cores and on
the singing update.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Guy, Okay, why do you need four?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
There's a lot of hits across musical landscape with three.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, maybe one. You could play anything by the clash.
All you need are three cord is true. That's Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
That's Jalen Brunson right now giving what I'm sure Jason
Smith might say is the best postgames interview in the world.
Thirty two points for thirty two points from Brunson on
twelve for eighteen from the floor. The final score one
eleven and ninety four. The Knicks keep their series alive.
That's Indiana three two in the Eastern Conference Finals. After
that Game five, you had almost four of the five

(31:05):
Nick starters in double figures. Carlington Towns had twenty four points,
Mikheale Bridges o Jananobi with twelve and eleven respectively. Tyreez
Haliburton was a mostly no show today. He did have
six assists, but only eight points on two for seven
from the floor. The Pacers were leading scoring by Bennett
Matherin off the bench with twenty three, Pascal Siakam had fifteen,

(31:25):
and the NHL well about one minute left Dallas has
an empty net, but Edmonton a two goal lead right
now in Edmonton a three to one lead in the
Western Conference.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Finals, so they are about a minute away from advancing.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
That'll mean your Stanley Cup Final will be between the
Florida Panthers and the Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And Major League Baseball bottom of the seventh.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Ending of the Rays having eight to three lead over
the Astros, bottom of the fifth on FS one, you'll
see the Nationals and the Mariners. That's a scoreless right now.
Had a double header today the Braves and the Phillies.
Game one went to Philadelphia five to four. Game two
win to Atlanta nine to three. Kyle Schwarber hit a
home run his nineteenth in Game one, and Chris Shale

(32:06):
reached two thousand and five hundred strikeouts in Game two.
The Blue Jays hit four home runs on the way
to blanking the A's twelve to nothing. And Michael Parsons
absent from OTAs still hoping to receive a long.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Term contract extension.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Prior to the start of the year, Dolphins and Steelers
in trade talk surrounding tight end John news Smith. Smith
has expressed interest in reworking his deal. He wants to
stay in Miami, but Miami obviously not necessarily wanted to
pay him that four point eight million dollars he's due.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
He was not seen at OTAs on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Back to you guys and Pat Fryer Ruth is calling
his agent going, there's no out in my contract. Right,
they're not cod like I still get all that money
I signed last year, right?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah. No, they're doubling down an event that Aaron Rodgers
doesn't show up, because that's the only past you're completing
against at the tight end. Oh no, no, I'll I'll
gie you more than that. They're gonna run the single
way that's gonna be. Just say, they're gonna have the
tight end in the backfield. They're gonna single wing offense.
Is how they're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
They need him to show up because otherwise they're running
at Arthur Smith offense. Be sure to check the Fox
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we break down the Nicks staying alive.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Does it mean they're gonna win in seven?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Keep you right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Well Dressed Cobot the next Stay Alive.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
They force Game six with a dominant effort against the
Pacers one eleven to ninety four. Right now, we have
a very special camera set up in studio. We are
following Scott Foster a round his house seeing if the
phone rings and he gets that phone call to officiate
Game six.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Maybe I gotta go. I'm the extender. He puts on
his uniform and he leaves jets out. He's like the
human torched. He flys out. Maybe you knew I had
to leave someday. No, but stead, I love you. I
can't put my feet down in one place for too
long because I'm the extender. Referee assignments are posted at
approximately nine am Eastern time each game day. I'm currently

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Atofficial dot NBA dot com.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Very nice, So he got that?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
I mean, so you had today's assignments replay center was
John Goebel, and then you have the WNBA referee assignments
for the two games listed as well. So guess what.
I'm gonna set an alarm cloud for five point fifty
on Saturday morning.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Can't believe George Goebel is officiating NBA game. It's amazing, Okay,
I gotta explain to Joe, I got explain the gen
X who George Goebel like?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Forget about me? Probably do that man.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
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he could have given you a big Jalen Brunson shot.
He could have given you something for Karl Anthony Towns.
But instead from tonight's NIXT went over the pacers play
by play of a foul that could have set the
NBA back fifty years.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Not yunning the basketball over in this series. Oh come on, now,
I've been kissed harder than that.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Clow you have.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Do you want to tell her? You want to tell
us more about that?

