June 20, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon and NBA Insider Ric Bucher react to Finals Game 6 and preview Finals Game 7.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hell aias Hello, Welcome in side our three The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Were Game
six of the NBA Finals goes to the Pacers one
O eight to ninety one, setting up a winner take
all Game seven.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
First game seven almost ten years.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Go back to that Cleveland Golden States Series, the Big
Block to lebron Chase down block. Last time we had
a Game seven. I got a cool card to that.
You want to buy it? How much? Six hundred psa ten?
How about I'll give you ten there, I've got like
three of the only like seven or eight that give back.
I'll give you ten bucks right now now, but right
(01:09):
now now, I'll get ten bucks right now now. You
sounded like me ten bucks cash, no checks right now
I'll give you cause you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You have it right now. I try no.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Joining us now on the Hotline to break down what
we saw, what we will see, what are we going
to see from the new look, new owned Lakers. Fox
Sports one NBA insider extraordinaire. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker.
Check out the On the Ball podcast, in which he
is breaking down all thirty seven of the knicks possibilities
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to be their new head coach.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I thought he was going to count the turnovers tonight.
It is Rick Buker. Rick, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Man? I have mixed ings, gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Okay, why are you mixed?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
For? So? Game seven? What's better than a game seven,
particularly in the finals with a title on the line.
There's nothing better than that, except except maybe playing in
a celebrity golf tournament in Houston, which is what I
was supposed to be doing Monday if this series got
over tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh no, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well, I gotta I gotta go to work. I won't
I won't play. I won't be playing golf. I'll be
I'll be in the LA studios doing my job first
thing in the morning. On Monday. Uh, talking about wherever
this goes in a game seven and at this point
with this series, who knows. I'm look sick with with Okay,
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you's gonna find a way to get it done at home.
But they they, they without question had the close out
jitters tonight in Indiana. As you know, I don't want
to take anything away from the Pacers, but this really
was Oklahoma City not playing their game whatsoever, which opened
the door for the Pacers to play theirs in a
way that they haven't been able to, uh the previous
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two game.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, here's the thing is, Rick is I had it
set after game two. I said, look, neither team is
going to impart their will on the other. They'll split
the next two games and it's going to go home,
home home. And there you went, And what happened? They
split the next two games home home. Yeah, I'm going
Pacers in game seven.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You you are what I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm going thundering games.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Win tonight, thundering game home home home five, six and seven,
thundering thundering game seven.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah. Okay, that's all of that makes makes sense. I'm
glad that I you know, and and the rest of
the world did not hear that, because it would have
taken all the suspense, Yeah, out of the previous the
previous two games. We all would have been well, Jason,
Chason knows what's going on, So what's the point of
even watching. We'll just wait until Sunday.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, right, I heard him. I will get off everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Everybody could have just played solitaire instead. It would have
been fine, everybody.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
We don't even really have to watch Sunday, do we No, you.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Don't know, you know, you know how it's going to
just play solitaire, the entire regular solitaire, spider, solitaire.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Ah, you do whatever you want. It's gonna be. I've
given everybody their weekend.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Back, Steve. And here's the thing. Here's the thing, Steven,
they would have been playing solitaire, regardless of whether he
knew the outcomings or not.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
That that is a fair point. All right.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
When did you think in the second quarter that they
just said, all right, wrap it up, let's just play
out the string today.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I don't I don't think it was. I really don't
think it was so much that. I mean, they did
make a run in the you know, toward the end
of the third quarter. I thought they, you know, when
they got it to eighteen, I thought, Okay, maybe maybe
Oklahoma City is going to find a little something. And
I felt like if they could have gotten this down
to single digits, the Pacers would have played a completely
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different way. It just you know, they got out in
front and then they could just play loose and play free.
And they are at their best when they when they
find that right that at the right tempo of playing
fast but not but not reckless. And it's a little
bit easier to do that when you're up by fifteen
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or twenty. You know, you have one turnover or you
have one missshot, you're not sweating it. And so that's
where Oklahoma City's inability to make this a close game
after the second quarter I think was really the difference.
And so we'll see. You know, look, there was what startled.
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It was just so startling is after watching Andrew Nemhart
and Tyre's Halliburton not even look to shoot for two games,
the idea that they would suddenly wake up and be
as aggressive as they were in this game was really
it was. It was stunning. I mean, Nemmark was the
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guy that I thought he was and disappeared for two games.
And suddenly he was. He was back to the guy
that that that I've always thought he could be. So,
you know, can they take that on the road? Can
they take that to Oklahoma City? Can they can they say, Hey,
look that we've given ourselves a chance. Is Oklahoma City
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going to how are they going to respond? I mean,
this is this is what makes this for all of
Jason's crystal ball ability is is that you have two
teams that have never been here before and there suddenly,
and they're young, relatively young teams faced with the prospect
of achieving the lifelong goal of a championship and being
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on that doorstep just does funny things to guys who
have never even been on that doorstep before, much less
got it done. So I will be I mean, I'm
I would expect that Oklahoma City is because because the
role players have played such a significant part in each
team's success, h and role players generally feel more comfortable
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with their crowd sharing them Lawn. I would think that
Oklahoma City is going to have the edge. But I
did not expect them to come out the way they
did tonight. They were a step glow. They were out
of sync. SGA was forcing the Ball. I just think
they told me they showed me so much poison maturity
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up to this point. Uh. This, this, this performance tonight
caught me a little lock guard.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
FS one's Rick Bucher, our guest Jason Smith, right, Mike Harmon,
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now you mentioned
Tyre's Halliburton. Now its beacause of being you know, Crystal
Ball I said this this week.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We were we were fed the injury overblown because somehow
the Pacers wanted to protect Halliburton from the awful game
that he had in Game five, and from that being
the story for the next three days. You know, we
know Haliburton listens to what is said about him. We
know that he does the chip on his shoulder thing,
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and it's one of the worst NBA Finals games a
star player has ever had. So the next day we
get oh yeah, yeah, Mri coming, oh yeah. If it
was a if it was a regular season, he'd be
out for two weeks. He played thirty four minutes in
Game five, second most on the team. He played tonight,
he looked absolutely fine. I feel like that was something
that was thrown out there just so Halliburton could escape
criticism for the next few days. We can get into
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game six with a more confident frame of mind.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I really think that I and it's a fair and
reasonable and rational thought. Somebody write that down. How many
times have I said that, what's the date? Time and date?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Time and date nine to ten Pacific just after midnight
East Coast time.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Let's put that one in the books. No, I'm I'm,
I'm with you for for all those for all those reasons,
and I I just that's the That's the difficult thing
with Tyree Halliburton is that we've seen him play as
the way that he did in game five. Now you know,
not that it's quite that bad, but close close in
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terms of just the lack of past or the amount
of passivity and so like I was looking at it thinking, look,
one thing is with Halliburton's game, I don't think unlike
a Jalen Brunson, for example, I don't think he plays
well when he's not one hundred percent. So I'll give
you that, maybe he tweaked the cast, maybe it's a
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it's a little tight, he's not feeling quite right. He
doesn't have a good game to adjust to that to
get to get to his spot. In other ways, he
just doesn't have the skills. But I also think that
tonight Nemhart took a lot of pressure off him in
that Halliburton could settle for shooting threes early on, and
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then once he hit a couple of those, they had
to come out and put a little more pressure on
him right from the start, and that gave him the
lanes to get into the paint, so he didn't he
didn't have to really have a burst to be able
to get there. I really, to me the difference maker.
You know, while while Haliburton, I mean Haliburton had an
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okay game and fourteen points, five assists, I mean, then
em Hart was was really the difference maker in with
his seventeen, with his shooting, with his aggression across the
board for assists, one turnover, seventeen points. It doesn't sound
like a ton but considering the last game he and
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Tyresee combined for eleven points, nine assists, and seven turnovers,
and there was about a sixty point difference between the
two backcourts. They they changed that dramatically in U in
this and I think that that now I just need
to see they can they take that on the road.
