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Jason Smith and Mike celebrate the greatest film in the last 50 years on its anniversary. And NBA Insider Marc Stein joins the knuckleheads for all things NBA Finals and shares his favorite movie in the last 50 years.

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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
He shows, Oh boy, well you know what, I'm gonna
beat that ass, Frostburg. I'm a Dave Roberts Mike Shilt you,
but beat that ass at some point. I'm your Poppy Chulo,
so you know, but gonna beat that ass just like

(00:55):
Dave Roberts promise. I'm gonna beat that ass up. Okay,
different thing, different thing, Tyson, It's okay. Extension, Happy, Happy Friday.
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I am probably about as mad as Dave Roberts was
at Mike Shilt last night, the suspended Dave Roberts and
Mike Shilt, which we'll get to in a second, I've
already come to terms with the fact that Mets are

(01:37):
never going to win again. So I'm okay, I'm okay.
I'm expecting a loss every day for now till the
end of the season. Pitcher's gonna get hurt every day.
We're gonna lose every day, and that's how the season's
gonna go. So I've accepted it. Mike Carmon, You're never
gonna beat the streak. I mean, all of these things
come together in one giant conflagration of chaos. Yeah, Seing,

(02:00):
I got to find out the word right off. You did.
It's pretty good. Yeah, I love that word conflagration. But
I mean, did you make a deal with the devil
about a week ago? I mean something happened that suddenly
it all just went to hell? No, what playing the
Dodgers that if I mad into your heads, if I
made a deal with the devil, I'd have something positive
to show for it. No, no, no, But did you make
it for the Jets? Did you make it for a

(02:23):
nicks Hire that wasn't Doc Rivers? I mean, there are
a lot of different variables into this equation of eternal
damnation that you may may have signed up for, maybe
unwittingly too. Maybe you added donut no it is ill gotten,
donut forever be on your head. If that was the case,
I would be definitely chest or cat grinning it along,

(02:45):
going I know something you don't know. I'm just I'm
really at the fact that, okay, they're never gonna win again,
they're gonna lose again. That it was a five game
lead about a week and a half ago and now
they're going to be trailing the Phillies by a game
going into tomorrow would have just been a lot of
pain until whatever it I mean, because look, you just
have to go. I mean, you can build pull the
full job here right, it's misery, misery, misery, and then

(03:08):
you get salvation in the end. Whereas here in this
so you met like Joe Bluth, you mean you mean
job actually like from the body, No, no, no, I mean,
but just always remember, like with the Lakers, situation. People
were always wondering, you know how they operated. The money
was actually in the banana stand. Yeah, and you have
other ancillary incomes. It was all there the whole time.

(03:30):
Come on, a guy at a five thousand dollars met
T shirt, Come on. Uh, I went over, I went
through my Dave Roberts phase of being upset and now
just accepted that, Okay, we're just never gonna win again. Yeah,
a lot of saltiness still flowing out of last night, buddy. Yeah,
we saw that. You look the big headline in the
last hour and a half. Look, we spent the last
hour of the show on this last night because it

(03:51):
was an insane end of the Padres Dodgers series. Uh,
you saw show hey get hit in the ninth inning
to tease get hit in the ninth inning. Eight hit
by pitches over the course of the Dodger Padre series,
which is the best rivalry outside of Ohio State Michigan
in all of sports, Robert Suarez got three games and

(04:12):
both managers got suspended. They were both serving their suspensions tonight,
so Dave Roberts will not be managing the team tonight.
Neither will Padres manager Mike shilt, and I really think,
you know, I hope things don't cool off because I
really want to see these guys go out at in August,
they ran at each other in bub stomachs before Dave
Roberts yelled at him, going, yeah, when it come kicked

(04:34):
that ass. I mean, that's exactly what he was saying.
I thought we were gonna see, you know what, an
over fifty fight. I thought that we were as close
to happening well. And then Roberts did the old day
hold me back, No, really hold me back. They kind
of both did. They kind of were both all the
string of string. I was like a Syracuse parking lot
at that two fifteen when you when I used to

(04:55):
watch tears get settled in my younger days, Hey, these
guys are gonna fight, let's go out and watch. And
then he said, oh, you don't want no beef. Uh.
But all of that, you know last night, I mean,
the Suarez thing was absurd. Three to zero count on
Otani and then hits him up in between the shoulders.
And you know, Otani is the not only I mean,

(05:15):
he's peacemaker. He should take the helmet from John Cena
and just pick up season two of that series. Sorry, Sea,
you're out. They can't see anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Just reshoot the scenes with Otani because he told the
Dodgers to calm down, went over and smiled real pretty
and told the Padres in no uncertain terms, beat it.

(05:35):
Let's stop the It stopped the insanity. But you know
every Padres guy got to a microphone as fast as
he could to call out Dodger fans and call out
the Dodgers and Dave Roberts and you name it. I'm
just so glad all my candles I lit last night
for worked. Hey, you better, you better like those candles

(05:56):
man after he got hit in the hand, look, because
I mean that was that was a scary moment. You know,
folks want to say, yeah, you understand whatever you say,
You don't. All I wonder about the Padres, Yeah, you
know I was. I was going to the baseball loving
world as a whole because we need them to stay good.
Frostburg and come on, he's a terrible person. I'm just

(06:23):
upset that we couldn't extend this series to tonight, Like
come on, man, you can't can't go four games at
eight hit by pitches and It ends with Tatis and
Otani hitting each other and then Robertson shilt bumping each
other like it's a reality show where Okay, you dress
up with with tires around you and you got to
knock the other person off to you know, to get
a you know, a meal for the night or whatever.

(06:45):
It is like that. They're run. They're in those little
roller balls that they do now where you're you're spun
down a hill. Okay to wear this challenge for your team.
If you knock the other person down, you win a
meal for the night. The other team losing doesn't get
to eat. Eat. Okay, here we go. What's the meal?
It's grubs? Grubs? Everybody, lion k coming to the theater

(07:07):
here you you mean grubhub delivers no grubs different, different
things from grubub. Different from grubhub. Yeah, different. Well, I
mean they may still sponsor and deliver said grubs, but no,
it's actual grubs. Yeah you are getting Grubhub. Oh but
it's actual grubs. Oh boy, I don't know if they
deliver those. I mean, yeah, like they might eats. I mean,

(07:29):
you know, everybody's got a price. But I mean Tatis
getting hit and obviously Frostburg echoing and bringing back at
the twenty twenty two suspension for ped use. His inability
to get out of the way or turn his back
to take that one you know in the rib cage
is also on him. But got hit in the hand.

