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Jason Smith & Steve DeSaegher discuss a potential divorce between LeBron James & the Lakers in 2026.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:23):
Be sure to subscribe so you never miss our very
best Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. And you know, Steve,
you know I gotta start. I gotta call you out
on this. You know you texted me earlier today and
you said, Hey, bet the house on Tarik Schooble today,
Tigers at home day, best pitcher in baseball against the Maritors,
whatever you need, put it all on Schoolble. You tell

(00:45):
me all of that today.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
All I needed to hear was the first part of
the sentence you texted me today, And I know whatever
follows that is completely false. Although the guy doesn't have
many bad outings. Hearing the bit of the Detroit Tigers broadcasts,
they said, I think we have to go back to April,
since the last time this guy had a bad start.
We're at mid July here, so yeah, it's notable that

(01:08):
it's been a while, and I guess even he is
due for one of these, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
And the funny thing is is that we started watching
this game in the top of the fifth in because
you're my wife from Detroit. You know, the whole family's
Tiger fans. They're all Tigers.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
It was one of the one Detroit going the fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I mean, it has been an unbelievable run for Detroit
Sports in the last couple of years with the Lions
being so good and now the Tigers come out of
nowhere to their run last year. Now that the best
team in baseball. Really, it's it's been in the Pistons
having you know, finally there they're good in in basketball
again working on the Red Wings. But Michigan wins the
National Championship obviously, and they're still really good. Number one

(01:47):
recruit in the country. Like Detroit Sports has been off
the hook for what they've been able to celebrate. So
we come up today, she goes, Hey, is the is
and I love this? This This is my wife different
to my wife and my dad. Oh oh the games
on Apple TV, right, I'll get it up. I'm like, wow, Okay,
where's my dad is like, okay, so how do I
how do I find the I just click on the
apple to oh my dad, Okay, dadd, I'll tell you
to find it. So we turn on the game at

(02:08):
the top of the fifth inning, and you know, and
and the Mariners got a scratch run and then Reguez
goes deep and they put up another run, and it's
it's four to one.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Is an understatement. It was four forty he clocked. I
mean that was when he hit it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
He stopped and he stared, and look, it's not been
an unbelievable last year or two from from j Rod.
But he hits that home run. All of a sudden,
my wife goes click, I go, what happened to just
I'm a jinx? The game was fine until we turned
it on.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
It's a and then she tuned back in and the
ninth inning, no cause it's been a seven run top
of the ninth for Seattle, twelve three, the lead at
Detroit and not over bases loaded, two outs for the man.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
You told me, Hey, what do you think cal Rally's
gonna hit two more home runs and knock in five runs?
You told me, bet the Tigers today. Bet everything on it.
I bet the Tigers. Look what I know.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm more amazed. I think that the guy's been hitting
close to suit two seventy this year that I even
am mmased at the power, because this is a guy
who could have serious power and go with a two
to twenty batting average the whole season. All the accolades
he's getting and the MVP votes, Okay, fine, if he's
runner up this year, all of that well deserved for Calrowly.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, I mean, this is a guy who's going to
go into the All Star break with at least thirty seven,
you know, with two more home runs today. I mean,
you're dear talking about a guy that, yeah, being leading
the league in home runs thirty eight home runs. It's
not crazy to say by the All Star break he
could be at forty home runs. I mean, really, he's

(03:38):
a he's on pace right now. I mean, I mean
he's on pace right now. I believe for for sixty
five home runs. I think is where he's at right now.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I mean, really, Barry Bonds has the record by the
way home runs before an All Star break of thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I mean he could have forty home runs by the
All Star break now.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Granted some season start earlier than bye. I'm still impressed.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes, I mean it for it could be forty for
the big dumper by the All Star pars.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
And this was a gold Gloves catcher last year. First off,
it's somebody at the catcher position doing this where you know,
let's be honest, where you wears you down. He had
about five hundred and fifty at bats last year and
still had a thirty homer, one hundred RBI season and
a Gold Glove. And he's been even better this year.
He has more homers right now than he had all

(04:26):
last year.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I think he has more homers than he has hits.
I think he's I think, but big Baseball night tonight.
Obviously we got the Dodgers the Giants coming up later
on last weekend before the All Star break. But I
just want for all of the talk and now that
you know, obviously the offseason in the NBA has been
going exactly how Lebron James wants it to everybody's talking

