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July 8, 2025 • 40 mins

Big deal that LeBron was spotted at the Cavs practice facility over the weekend?  Jason explains why he's actually not that upset w/USMNT losing the Gold Cup. And Angel Reese is calling out the bad WNBA refs! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
The Jason Smith Show is Steve Disager and from Mike Harmon,
not a hobo. Wow, So harm So we're muccho hobo
when it's me and Harmon. When it's me and Dissager,
he gets a no hobo, no hobo, no hobo. Okay,
all right, so we go mucho hobo to no hobo. Yeah,
abs in no hobo. I wonder what the missing piece
if we go mucho hobo?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Right?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
If Harmon and I are mucco hobo, and when Disaga's
here is no hobo, that means Harmon is the majority hobo.
He's all hobo. He's all hobo hobo for him. Okay,
Oh okay, Oh now I know, Okay, So so I'm
no hobo, no hobo, no hobo, Disager, no hobo, hobo
Harmon here, mucho hobo ucho hobo?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Okay, very good, alright, good figure of that, very good.
Mucho goosto Alexander, very nice.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Uh. Jason Smith, Steve de Sager in from Mike Harmon tonight.
Happy Monday, uh and happy Fourth of July weekend. Maybe
you watch Joey Chestnut eat seventy one hot dogs on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
My goodness, you know I.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Was a little bummed because I really thought he was Friday.
I really thought he was gonna get to eighty. I
really thought, like, you know, you gotta get this disappointment
for you not to announce your presence with authority warn
like twenty five hot dogs. I know he had a
twenty five hot dog spread. Look, you think Vegas doesn't
know the number? Like, wasn't it right on the number?
Like Vegas knows the number for everything right, like they
had the number for a hot No, like he had

(01:28):
a tweet. I think he was a twenty five hot
dog favorite. And but wherever you got, I mean, hey,
I was, Hey, I got, I got chests out of
twenty four and a half hot dogs that last one
and a half counted and it was right there, like
it was right on the button.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Like I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Uh, really, so you don't keep building new casinos for nothing? No,
some Vegas does, Like how are you getting on the
number for Like if you said to me okay, like like, oh,
maybe maybe this is a movie. Like if you said
to me, okay, there's one guy in Vegas, one guy,
and he's actually been to the future. He's been to
the end of time.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
He has the fifth book right back to the future,
all the way from now, the results of the Future
World series.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah everything.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Now, so when is it when does the Andromeda Galaxy
supposedly come and swallow the Milky Way, like like seven
million years from now or something like that, and really
so our lifetimes Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, but that's it,
Like I remember we when we sorry, this is a
really fun story. No, but this gets the thing, like, no, no,
we when we went to space Camp. Astro camp for
fifth grade was always big Space Force. Yes, yes, Space Force.

(02:34):
Space Space Camp was that movie with Tate Donovan from
the eighties when somehow it's a bunch of kids get
to blast off into space when oh we didn't know that,
we didn't know the rocket was live.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh ready to go. So they go into space, which
is really stupid.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
But so we go to astro camp and we do it,
and it's it's thing to do all this stuff with
the stars and all that it's it's a really fun time.
And my wife and I were two of the chaperones.
So we go and at nighttime they bring the kids
out to where they could see all the stars. And
it's up in the hills and you get a really
great spot of being able to see the milk. You

(03:09):
see the milky Way, see o Ryon's belt and the
big and little dipper right just do all things. And
so they're up to so they're sitting there and and
and you know, these these kids are all like, you know,
nine ten years old, and so and and so the
person giving the tour say, okay, and over here is this,
and over there and all the way over there is
I think I think it's the Andromeda galaxy. But he
goes and that's the Andromata galaxy, way way way over there.

(03:29):
If you might be able to.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
See a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's so far away, it's so far away, and but
in I think it's seven million years, but it's moving
closer to our planet with a rapid speed, and in
seven million years it's going to engulf.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Our entire AI predicts it's four and a half billion,
four and a half billion years, okay, so four and
a half billion years, it's going to come still maybe
not in our lifetime. Yeah, no, maybe maybe.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
But when you say that, you say, oh, it's going
to come and just eradicate it's going to completely just
eat swallow our galaxy. Oh we're like really yeah, oh yeah,
there'll be no and and and the person does yeah,
there'll be nothing left. I'm going, oh, okay, okay, I
get four and a half billion.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
But there's some nine year olds that to go, hey,
mister Jason, Yeah, when they said it's gonna swallow our guys,
I said, it's never gonna.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
It's not gonna happen to ri. It's it's just that.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
So that dn MA last week does not matter. It's
four and.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
A half billion years and it may and it may
and it may not happen. Oh okay it might have
no No, it might not. I've read many times. It
might not happen. It might not happen. Okay, good, all right,
good good.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Things they might get together. Yeah, there might be some
sort of peace treaty.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Like yeah, like, oh, you know what can change the
think about like this?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I read this week and what was it the discovery
that was launched in seventy seven. Whatever it was was
the big whatever, the big launch in nineteen seventy seven. O.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, so you're going back back in the sky.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Laugh there of all of that, forty eight years, we
sent out a ship that was to go as far
as it can to the edge of the galaxy. Okay,
Now in forty eight years voyage and for the voyager
that was forty eight years, forty eight years, it's still
not even one light year away from Earth like they
say it's gonna get one light year away from Earth