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Can they make that they can they travel with that
because because we didn't see that the previous two games,
and we certainly didn't see that in Oklahoma City the
last time we were there.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I just don't like anytime Nemhard gets some run because
Jason bristols, because he's still thinking back to last year, Rick,
So he's having flashbacks.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
As we sit here. All right, So let's get through the.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Other big story of the week, the Los Angeles Lakers
value of ten billion dollars, the sale, and now Walter
and his management company come in. Jeanie Bussel stay governor
for at least a short period of time. I would
love to have been able to sit in on that
family meeting for one thing, Rick, But the other is
all right, substantive change is short and long term.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
What are we anticipating, Well, I would expect with Walter's
pocket that. You know the thing when you whenever you
talk to anybody in the league about the Lakers, they
always talked about what a mom and pop organization it
is that they don't have. They don't have the staff
and the and everything that the top organizations have. And
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we think about the Lakers as being you know, one
of one of the prestige franchises, but they just didn't
have the buses, didn't have the money to compete with
the billionaires that now own teams that have you know,
discretionary funds beyond the teams. They've made their money elsewhere.
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The Bucks has made their money owning the Lakers, and
so Walter will give them the resources that they haven't had.
And that's where I think that Doctor Bucks would have been.
He would have approved of this because he didn't want
just want to own the Lakers. He wanted to own
the Lakers and make them a winning franchise, and financially
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his offspring just weren't in a place in today's in
today's NBA to be able to do that. So the
interesting part for me will be, so do we see
them expand all that they do and exactly how long
is team the head and running things because they have
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some I thought this was a dodge initially when it
was sold, I was like, you know what he's getting
out from under having to make a difficult pr decision
on lebron'says.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think I would be surprised Rick if this was
like a year like Jeanie would come do it, and
Mark Walter would come in and over the course of
the season, and at the end of the year, Okay,
now I'm stepping away and that's it, which would which
would coincide with the end of lebron era.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But I would be so proud.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh it's going to be for a while. It would
be for this year, and then very quietly she steps away.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well, yeah, And I don't know enough about Mark Walter
to know what you know.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Most, if most.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Owners, I would say, you're absolutely right. When they spend
this much money on a franchise, they don't want to
just own the toy. They want to be able to
play with it, and they want to make decisions in
terms of who is running it. You see that with
every single owner that steps in and buys a franchise.
But he's own pieces of a number of LA Sports
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franchises obviously, and I don't know how involved he has
been with them in the decision making or if he
saw his opportunity in terms of I've never been able
to really have a say in terms of how those
other organizations are run. I saw my opportunity to buy
a big enough chunk of the Lakers that I now
get to experience that, so that may be it. Until
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I know more about Mark Walter. I really can't tell
you how short that runway is going to be, but
it makes sense based on past owners. It would make
sense if it was simply a transitional position as opposed
to he's gonna be there two three years.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Check out the On the Ball podcast?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Rick?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
How many Knicks coaches potential? Did you interview on the
On the Ball podcast this week?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Well, I did a show with Paul Pierson just so
you know. He turned down the job as well.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh all right, wow really? Okay?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well yeah, because I mean he could walk. He could
walk to work in the city. In New York City,
you could walk to work. You kind of have to.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, I was, by the way, I just my Uber driver.
He also turned it down.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Okay, Oh good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Are you sure you can't do the TV show from
the Tea Box on Monday? Man?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
If I could, I would, trust me, I would, But no,
Unfortunately I am. I'm gonna have to miss it this year.
But uh, I'm already trying to figure out how I
can talk to Adam Silver to say, hey, can we
can we can we schedule the finals a little earlier
next time because I gotta I gotta golf. I gotta
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go golf.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You get said Smith in your stand pretends to swing
him now, and I got a golf in the morning.
I can't cover the game. I can't do that.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, no, just screw that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
No the game, Adam, that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I got how much use I have? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Take it easy, buddy, have a great weekend. We'll talk
to you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It goes Rit Bucher, great stuff on the NBA Finals,
well more in the NBA Finals, but coming up next.
Not every superstar in Indiana had a great night tonight.
Plus there is another superstar that a member of this
show can't stand, has hated for years. But I guarantee
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is gonna do a one to eighty on them after
we play what they said today.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I hate a lot of people. This can be anybody.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You wait, you wi oh years years somebody on the
show absolutely hated this superstar. But after what he said today,
oh no, oh, I love this guy. That's next right here,
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So lock it in and rip the knob off. So
not everybody connected to Indiana sports had a great night tonight,
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now I mean almost everybody did.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You had the Pacers pushing this to Game seven of
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
All right, great, huh, great night.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Greg McConnell's family all showing up in the post game
in yeah we.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Know, Dad, No whole family.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
We had the med at World Peace, had his whole
family there and this is this is my wife, this
mighty I'm Ron. But not a great night for Caitlyn Clark,
playing her first game since the big fouls from a
couple of nights ago with the Sun and Sophie Cunningham
playing protector and they played with out their coach. Yeah, absence,
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Hopefully everything's okay. Personal issue to attend to. I have
to think that that's something regarding Carol, like Carol loss,
like they've been together at something regarding her mom. That
was BET's been in the news the last couple of days.
So yes, the best thoughts of both of them.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
In tonight's game, Caitlyn Clark not a great game, still
a near triple double eleven points, nine to seven rebounds,
but three for fourteen from the floor, o for seven
from three point range, and the Valkyries the expansion yeah,
are six and six, same record as the Fever right
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now after twelve games. Clark also with six turnovers of
minus ten on the night we watched the final quarter.
A lot of physicality in this one. Once again, this
was one off in the prime. This is where the
w NBA needed to really send out the season scorecard
of where you can find the.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Wait, wait, which night of the week is it? It's
on that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We're gonna really, we're gonna let the Fever play when
the okay, when the Pacers play.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Okay, we're gonna do that. All right, that's great. We
all right, great, okay, all right, we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Make before the game all the clips this morning of
Caitlin Clark can shoot around yelling Jerry, you know, the
last couple of days has been Caitlin Clark's not appreciated
by fans, right, this conversation we've had for the last year.
The players don't appreciate her, the referees don't know how
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to officiate her. All of these things are going on,
and boy, I don't like all the hate for Caitlyn Clark.
You've seen people step up on it. You know, Chris
Everett was talking about it to take Christine Brennan, longtime
USA Today columnists, and that's been a very popular Hey,
she's not appreciated.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You need to do the WNBA needs to do more
right by Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And this is one of those I call it a
Wire conversation because The Wire was such a great show,
because it made no apologies, said listen, this is this
is this is what it is. This is what life is.
You can like it not like it, but this is real.
Uh I don't There's no solutions, there's no happy endings.
Some happy endings happen, some bad endings happen. Right, this
is what it is. There's no solutions for this, but
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I will tell you. But I'll tell you this. There's
always going to be this anti Caitlin Clark portion of
the league fans on social media. It's going to continue
to be a slog for her in the w for
physical play and how she's appreciated or not appreciated. It's
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been a year plus now, and it's not going away.
This is simply going to be around for the majority
of her career. I mean, short of winning a bunch
of championships and when she's in the league for like
ten years and all the players that are jealous of
her now find their way out of the league. Yeah,
maybe then, but this is just going to continue to happen.
No one's gonna suddenly say, oh, well, now the Caitlyn's here.
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I understand No, there's going to get more upset because
the better the WNBA does, the more credit Caitlin Clark
is gonna get. We're going to be in that cycle
for a long time. So I'm sorry, but get used
to it because this is going to be a storyline
that goes in perpetuity. Here's something that happens with Caitlyn Clark.
Was she represented what she done right by the officials?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Was she not?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Was this something that was out of bounds? Look at
what's said on social media? Is this something that can
be taken care of? Is this something that you should
blow off? This is going to be a continued storyline
for Caitlin Clark. It's not gonna go away. She's never
gonna get that on that unbelievable, unconditional love. You know,
she has most love for most fans and people who
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know what's going on with the sport. Hey, she's bringing
the WNBA to a great place, but she's not gonna
get that. She's not gonna like the era of social media.
It's never gonna happen, right, Michael Jordan, we talked about
it with Lebron James last night. If Michael Jordan came
around now he would be as polarizing as Lebron. Right,
that's what we do. That's what's done to people who
are all time greats, and we find a way to
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take cuts at them.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Tom Brady even couldn't get that he had ah Brady's
on the team, he had the plays ahead of time.
It was he had the football's deflated. There's just not
gonna happen. Jordan came around before that era, before it
was and all the stuff though, all the exploits we
heard about him over the course of his career. There
was no video everywhere, there are no camera phones everywhere.