(04:49):
about him. I want for everybody who thinks Lebron James
is not going to get traded. I just want to
throw I just want to throw this out there. I
want to be very calm. I want to very quick
because we I've told you for the last couple of weeks. Hey,
this is the closest we've ever seen to Lebron being traded,
and the Lakers are daring him to ask for a trade.
They are just continuing to up the annie to get

(05:11):
Lebron to say I want out and they'll trade him
back to Cleveland. Okay, just understand I'm gonna go through here,
especially coming off the latest today that Ramona Shelburne and
Brian Windhorst worked on for ESPN and ESPN dot Com
on the changing of the guard for the Lakers from
Lebron to building around Luka Doncic. Okay, so let me

(05:31):
just let me just recap some stuff, and I'm gonna
ask a very simple question. Okay, Lebron James, who has
stirred the drink For the entirety of his NBA career.
The NBA has been all about him. He has enjoyed
it being all about him. He has been the biggest
star for twenty years, unchallenged, unchallenged in this sport. He
is the biggest. He is the biggest star on the planet.

(05:54):
Of the last twenty years, he's outlasted Tom Brady, He's
outlasted Christiano Ronaldo, He's outlasting Leoni Lessie. He's outlet. He
is the guy. He is the guy. This is what's
going on now since the season, or since the Lakers
got Luka Doncich and what is put out by Ramona
Shelburn and Brian Winhorse today. So they go get Luka

(06:15):
Doncich and they did not give Lebron any notice. They
were trading Anthony Davis for Luka Doncic, ad who Lebron
brought in. They're both clutch sports, they're both really tight.
Right right after they get him, they try to get
Williams in the deal from the Hornets and it doesn't
go Lebron, who of course have been begging for a
center for a long time. The Lakers don't try to

(06:36):
get a center until after they go get Luka Doncic. Right,
they agree to sell the team to Mark Walter in June,
and Luka Doncic got a heads up and post the
congratulations on social media. Lebron James did not get the
same notice. Right, did Lebron get an extension? Height? We
still love you, we want to build around you, even
though we're not telling you what we're doing. No, no,
they said, one year you have to decide to opt

(06:59):
in or not. Of course he opting in for fifty
two million dollars this year. Nobody else is paying him.
He has been pushed to the side, and he has
since responded by showing up working out at the Cavaliers
facility on July fourth, pictures and videos of him wearing
a welcome home hat that he says, oh, no, no, no, no,
come on, it's just a hat said to my company,

(07:19):
I'm not wearing a welcome home hat around Cleveland for
any other reason.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Not.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Are you guys reading into it. As we have said,
Lebron doesn't do anything without any sort of forethought or plan.
To get this out there, he is trying to push
this narrative of okay, if you want to put if
he's doing this through the media because it's kind of
how he has to do it, because nobody wants to
look bad. Hey, Cleveland is where I can go. This
is where I get That's where I want to go.

(07:44):
And we have said from the beginning, that's why I
can be an NBA inside because I told her from
the beginning, the only place he can finish is Cleveland,
because if it doesn't, he doesn't win there, it can
still be a success, right, can still be a success
because he goes there to finish his career. He can win.
He can he can walk off with with laurels and
presents and all kinds of stuff. He can move and
be the guy that takes the pressure off the young players.

(08:07):
That's where he can go. Right. So I ask you
this now after I just outlined all of that. With
what's going on in the offseason, how the Lakers are
moving away from Lebron, and you've seen different reports every
day from different insiders. The relationship between Lebron and the
Lakers is not there. The Lakers are waiting for him
to demand to trade. They both would would do everything

(08:28):
they can to make it happen. This is an everyday thing.
There is so much smoke around this story. Lebron could
simply put it to bed by saying, I'm a Laker,
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm here, I'm
excited to win a championship. Lebron has not done that.
Lebron has not done that. The Lakers could put out
and say, hey, stop all this We're not trading Lebron.
He's here fifty two million, We're making a big run

(08:49):
this year. This is what's going on. Instead, the message
has been, yeah, you opt it in because okay, it's
a bad deal for us, and the end of next
spring that's gonna be it. We're going to be done
and we are walking away from you. Again what I
said like a couple months ago. So again I could
be an NBA insider, but I'm leading to this, Steve,
because I ask you this question, and for anybody who
thinks Lebron's not going to get traded, this is the

(09:09):
question I want to ask, after all of what's gone on,
after the Lakers have done so much to minimize him
and to minimize his impact and his standing with the team,
can he really come back and play this season for
the Lakers at this point with all that's going on,
can after all of this, can he really come back

