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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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is a no Hobo night. Here on the show. He's
not here, Harmon not here. Harmon also not in England.
Did not go to the final Azzie Black Sabbathe show

(00:55):
because he's in Virginia. I know if you cover he
did not go. No, he would tell me if you going,
he wouldn't. Are you kidding? Yeah, he would one hundred percent.
I'm going to the show. I'm going I'm in the pit,
I'm gonna go get to see Rival Sons and then
Anthrax and Guns and Roses and Metallic. I would go
through everybody, no hundred percent. Maybe would be jealous. No, no,
he would go. Now he would go. And tickets I

(01:17):
read tickets weren't that expect It was between like two
hundred and two thousand dollars. But you would think for
a ten hour show something like this, you got to
see everybody. I mean it was insane. Like I streamed
some of it and got to see off an Ox.
It was ten hours. I would see a little bit
and go, like I wanted to see Guns and Rows
when they came on. But like some of these bands,
like it was like live aid, like Guns and Roses and.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
It was Jimmy Hendrix and Country Joe and the Fish and.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Country Joe and the Fish. That even mean like you got,
you got, you got, like Guns and ROSI, Oh yeah,
we'll come on and do twenty minutes. And one of
the songs would be a Black Sabbath cover. Yeah we're
good with that, so yah, yeah, it's all good. Yeah,
And no one's making money on this, like they're all
they were all going just to pay an homage to
Ozzie and Black Sabbath, which really, we wouldn't have the

(02:00):
hard rock and heavy metal era that we had. It
wasn't for Black Sabbath. When hey, Black Sabbath's first album
in seventy nineteen seventy, I mean it just was a
completely different kind of music, and it showed, hey, rock
doesn't need to be pop and syrupy. It can be
that way. It can be emotional. It can also be
dark and mysterious and scary. And Black Sabbath ushered in everything.

(02:24):
We wouldn't have Metallica and Guns n' Roses and all
these bands if we didn't have Black Sabbath.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Now, when you say nobody made money off this, you're
talking about visiting bands.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh, visit bands didn't make money, No, no, no, no,
somebody made money. Oh no no no no. Black Sabbath
and Ozzie did pretty well. But these other bands coming in.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Because they haven't had money for a while. Gee, it's
good those kids could get a buck or two.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Because but here's the thing. This is a farewell concert,
like this is it like Ozzie's Parkinson's like he can't
do it anymore, and he had to do the whole
show and sitting in a throne.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Uh, this isn't like Sugar Ray Leonard, this is gonna
be my last fight. This is yeah, this is this
is okay that next one is gonna be my last night.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
This is not that that line Frank Dremmen line from
The Naked Gun, this is your last chance, and not
one of those Major League Baseball sew last chances, you know.
This is like this is like this is it? Like
they're done? Like this was it? Like they only did
Ozzie did four songs from his solo career and then
they finished with four of his big hits, big songs
from Black Sabbath, Like that's it. That's all these guys
could go. Because these guys are in their seventies. Man,

(03:27):
it's like, okay, twenties, funny, Okay, twenty minute, not a
lot of jumping around on stage. We're gonna play our
instruments and that's kind of what you're gonna get. Oh
like a concert, you mean, yeah, what idea? But seriously,
like I'm watching this and I'm going, man, this tells
me that I'm getting older? Is that like, cause I'm
in my fifties now, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Like this tomorrow your last show.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's gonna be my last year, now my last concert? No,
like like I see the kind of concerts that I
like to experience now, like, hey, seeing a concert and
streaming it? Okay, great, could I go to it? Do
I like going to concerts? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
What?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I love to go to a concert where I saw
a couple of really good bands and they did like
six songs each. Yeah, I'd love that. I don't want
to see your filler songs that you think are really
good but there aren't. And I'm sorry, no matter how
much you play them, I don't care. Right Like Harmon
and I have this fight about Coma by Guns and Roads.
I go, they play Coma at every show and I
don't know why. And I always find that's when I
go to the bathroom, like go buy a T shirt?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
It puts you in.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Will go get something to eat? Like I'm not, I'm sorry,
I'm no. Coma's great, Coma. No, it's not so why
some people.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Your age would love to go to these types of
contract concerts except for those darn kids in.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Front of them. I want to, I want to. I
want to sit on the aisle. I want to be
close to a bathroom and close to the two off food.
That's what I want. I'm going to be in the pit.
Why would I want to be in the pitman, and
I have to go to the bathroom at some point.
I want to walk, jostle around all the way back down.
Like I get it. I get like.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
This is so you're saying the experience I want. In
England over the weekend, pretty much the whole floor was
the pit.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Oh, it's wort to be great, Like I could have
gone seen the bands I wanted because everything was too
like it was ly so rival sons. I'd want to
see the like rival suns is start, you know, twelve
thirty to twelve forty eight oatles, Yes, but then going on, Okay,
I don't need to come out and need to come back. Yeah,
I'll come back here. Okay, so Anthrax is here. Oh
that's in four hours. I'll leave because I'm sure I