But that's gonna happen. It's not Caitlin Clark unique. This
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is what's happened to lebra On James, this is what's
happened to Patrick Mahomes. This is what's happening to everybody,
every star. There's people are going to find a way.
There's gonna be loud social media, loud player reaction to
I don't like this person for whatever reason, whether it
is in line or just completely outlandish. But this stuff
with Caitlin Clark, it's just gonna continue. And she's got
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a shoulder on with it because it's just gonna be
a slog well, but it's good for talking points, right
when you're in our business the what do you do
the opposite? A lot of times I was like, all right,
that's a pretty good point. But you know what, you
can make the case over here, right, it's point counterpoint,
embrace debate and television and radio which is run a book.
But in any walk of life, no matter what you
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do in your personal lives, in your work life, you
want a little bit of credit for the job you're
getting done, whatever that means. And I understand for a
lot of the WNBA players there's a bit of saltiness
if you're putting up numbers in your team's winning games.
Caitlin Clark comes in, you want a little bit of
that shine now. So you and I have been doing
this show a decade plus at this point here on
(24:03):
Fox Sports Radio and part of watching the WNBA, because
let's call it what it is, summertime. We're always looking
for live sports, and we've tracked the league and it
certainly has gone to a different level, but we've always
acknowledged it. We've talked to a lot of these players
as they've finished up their collegiate exploits and the Women's
Tournament through the years, but the officiating has always been spotty, right,
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how physical do you let it get? Star treatment, star players,
all of those things, and Caitlin Clark is just the
latest in that. Because if you go and watch a
game that doesn't have anything to do with it, I'm
guaranteeing you you're complaining about the reference just as much
in those games as you are in the Caitlan Clark
officiated games. I guarantee to you based on the way
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they adjudicate things game to game, and again it's star treatment.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
How far do you go? How much do you impact
the flow of the game. We're watching this one.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
There was a review on a call right where off
a screen the player gets bounced into Clark, she gets
called for a fule.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
She's just standing there as the girl gets bumped into
hers Like, how's a what that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But they went to a five minute review on it. Well, yeah,
we were watching. It was a ten minute block that
twenty two seconds. You ain't salty, man, You said, you
don't even watching this game for like six minutes they
played twenty two seconds.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It was a thurder.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's salty. No, but there's flow. Basketball is a game
of flow. It's like that review is nothing. The girl
got bounced by by a Leah Boston. If anybody's getting
a fault on her, Clark's just like I got hit
in a fly by kind of fake. But it's those
kind of moments that you make you pause and go oh.
They're struggling to just go through the basics with this
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at times. But from the player perspective, I understand their frustration.
That's not gonna go away. And it doesn't matter if
the players that are on her ik Now, I mean,
look at you know we always talk about Kelsey plumban
take some time to heal or whatever else. Big video
making the rounds because now the appreciation and celebration of
these players and these teams has taken on the NBA,
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Major League Baseball. Well, people are going to hotels to
try to get autographs. That's freaking people out. Kelsey Plum
calling people out. I like, no, this goes with that
next level of celebrity is that people are recognizing there's
markets to be made. There's dollars a man or collections
to build. You decide where that line is with all
of it. But it's that next iteration of stardom, of
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like you're not just saying look at look at Cunningham.
She goes from being what is it, half a billion
new followers on TikTok in the last seventy two hours.
All you do is coming a hard foul at the end,
standing up for Katelyn. I love Caitlyn, and they get
the oh here was her fit pregame Yes, married to
two of those half a half a million new follows. No,
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I mean, it's it's just she just has to just
have to understand this is how it's going to go
for Kaitlyn Clark, which is really rough because I gotta say,
there's I don't know anybody that could carry themselves as
well as she has throughout all of this, uh the
last last year and a half, Like every time she
opens her mouth and says something she tried, I feel
like it's it's very measured because she wants to make
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sure I want to say what I want to say.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't want to have it spun around where someone
says something else. And she's realizing that people are gonna
do that anyway. Well, she tries to keep it to basketball,
and that's the incredib for like, and she's chippy and
she incites a lot of stuff on the court. Anybody
that's watched five minutes of a Caitlin Clark game going
back to her time at Iowa has seen this. She's
not afraid to get into it. And then she knows
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she's got her enforcers to take her back. Now, Like
it's like all great goal scorers like you were in hockey, right,
I mean, like you tell me you could mix it up,
but someone else had to come over and be in
goon it up for you. Caitlyn Clark has that. But
once it gets to the interviews, even after the Freakis
the other night, it was, you know, I don't want
to talk about let's talk about basketball. Ye hard falls
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we play on now, I mean right now to the
point where they're they're trying to say, all right, let's
get past this, right, and I've talked about getting past it,
but you realize that there it's it's always going to happen.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Here's the Connecticut Sun that that she gets it. It's
not just her And when they play the sky in
Angel reees it's now when they play the Sun and yeah,
and here's other players who are gonna get involved with
there's it's it's just always going to be there. This
is this is gonna be the consistent story. It's gonna
be Why doesn't Caitlin Clark get appreciate. Yeah, we're we're.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Doing it now.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We did it a year ago, We're gonna be doing
it a year from now, it'll be three years from now,
it'll be five years from now. Did you buy your
meebound shirt? I did not buy And just really quick,
me bound. Okay, I get that. People are saying me
bound for Angel Reese and okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna
patent that and try to make money on it because
you know, she's living beyond her means. Despite the fact
she's got a McDonald's endorsement deal and she owns a
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soccer team. She's living beyond means. Uh, me bound that.
The connotation is that you rebound your own misshots too often,
so when you say me bound, that's but this is
also owning your own miss You're owning that phrase saying
all right, if you're gonna get you're gonna pay me
for it. I can't fault a good strategy. She's gonna
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of those shirts, probably as many as the overrate that
or this.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, you know what, let's talk to somebody who hasn't
overrate that T shirt or at least has one. Mom ways,
because it's being delivered to her parents' house, because you
know they'll be there to sign for it.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's Monty Belaga. You know I'm stealing that shirt. She's
just gonna ask me what that means.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Get get to this, and then I have to explain it.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
She's gonna open the mail when you get it, want.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
To she if she opens something, that's always on accident,
and then she'll send.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Me a picture of it, be like, sorry, I thought
it was my box and it's like a pair of.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Jordan's and she's like, sorry, I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Mine wearing Jordan's on the court doing a rock.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
It's definitely not. But no, she won't open it. I
mean when she does, it'st accident. She sends me a picture.
Sorry I thought it was my bos. I'm like, all right, mommy, whatever, whatever,
no problem. But yes, I it said it is going
to be here tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think that I have to check again.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I think you're getting it before seven? How many this
bots never arrived? Did you have from mom?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
And no, they all arrived, just sometimes they're open.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
That's all because she gets excited, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, your mom's saying, Hey, I'm in a porch, pirate
this T shirt if I like it, if I like it,
so see.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
It never came. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Almost and then I see a picture of her with
my dad drinking and says like, overrate that hot?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You know we're having like some I got. I don't
know where that is.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, that's exactly exactly Kaitlin Clark did struggle from the
field today. You guys are just talking about her. She
was over for seven from the three, three or fourteen
from the field in general, had eleven points, seven rebounds
and that assist, but the Fever lost to the Valkyries
eighty eight to seventy seven. Now in the NBA, we're
getting a game of seven as it was all Indiana
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second quarter and on they defeated Okay see one O
eight to ninety one was the final score. Pascal Siakam
a double double, Tyrese Halliburn fourteen points, five assists in
only twenty three minutes of play. TJ McConnell off the
bench twelve points, nine rebound, six assists. For OKC, they
had twenty one turnovers compared to Indiana, who only had ten.
Shai Gildos Alexander twenty one points, Jalen Williams sixteen points.
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Game seven is on Sunday at eight Eastern, and you
did mention it's the first game seven since twenty sixteen
between the Cavs and the Warriors. Two baseball games still
going on. The Astros have tied the game against the
A's it's four to four top of the ninth inning.