Speaker 5 (35:56):
I mean, these are the playoffs now, these officials know this.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
This I'm trusting in Zach Sarvin James Williams over there
that this will not be a flagrant pat.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
No way this will set playoff basketball back if they
if they deemed this as a flaguer Orange. It was
a ten point game a couple of minutes ago, and
now it's up to twenty two.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
They're taking a look at that play after you. There's
no wind up and no follow through.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
The impact is not with the standard for a flagrate fowl.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
There for a common foul stance.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
This was at the end of the third quarter that
on TNT.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Remember being kissed hard, isn't that? Yes? Very much?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
So?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh yeah, By Reggie Miller, I'm not going to say
by you. I got to keep it a mystery, was it?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Reggie? I'm not going to say did you lose a
hairm in the process or deny. It can to confirm
or denya? Uh was it a nice hat? That was
the end of the third quarter where uh, Pascal Siaka
was going in for a layup and there's a foul
that you know what it looked like. Honestly, it looked
like the Caitlin Clark foul on Angel Reese a little
bit where where I'm gonna hold your arms down and

(36:56):
Rick Carlisle comes off the bench like Hulk Hogan out
of out of the locker room.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Oh look at this, can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
And I'm watching Rick. Rick Carlisle makes it so easy
to hate him. No, No, it's so easy to hate.
But the difference in this fall when Clark had that
run in with Angel Reese, the ball's down around her
knees right, so the contact is there, there's a little
extra curricular shoved right off balance whatever, and a big
cell by Reese. Here's Siakams he's hit up top right.

(37:26):
It's not hey, his arms are down low and he's
gathering the ball like he's going to the to the
hoop and the contact is up around the shoulders and neck.
And so.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Do I want it to be a flagrant?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
No, But we've seen lesser called flagrance throughout this playoffs.
So the commentary of you know, I've been kissed hard
in that that's not a flager. I'm like, all right,
we've watched a lot of playoff basketball that's been a flagrant.
Nine times out of ten. It's at the stanchion and
he's going to the rack and the guy's up and
around his his shoulders and neck, and yes he does

(38:02):
pintin their arms down, sure, but it's from a different
point in the process. And it also it never puts
it never puts him in danger. Right, There was never
anything where I looked as oh, he could fall, because
that's always a big thing. They don't say it, but
I'm pretty sure that's always the tipping point for a
flagrant foul. Is did this foul put this player in
danger of getting injured? And there was no potential of

(38:24):
getting injured on that play, right, it was. It was
a hard foul. We've seen it before and and I'm
you know, I'm glad they did this. And it makes
me think that maybe they'll officiate Game six and let
him continue to play like they did, because hey, if
they officiate the if they let the teams be physical
Guess what, that's a Knicks advantage.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's a huge Knicks advantage for games.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
What was funny was listening to some of the radio
call on the on the drive up the good old
four or five today and the number of times they
were arguing in the boot like slap fighting over would
that have been a fall, like well, he hit the
shot so it didn't affect the shot.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Like he In the entire the entire series, I've listened
to them argue back and forth about about how oh,
because the shot went in, there was no foul called
and if there was a foul like.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
They've been arguing.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Those guys have been arguing that the entire like that's
talk radio. It's like watching part of the interruption when
they just keep arguing back and forth about well, I'll
see there's no there's no whistle there because the ball
went in.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
If there wasn't a made shot, there would have been
a whistle. Like the entire time driving up listening to
the game, like that's what they're saying. You had that
anticipation for the referee?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Is it an one?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Every time on ESPN radio it's there's a pout, Well,
this is where you and I are going to do Oh,
here we go again with a whole this a.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Hey man, that's the way to kill time.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Though. All right, we're gonna do the Is that a
follow or not?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I'll tell you this. You think there's not going to be,
They're not gonna find it. Sorry, Pat and Penning on
this idea. There's not going to be a way in
the next few years for play by play people to
do a game and to do a PTI type show,
a debate type show. Of course there is, Well, we
should be the first. Of course you can do doing
it for ten years. Exit up about year eleven of it. Man,
come on, Exit Swollen Dome. Maybe the Nicks had a