(07:51):
Got had an anxious moment, which is why there was still, uh,
you know, the the issues that we had with Oughtani
getting hit. At the end, He's like, yeah, well you
hit our star, We're gonna hit yours again. I mean,
they here we go. I need I need to see
Dave Roberts and Mike Shilt. I need to see it.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I know.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Now we get seven weeks of a gestation' that's too
long gestation though, it's gonna feel like what it's like
leading up to the Tyson Paul fight, which I'm like,
oh my god, I don't care about this, but yet
I'm notting bombarded with it every day. This at least
i'd look forward to. Now. Dave Roberts has a pretty
clean and easy signature. You could start sending letters in
his name, allegedly to Mike Shilt to keep the fires burning.

(08:33):
Dear Mike, meet me outside in ten minutes. Dave, all right,
I'm outside. Where are you? Where are you?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
The calls coming from inside the building? Oh no, uh
so uh Dodgers getting action in a few minutes without
Dave Roberts tonight and Mike Shilt, big problem so far
from the padres they trail the Royals one nothing in
the bottom of the second inning. But look a big
Friday tonight. We got a big look head. We had

(09:00):
two big Bowl predictions coming your way in a few minutes.
But today is a really big day. Like it feels like, okay,
everybody's out of school now. It's just about everybody is
out of school, whether you had your last week this week,
and here everybody's getting ready, getting their summer plans and
in place. And here we are today the biggest summer blockbuster,
the movie that is given credit for, uh basically ushering

(09:24):
in the modern era of filmmaking. Jaws turns fifty today.
Fifty years ago today, Jaws was released in theaters. And
you know, it really is amazing. You know, I mean,
you've heard the stories over the years. The shark didn't
really work, we couldn't use it as much and because
it and you know, how does it hold up now?
Over the last few years. It's a shark really look real. Yeah,

(09:46):
that shark looked better in Jaws one than it did
in any of the subsequent films. Well, because the there's
a shark got beat up more by the time you
get to four, Like Rocky and Rocky four. He wasn't
quite the same boxer. He wasn't well. But they put
no money into the shark there after. Now, no, no, Yeah,
Bruce was at his best, even non functional in the
first one. Hey, no spoilers. Oh sorry, I mean, and

(10:09):
you talk about that being a divine moment because the
movie is as good as it is because you don't
see the shark as much until the end of the movie.
I said, no spoilers. It's just I didn't say what
happens to the shark. I didn't say. I didn't say
what Joe Thornton is actually riding the shark. So there
you go. That's what happened at the other the movie nicely,
you know, and it ramps up the anxiety of the

(10:31):
movie because it's this big shark that you just kind
of see and was a whole different way to make
movies and that, oh, here's a big threat that can
just hang over the movie and then you give it
to everybody at the end. It's like, oh my goodness. Yeah,
and you've seen that be in a very popular characteristic
of movies over the over the past fifty years. But
like Jaws is the first one to do that. And really,

(10:53):
you know, the era of movies is divided into into
two parts, the pre nineteen seventy five era and nineteen
seventy five an after because this was what ushered in
the big blockbuster. This is when we started getting blockbuster
movies in the summer. People go to the movies all
the time, and movies started to get more adventurous and
more outlandish and not just the big sweeping seventies thrillers

(11:16):
and tear jerkers and comedies that were only could be
really really smart, and you know, that was what he
Allen did comedies, and that was it, Like it was
a very much different world of movies. And then Jaws
ushered in this entire modern era with the blockbuster that
I think is more of its its lasting impact on
movies because hey, Jaw's great blockbuster. You could talk about

(11:38):
summer blockbusters that you've seen in big movies of the
past and what they've made in action movies. But this
was the first one that said, okay, we have a
whole new era of movies that we judge for fifty
years because of Jaws. No, it's it's it's brilliance at
every turn. A Robert Shaw. You know, what was his
temperament on a given day?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know, obviously he in the bottle had battles. Richard
Dreyfus also a guy not not exactly warm and fuzzy.
He's gotten better with things over the years. He actually
appears in a shark movie that just premiered in the
streaming world here in the last month, talking about old
days and whatever and battles with sharks. How about that?

(12:18):
But you know, and then obviously Roy Scheider did more
than just tap dance because he was in you know,
all those other all that jazz and everything else. But
it's the perfect movie. And then you got, you know,
the the mayor gets re elected spoiler alert, Yes, somehow.
I mean, I could make a bunch of one liners,

(12:39):
you could pick whoever you want politically to have that.
But it's not, you know, it's not it's not a
perfect movie. It's oh yeah, we can't close the beach
because look at these seventy five people that are here
on the beach. You're not making money on the beach.
It's vendors are making kavs. You could have closed the
beach if you wanted to. Now you'd have hot dog
vendors out there in the whole nine yards. I mean,

(13:00):
you'd have all the but I mean they didn't have
the budget to go pick because they had to keep
paying for Bruce trying to get into work. Where are you?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Hurry it up?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
So don't wait for me. Hooper drives the boat. Come
down here and shovel some of this. Hooper drives the boat. Chief. Yeah,
I watched it again today. It had a nice introduction
from Spielberg as well. Oh nice, Okay, yeah, no, it's
pretty good. It's, uh, you know, one of those let's
promote it as broughte the hell out of a theme parks.

(13:44):
They're doing a bunch of you know, photo ops and
all of that. Uh, and then obviously popcorn buckets being
all the rage. Uh, you got to have a bunch
of those. So yeah, selling the hell out of it.
But you know it's still one of those that that
get you. Oh it's ninety seven on rotten tomatoes. I
want to know who the three percent of dopes are
they voted about against it just because it's the make

(14:07):
it the makers of of all the other shark movies
that didn't make it's the people who made Orca. Remember
when they tried was pretty good with Orca. After No,
we're gonna do it about a killer whale. Oh, it's
not gonna make any money. I think people did Free Willie.
That probably is uh people at the negative reviews as well.
What was the one with all the sharks and Sam
Jackson not Deep impacted Deep? Was it Deep? Michael Rapaport, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(14:36):
they were all the sharks. They were trying to all
the and they were trying to make them really smart.
What's his name? Sam Jackson? In the Big Thing, We're
Gonna stick Together and nobody's got Oh wow, Deep Blue
Deep you had because you had ll cool J with
the title song deep My Head is like a shark
fin Yeah, it was great. He had his bird Thomas.