(09:30):
and play this year with the Lakers be happy and
be happy being a guy that's just shunted to the
side for Luka Doncic. That's my question. And if you
can answer yes, well I disagree. I think you're absolutely wrong,
But the answer is no, there's no way. This is
not who Lebron is, it's not what he does. All
this is going on, there's no way he comes back.
And I'm telling you I think a trade by the

(09:51):
end of July, we might see it. We might see
it by July thirty.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
First, it is, and we've talked about this. It is
the dream scenario for Lebron to finish his NBA career
where it started in Cleveland. Once he opted in, that
made that monumentally more difficult, especially to turn trade before
camp starts. Once you opt in to as you say,

(10:17):
the over fifty million for this Okay, maybe that's attractive
as an expiring contract at the trade deadline or something
like that. First off, there's a tiny handful of people's
who could even go after the type of money that
would be attached to this player, much less have the
interest in him having him short term. But also the

(10:37):
Lakers have other things on their plate, such as what
you mentioned Luca being their guy, and in a month
or two they've got to sit down with him because
he's going to be eligible for an extension of up
to four years two hundred million plus. That's the person
that is their focus. Understandably, I don't know the mechanics
of how Lebron can be traded before.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh well, first things first, he's gonna say, what's been
the record for most teams involved in the trade? Seven?
Kevin Durant, I want ten? Ten. I want ten too,
And seriously, it may take ten teams because of all
the craziest Look, just go to the ESPN NBA trade machine.
Try to make a trade for Lebron and the Cavaliers happen.
It's almost impossible, right, but it can be done. It

(11:22):
would have to be around MOBILEI or Garland plus something
else going back. Maybe the Lakers would have to part
with a Dalton connect or maybe it's a bigger deal
where hey, if they get Garland.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Gee, would the Lakers ever part with Dalton connect? I
can't think of a deal out there that it would
have involved him.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
They said we're keeping him forever. He's a superstar. Or
it could be something where if they're getting Garland back,
then it's going to be the same a simultaneous deal
of Austin Reeves going someplace else. They can make it work, right,
but this is kind of who it has to be
centered around. They can make that work. Now, the biggest
thing is are the Cavaliers. Okay with saying, all right,
we need to do something to our team to be

(12:02):
all right with bringing Lebron in, thinking we could be
a Lebron away from the championship, I can easily convince
myself for that, because you know Lebron, he doesn't want
to play an expiring contract. Does want to hit free
agency and have nobody give him any sort of offer
in the offseason. He's gonna he's He would say, listen,
I'll come there, give me a two year deal, I'll
stay however you want to. However it works out money wise,

(12:24):
but clearly Cleveland needs a little bit more than they
had this season. Lebron coming in could take the pressure
off of them because hey, in the second round of
the postseason was way too much against the Indiana Pacers.
So I can see it very easily the Cavaliers, and
it's a great story. They get back to being the
one of the pre eminent franchises in the NBA. They win,
they win the offseason, they win the regular season, they

(12:45):
become must see TV, and again Lebron will probably play
a couple of more years, and maybe because he's still
a periphery top tennis player in the NBA. He's not
gonna make his teammates better, but he's gonna make big
shots and he's gonna make big plays like he's done
throughout the past few years. So I can see it
easily making sense. And if right now, behind the scenes
it is being back channeled like crazy, I would not

(13:08):
be surprised. But the bottom line is, every few days
there's a there's a new entry into the Lebron James
Lakers offseason storyline that ramps up the urgency of a
trade happening. And today was Here's the column written by
Ramona shell Burnen and Brian Windhors for ESPN dot com
detailing how the Lakers are moving on to Lebron, moving

(13:30):
on to Luka Doncic, and moving away from Lebron James.
Like what the big line from the article is, Hey,
spring of twenty twenty six is Lebron's end date with
the Lakers. Like He's not gonna want to play this
season in Los Angeles if that is the case, right.
He wants he wants to push his future. He wants
to make sure that I'm retiring on my terms and
not because no one's gonna sign me. I'm not gonna

(13:52):
go out being a guy that they show the door
at the end of the season two. That's not gonna happen.
I mean, I can see by July thirty first, I
can see Lebron doing a Cleveland uniform thing, and and
and and and all of a sudden it shakes the
NBA world. That can happen in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
And on my terms would be what you say if
he and his representation asks for a two year deal,
that would be one year plus an option, then he
holds the cards. After that what might be last year
before we break, I can say it is now a
final at Detroit. Mariners have beaten the Tigers twelve to three,
two home runs for cal Raley. He has thirty eight