(05:15):
next year.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Okay. So in forty eight years.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
We've sent something that probably has the the the the
electronic capacity of a smartwatch that can get now is
into space and it's still going right like we sent
it out there.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Nast eight years ago.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Gascars as long as fished last NASCAR Regin delay exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, we started in nineteen seventy seven. Richard Petty was
on the poll. And now today.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Forty eight years coming back, forty eight years it took,
and now we're gonna get one light year away from
Earth one just one light year in forty eight.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Years, and I can't believe it's still working. Like they
sent again the technology on that is like maybe it's
like the same from a microwave oven, and they sent
that out that thing is still transmitting back to us.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
So putting in perspective of all those people that complained
about the logistics of the movie Gravity with George Clooney, yeah, yeah,
they're correct because they could actually travel from one place
in space to another place in space.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yes, yeah, they could.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
People smarter than you and I were saying, oh, come on,
for crying out loud, people, we can. The distances are enormous.
You're just telling us exactly just a small portion of
what that really means.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
The distance forty.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Eight year would to get to one one light one
light year, one light year.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Face.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
So it's the equivalent of attempting to drive let's say,
from West La down toward Orange County on the four
or five.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh no, no, that will get here faster. That will
get here fast. Yeah, you will still be on the
freeway when you're watch. Wow, it's Army Eddon that's gonna
come in. Oh no, Luckily, we said astronauts who were
dressed as mind drillers to get out there and really
do it.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Because these people work on oil rigs. So Yeah, let's
have them save the world. Yeah, that's great. Okay, that's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
While that it's going on this weekend, right, I hate
to say I told you so, but did you see
who happened to just get photographed having an appearance at
the Cleveland Cavaliers practice facility?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Lebron James Again, is that an accident?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I hate to say I told you so, but for
how for a year now, I've told you Lebron's gonna
end his career in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Right, He's gonna go, He's gonna wind up. Its gonna
be appropriate.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
It is the the the distance between Lebron and the
Lakers now maybe a voyager one light year between where
teams are going. And you know, about a year ago
we talked about this and I said, well, it'll be
at the end of his contract.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
He's got the one year he's opting in fifty one million.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Literally, we know Cleveland. We would become so good, so good,
so fast.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I imagine if they could actually fit a veteran into
that salary end cap.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
All we have seen the last few months since the
Lakers got Luka Doncic was the Lakers moving away from
Lebron and you know they would trade him if they could.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Everything.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Look, it's running as a promo on the network, everything
that the Lakers have been doing the last few weeks
and months.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
They are daring Lebron to ask for a trade, and
it was his sharing option to opt in. Certainly he
had to becaus where it's sake. I would love to
give you fifty million. What do you think let's extend
your contract like this year? Is it for Lebron with
the Lakers?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
And he opts in because no one else has given
him that money and not also in theory would make
him easier to trade because okay, it's one year here,
and I'm sure if they traded Lebron to back to Cleveland,
six other teams involved, he would he would sign some
sort of I want to do this two year deal. However,
it's going to go maybe seven, eight, ten, twelve, fifteen
teams involving Lebron James deal. But the Lakers have been
daring Lebron to ask for a trade. Right, he's got

(08:48):
no trade clause.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't see how mathematically that could actually work, despite
what we just saw over the weekend at seventeen teams.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'll make it happen.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
They'll get to twelve teams like the Rochester Royals would
have to get involved teams that don't exist in the
NBA anymore.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Wait, hey, hey, the what was the team that's still
getting money in Saint Louis?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Right?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Oh, the Spirits is Sairs. He right, we got to
take some of that Vagre. That's a great story. Glad
you people don't realize that not all the ABA teams
got to merge in, like the Spurs or the Pacers.
They actually got money not to merge in, and they've
been getting money this whole time.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, we're going to cancel that deal, okay, because we
have some other stuff going.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Can you talk about your Bobby Benia day?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
But just just just play this out because this is
what's happening right now, Lebron, Like this game of Chicken
is going on with Lebron and the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Right, Lebron ops in.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
But make sure, as it put out the statement that
want to make sure the team is competitive. The Lakers
want to be competitive, they want to win. They are
just going to say, hey, we're hamstrung because you're taking
up a third of our salary cap now and you're
not at the point in your career where you can
take up a third of our salary cap.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
So now let's see if you really think you want
us to be competitive.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
They wouldn't dig into that. We have to go take
a flyer on DeAndre eight, which is a nice move.
But this is what's gonna This is all we're gonna
do now. The minute they move on from Lebron, they
will bring it. Hey, who's our guy and they know
who their guy or a couple of guys are and
say these are our players to bring in alongside Luka Doncics.
It's gonna be the next great era of the Lake
set up. We know who we're gonna do it, but
we're not gonna do it now because A we can't

