July 23, 2025 • 34 mins
Mike Harmon and Jared Smith with all the latest on the struggling Dodgers. And Micah Parsons fires back at Jerry Jones!
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Jared Smith in his stead today. You hear him weekly
(01:12):
on Countdown on Saturday mornings alongside Rich Hornberger and Brian
no In with Us tonight at Jared Smith Bets is
where you find him in the twitter verse.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Anything else you need to promote.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, that was great. I have a discord that's free.
There you get all my I do, all my bets
in there and everything. I have a blasting every not
off your discord guy or not. But it's a fun
way to get It's an organized way to put all
my bets in one place.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It is a place that I have traversed on occasion.
But you know, it's becomes the where do you dedicate
your time? Yass the vast raise of options?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Right, you know, it's fun, I think, and you do
a great job. And I noticed some you know, people
consistent people tweeting us during the show. It's about community.
I think that's what's media is all about today. And
I thought the discord was a it was a fun
way for me to be serious about my betting, but
also build a community.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I have over a thousand people in it. It's actually
I have a blast.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Get that transparency to it all. Yes, and oh there you.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Go these days. You know, you get a lot of
grifters in our space.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, you don't say.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It could be a little bit greasy sometimes.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well it's funny, right because the side fun for me,
the trading card memorabilia hobby. There's some big, terrible headlines
this week with some fraud stuff to the tune of
billion or a couple of billion when it's all when
you take the industry as a whole, but certainly several
million in this latest incident.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And then the person took their own life, that was
at the heart of it. So you've got a lot
of stuff there. Not to take it to a negative,
but uh, just the curiosity sometimes of the history of
the card business, going back to the home shopping channels
of it. Get this set up right here, you want
to go get tell her you got this deal on
(03:02):
here thirty nine ninety nine. This will hey, you say, look,
I don't let a good deal go by.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Look what I picked up here.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You got this Fleer set, you got it and the
full set, And that shows up in my timelines and
we have a good comedy bit running back and forth
my brothers and I with some of those legends in
that space. But that's the term grifter. Yeah, certainly one
that applies, no question about it, and certainly in the
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betting space. Something We've talked with our guy Todd Furman
quite a bit. The best love Todd that he just
sunned out takeing a couple of weeks off. Yeah, good
Vegas guy at today this in Europe, join his life. Yeah, well,
you know, get in the calm before the storm that
is collage and prof no question about it. You know,
he recently got married about a year a year ago, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Couple of years ago. Another dog's big into the dog thing,
just like me.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
We both have rescues.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
So yeah, I've got mine. He he's twelve years old
and no smarter than the day I got him. But
you know, he's fine and I love him, so it's
all good.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
My guy's confused because usually I work mornings. He's like,
what are you doing dad? We should be asleep by now.
Well he's sitting on the couch right here looking at me.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And then you looked down and said, well, nobody's stopping you.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, he's been sleeping this whole time. He just wakes up.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
He's like, bro, we going to bed anytime soon. He's
gonna be yapping away at the computer all night.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh it's Vegas.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It's still early, so you know it's into the ten
o'clock hour here West Coast Minnesota. Nine to five leaders
now on the Dodgers, into the top of the ninth.
We'll talk more about that one as we go forward.
More from the Cowboys camp a little bit later on.
But Diana Rossini had a tweet that you put out
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earlier after talking to Trey Hendrickson, who decided he was
going to Jacksonville, Florida, he'd be at his home in
Cincinnati and training, and then he and.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
His wife decided to say, ah, we're done with this.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They received two offers in a twenty four hour span
from the Bengals, none condaring, containing the guarantees past the
first year, that he was looking for something that seems
to be a constant theme there in Cincinnati in terms
of guarantees and language and such, whatever the particulars may be.
Mike Brown with some controversial to some comments yesterday as
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related to Shamar Stewart, you know, the guy that could
be the replacement for Hendrickson. Even though Brown and Tobin
and all those saying all the right things related to
trying to make sure everybody gets into camp and wanting
them there. But hendricks Cassidi he didn't want the practice
whistles want to hear him while being a distraction to
his teammate being around. So they just decided to pack
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up and leave, hoping continuing to train and hoping that
a deal can be worked out.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I was more than willing to take less in some
ways in order to make this work. So now it
becomes the all right, how quickly can they get this remedied?