While the Padres have added some more runs, they're still
shutting out the Dodgers five zero bottom of the eighth
inning in LA. Earlier today in baseball, the Orioles outscored
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the Rays four to one, the Braves outscored the Mets
seven to one. New York has lost six in a row,
and the Phillies edged the Marlins two to one. Kyle
Schwarber with his twenty third home run of the season,
and after a rained laying the ninth inning with a
tie game, the Pirates top the Tigers eight four and
ten innings to split their double header today. The Cardinal
defeated the White Sox eighty six and ten innings to
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take both games in their doubleheader.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Today and uh.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
In soccer at the Corn kak Off, Gold Club Gold
Cup USA defeated Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Gold Club is a much different place, I know, Gold Cup. Yeah,
gold Come. I'm gonna keep on Gold Club, Gold Cup.
Different place you have, say in Atlanta. So okay, there
you go. Wings for everybody to advance to the knockout round.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Okay, back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
He's like, I'm out lots of Gold Club.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Okay, all right, now we know, now we know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thank you very much, Jess, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Love
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's not every day that the best player of a sports.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Says, yeah, I don't know what my future holds. Wait
a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What Maybe you're gonna get Maybe you can get traded,
maybe gonna go sign someplace else.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
You'll hear it. Coming up next, Radio Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven pm.
Pacific and here it is.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I said it was gonna happen. It's happening. I said,
all week you talk about bold predictions.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I got wrong. Nothing bold about it. McMahon.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I said it was happening. It's happening.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's bubbling under the ground like some oil, like some crude.
Padres lead the Dodgers five nothing as the Padres bat
in the top of the ninth inning. This series has
been full of emotions. Players have been getting hit for
Nano to tease Junior getting hit, show Heyo Tani was
getting hit. It has been a big emotional series. And
(33:49):
Fernando to tist Junior.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Was just hit. And this this is insane.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
What's happening right now? Because I think the managers are
going to fight to tease Junior gets They have not
shown a replay, but it looked like he was up.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
In his hands.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
He's hitting the top of the ninth inning with one out,
Padres up five to nothing. Uh to tease Junior is
on the ground. Mike Shilt comes streaming out of the dug.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh, here goes Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think he's trying to circle past everybody to get
to child Shilt.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Oh my goodness, know me on the mound, man, see
me on the mound. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So Shilt comes out and he is screaming. It looks
like he's making a b line for the pitchers mound,
and he is. You can see the f bombs coming
off of him while this is going on right now,
and and and this is now a thing. He comes out,
he's yelling, he's yelling, he's yelling. And then I've said
all week the Padres and Dodgers are gonna brawl at
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some point this year. It's going to happen. They need
to settle these these emotions, and they need to get
because every game is more and more fraught with tension. Yeah,
you gotta relieve that pressure valve. At some point I
said it was good. I said it may not be
this series, but they are absolutely going to brawl at
some point. Right So Jack little hits to tease. Shilt
(35:05):
comes running out, looks like he's going towards the mound,
and then the bench is empty, and they both run
at each other, and it looks like they all congregate
right around the backstop. And then Dave Roberts is behind everybody.
Dave Roberts kind of doing the fake tough guy, hold
me back.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, kick yourrast you want me.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
It looked like he's doing the Jerry Stiller you want
to You're saying you want a piece of meat. I said,
Oh man, he's yelling and he's yelling and he's gesturing
like come on, bring it. Mike Shilt is yelling from
behind everybody else and then Dave Roberts kind of circumvents
doesn't end run where he goes around.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
The whole all the players who are on the field.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Looks like he's there saying, hey, you come talk to me,
Come talk to me. Mike Shilt walks away, and everybody
is still on the field. Right now at Chavez Ravine,
the entire Padres team is on the field, The entire
Dodgers team is on the field, and it looks like
they're all protecting their their managers. That's the crazy part
of this. Ta Oscar Hernandez now in front of Roberts.
(36:06):
Now Roberts circling again, Shilts lost, his glasses are in
his hand.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's how you know it got serious, you know, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ip telling you I said it was
gonna happen, and it did. Can't really tell if there
were any punches thrown. Now both seat teams have been separated,
but they were both together up against the wall, and
and Shilt and Dave Roberts were absolutely going at it
from like fifty feet away. And Roberts is still I
(36:33):
looked at if I could read his lips looking he says,
I'm gonna get your blank.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That just looks like you're saying.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
He's pointing, And I don't know if he's pointing a
Shilt or not, because they're showing Roberts, but he's yelling,
I'm gonna get your blank, and he's pointing as he's
going back to what he said, I was gonna beat
your ass.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Might be saying that it might be for something or
some derivative.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Now you got Tay Oscar going up with and talking
to Shilt. Yeah, obviously we've seen it. We saw the piez.
He's not a big dog and you know talk from
earlier in the the series.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And then he got plunked, uh and more screaming who.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Do you think you are? I am, and all all
of these things. Uh but really no, uh, no brawl.
And now Shilton Hernandez laughing it up as they're walking
down up up the baseline. So, uh, calmer heads prevail,
not not nearly the the fisticuffs, we don't.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
But Dave Roberts, I can't wait for his post. I mean,
it'll be fiery.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I mean, so I'm gonna take a win on this.
I'm gonna take a win in this Padres Dodger cleared.
So yeah, you take, you take the w tom taking.
It's a lot of posturing and a lot of but
but you got you gotta let some of that heat off, right,
I mean that that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
It's just been building.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
And as soon as you get one of your stars hit,
because those are the kind of hit by pitches that
become things.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Right when you're talking about your hands and your wrists.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
We've seen guys miss months of action due to stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And while you're still competive.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You're six games back of the Dodgers right now in
the standings, but you know it's a long season ahead.
So for Shilton Company, I don't blame him. A little
bump between he and Roberts to get this thing started
before the umpires got in the way. They were derelicting
their duties to let the two of them get his
clubs to actually make physical contact with one another. But hey,
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it provided a thrill on this beautiful Thursday night because
the basketball game didn't. That sucked to the men's national team.
At least gave us some juice. Caitlin Clark was no
good man. I'm trying to find wins here.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
We almost had a manager brawl, almost almost had any
I mean, I mean, really, that's what have been something
Forget about the players.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
We almost had a manager brawl.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I mean, the last time we got anything near that.
I mean that's when Pedro dumped on Zimmer. I mean,
I'm taking the w it was. It was as enough
you at least get a push. So what's happening right
now is to tease. Junior was was escorted off the field,
looked like by a trainer who was holding his hand
(39:00):
up right, which is the dreaded oode. And something happened
that I could hit. Yeah, So he's walking off the field.
He's walking off the field with his wrist being held up.
Dave Roberts is talking to two of the umpires. Meanwhile
Mike Schilt is talking to the other two umpires. These
guys are not get thrown out This is like in
a This is like in a in a parking lot
brawl at night. Okay, you talked to the one guy,
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I'll talk to the other guy. We'll try to keep
everybody inside. But legitimately I could be in the dugout
and say that was a bleeping strike because ya Momono
got screwed in the first right should have had an
amac lee immaculate any if he'd questioned the balls and strike,
he could have been thrown out. But he can literally
go and physically accost the other manager, and it's a
play on. I'm curious about the ruling. We're getting an
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announcement of the umpires. I believe they said they're gonna
go back and look at something I don't know. I mean, look,
we had Andy pa has getting hit. We had this
is a second time, Tatisa gotten hit. Oh Tani got hit.
This has been full of bean balls on his Instagram.
Yeah page as well. I mean, some fun with it.
It is, it has it has been a series, and
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now the bench is empty.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I'm taking the w on it. I'm taking the I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Taking the the managers made physical contact, well, no punches
were thrown. We got a belly bump and a chest bump.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
That's enough.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, and I believe Dave Roberts may have actually been
Uh yes.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
He looks like he's leading.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, it looks like he didn't know that he was
thrown out. He's leaving Mike shilt Is. I don't know
if he would see him at the moment. I don't
see him. And they're waiting to finish this game again.
Five nothing top of the ninth inning. Uh, we just
saw Jack got with the Dodgers come back and they
get sticks on the bottom of the ninth Oh, Tani
hits a walk off. Yeah, so the umpires are conferring
a home plate for something. But yeah, there it is,
(40:45):
benches empty, padres and the Dodgers five nothing in the
ninth inning. Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I hope he's all right though.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
So we'll have more on this big breaking story coming
up next, as well as the biggest door of a
sport may want to leave his team.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
To Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hell aias Hello, Welcome in side our three The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Were Game
six of the NBA Finals goes to the Pacers one
O eight to ninety one, setting up a winner take
all Game seven.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
First game seven almost ten years.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Go back to that Cleveland Golden States Series, the Big
Block to lebron Chase down block. Last time we had
a Game seven. I got a cool card to that.