(14:30):
and the Red Sox have won their eighth straight on
a two run homer bottom of the ninth off the
Rays closer Pete Fairbanks five to four, Boston over Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Woo, there we go, all right, Thank you Steve though
Jason Smith, Steve de Sager, Hey, a Lebron trade by
July thirty first, again, we're getting you. Just follow follow
the follow the tea leaves. Read the tea leaves. We're
getting there. He's not gonna stay being shunted to the side.
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Steve de Seger in for Mike Harmon tonight. Steve, you
have that breaking news on the basis loaded walk from
the Mets to Pete Alonzo. Do you need a few
minutes to get that in your fish and what's trending?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Faces loaded work, there's breaking news. It was in the
third inning, not the nine.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Just wow. I mean because the Mets don't hit with
runners in scoring positions, So I mean, I just want
to make sure that you know.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's just not trigonometry.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know that they actually didn't get a hit. They
need a basis loaded walk to get a run.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
My concern actually for the Mets is that they've got
code I singa back on the mound. He'd been out
so long on the injured list, It didn't have a
great rehab start in the miners, and there was a
rain delay at the start, and yet he's into the
third shut out ball early they are leading at Kansas
City one nothing, bottom of the third.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, we don't have enough time for my concerns with
the Mets right now, so we'll just waiting for the
All Star break. That's what I'm waiting, waiting for the
All Star break.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
You have concerns about the Mets, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
A couple, just just just a couple, Like you know,
the bottom half of the lineup is terrible, like that's
and the bullpen outside of Diaz is even worse. So
there's that. Outside of that, Hey, the Mets have no problems.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, they're only a game and a half back in
the first place Phillies.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, you know, but it's first of all, it's hard
to lose a double header. Secondly, it's hard to lose
a double header to a team ten games under five hundred.
Yet that's what the Mets did to the Orioles yesterday.
So there is that.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
And the Phillies are trailing early three to two at
San Diego bottom of the third and with all these
replacements for the All Star Game Tuesday. The Padre's got
another reliever in. That makes three relievers from the Padre
bullpen that are going to be in the All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Mark Davis is in and that was a surprise election.
I mean he's got a nasty matter from years ago. Yeah,
he's got a nasty hook.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Mark. I'll be excited to see him pitching. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Left, he's always bail out on that.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Hugh.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Oh, Tony won't be able to touch him. Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
We got a big story out of the NBA. So
if Lebron is getting traded we told a few minutes ago.
Look it happened by the end of this month. There's
no way after all that's gone on, is he really
coming back? Another guy that could be on the way out.
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Speaker 2 (19:22):
It's the old Dave Kneehouse that of course they used
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Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, what's we went back to Mark Davis thirty years ago,
going back to Dave kne House. Now we're all good.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
We're not going forward at all today.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's the nineties again. Wait a minute, the bad old days. Hey,
how's Kevin Brown doing tonight? I know he started tonight.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
He's not earning that hundred million You know, no one's
ever gonna have more than a one hundred million dollar
contract as an athlete. That's just the craziest thing.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Didn't Kevin Brown get a plane too? Right? Didn't get
did he get some kind of plane?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I know that you were able to ask for perks
as a big money free agent because when John Lester
signed his huge deal with the Cubs, I believe he
got a suite on every road trip in every city,
all to himself, plus plane tickets for relatives.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think he also had a rule that no, you
can't bunt against me because you can't do it. I'm
not gonna allow you. I can't. I can't go because
I can't feel it. We can't wait.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I can't and I won't throw over the first You can't.

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Speaker 2 (20:36):
What I did not realize until I saw the list
from the great Sarah Langs. Do you remember the name
Chris Davis? A decade ago?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Talk about overpaid, They're still paying Chris, I think there's
contract is still what that's like Bobby Benia on steroids.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
And I don't mean Biby Benie on. I mean like
the Bobby Benia contract on steroids.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
He had thirty seven at an All Star break. Mark
McGuire nineteen ninety eight, speaking of had thirty seven at
an All Star break and nineteen sixty nine, Reggie Jackson
had thirty seven homers by All Star break. Oo.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Man, I mean that's just such an outlier with Reggie
all those years ago, all the home runs. Yeah, because
you look at Reggie and you think, you know, you
have this memory of Reggie, and I do as a
kid of he was the most intimidating slugger. I'm a kid,
grow up, going, I don't pitch the Reggie Jackson It's
going to be a home run, Oh my god. And
he did a Reggie now and they go and he
was tiny. He was tiny, He wasn't big like these

