June 4, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith gives you reason #1 why the Knicks fired Tom Thibodeau earlier today after leading them to the team’s best season in 25 years. And we update you on Sam Darnold’s struggles at Seahawks OTAs. Plus, the Play of the Day!
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Long, long time ago.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Oh, I remember a month ago when we predicted it
would happen.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Oh, tips, you had a job at this time yesterday.
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Tip.
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Maybe if you had unfolded your arms.
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Tip, maybe you.
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Well, yes, you thought, what kind of basketball headlines are
we gonna have to get us the game one of
the NBA Finals entear the Knicks and Tom Thimbodeau fired
after the best run in the last twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Losing in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Now, let me just say what Mike Harmon alluded to
a few moments ago. Okay, I am not surprised. We
talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I am
not surprised. Right, There's lots of different things. But the
first thing I will tell you is this, Right before
you want to dive into the roster and defense and
Karl Anthony Towns, before you want to dive into this
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and Who's next and all the stuff, all the 'ren
our testa metal world pieces. I want to be that
I'm ready for the smoke, right, what a campaign, dude.
I'll tell you the most fun Well, the most fun
thing today was watching the Rockies win a series. The
second most fun thing today was watching the number of
people who trended because fans were saying, what if this
guy was the knicks next head coach? Right, here's met
(02:49):
a world peace, here's Rick Patino.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Come on, what you do do it?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Doc Rivers is out there?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Don't don't you sold me? Don't you say that?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Come on, man, that.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
That would be the greatest thing for the man for
the furthering of the show during the long arduous run
that is the NBA regular season, to be able to
chronicle that on a day to day basis and mine,
come on, I.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Know you and I are at Odds Frostburg with the
Mets Dodgers coming up in a few minutes. Yes, that's
over the line, man that I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers
on you. I wouldn't risk Doc Rivers on anybody. I'm
pretty I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers on the White Sox.
That's how much I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers on anybody.
You know what, He might actually eke out it.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Although Venable is doing a pretty good job with a
bad roster, and they at least come out and fight
these days.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But's fault's fault.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's all his fun. Bring the hometown kid, Doc Rivers home.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Before you get to everything, there is a really there's
a really easy way that I think people are just
blowing past. Which is what And you know why the
Knicks fired TIBs today after their greatest season in twenty
five years. Think for a second, right outside, you know,
big NBA fans, we all watch Eastern Conference Finals. Yes,
the Knicks lost, it was really difficult. Their flaws were
(04:16):
all exposed. But just think about being around the Knicks
for the last couple of days with this right, the
Knicks lose and it is heartbreaking. And not only that
they are not over a Game one that is going
down in the annals of NBA history as the biggest
blown loss in the history of the game. I can't
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overstate that enough. The Knicks lost Game one, blowing a
lead in the final minute that nobody in the history
of the game is blown. Right, we went back and
looked the record fourteen hundred and fourteen wins and no
losses and when the NBA was taken keeping track of
this right from the mid nineties, right fourteen fourteen to
zero with a nine point lead and fifty seconds left
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to go on regulation, and you know what, you know
a team has never blown a lead like that even
before that, because teams didn't hit threes for the for
the early part of the nineties and the eighties, they
didn't take that many shots. Before that, there was no
three point shot. So I guarantee you nobody in the
one hundred some odd years since since Nasmith said, hey,
cut the holes out of the peach bask easy to
get the basketball back. So if that's no one has
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blown a lead this decade. So yeah, this is an
all time worst loss in the NBA. This is a
loss that stays with the team and franchise forever. It's
Reggie Miller on steroids because this was Hey, at least
the Knicks won that series at Reggie Miller made the
choke sign. This was blowing Game one watching Halliburton's miracle
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shot fall doing the choke sign. It is an all
time embarrassing Game one and series loss for the Knicks.
You're naive if you think a team can just sit
there and say, well, we'll get him next year. We
didn't have as good a roster. The Pacers were a
better team. No, some losses you can't come back from
because they're just that bad.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Not all losses are created equal. Some losses are worse
than others.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Some losses make the worst losses look like a kid
given out candy. This was one of those Game one
We've never seen it before, a team has never had
that happen. When something like that happens, you can't just
bring the guys back next year. You can't just say, okay,
roll it back, we'll make some There needs to be repercussions.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
There needs to be fall up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
We told you after Game one if they lose this series,
the guys are gonna look at is gonna be TIBs
and Karl Anthony Towns?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And who are the guys? Tibbs and Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
All the Karl Anthony Towns criticism the last few days,
and now Tibbs gets fired today. Sometimes a loss is
just so bad you can't bring TIBs back because he's
a memory and a reminder, an every day walking institution
of we blew that lead against the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
We're gonna blow it again. You're gonna see this in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Every time a team is up nine with a minute
left to go, Reggie Miller is gonna say, remember the
Pacers next in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Reggie Miller's going.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
To be ninety eight years old at like thirty years
from now, and it's gonna be saying, remember.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
When the Pacers did it back in twenty five with
Hella Burton.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That's exactly how it's gonna go. You can't bring them back.
That's why I'm not surprised at all. The Tims got
fired because this loss and then the series loss was
just so bad you have to start anew You have
to start and say, Okay, we gotta move away from
this because this is just gonna hang over the franchise.
I mean it's gonna hang over the franchise enough already,
but bringing back the same cast of characters, it's like
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a cloud, like the cloud that follows pig Pen, you know,
the in the Peanuts. Like that's what's gonna happen. And
that's why the Knicks had no choice, and I understand it.
I'm not surprised with the fire and Tims because some
losses are just so bad you have to move on
and start new, and this is one of those losses.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I like that you said, and the peanuts kind of
like you were going, it's not said, not just peanuts,
the peanuts.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Look, it's it's the thing we've.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Talked about for a month is that you had eighty
two games to try to what else was on the
roster instead of grinding out win in game fifty five, right,
fifty seven whatever. Middle of the season, Hey, you play
forty two. Well, at no point did you develop continuity.
And we saw it exacerbated when Brunson had to leave
(08:16):
a game for a short period.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
With an injury.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
It was like, they look absolutely lost, right. You had
several turnovers in a row, a couple of shot clock violations,
a lot of pointing as if it was the Spider
Man meme come to life. No continuity there, And so
when all of a sudden you get to the playoffs
and it's like, all right, we need some depth. Cat
picked up his requisite too, silly fouls early, so we
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need to go to the bench. Oh wait, now we
can't use him because he can't play defense and he's
in foul trouble. All of those things to say, it's
an imperfectly structured roster, and we've been clear about that
talking about that the whole season for those that live
and die by Jason's Knicks fandom and Mets fandom, but
(09:05):
Nicks fandom, We appreciate you being part of the show.
That means you listen a lot if you get triggered
by it, So thank you. Just stay with us because
it's gonna it's gonna be a wild off season. But
for this move, you say, hey, congratulations on a job done.
Here's a giant pile of money to go out the door,
and you try to figure out what's next. The roster
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is gonna go through an overhaul, and Rose is certainly
on the under the microscope here as to what kind
of depth and where we're looking at for the NBA
and things changing with these two teams that'll square off
starting Thursday, when you're running ten sometimes eleven deep right
and fast break points and ability to get out of
(09:47):
that versus all right, slow the ball down and take
nothing from brunts, and you can decide whether you want
them on your top five in the game today. Jason
put that poll question out on air last week. But
it's just that idea of all right, how do you
restructure this and what's the direction going forward? And with
Thibodeau as the face, the gruff, non responsive in many
(10:11):
ways coach of this squad in New York. That's just
not gonna stand right. The expectation really went through the
roof after beating the hated Celtics, and that game one
loss will forever stain whatever legacy. Now Cat got him
fired twice so that we should remember that. It's like
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this guy again, all right, and you know all all
the things we've talked about. You know, you can only
hide him so long, and defensively, that was the reason
he didn't fit with what Minnesota was trying to do.
And you thought you'd be able to piece it together.
But again, if you're only gonna run six seven deep
and you don't have big men on the bench to
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spell adequately, and you can only cover up defensive lacking
uh issues by Brunson and Cat so long before you're exposed.