You want to buy it? How much? Six hundred psa ten?
How about I'll give you ten there, I've got like
three of the only like seven or eight that give back.
I'll give you ten bucks right now now, but right
(01:09):
now now, I'll get ten bucks right now now. You
sounded like me ten bucks cash, no checks right now
I'll give you cause you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You have it right now. I try no.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Joining us now on the Hotline to break down what
we saw, what we will see, what are we going
to see from the new look, new owned Lakers. Fox
Sports one NBA insider extraordinaire. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker.
Check out the On the Ball podcast, in which he
is breaking down all thirty seven of the knicks possibilities
(01:38):
to be their new head coach.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I thought he was going to count the turnovers tonight.
It is Rick Buker. Rick, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Man? I have mixed ings, gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Okay, why are you mixed?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
For? So? Game seven? What's better than a game seven,
particularly in the finals with a title on the line.
There's nothing better than that, except except maybe playing in
a celebrity golf tournament in Houston, which is what I
was supposed to be doing Monday if this series got
over tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh no, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well, I gotta I gotta go to work. I won't
I won't play. I won't be playing golf. I'll be
I'll be in the LA studios doing my job first
thing in the morning. On Monday. Uh, talking about wherever
this goes in a game seven and at this point
with this series, who knows. I'm look sick with with Okay,
(02:36):
you's gonna find a way to get it done at home.
But they they, they without question had the close out
jitters tonight in Indiana. As you know, I don't want
to take anything away from the Pacers, but this really
was Oklahoma City not playing their game whatsoever, which opened
the door for the Pacers to play theirs in a
way that they haven't been able to, uh the previous
(02:59):
two game.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, here's the thing is, Rick is I had it
set after game two. I said, look, neither team is
going to impart their will on the other. They'll split
the next two games and it's going to go home,
home home. And there you went, And what happened? They
split the next two games home home. Yeah, I'm going
Pacers in game seven.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You you are what I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm going thundering games.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Win tonight, thundering game home home home five, six and seven,
thundering thundering game seven.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah. Okay, that's all of that makes makes sense. I'm
glad that I you know, and and the rest of
the world did not hear that, because it would have
taken all the suspense, Yeah, out of the previous the
previous two games. We all would have been well, Jason,
Chason knows what's going on, So what's the point of
even watching. We'll just wait until Sunday.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, right, I heard him. I will get off everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Everybody could have just played solitaire instead. It would have
been fine, everybody.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
We don't even really have to watch Sunday, do we No, you.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Don't know, you know, you know how it's going to
just play solitaire, the entire regular solitaire, spider, solitaire.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Ah, you do whatever you want. It's gonna be. I've
given everybody their weekend.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Back, Steve. And here's the thing. Here's the thing, Steven,
they would have been playing solitaire, regardless of whether he
knew the outcomings or not.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
That that is a fair point. All right.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
When did you think in the second quarter that they
just said, all right, wrap it up, let's just play
out the string today.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I don't I don't think it was. I really don't
think it was so much that. I mean, they did
make a run in the you know, toward the end
of the third quarter. I thought they, you know, when
they got it to eighteen, I thought, Okay, maybe maybe
Oklahoma City is going to find a little something. And
I felt like if they could have gotten this down
to single digits, the Pacers would have played a completely
(04:48):
different way. It just you know, they got out in
front and then they could just play loose and play free.
And they are at their best when they when they
find that right that at the right tempo of playing
fast but not but not reckless. And it's a little
bit easier to do that when you're up by fifteen
(05:10):
or twenty. You know, you have one turnover or you
have one missshot, you're not sweating it. And so that's
where Oklahoma City's inability to make this a close game
after the second quarter I think was really the difference.
And so we'll see. You know, look, there was what startled.
(05:33):
It was just so startling is after watching Andrew Nemhart
and Tyre's Halliburton not even look to shoot for two games,
the idea that they would suddenly wake up and be
as aggressive as they were in this game was really
it was. It was stunning. I mean, Nemmark was the
(05:56):
guy that I thought he was and disappeared for two games.
And suddenly he was. He was back to the guy
that that that I've always thought he could be. So,
you know, can they take that on the road? Can
they take that to Oklahoma City? Can they can they say, Hey,
look that we've given ourselves a chance. Is Oklahoma City
(06:18):
going to how are they going to respond? I mean,
this is this is what makes this for all of
Jason's crystal ball ability is is that you have two
teams that have never been here before and there suddenly,
and they're young, relatively young teams faced with the prospect
of achieving the lifelong goal of a championship and being
(06:43):
on that doorstep just does funny things to guys who
have never even been on that doorstep before, much less
got it done. So I will be I mean, I'm
I would expect that Oklahoma City is because because the
role players have played such a significant part in each
team's success, h and role players generally feel more comfortable
(07:07):
with their crowd sharing them Lawn. I would think that
Oklahoma City is going to have the edge. But I
did not expect them to come out the way they
did tonight. They were a step glow. They were out
of sync. SGA was forcing the Ball. I just think
they told me they showed me so much poison maturity
(07:29):
up to this point. Uh. This, this, this performance tonight
caught me a little lock guard.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
FS one's Rick Bucher, our guest Jason Smith, right, Mike Harmon,
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now you mentioned
Tyre's Halliburton. Now its beacause of being you know, Crystal
Ball I said this this week.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We were we were fed the injury overblown because somehow
the Pacers wanted to protect Halliburton from the awful game
that he had in Game five, and from that being
the story for the next three days. You know, we
know Haliburton listens to what is said about him. We
know that he does the chip on his shoulder thing,
(08:07):
and it's one of the worst NBA Finals games a
star player has ever had. So the next day we
get oh yeah, yeah, Mri coming, oh yeah. If it
was a if it was a regular season, he'd be
out for two weeks. He played thirty four minutes in
Game five, second most on the team. He played tonight,
he looked absolutely fine. I feel like that was something
that was thrown out there just so Halliburton could escape
criticism for the next few days. We can get into
(08:29):
game six with a more confident frame of mind.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I really think that I and it's a fair and
reasonable and rational thought. Somebody write that down. How many
times have I said that, what's the date? Time and date?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Time and date nine to ten Pacific just after midnight
East Coast time.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Let's put that one in the books. No, I'm I'm,
I'm with you for for all those for all those reasons,
and I I just that's the That's the difficult thing
with Tyree Halliburton is that we've seen him play as
the way that he did in game five. Now you know,
not that it's quite that bad, but close close in
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terms of just the lack of past or the amount
of passivity and so like I was looking at it thinking, look,
one thing is with Halliburton's game, I don't think unlike
a Jalen Brunson, for example, I don't think he plays
well when he's not one hundred percent. So I'll give
you that, maybe he tweaked the cast, maybe it's a
(09:36):
it's a little tight, he's not feeling quite right. He
doesn't have a good game to adjust to that to
get to get to his spot. In other ways, he
just doesn't have the skills. But I also think that
tonight Nemhart took a lot of pressure off him in
that Halliburton could settle for shooting threes early on, and
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then once he hit a couple of those, they had
to come out and put a little more pressure on
him right from the start, and that gave him the
lanes to get into the paint, so he didn't he
didn't have to really have a burst to be able
to get there. I really, to me the difference maker.
You know, while while Haliburton, I mean Haliburton had an
(10:20):
okay game and fourteen points, five assists, I mean, then
em Hart was was really the difference maker in with
his seventeen, with his shooting, with his aggression across the
board for assists, one turnover, seventeen points. It doesn't sound
like a ton but considering the last game he and
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Tyresee combined for eleven points, nine assists, and seven turnovers,
and there was about a sixty point difference between the
two backcourts. They they changed that dramatically in U in
this and I think that that now I just need
to see they can they take that on the road.