(14:58):
It was Cary Whirr was in that right from MTV
Remote Control. Wasn't she in Deep Blue Sea? No? No, no,
she was an anaconda. Oh that is like a Saffron Burrows.
You know what I always stelling scars gard I mean
one of the greatest of all time. Yeah, yeah, well
because one was movie about a big snake in the river.
This was I don't know that they care so much
about Jaws. No, it's about the other Shark movies. Yeah.

(15:19):
Now Anacon is coming back, I mean in pog form.
But like you got all of that. It's just brilliant, right,
I mean, sorry, Thomas Jane was the was the other actor.
I conflated him with what's his name? Eckhart? But no,
it's good. It's it's it's a classic shark movie. Uh,

(15:40):
feel good summer blockbuster, except for the little kid because
you knew. Uh, But I mean it's got one of
the greatest opens ever. Yeah. And who knew that two
notes could could launch a franchise and billions of dollars
of commerce. I mean, come on, it's a man, it's
an amazing To end, we have a big hot take
coming up for Game seven the NBA Finals and also

(16:02):
coming up next you want a big hot take on
Jaws and the Jaws legacy. This is a hot take
on the Jaws legacy in the modern era of movies.
I'm telling you you're gonna say, WHOA, what the hell
are you saying? Oh wow, I really see your point.
I really see your point on that. Oh boy, it's
coming up next. Jason Smith Mike harmon Fox Sports Radio.

(16:28):
We are broadcasting live on Friday, Jaws turns fifty. That's
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(18:08):
a couple of minutes. But you know this, this is something
we've kind of danced in a little bit earlier. It's
at some point in the show in the last couple
of years, but you know, it makes sense to talk
about this today with the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws, and
everybody's getting ready to go to the movies this weekend,
probably go see twenty eight years later? Did you wind
up going seeing it last night? No? No, no, well

(18:29):
we had an early soccer game out in Norcoast, so
I put the kibosh on it. I got it. May
see it over the weekend. I might go see How
to Train Your Dragon again. I don't know. We'll say, okay,
they'd beare, Hey there's that adult all by himself in
the theater again to watch Out to Drain. Hey no, no, no,

(18:49):
it's still doing big box office. Okay, all right, no,
it's okay. Look, fiftieth anniversary of Jaws and its legacy
is really birthing the modern era of movies, right, you can,
you can. You can break up the history of movies
into into two time periods, from nos Feraitu to nineteen
seventy five to Jaws, and then Jaws to where we

(19:10):
are right now. Because not the terrible nest noos Ferantu
that came out last year. No, no, no, no, no, the one
was that way back in the beginning. Yeah, all the
way back like in nineteen eight whatever. It was like,
you know, the eight minute film of nos Feratu with
no you know words or anything. No, it was a
good one. I will I will tell you this. If
you want to talk about the best movie of the
modern era of lou Yeah, let's go go back to

(19:32):
ninete so nineteen seventy five and after and you know,
it's it's a conversation I've had my wife and I
have this on once in a while, have this conversation
and it really is hard for me to say anything
other than and look, I have my favorite movies of
the last fifty years. I you know, look almost famous
in Caddy Shack and on Top Gun and all the
ways we talk about. But if I'm good, if I'm

(19:53):
going to ted last, Oh, this is the best song.
This is my favorite song. The best movie of the
modern era is Back to the Future. Now you think
about you think what I mean what? The movie has
absolutely everything you would want in a movie. It has
great acting. It's got great action, comedy. The writing is terrific.

(20:14):
They teach a course on it. I think at usc
about it's a perfect screenplay, Like this is how you
write a screenplay. It's got drama, it's just man, it's
got thrills. It's the soundtrack is phenomenal. Like anything this
movie you want out of a movie, Back to the
Future has, it's got one liners, it's got it's got
I mean, I know, I've seen the movie over a
hundred times, and still the scene at the end when

(20:36):
he's trying to plug it into the you know, plug
in the clock tower, so Marty Kennet eighty eight miles
an hour on the street, it's still it's still so thrilling.
It's I mean again, I've seen it a hundred times
at least, and it's that movie that just it's got
something for everybody. Whatever you like in a movie, it
is there. It's like, hey, Purple Rain is probably the
greatest album in the last fifty years. It's got something

(20:58):
for everybody. It's got a great rock song, it's got
a great ballad, it's got a great top forty song,
it's got a it's got one of the best dance
songs out there, it's got experimental, it's got everything you want. Right.
This is Back to the Future that literally has everything
you would want in a movie. Like I don't know
how they were able to exceed on all of those levels,

(21:19):
to have that all in one movie, because certain movie that. Hey,
our movies funnier the Back to the Future. Yeah, our
movie is a little bit more thrilling than Back to
the Future. Yeah. Is acting in some movies better than
back Yeah, but nobody does all of that in a
movie better than Back to the Future does outside of
clips and reenactments at the theme park. I don't know

(21:40):
that I've watched Back to the Future in about twenty years.
Uh yeah, now Nightly Entertainment. No, it's I mean, look,
I've probably watched Jaws the one hundred times that you've mentioned.
I know I've I've watched The Blues Brothers forty five
years ago. To Well, you're from Chicago, you kind of
have to. Well, but I mean, you talk soundtrack whatever else.