(05:14):
have some sort of bracelet and I'll go have lunch.
I'll go watch the Mets come back, Max and the Yankees,
and I'll come back when I want. They're not going
to suddenly change it and say, okay, hey, sorry, but
we moved up the Anthrax, Guns and Roses life.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Oh, absolutely, come back at that. Musicians are known for
following the schedule.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Hey, hey, hey, when you're an older rock, when you're
in your fifties and you know that your your audience
is not just going to sit and go along with
all the different whims.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Leave and say I'll wait till Joan Baiez comes back
at six thirty.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I would have seen Dylan and Joan Bian's coming back.
My daughter would like to see that concert. Uh no,
but I would know that that's what I want to
I could leave for four hours. I'll go watch a game.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Come back.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm good, Go back to my head. You're in my
stint processes. You're at a concert. You can leave it
for four hours. Yeah, there's still a full concert to
come back. I go back. So I had a whole
big day. Hey listen, you could sit in my seat
and watch the next few bands. But I'm coming back
for I'm coming back for Guns N' Roses, so you'll
be sitting in another seat by that. Okay, that's great.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
This sounds like that Island concert that went awry, where
it's how many hours the yeah yeah or the yeah no, everything,
you know, and they were trying to sleep intents.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
There's some concerts that I would not would do that
on I'd be a little nervous about. But the final
Black Sabbath Ozzie concert, that was such a big thing.
Oh you know, I'm okay with that. That's going to
go on time, and you can okay with it.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You could just stream this way? How could you in
this country?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah? You can stream why I was able to stream
some of it? What you can stream it on your computer.
You could have streamed it on TV. Yeah, you can stream.
Can you check in?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I never heard about it till after the fact.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
And then I missed it. It was over that.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
It sounds like a whole thing, but it's not like
you reference Live aid because of course that had pre planned.
We're going to get this kind of coverage and everybody
else can enjoy it live.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah. No, this this was kind of what it was
like for people who missed Live Aid, which was in
the eighties, right this nineteen. Live Aid was eighty eight,
eighty seven, eighty eight. If you watch Bohemian Raps and
you'll get all about you know, you'll understand what Live
aid was all about. So live A killed us. Yeah,
Live aid was I was eighty five okay, yeah, oh yeah,
because they did We Are the World, and then they

(07:23):
went into Live.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Like oh and correction, I said Veterans Stadium. It was
JFK Stadium, Philadelphia. That's how long ago. They started in
Wembley's wore green all the time.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, whether they got along or not, we mean Randall
Cunningham not on different eagles, different eagles, Like they started
in Wembley and they did the first half of the
concert like the first twenty four hours, and then they
went to JFK they did the rest of the concert
like I remember. The big deal was Phil Collins who
performed both in Wembley and then went and performed with

(07:53):
the Who at JFK. And the best was Pete Townsend
because he was so mad that Phil Collins getting all
this publicity because he came he played with them. He goes,
the guy didn't know any of our songs. He's just
grinning like an idiot and everything is off. We had
a horrible set nine.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Kind of smiling and in response he trashed a hotel
room and that was happening with guitar. That's gonna happen regardless.
He doesn't need an excuse for that.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
But that's kind of what this was.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
It was like a mini live aid where these bands
are coming on to it and they put these supergroups together, right,
they never played together before. Here Sammy Hagar is gonna
play with Tom Morello.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
And like the Elton John Billy Joel tour. It's you
wouldn't have thought. And then they were all.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Together and you had Jack Black doing like basically with
School of Rock too, doing mister Crowley with like the
kids of absolute rock legends, like Tom Morello's kid you know,
played with him, and Scott Ian's kid played with it.
It's like watching or is he doing School of Rock too?
And he sounded great. I mean this was what this was,