Because as we know, for the Bengals, some great finishes.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Great heroics from Joe Burrow. They got the.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Wide receivers locked up, don't have their first round pick,
Stuart signed yet, Hendrickson out. But we've seen the last
couple of years. They don't come to play in September,
and you're playing behind the eight ball in a division
that is crowded. We can laugh and point and mock
whatever we think of the Cleveland quarterback situation. They still
have a roster that's good enough to get them into
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a couple of wins. Pittsburgh, whatever you think of Aaron Rodgers,
you'll look great and resplendent in those nineteen thirty three
uniforms when he plays the Packers in Week eight. Well,
Mike Tomlin and company have shown that they're going to
be a five hundred team or slightly above even with
me throwing the football, all right, the NFL equivalent of me.
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And then we talk about the Baltimore Ravens and the
constance of their roster building and excellence of execution. So
you're chasing, So you give away games in September. Guess
what you're continuing to chase. No matter what heroics you
have down the stretch, those giveaways count just the same.
So now you're looking at your defense, which was listless
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a year ago. You fired your your coordinator, made him
the fall guy on a shoddily built unit, and now
your top player is still nowhere to be seen and
perhaps no end in sight.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, it's bad situation. And I'll get to Henderson in
a minute.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
But to your point about the Bengals slow starts one
and eleven under Zach Taylor, first two games of the
year over a six years as head coach.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean that's just that's bad. Now.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
The flip side of that, Mike is they're twenty three
and eight in December.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, they yes, finished strong. That's great.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Last year.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
How about this, and I love you know I gave
you that Charger stat earlier about they would have the
second best record in the league if the games ended
after three quarters. The Bengals have a similar stat, which
I think sums up their twenty twenty four season very well.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No team spent more time time with their opponent than
the Bengals last year.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Like they played every game was on the razors edge,
and I think that really sums up what they are,
which is a lot of I guess, collection of high
end talent with not a lot of meat in the middle.
Like we know Burrow's great, we know Chase is great,
we know Higgins is great. The offense is great, really
Burrow and the receivers are great. The offensive line is
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really bad. Like when I was analyzing the offensive line,
their bottom five in almost every category, and it's been
consistent over the last five years. No other offensive line
came even close to being that bad. Over a four
year stretch. The only three teams that were even in
the same vicinity were the Colts, Giants, and Panthers. And
how good have those teams been win loss wise over
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the last four years? Woof, So I think Cincinnati has
a problem where they obviously paid their top guys, but
it does and as important as the quarterback receiver.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Is in the NFL, it's vital.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
There is an issue with the rest of the roster
that seems to be a little bit disconnected.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Now, let's get to Hendrickson.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
When he is off the field, the defense drops off significantly.
They are dead last in almost every single passing defense
category when he's off the field, thirty second in pressure rate,
thirty second in completion rate allowed, thirty second in success
rate allowed, thirty second in passer rating allowed. And I
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know everyone out there listening is a very smart listener.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There's only thirty two teams in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Now, when Hendrickson plays, he's top twelve in all those categories.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The Bengals defense goes.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Passing defense goes from a bottom unit to a top
fifteen unit with a snap of Drey Henderson's fingers. That's
how vital he is to the defense. And the final point,
which this stat is mind blowing, Mike. Three players in
NFL history have had seventeen and a half sacks in
back to back years, Reggie White, JJ Watt and Trey
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Henderson that's the list. So for you to even try
to put him off of the reservation and make him
literally leave the state, like flee the state of Ohio.
I think there needs to be a serious renovation with
how the Bengals front office does business because now you
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get into the Shamar Stewart stuff and it makes it
look even worse that they're hung up on some guaranteed
language just in case he goes to jail. They don't
want to pay him, Like I'd be insulted if I
was Shamar Stewart, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Would be insulted if I was Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And those two guys, more so Hendrickson than Stuart, absolutely
vital to the success of the defense in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, the curiosity right when you say it as brown did,
I mean it's callous and cold. But from a business ownership,
you standpoint of guarantees and if you're not available for me,
and I think we can all go to the logic
of it, right Jerry Jones went to the you can
get hit by a bus tacked. It was almost like,
(11:05):
all right, you're gonna you're gonna go out out there,
You're gonna take that route. I'm gonna take this one. Okay,
we'll meet in the middle and see how this goes. Uh,
But all all to the same end of you've got
high value players that you're at an impass with and
now we're arguing over you know, those those terms and
certainly the Stewart stuff you know, when we're talking about
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making a change, And it wasn't language that was in
the stuff they did with other members of the squad, uh,
including their wide receivers that they just resigned. Well, doesn't
mean that you can't have a change of philosophy.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You don't have to.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Like it might be bad business practice in terms of,
you know, having a good faith kind of moment with
your first round draft pick, where normally it's fairly simple. Right,
first round draft picks were all signed a long time ago.