And Indiana did it. So now it's to the next
iteration of the Knicks. And it was fun watching all
the names. As you said, the bell odds great, The
betting odds had I think thirty five guys on it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, freight, where we're done? Where was Stephen A? Smith.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Where where was he was he in the take no
hold on a second, Let.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Me way behind Doc Rivers?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh he is no, but look, but just think about
it because normally we see it with players. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Usually when when a manager oversees a collapse and a
team loses, it's a we collapsed over the course.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Of the end of the regular season.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We collapsed in the playoffs, and that's why coaches get fired.
This is a one series thing, but it had We've
seen it. Sometimes you don't realize you see it, but
you do. I'll go back to last year in Major
League Baseball, right, so let's me bring up pe A
Lonzo's home run. Devin Williams one of the best closers
of Major League baseball, right.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
One of the best.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Now, he's hurt a little bit last year, but guy,
give up one home run all season. He is as
lights out a closer as there was. Right, fastball, change up,
that's all you needed, right, That's all Marianna Rivera needed.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But he gives up the big.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Home run to Alonso and the ninth inning of a game,
the Brewers had a two to nothing lead and they
were moving on to the NLDS, and they gave up
four runs in the inning and they lost.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Sometimes a loss is.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So bad you couldn't bring him back, Right, You couldn't
bring Devin Williams back.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You couldn't bring the You couldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Bring the guy back, because it's just the loss against
the Mets would hang over. You don't know, is he's
still gonna be the same guy. He's gonna be thinking
about that loss. It's a daily reminder of the home
run because that home run was such a big deal.
It wasn't just hey, he gave up a home run.
They lost a game. This was ninth inning. Man, come in,
shut the door. It's a two run lead. It was
so bad the Brewers had to move on from him.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's not like he wanted up a big contract. It's
not like there was a.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Situation where he's gonna hit free agency or where the
Brewers knew we can't go, we can't move on with him,
and we have to deal him.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So they traded him to the Yankees. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I mean, that's really why it happens with players. Mostly
guys at miss field goals, Guys that give up big
home runs, got guys that that that melt down in
a pitching situation, right when when you Darvish couldn't come
back to the Dodgers after that big World Series melt
down when alleged he was tipping pitches like that's it, Like,
you can't come back after this. Usually it's players, but
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this was such a big deal and and you know
where are you gonna go? You can't bring the head
coach back because that's too much a reminder of how
bad things were. And you just need a fresh start,
no matter who it is. You'd a fresh start with
this team and go forward because it's young, you're building.
And again that's why I'm not surprised at all that
this happened.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
It's just the negative part of being the face of
the franchise. They become the face of the franchise, futility
at fifty two years the foff as it.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Were, Jason all that said, he got fired because the
nick sucked.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They stop that.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We were there were three teams left and we were
one of them. We were in the final three.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
We're going to the finals, and we told you no, no, no,
you got to you're not getting past the pacers.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
All right, righty, stephen A is sixty to one sixty
to one.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Doc Rivers, Really, he's not on.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
The short list. I'm looking at here. I got Johnny
Bright from.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
She's not a favorite new List.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Wait, Stephen A. Smith has shorter odds than Doc Rivers.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
No, at least from Bovada what they had put up earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Then.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Well, I mean they also had Patrick Ewing at plus
nine point fifty with Sam Cassel and Mike Budenolzer.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Oh wow, okay, all right, all right, Mark Jackson at
fourteen to one.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Okay, Jeff Van Gundy return at twenty five to one.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Stephen, what do you think of the what do you
think of the nixt performance tonight? You know, they're they're
three and one, their first loss.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Of the season. It was appalling. It was atrocious. It
was depressing. It was disgusting, distressing. It was frightful. It
was ghastly.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It was horrifying.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It was shocking. It was ugly. It was unpleasant. It
was abominable. It was repulsive. It was on sited, it
was grungy, it was deplorable like that.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean, I want to see that, just to see
the postgame Prescott.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I think that's also how he described the press release
in which they announced this instead of having the guts
to do it personally.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So I'm telling you reason number one. That's why. Sometimes
there's sauces you just can't come.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Back from.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
If you're ready.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know what, at the Crossburg your Lakers were watching
the playoffs for like a month on Magic Johnson's yacht
before the Knicks got eliminade.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Sometimes we got to take a year off.
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story of the day and an NFL trade that was on,
it was off and now it could be on again.
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more on TIBs getting fired by the Knicks, because hey,
(16:33):
you needed a basketball Jones to get you to Game
one of the Finals, We got it.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
We got tips out. He had a good run.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, and listen, just think when it's a when it's
when it's a four game suite by the thunder, what
we're gonna be talking about. Who the Knicks head coach
is gonna be. It's gonna be, it's gonna be stretch
into the office. Stop saying Doc River America.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Let's get doc trending.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Stop saying Doc stop with it. No, no, no, we
don't need that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Man.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I'm Madison Square Garden, hashtag, Alonso RBI single, Hashtago, Tani
strikeout looking Hell, let's hashtag all those things.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Because all those things just don't have a kid he
can put on the sideline that would be ready to
coach Wow, Now that that's next level right there.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Call her buddy Evan Rosenbloom at TMZ and see if
you come up with something there that's outstanding.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, I got more six guys he can he
can send up there, which.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Which of the sun gets the role and we'll have
more than the tib story coming up in a few minutes.
But you know, this is one thing where you know,
you know, we're in the point of the calendar where
we're waiting for football, right like like here I get
you know, the NBA Finals are coming. Tims gets fired.
You know, Baseball is is you know, we've we hit
the first third mark of the season and we're getting on.
(17:49):
We're seeing how many games the Rockies, Well, congratulations, Rockies
won a serious night. Yeah, but we're in that part
where we're waiting for football, right, We're waiting for football
or waiting for training camp. You know, it's it's beginning
of June and it's okay, how much longer you know
the players are off, but all right, they're gonna be
here soon and we're gonna be able to pick. We're
waiting for football, which means this John hu Smith story
(18:10):
is way too overcovered. And but it makes up for
being overcovered by being stupid, So there's that as well.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well. I don't think it's so.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't think it's overcovered.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Though, because it really does.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
U You got two franchises, one that is being held
hostage for that other story that's still lingering, right, I
mean because because look, if we don't have John hus
Smith and you want to talk football, what we got
Deon Sanders was a gift yesterday, right, and then otherwise
it's hey, Aaron Rodgers, did he h lick.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
His finger and hold it up to see which way
the wind was blowing. I mean, that's it. That's all
we got right now.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
But the John new Smith is like, wait, are the
Dolphins like giving up?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And he's taking it's overcovered and it's over stupid. It's
both of those things, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I like over stupid. We're gonna pat in that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Last week we.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Had the story that you know, here's big NFL trade
that could becoming that John Whusmith, one of the best
tight ends in the NFL, coming up for a contract extension.
Dolphins potentially don't want to pay it, so they were
talking trade with the Steelers. This makes no sense. We
talked about it at the time. Why because the Dolphins
don't have another tight end on the roster catch balls.
You're gonna say goodbye to a guy called eighty eight
passes last year.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, you're tanking.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This would be stupid for you to do unless you're
tanking for the Steelers. You still don't have a quarterback man.
You're talking about trading for John Newsmith and giving him money.
You're have anybody to throw the football because you're waiting
to see if Aaron Rodgers wants to come play for you.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Well, was this a move for Mason Rudolph?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
We get we get the duel tight end between him
and friar Mouth. You only have to complete a ball
between five and ten yards.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I mean, come on it, it might actually be genius.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
They called Mason Rudolphin and said, hey, Mason, what do
you need to succeed this year?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I need another tight end?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Right, So you already have Friarmuth, who is pretty good. No,
we're adding John hus Smith right, and you don't have
a quot So this is stupid. Okay, then, okay, we
get the story earlier today Adam Schefter report the deal
is off. Deal is off. John new Smith is not
getting del that's not gonna happen. We're not gonna have
John new Smith going to the Steelers. Okay, the trade
is off, all right, great, and then a few hours later,
(20:11):
oh no, the trade is back on. Okay, now can
we stop with the stupid because now we're back to
the story from last week where it's just stupid. Because now, okay,
now we're back to like each each side realized, okay,
this is kind of stupid, and you know, we don't
want to be seen as tanking. We don't want this
to happen. Let's call this off. No, no, no, no, let's go
back and now let's do it. So now the trade
is back on again, and they could be in there.