(40:05):
little bit of extra help to win tonight.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
We have a bizarre story coming up next as well
as how do I feel going to Game?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Six? Am? I go New York, Go, New York Go.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
That's next. Fuck.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
Friend Mike Harmon, It's My Upset Special more basketball coming
up in a second, but you know this is something
I wanted to bring this up tonight. The big highlight
of the day in sports, the big walk off home
run Women's College World Series, Ella Parker of Oklahoma second

(40:51):
home run of the game, Tennessee's pitcher, fastest pitcher in
college softball. Some of her pitches seventy five, seventy eight
miles an hour, Like she talks really really hard, and
she hits a big walk off homer and a snatch
a win out of the jaws of defeat.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
And now Oklahoma four time defending champion doesn't have to
go through the loser's bracket.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Scary squad man, they just keep coming.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Now.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Ella Parker's a sophomore, right and she's made all these
headlines today. And Ella Parker is someone I coached with
her dad in softball at our little league.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
She played in our little league at Westchester. I coached
Ella's younger sister in softball, Ava, who I think is
now a terrific volleyball player. And it's crazy seeing her
success being this good like all this, she's like the
number three recruit in the nation and she's hitting like
four hundred here she is now single handedly winning the

(41:45):
game for Oklahoma. Now, I say this because I gotta
ask you, do you know whose niece Ella.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Parker is now? She comes by, she comes by her
softball skills pretty honestly. She is Rodgers manager Dave roberts niece.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Now, I never saw you, never came to any of
the games. And maybe he came when because Ella Parker
was is a is a like probably four years four
years older than Zoe. So when I was there, her
sister was was Zoe's age, so that that's why we're
there at the same time. But seeing her like I
would see her. I remember seeing her games there where
she would be like, wow, she just hits the ball
like that. She's been she's been DP for Oklahoma now

(42:23):
for the first two years, and wow, can she just
she can just tattoo it and both those home runs today,
Like as soon as I said, oh, that's gone. Like
Pam and I went to lunch today and we go
when we sit down and I go, oh, hey, I'll
be right back. Ella Parker's gonna bat. I want to
go see her. Hid.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I go up and I go by, Wow, she crushes
that ball to the right field stands for home run.
I get back, Pem goes what happened? I go, she
had a home Runes. You didn't call me to tell me.
I go, what do you want me to say? Hey,
the ball's going out?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Cut?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Oh you missed it.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
You see the replay, he's only like three seconds from
the ball hits the bat. And do you know what's
the outcome of it's gonna be? You were gonna get
up here in three seconds and see that knobs? All right,
she's I could have seen the replay. I go, wait
three seconds, it'll be on I'll have it on Twitter
in a minute. I'm sure this will be on it.
You'll be able to see it. It's okay, what fun
time of year. Obviously Oklahoma going for that that five

(43:13):
count the King Kong Bundi five count.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Of titles in a row.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
We were talking about the million dollar nil deal in
at A and M and where we're at in the
larger continuum where it's all our most of the oxygen
is taken up by basketball and football when you talk
about athletes and payments. That it's good to see women's
softball getting a little run and on the national stage

(43:37):
getting a little bit of shine as well for the
competition it's become. Yeah, I mean it's a fun tournament, right,
I mean because probably Texas getting bounds straight like a
and m losing the first team to ever not when
they were the number one team in the country. I'm
making it out of their own regional I mean, that's
like a one to sixteen loss in the NCAA tournament,
like it really is something. We don't have a one

(43:59):
seed or in the in the college in the college
softball playoff. So big, big doings here as we saw this.
You can get walk offs anytime in the middle of
the day, don't have to don't have to wait too
Mutch Premier League, middle of the day, middle of the week,
now you can.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
You can get drama during the NEIL.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
You know me, I love my middle of the day soccer.
No question about a lot of chaos, a lot of
referees to yell at. So it's good.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Let's find out what's trending right now in the wide
world of sports. And Martin Weiss, he's got a he's
got his guitar in with him tonight. And I see
you at various times doing work on the computer. Fore
your updates and also playing your guitar like you're getting
everything done tonight at work.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You know, I try to be a multi fasted a
human being. What can I do? Okay? Very good bottom
of the night.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
Thenning the Rays with a ten run lead over the
Astros thirteen to three bottom of the seventh in in
the Nationals, and the Mariners Washington with the two to lead.
Of them three games in Major League Baseball outside of that,
two of them between the Phillies and the Braves. Game
one of that doubleheader, Phillies got five. That's a four,
Kyle Schwarber with a home run. There is nineteenth on