Look at the guys around him, they were all early
May where they signed their deals.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And then you have this now all the second round
picks finally getting their stuff situated here and it's just
a done deals. It was another weird one too, But
again going back to contract language and guarantees and and
some of the verbiage therein right where where that kind
of dragged out, But for the Bengals never exactly have
been on the you know better organization lists. Right, Okay,
(12:25):
here's here's how to run, here's how to run an
organization topped the bout. No, they've they've been duct tape
and bandages and you know, bring your own dollar for
the coke machine kind of things all the way through.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
We've certainly t J.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Huschmanzada, who follows you on Saturday mornings. He's told plenty
of tales during his Oh I bet he's.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Got tons of stories.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
He was there for the really rough years, right with
like Carl Pickens and those guys.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Right, so you go and he and TJ or He
and Ocho Cinco together, Carson and all those guys ever
playing together, and you had some great talent, but also
a lot of things behind to where Carson Palmer just
said I'll retire.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They let Marvin Lewis hang around way too long.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well that that's one of those old theories. But it's
it's on some level the Mike Tomlin thing. It's still winning.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Tomlin had way more success though, right than Marvin.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think, yeah, I mean, well, you got your title, right,
you got your title and such but Marvin Lewis took
them from nothing to respectability and consistency. But A to
B didn't get from B to C. The biggest issue
I a long time ago. Yeah, the biggest issue I
have with.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
The Stewart thing real quick is every other you know,
first round pick in the past didn't have to deal
with this sure, So I'm just curious, like, why now
Mike Brown puts his foot down about this guaranteed language
because every other first round pick is in the same boat,
Like the contracts are so cookie cutter now in the
first round. I just don't understand why you're putting a
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foot down about this.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
That is the multi billion dollar question, which I guess
if he sits in front of the microphone long enough,
he hasn't stopped him from saying other stuff, so he
might jump in there as well. We'll see. But yeah,
Trey Hendrickson hanging out down in Florida. He was enjoying
the nice road ahead of him earlier today.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It was like he was escaping Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I'm out. I'm not doing this Ohio thing. At Jared
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as Micah Parsons got in front of a microphone one
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we'll do that as we continue Jase The Smith Show
(14:48):
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
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Speaker 4 (16:17):
What would chronicle be chronicled as perhaps a meaningless home run,
but it all counts just the same. In the wash
for show, Hey Otani to run shot ten to seven.
Now in the nine to two outs, will Smith at
the plate? Well, let's make it a final Smith goes
down trying to check his swing, goes through the zone.
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It's a final ten to seven. How many people are
hate betting the Dodgers right now?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, Our producer asked us that during the break.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I think there's a strong level of pessimism about where
they're priced. Not necessarily hate betting, but there's such a
big favorite every night, Mike, it's almost impossible to bet
on them unless you've got like some really good info
that you know, maybe one of their back end starters
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outperforms their their back of their baseball card and you're
going to get a good showing from them. But the
way that this bullpen is performing for you to be
betting real money on them to win a game at
the level that they're priced at most nights, which is
a big favorite, I just think there's so many better
ways to bet the Dodgers or against them, like I
(17:29):
would be betting on shoe Hey Otani home run props,
which if you just catch that one in the ninth inning,
you're feeling like you stole money. Yeah, I mean again,
and you know he's probably gonna win the MVP, and
the Dodgers are probably going to be you know, they're
probably going to win the division. They're probably gonna, you know,
make another run at least to the NLCS.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But I just don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
In a seven game series, when it's night in, night out,
and then the teams really get to know each other, right,
those series can get pretty intimate, especially when it's Dodgers Padres.