(08:56):
what the event was. I'm like, wow, that's a that's
a concert. I think that people are going to look
at and retrospect and go if I could have been
at one show and what I'd want to be there,
even though it's a lot of people who are old.
Look Metallica they're all in their late fifties. Now, Guns
and Roses all in their late fifties early six What
about John Williams with John Williams there. Yes, yeah, they
opened up with the with the Empire March and then
they went into some Indiana Jones.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Then from the ninety six Olympics, and they did.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Theme from a Summer Place, theme from the Summer Blaze.
He did twenty minutes. Twenty minutes to John Williams, it's
and he was Raiders at the Lost Start and he left.
I made, you know, just and he destroyed his piano
on stage. Oh it was amazing he did. All guys
were coming up with their French horns and hobos and
they were just smashing them on the stage. Oh, it

(09:42):
was crazy. You believe it's rock and roll orchestra. Man,
I'm telling you. Dude, Mel showed up. He was breaking
batons and throwing them into the crowd.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Took his baton and ah, it was.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It was just mass anarchy on the stage.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Dogs and cats living together.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But that that event, I think people, I wish that
I had been to that event because I don't know
that you're gonna you get big bills and big here's
a monster you're describing, especially just this with this thing
where they're paying and it was a perfect thing. We're
paying homage to this rock band that meant so much
to the to the to the modern era of rock

(10:18):
and roll that we're still feeling that now. And okay,
and Ozzie's Ozzie's still around and playing. It's like, I
don't know if it in nineteen eighty all the stories
you read Ozzie's drunk all the time, and he's you know,
he's in the eighties, like he spent the entire time.
All these stories that people have that they do for
behind the music and all these different biographies, and they
ask Ozzie, can you uh, can you can you corroborate this? Oh? No, no,

(10:41):
I don't remember. Yeah, And I don't remember that at all,
Like all the people he hired and fired in bands.
I don't remember the reason. This is the last Yeah, yeah,
it's the last one. Look when you saw him when
he was What was event was he at? Was it?
The wasn't the super Bowl, but when he was it
was a big event. I forget which one. It was
about a year ago where he was performing either at halftime,

(11:01):
I want to I don't know what it was. It
was an NBA, NFS something it was and they didn't
show it, And I'm like, how do you not show it?
And Ozzie's like singing and he's standing in a walker
right like Wally. I'm like, oh my goodness. And he
was doing some songs from one of his new albums
that that Patient number nine album, and he did a
couple of songs they did and they didn't show it,
and I'm it was like, how do they not show it?

(11:22):
Especially when I remember seeing like just a little bit
like Ozzie's in a walker. I'm like, Ozzie's not gonna
be doing concerts much longer, man, Yeah, how do you
not show that? And then here we are, you know,
a couple of years later and he has the Farewell
show with Sabbath.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Now, this article says there was an NBA halftime performing
might be okay during the season or New Year's Eve.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
It was a big event, like maybe it was All
Star Game or something where they just didn't show it,
Like whoever decided we're not gonna show Ozzie singings, Like
so wait, so he's just doing it in the arena,
like Ozzy's showing up to not not gonna be on TV.
You're just gonna do it for the people in the arena. Really,
that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
So you're saying it was a ten hour concert over
the weekend and there was no Michael MacDonald.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
No, no, Michael, there was no Michael McDonald.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Christopher Kruz no, no Christopher Cross.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
No, there was no sailing, there was no uh, there was.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
No did people get there?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
There was no Al Stewart here.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
The Catlan is an island. How did they get there?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, there was a very long cruise. All these guys
played an eighties cruise.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Is that what you said?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Tom cruise was there?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yes, of course Tom cruise would be no.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
No, they played an eighties cruise. It took off from
New York and then landed and they just said, let's
just go on and do the concert again. And that's
what we do.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
So they got off the not related to the Golden
Girls cruise, they did they dis oh the Golden Girls cruse?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
No? No, no, uh yeah. That was always had that
idea for for a movie script, like a totally killer
eighties cruise where all these bands show up and they
do songs, but they all get killed by by a
murderer who wants to kill all these bands because I
want you want to get even with them for you
know not a screenplay idea. Yes, it's like one of
those five crazy sci fi shows, right called Totally Killer
Eighties Chris pat and Pending where like and you get

(12:58):
all these eighties bands because they're all older now, so
they'll all do it, and and they go, they're on
this they're on the ship and they do songs obviously
because they want to do songs. So hair bands you
can have good disguises, yeah, yeah, like deaf Leopard and
it would be there and they would all get killed,
like and I think I think my idea was people
they were moving a zoo at the same time on
the ship, right, So that's why it's gonna be for

(13:20):
sci fi because it's door and shirt NADOs there. So
they're moving a zoo in addition to on this show
because they have there's plenty of room below decks, and
like deaf Leopard goes and they do their songs an
actual leopard, right. But then that's the thing is def
Leopard gets killed by leopards that the bad guy lets
loose and he kills them all, like, oh my goodness,
def leopards killed by a bunch of leopards because this