(20:31):
It's back on in which they're talking about it, not
back on in which they've made the trade.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So we can go.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Back to our take of last week that this is
stupid because the Dolphins are only doing this, that their
tanking and the Steelers are doing it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Who knows why.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I don't know why. We don't have a quarterback. But
now let's get another tight end. Is that gonna work
with Aaron Rodgers? Does Aaron Rodgers never really threw the
ball to one tight end. Let let alone, he's gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It to two guys? Come on, man, what is what
is happening? Being?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Teams have lost their minds. That's why this entire.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Story it was stupid then, ok, clear has prevailed.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Now it's stupid again.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, looking at it from the Dolphins side, because they've
got so much swirling. Right, you had the season with
Tua tonguea Bai Looa missed some games, but all in all,
you know he's ready to roll. You've got tyreek Hill
who's been on a pr Let's clean up a bunch
of mess in the background. Here is Hey, I'm happy
to be here. But is he a post June first?
(21:25):
Right now we're June third? Is he gonna get dealt? Right?
There's been a lot of talk about that. And Jalen
Wattle disappeared a year ago, right, his numbers were down.
So is the the bloom come off the rose? That
was Mike McDaniel, Right, he was supposed to revolutionize thing.
He was the super genius. He stakes and that's with
a top five running back in a chan Right. So,
(21:48):
so you've got a passing game that isn't working.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You're not setting the league up fire.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You're getting passed by the Patriots and their rebuild and
whatever Vrabel's able to do. And the Jets might have
more explosive plays in their offense with Justin Fields under
center than what you've been building for several years. So yeah,
let's trade an All Pro guy who caught eighty eight
balls and kept the chains moving to at least give
(22:14):
you a puncher's chance at a bunch of games.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So none of it, none of it makes sense. None
of this makes sense now unless, hey, you're tanking. If
you're the Dolphins, which, wow, man, a year ago they
were the up and coming. I still can't get over
the fact that they were so a year ago. Now
is watch out for the Dolphins. Their speed, they're revolutionized
in the NFL. And now maybe they're tanking. Maybe maybe
they're gonna wind up tanking, and the Steelers just continue
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to prove that, Look, we really don't know what we're doing.
We just come to work every day and just you know,
who knows, We don't know. We whatever decide, whoever we
decide that sounds good to us, We're gonna do whether
or not it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
For the team or not.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, as long as you need to do without a quarterback,
it's absolutely fine.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Do you think instead of the sign like the at
Notre Dame where it's just play like a champion today
that everybody has to slap out, it's like we're not
having a losing season and you slap that on your
way through the door to go decide how you're building
your roster.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, they just go five hundred, five hundred is our chat.
Like every push up they finish every eight.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm willing to give. I'm willing to get benefit that
they go nine and eighty.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They go, okay, nine and eight, nine and eight, nine
and eight, I'm willing to say that they'll go that far.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's just amazing though, right, and we see all sorts
of ridiculous trade trade offers and rumors and things out there,
and it's trying to go through and parse through the noise,
and usually it's pretty obvious when it's bogus. This one
has been reported very widely, and you've got two franchises
(23:44):
that seemingly are in no man's land, like the Rogers thing.
I think there's a handshake deal and eventually we get
to that point, and now it's just everybody's being held
hostage in the news cycles. Uh. And it gives us
one thing that is a consistent thread, waiting on OTAs
into training camp, which is still along seven eight weeks away.
(24:07):
But this for the Dolphins, it really makes no sense
in any way, shape or form. You're what you're tanking
to get into the quarterbacks who mayor and may not
be any good Arch Manning, have we seen enough? Yeah,
he runs fast. That's the highest compliment you can throw him.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
He's faster than the other Mannings. I don't I don't
think that's the cell point for Hey, let's tank right.
Every other quarterback has a giant question mark and.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
We're like, all right, we're gonna pop them up because
you know they may get there, but none of them
have the requisite starts. Right, we always talk twenty five
thirty be in the benchmark. They all still have a
lot of prove it. Arch Manning is the king of.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That great pedigree, great program.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Historically, it would say that he doesn't actually come out
even if he has a great season based on the
family's track record. Oh yeah, right, So I mean like
you may be raising and it's like, oh, we're number one.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It's like, yeah, he's decided to go back to school.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Not damn it all the hell, especially especially coming out
of that Cooper Flag report that he reported he reportedly
made twenty eight to thirty million dollars. You're telling me
Arch isn't creeping up towards that money at Texas.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh, of course he is.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Of course he is good.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So you know the wait, I can stand another year
and do that when the rookie wage scale has dictated
by the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
What I stay here another year? I'm better off.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studio again, none of it. But if
you're tanking Dolphins, congratulations. We'll have more on Tom Thibodeau
coming up in a couple of seconds, but right now,
time to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports. But guy who's been called the TIBs of
Fox Sports Radio because he's not working tomorrow either, it's
deep to.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Say they call me mister tubbs. After five years in
New York, the Knicks fired their head coach Tom Thibodeau today.
Last summer, he signed a three year contract extension through
twenty twenty eight. New York's had back to back fifty
win seasons for the first time since nineteen ninety five,
and the Nicks just made the East Finals. Indiana's in
(26:16):
the NBA Finals starting Thursday at Oklahoma City, and.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Then Game two of the series will be Sunday.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Indiana, by the Way in the finals for the first
time since two thousand. Guard Tyrese Haliburton was born in
two thousand three. WNBA games tonight eight and oh Minnesota
won again, beating Phoenix eighty eight sixty five. Indiana with
a home win over Washington eighty five seventy six. Caitlin
Clark still out with the string quad. The late game
has Dallas at one in six, leading at Seattle thirty
(26:44):
eight to thirty at the half. The Stanley Cup Final
starts Wednesday, Florida at Edmonton. The NHL Awards by the
Way will be held just before game four of the series.
US women's soccer has won four nothing tonight over Jamaica
at an exhibition in Saint Louis. Number two seed Carlos
Alcarez won his quarterfinal let the French Open, beating American
Tommy Paul in straight sets for Vikings defensive end Jim
(27:07):
Marshall died at the age of eighty seven. He played
two hundred and seventy straight games with Minnesota through nineteen
seventy nine. As for the games in progress in the
Major leagues, the Royals lead ten to seven at Saint
Louis in the bottom of the eighth. Mariners and Orioles
tied one to one bottom of the third. Houston is
(27:27):
even with Seattle for the moment in the Al West standings.
Houston has won three nothing at Pittsburgh, beating Paul Skeins,
who had eight strikeouts in eight innings. But Skeens is
four and six despite lowering his ERA to two point
h five.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
The Astros must have cheated Stephen.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
The Giants are up two to nothing on the Padres
in the top of the fourth. A's out to an
early one nothing lead on the Twins bottom of the second.
The A's have lost eighteen of nineteen. Yay, but Colorado
won on the road again. You know, before last night
they were three and twenty eight in the road games
this year. They've won two straight at Miami, three to two.
(28:04):
Tonight's final Rockies had ended in eight game losing streak.
Last night, Cubs won eight three at Washington. Cincinnati over
Milwaukee four to two. That ends the Brewers' eight game
winning streak. As Red center fielder TJ. Friedel robbed a
two run homer, catching the final out. The Yankees held
on three to two over Cleveland. The save to Devin Williams,
although he allowed to run in the ninth. Yankee closer
(28:26):
Luke Weavers on the injured list with a strain hamstring.
Bryce Harper of the Phillies returned after the Bruce delbo
and Tonight homered in the first. In fact, Philadelphia scored
six times in the top of the first and won
at Toronto eight three. That ends the Blue Jays five
game winning streak. Arizona and Tampa Bay each one. Angels
won in ten at Boston four to three. The White
Sox beat Detroit eight to one. The White Sox won
(28:50):
nothing in the six and beat a Tigers team that
entered with a record of forty and twenty one while
the White Sox were just eighteen and forty two. And
we can update the game at Dodger Stadium first and left.