(21:28):
other guys.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
And it was a huge swing. It was an intimidating presence.
It was a lot of strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I remember the clips from the nineteen seventy one All
Star Game. If you've never seen it, by the way
see it, because it's one Hall of Famer after another
was in the seventy one All Star Game, including Reggie Jackson,
who if there wasn't a light tower on top of
the roof at Old Tiger Stadium literally would have hit
it to another County home run he had that night.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
His bat speed was a blur, like that's where where
you understand what does batspeed do for you?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
And the bats swing related? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Oh my yeah, I mean he was good and this
is where you go. Okay, if a guy was coming
up from the miners now, you would say, okay, got
we gotta completely redo this swing. Okay, you're not gonna
be able to You're not gonna catch up to these
ninety eight mile an hour fast. Well, look, they do
throw harder now than they did in Reggie's day, but
they were still guys that through ninety five ninety eight
a lot. But his bat it was just like it
was like a whip when he brought that thing through

(22:20):
the strike zone and the ball would just fly off
of his bat and you see the power that he
would get on he would say, my goodness, how does
he do that? Like I watch like Bryce Harper right now,
and I just think he can at home runs one
handed if he wanted to, right. I look at Bryce
Harper's way more intimidating at the plate than Reggie Jackson was.
But this image of Reggie being such this, Oh my goodness,

(22:40):
I'm so afraid. Don't throw a strike, just walk him,
just walking.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Reggie was an All Star every year, seemingly for ten
fifteen years in a row, and an MVP and a
well earned mister October nickname with all his heroics not
only with the Yankees but Oakland before that in the postseason,
back when they didn't have wild card rounds and the such.
You really had to be a good team to enter
the postseason, and you were this close to the World

(23:05):
Series once you got into the playoffs. I did look
up the number of strike anyway. You had well over
fived five well over five hundred home runs.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
He said, they're gonna say, well over five hundred strikeouts
a season.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's just angue tied. Looking the strikeout totally, it's almost
two thousand and six hundred strikeouts for about twenty year career.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Okay, more career strikeouts Reggie Jackson or Nolan Ryan, who.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Had pitcher Nolan Ryan, But you did make me think.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, it's again lot more baseball. Cut up Steve Allot
the night in sports for you in a few minutes
in What's trending. But if the door is open for
Lebron James trade, I'm saying ignore this at your own
peril because all the signs are there for Lebron James trade.
What about Giannis? Remember it was just a month and
a half ago where when the reports came out that
he was directing his people to look into what could

(23:58):
be potential landing spots if he wanted to leave the Bucks.
And we haven't really heard anything over the course of
the past month or so except hey, the Bucks did
bring in Miles Turner. He had a big statement today
about joining the Bucks. He wanted to keep winning. He
liked that the Bucks trying to redo their team around Yannis,
and they brought in Turner, they bought out Damian Lillard.
They said, Okay, here's a hundred million dollars. You never

(24:18):
want to see you again. This is how we're doing it, Yannish.
But Yannis was asked on a podcast, hey are you staying?
What's your deal? Are you going to get traded. And
he says, people tell me every day. They're telling me
all the time about going to the Knicks. Which, yeah,
just keep calling Yannis. If you call him and tell
him to go to the Knicks, tell him the Knicks.
But when he's asked if he's gonna get traded or

(24:39):
stay in Milwaukee, these hey, you got to stay in Milwaukee,
and he goes, yeah, probably we'll see. Wait wait, wait,
so what is it? That's how he answers the question
is probably I love Milwaukee, but we'll see. Like that's
his answer is he's I am riding the complete middle
of this fence whether I'm gonna stay with Milwaukee or
want to get traded. Now, why have we not seen

(25:01):
any trade so far? Right, because this gets into the
big question of Giannis, gets into the big question of
the off seasons. Boy, we thought we would get so
many big trades. Now we still are.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
And well, it's not an expiring contract, like you know,
Luca was due for that extension and Dallas said, no,
we're not gonna marry him, so let's trade him. No,
Janna still has three more years on his deal.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, and and but Giannis is also unhappy, and he
wants to win and and clearly, look, hey, if I'm honest,
yes I want out because I've maxed out in Milwaukee. Right.
Are you really gonna You're gonna go through another rebuild
on the fly with other players They're gonna bring it. Really,
Miles Turner is a guy. No, Damian Lillard and Miles Turner.
Now you're over the top of the Eastern Conference. Come on, man,
I mean really.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
But the bigger question is, Okay, we thought we were
gonna go We're told what a crazy trade offseason.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
It's gonna be okay there. Once one trade goes down,
I think it's gonna get contagious, and then other trades
will happen because other players will become available to make
deals and more teams will get involved. Yeah, nine to
oh the Lebron. I guarantee you, Steve. At least ten
teams will be in the Lebron trade because they'll want
to break that record. It's not like Katie hold the
record for most teams involved in a trade. Come on, so,