(22:01):
I do concede that, you know, we did find that sound.
Marvin did get us that sound we needed for rock
and roll. So we have that UCLA Dodger Frank reminds
us that we also have twenty eight years ago today,
Batman and Robin. You want to talk about great one line?
Come on, maybe, I know you can't. You can't ruin it.
You can't ruin Hey, one of the greatest movies incentive
by throwing out Batman and no no wait wait, no man, Frank,

(22:23):
no no, no, I got I got a lot of
this together. Right. We talked about Deep Blue Sea, which
had Thomas Jane in it. Thomas Jane also starred in
another movie that included sharks that is referenced in Jaws.
That was the USS Indianapolis, starring Nicholas Cage. Okay, so
we get that in Boom Boom and also had Mario
van Peebles and Tom Sizemore. That's got an eighteen percent

(22:46):
on Rotten Tomatoes. But I also mentioned, say eighteen percent
eighteen one of my favorite films. Nineteen eighty nine also
gave us the Superhero movie and that's Batman. I mean, yeah,
you had Superman and Christopher, but that that was a
decade prior, right, I mean, we just commemorated the release
of Superman two. But what was on that soundtrack? Yeah,

(23:07):
that's right, soundtrack was released on this day all those
years ago, Prince. Because party Man was a damn jam
by the way, Blues Brothers the Vulture ev the great
video and then when he was roller skating around with
the Batman outfit, that was cool. That was black Brothers
could make when you could make songs like that, where
it's us, we're just gonna have music and we're gonna

(23:29):
just play like record scratch lines from the movie. Oh
and that's a song. Yeah, we put that out great,
no one's gonna sing it. Just get a Prince go
Batman and then we're just gonna play Vicky Vail saying something.
And Michael Keaton said, and that's a song, and it's
a it's a top of the charts for a good
couple of months. That that's what we can put that
out there. That's a song. I see the future and
it will be. By the way, the Blues Brothers, you

(23:50):
also had the subplot that they could have done a
whole movie around with the carry Fisher subplot. Well, now
I wanted to see what happened to the good old
Blues Boys brother's band. We could have done we could
have done a spin off of them. I mean, we
had all sorts of stuff. By the way, it's John
Goodman's birthday, who later was in Yeah, that's right, Blues
Brothers two thousand, let's go. You can't, dude, you can't

(24:10):
talk about these movies and then give me the awful
sequels that are out there. Yeah, but look at how
I wrapped it all in a big hug. I'm hey,
remember Back to the Future two and three, how great
they were. Come on, man, I'm not No, you're ruining
the sanctity of those movies by saying, oh, yeah, Blues
Brothers two thousands, who can't forget Joe Morton and and
whoever else was in that. I mean Joe Morton, who

(24:31):
was later part of a Batman movie. So it all works.
We also have the don't don't forget Rocky four. I mean,
if we're if we're gonna go down that not one,
two or three, but the fourth one, fourth one, the
fourth one. Yeah. Uh so hey, there you go. I mean,
like a modern era of movies. Hey, I'm like that
guy in the college campus with the change my Back

(24:53):
to the Future best movie in the modern era of
the last fifty years, changed my mind. That's what I
feel I feel like we should do. I mean, this
is one that's perfect for a pole question or for phonees. Sure, hey, hey,
but let's put up the pole question. We'll put that
up there. We'll get okay, uh, time out to find
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Speaker 4 (25:20):
That did have a lot, including the music. I'm glad
you brought up there.

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Everything clear and had everything. Keey Lewis rules.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Sure did the Mets have anything tonight? They things were
going so well.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
There was no baseball tonight, Steven, if you know that
baseball was canceled tonight, Philly, here's a home run from Costianos.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, and another ten. Two Phillies over the Mets. Is
the final thirteen hits for Philadelphia. The Cardinals had beaten
the Red six to one, Marlin's a six to two
winner against the Braves. White Sox were seven to one
winners at the Blue Jays today Seattle a nine to
four winner at the Cubs. Is cal Raley had two
more homers. He has twenty nine this year. The Yankees

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have been beaten at home. Orioles beat him with two
in the top of the eight, five to three the final.
Even though Aaron Judge had three hits, including a home
run his twenty seventh of the season. The Rangers and
Jacob de Grom won six to two at Pittsburgh. In
the late games, Nationals leading the Dodgers and Clayton Kershaw
won nothing. Royals have an early home run at San

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Diego won nothing over the Padres, now top of the
fourth and yes, Fernando Tatist Junior is playing despite being
hit by pitch last night. As for the managers, they're
not participating tonight. San Diego's Mike Shield, LA's Dave Roberts
getting one game suspensions after what happened last night. Late
in the game in La Padres, closer Robert Suarez was

(26:41):
suspended three games for hitting shoe Atani on purpose. He
has appealed. In the WNBA, Dallas was two and eleven,
but gotta win at Connecticut eighty six eighty three, Page
Beckers twenty one points. Connecticut now two and eleven. NBA
Finals Game seven will be Sunday, Indiana at Oklahoma City.
The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday. The Stanley Cup Final

(27:01):
average just two and a half million viewers on TNT
plus three point eight million in Canada. US Man soccer
plays again Sunday on Fox TV against Haiti Scottie Scheffler
is tied for the lead at the Travelers, as is
Justin Thomas, who shot a second round sixty four. Jason
Day is one shot back in Connecticut. And as far

(27:22):
as the Brewers game tonight, this rookie for Milwaukee, Jacob
Misserowski and his second major league start through six perfect
innings and then allowed a lead off walk at Minnesota
and a home run in the seventh, So in his
big league career he's actually allowed a hit now. But yes,
it is still a lead for the Milwaukee Brewers, eight

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to two at Minnesota in the top of the eighth.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve the Jason smithz Row
is Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
All right, so now we're looking ahead to Game seven,
which we get Sunday, finally, mercifully, the NBA season is
about to come to an end, and everybody's looking forward
to the draft because we'll all get back on the board,
maybe the nixill hire or coach. We had NBA free
agency coming up and a week or two after that,

(28:07):
which could see a lot of big names moved. It's
kind of like it's weird. We kind of have to
get past the pesky finals to get to where Okay,
now we're all back in right. Like it's like when
you go go to someone's house to play poker and
they say, we're having a big pokernight. All right, great,
and there's like fifteen people there and there's like two
tables and you're playing, uh, you're playing no limit texas
hold them and as the games go on, okay, and
all right, well, one person gets a limited limit and

(28:28):
then like the people on the couch hanging out talking
are just waiting for the game to end because it's
down to two people, and you're like, okay, can we
do this week and start another game? And we're all
just sitting around waiting for you two to somehow finish
this and it takes forever because the pre people want
to win, and then you wind up having to split
the pot. All right, it's one of the things Hey
we want to get and then okay, hey it's over,
bool everybody gets back in. Like that's where we're at
right now. We're waiting to get back in, waiting. But