This this is actual news. The Dodgers canceled batting practice
because of pregame.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Rain, no rain this evening.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well, now they're having batting practice in the first inning.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
And for Mets, the Tyler McGill show. Well, he's allowed
four runs in the first inning. And yeah there was
the early home run, the early run scored I should say,
by New York the Lonzo RBI singles set up by
Clayton Kershaw, wild pitch. But it's now Dodgers for one
over the Mets. In the bottom of the first, Max
Munsey with a two run homer, his eighth of the year.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Back to you, gee, thanks Steve, I appreciate that. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So remember it's ty lore.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Right, because it's Tyler, but every time I see his
name and.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
And then the other McGill is actually better. So you know,
we got the two McGill brothers.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
We have the one, and this first inning is going
down in some lore.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yes, yes, nicely guns well played.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So look, we talked about the big reason why Tibbs
got fired by the Knicks, because so stop with that
their better stop stop you upset the Laker fan.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Just stop.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
It has nothing to do with the Lakers. The Knicks.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
We were in the Eastern Conference finals. Man, it's not
like sixties.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I thought you were beating the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Dude, we were, Dude.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
You couldn't beat any but you couldn't get out of
the first round against a guy who shows up when.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
He feels with dude.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. No, it's like, dude,
I want you to be serious. Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You okay?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Broh was this guy?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Brob's gonna keep Bascal siakaming?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
You?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You okay?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Bro? You you cool?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You're good? Bro.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
You guys got TIBs fired. The only well it look
five bombs in the bench.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
This is the only part of this that I'm upset
about today, because again I told you I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm not up.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Look, the Knicks need a clean start because of this
loss was just so bad. I'm okay with the new direction,
and it's fine. Here's the only I hate Tibbs getting
fired because it gives the bleeping Pacers another w right,
because it was not only did we beat the Knicks,
not only did we win against our all time rival,
not only do we win in a way which embarrasses them.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
We got through the joke sign again.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Now Halliburton and Reggie Miller can sign pictures together a
card shows for the next thirty years and make money.
We'll split this money. No, no, now it's oh, we
got TIBs fired. Like it's another win for the Pacers
who win, and they win without class and all, and
they're moving on and now they're just saying, oh, yeah,
look now we got TIBs fired and they're laughing going
(31:36):
into the NBA Finals. That's the only thing I'm upset
about is that it gives the Pacers another w.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Because they got TIBs fired. Well, but it was inevitable, right,
It's the Fano snap.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
And I guess if you can trade on this, look,
if they go out and get absolutely curb stumped by OKC,
it has its weight to a point, right, because the
sting of getting absolutely dominated by SGA and the greatness
that is the combination of Chet and lou Dort will
(32:10):
will send them into oblivion. So the short lived successes
of vanquishing the Knicks, it's not really gonna stay. Now
we see them in the playoffs matched up again next year.
Sure there's a lot of run and you'll get some
good b roll of TIBs with his arms folded ahead
of Game one and the crowd hight video. There's no
(32:31):
question about that. A distraught Chalamet or Spike Lee or
whatever else they do with his little train conductor hat on,
all of those things will be there. But you can't
live there like this is where you knew it was
gonna happen. The Knicks fan base was calling for change,
and the obvious's cat, which we talked about yesterday, we
(32:54):
stayed on the roster side because we'd been doing the coaching.
Inevitability of Tibbs even with that extension, so he goes
into the Business Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But all of that to.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Say, it's it's you'll get over it. Why because you
need to claw back against the Dodgers. You have more
pressing issues now. You have to try to spoil Kershaw day.
You can't worry about what what the uh the Pacers
did to your Nicks anymore. Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well, unfortunately this is a story. I mean, it's not
only so much I can do this.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I'm saying for your own personal psychology of this that
you have to I mean, you have to let it go.
You were ready for Kenny Atkinson to be hired away
from Cleveland or or whatever might happen, right, I mean,
it's it's inevitable. Maybe maybe it is Doc Rivers, maybe
it's Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Maybe it's your guy Danny Hurley, because I know you
lit candles. You went down and found a bodega that
had Danny Hurley votive candles and lit those all across
your your little, uh you know room with with Nick's rebelia,
I have no doubt.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
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Speaker 3 (34:09):
Coming up next, we got the play of the day.
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Mike Harmon. True we have a quarterback controversy that we
didn't knows one until today coming up in a minute,
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Who oh sure be attend Ben Andtende's he's in the
middle of everything.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh oh sorry, well what.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Was What was funny is there's a bit of excitement
and he actually had to call a play because the
overwhelming criticism after they got throttled by the Tigers yesterday
was he was just silent, sullen and saltya and soft.
Uh so it was the eight second sign off. Yeah,
let's send it to Chuck and Ozzy to break it down.
(37:02):
It's like, Wow, that's the quickest anybody's ever gotten out
of a booth in the history of man. But yeah,
eight one win, White sock gratulation. I mean, this is
the biggest highlight of the year for you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Like if it's NFL, if they were doing NFL yearbook
for the White Sox, it would start with this game
best team in baseball, Detroit Tiger's best record, and.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Show you beating them.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Hey, all right, Unfortunately all year was not this way
for the White Sox, but they are taking flight.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
That would be your NFL films.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Come on, Michael Taylor, who they gave a contract after
he hit him buck ninety.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Three for Pittsburgh last year with a big day to day. Yeah,
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now, speaking of the NFL, you didn't think the Seahawks
would have some kind of quarterback controversy, but apparently they
do so. Head coach Mike McDonald was on Seattle Sports
seven to ten am earlier today and was asked if
anything other than an injury between now and the start
of the season could lead the Seahawks to go with
another quarterback instead of Sam Darnold, who they just gave
(38:00):
three years and one hundred and ten million dollars too.
H McDonald said, no, you guys are crazy. It's just
not gonna happen. I respect. You got to ask the question.
Sam is our starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
We love him. He's doing a tremendous job.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Ah, Yes, and no, he's not looked great so far,
up and down in OTAs making some good plays. Other
times he is struggling. But of course he's gonna be
the starting quarterback, right. They gave the guy three years
and one hundred and ten million dollars. Of course he's
gonna start.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
The big thing to understand out of this and this
is what you know. This is what comes up with
the the the perils of signing a guy who puts
one big year together in his fourth system and plays well.
Sam Darnald is not a good quarterback. Sam Darnald is
a good quarterback in the right system. And you can
(38:49):
sit here and say, well, we projected he'll do Okay,
He's not throwing up to Justin Jefferson anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yes, Jackson Smith, the jigba is really good.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean, the Seahawks have talent, but this is
not the up and down the field offense where he
fit last year with Minnesota, and to think that, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Could do it. Remember, he's not a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
He's good in the right system, and so far there's
been one system of all the teams he's been on
that he's been good for.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
So yeah, this is why I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
A little suspicious and a little apprehensive to say, all
of a sudden, Sam Donald's great. You know the Ota stories.
I remember these Ota stories from the Jets. Boy, Sam
Donald made a couple of good throws here with point
OTAs he struggled. Remember, he's only good in the right
He's not a quarterback that's good anywhere. He's not a
good quarterback that if you take him out of a
team and bring him somewhere else, he signs for a
lot of money. Hey, he's a good quarterback. He is
(39:38):
good in the right system, and the jury is out
if this is the right system for him in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Well, I mean, remember when they go back to twenty
twelve where we had Matt Flynn signed him too, a
big deal, and then all of a sudden, Russell Wilson
was the guy.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
So I mean, it can't happen.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
History can repeat itself, and Sam Donald I really thought,
there's this is going to be a dating thing, because
it didn't when there was something that started circulating about
celebrities or whatever, and then a bunch of articles about
the woman he is currently in a relationship with. So
you always had that circling in the background. Uh, for
all all of that, but for for Seattle. Yeah, this
(40:16):
is not the controversy you want. I get it. It
gives us some headlines for for you and I to
talk about them in Seattle. It's like, we spent this
money on a quarterback to come in and you've got
a pretty good system, right, you got a pretty good
roster division that's going to be hell to get through,
there's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Oh and you traded away a big piece of what
your offense was. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
No, not that that's a you know, something to to
really lament at this stage.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I mean, really, he's one for five and that that's
what it is. And if it's a that's why it's
a huge gamble for Sam Dart. Look, I get why
they did what they did. They wanted to move on
Geno Smith only got him so far. But man, you
gotta remember that's what reminds you. This is a huge risk.
It's an absolutely huge risk going on in Seattle, and
all of a sudden now you got people say, Hey,
could he not be the quarterback at beginning of the season.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
That's insane. Well, but it's good to have these things
to fester and give us stuff to talk about. Where
does he rank in fantasy purposes? How up?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Next we get back to the biggest story of the day,
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Oh, I remember a month ago when we predicted it
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Oh, tips, you had a job at this time yesterday.