(13:42):
guy wants to get even with all these bands because
he stole all their songs. And then in the eighties
there are enough channels out there. This actually has legs,
So of course you kidn't be like, oh my god,
what a great show.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
That way, if you were a waiter in West l A.
This is the screenplay that when you would keep in
the backs and when somebody famous comes to your table,
you introduce it.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
In the very beginning, you'd see cameo and a character
would say, oh, it's probably the last time we'll see them, right,
And that's the only time you would see them.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
You mean the person cameo or somebody cameo.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
That the last time you would see the cameo. Did
word up? Word up? It's the call word that you
just wait. That's the only time they cameos, the only
time you see them. That's there you go, There you go,
and that that's a movie right there, there you go.
All born from this see could work. Well, there's one
segment it could work. There you go, There you going. There,
there's a movie exit. How about a frescat Jason Smith
Steve to say, you're in for Mike Harmon, congratulations on

(14:37):
some kind of career for Ozzy Man. That was something.
But coming up next, we'll get back into the biggest
sports event of the weekend. And it simply was someone
taking a picture.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Eighties.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, sure, we'll play pet Shop Boys for some reason.
It was simply someone getting photographed at a place that
was a little weird. And then is the biggest sporting
event of the week Why, We'll tell you next right here,
this is Fox Sports Radio. Pet Shop Boys did not
play at this concert, thought you know, because I won.

(15:11):
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the list. They were secret.

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Speaker 2 (16:11):
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Steve de say you're in for Harmon now, Hobo. Uh,
we'll get to Lebron James in a second, because we
have never been closer to a Lebron James trade than
we are right now. But you know, just you know,
checking social media, Steve, It's it's kind of weird.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Here we are ten thirty at night, and West Coast clearly,
once it gets me, like six seven o'clock at night,
the West Coast takes over Twitter, and I'm wondering, why
is Phil Couzy trending? Okay, why okay, Impire? He must
have had some kind of Angel Hernandez light game, so okay,
and he, you know, home played umpire for tonight's Giants
Phillies game. So I go and I look at some

(16:50):
of the calls he made tonight, and I just watched
the calls he made, and Bryce Harper's at bat in
the eighth inning, and the first two pitches. One pitch
is maybe at six inches off the ground strike. The
next pitch is about a foot out of the strike
zone up in Harper's eyes, and it's a strike. And

(17:10):
I'm like, this is Enrico Palazzo calling strikes and close
but it's not even close. And I see a couple
of other calls and you see that how far out
of the box it is. And it's my goodness, but
these two calls on Bryce Harper, like this is like
five years ago. Bryce harp would have turned and gotten
thrown out of the game right away after just one
of these calls, but two back to back, where it's

(17:32):
where I mean, I don't know what to do. Look,
And being a Mets fan, am I glad the Giants?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
One?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Of course I am, because you know, our a game
clerk now, a game out of first place. But wow,
I see these calls and I go, hey, I feel
your pain on this Philadelphia or some of those.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Bad Sadly, it's not just this one umpire and it's
gotten to the point where some of the analysts of
the cable games are saying, well, ABS would have had
something to say about that. In other words, the automatic
ball strike system that is being used in the miners,
that was tested in spring training this year, that is
not yet in the majors. Yeah, it would be getting

(18:09):
a workout with these umpires, and I think it's the
best for the game the sooner it gets here, because
we're not going to get challenges on every ball strike.
And we saw in spring training when there is a challenge,
it's taking care of quickly and it doesn't delay the
game and you get the.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Call right now.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
So people, and I'm talking about umpires, people who work
behind the plate need to get over themselves and realize
this is best for baseball. The umpires are not being replaced.
It's been a misnomer this whole time to call them
roboms coming in the future. No, still, somebody has to
call safe out at home or the fair foul. I mean,

(18:48):
administrate the game from behind home plate.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
You're going to be sitting in an easy chair going,
oh yeah whatever when you need me to be call.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Every ball strike in the future same as they do now.
It's just for these idiotic ball strike calls that you
and I now, especially from centerfield cameras can see, are bad.
They'd get corrected.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, but if you're the Phillies, like you don't have
to like do you have to waste a challenge? Like, hey,
we only have a couple of challenges. Yeah, we won
those two, but we lost the other twelve. That Phil
cuz he kept calling balls out of the strike zone,
Like I really, I mean, I look at some of
the stuff going on, and granted I've just seen some
of the calls on Bryce Harper, but I see where
here's you know, the box and where the balls are?