(10:18):
and B we want Lebron to ask for a trade
now with the no trade clause. He's got to say,
but there's only one place he can go, right, He
can't go any place else where. It doesn't look like, hey,
I'm just trying to hold on. Where does it look like?
No matter how it ends for me, it's going to
end well, and it's Cleveland because he can always say
I'm ending at home. I started at home, I left

(10:39):
I went back. I left again. I'm gonna go back.
I'll leave again and go back. It's like when you
go way to college. I'll leave, I come back. I
go away, I come back.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I got laundry to do.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
No matter how it ends in Cleveland, it ends well
for him because he ends at home. If he goes
to Dallas or the Knicks or someplace else, Okay, and
it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Boy, Lebron, you tried at the end. Look how bad
it is.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
He wants to control his legacy and control the optics,
and Cleveland's the only place he can go. And now
you see how good they are. Yeah, they could be
a Lebron James away from winning the East because clearly
they could use him, and they need somebody to take
the pressure off that team because they're all as good
as they are, they clearly don't know what it takes

(11:20):
to win, because you saw them get pushed out of
the playoffs when clearly they're missing that leadership.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Kind of role and whatever kind of leader.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Lebron, as you know, he would take that pressure off
of them because it would become about him and they'd
be able to just play. Lebron would go back for
a year or two, depending how it goes. As long
as he's playing, he'd go for a ego for a
couple of years. But Lebron doesn't do anything just off
the cuff, right. There's reason why.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
In that since he was a teenager.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
By the way, in the wake of the trade rumors
where Bron he's having to answer trade rumors over the
course of the last few days about Lebron. There's no
way he shows up in Cleveland with that picture unless
that's something he either wants to jumpstart or has jump
started about going back to Cleveland. Just want to grease
that out there that hey here in Cleveland, still a
kid from Akron, still a can I go back here?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm telling home. I thought it would be after this year, but.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
It could be this offseason that I've never thought We're
close as close to a Lebron James trade as we
are right now.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Clearly the Lakers would get a couple of assets back,
but they would want to get out front of the
money and they get something that's pretty good, but they're
not gonna get anything over the top grade because Cleveland's
gonna want to keep their roster.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
But they are deep. They are deep. They go eight
to nine deep with guys that can score.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
They can fill it up at the best offense in
the NBA last year, so they can afford to make
this kind of trade because clearly what they had wasn't enough.
So they can make this and maybe a couple more
teams get involved to make it happen. It's a four
or five team trade when it's all said in Rochester Royals,
So yeah, sure, Saint Louis, Are you're gonna give the.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
City Omaha Kings getting involved?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, well we're hey, we're hey, we're gonna
we're gonna put a team back in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
You guys are gonna be great. It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
But we have never been closer to a Lebron trade
than we are right now. Lebron had he had, the
only thing is he's got to make a I'm okay
with being dealt. There's gonna be and it would be
something really fast like hey, suddenly it's good. Hey, this
is gonna work, And it's just a matter of time
as to how we figure out who goes where and
who gets involved, because once that gets out that they're negotiating,

(13:18):
Lebron can't go back to the Lakers, and Cleveland can't
go back to not getting him. So he's so this
is this big test balloon, letting everybody know, Hey, I
can come back to Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Maybe it's already started. If not, let's start it going
right now, because clearly I'm not part of the solution
in LA. I don't feel like I'm wanted anymore, and
Lebron's not gonna play for team, doesn't feel wanted on
and so yeah, let me come back here and I
control the end of my career narrative. Again, We've never
been closer to a Lebron trade than we are right now.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
It would be better for all involved, Frankly and the Lakers.
And by the way, you briefly reference Brownie James, that
summer league star Bronnie James to you, sorry, yes, that
day after the dunk Lakers. I want to see it
come to the point where they're stuck with the contra.
They're stuck with him. He can still play, by the way,
we don't mean to imply that he can't, uh, but
it's gonna it's gonna eventually be like the Yankees don't