We've seen those series get hot and heavy. I don't
know if they have the backbone late to really get
across the finish line. I'm very interested to see what
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kind of series prices we get once we get to
the postseason. I mean, you throw those Milwaukee starters that
we saw tonight in the last couple nights again, Woodruff,
Peralta and now this kid Mizerowski. I think those three
guys are better than anyone the Dodgers are putting out there, right.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Say, whenever you get into a short series, yeah, give
me the starters all day, every day, especially guys that
you know have consistently been able to work deeper into
a game. Right. As we talked about a little bit
earlier in the show for those that missed it to
recap it, you know, the bad Penny kind of philosophy
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of the more times you go to the pen odds
are one guy is not feeling it, upset stomach, big
moment on bad control, whatever the case may be, fighting
with the catcher oversigned, and you have no idea all
of it comes to play showing out with Tony currently
implied odds or ninety four percent that he wins the
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MVP at a Pete crow Armstrong. Meanwhile, on the other side,
you've got Aaron Judge minus six ninety nine ahead of
Cal Rawley, who's now a plus four point fifty, and
then you get to one hundred to one plus for
school Bol Ramirez. By the way, Ramirez an interesting run
back to twenty twenty again for another time in his career.
(19:29):
He's a guy that I just out of aged. As
as I do everybody else, I age myself. Sometimes there's
players that you know, get caught in this little vacuum
where I forget, oh wow, that guy's really been around
a minute. So he's done some tremendous stuff, no question
about it. He's only three away from Barry and Bobby Bonds,
who did that ten times each in their careers.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, there's I mean, listen, I.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Think there's a lot of great players in baseball that
really go onto the radar because it's a it's such
a team sport, you know, and that's why you get
the Mike Trouts that. I mean, he might have one
of the best careers that no one really remembers in
thirty years, you know, because it's just his team never
really did anything.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Well remember what he was, right, I mean, Ernie Banks
will always be again. Yeah, I never want a damn thing. Example,
my guy Frank Thomas had the first first ten years
he was up there and being compared to all the greats,
and then he became a wandering minstrel at the end
where you have pictures of him in a blue Jay's
uniform and now he still don't commercials.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Well you know what, and got to make no money.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
She'll like it too, Yeah, she'll She'll love it is
him and Doug Footie.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Right, that's right here you go after no question about it.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Masculinity. Jared Smith Betts where you find him on Twitter?
Find me over at Swoonedo. We talked a little bit
about the Bengals situation, and yesterday we had Jerry Jones
and he was getting his thoughts out about Micah Parsons,
Dak Prescott, you name it. If you'd let the mic on,
he might have had some other side swipes along the way. Well,
(21:02):
Micah Parkson's had the opportunity to respond. Earlier in the show,
we had the the clip kind of talking about hey,
looking around the league, everybody else gets taken care of.
But then he was asked, boy blank, you know about
relationship and talking to Jerry Jones for each other, but stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Gets seven the media. Have you had a conversation with
him after press No, But I'm gonna say I'm gonna
talk to him.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
You know, I just thought as a whole life, you know, everyone's.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Situation is differently, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (21:30):
At the end of the day, Like I'm here for
my teammates, you know, I'm not here to please another
grown man.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
I'm here for them. You know.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
I want to be here with Trey watching rehab, watching
him on the field, watching group. I want to be
here bat only tim Still, like, if I'm here for
these guys, I'm not here for him, you know. So
I think, you know, I think at the end of
the day, he's on the field with us. You know,
we're on the field playing the games and things like that.
So I'm gonna just control my teammates, keep boosting it,
and you know, we're just gonna keep playing together.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, so certainly talking about getting with his teammates also
grown men. So that quote well intentioned, kind of a
little handhanded, but you know the points well taken. I
want to be on the field with my guys. I
want to be able to play. Talking about Travon Diggs,
who was standing there with him as they met the media,
you hear the throng of fans behind them.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah, here's a a concert the Backstitt Boys concer going
on behind it.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'll tell you Whychtar.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Turns out man, that Cowboys camp is a different animal.
I had was blessed when I was writing, more so
than than radio. When I was doing stuff for Fox
Sports dot Com and I lived down the East Coast,
I would go up and down the corridor going to
training camps and you'd get some access, some better than others.