(19:30):
I go, Wow, is this really the game he had?
Was it really? Was it really this one sided? Did
Phil Cuz he win this game for the Giants tonight
over the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
He's been in baseball for a while, so I don't
know if there's a mandatory retirement age of that's gonna
coincide with before the ABS system comes in.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
He's the one in that famous highlight that gets hit
in the head. He's the first base umpire in the
Mets game. I thought, was it Lindor who hits a
ground ball up the middle and I forget who is
makes the play and turns and throws the first and
it's and it's Cuzy in the head. I'm pretty sure
that's who that is. I know, baby, he's getting getting
even with with people. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's just as objective as I can be as a
fan of the sport. The sooner you can correct those calls.
And remember how long it took the NFL to go
to my place, And it wasn't quick in the least
when it started.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
This would be different for baseball now. We have never
been closer to a Lebron James trade than we are
right now this moment in time, especially after what we
saw this past weekend. We're in the fourth of July.
There's video and picture of Lebron James showing up at
the Cleveland Cavaliers practice facility. Well wait, wait, wait what what? Yeah,

(20:39):
this happened on the fourth of July. We have never
been closer to a Lebron trade. You know. The backdrop
of what's going on right now is Lebron's future with
the Lakers. At best, it's this year and then he's done.
He opted into a fifty two million dollars deal. I've
told you for the last week. The Lakers are daring
him to ask for a tree. They're not making moves

(21:02):
all the only things they can do or say, well,
we're gonna try to see if Deandraten's a lottery ticket.
We can't build around Luca yet because you're taking up
over a third of our salary cap. They want. If
Lebron James said he wanted a deal, the Lakers would
trade him and Lebron would leave. But it's gotta be finessed, right.
This can't be a trade that just Lebron demands a
trade and they try to make it happen.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
There's an ego involved here.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
There's for both sides, right, because they Lebron wants La
to be his second home when he's done playing, because
he's got a you know, as started his business production
come out here. So it's gotta be okay. And this
is why you had the statement that Rich Paul put
out when Lebron opted in, Hey, we're excited to be here,
but Lebron wants to win. Want to make sure the

(21:45):
Lakers are doing this, And the Lakers clearly are saying
well yeah, because they want to be a championship team.
And as soon as Lebron left, they would take that
fifty million dollars and make a move for whoever they
they know these these are the two or three guys
we want to team up with Luca and we can go.
We're gonna go get these guys right away. But they
can't because they don't have the money. And they're gonna

(22:05):
sit back and dare Lebron to ask for a trade
because they're gonna continually that's their own attack at that.
They're gonna subscribe the philosophy if we don't have a
lot of money. So these are the moves we're gonna make,
and this is what the season's gonna be Lebron. And
they want Lebron to say, I want out, you gotta
trade me. But there's only one place he can go,

(22:25):
and I've told you for the last year he's gonna
finish in Cleveland. It's the only place he can go where,
no matter how it finishes, he finishes on and up swing.
Because if he goes someplace to try to grab a
championship and it doesn't work, it's gonna look like, oh,
it's a failure, and the optics for Lebron the end
of his career are gonna be horrible. But if he
goes to Cleveland and they don't win, well, I'm finishing

(22:46):
at home, right. He started as a kid from Akron,
got drafted by the Cavaliers, he left, he went back,
he left again. It's the only place he could finish
in theory. Could he finish with the Knicks, Yeah, but
if things go bad for the Knicks, it's gonna be awful. Right,
he could go to Dallas and go places. But if
they don't win, it's going to be awful. If the
Cavaliers don't win, it will still be all right for

(23:06):
Lebron because I'm finishing at home this year, next year. Now,
what could cause this to be accelerated is that now
the Cavaliers are pretty good, but obviously they're missing something
they couldn't They couldn't deal with the pressure sixty three
wins season out in the second round of the playoffs.
Getting Lebron James would help because clearly Lebron is a
guy that can fill the stat sheets. Still, he's still

(23:27):
a top player in the league. The Cavaliers have enough
enough depth that they can trade best offense in the NBA.
They can trade a couple of bits to get Lebron James,
and as we saw with Kevin Durant and the Lakers. Hey,
we can make a seven to eighteen trade to make
all the money work. Right. So this is where maybe
for Lebron going home to Cleveland takes a little bit
more of a of a of a bit of accelerated