(26:09):
but this is the thing.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Then after it is a tim team trade, somehow the
Katie Burner account will have a comment. I know it's
going to end.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Technically not the first guy to break the record, but
congratulations to Lebron. But Yannis, this statement from podcast tells
you exactly why we haven't had a trade and what
we need to get them to happen. Are you staying
in Milwaukee? I probably? I love Milwaukee. We'll see, okay,
so I don't feel great if Milwaukee, I don't feel

(26:39):
but I don't feel like the door has closed. But
what is happening and what we have seen in the
NBA the last five years, I'll tell you exactly why
there has been a trade so far is because stars
have to be the bad guys. It's that simple, right,
We've gone from Hey, both sides are not really getting along.
So a team says black, thank you, We're going to

(27:01):
look out and try to trade you. Okay, that's great.
There's offers that are exchange and a trade winds up happening.
Teams aren't actively gonna go out and trade their stars
because they know it's really difficult to get them back.
And maybe we can get a guy to buy in mentally,
maybe if it's a quick change we can put in.
Maybe it's a coaching change, maybe it's some sort of
player change, and teammate change. Maybe it's a new bit

(27:23):
of energy, but for whatever reason, teams are not going
to trade their start. They haven't. You see the last
five years when of all the big players, the big
star player's been traded, when they've all said I want out.
Damian Lillard wasn't traded till he said time for me
to go, right. Kevin Durant not traded until he said
time for me to go. James Harden, I'm not traded

(27:45):
till he said time for me to go. Right. These
are the biggest players that have been traded the last
few years, and they all understood might have to be
the bad.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Guy Nico and he says, look, good time for you
to go.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, well, yeah, that's time for you to go.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
But so how does he get to the Knicks? How
are we getting to the Knicks? Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Karl Anthony Townsend and and uh and mccal bridges. Come on,
see that's easy. I'll put that in the NBA trade machine.
That'll work for a second.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
But wasn't one of Giannis's answers, Nah, I mean literally nah.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
As far as the New York area teams, yeah no,
But look, whether it's the Knicks or someplace else.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
You know, he's got that wanderlust. But he's gotta be
the bad guy. The Bucks aren't gonna say, hey, we
get that you want out, so we're gonna look to
trade you. No, because if they can't make a trade,
they're all of a sudden they look bad. It's a
lack of interest in the franchise. The fan base gets upset,
they unplug Giannis unplugs because okay, they're gonna try to

(28:39):
trade him, but they couldn't. Why is he putting out
his best effort for the Bucks anymore? Teams don't do that, right.
If Jannis wants to get traded, if he says I
want out, watch how fast that trade happens. Watch how
fast other teams line up and say, okay, here's what
we have for you. It's Giannis will go get him.
But that's the one truth in the NBA the last
five years. If you are a star and you want

(29:01):
to get traded, you have to be the bad guy. Now.
It's not a great development in the NBA because clearly
due deal. I don't like the fact that a player
could just say nah, tight, I want out now a
player anymore? Okay, But that's what does it right? And
you have to go along with what a great strategy is.
And if it's a strategy that works, it's what you
have to do. And since we've seen, okay, one of

(29:21):
the big players goten dealt Hey, the minute they say
I want out, it will happen. If Lebron said to
the Lakers, I want out and you get me to Cleveland,
that's gonna happen. Now, he's got to know that the
Cleveland Cavaliers have a trade in place. Is what they do.
They want him, they can give up what they want.
He will say I want out, the trade will happen.
But all big stars, that's how it's gotta be. Teams

(29:42):
aren't gonna move on from big superstars just because they
sound like they're a little upset or they sound like
they don't know. If they want to say, they have
to be the bad guy, and teams are more than
happy waiting for that to happen. If they don't say anything, great,
we're gonna move on. James Harden did everything he could
to get traded, and then finally I had to say,
this is beyond repair. You know, in Houston and in Brooklyn,