Pittsburgh was always very accommodating, but you'd have fifteen thousand
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people for a nine am, wow, hundred degree workout like
the Beatles on a Wednesday morning. Like I mean, that's
the kind of crowd that you get Green Bay. The
you know, tradition of riding the.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Bicycles and whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
But they would have ridiculous crowds filling up the sidelines
and the outer fences and everything, just trying to get
a glimpse of things. In Oxnart, it's the same thing, right,
Go past the strawberry patches, go past a lot of farms,
and you'll end up at what has become a megaplex
(23:21):
for the cowboys and get in there and sell, sell,
sell here in southern California. So the sounds that you
heard behind it, yeah, you got camps, You've got tons
of kids, families that show out. Jerry's always shaking hands,
kissing babies and talking to folks, and certainly the players
do a good job of doing that and like meeting
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that responsibility to the fans. But you can hear it
Micah Parson's voice. He's kind of tired of it and
just wants it done. Even if he knows the inevitability
that Jerry will signed the check, it's still the can
we just get this done? Because to the Jerry Jones
point of hey, any day something bad can happen. Longer
this plays out like you're tempting fate to a degree,
(24:05):
if you believe in such things.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, and I think, and you've covered him obviously, You've
been to the training camp, so you've.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Obviously covered these situations a lot more than me.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I look at it very much from the analytical gambling perspective.
Micah Parsons is one of the top five defensive players
in the sport, and to even risk upsetting him and
pushing him further away from my franchise is not a
risk I'd be willing to take, even if that is
the modus operande for what Jerry's done in the past.
(24:37):
So we talk about this with quarterbacks, right, they wear
the red jersey. In practice, they are the exception to
the rule. They get treated differently. There are certain players,
not quarterbacks, that also get treated differently. I think Mike
is one of those players.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, I think when you get down to it, right,
it's also the scenario whereby if a season starts to
turn south. And I'm not gonna accuse anybody of sandbagging it,
but certainly we've got plenty of history of that two
week injury. And it goes back to what we were
talking about with Haliburton before. What's real, what's imagined, what
can you play through what can you not what you're
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paying tolerance versus your tolerance of another situation beyond you
know what's going on with you physically, right, So if
the team gets out of the gate slowly and you're
a bit banged up, how quickly are you apt to
get back on the field, as opposed to saying, well,
they kind of screwed with my money, they screwed with
my team and my approach or whatever to where And
(25:37):
I'm not saying this for Mike. I'm taking this to
a larger, larger macro scale, to our macro micro conversations
that we have here on the show. And you so
a depthitely jumped into that phrame is just that, you know,
it's just the human condition, right, a feeling loved, respected, wanted, whatever.
And as much as you're bold into those guys in
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the locker room, and they also see the you know,
the way the world works and have their own contracts
that they need to negotiate, so it's something that could
potentially spiral into a much bigger issue than it needs
to be.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Absolutely, I think Dallas is in better shape than people think.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Seven and a half wins is there over under I'd
go over.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And I think, honestly a lot of it too.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is the price right.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
They've been priced like Filet mignon in the last few years.
Now they're being priced like a Wendy's cheezburger, you know,
And I think that matters a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I also don't and Philly. I have this weird spidy
sense about Philly.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
And maybe this is like a conspiracy theory, but if
things were so buttoned up in Philly, the Eagles, I think,
outside of Chip Kelly going to the Raiders, the Eagles
made one of the most interesting hires of the entire offseason.
Right Kellen Moore's gone, He's in New Orleans. They promote Kevin.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Patula to OC and what do they do to add
to their offensive room.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
They don't bring in like a veteran NFL coach from
another team, maybe somewhere in the division where they know
Jalen Hurts, they know the Eagles, they know the NFC East.
They hire Scott Laffler, and you're like, who the heck
is Scott Laffler, the head coach of Bowling Green, to
be the new quarterback coach of the Eagles. Now, Scott's
got a really interesting history because he coached Tom Brady,
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coached Tim Tebow. He had a very unique background at
Michigan at Florida way back in the day.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But he's been.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Coaching in the group of five in college football for
the last five years, turning around the Bowling Green program.