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Tip.
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Maybe if you had unfolded your arms.
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More you had a job.
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Tip, maybe you.
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Would want something else in the black wardrobe you would
haven't jumped. Or maybe if you would just bleep in
one game one against the Pacers, you ohnah made. I'm
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Well, yes, you thought, what kind of basketball headlines are
we gonna have to get us the game one of
the NBA Finals entear the Knicks and Tom Thimbodeau fired
after the best run in the last twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Losing in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Now, let me just say what Mike Harmon alluded to
a few moments ago. Okay, I am not surprised. We
talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I am
not surprised. Right, There's lots of different things. But the
first thing I will tell you is this, Right before
you want to dive into the roster and defense and
Karl Anthony Towns, before you want to dive into this
(02:27):
and Who's next and all the stuff, all the 'ren
our testa metal world pieces. I want to be that
I'm ready for the smoke, right, what a campaign, dude.
I'll tell you the most fun Well, the most fun
thing today was watching the Rockies win a series. The
second most fun thing today was watching the number of
people who trended because fans were saying, what if this
guy was the knicks next head coach? Right, here's met
(02:49):
a world peace, here's Rick Patino.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Come on, what you do do it?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Doc Rivers is out there?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Don't don't you sold me? Don't you say that?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Come on, man, that.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
That would be the greatest thing for the man for
the furthering of the show during the long arduous run
that is the NBA regular season, to be able to
chronicle that on a day to day basis and mine,
come on, I.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Know you and I are at Odds Frostburg with the
Mets Dodgers coming up in a few minutes. Yes, that's
over the line, man that I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers
on you. I wouldn't risk Doc Rivers on anybody. I'm
pretty I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers on the White Sox.
That's how much I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers on anybody.
You know what, He might actually eke out it.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Although Venable is doing a pretty good job with a
bad roster, and they at least come out and fight
these days.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But's fault's fault.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's all his fun. Bring the hometown kid, Doc Rivers home.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Before you get to everything, there is a really there's
a really easy way that I think people are just
blowing past. Which is what And you know why the
Knicks fired TIBs today after their greatest season in twenty
five years. Think for a second, right outside, you know,
big NBA fans, we all watch Eastern Conference Finals. Yes,
the Knicks lost, it was really difficult. Their flaws were
(04:16):
all exposed. But just think about being around the Knicks
for the last couple of days with this right, the
Knicks lose and it is heartbreaking. And not only that
they are not over a Game one that is going
down in the annals of NBA history as the biggest
blown loss in the history of the game. I can't
(04:37):
overstate that enough. The Knicks lost Game one, blowing a
lead in the final minute that nobody in the history
of the game is blown. Right, we went back and
looked the record fourteen hundred and fourteen wins and no
losses and when the NBA was taken keeping track of
this right from the mid nineties, right fourteen fourteen to
zero with a nine point lead and fifty seconds left
(04:58):
to go on regulation, and you know what, you know
a team has never blown a lead like that even
before that, because teams didn't hit threes for the for
the early part of the nineties and the eighties, they
didn't take that many shots. Before that, there was no
three point shot. So I guarantee you nobody in the
one hundred some odd years since since Nasmith said, hey,
cut the holes out of the peach bask easy to
get the basketball back. So if that's no one has
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blown a lead this decade. So yeah, this is an
all time worst loss in the NBA. This is a
loss that stays with the team and franchise forever. It's
Reggie Miller on steroids because this was Hey, at least
the Knicks won that series at Reggie Miller made the
choke sign. This was blowing Game one watching Halliburton's miracle
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shot fall doing the choke sign. It is an all
time embarrassing Game one and series loss for the Knicks.
You're naive if you think a team can just sit
there and say, well, we'll get him next year. We
didn't have as good a roster. The Pacers were a
better team. No, some losses you can't come back from
because they're just that bad.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Not all losses are created equal. Some losses are worse
than others.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Some losses make the worst losses look like a kid
given out candy. This was one of those Game one
We've never seen it before, a team has never had
that happen. When something like that happens, you can't just
bring the guys back next year. You can't just say, okay,
roll it back, we'll make some There needs to be repercussions.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
There needs to be fall up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
We told you after Game one if they lose this series,
the guys are gonna look at is gonna be TIBs
and Karl Anthony Towns?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And who are the guys? Tibbs and Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
All the Karl Anthony Towns criticism the last few days,
and now Tibbs gets fired today. Sometimes a loss is
just so bad you can't bring TIBs back because he's
a memory and a reminder, an every day walking institution
of we blew that lead against the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
We're gonna blow it again. You're gonna see this in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Every time a team is up nine with a minute
left to go, Reggie Miller is gonna say, remember the
Pacers next in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Reggie Miller's going.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
To be ninety eight years old at like thirty years
from now, and it's gonna be saying, remember.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
When the Pacers did it back in twenty five with
Hella Burton.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That's exactly how it's gonna go. You can't bring them back.
That's why I'm not surprised at all. The Tims got
fired because this loss and then the series loss was
just so bad you have to start anew You have
to start and say, Okay, we gotta move away from
this because this is just gonna hang over the franchise.
I mean it's gonna hang over the franchise enough already,
but bringing back the same cast of characters, it's like
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a cloud, like the cloud that follows pig Pen, you know,
the in the Peanuts. Like that's what's gonna happen. And
that's why the Knicks had no choice, and I understand it.
I'm not surprised with the fire and Tims because some
losses are just so bad you have to move on
and start new, and this is one of those losses.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I like that you said, and the peanuts kind of
like you were going, it's not said, not just peanuts,
the peanuts.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Look, it's it's the thing we've.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Talked about for a month is that you had eighty
two games to try to what else was on the
roster instead of grinding out win in game fifty five, right,
fifty seven whatever. Middle of the season, Hey, you play
forty two. Well, at no point did you develop continuity.
And we saw it exacerbated when Brunson had to leave
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a game for a short period.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
With an injury.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
It was like, they look absolutely lost, right. You had
several turnovers in a row, a couple of shot clock violations,
a lot of pointing as if it was the Spider
Man meme come to life. No continuity there, And so
when all of a sudden you get to the playoffs
and it's like, all right, we need some depth. Cat
picked up his requisite too, silly fouls early, so we
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need to go to the bench. Oh wait, now we
can't use him because he can't play defense and he's
in foul trouble. All of those things to say, it's
an imperfectly structured roster, and we've been clear about that
talking about that the whole season for those that live
and die by Jason's Knicks fandom and Mets fandom, but
(09:05):
Nicks fandom, We appreciate you being part of the show.
That means you listen a lot if you get triggered
by it, So thank you. Just stay with us because
it's gonna it's gonna be a wild off season. But
for this move, you say, hey, congratulations on a job done.
Here's a giant pile of money to go out the door,
and you try to figure out what's next. The roster
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is gonna go through an overhaul, and Rose is certainly
on the under the microscope here as to what kind
of depth and where we're looking at for the NBA
and things changing with these two teams that'll square off
starting Thursday, when you're running ten sometimes eleven deep right
and fast break points and ability to get out of
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that versus all right, slow the ball down and take
nothing from brunts, and you can decide whether you want
them on your top five in the game today. Jason
put that poll question out on air last week. But
it's just that idea of all right, how do you
restructure this and what's the direction going forward? And with
Thibodeau as the face, the gruff, non responsive in many
(10:11):
ways coach of this squad in New York. That's just
not gonna stand right. The expectation really went through the
roof after beating the hated Celtics, and that game one
loss will forever stain whatever legacy. Now Cat got him
fired twice so that we should remember that. It's like
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this guy again, all right, and you know all all
the things we've talked about. You know, you can only
hide him so long, and defensively, that was the reason
he didn't fit with what Minnesota was trying to do.
And you thought you'd be able to piece it together.
But again, if you're only gonna run six seven deep
and you don't have big men on the bench to
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spell adequately, and you can only cover up defensive lacking
uh issues by Brunson and Cat so long before you're exposed.
And Indiana did it. So now it's to the next
iteration of the Knicks. And it was fun watching all
the names. As you said, the bell odds great, The
betting odds had I think thirty five guys on it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, freight, where we're done? Where was Stephen A? Smith.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Where where was he was he in the take no
hold on a second, Let.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Me way behind Doc Rivers?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh he is no, but look, but just think about
it because normally we see it with players. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Usually when when a manager oversees a collapse and a
team loses, it's a we collapsed over the course.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Of the end of the regular season.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We collapsed in the playoffs, and that's why coaches get fired.