(28:51):
just that, like that all those teams that had been
vanquished and we're on the boat all those uh weeks ago.
Suddenly they have relevant. Suddenly guys are gonna get that
uncomfortable call from their agent. By the way, you're getting
packaged and you're getting sent to Sacramento. Who is it
is today? My birthday is today? Come on, guys, come on,

(29:13):
that's fun kid around like that. That's not funny man.
All right, well I'll be out. Well, Mike Brown's are
pretty Oh no, he's oh oh wow, okay. Uh. But
going into game seven, I said from the beginning the
way these games are gonna go five, six and seven,
home home, home, Thunder win Game seven. This is where

(29:34):
shay Gilgess Alexander has a Yannis twenty twenty one Game
six like performance in the championship game right, I said
earlier in this series, he's got to come out and
go for forty in this next game and put the
team on his shoulders. He did. He actually went for
thirty five, but he scored the last thirteen points. This
is gonna be one of those nights where, yes, a

(29:56):
guy that's averaging over thirty points in the NBA playoffs,
this people to ever do it. He's gonna go for
fifty on Sunday against the Pacers. Free throws will be
twenty out of twenty two from the line. Fifty points
for SGA as they win the title. The Thunder win
big and he puts a big exclamation point on the season.

(30:17):
He's got it in him. I kind of feel like
we're still waiting for the for him to explode, even
though he's had a great NBA Finals. He's scoring thirty
thirty five a game, and we're kind of feel like
we're waiting for him to explode and have that big
trademark game to win it all. He is due for
an all timer. We're due for an All timer. SGA
goes for fifty on Sunday in Game seven. Wow looking pooh,

(30:39):
Yeah that'd be Friday. See, you know picked him before
this series right to win in six. The no show
just really kind of frankly pisses me off, Like I'm
still mad about Game six and that lack of effort
just and I'm not letd to go. So I hope
they both lose because I don't want Haliburton to win
either from his no show on Game five. So right

(31:02):
now I'm hoping for a push, well not in the
betting markets, because that's just not good for anybody minus eight,
minus nine, depending on when you're getting in on your okay,
ce love there. I'd love to see Sga do it
with that kind of kind of proficiency because it'll drive
everybody nuts. Since he only hits a couple of threes
every once in a while, this would be all mid

(31:25):
range and free throws, which is what the everybody's told
us doesn't work in the NBA, so maybe everybody does.
You know, it hits the brakes really hard and decides
to rebuild, restructure, retool things going forward. I'll take the
thunder to win, and I don't think you're getting the
heroics there. I think this is where some of your
secondary cast dials things in. But I will say you

(31:48):
can just make your bold prediction now he'll have more
field goals made than turnovers on like game six. Oh,
I thought you're gonna say he'll have more He'll have
more field goals made than free throws, which I don't know.
I don't know. No, there's no chance it's gonna be
a twenty free throw kind of night, There is no
question about it. It will be a march to immortality

(32:09):
for Shay Gilgess Alexander. He's at home, He's gonna get
to the line the bench. What look, the support players
will play better, right, the entire the entire game six
strategy went out the window early. Well, I mean when
when TJ McConnell out rebounded Isaiah Hartenstein for that ball
in the second quarter, I knew they had quit and
they were done right, So you know, they know they

(32:31):
laid an egg and they let the Pacers play the game.
The Pacers have wanted to play the whole series. This
is gonna be a different story. They have always rebounded,
They've always bounced back. I said it was going set.
Nothing has changed my mind. Everything is going according to plan.
But give me that big time Sunday Wow, all time
great performance. We'll compare it. Hey, what was better SGA

(32:51):
in a clinching game? Yan is in a clinching game
because he was like I think he had like fifteen
rebounds in that game that yann has had what he
scored when they won it in twenty twenty one. So yeah, no,
I'm all in on SGA having an all time performance
on Sunday. Well he owes he owes America. Well yeah, yeah,
everybody who voted for him for MVP, because now they're going,
maybe I should have voted for TJ McConnell for MVP.

(33:14):
Maybe he's the real guy. No, and then I mean
Jalen Williams. Everybody was trying to coronate and raise him
up to some level. Even Scotty Pippa's like, what are
we doing? What are we doing? Like it's not quite
the Brady or Jordan thing, but it's damn close when
we're talking about decorated historical figures in these games, like, hey,

(33:38):
let's compare this guy. Has he wont anything yet? No,
he went for forty. What do you do the next
night he went for minus forty and his plus minus.
I don't think you go for minas far. I think
he gets saddled with a minus forty. Well, you know
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Who runs heady? Two more guys running sign by sign
those what turn of the pint? That's how bad the
Mets are. The Phillies score twice at the same time
that show Apple TV on the call, Yes, the Phillies
part of what was it? Twenty six to two today. Uh,
I don't like it. The Mets are just not going

(35:34):
to win again. They're they're just not going to win again. Mike,
you know what, we no longer have to hear ever again?
What's that point? Who has the best record in the
National League? That is true? Oh no, no, no, no,
now that would be the Dodgers. You can't sit here
and say it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter again this
year when fortune favors you, you decide to say, oh,
he gets who is the best?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
No, it either matters or it doesn't. But you gotta
pick a lane. You gotta pick alate. It either matters,
it does. It's over. I mean right now, it matters.
I mean no, no, no, no, no, pick a lane.
You're asking him to make a steps judgment right now,
so obviously, I mean his opinion could have changed. Oh no, no,
I'm just gonna get over. I'm just gonna say what

(36:16):
you have to go. It's June. It's because the Mets.
It's a series. No longer know what there's I celebrate championships.
It's a series in June. There is evidently a series
something you can point to that caused the Mets to
start flailing as they did. Look, I keep going back
to blowing that four to one lead in the eighth
inning a week ago, the first game against the Rays.