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the year, and the Braves got the next one, nine
to three, and the Blue Jays pounded the Athletics twelve
to nothing after eight runs in the second inning. Now
to the conference finals or finals, depending on which sports
you're talking about. Let's go to the Hockey one Western
Conference Final. Edmonton six to three over Dallas wins the

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series four to one over Dallas.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
That means the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
Final will be between the Florida Panthers and the Edmonton Oilers.
In the NBA, the Knicks stave off elimination three to two,
the series right now, one eleven to ninety four. The
final score of tonight's game Jalen Brunson with thirty two points,
Karl Anthony Towns had twenty four. Benettic Mathern ended up
leading the Pacers and scoring with twenty three points. Tyreez

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Halliburton on two for seven from the floor eight points.
Who's minus twenty three on the night. In the NFL,
Michael Parsons hoping to receive a long term contract extension
prior to the start of the season.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
He's not at OTAs.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Ricky Piersoll has a hamstring interust your injury, likely will
not return to practice until training camp, and the Dolphins
have expressed interest in trading tight end John new Smith.
John new Smith more interested in staying in Miami, but
the Dolphins want to restructure this four point eight million
dollars deal that he's owed to start next season. So
we'll see the Dolphins and Smith. I'm Smith not seen rather.

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At the second day of Dolphins OTAs and SIBEE president
Charlie Baker says there's value in expanding March Madness from
sixty eight teams to seventy two or seventy six teams.
He expects to reach a decision on that in the
next few months. Back to you guys, Thanks so much, Martin.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Now, just real, real quick on this, on this John
new Smith story, which doesn't make any sense because you know,
what do I say the Steelers, Hey, Omar Kahn, Mike Tomlin, Dude,
you guys, I don't know that you know what it
is to run a team in twenty twenty five to
not understand that the quarterback is the most important position
on the field and you got to take care of that,

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not try to get by with it. Right, It's an
antiquated way of doing things. I don't get how this
is how you run a team. I also don't get
how the Miami Dolphins being run right now. I don't
understand how in a year you go from all this
young talent a fast team that's going to change the
way the NFL is. Right, here's a young team that's
coming out here, we're fast. Good luck keeping up with us.

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And now they're starting over and they're talking trade with
the Steelers, trading away a Pro Bowl tight end when
they don't have anybody on the roster. It's not like
the Raiders, where every year we're taking a tight end
in the first round. So hey, well, if we want
to trade away our guy, you know, we still have
Mike Mayer, you know. I mean, I don't I don't understand.
The Dolphins don't have anybody.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
And if this is a trade where it's gonna be
John hu Smith for Pat Fryermuth, Okay, I kind of
get that a little bit. I okay, Well, Friar Muth
is not bad, and you don't want to pay John
Husmith more.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
But he's not been named in any of this. This
has not been Hey, they're talking to a tight end swap.
This is we're talking about a t with Jonny Smith
because we don't know if we want to pay him. Like,
what the hell is going on in Miami? How do
you have all this talent in how are you a
year ago? A little bit over a year ago? We
are ready to be the next great power? And good luck?
Because that's how I felt about them going great. I

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spent all this time looking up at the Patriots, and
now you look up at the Bills, and now the
Dolphins are good man. This stinks.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I hate being in the AFC East, but now I
look at it as Oh boy, what are the Dolphins doing.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I mean they don't have anybody there.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I mean I think Jim Jensen is the guy that's
gonna catch passes for that team. Now you like my
crash Jensen.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
No, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I mean you still have Wattle Hill, Westbrook, Kakine comes in,
he's solid in the out of the backfield, a chan right,
you brought in Alexander Madison. Insert your lines there. I
mean they're reuniting for the Tonys and whatever. So that's
good to do some Hamilton stuff. But then you're you're

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looking at the tight end position.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
It's Pharaoh Brown. You laugh at the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Well that's where he began in twenty seventeen, and he's
not hit so certainly not exactly operating for a position
of strength.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
They have currently six tight ends on their depth.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Chart, but none of them touch passes. None ever really good.
None of them touch passes. Now if they're really great blockers,
which is how Farrell Brown still collects his checks. I
guess you're looking for a guy to keep two upright,
But you're gonna trade.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Away a guy that had eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Catches for you No last year, don't understand Now part
of that also becomes the for the Steelers side of things,
that's the all right break glass in case of emergency.
If Rogers doesn't show up, not that he doesn't utilize
the tight end position, but let's face it, you get
into checkdown mode for any of those other quarterbacks that'll
be on the roster. Unless Captain Kirk finds his way,