(30:04):
this is beyond repair. Okay, great, Okay, you're going. You're
going Kevin Durant, same way Damian Lillard had to ask
out because the Blazers weren't gonna trade him. Like this
is how it has to go. If Yannis wants out,
he's got to ask for it. If he does, it'll happen.
If not, the Bucks will just whistle past the graveyards out.
Go alrighty we'll go into next season. You and Miles Turner.
It's a new NBA jam with you and MT. We're excited.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I just love the player empowerment era and all the
NBA Finals appearances that James Harden had, So congratulations, it
all worked out for all of us.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
So are you on the NBA trade machine, Steve? Can
you get Yiannis to the next.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
No, and and really don't want Yannis on the next system?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I thought touch your root for me. I was happy
when the Lakers got Luca.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
It's not a matter of you. I'm not inserting you
into it. He signed for three more years with the Bucks. Okay,
So I think it's good for for example, baseball, if
not all the stars are in La New York and
in the NBA. If not all the stars are in
LA and New York.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And Okay, what's what's better for the NBA A Pacers
Thunder final or a Knicks Lakers Final.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
What's better for the Ganna scoring fifty in Game seven
of the final?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but fifty for the Bucks in games said, No,
fifty for the Knicks in game seven of the finals.
Brunson can have fifty in game one and Yanna's gonna
have fifty in Game seven?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Aint can I happen?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Be the BA? If you're the bad guy, you'll get traded.
One guy who isn't the bad guy is, of course,
Steve de Seger. He's got what's trending for you right
now all night tonight in the wide world of sports,
including the big basses loaded walk to Pete Alonzo in
the third inning of the Mets Royals.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Sorry didn't get the sound on that one. Matt's lead
won nothing at the Royals in the top of the
fourth And yes, the Alonso basses full walk is the
lone score code. I Senga is back on the hill
off the injured list seven and three records for the Mats.
He has three scoreless innings despite six base runners. It's
three scoreless innings. We did have a Yankee win at home,
their fifth t'sight win eleven to nothing over the Cubs.

(32:01):
Cody Bellinger with three home runs. In fact, he's the
first player in Major League history with a three homer
game when it's his first game against a former team.
He does that to the Cubs, a team that entered
first place in the NL Central two games over Milwaukee
the Brewers, a team that have won four games in
a row. The Brewers in action tonight. In fact, many

(32:24):
games that have now gone final include the one in Milwaukee,
Brewers eight three over the Nationals. The Red Sox with
a two run homer bottom of the ninth, beat Tampa
Bay and closer Pete Fairbanks five to four. Red Sox
have won eight straight. Baltimore beat Miami five to two,
Colorado a three to two winner at Cincinnati with a
run in the eighth on a wild pitch. Seattle at

(32:44):
twelve three victory at Detroit cal Raleigh two more homers.
He has thirty eight. The Mariners scored seven times in
the ninth inning, including a grand slam from Raleigh. The
Twins lead the Pirates two to one in the bottom
of the eighth inning double header at the White It
sucks after a rain out Thursday, Cleveland one Tonight's opener
four to two. Cleveland leads four to three top of

(33:06):
the seventh of the nightcap. Rangers ahead seven to three
at Houston at the top of the eighth. Braves have
a six to five lead at Saint Louis in the
bottom of the seventh inning for Atlanta, Matt Olsen is
replacing the Braves Ronald Acunya in Tuesday's All Star home
run derby, which is in Atlanta, by the way, and
updating Dustin May. Dodgers starting pitcher has just allowed a

(33:29):
solo homer to Willia Damas one nothing San Francisco over
the Dodgers bottom of the second. The Dodgers have lost
six games in a row. Back to you, Thank you.

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(34:03):
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version posted right after we get off the air. Well, Steve,
it's Friday night, so I'm here to solve some problems.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Just on Fridays.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I'm here to solve problems.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, this is free for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, Well I can't. I can't just give it away.
I can't just give it away all during the week.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, of course not.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
You got kids, Like, yeah, listen, lawyers they do pro
bono work, but they still work on all the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's you know, they do one case, Okay, I'll do
this one pro bono case, right, which always turns out
to be the big cases.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
So the lawyer for Sonny Bono, was he literally doing
pro bono work?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
He was, well, probably unless he was suing Sonny Bono,
then he'd be doing anti bono work. But if you
were suing anti, if you were suing Sonny Bono on
behalf of somebody else and they weren't paying you, you
would be doing what.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Pro bono work, anti bono.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Anti bono pro bono work, Yes, that's you'd be doing
right there. Or you know, now, if you're doing it
for bono from you two, you'd be doing it that
way as well. That would be pro bono work though,
so it'll be pro bono.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
This is almost as confusing as the NBA salary camp.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Exactly exactly quite why is there an apron involved? Okay,
So tonight, big Headline WNBA Tonight, Caitlin Clark back for
the fever second game back they beat the Dream ninety
nine eighty two fever now ten and ten. Caitlyn Clark
tonight twelve points, nine assists, five out of seventeen from