(36:38):
It's been take from a week agos not making the playoffs.
That's gonna be That's good, No, it is. It is aging. Well,
but you know, based on the recent circumstance. But evidently
Mike Francis met Frank the Tank and was hanging out
with him last last week and they haven't won since. Oh, okay,
so it's a Frank Frank the Tank's fault. Okay, Well,

(36:59):
I want to try I always want to try to.
I'll blame him too, I always want to try to
find blame. It's got to be somebody else's fault. That's
not my own. So I like that. Well, you're you
chose the Mets your fault. I'm digging it, man, I'm
digging it. You did it, you made it a lifetime
and said, you know, pity me. I'm a white so
I'm a white Sox fan. So what you look, who's taking?
But all that, you know, the deal with the devil,

(37:20):
whatever it is, I can't wait to see it come
to fruition, whatever that payoff is for you in your
sporting universe. I'm so digging that may. It's all everybody
else's fault, not me. Uh Now. The biggest story of
the week in the NBA, and and something that sent
shockwaves through because nobody really knew it was coming, was
obviously the sale of the Lakers for ten billion dollars
to Mark Walter, who owns part of the Dodgers as well.

(37:44):
What's going to happen next? Right, Everyone's no what's gonna
happen now? Mark Walter is in, Jeanie Buss is staying
on as governor for an indetermined amount of time. All Right,
I'll be able to tell you what's gonna happen next.
And Frostburg doesn't deserve this, but I'm gonna give it
to him. First of all, this is going to be
the last time owners don't buy teams to let somebody
else run the team. Okay, if that doesn't happen, But

(38:05):
Mark Walter wants to get used to the NBA. He
wants to come in and douce Walter, Okay, And maybe
that was part of the h Maybe that was part
of the deal, is that Genie Bus gets to be
on for a little while. And kind of ride off
into the sunset whatever kind of tour she wants to have.
But she's not gonna be around more than a year,
all right. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised the next
season finishes very quietly Genie bus walks away, or it's

(38:28):
announced at some point, because again, people don't buy teams
to have other other people run them, right, especially someone
that already owns the team. How awkward is that? This
sounds like it's something that's pr that was put in
the contract. It's probably gonna be a year and that's it. Now.
The best news for the Lakers, as I will tell
you this, he's not gonna come in here. New ownership
doesn't come in and say, well, we want to see

(38:50):
how things go for a little while. No, no, no,
Not with Lebron James nearing the end of a window
where he can win, Not with Luka doncic here and
the excitement that you have. He's gonna come in and
I'll tell you what two things are gonna happen, because
I went when when the sale was made, I said,
this could be good news for the Lakers because maybe
they're they're new. It's gonna be a new way of
doing things. They will probably spend more money. It's not

(39:12):
gonna be run mom and pop wise. Uh you know,
maybe it's gonna be good for the Lakers that they're
sold and they're gonna come in with a bang and
I'll give you this. I'll give you this Mike Breen
double bang off of here. Number one. Luca gets his
extension this summer. He gets his he gets his three
year extension with the Lakers this summer, and they go
out and spend on another star or big roster editions.

(39:34):
They make a splash. Mark Walter is not gonna wade
in and dip his tone into the water and see
what the temperature is and wait it all out. Uh uh.
They're gonna come in. They're gonna say Luca is our guy.
They're gonna go get the guys they want to and say,
let's go with this championship window because they understand, look,
how many more years is Lebron gonna be the guy
he is. Let's go let's do it now, and then

(39:54):
the year after this they'll get money back because Lebron
will probably retire or go play somewhere else. So it's
not like all of a sudden they're stuck with all
this money. They get out of Lebron after but they
will go out this year Luca gets that extension and
they go get another star player or big additions to
help them win. They spend a lot. Well, I'm working
on getting my PhD to understand this Kakamami system that

(40:16):
they have about aprons and caps and what's what's fuzzy math,
because they're thirty million dollars over the cap if Finney
Smith and Lebron James opt in. So now now you've
got to start playing having fun with numbers. And then
they still have to figure out how to get back
that hundred million for Luca off the books that the

(40:36):
Mavericks stole from him by giving him away. Yeah, well,
I mean you well, we'll solve one problem at a time.
There's one problem there. Look at Luca's gonna be there
a long long time. It's okay, right, Luke, if you're
really if you want to be NBA owner rich, you're
gonna have to wait a couple more years, Okay. Just
it's just fun because you have the all right, who

(40:56):
is that basketball executive that rivals what they did with
Andrew Friedman and that brain trust. Just the Lakers will
get big splashes this offseason and Luca's extension is going
to be at the top of it. Exit out by
the Fresco Exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith, Mike Carmon Coming
up next, we get back into the biggest controversial topic

(41:16):
that doesn't seem like it's going away in Major League Baseball. Fox.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (41:35):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. I'm an as man true, So happy
fiftieth anniversary to Jaws. Right the ushering in the era
of the modern cinema. Right movies can be broken up
into two categories, the era before nineteen seventy five now

(41:57):
the modern era, which Jaws birth blockbuster, Jaws turning fifty
years old today now last hour in the show gave
a big hot take for the weekend. Think about this
in the modern era since Jaws Blockbuster, you know birth
that era best movie of the last fifty years. I
gave it to you. Back to the future everything you
want in it, acting, writing, drama, comedy, memorable one liners, thrills,

(42:23):
great soundtrack, everything you would want in a movie. Back
to the Future gives you other movies have. Other movies
are funnier, wees have a little more rag, but nothing
does everything as well as Back to the Future. And
now someone joins us with a bone to pick on
that topic. He is longtime NBA insider friend of the show.

(42:43):
You can fall him on Twitter at the Steinline. Check
him out on substack. It is Mark Stein. Happy Friday, man,
How are you listen. I'm trying to get work done here.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
We got a game seven coming up. Yeah, the whole
league is wait on a Kevin Durant trade. The draft
is in a.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Matter of days.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I live in Cooper Flag's New City. It's Friday night.
I'm tethered to the desk, just trying to publish, publish
my story, get some work done. And then you guys
are start tweeting about the best movie of all time
since nineteen seventy five, and you just threw off my
whole workflow and I had to call in.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
All right, We'll go ahead, my friend the floor fult
since jawsin seventy five. What do you got?