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then you can push down field. The other being for
the Steelers, you're sitting there with what twelve thirteen picks,
I forget what the official number is now for the
twenty twenty six draft. So if they want to bring
him in and you've got room and you can finagle
money because you can always make the money work. We
talk about that all the time in terms of smoothing
things out. Whatever that you want to bring him in,

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it's another body, right, it's another He's a good, good player,
there's no question about that. Is he a difference maker
down the field replacing what you lost when you traded
away George Picking? No, but a guy with sure hands
in a division where for two months out of the
year you're hoping that the winds aren't cutting down anything

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beyond an eight yard pass, an extra tight ends not
the worst thing to have.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
No, look, it's not.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
And knowing this would be a good trade for the Steelers, right,
I'm saying this would be a good trade. Hey, we're
gonna pay this guy because clearly this means we're gonna
run the football lot, right. Uh yeah, I'm just just
missing the Dolphins, even though we get I mean, by
this primetime games, I've already written them off. At the
same time, though, at the still like like, like, you
gotta get your quarterback things situated.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Man, I mean really, I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
I don't get that how they just Hey, we're gonna
we're gonna get by with whatever we can get by
with a quarterback. I mean it's really it's like me
getting into my car going, hey, I'm gonna drive to
work right now. But you don't have air in your tires.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I'm gonna get by. Yeah, but it's leaking. It's you're
gonna run out of air in the freeway. Yeah, it's fine,
I'll be I'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I'll get by. I'm just gonna get by. But the
rest of my car is great, right.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
The whole I got the bows audio, the I got
the stereo sounds, great.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
The air conditioning works.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds awesome, right, the the the built
in GPS.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
No, everything else.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
The seat is comfortable, I got the the you know
the the seat is gonna I can I can make
it hot or cold. I can cool the seat. No,
I got a great car. Yeah, but the tires are
the most But yeah, whatever, really that I'm gonna run
out of air kind I'll get by.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I'll be able to get to work and drive home.
It'll be fine. No, it doesn't happen that way.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
I really thought you were gonna go up Cramer, uh,
trying to ride out whatever gas is left in the
in the system. But yeah, for the Dolphins, a lot
of curiosity, right, we question why they got so many
prime time games in a division that it would look,
at least on paper, that the Patriots are going to
pass them by again. Right, So where now you're you're

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challenging the Jets for the bottom and raced down to there.
But to a tongue of Vailoa, good and efficient quarterback
went upright and ready to play. You've got a couple
of great wide receivers and then a lot of questions.
Skill positions fairly sut but losing an eighty eight catch guy.

(52:29):
Oh yeah, that's tough. That's how it goes man, that's
a all right, let's find the money in the room
and everybody cough up a buck so I.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
We'll have more NFL on the way.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
But right now, well have a game to play. Bad
news is magic Johnson is not tweeting quitter after the
Knicks have sent the Eastern Conference Finals to game six.
But the better news is we still have a game
to play. Justin Frossburg has a home cook game.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Oh, coming off of Game five of the Eastern Conference Finals, Frostburg,
what do we.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I mean, we shouldn't even be celebrating this? But why not?

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Why shouldn't we be?

Speaker 3 (53:05):
We absolutely should not be. Why not?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
It's fine to celebrate it. Why should we not be
celebrating You had them at their funeral today, Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
The calling hours were supposed to be tonight, but they won,
so we postponed the calling out.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I mean, I found a lot of songs about funerals,
some Irish dirges, some Lannigan songs. Maybe that's why that
guy threw the bottle at my car when I was
driving in You didn't he didn't like the land again.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
It's tough to host one of those when they're alive
and kicking, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yeah, that's why wait, wait for it. Hey, wait a minute,
we got some news from the hospital. Yeah, well, just
we're gonna we're gonna postpone it for a couple of days.
It's gonna wait a little bit. It's inevitable, but it's
like an arrest of development. We've lost George Senior. What wait,
let him finish, Let him finish. Yeah, he just left
the hospital. We don't know where he is.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Why would you say things like that? All right, So
what's the game, Frostburg?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
What do we got?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
All right, Well, there's a lot of cheap tickets courtside
at the next game, as we all know. Sure, yes,
they're so cheap that the people don't even pay for them.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Cheap they are.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Now, it was this celebrity sitting court side at game
five at Madison Square Garden. Oh okay, was the celebrity
court side?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Okay, all right, very good, let's go.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
What's ready?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Yeah, Howard Stern? Did I see Howard Stern in the cutaway? Say?