(14:09):
want to employ George Costanza anymore. So how much do
we have to do to get him out the door?
Change the locks on the bathroom, what have you? So
that he says, finally I've had enough.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm going, oh, okay, I'm just picturing when George Castan
teaching Derek Jeter.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
How did It's all mental? It's all mental, It's all mental.
H Yeah, get ready Lebron to the Cavs. I hate
to say I told you so, but get ready? Exit
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
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Speaker 5 (16:04):
Again.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Ty shirt is supposed to be all Ozzie Black Sabbath songs.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Tonight, I've been trying to find something. You can't find
any Ozzy Black Sabbath songs. Right.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I think he retired, Yeah no, but they still keep
him out there. Yeah sure, yeah, they don't like wipe
him off the internet. I don't think that happens.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I thought, when you retire it just goes with you. Uh,
you can't take it with you when you're gone. Right, No,
that's true, that's true. That's it. But it's it's not
about it's not about finding.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
South day today.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You go yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that
makes sense.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Steve.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
And he's just and he's just retired. He's just retiring
now from gone he said, no, he's just retiring.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
He's like, no, he's gone.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
No, just you know, stop because people are tuning in,
going what's happening. He's just retired. I just remember seeing
him in the hallway. Now he's gone.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Huh. You saw Ozzy in the hallway not a long
time ago. Really, Yeah. When I started here, he was
with Nikki six Really, he just walked by me. It
was wild.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I saw Steven Tyler with Nikki in the.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Wow he had to make coffee. That's not the lead
he's not the lead singer of music. I'm saying the
guy that was the lead singer.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Muse oh asked you how to make coffee? Did you
show him the right way or did you just like
do some crazy way. I thought he was a random guy.
What we do is you fill this cup with milk
all the way to the top. You drink half the
milk yourself. Than what you do is take the coffee
and you pour it right through this strainer, and then
you add some vegetables.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Maybe a little maybe a little bit of a.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Put some Brussels sprouts in and then you grind him
up and then if that's kind of the sediment on
the bottom, and then.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
You drink it.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I'm a little offended. What it doesn't sound good? No, no, really,
that doesn't sound good. It's not for coffee, Steve.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Right, it's no, of course, not for anything. No, no
it doesn't. But that's but that's how ty Shirt eats.
We could have a game on the show, right, We
could have a game on the show and we could
call it did Tyshirt eat this? And I could make
it up and no matter what I would say, you
can go. I could see him eating that.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
We do know he has his own store. I could
see him eating that. I can see that.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
I can is it, Alex Tyschert.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Has he taken Elmer's glue and just poured it into
his mouth?

Speaker 7 (17:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, tys absolutely.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
That was a kid.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, there was a kid in my school that did
that and he got he got glue. Yeah, Joseph Bryant, right.
This he was a fun He could do so many crazy,
crazy things. He was able to turn his eyeball out
to where he could push his eye and it would
turn the other way, like the eye would like beside
looking into into his brain. Oh my god, dude, well

(18:24):
this is this is like fourth grade.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I used to do it.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
It's like, oh my god. They do And he could
do it that easy, right, he could just do it that.
He's like, oh my god. And he could do that
and flip his eyes. But he didn't once. I think
it was fourth grade, third grade might have been. He
was always sitting. He would sit in the back and
the teacher, Joseph Bryant, what are you doing? Turn around
and he's just scoring. He's just eating the glue. Like
he squeezed like one of the Elmer's glue things with

(18:47):
the with the orange top. He unscrews the top and
he just squeezed it into his mouth like he's eating
ketchum and it's eating glow.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
And sent him out and go go to the go
to the principal's office.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Had another thing that when you got your teaching.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Credential, you wouldn't be stopping the class to say, and
now you wonder why people teach them leave after a
couple of years old.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I can't do it. I'm sorry, kid, one of
the things. I just can't do this anymore. I'm done.
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Kid was eating blue in the class like what like, No,
They're just pouring in his mouth like he was, like
he was, you know, having a shake.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'm just gonna eat glue.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
We got that glue from donors chose take care of it.
We don't have any money for this class.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
So look, so this weekend, you probably watched Gold Cup.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Last night, the US men's national team loses to Mexico
two to one, and.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
You deserve too. They were not the better team that
you know.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
We were better the first four minutes and then Mexico
is better the last ninety plus minutes. The United States
ran out of gas. We couldn't get any sort of
of penetration.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Mexico had about sixty five percent of possession most of
the game.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
And I think that was being nice.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I think that was the statisticians at Fox being nice, going, yeah,
let's just say sixty f but it's really ninety eight percent. Yeah,
but let's not do that. People are gonna go crazy.
Uh so, yeah, Mexico scores, they score for a set
piece to go up.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
And they win two to one. And here's the thing,
I'm really not that upset. I'm really not.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
In fact, I see a lot of good and more good,
and we'll get to the handball that should have been
called in the second. But like I saw, I saw
this Gold Cup. The United States was able to accomplish
what they wanted to accomplish because because going into the
World Cup.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
It was terrible.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Right, you have you have an entitled set of players
who have been told they were stars from the beginning,
that are talented but have not done anything to warrant
the attention.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
You have some of the sake.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Fighting contracts in Europe wish Americans didn't use to.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Which is which is great, right, since out that we're
not producing good players, now, it's okay, how about we
harness that. That's it, How harnessed these players and get
them to play together. But it's been the better part
of a decade now for this Polistic and Robinson and
everybody else, and it just hasn't worked. And not only
has it not worked, but they have. You know, the
big players did want to come, didn't want to come