(23:51):
timeline because they can win next year. Hey, he sees
the Eastern Conference. It's just the Knicks and maybe Orlando
if they rise up. Because the Celtics are hurt, the
Indiana paces hurt. Yeah, I could get back there and
I get to go home. I control the narrative.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
And then you bring Chris Bosh.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Sure way way you can come back. Absolutely and Lebron.
It's not just oh, I'm calling the shots for the Cavaliers, Hey,
him coming in. This would take the pressure off of
the Calves, would allow them to play a little bit
more under the radar because Lebron would take up all
the oxygen in the room and he could take on
that role of I'm the older, wiser guy. I'm here,

(24:29):
I'm home. I'm gonna gonna give you all my secrets
for the for the a long career. This is my
last stop. I know it's my last stop. This would
work for both sides. Obviously, the Cavaliers have to get
over him leaving a couple of times. But this would work,
and they're Lebron, who never does anything without having some
sort of reason. Four, Why is he shown with all

(24:53):
the trade rumors going on and he's back in Cleveland
and he's back at their practicility. Oh there's nothing to this. No, no, no,
he's letting us know, and he's trying to put that
out there that either there's some sort of back channel
discussions that have started, or hey, hey, Lakers, you want
to trade me? See this picture, Look at me so
happy here at Cavalier's facility. Let's make it happen. We can,

(25:15):
we can clearly broker this and we can make me
back to the Cavaliers work. And so this is either hey,
a signal that he said, because look, he sends signals
through the media, players do this all the time, or
that maybe things have started a little bit and I'm
going to continue the ball rolling. Get everybody used to
the idea, get everybody on board with me going back
to Cleveland. The Lakers aren't going to completely make out

(25:36):
the deal because they're not going to get Oh it's
not like they're gonna get Donovan Mitchell in return, but
they'll get a couple of really nice players. Lonzo ball available,
maybe they'll make the sure he is maybe, maybe they'll
make the money, and Jello ball is available to uh,
maybe they'll make the money.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Maybe it's a trade and strict shows. Oh of course.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like they'll get he's not available for NBA half. So
we saw that Sabbath did their last concert. Would you
be okay with coming in and playing some sort of
John Tesh like set for us right now, as long
as you pay a little bit of round ball rock,
a little bit of your own stuff, a new song,
and then a Sabbath cover. But you can see how

(26:15):
this can work.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
And this would be good for the Cavs and great
for Lebron and great for the Cleveland fans, and great
for the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
And no matter what the Lakers got out of this,
it would work because either it would be because of
what they got out from under Yeah, it would be
either expiring deals in which then they can use too
we'll build a team, or hey, if we get a
couple of young players that we like, Hey, we like
we want to build around player Rex and player Why
we think these guys could play well with Luca right,
So let let's do that. Let's make this work. And
if worst comes to worse again, you just had seven

(26:45):
players involved in a trade, or seventeen involving the trade
for Kevin Durant. You can get seven to ten teams
involved if you need to move to Lebron j and
in fact, I'm sure Lebron will insist on it. I
want to be a part of the biggest trade. Ten
times he calls Rich Paul, Hey, Rich, is you gotta do?
We gotta get at least eight.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
But but you have clients on all the teams.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Therefore, I don't want to go to eight and then
someone can top me with nine at some point. No,
let's let's let's let's let's make sure it's hard to
break that record. Get get those ten teams involved.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Really, it starts with the Lakers calling out to Cavs
and say, okay, Ricky Rubio, how much Let's start there,
and then we can build a trade off that.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Are you still paying Brad Dougherty? Is there any money
going on? Because we could we could easily take that over.
It'll work, And then Keith van Horns contract and I'll
get involved because that comes up every three or four
years Keith Van Horn's contract.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Doesn't play and John contact somehow as well. Don't you
agree that nothing? And I agree there are merits to
all of this as an idea on paper, nothing as
far as Lebron movement happens unless he takes a ridiculously
less amount of money because he shouldn't have for competitive reasons.

(27:57):
He shouldn't have opted in to the fifty two men,
because again from a basketball standpoint, it tightens the grip
on what your front officus can do because the first statement,
remember that they came out, is he's really going to
look and see how the Lakers ring competitive, and he's
going to keep an eye ut well, keep an eye
on it. Congratulations. They can't do much now because of you.