This is a one series thing, but it had We've
seen it. Sometimes you don't realize you see it, but
you do. I'll go back to last year in Major
League Baseball, right, so let's me bring up pe A
Lonzo's home run. Devin Williams one of the best closers
of Major League baseball, right.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
One of the best.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Now, he's hurt a little bit last year, but guy,
give up one home run all season. He is as
lights out a closer as there was. Right, fastball, change up,
that's all you needed, right, That's all Marianna Rivera needed.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But he gives up the big.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Home run to Alonso and the ninth inning of a game,
the Brewers had a two to nothing lead and they
were moving on to the NLDS, and they gave up
four runs in the inning and they lost.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Sometimes a loss is.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So bad you couldn't bring him back, Right, You couldn't
bring Devin Williams back.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You couldn't bring the You couldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Bring the guy back, because it's just the loss against
the Mets would hang over. You don't know, is he's
still gonna be the same guy. He's gonna be thinking
about that loss. It's a daily reminder of the home
run because that home run was such a big deal.
It wasn't just hey, he gave up a home run.
They lost a game. This was ninth inning. Man, come in,
shut the door. It's a two run lead. It was
so bad the Brewers had to move on from him.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's not like he wanted up a big contract. It's
not like there was a.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Situation where he's gonna hit free agency or where the
Brewers knew we can't go, we can't move on with him,
and we have to deal him.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So they traded him to the Yankees. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I mean, that's really why it happens with players. Mostly
guys at miss field goals, Guys that give up big
home runs, got guys that that that melt down in
a pitching situation, right when when you Darvish couldn't come
back to the Dodgers after that big World Series melt
down when alleged he was tipping pitches like that's it, Like,
you can't come back after this. Usually it's players, but
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this was such a big deal and and you know
where are you gonna go? You can't bring the head
coach back because that's too much a reminder of how
bad things were. And you just need a fresh start,
no matter who it is. You'd a fresh start with
this team and go forward because it's young, you're building.
And again that's why I'm not surprised at all that
this happened.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
It's just the negative part of being the face of
the franchise. They become the face of the franchise, futility
at fifty two years the foff as it.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Were, Jason all that said, he got fired because the
nick sucked.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They stop that.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We were there were three teams left and we were
one of them. We were in the final three.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
We're going to the finals, and we told you no, no, no,
you got to you're not getting past the pacers.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
All right, righty, stephen A is sixty to one sixty
to one.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Doc Rivers, Really, he's not on.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
The short list. I'm looking at here. I got Johnny
Bright from.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
She's not a favorite new List.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Wait, Stephen A. Smith has shorter odds than Doc Rivers.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
No, at least from Bovada what they had put up earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Then.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Well, I mean they also had Patrick Ewing at plus
nine point fifty with Sam Cassel and Mike Budenolzer.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Oh wow, okay, all right, all right, Mark Jackson at
fourteen to one.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Okay, Jeff Van Gundy return at twenty five to one.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Stephen, what do you think of the what do you
think of the nixt performance tonight? You know, they're they're
three and one, their first loss.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Of the season. It was appalling. It was atrocious. It
was depressing. It was disgusting, distressing. It was frightful. It
was ghastly.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It was horrifying.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It was shocking. It was ugly. It was unpleasant. It
was abominable. It was repulsive. It was on sited, it
was grungy, it was deplorable like that.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean, I want to see that, just to see
the postgame Prescott.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I think that's also how he described the press release
in which they announced this instead of having the guts
to do it personally.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So I'm telling you reason number one. That's why. Sometimes
there's sauces you just can't come.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Back from.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
If you're ready.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know what, at the Crossburg your Lakers were watching
the playoffs for like a month on Magic Johnson's yacht
before the Knicks got eliminade.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Sometimes we got to take a year off.
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story of the day and an NFL trade that was on,
it was off and now it could be on again.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
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more on TIBs getting fired by the Knicks, because hey,
(16:33):
you needed a basketball Jones to get you to Game
one of the Finals, We got it.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
We got tips out. He had a good run.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, and listen, just think when it's a when it's
when it's a four game suite by the thunder, what
we're gonna be talking about. Who the Knicks head coach
is gonna be. It's gonna be, it's gonna be stretch
into the office. Stop saying Doc River America.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Let's get doc trending.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Stop saying Doc stop with it. No, no, no, we
don't need that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Man.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I'm Madison Square Garden, hashtag, Alonso RBI single, Hashtago, Tani
strikeout looking Hell, let's hashtag all those things.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Because all those things just don't have a kid he
can put on the sideline that would be ready to
coach Wow, Now that that's next level right there.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Call her buddy Evan Rosenbloom at TMZ and see if
you come up with something there that's outstanding.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, I got more six guys he can he
can send up there, which.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Which of the sun gets the role and we'll have
more than the tib story coming up in a few minutes.
But you know, this is one thing where you know,
you know, we're in the point of the calendar where
we're waiting for football, right like like here I get
you know, the NBA Finals are coming. Tims gets fired.
You know, Baseball is is you know, we've we hit
the first third mark of the season and we're getting on.
(17:49):
We're seeing how many games the Rockies, Well, congratulations, Rockies
won a serious night. Yeah, but we're in that part
where we're waiting for football, right, We're waiting for football
or waiting for training camp. You know, it's it's beginning
of June and it's okay, how much longer you know
the players are off, but all right, they're gonna be
here soon and we're gonna be able to pick. We're
waiting for football, which means this John hu Smith story
(18:10):
is way too overcovered. And but it makes up for
being overcovered by being stupid, So there's that as well.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well. I don't think it's so.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't think it's overcovered.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Though, because it really does.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
U You got two franchises, one that is being held
hostage for that other story that's still lingering, right, I
mean because because look, if we don't have John hus
Smith and you want to talk football, what we got
Deon Sanders was a gift yesterday, right, and then otherwise
it's hey, Aaron Rodgers, did he h lick.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
His finger and hold it up to see which way
the wind was blowing. I mean, that's it. That's all
we got right now.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
But the John new Smith is like, wait, are the
Dolphins like giving up?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And he's taking it's overcovered and it's over stupid. It's
both of those things, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I like over stupid. We're gonna pat in that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Last week we.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Had the story that you know, here's big NFL trade
that could becoming that John Whusmith, one of the best
tight ends in the NFL, coming up for a contract extension.
Dolphins potentially don't want to pay it, so they were
talking trade with the Steelers. This makes no sense. We
talked about it at the time. Why because the Dolphins
don't have another tight end on the roster catch balls.
You're gonna say goodbye to a guy called eighty eight
passes last year.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, you're tanking.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This would be stupid for you to do unless you're
tanking for the Steelers. You still don't have a quarterback man.
You're talking about trading for John Newsmith and giving him money.
You're have anybody to throw the football because you're waiting
to see if Aaron Rodgers wants to come play for you.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Well, was this a move for Mason Rudolph?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
We get we get the duel tight end between him
and friar Mouth. You only have to complete a ball
between five and ten yards.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I mean, come on it, it might actually be genius.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
They called Mason Rudolphin and said, hey, Mason, what do
you need to succeed this year?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I need another tight end?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Right, So you already have Friarmuth, who is pretty good. No,
we're adding John hus Smith right, and you don't have
a quot So this is stupid. Okay, then, okay, we
get the story earlier today Adam Schefter report the deal
is off. Deal is off. John new Smith is not
getting del that's not gonna happen. We're not gonna have
John new Smith going to the Steelers. Okay, the trade
is off, all right, great, and then a few hours later,
(20:11):
oh no, the trade is back on. Okay, now can
we stop with the stupid because now we're back to
the story from last week where it's just stupid. Because now, okay,
now we're back to like each each side realized, okay,
this is kind of stupid, and you know, we don't
want to be seen as tanking. We don't want this
to happen. Let's call this off. No, no, no, no, let's go
back and now let's do it. So now the trade
is back on again, and they could be in there.