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Can they make that they can they travel with that
because because we didn't see that the previous two games,
and we certainly didn't see that in Oklahoma City the
last time we were there.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I just don't like anytime Nemhard gets some run because
Jason bristols, because he's still thinking back to last year, Rick,
So he's having flashbacks.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
As we sit here. All right, So let's get through the.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Other big story of the week, the Los Angeles Lakers
value of ten billion dollars, the sale, and now Walter
and his management company come in. Jeanie Bussel stay governor
for at least a short period of time. I would
love to have been able to sit in on that
family meeting for one thing, Rick, But the other is
all right, substantive change is short and long term.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
What are we anticipating, Well, I would expect with Walter's
pocket that. You know the thing when you whenever you
talk to anybody in the league about the Lakers, they
always talked about what a mom and pop organization it
is that they don't have. They don't have the staff
and the and everything that the top organizations have. And
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we think about the Lakers as being you know, one
of one of the prestige franchises, but they just didn't
have the buses, didn't have the money to compete with
the billionaires that now own teams that have you know,
discretionary funds beyond the teams. They've made their money elsewhere.
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The Bucks has made their money owning the Lakers, and
so Walter will give them the resources that they haven't had.
And that's where I think that Doctor Bucks would have been.
He would have approved of this because he didn't want
just want to own the Lakers. He wanted to own
the Lakers and make them a winning franchise, and financially
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his offspring just weren't in a place in today's in
today's NBA to be able to do that. So the
interesting part for me will be, so do we see
them expand all that they do and exactly how long
is team the head and running things because they have
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some I thought this was a dodge initially when it
was sold, I was like, you know what he's getting
out from under having to make a difficult pr decision
on lebron'says.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think I would be surprised Rick if this was
like a year like Jeanie would come do it, and
Mark Walter would come in and over the course of
the season, and at the end of the year, Okay,
now I'm stepping away and that's it, which would which
would coincide with the end of lebron era.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But I would be so proud.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh it's going to be for a while. It would
be for this year, and then very quietly she steps away.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well, yeah, And I don't know enough about Mark Walter
to know what you know.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Most, if most.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Owners, I would say, you're absolutely right. When they spend
this much money on a franchise, they don't want to
just own the toy. They want to be able to
play with it, and they want to make decisions in
terms of who is running it. You see that with
every single owner that steps in and buys a franchise.
But he's own pieces of a number of LA Sports
(14:23):
franchises obviously, and I don't know how involved he has
been with them in the decision making or if he
saw his opportunity in terms of I've never been able
to really have a say in terms of how those
other organizations are run. I saw my opportunity to buy
a big enough chunk of the Lakers that I now
get to experience that, so that may be it. Until
(14:45):
I know more about Mark Walter. I really can't tell
you how short that runway is going to be, but
it makes sense based on past owners. It would make
sense if it was simply a transitional position as opposed
to he's gonna be there two three years.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Check out the On the Ball podcast?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Rick?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
How many Knicks coaches potential? Did you interview on the
On the Ball podcast this week?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Well, I did a show with Paul Pierson just so
you know. He turned down the job as well.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh all right, wow really? Okay?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well yeah, because I mean he could walk. He could
walk to work in the city. In New York City,
you could walk to work. You kind of have to.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, I was, by the way, I just my Uber driver.
He also turned it down.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Okay, Oh good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Are you sure you can't do the TV show from
the Tea Box on Monday? Man?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
If I could, I would, trust me, I would, But no,
Unfortunately I am. I'm gonna have to miss it this year.
But uh, I'm already trying to figure out how I
can talk to Adam Silver to say, hey, can we
can we can we schedule the finals a little earlier
next time because I gotta I gotta golf. I gotta
(15:59):
go golf.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You get said Smith in your stand pretends to swing
him now, and I got a golf in the morning.
I can't cover the game. I can't do that.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, no, just screw that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
No the game, Adam, that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I got how much use I have? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Take it easy, buddy, have a great weekend. We'll talk
to you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It goes Rit Bucher, great stuff on the NBA Finals,
well more in the NBA Finals, but coming up next.
Not every superstar in Indiana had a great night tonight.
Plus there is another superstar that a member of this
show can't stand, has hated for years. But I guarantee
(16:45):
is gonna do a one to eighty on them after
we play what they said today.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I hate a lot of people. This can be anybody.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You wait, you wi oh years years somebody on the
show absolutely hated this superstar. But after what he said today,
oh no, oh, I love this guy. That's next right here,
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So lock it in and rip the knob off. So
not everybody connected to Indiana sports had a great night tonight,
(18:04):
now I mean almost everybody did.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You had the Pacers pushing this to Game seven of
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
All right, great, huh, great night.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Greg McConnell's family all showing up in the post game
in yeah we.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Know, Dad, No whole family.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
We had the med at World Peace, had his whole
family there and this is this is my wife, this
mighty I'm Ron. But not a great night for Caitlyn Clark,
playing her first game since the big fouls from a
couple of nights ago with the Sun and Sophie Cunningham
playing protector and they played with out their coach. Yeah, absence,
(18:38):
Hopefully everything's okay. Personal issue to attend to. I have
to think that that's something regarding Carol, like Carol loss,
like they've been together at something regarding her mom. That
was BET's been in the news the last couple of days.
So yes, the best thoughts of both of them.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
In tonight's game, Caitlyn Clark not a great game, still
a near triple double eleven points, nine to seven rebounds,
but three for fourteen from the floor, o for seven
from three point range, and the Valkyries the expansion yeah,
are six and six, same record as the Fever right
(19:15):
now after twelve games. Clark also with six turnovers of
minus ten on the night we watched the final quarter.
A lot of physicality in this one. Once again, this
was one off in the prime. This is where the
w NBA needed to really send out the season scorecard
of where you can find the.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Wait, wait, which night of the week is it? It's
on that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We're gonna really, we're gonna let the Fever play when
the okay, when the Pacers play.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Okay, we're gonna do that. All right, that's great. We
all right, great, okay, all right, we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Make before the game all the clips this morning of
Caitlin Clark can shoot around yelling Jerry, you know, the
last couple of days has been Caitlin Clark's not appreciated
by fans, right, this conversation we've had for the last year.
The players don't appreciate her, the referees don't know how
(20:11):
to officiate her. All of these things are going on,
and boy, I don't like all the hate for Caitlyn Clark.
You've seen people step up on it. You know, Chris
Everett was talking about it to take Christine Brennan, longtime
USA Today columnists, and that's been a very popular Hey,
she's not appreciated.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You need to do the WNBA needs to do more
right by Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And this is one of those I call it a
Wire conversation because The Wire was such a great show,
because it made no apologies, said listen, this is this
is this is what it is. This is what life is.
You can like it not like it, but this is real.
Uh I don't There's no solutions, there's no happy endings.
Some happy endings happen, some bad endings happen. Right, this
is what it is. There's no solutions for this, but
(20:52):
I will tell you. But I'll tell you this. There's
always going to be this anti Caitlin Clark portion of
the league fans on social media. It's going to continue
to be a slog for her in the w for
physical play and how she's appreciated or not appreciated. It's
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been a year plus now, and it's not going away.
This is simply going to be around for the majority
of her career. I mean, short of winning a bunch
of championships and when she's in the league for like
ten years and all the players that are jealous of
her now find their way out of the league. Yeah,
maybe then, but this is just going to continue to happen.
No one's gonna suddenly say, oh, well, now the Caitlyn's here.
(21:34):
I understand No, there's going to get more upset because
the better the WNBA does, the more credit Caitlin Clark
is gonna get. We're going to be in that cycle
for a long time. So I'm sorry, but get used
to it because this is going to be a storyline
that goes in perpetuity. Here's something that happens with Caitlyn Clark.
Was she represented what she done right by the officials?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Was she not?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Was this something that was out of bounds? Look at
what's said on social media? Is this something that can
be taken care of? Is this something that you should
blow off? This is going to be a continued storyline
for Caitlin Clark. It's not gonna go away. She's never
gonna get that on that unbelievable, unconditional love. You know,
she has most love for most fans and people who
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know what's going on with the sport. Hey, she's bringing
the WNBA to a great place, but she's not gonna
get that. She's not gonna like the era of social media.
It's never gonna happen, right, Michael Jordan, we talked about
it with Lebron James last night. If Michael Jordan came
around now he would be as polarizing as Lebron. Right,
that's what we do. That's what's done to people who
are all time greats, and we find a way to
(22:36):
take cuts at them.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Tom Brady even couldn't get that he had ah Brady's
on the team, he had the plays ahead of time.
It was he had the football's deflated. There's just not
gonna happen. Jordan came around before that era, before it
was and all the stuff though, all the exploits we
heard about him over the course of his career. There
was no video everywhere, there are no camera phones everywhere.