(21:01):
and play. And here's another, you know, another regime change
from Berhalter to Mauricio Pochatino, which was needed. And I
don't know what kind of buy in there is. I
don't get the sense there's any sort of togetherness in
the United States National team, like you know, like we
talked to Jason Locking for about this last hour and
he said, I don't even know that they like each other,
and I go, well, I don't. It seems like, hey,

(21:22):
when they play well together, they have fun, But there
doesn't seem to be a sense of a buy in
right that. You get the other teams buying into whatever
system we're doing. They're buying into the message and they're
buying into each other. I don't get that.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
And the new coach had talked about buying into actually
being sad when you don't win a soccer game, because
you won't become a soccer country until that's the case.
And he wasn't just talking about fans, he was talking
about his own players. And when you mentioned the US team,
it's two sets of men's players that we're talking about.
The one with the veterans that embarrass themselves with back

(21:54):
to back losses in February, and then the two that
lost the tune ups before this tournament. So US Soccer,
which is going to co host the World Cup. Everyone's
gonna be here next summer. So it's a potential huge
embarrassment for the United States on and off the field.
They have four straight losses all at home this year
going into the tournament.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I I I, but I am not.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
In fact, I saw more good because what was the
main thing needed to happen after this?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
The United States? They have no identity, they have they
have no direction.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
It just seems like we're continuing to just throw stuff
out there and see what fits. And and again the
entitled generation of stars that hasn't done anything to warrant
being stars. I don't know that there's any buying with Pochetino.
But before the but before the Gold Cup started, when
he said, you know, the players don't dictate when they
player when they don't about Christian polistic I'm not a mannequin,
which I still I love that line, like what a

(22:47):
great I am not a manic and.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
That was not lost in the translation. He was actually
saying that I am coach and I'm not just here,
I'm not a manquin.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
So what they needed was they needed a good showing
in the Gold Cup and they needed to come out
of it with an idea. And the identity is Okay,
this is poach Tino system. He found some players that
everybody likes watching it, a backup, backup goalie every game to.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
The whole tournament.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, right, Freeze who wrote a paper from and I
think it was a senior thesis at college about penalty
kicks and then and he was great in Pedallyga.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, if you write a seam a paper on it
in college, you better be really.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
A couple some days ago they won on penalty kicks
against Costa Rica. But aside from that, they got to
play Trinidad in their tournament open. That's an automatic w
You could have won that.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Without eleven players. And then the Saudi Arabia win was
one nothing.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
And then you get to play Haiti and then the
Guatemala game in the semis. So, okay, you made the
final of the tournament. Congrats. It wasn't exactly one stellar
opponent after another to get you there.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
But the but the thing they needed to accomplish was
they had to come out of this saying how do
we go forward? How do we create our identity? And
throughout the course of the Gold Cup, a couple of
new stars have shown up. You saw how well well
Poachino talked about Till and how well Diego Luna played. Hey,
I have some guys that I like right now. If
we put all MLS guys out there, boy, I would

(24:07):
love that as a as a as a fensit boy,
I'd love to have all the MLS guys out there
and playing.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It to be awesome federation.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right, we get absolutely destroyed, but it would be fun, right,
I mean we would well, okay, it would be fun
until they actually played the games.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
There you go. Once the game.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Started, a couple of goals, I'm immediately thinking, hey, this
is the second coming of the Ricardo Peppi.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Somebody can score. He's gonna be the next Yeah, whoever.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
But what he needed to do is how do we
come out of And they played well enough getting to
the final and losing with the B team that enough
of them, there was enough ground swell against the players
who didn't come, including Polistic who's the leader of this
that they understand. Okay, Pochatino. He's the guy in charge now,
right because I won with these guys, and coaches all
want to play with their guys, right heat When he said, listen,