(20:31):
It's back on in which they're talking about it, not
back on in which they've made the trade.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So we can go.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Back to our take of last week that this is
stupid because the Dolphins are only doing this, that their
tanking and the Steelers are doing it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Who knows why.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I don't know why. We don't have a quarterback. But
now let's get another tight end. Is that gonna work
with Aaron Rodgers? Does Aaron Rodgers never really threw the
ball to one tight end. Let let alone, he's gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It to two guys? Come on, man, what is what
is happening? Being?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Teams have lost their minds. That's why this entire.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Story it was stupid then, ok, clear has prevailed.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Now it's stupid again.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, looking at it from the Dolphins side, because they've
got so much swirling. Right, you had the season with
Tua tonguea Bai Looa missed some games, but all in all,
you know he's ready to roll. You've got tyreek Hill
who's been on a pr Let's clean up a bunch
of mess in the background. Here is Hey, I'm happy
to be here. But is he a post June first?
(21:25):
Right now we're June third? Is he gonna get dealt? Right?
There's been a lot of talk about that. And Jalen
Wattle disappeared a year ago, right, his numbers were down.
So is the the bloom come off the rose? That
was Mike McDaniel, Right, he was supposed to revolutionize thing.
He was the super genius. He stakes and that's with
a top five running back in a chan Right. So,
(21:48):
so you've got a passing game that isn't working.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You're not setting the league up fire.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You're getting passed by the Patriots and their rebuild and
whatever Vrabel's able to do. And the Jets might have
more explosive plays in their offense with Justin Fields under
center than what you've been building for several years. So yeah,
let's trade an All Pro guy who caught eighty eight
balls and kept the chains moving to at least give
(22:14):
you a puncher's chance at a bunch of games.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So none of it, none of it makes sense. None
of this makes sense now unless, hey, you're tanking. If
you're the Dolphins, which, wow, man, a year ago they
were the up and coming. I still can't get over
the fact that they were so a year ago. Now
is watch out for the Dolphins. Their speed, they're revolutionized
in the NFL. And now maybe they're tanking. Maybe maybe
they're gonna wind up tanking, and the Steelers just continue
(22:38):
to prove that, Look, we really don't know what we're doing.
We just come to work every day and just you know,
who knows, We don't know. We whatever decide, whoever we
decide that sounds good to us, We're gonna do whether
or not it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
For the team or not.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, as long as you need to do without a quarterback,
it's absolutely fine.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Do you think instead of the sign like the at
Notre Dame where it's just play like a champion today
that everybody has to slap out, it's like we're not
having a losing season and you slap that on your
way through the door to go decide how you're building
your roster.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, they just go five hundred, five hundred is our chat.
Like every push up they finish every eight.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm willing to give. I'm willing to get benefit that
they go nine and eighty.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They go, okay, nine and eight, nine and eight, nine
and eight, I'm willing to say that they'll go that far.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's just amazing though, right, and we see all sorts
of ridiculous trade trade offers and rumors and things out there,
and it's trying to go through and parse through the noise,
and usually it's pretty obvious when it's bogus. This one
has been reported very widely, and you've got two franchises
(23:44):
that seemingly are in no man's land, like the Rogers thing.
I think there's a handshake deal and eventually we get
to that point, and now it's just everybody's being held
hostage in the news cycles. Uh. And it gives us
one thing that is a consistent thread, waiting on OTAs
into training camp, which is still along seven eight weeks away.
(24:07):
But this for the Dolphins, it really makes no sense
in any way, shape or form. You're what you're tanking
to get into the quarterbacks who mayor and may not
be any good Arch Manning, have we seen enough? Yeah,
he runs fast. That's the highest compliment you can throw him.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
He's faster than the other Mannings. I don't I don't
think that's the cell point for Hey, let's tank right.
Every other quarterback has a giant question mark and.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
We're like, all right, we're gonna pop them up because
you know they may get there, but none of them
have the requisite starts. Right, we always talk twenty five
thirty be in the benchmark. They all still have a
lot of prove it. Arch Manning is the king of.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That great pedigree, great program.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Historically, it would say that he doesn't actually come out
even if he has a great season based on the
family's track record. Oh yeah, right, So I mean like
you may be raising and it's like, oh, we're number one.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It's like, yeah, he's decided to go back to school.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Not damn it all the hell, especially especially coming out
of that Cooper Flag report that he reported he reportedly
made twenty eight to thirty million dollars. You're telling me
Arch isn't creeping up towards that money at Texas.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh, of course he is.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Of course he is good.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So you know the wait, I can stand another year
and do that when the rookie wage scale has dictated
by the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
What I stay here another year? I'm better off.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studio again, none of it. But if
you're tanking Dolphins, congratulations. We'll have more on Tom Thibodeau
coming up in a couple of seconds, but right now,
time to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports. But guy who's been called the TIBs of
Fox Sports Radio because he's not working tomorrow either, it's
deep to.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Say they call me mister tubbs. After five years in
New York, the Knicks fired their head coach Tom Thibodeau today.
Last summer, he signed a three year contract extension through
twenty twenty eight. New York's had back to back fifty
win seasons for the first time since nineteen ninety five,
and the Nicks just made the East Finals. Indiana's in
(26:16):
the NBA Finals starting Thursday at Oklahoma City, and.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Then Game two of the series will be Sunday.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Indiana, by the Way in the finals for the first
time since two thousand. Guard Tyrese Haliburton was born in
two thousand three. WNBA games tonight eight and oh Minnesota
won again, beating Phoenix eighty eight sixty five. Indiana with
a home win over Washington eighty five seventy six. Caitlin
Clark still out with the string quad. The late game
has Dallas at one in six, leading at Seattle thirty
(26:44):
eight to thirty at the half. The Stanley Cup Final
starts Wednesday, Florida at Edmonton. The NHL Awards by the
Way will be held just before game four of the series.
US women's soccer has won four nothing tonight over Jamaica
at an exhibition in Saint Louis. Number two seed Carlos
Alcarez won his quarterfinal let the French Open, beating American
Tommy Paul in straight sets for Vikings defensive end Jim
(27:07):
Marshall died at the age of eighty seven. He played
two hundred and seventy straight games with Minnesota through nineteen
seventy nine. As for the games in progress in the
Major leagues, the Royals lead ten to seven at Saint
Louis in the bottom of the eighth. Mariners and Orioles
tied one to one bottom of the third. Houston is
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even with Seattle for the moment in the Al West standings.
Houston has won three nothing at Pittsburgh, beating Paul Skeins,
who had eight strikeouts in eight innings. But Skeens is
four and six despite lowering his ERA to two point
h five.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
The Astros must have cheated Stephen.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
The Giants are up two to nothing on the Padres
in the top of the fourth. A's out to an
early one nothing lead on the Twins bottom of the second.
The A's have lost eighteen of nineteen. Yay, but Colorado
won on the road again. You know, before last night
they were three and twenty eight in the road games
this year. They've won two straight at Miami, three to two.
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Tonight's final Rockies had ended in eight game losing streak.
Last night, Cubs won eight three at Washington. Cincinnati over
Milwaukee four to two. That ends the Brewers' eight game
winning streak. As Red center fielder TJ. Friedel robbed a
two run homer, catching the final out. The Yankees held
on three to two over Cleveland. The save to Devin Williams,
although he allowed to run in the ninth. Yankee closer
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Luke Weavers on the injured list with a strain hamstring.
Bryce Harper of the Phillies returned after the Bruce delbo
and Tonight homered in the first. In fact, Philadelphia scored
six times in the top of the first and won
at Toronto eight three. That ends the Blue Jays five
game winning streak. Arizona and Tampa Bay each one. Angels
won in ten at Boston four to three. The White
Sox beat Detroit eight to one. The White Sox won
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nothing in the six and beat a Tigers team that
entered with a record of forty and twenty one while
the White Sox were just eighteen and forty two. And
we can update the game at Dodger Stadium first and left.