(28:20):
But the guy who publicly has said I want to
be owner of an NBA team when they go to
Vegas needs every fifty million he can get. It's not
chump change to him, even though he's got a billion.
He can use all the I mean, I was told
that when Magic Johnson bought into the Dodgers, for example,
that was writing a check for fifty million. This is
simply opting in for one season in LA he's going

(28:43):
to get that amount. Aside from all the off the
court stuff that he has earned, He's going to pile
it all up and be.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
An NBA owner. I would say this that if the
say the Cavaliers, would make the trade, right, I don't
think Lebron's going to go and say, yeah, I'm gonna
play this year for fifty two million and then see
what's up after this year. I believe there would be
some sort of two year deal or some sort of
a shop to his contract, like what the Clippers did

(29:10):
with James Harden. Like we would say, okay, I'll take
I'll take seventy five million for the next two years
and announce as a two year is what's gonna happen,
I would say, because look, clearly, Lebron is not one
more year and done right he can. He's still playing
at a at a periphery top ten level in the league.
It's just, you know, for the Lakers, it's not it's
not where they need where they want to be. Right now.

(29:31):
He's gone from being, hey, the team is built around you,
to hey, we got to get you out man.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
The salary, we got to get the salary out. Yeah,
because you can't build for the future when somebody's opting
in at the end of their career at that amount.
That's just the price you paid to get him in
and to have this relationship with him over the years,
a relationship by the way that I should say again
out loud, has lasted seven years with the Lakers. Five
of the seven years he's either been bounced in the

(29:57):
first round or missed.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
The playoffs entirely. I mean, look, the title of twenty
twenty is there, and I know I know that people
want to say, oh, it didn't It's actually the hardest
title to win because they gave up their home court advantage. Right,
you gave up You played all year for home court advantage. Right.
The thunder will tell you what it feels like to
have Game seven of the NBA Finals on your floor.
You gave that up, you lost that, and you still
won the NBA time.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
But that doesn't make for the other six years.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
No, well, I don't. I would in the Lakers history.
That don't know, in my in my history, I'm like,
let's see so one title. But then fifty years of saying, yeah, okay,
it's not the Knicks, I'll take Yeah, I'll take that.
That sounds gonna go, But I'm telling you we've never
been closer to a trade than we are right now.
You know, both sucks. I kind of feel it's like
the end. It's like at the end of season three

(30:43):
of The Wire when Stringer and Avon, who have been
you know, tight their whole lives, but then they know
that they got to get each other.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It's another spoiler alert on the show.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well it's only season it's season three. There was five
seasons of The Wire where it's like you could tell
like they still talk to each other, like they're like
they're tight and they're still buds, but you know they're
each did but they're each trying to kill each other.
They each have plans in place to kill the other
person so they could survive. That's kind of what the
Lakers and Lebron are right now. They're like Stringer and Avon, like, yeah,
it seems like they're still close, but yeah, but not really.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Like the two spies in the old cartoon, always trying
to get each other.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Did you Spy versus Stato?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Right now, Steve has what's trending in the wide world
of sports heroo? What's going on? Tonight.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Let's start with the NBA as we had. My goodness,
do we have money exchanged? Staging hands. Paulo Bancaro is
off to a great start, to say the least in
his NBA career, and twenty six points a game last season. Well,
the Orlando Magic gave ban Cao a five year MAX
extension worth at least two hundred and thirty nine million dollars.

(31:45):
It has been discussed on this show before that things
are so crazy in the actual salary cap rules that
it could actually be worth more in the future. We
have to say it's worth at least that including the option.
Bankkara was the league's Rookie of the Year a couple
of years ago and then an All Star of the
season after that. The Clippers traded Norman Powell to the Heat.
John Collins goes to the Clippers. It was a three

(32:07):
team deal Utah against Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and a
second rounder. Powell and Collins are entering the final year
of their contracts. The Knicks officially hired Mike Brown as
head coach. The Pacers confirmed that Tyrese Halliburton will miss
so all of next season with the ruptured Achilles seventy
six ers. You're resigning gar Kyle Lowry. This would be
his twentieth NBA season. Philadelphia's Summer League team in Utah

(32:31):
was beaten eighty nine seventy eight by Oklahoma City as
first rounder VJ. Edgecom did not play tonight due to
a Bruce thom He had a great game over the
weekend Thundergard Nicola Tompicic, who was out all last year
due to injury. Two of thirteen shooting tonight, six fouls.
The Salt Lake Summer League ends Tuesday. San Francisco Summer
League ends Tuesday. Vegas Summer League starts Thursday. Two WNBA

(32:54):
games Tonight Atlanta over Golden State. Phoenix won by thirty
against Dallas Alyssa Thomas a triple by the way. Sunday
in that league, Seattle won at New York and in
the loss, Brianna Stewart was four of seventeen shooting. Connecticut
lost again a home lost to Vegas yesterday. Connecticut is
two and sixteen and Chicago lost again yesterday to a
seventeen and two Minnesota team. Angel Reese in defeat had