(24:57):
you don't say what how things go here, he needed
to have a big showing in the Gold Cup to
be able to continue on with that. And they did
well enough, getting to the getting to the championship game
and losing by a goal. So now coming out of this, okay,
it's his program.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
The optics are change a little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
We have some more young players coming up that and
the ones that skip and the veterans they have to
understand now that okay, we have to buy in or
maybe we get left home, or this is our last
chance we're to play in a World Cup because four
years from now they're gonna pick different players entirely and
we're going to be out and this is gonna be
in his early thirties and never get picked for a
World Cup team again. Some of the other guys are

(25:33):
never gonna get selected. So coming out of this, yes,
we know the identity of the team, and we also
know that the players are skipped have to buy in
or risk potentially this being their last World Cup or
getting left off the roster because Poschino doesn't seem like
he's one of those guys going, yeah, I'll let you
come in now and play. No. No, if you don't come
in and you and you don't show me you're committed,

(25:54):
I will go with other guys, and if we wind
up losing, we wind up losing. But I'm convinced that.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
The the the.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
System that I can input. I'll get the players that
I like, as all coaches want their own players, and
I am more than happy going to battle without you
you buy into my system or not. So I think
coming out of this they hit rock bottom and now
they can dig back up. You don't want them dig
back up eleven months before the World cut. I hope
that I but I feel like everybody is everybody's now okay,

(26:22):
we have no choice but to be on the same
page going forward. So I think that's they need to
accomplish in the Gold Cup, and they did, so I'm
not I'm not that upset. Hey, if they won, great,
that was like, it's it's gravy if them gravy, Like
it's gravy if they wig. But but they didn't win,
and they shouldn't have won and they showed that, Okay,
our B team is not going to be good enough,
so we need these guys. So hopefully it's a it's

(26:42):
a happy mix of everybody understanding we need to be
on the same page going forward.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
What's been said for me as a fan of US
teams is that this past decade, if I can generalize,
it just seems like we're going backwards. We're going back
to keep in mind, way before land and Dadavan, like
when Alexi Lawless was playing and that group in the
early nineties, the US until nineteen ninety had not made

(27:09):
the World Cup at all for forty years. We just
didn't matter in that sport on a world level. And
then guess what, they made it and quickly got trounced
three times and exited the nineteen ninety World Cup. And
then when we hosted in nineteen ninety four, of course
we got in automatically and the offense in four games
scored two goals. That was US men's soccer in the

(27:32):
nineteen nineties. It was a struggle. Fast forward a decade
they could play with anybody in the world. With Landon
Donovan and company ed Clint Dempsey wound up being a
great scorer for this team, and now we have regressed.
It's not just the coaching change, which was needed, it's
that the next generations coming up are really not taking
the baton and going for it. Congratulations, you play with

(27:56):
a famous Italian club. You used to play with that
team in Europe. Good for you personally. It hasn't translated
to the US actually being something. And I will add
that even getting to the Gold Cup final was not
impressive to me the last couple of weeks because our
region of the world, this was the regional championship is down.
Even Mexico is down. Oh yeah, all of the teams,

(28:18):
Costa Rica is down. All of the teams that we
would potentially meet and some we did, none of them are.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
As good as they were a few years ago now.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
And now all that being said, right, all that being said,
the handball that wasn't called okay, second half, and Pochattina
was right when he said, if that happened in our end,
we're getting called for the handball, which he's absolutely right, because.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Listen, Mexico's defense was not called for.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
NBA officiating looks like we NBA officiating looks like the
NFL using replay compared to what happens to the United States.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
In soccer or WNBA officiating.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
We'll get to that, but the United States absolutely that
would have gone against us, and the United States goes
into it's ridiculous how stacked it is against the United
States men's team. When we go and play, there's calls
that are made that I just shake my head and go,
what the hell? Now, they didn't get this handball call
in the second half, which should have absolutely been a handball.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
A defender fell with his flat hand on top of
the ball. It doesn't matter if it's an accident, right
the rule of base in all sports get called whether
their accidents or not.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Now they fall on the on the on the philosophy
of you can to break your fall.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
You could put your hand down if it comes in
contact with the ball, it's okay. Now poach Tino says
it hand wasn't on the ground. He actually put his
hand on the ball. Now, okay. So if that's the case,
I get it that. Okay, you put your hand on there,
you put down your hand on the ball. Your hand
has to come off the ball right away. But this
is what turned into a Penley fan I can't believe
they did. But again, the United States gets screwed more
than anybody else in any sport nationally when when they

(29:49):
play internationally. You see Sanchez, his hand is on the ball,
his left hand is on the right side of the ball,
and he turns it to make it easier for himself
to get it and kick it out because he turns
it away from the net and he gets up like that. Okay,
right there, that's enough for a penalty. Your hand is
on the ball, it doesn't slide off, and you turn it.