This this is actual news. The Dodgers canceled batting practice
because of pregame.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Rain, no rain this evening.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well, now they're having batting practice in the first inning.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
And for Mets, the Tyler McGill show. Well, he's allowed
four runs in the first inning. And yeah there was
the early home run, the early run scored I should say,
by New York the Lonzo RBI singles set up by
Clayton Kershaw, wild pitch. But it's now Dodgers for one
over the Mets. In the bottom of the first, Max
Munsey with a two run homer, his eighth of the year.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Back to you, gee, thanks Steve, I appreciate that. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So remember it's ty lore.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Right, because it's Tyler, but every time I see his
name and.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
And then the other McGill is actually better. So you know,
we got the two McGill brothers.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
We have the one, and this first inning is going
down in some lore.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yes, yes, nicely guns well played.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So look, we talked about the big reason why Tibbs
got fired by the Knicks, because so stop with that
their better stop stop you upset the Laker fan.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Just stop.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
It has nothing to do with the Lakers. The Knicks.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
We were in the Eastern Conference finals. Man, it's not
like sixties.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I thought you were beating the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Dude, we were, Dude.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
You couldn't beat any but you couldn't get out of
the first round against a guy who shows up when.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
He feels with dude.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. No, it's like, dude,
I want you to be serious. Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You okay?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Broh was this guy?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Brob's gonna keep Bascal siakaming?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
You?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You okay?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Bro? You you cool?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You're good? Bro.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
You guys got TIBs fired. The only well it look
five bombs in the bench.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
This is the only part of this that I'm upset
about today, because again I told you I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm not up.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Look, the Knicks need a clean start because of this
loss was just so bad. I'm okay with the new direction,
and it's fine. Here's the only I hate Tibbs getting
fired because it gives the bleeping Pacers another w right,
because it was not only did we beat the Knicks,
not only did we win against our all time rival,
not only do we win in a way which embarrasses them.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
We got through the joke sign again.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Now Halliburton and Reggie Miller can sign pictures together a
card shows for the next thirty years and make money.
We'll split this money. No, no, now it's oh, we
got TIBs fired. Like it's another win for the Pacers
who win, and they win without class and all, and
they're moving on and now they're just saying, oh, yeah,
look now we got TIBs fired and they're laughing going
(31:36):
into the NBA Finals. That's the only thing I'm upset
about is that it gives the Pacers another w.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Because they got TIBs fired. Well, but it was inevitable, right,
It's the Fano snap.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
And I guess if you can trade on this, look,
if they go out and get absolutely curb stumped by OKC,
it has its weight to a point, right, because the
sting of getting absolutely dominated by SGA and the greatness
that is the combination of Chet and lou Dort will
(32:10):
will send them into oblivion. So the short lived successes
of vanquishing the Knicks, it's not really gonna stay. Now
we see them in the playoffs matched up again next year.
Sure there's a lot of run and you'll get some
good b roll of TIBs with his arms folded ahead
of Game one and the crowd hight video. There's no
(32:31):
question about that. A distraught Chalamet or Spike Lee or
whatever else they do with his little train conductor hat on,
all of those things will be there. But you can't
live there like this is where you knew it was
gonna happen. The Knicks fan base was calling for change,
and the obvious's cat, which we talked about yesterday, we
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stayed on the roster side because we'd been doing the coaching.
Inevitability of Tibbs even with that extension, so he goes
into the Business Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But all of that to.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Say, it's it's you'll get over it. Why because you
need to claw back against the Dodgers. You have more
pressing issues now. You have to try to spoil Kershaw day.
You can't worry about what what the uh the Pacers
did to your Nicks anymore. Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well, unfortunately this is a story. I mean, it's not
only so much I can do this.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I'm saying for your own personal psychology of this that
you have to I mean, you have to let it go.
You were ready for Kenny Atkinson to be hired away
from Cleveland or or whatever might happen, right, I mean,
it's it's inevitable. Maybe maybe it is Doc Rivers, maybe
it's Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Maybe it's your guy Danny Hurley, because I know you
lit candles. You went down and found a bodega that
had Danny Hurley votive candles and lit those all across
your your little, uh you know room with with Nick's rebelia,
I have no doubt.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Coming up next, we got the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I didn't think you could have a quarterback controversy
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But maybe that's going on in one NFL city. That's
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Speaker 1 (35:20):
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didn't knows one until today coming up in a minute,
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the play of the day.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
This sort is smoke to left field and it's gonna
love off the world.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Vorgasito score, Ben attended a win was on he will
come across.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Slater drops in two with a double here in this
seventh then a Socks.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Take a six to one lead.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Be honest TV.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Who oh sure be attend Ben Andtende's he's in the
middle of everything.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh oh sorry, well what.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Was What was funny is there's a bit of excitement
and he actually had to call a play because the
overwhelming criticism after they got throttled by the Tigers yesterday
was he was just silent, sullen and saltya and soft.
Uh so it was the eight second sign off. Yeah,
let's send it to Chuck and Ozzy to break it down.
(37:02):
It's like, Wow, that's the quickest anybody's ever gotten out
of a booth in the history of man. But yeah,
eight one win, White sock gratulation. I mean, this is
the biggest highlight of the year for you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Like if it's NFL, if they were doing NFL yearbook
for the White Sox, it would start with this game
best team in baseball, Detroit Tiger's best record, and.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Show you beating them.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Hey, all right, Unfortunately all year was not this way
for the White Sox, but they are taking flight.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
That would be your NFL films.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Come on, Michael Taylor, who they gave a contract after
he hit him buck ninety.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Three for Pittsburgh last year with a big day to day. Yeah,
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now, speaking of the NFL, you didn't think the Seahawks
would have some kind of quarterback controversy, but apparently they
do so. Head coach Mike McDonald was on Seattle Sports
seven to ten am earlier today and was asked if
anything other than an injury between now and the start
of the season could lead the Seahawks to go with
another quarterback instead of Sam Darnold, who they just gave
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three years and one hundred and ten million dollars too.
H McDonald said, no, you guys are crazy. It's just
not gonna happen. I respect. You got to ask the question.
Sam is our starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
We love him. He's doing a tremendous job.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Ah, Yes, and no, he's not looked great so far,
up and down in OTAs making some good plays. Other
times he is struggling. But of course he's gonna be
the starting quarterback, right. They gave the guy three years
and one hundred and ten million dollars. Of course he's
gonna start.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
The big thing to understand out of this and this
is what you know. This is what comes up with
the the the perils of signing a guy who puts
one big year together in his fourth system and plays well.
Sam Darnald is not a good quarterback. Sam Darnald is
a good quarterback in the right system. And you can
(38:49):
sit here and say, well, we projected he'll do Okay,
He's not throwing up to Justin Jefferson anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yes, Jackson Smith, the jigba is really good.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean, the Seahawks have talent, but this is
not the up and down the field offense where he
fit last year with Minnesota, and to think that, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Could do it. Remember, he's not a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
He's good in the right system, and so far there's
been one system of all the teams he's been on
that he's been good for.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
So yeah, this is why I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
A little suspicious and a little apprehensive to say, all
of a sudden, Sam Donald's great. You know the Ota stories.
I remember these Ota stories from the Jets. Boy, Sam
Donald made a couple of good throws here with point
OTAs he struggled. Remember, he's only good in the right
He's not a quarterback that's good anywhere. He's not a
good quarterback that if you take him out of a
team and bring him somewhere else, he signs for a
lot of money. Hey, he's a good quarterback. He is
(39:38):
good in the right system, and the jury is out
if this is the right system for him in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Well, I mean, remember when they go back to twenty
twelve where we had Matt Flynn signed him too, a
big deal, and then all of a sudden, Russell Wilson
was the guy.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
So I mean, it can't happen.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
History can repeat itself, and Sam Donald I really thought,
there's this is going to be a dating thing, because
it didn't when there was something that started circulating about
celebrities or whatever, and then a bunch of articles about
the woman he is currently in a relationship with. So
you always had that circling in the background. Uh, for
all all of that, but for for Seattle. Yeah, this
(40:16):
is not the controversy you want. I get it. It
gives us some headlines for for you and I to
talk about them in Seattle. It's like, we spent this
money on a quarterback to come in and you've got
a pretty good system, right, you got a pretty good
roster division that's going to be hell to get through,
there's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Oh and you traded away a big piece of what
your offense was. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
No, not that that's a you know, something to to
really lament at this stage.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I mean, really, he's one for five and that that's
what it is. And if it's a that's why it's
a huge gamble for Sam Dart. Look, I get why
they did what they did. They wanted to move on
Geno Smith only got him so far. But man, you
gotta remember that's what reminds you. This is a huge risk.
It's an absolutely huge risk going on in Seattle, and
all of a sudden now you got people say, Hey,
could he not be the quarterback at beginning of the season.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
That's insane. Well, but it's good to have these things
to fester and give us stuff to talk about. Where
does he rank in fantasy purposes? How up?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Next we get back to the biggest story of the day,
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