Speaker 3 (43:32):
The answer is nineteen eighty two's Rocky three. And that
is the end of the discussion.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Lumber Laying Thunderlips. I mean, you got a lot, There's
no question about it. I think I probably watched that
nearly one hundred times.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah, it is one of those movies at the minute,
the second you accidentally find it as you're flipping through
the channels. Whatever you had to be, whatever you were
doing is scrap, and you must watch the whole thing.
You incredible villain, incredible story. I mean, it's the best,

(44:10):
it's the best. It's it's the best of the Rocky movies.
I will die on that hill. And it is if
if if the time frame is nineteen seventy five until now,
there's your winner. I've settled it for you. I'll go
off back to the we can go back to the
NBA playoffs now.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
But when we were talking about the birth of the
blockbuster coming out of Jaws, I mean this also gave
us the lead in for WrestleMania one. I mean, so
we've got all of that. Yeah, there you go. Culture
never the same. I remember being so scared of me.
I was like, I was ten years old. I remember
being it's like, oh my god, this mister t is
so scary. Then I found out later in life always

(44:46):
like five six, Oh okay, but he was here's scary.
He was so stiffy.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
First it is the first movie I ever went to
the cinema without parental supervision, and it was it was
like it was and it was life changing. I did
not see to that point. I had not seen the
first two. And I watched that and became a lifelong

(45:15):
addict of the whole Rocky franchise, Creed franchise. I mean
it just that was a that was a life changing
trip to the theater in nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
So you jumped right in and in the middle said,
who's this guy coming to help? Rockies? Named Apollo? Who
is this guy? Why is he coming to help?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I was mesmerized instantly. To this day, there is an
Apollo Creed doll in my office over my shoulder. Almost
every word I type, I'm looking at it right, look
at him going at it right now?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
All right? All right? So here, So here's so you
had Rocky three or may not have the thunderlips cape
Mark tweet out a picture of that Apollo Creed doll.
Can you do that? And when we're done, you just
tweet out a picture behind.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
I think I've done that before. In fact, when like
I said, Carl Weather's playing Apollo Creed, I mean just
I loved that character beyond words. And when we lost
Carl Weathers, I wrote a whole story. I've written multiple
stories just about my my love of the Rocky franchise,
but I wrote I wrote a whole tribute to him.

(46:21):
I will try to find it because, like I said,
I definitely put a picture of it in that story
if I remember right, so I will. I will try
to find it.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
That is awesome. Mark Stein on the board with Rocky three. Wow.
So okay. So now it is it disappointing to have
to get back to the NBA Finals after this? Or
are you okay getting back to the NBA Final? I
mean no, I was just mad.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
I was just really mad at you guys for I mean,
just like like I'm trying to concentrate, and I mean,
I mean, I can't believe that Rocky three wasn't the
automatic answer. But now that we've sorted that out, I
think we can get back on course and start talking
about Game seven.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
All right, so what do you see now going into
Game seven? I went after after the first couple of games,
I thought, this is gonna You're gonna see point counterpoint,
and teams are going to be able to counterbalance from
game to game. You're going to see adjustments. I see
Oklahoma City on Sunday. What do you see on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Well, look, I think people would point to the Denver
series and say, remember how good OKAC looked in that
Game seven. But I feel like at this point this
thing is all bets off. I mean, nobody knows what's
going to happen. I mean, the home team is fifteen
and four all time in Game seven, but this Indiana team, like, look,

(47:35):
they're one win away from what would be the most
improbable championship that we've ever seen in the NBA. I'm
not going to try to judge it against the other
leagues and you know, because it's too hard to do that.
But in look in the NBA, you know, the Rockets
won it as a number six seed, but they were
they were defending champions, and they traded for Clyde Drexler

(47:57):
at mid season. The first NBA season that I really
remember being locked to locked into as a kid. Seventy
seven seventy eight, that was a That was the year
I truly became an you know, an NBA fan really
following it. Washington won it all with a with only
they were only forty four and thirty eight, but the

(48:19):
league was in such a different place, and really Portland
was your defending champion. They were fifty to ten when
Bill Walton got hurt, they were overwhelmingly the best team
in the league. They lose Walton and you know it
throws the playoffs open and yeah, okay, so a forty
four win team winning a championship. I mean that is

(48:40):
crazy on paper. But again, where the NBA was in
seventy seven seventy eight, to compare the you know where
it is the stature that the league has now. If
the Pacers can win one more we have never seen
anything like this, if the Pacers, if the Pacers can
win one more game. Look, it is an extremely tall
order to go into OKAC, which is probably the noisiest

(49:04):
building in the league or certainly in the conversation. But
here's the thing. The Thunder just looked rattled and discombobulated
in Game six, and that has created doubt that didn't
exist in the Denver series. The Thunder are gonna have
to show us that they're ready for this moment. And

(49:28):
you know the Pacers, that was the first elimination game
they've played in these playoffs. They rose to the moment.
I mean, what's the state of Halliburton's calf on Sunday?
I mean, that's another I mean there's so many variables,
but like, I can't tell you what's gonna happen. I
genuinely don't know. We don't know. That's what makes it
so delicious.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Well, let me stay with that for a second, right
because I just want a one on one contest between
the Game five and Game six. No shows of SGA
and Tyrese Haliburton going back to Game five. Let's just
let them battle it out. What do you I think
the status of that cap really is.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
I mean, I don't see how it can be good.
But obviously he gritted through it yesterday and then people
are gonna say, oh, he's not really hurt. I mean
I think it's clear there's something wrong there. You know,
is it as bad as they said?

Speaker 1 (50:19):
You know?

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Is it gamesmanship? I I I don't know. I mean, look,
I'm you know, in full disclosure, Game two is the
only game I've been at in person. I am. I
am tracking this thing from afar like you guys. But
I mean, if do you guys believe in team of
destiny stuff? I mean with all of the Pacers comebacks
and escapes and again first time in this postseason that

(50:43):
they're facing win or go home, and the way they
responded in that situation, I mean, it has been. It
has been an incredible ride. And you know, if if
they win, they are in the history books forever. And
if they lose, if Oklahoma City does what it's supposed
to do and win Game seven at home and validate

(51:04):
the incredible regular season that the thunder have had, it's
going to be a fascinating question to see how history
history remembers this Pacers team, because like, it's been such
a great playoff run again, the likes of which we
just we've never seen, you know, like you want to
talk about that Rockets team that was the sixth seed

(51:25):
in ninety five, but again they were defending chance. They
had a team and Clyde Drexler, who they traded for
at mid season. I was talking, I was on the
Gottlieb Show earlier today and Jay stew was like, well,
what about the Raptors winning in twenty nineteen. Okay, the
Raptors traded for a Finals MVP before that season, bringing

(51:46):
in Kawhi Leonard, and at mid season they traded for
Mark Gasol, one of the best defensive centers of his
generation and an All Star. Like so that Raptors team
was loaded. I mean, Fiako, who's one of the two
best players on the Pacers, you know, one of the
two or three best players on that Raptors team. I mean,

(52:07):
that Raptors team was really good. And again you're adding
Kawhi Leonard an MVP this Pacers team. I mean, where
do you rank Halliburton in Siakam two of the twenty
five best players in the league? Is it two of
the top twenty? I mean we can argue that all night,
but like they are not built like a traditional champion.