(33:17):
sixteen points, seventeen rebounds, six assists.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Way more if they centered the free throw line.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
More six turnovers. As well, she was named to the
All Star Game as a reserve, one of the twelve names.
Caitlin Clark, by the way, is one of the captains
with Nafisa Collier. They're going to draft their rosters on Tuesday.
Angel Reese is out there for Captain Caitlin Clark to draft.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I want her to make her the first pick, first pick,
first pick.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Indianapolis also is going to be the host of the
actual WNBA All Star Game on the nineteenth. Baseball's All
Star Game is a week from Tuesday on Fox TV
in Atlanta, and Georgia native Byron Buxton will be in
next Monday's home run derby. He of the Twins. By
the way, Atlanta's own Ronald Acunya will be in the
home run derby as well. The National's name Miguel Cairo

(34:07):
as interim manager as Dave Martinez was fired Sunday. The
late game tonight Well, the Angels won with a run
in the bottom of the ninth on a basis loaded
walk six' five Over. Texas San francisco got two runs
in the bottom of the eighth boast on on fielders'
choices for a three to one win Over. Philadelphia The
Idol mets just a game back of The fils for
first in THE Nl. East arizona beat You darvish In

(34:30):
San diego six'. To Three all star second basement Of
the dbacks Could tell marte was scratched from. The lineup
cleveland ended in ten game losing streak seven. To Five.
At houston toronto won it's ninth straight eight. To four
At The. White sox milwaukee Beat the dodgers nine.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
To one, THANK. You steveo coming, up next we got
a big milestone in baseball and something to tell you ABOUT.
The nba if you don't THINK the nba needs a
big change when it comes to, one thing. You're crazy
that's next. Right here This Is Fox.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Sports radio be sure to catch live Editions Of The
Jason smith Show With mike harmon weekdays at Ten pm
eastern Seven Pm Pacific Fox.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Sports Radio The Jason smith Show Is steve desager And For.
Mike harmon not, a hobo by, the way it's a
non hobo Night on. Hobo week it's been a non,
hobo night non. Hobo, week, wait no does say she's. A,
hobo no we'll figure Out. ON wednesday i.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Don't think any anchor is a hobo because they have their.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Own room, Oh nice so baseball before we get. To
Basketball manny machado tonight hit number two thousand and two
thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
For his career.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Home run for hit number two thousand, and one thirty three,
years old needs now less than a thousand hits to
get to. Three thousand oh is he going to be the?
Next GUY because i, always, SAY hey i don't know
that we're going to see another three thousand. Strikeout pitcher
three thousand, HITS guys i don't know how many more
we're going to. See them it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Too.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Hard man i'm gonna. Say No For, manny machado he's
gonna he averages around one hundred and sixty five hits.
A year he's a. Bigger guy he's gonna have to
stay healthy years thirty three through, thirty eight where he's
gonna need nine hundred. ISH hits i don't see. That
happening I'm The manny michado. Three THOUSAND it's i don't
see it happening. FOR him i think most people that

(36:21):
you bring up. THEIR names, I Mean mike trout was
always when people, Talked, About Okay albert pooles might get
close to seven hundred home runs if he has a really.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Long career it turned out He Did. Mike trout, they,
assume well look how fast he got to one hundred
and two Hundred Homer mike trout Is certainly and you
know what Makes the Hall of famer's careers so impressive
is because most people can't. Do that and so when
you had the idiocy of people talking about the three,
thousand strikeouts, You Know trek schouble is, just okay, He's

(36:53):
great but at.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
The moment, of games Why, not, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
At the moment They Are tim linscombe do you not
even remember? Him anymore he was dominant and nobody even
talks about, him OR as, i say. Remembers him let's
just hold off on, The oh i'm pretty sure that
guy's gonna get to three thousand and that to three. Thousand,
strikeouts no it's really really impressive for. A reason, in
fact isn't it pretty much more rare than a. Perfect

(37:19):
game it's like that type of height of Heights what
kershaw did with the three, thousand k's, for example.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Twenty guys in the history of. The game it's like
a perfect Game In Major. League baseball so No From.
Anny machado now this FROM. The nba. Right Now, kevin
durant we knew was getting traded To, the rockets and
over the weekend we saw the rumors come true that
instead of, just Hey Here's covin, durant trade seven teams
were involved in.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
This Trade, SEVEN wait i thought you just said seven
teams were involved in.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
One trade seven teams were Involved seven. DURRANT trade. I
did i did, Say. THAT stevo i did say that
if this doesn't tell YOU that, nba TRADES the nba
it needs to look in and completely revamp how trades.
Are made nothing, else does because this is just. Utter
ridiculous
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