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Front row?

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I mean like the first three rows. I think that's
celebrity row. There.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah, but he's only the He said if I'm I'm
never gonna sit in the second row. I either sit
in the first row. I'm not going to the games.
And you actually said that. He said that a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
He should have been.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Decade.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I'm not a second row guy. I'm good.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I sit in the first row right and go to games.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I saw Howard Stern at the games, and I'm gonna
say no. I'm gonna say no he was.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
I agree, no on Howard, you're both pig vomit.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
He was not at the game. W wain BC, w
n BC, w n BC. All right, all right, one
for one, very good. All right, I'm feeling hot. You
think pig vomb had ever met with Pete Rose? Hmmm, Uh,
maybe he was in a room at some point as
a kid.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
I just thought nephew was a shaboozy at the game
court side. O, your.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Gosh, Chaboozi was chaboozy at the game. I feel like
he's at every game. Oh did I not, Drake? Did
I see Chaboozi? I don't know that. I said, See,
that's what sucks about being on the ra or doing
the game like I can't see all the couple. I'll
take the being out in the air, but I want

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to win this game. I like, I get it. I'm
gonna say Shaboozy was there. I'm gonna say no, neither
of us have any idea, but I'm saying he was there. Well,
you're correct, Chaboozy was there, your gus Chaboozy in the
house two for two. Beckham sitting courtside a game. David

(55:57):
Beckham was David Beckham court side Crisps Boots.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I'm gonna say, yeah, I did not see him.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
He didn't see Shaboozie either. No, but I got but.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I was right.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I guess right. I'm gonna say I'm hot. I'm feeling hot. Yeah,
I'm gonna see he checked. I'm gonna say David Beckham
was not at the game tonight and I said, yeah,
yeah he was. Wow, you're letting Smith win.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Woo oh.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
He checked Smith. He checked Smith. Give me the ball,
Give me the ball. I'm like Brunson on the fourth
he checked, Okay.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Go.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Was John Mellencamp at the game.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Sitting next to Pat McAfee.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Never wanted to see no be pop singer. I no, no,
I don't. I'm gonna say, did he travel to New
York to tell everybody he's not going to New York? Sorry,
people made fun of you Knicks fans. I'm gonna say no.
For John Mellencamp, you are correct, all right? I feel
good about right. That was one of the dumbest things
I've seen in recent memory. He wants to make sure

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people Indiana hospitality means something, but all the guy does
his stand at a microphone and yell at people that
are there at his concert. Hey, John sing it soup?
Hey you know Jobby would He'll be a game six,
He'll be okay, all right?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
One more?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
One more was Diddy at the game tonight. I'm gonna
go out and live and say, oh, not at the
game tonight.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I think we would have gotten more coverage of that one.
I need baby Oil. Not at the game? Whoa not
at the game? Not at the game?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
No, no, no, said there, You're gonna give me like
a Marishka Hargeta because I saw what we saw her well,
because they were probably talking about the fact that Giddish
is coming back as a full time cast member for
next season of so their buddies and hanging out together.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
All right.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
I mean Stiller was there. They showed shallow May and
Spike Lee in that great nick. I think, come on,
that guy got a lot of screen time. Yeah, but
Miike Lee was dressed like a batman super villain like that.
He looked great man. I thought he looked like you
ever see what was it all about the Chew Chew
train with Genevieve? Like it was on Disney in the mornings,

(58:07):
and it was like this little thing where they'd sing
a song. She was dressed like a conductor. Wait, well
you had the conductor and then she was like the
ticket taker. Oh yeah yeah with Genevieve. Yeah yeah, that
that was the superhack combination to me that it looked
like it was straight off of that interesting Oh I
never thought about. Now you gotta go back and look
at that chug Ington. That's what you're going with.