(30:10):
I mean, you benefit. You can see it plain as day.
You had an advantage because of that, because he clearly
tried to do it to get it away. So he
knows where he's going, he knows the United States players
is going towards the net, and he can do it,
and I'm turning it back this way, and still there's
no call. I mean that that is I mean, that
was absolutely ridiculous. And and I just know that when

(30:32):
something like that happens the United States, we're never going
to get that call. We're never going to get it.
We do agree.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Bottom line, Mexico was clearly the better team.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
But that's that's the thing about soccer. You can you
can dominate an entire game, but.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
And and take it kicks and then you take your chances.
As far as the US and Mexico will say it again,
this was their last competitive match until they co host
next summer's World Cup. They're already in as hosts. There
are there's nothing, there are no qualification games. So the US,
for example, is going to be hosting South Korea and
Japan and a couple of exhibitions in early September, and

(31:08):
then they're going to have of course exhibitions next year
and set the roster later.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'm okay, they've hit rock bottom and now we're going
to hope again.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I thought rock bottom was missing the World Cup entirely
and twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Okay, okay, that is okay, But okay, the status well,
we knew we were making it because we didn't have.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
To qualify this time.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
So that if I'm okay, they've now they're moving back
up and everybody should be on the same page. I'm
feeling I'm feeling better than I have about it in
a while, because they needed this, They needed to go
what's the identity?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
What's this?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
And we clearly know what it is, and everybody knows that,
whether you're a veteran player or a young player, Hey,
I have to buy in or I'll.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Be left home.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Speaking of getting left home, the Dodgers left there pitching
home today or at least in the hotel in Milwaukee.
Steve de Seger has more on this with What's Trending.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
And it was an All Stars LA's starting pitcher. A
team that has now lost four in a row, the
Dodgers were beaten nine to one at Millwa Talkey tonight.
Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who injured with an ERA of two point
five to one, took the loss. He was out in
the first inning, allowed five runs forty one pitches. Ella
has been outscored during its brief losing streak thirty eight
to seven. They lost all the home games over the

(32:15):
weekend to Houston, but Houston was beaten at home by
Cleveland tonight seven to five. The Guardians had lost ten
in a row. Toronto won its ninth straight game eight
four at the White Sox. The Blue Jays are the
first place team in the AL Ease. They started the
night three games up on the Yankees and Rays. Tampa
Bay was beaten five to one at Detroit, which has
won four straight. Miami a five to one winner at Cincinnati.

(32:36):
Boston won its fourth in a row nine to three
over Colorado. Kansas City sent Pittsburgh to a fourth straight loss,
nine to three. Three late games, Rangers holding on four
to three in Anaheim. That game is in the bottom
of the six Jacob de Grom pitched the first five
innings with five strikeouts for Texas. The Diamondbacks lead at
San Diego four to one in the top of the seventh.

(32:57):
U Darvish made his season debut after the elbow problems.
Lasted three and two thirds sixty three pitches for the Padres.
The Phillies are tied one one at San Francisco bottom
of the seventh inning. The idol Mets second in the
NL East, game and a half behind Philadelphia. The Nationals
named Miguel Cairo as interim manager. Dave Martinez was fired
Sunday along with g and Mike Rizzo. The Nats are

(33:18):
last in the NL East. The Twins Byron Buxton will
be in next Monday's home run derby. It's in Atlanta.
He's a Georgia native. Also in that home run Derby
will be Atlanta's Ronald leccune, also Cal Raley and James
Wood of the NATS. The Orlando Magic Apollo Banco a
five year max extension. The Clippers traded Norman Powell to

(33:39):
the Heat in the WNBA just two games, five minutes
to go at Phoenix Mercury up on Dallas ninety four
to sixty eight. Page Beckers three of eleven, shooting eleven
points for the Dallas Wings, And earlier it was Atlanta
over expansion Golden State ninety to eighty one. Number one
seed Yonick Center advanced to the Wimbledon quarterfinals.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Back to you, Steve O.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Jason Smith, Steve to Sager and from Mike Harmon coming
up next. You thought complaining about the officials was gonna
end with the end of the NBA Finals. Oh no,
that we got something for you next right here, Fox
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Speaker 1 (34:14):
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Speaker 2 (34:22):
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Speaker 3 (34:23):
Jason Smith Steve to Sager, Oh you thought we'd had
the end of the boy Professional basketball officials are terrible. No, no, no, no,
no no. You had the sparks Kelsey Plumb about a
week or so ago, not understanding how games are officiating.
I got scratches all down my arms. I don't get
what's going on. And now Angel Reese the latest to