(52:27):
Halliburton and Siakam, we're not top ten picks, and it's
nothing but depth surrounding them. Really, Rick Carlisle is you know,
he probably has the most accomplished resume out of any Pacer.
It's been a great story guy. Seriously, I mean, you know,
all joking aside from the beginning like this, this has
been just a ridiculously good run for the Pacers. And

(52:53):
but now they have the very difficult assignment that you
got to go to OKC and win on their floor.
I mean, it's you know again, the home team is
fifteen and four in Game seven in the finals for
a reason.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
And the insider Mark Stein, our guest Jason Smith, Mike
Carmon Love from the Fox Sports radio studios. All right, now,
as you said, I know you got a lot going on.
We got free agency coming, we got KD situation for
this week. The Lakers are sold for ten billion dollars.
Genie Bus supposedly is staying on for a while. I
can't see that being very long. What do you see

(53:25):
for the Lakers this summer? Does Mark Walter come in?
Do they get aggressive? They do they say screw it,
We're gonna spend money. Are they gonna remake.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
The robbe Look you I remember in the NBA there
are limits to what you can spend that the Dodgers
don't face. So in the short term, I don't know
that that much is going to change Because Lebron James
is almost certainly going to opt in, and the Lakers
just don't have the flexibility to go out and start
making dodgers like moves that just that can't happen in

(53:55):
the NBA. And look, it's not even about a willingness.
Steve Olmer is willing to spend anything he can to
make the Clippers, to get the Clippers to the Championship
Promised Land. But remember in the NBA, it's all about
once you go into that second apron, you can't aggregate
salaries in trades, your draft picks get frozen, you lose

(54:16):
all these team building tools. That's what Phoenix is going
through right now. Phoenix is so far buried in the
second apron and it just makes doing anything difficult. But
the infrastructure of the Lakers is certainly going to change,
and I like you, they will invest top dollar in

(54:37):
everything they can everywhere else to modernize the franchise. There's
no way it's a bad thing. Like it's going to
take the Lakers to the next step. And ultimately, when
they do have the financial flexibility to make moves, you
know they're going to swing big and make Yep, it's
the Lakers. They're never going to have trouble getting getting players.

(55:00):
I mean, that's the thing is like, in the short term,
it's very hard to put the pieces around Luka Doncic
to optimize him. But eventually they will get flexibility and
then they will put a great team around him, because
that is the hardest part. Getting the Luka dantic is
the hardest part. They've got that figured out. It might

(55:23):
it might not happen immediately because of you know, hap
limitations and luxury tax concerns, but ultimately nobody in the league,
in the other twenty nine front offices, is very, very
happy about this. I mean, this is not with anybody,
not what any of the Lakers rivals wanted to see.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Mark other than Kevin Durant going back and forth with
Boogie Cousins about possible fistfights in the Sun's locker room
last year. What happens next with him.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Well, look, the Sons want to do this, but by
the draft, I mean something that has mattered to Phoenix.
Phoenix would love to have a trade for Kevin Durant
that it likes, but that also gives them at least
one first round pick in Wednesday's draft, which of course

(56:18):
they don't have the Houston Rockets at number ten have
what would have been the Sun's pick via Brooklyn. So
at this point the Suns don't have a first. But
the reality too here is everyone all these teams know
that the Suns are operating from a position of desperation.

(56:38):
They've decided that they have to trade Kevin Durant and
they want to get something resembling the hall that they
gave up to get for him. And it's like, how
they're not going to get They're not going to come
close to matching that. I mean that was four firsts,
the pick swap and Bridges and Cam Johnson. I mean,

(57:01):
they gave up a ton to get him. But they
have to try to find the best deal they can
make as opposed to trying to where that's where I
think the Suns end up going, rather than prioritizing Katie's
desires in terms of a landing spot. But all these
teams they're talking to, they're not putting some monster offer

(57:24):
on the table, and it's not because they don't like
Kevin Durant or Kevin Durant is a future Hall of Famer.
He's the number eight all time score in league history,
and he's an absolute all time great. But the reality
is in September he'll be thirty seven and if you're
not on his preferred wish list, you have to resign
him to a contract extension. He only has one year

(57:45):
left on his deal. So how much can the Suns
really get here? To this point, they have not gotten
an offer that they consider palatable. Can that happen this weekend?
Can that happen before Wednesday's draft? And we're going to
have to sit tight and see. But the Suns might
have to say we if we're not getting enough, are

(58:09):
we better off walking away from the table? And that's
you know, that's the kind of stuff they're mulling right now.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
He is working feverishly on the finals on the draft.
On Kevin Durant. You can follow him on Twitter at
the Steinline. That is, at the steinline, he is Mark
stein Lien here. Since your mane ain't got no heart here?
You'd like to see a real man? I bet you
stay him lead.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Likes to run all the time.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Guy, should you guys should see my kids watching me
do every line of that movie?

Speaker 1 (58:46):
That is?

Speaker 3 (58:46):
That is a press conference. I wish I would have
been at. I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I think I had to test.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I had to settle for I had to settle for
watching that on the big screen. But come on, characters,
boundtrack action. I mean, it is just ninety minutes of.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Glory running on the beach. Oh yeah, yeah, Mark, thanks
so much as always for stopping by. Hey, just think
about next week when we talk, we're gonna be talking
about the draft. Right all the season final, we're talking
about the draft because it's right around the corner. We
will have it.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
We will have it. The next time we talk, we
will have an NBA champion.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Take it easy to enjoy the weekend. Enjoy game seven,
my friend. Thank you so much. There goes mark Stein.
Rocky three from Mark Stein. You got that on the board. Wow,
oh that's four. No, that's that. Yeah, that's that's the
movie after the movie after Yes,
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