But that's gonna happen. It's not Caitlin Clark unique. This
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is what's happened to lebra On James, this is what's
happened to Patrick Mahomes. This is what's happening to everybody,
every star. There's people are going to find a way.
There's gonna be loud social media, loud player reaction to
I don't like this person for whatever reason, whether it
is in line or just completely outlandish. But this stuff
with Caitlin Clark, it's just gonna continue. And she's got
(23:21):
a shoulder on with it because it's just gonna be
a slog well, but it's good for talking points, right
when you're in our business the what do you do
the opposite? A lot of times I was like, all right,
that's a pretty good point. But you know what, you
can make the case over here, right, it's point counterpoint,
embrace debate and television and radio which is run a book.
But in any walk of life, no matter what you
(23:43):
do in your personal lives, in your work life, you
want a little bit of credit for the job you're
getting done, whatever that means. And I understand for a
lot of the WNBA players there's a bit of saltiness
if you're putting up numbers in your team's winning games.
Caitlin Clark comes in, you want a little bit of
that shine now. So you and I have been doing
this show a decade plus at this point here on
(24:03):
Fox Sports Radio and part of watching the WNBA, because
let's call it what it is, summertime. We're always looking
for live sports, and we've tracked the league and it
certainly has gone to a different level, but we've always
acknowledged it. We've talked to a lot of these players
as they've finished up their collegiate exploits and the Women's
Tournament through the years, but the officiating has always been spotty, right,
(24:24):
how physical do you let it get? Star treatment, star players,
all of those things, and Caitlin Clark is just the
latest in that. Because if you go and watch a
game that doesn't have anything to do with it, I'm
guaranteeing you you're complaining about the reference just as much
in those games as you are in the Caitlan Clark
officiated games. I guarantee to you based on the way
(24:46):
they adjudicate things game to game, and again it's star treatment.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
How far do you go? How much do you impact
the flow of the game. We're watching this one.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
There was a review on a call right where off
a screen the player gets bounced into Clark, she gets
called for a fule.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
She's just standing there as the girl gets bumped into
hers Like, how's a what that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But they went to a five minute review on it. Well, yeah,
we were watching. It was a ten minute block that
twenty two seconds. You ain't salty, man, You said, you
don't even watching this game for like six minutes they
played twenty two seconds.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It was a thurder.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's salty. No, but there's flow. Basketball is a game
of flow. It's like that review is nothing. The girl
got bounced by by a Leah Boston. If anybody's getting
a fault on her, Clark's just like I got hit
in a fly by kind of fake. But it's those
kind of moments that you make you pause and go oh.
They're struggling to just go through the basics with this
(25:42):
at times. But from the player perspective, I understand their frustration.
That's not gonna go away. And it doesn't matter if
the players that are on her ik Now, I mean,
look at you know we always talk about Kelsey plumban
take some time to heal or whatever else. Big video
making the rounds because now the appreciation and celebration of
these players and these teams has taken on the NBA,
(26:04):
Major League Baseball. Well, people are going to hotels to
try to get autographs. That's freaking people out. Kelsey Plum
calling people out. I like, no, this goes with that
next level of celebrity is that people are recognizing there's
markets to be made. There's dollars a man or collections
to build. You decide where that line is with all
of it. But it's that next iteration of stardom, of
(26:26):
like you're not just saying look at look at Cunningham.
She goes from being what is it, half a billion
new followers on TikTok in the last seventy two hours.
All you do is coming a hard foul at the end,
standing up for Katelyn. I love Caitlyn, and they get
the oh here was her fit pregame Yes, married to
two of those half a half a million new follows. No,
(26:48):
I mean, it's it's just she just has to just
have to understand this is how it's going to go
for Kaitlyn Clark, which is really rough because I gotta say,
there's I don't know anybody that could carry themselves as
well as she has throughout all of this, uh the
last last year and a half, Like every time she
opens her mouth and says something she tried, I feel
like it's it's very measured because she wants to make
(27:10):
sure I want to say what I want to say.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't want to have it spun around where someone
says something else. And she's realizing that people are gonna
do that anyway. Well, she tries to keep it to basketball,
and that's the incredib for like, and she's chippy and
she incites a lot of stuff on the court. Anybody
that's watched five minutes of a Caitlin Clark game going
back to her time at Iowa has seen this. She's
not afraid to get into it. And then she knows
(27:34):
she's got her enforcers to take her back. Now, Like
it's like all great goal scorers like you were in hockey, right,
I mean, like you tell me you could mix it up,
but someone else had to come over and be in
goon it up for you. Caitlyn Clark has that. But
once it gets to the interviews, even after the Freakis
the other night, it was, you know, I don't want
to talk about let's talk about basketball. Ye hard falls
(27:55):
we play on now, I mean right now to the
point where they're they're trying to say, all right, let's
get past this, right, and I've talked about getting past it,
but you realize that there it's it's always going to happen.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Here's the Connecticut Sun that that she gets it. It's
not just her And when they play the sky in
Angel reees it's now when they play the Sun and yeah,
and here's other players who are gonna get involved with
there's it's it's just always going to be there. This
is this is gonna be the consistent story. It's gonna
be Why doesn't Caitlin Clark get appreciate. Yeah, we're we're.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Doing it now.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We did it a year ago, We're gonna be doing
it a year from now, it'll be three years from now,
it'll be five years from now. Did you buy your
meebound shirt? I did not buy And just really quick,
me bound. Okay, I get that. People are saying me
bound for Angel Reese and okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna
patent that and try to make money on it because
you know, she's living beyond her means. Despite the fact
she's got a McDonald's endorsement deal and she owns a
(28:47):
soccer team. She's living beyond means. Uh, me bound that.
The connotation is that you rebound your own misshots too often,
so when you say me bound, that's but this is
also owning your own miss You're owning that phrase saying
all right, if you're gonna get you're gonna pay me
for it. I can't fault a good strategy. She's gonna
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of those shirts, probably as many as the overrate that
or this.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, you know what, let's talk to somebody who hasn't
overrate that T shirt or at least has one. Mom ways,
because it's being delivered to her parents' house, because you
know they'll be there to sign for it.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's Monty Belaga. You know I'm stealing that shirt. She's
just gonna ask me what that means.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Get get to this, and then I have to explain it.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
She's gonna open the mail when you get it, want.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
To she if she opens something, that's always on accident,
and then she'll send.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Me a picture of it, be like, sorry, I thought
it was my box and it's like a pair of.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Jordan's and she's like, sorry, I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Mine wearing Jordan's on the court doing a rock.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
It's definitely not. But no, she won't open it. I
mean when she does, it'st accident. She sends me a picture.
Sorry I thought it was my bos. I'm like, all right, mommy, whatever, whatever,
no problem. But yes, I it said it is going
to be here tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think that I have to check again.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I think you're getting it before seven? How many this
bots never arrived? Did you have from mom?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
And no, they all arrived, just sometimes they're open.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
That's all because she gets excited, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, your mom's saying, Hey, I'm in a porch, pirate
this T shirt if I like it, if I like it,
so see.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
It never came. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Almost and then I see a picture of her with
my dad drinking and says like, overrate that hot?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You know we're having like some I got. I don't
know where that is.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, that's exactly exactly Kaitlin Clark did struggle from the
field today. You guys are just talking about her. She
was over for seven from the three, three or fourteen
from the field in general, had eleven points, seven rebounds
and that assist, but the Fever lost to the Valkyries
eighty eight to seventy seven. Now in the NBA, we're
getting a game of seven as it was all Indiana
(30:54):
second quarter and on they defeated Okay see one O
eight to ninety one was the final score. Pascal Siakam
a double double, Tyrese Halliburn fourteen points, five assists in
only twenty three minutes of play. TJ McConnell off the
bench twelve points, nine rebound, six assists. For OKC, they
had twenty one turnovers compared to Indiana, who only had ten.
Shai Gildos Alexander twenty one points, Jalen Williams sixteen points.
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Game seven is on Sunday at eight Eastern, and you
did mention it's the first game seven since twenty sixteen
between the Cavs and the Warriors. Two baseball games still
going on. The Astros have tied the game against the
A's it's four to four top of the ninth inning.