(34:46):
complain about officiating when Sky lost on Sunday and saw
the big discrepancy at the free throw line, and she
is the latest to say, Hey, this stinks and I
can't take it anymore. Let's take a listen to a
little bit of Angel Reese from her postgame comments a
day ago.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Or do I have to play the part of Angel
race White up into the fourth quarter and she tells
me it's not her job.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
So not her job. Huh, hey, what's it's not my job?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Not my job? Our job to officiate, to officiate the game?
A job too well, I understand.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
She goes on to say that, look, I've been I've
been good about it, but now I can't. I can't
take it anymore. I'm sick of this blank and it's
got a change. And first of all, I love this
because it's a basketball story. It's not about who loves
Caitlin Clark and who does it and all the time
who loves other players? But I do want to say
this because we here. My first thing is, hey, welcome

(35:41):
to basketball. Let me know if you figure out how
that works, because you know, the NBA needs some up
with that too. If you figure out a solution as
to how to fix the officiating, let me know, let
me know. And hey, because I'd love to say it
because this has been going on for the better part
of twenty twenty five, thirty years that I've been watching
the NBA. So hey, if you have a solution that
works to get games officiated better, Hey, I'm all ears.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I want to hear what do you got?

Speaker 4 (36:06):
But also she deserves to be called out for what
you just referenced. She can't go up to an official
say hey, I've only been up to the line twice.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
As is the officials job to get you there. They
are not predisposed.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Okay, as we go over the pregame notes, so and
so's got to get to the line five times, or
it's just what its like sometimes the foul free throw disparity.
You see this in the playoffs, especially, fans start arguing,
not realizing that one team might be a lot more
aggressive in the lane and therefore drawing more fouls.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That way.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Sometimes there are legitimate reasons for one team having far
more free throws than the other, and for you as
a player, this says something more about her than the
refs to actually think that, hey, I've only been up
to the free throw line twice, like it's the ref's
job to get you there.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
See.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Here's the thing, though, is that, you know, look, I'm
very critical of Angel Reese because obviously she's you know
when she said things that you go, Okay, come on,
what are we really trying to accomplish here but this?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
And no, honestly I see it because look.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Then look they had a couple of screen grabs and
a couple of replays of her being held around the
waist while she's going for a rebound in general, and.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
So I now understand they can't call everything, because then
it would be an unwatchable product.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Right, It's like holding in the NFL. Right, you can't
call it all the time.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
You got to hold it when it affects the players, egregious,
And so I get that. That's how officials watch the game. Okay,
did she not get this offensive rebound because of a foul?
Or if she got fouled, but she gets the offensive rebound.
I'm not gonna blow my whistle even though by the
letter of the law things are a foul, I understand,
but I get that. Look, we see enough officiating with

(37:51):
me in both sports where you're saying, hey, that's something
that you get to the free throw line on that.
This is something that you can't ignore and players are
just going to continue to take more and more from them.
You know, hey, if you're not gonna call it, I'm
gonna get to do X, Y and Z, because yeah,
you can't simply call everything. I mean, look, you're not
Scott Foster. You know, he's not doing a game. You

(38:11):
got to send people there.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
But I mean, this is this is part of when
when when I see a stable like this and I go.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, okay, yeah, well welcome, Welcome to the big time.
This is how it works. This is how it goes.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
It also, and since you're bringing up more than one example,
this kind of smacked to me, as is this another
example of the WNBA not being ready for prime time?
That you have a product, this is your product, after all,
you have a product that is going to get a
little more of a microscope than it did for so
many years. But you know what, this isn't just going

(38:41):
on this year. This is part of your product and
it's not a compliment. No.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Look, because I've said the biggest thing the WNBA has
shown is that they can't handle success, right, they can't
handle success. They have not been able to do it.
They've been just succeeding despite themselves. And you saw that
story this weekend that came out about the whole dijon
A Carrington and Caitlyn Ark story from a year ago
with with Christine Brennan, and a big, a big part

(39:05):
of this Christine Brennan's article on on on you know
the Caitlin Clark foul that kind of jump started all
this year ago, is that she's got a quote from
someone in the w NBA that says, hey, a lot
of our players are just starting to understand. They don't
they don't get a lot of things that are going
on media wise and how things go because it's their
first time they're being exposed to being a big deal.

(39:28):
Right because w NBA has been able to look, they've
they've been a niche sport for a while and now
they've hit the big time.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
And they're all getting used to it.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
They need but they the thing is, they need to
accelerate that learning curve, saying, hey, you guys are big
time now you see this, You guys are big time
parts of the everyday sports conversation. We gotta we gotta
accentuate that led that learning curve a little bit so
it doesn't look like, hey, this is stuff that's been
going on in sports for a long time and you're
just getting to it now, right, You got you gotta

(39:55):
make us speed that thing up a bit, speed it up.
Exit out about a fresca Tason Smith, Steve de seger
in from Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we get back
into a big story out of Major League Baseball. Keep
it right here, Jason, Steve, This is Fox Sports Radio.
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