(36:12):
the floor, one out of seven from three point range.
She's a trend, it is and here's the thing. And
this is where I'm like, boy, she's not been here's
the thing. She's not been good this year. That's the
whole thing. I shouldn't say she's not been great this year.
She has been good at times, and yes she was
injured in out of the lineup, but she has not

(36:33):
been great this year. And you know, lots of times
I get in depth with with advice and how to
help start you know me, my my pro bono anti bono,
pro bono anti bono work. But with Caitlyn Clark, it's
pretty simple, right, It's it's it's very simple thing. And
this is I would say here, I could solve all
your problems. Start making shots. That's what I would say,

(36:57):
Start making shots. She has been horrendous from the floor
this season.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Her field's playing ten eleven games and seven of them
have just been awful from three point range.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Angel Reese has a better field goal percentage than Natlan
Clark does not tell me that. I'm telling you to
look it up. Angel Reese has a better field goal
percentage than Kitlynkark. Caitlyn Clark has become this year a
volume scorer. Right. Here's her last few games tonight, five
out of seventeen last game, four for twelve before that,

(37:29):
three for thirteen before that, seven for twenty, three for fourteen.
She had a couple of big games in the next two,
but then going back six out of eighteen, four out
of eleven, she's not been good. She has been a
volume scorer for whatever reason. Her accuracy is gone. Teams
are allowing her to shoot and she is not making

(37:50):
them pay. And here are the fever sitting at ten
and ten. Now her numbers still look okay, because wait, mate,
you know when you're taking all these shots, okay, man,
you know, if you take enough shot, you're gonna get
twenty points, even if you're poor for twenty.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's the number that looks okay, the point totals. But actually,
in the last five games she's only actually made for
three pointers. And she keeps gunning from long range.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
She has taken twelve, eighteen, twenty eight thirty five threes
in the last four games and made four.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Of them out. Okay, she is just for whatever reason,
she is not hitting shots. And when whether it's she's
got to get used to a different a different style,
whether she is being asked too much of her on
the ball the entire game and she can't get her
shots off, you know, the Fever. We're trying a different
strategy of Hey, let's take some of the pressure off

(38:39):
of her. And then the Knicks did this with Jalen
Brunson during the season. Hey, we understand we need you
to play forty eight minutes a night, Jalen. So we'll
take a few possessions here and there where you're not
bringing the ball up the court. We can't take you
out of the game, but you don't have to bring
the ball up the court. So, hey, this is what
the Fever tried to do the last couple of games.
We're gonna maybe do a little something different. Ery McDonald
started to point at point guard along with Caitlyn. They

(39:00):
went back to the old lineup tonight. But but Caitlin
Clark is just not the same player. And you can
blame Andrews, you can, but she is just not hitting shots.
And it's a variety right watching the game, it's a
variety of just miss threes. It's open threes, it's heat
check threes, it's stuff close to the basket. She is
just not the same player, and and it's hard to

(39:21):
tell why at this point because it's been such stops
and starts throughout her the end.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
And it's not just that though, it's she had before
this latest injury, back to back eight turnover games when
they ask her to be everything at the guard spot,
the ball handler, and the outside shooter, create everything and
be a shooter.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, it is. She is not the same player this year.
And it's kind of weird so far. You know, yeah,
you know how hard she works, but it's it's definitely
been a Hey she's in the limelight a lot, and
she's at country music concerts, and she's at a zoo,
and she's here, she's this and now here. Hey, here's
a year where she's struggling, struggling to stay healthy, struggling
to to really dent the score the way she can.

(40:01):
I mean, really, I can't argue with anybody that says, hey,
Caitlin Clark's not been great. No, she hasn't. I mean,
she's been good. She's still she's still leading the league
and assists right, still moving the offense still. You know,
her vision of the court is fantastic. But as far
as what you know, she's supposed to be leading the
WNBA in scoring, She's supposed to be that Steph Curry

(40:21):
of the W and she just isn't. And she's struggling incredible.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
And missed a lot of time as three weeks with
one injury, missed the last five games with most recent
and the All Star Games a week from tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, she didn't get hurt one game in college and
now she's already had two injuries this year in the W.
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