While the Padres have added some more runs, they're still
shutting out the Dodgers five zero bottom of the eighth
inning in LA. Earlier today in baseball, the Orioles outscored
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the Rays four to one, the Braves outscored the Mets
seven to one. New York has lost six in a row,
and the Phillies edged the Marlins two to one. Kyle
Schwarber with his twenty third home run of the season,
and after a rained laying the ninth inning with a
tie game, the Pirates top the Tigers eight four and
ten innings to split their double header today. The Cardinal
defeated the White Sox eighty six and ten innings to
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take both games in their doubleheader.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Today and uh.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
In soccer at the Corn kak Off, Gold Club Gold
Cup USA defeated Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Gold Club is a much different place, I know, Gold Cup. Yeah,
gold Come. I'm gonna keep on Gold Club, Gold Cup.
Different place you have, say in Atlanta. So okay, there
you go. Wings for everybody to advance to the knockout round.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Okay, back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
He's like, I'm out lots of Gold Club.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Okay, all right, now we know, now we know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thank you very much, Jess, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Love
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's not every day that the best player of a sports.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Says, yeah, I don't know what my future holds. Wait
a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What Maybe you're gonna get Maybe you can get traded,
maybe gonna go sign someplace else.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
You'll hear it. Coming up next, Radio Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
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Pacific and here it is.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I said it was gonna happen. It's happening. I said,
all week you talk about bold predictions.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I got wrong. Nothing bold about it. McMahon.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I said it was happening. It's happening.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's bubbling under the ground like some oil, like some crude.
Padres lead the Dodgers five nothing as the Padres bat
in the top of the ninth inning. This series has
been full of emotions. Players have been getting hit for
Nano to tease Junior getting hit, show Heyo Tani was
getting hit. It has been a big emotional series. And
(33:49):
Fernando to tist Junior.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Was just hit. And this this is insane.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
What's happening right now? Because I think the managers are
going to fight to tease Junior gets They have not
shown a replay, but it looked like he was up.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
In his hands.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
He's hitting the top of the ninth inning with one out,
Padres up five to nothing. Uh to tease Junior is
on the ground. Mike Shilt comes streaming out of the dug.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh, here goes Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think he's trying to circle past everybody to get
to child Shilt.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Oh my goodness, know me on the mound, man, see
me on the mound. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So Shilt comes out and he is screaming. It looks
like he's making a b line for the pitchers mound,
and he is. You can see the f bombs coming
off of him while this is going on right now,
and and and this is now a thing. He comes out,
he's yelling, he's yelling, he's yelling. And then I've said
all week the Padres and Dodgers are gonna brawl at
(34:43):
some point this year. It's going to happen. They need
to settle these these emotions, and they need to get
because every game is more and more fraught with tension. Yeah,
you gotta relieve that pressure valve. At some point I
said it was good. I said it may not be
this series, but they are absolutely going to brawl at
some point. Right So Jack little hits to tease. Shilt
(35:05):
comes running out, looks like he's going towards the mound,
and then the bench is empty, and they both run
at each other, and it looks like they all congregate
right around the backstop. And then Dave Roberts is behind everybody.
Dave Roberts kind of doing the fake tough guy, hold
me back.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, kick yourrast you want me.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
It looked like he's doing the Jerry Stiller you want
to You're saying you want a piece of meat. I said,
Oh man, he's yelling and he's yelling and he's gesturing
like come on, bring it. Mike Shilt is yelling from
behind everybody else and then Dave Roberts kind of circumvents
doesn't end run where he goes around.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
The whole all the players who are on the field.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Looks like he's there saying, hey, you come talk to me,
Come talk to me. Mike Shilt walks away, and everybody
is still on the field. Right now at Chavez Ravine,
the entire Padres team is on the field, The entire
Dodgers team is on the field, and it looks like
they're all protecting their their managers. That's the crazy part
of this. Ta Oscar Hernandez now in front of Roberts.
(36:06):
Now Roberts circling again, Shilts lost, his glasses are in
his hand.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's how you know it got serious, you know, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ip telling you I said it was
gonna happen, and it did. Can't really tell if there
were any punches thrown. Now both seat teams have been separated,
but they were both together up against the wall, and
and Shilt and Dave Roberts were absolutely going at it
from like fifty feet away. And Roberts is still I
(36:33):
looked at if I could read his lips looking he says,
I'm gonna get your blank.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That just looks like you're saying.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
He's pointing, And I don't know if he's pointing a
Shilt or not, because they're showing Roberts, but he's yelling,
I'm gonna get your blank, and he's pointing as he's
going back to what he said, I was gonna beat
your ass.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Might be saying that it might be for something or
some derivative.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Now you got Tay Oscar going up with and talking
to Shilt. Yeah, obviously we've seen it. We saw the piez.
He's not a big dog and you know talk from
earlier in the the series.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And then he got plunked, uh and more screaming who.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Do you think you are? I am, and all all
of these things. Uh but really no, uh, no brawl.
And now Shilton Hernandez laughing it up as they're walking
down up up the baseline. So, uh, calmer heads prevail,
not not nearly the the fisticuffs, we don't.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
But Dave Roberts, I can't wait for his post. I mean,
it'll be fiery.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I mean, so I'm gonna take a win on this.
I'm gonna take a win in this Padres Dodger cleared.
So yeah, you take, you take the w tom taking.
It's a lot of posturing and a lot of but
but you got you gotta let some of that heat off, right,
I mean that that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
It's just been building.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
And as soon as you get one of your stars hit,
because those are the kind of hit by pitches that
become things.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Right when you're talking about your hands and your wrists.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
We've seen guys miss months of action due to stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And while you're still competive.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You're six games back of the Dodgers right now in
the standings, but you know it's a long season ahead.
So for Shilton Company, I don't blame him. A little
bump between he and Roberts to get this thing started
before the umpires got in the way. They were derelicting
their duties to let the two of them get his
clubs to actually make physical contact with one another. But hey,
(38:16):
it provided a thrill on this beautiful Thursday night because
the basketball game didn't. That sucked to the men's national team.
At least gave us some juice. Caitlin Clark was no
good man. I'm trying to find wins here.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
We almost had a manager brawl, almost almost had any
I mean, I mean, really, that's what have been something
Forget about the players.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
We almost had a manager brawl.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I mean, the last time we got anything near that.
I mean that's when Pedro dumped on Zimmer. I mean,
I'm taking the w it was. It was as enough
you at least get a push. So what's happening right
now is to tease. Junior was was escorted off the field,
looked like by a trainer who was holding his hand
(39:00):
up right, which is the dreaded oode. And something happened
that I could hit. Yeah, So he's walking off the field.
He's walking off the field with his wrist being held up.
Dave Roberts is talking to two of the umpires. Meanwhile
Mike Schilt is talking to the other two umpires. These
guys are not get thrown out This is like in
a This is like in a in a parking lot
brawl at night. Okay, you talked to the one guy,
(39:21):
I'll talk to the other guy. We'll try to keep
everybody inside. But legitimately I could be in the dugout
and say that was a bleeping strike because ya Momono
got screwed in the first right should have had an
amac lee immaculate any if he'd questioned the balls and strike,
he could have been thrown out. But he can literally
go and physically accost the other manager, and it's a
play on. I'm curious about the ruling. We're getting an
(39:45):
announcement of the umpires. I believe they said they're gonna
go back and look at something I don't know. I mean, look,
we had Andy pa has getting hit. We had this
is a second time, Tatisa gotten hit. Oh Tani got hit.
This has been full of bean balls on his Instagram.
Yeah page as well. I mean, some fun with it.
It is, it has it has been a series, and
(40:07):
now the bench is empty.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I'm taking the w on it. I'm taking the I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Taking the the managers made physical contact, well, no punches
were thrown. We got a belly bump and a chest bump.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
That's enough.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, and I believe Dave Roberts may have actually been
Uh yes.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
He looks like he's leading.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, it looks like he didn't know that he was
thrown out. He's leaving Mike shilt Is. I don't know
if he would see him at the moment. I don't
see him. And they're waiting to finish this game again.
Five nothing top of the ninth inning. Uh, we just
saw Jack got with the Dodgers come back and they
get sticks on the bottom of the ninth Oh, Tani
hits a walk off. Yeah, so the umpires are conferring
a home plate for something. But yeah, there it is,
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benches empty, padres and the Dodgers five nothing in the
ninth inning. Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I hope he's all right though.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
So we'll have more on this big breaking story coming
up next, as well as the biggest door of a
sport may want to leave his team.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
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