I thought that was a really interesting hire. It told
me two things. One they might not be fully sold
on Kevin Patulo as the OC. Two they really think
Jalen Hurts needs a lot of work. Because when you
bring in a college coach to kind of be the
quarterback guru, you're preaching fundamentals. You're preaching things that maybe
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Jalen you think he's up to speed on, but maybe
not fully there. I thought that was a really unique hire,
and I think it kind of shows a little bit
of weakness in the Eagles offensive room, Like is Kevin
Patulo going to be the main voice or a Scott
Loaffler who has more experience, older coach Tom Brady, coach
Tim Tebow gonna have final say when Jalen Hurts his
you know, indiscretions maybe get brought to the table. So
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I thought that was a really unique hireer Obviously, Washington
had a great year. Maybe they'd take a step back,
and the Giants are a dumpster fire. So I do
think the NFC East with Dallas like you might have
an opportunity with a favorable price and maybe some weakness
elsewhere in the division where this could actually be the
year where no one expects them to win the division,
but maybe they actually compete.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Current ods bet MGM Eagles the favorite at minus one fifty,
Commanders plus two twenty five, Cowboys at plus six hundred,
the Giants at plus.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Twenty eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Now way bet the Giants.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well again, it goes back to that. How about you
just burn that dollar bill and see what kind of
cool Give it.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
To me, and I'll invest it in like a certificate
of deposits somewhere, and I'll give it to you in twenty.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Years and it'll be a few more nicely done the investment.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Let me in this for you at Jared Smith Betts
if that's where you want to invest your time and resource,
and check out his discord and everything he's got going
you hear him on Countdown Saturday Mornings with Rich and Brian.
No question about it as we flow through. Follow me
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Take us with you on the iHeartRadio app wherever you traverse.
(29:20):
Now it's notud to take a one last turn to
the news desk for the evening that Dodgers game is
a final and with it a soul and Steve Dessay.
Speaker 10 (29:30):
Sho Heyotani has homered in four straight games for the
first time in his major league career. This was his
thirty sixth homer this season, but the Dodgers allowed four
unearned runs and lost ten to seven to Minnesota. Dodger
reliever Tanner Scott last night suffered elbow inflammation went on
the injured list. Alexis Diaz was called up and not good. Tonight,
Dodger reliever Ben Casparrius left with injury. It is called
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a calf cramp. The Dodgers, until last night's win, had
lost ten of twelve. They're back in the L column night,
and the lead in the NL West over the Padres
is two and a half games.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It was a nine game lead on July the third.
Speaker 10 (30:08):
The three and a half, I should say the Padres
fell short in their ninth inning attempt at a comeback
down four to one. In the ninth loss for to
three at Miami, but the Giants were victorious. They'd lost
six straight but won nine nothing at Atlanta, playing Rafael
Devers at first base. By the way Texas in Tampa
Bay with Victory's, Colorado and Houston as well, Seattle ended
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Milwaukee's eleven game winning streak one nothing. Cole Rawley is
thirty ninth homer Logan Gilbert the winning pitcher with ten
strikeouts in six and a third. In fact, the Brewers
offense was two for thirty at the plate tonight with
thirteen strikeouts. Milwaukee tied for first again in the NL
Central with the Cubs. Cubs shut out Kansas City sixth
to nothing. Matthew Boyd eleven and three got the win.
(30:52):
The cub stole seven bases in the game. Rich Hill
and his Royals debut, took the loss, but allowed just
one earned run in five innings of work. The Yankees
are three games back in the AL Ease after winning
at Toronto, the first place team five to four on
a solo homer in the top of the ninth by
Ben rice Off. Closer Jeff Hoffman. Max Scherzer had started
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in Toronto. He allowed a three run homer in the
first wound up going five innings, no decision. Toronto, by
the way, had won eleventh straight at home Jays eleven
left on bit Should I just start over?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
No, that's it, that's in rewind.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
In the NLS, the Phillies are still a half game
over the Mets. Phillies beat Boston four to one, Kyle
Schwarber his thirty third homer. Christopher Sanchez, the winning pitcher,
is nine and two. He tossed a complete game with
twelve strikeouts no walks, by the way. This weekend Phillies
at Yankees and Toronto at Detroit, Mets beat the Angels
three to two. Detroit is slumping badly. They've lost eight
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of nine. Lost at Pittsburgh tonight eight to five wins
for Washington and Cleveland. At the Women's Soccer Euro SIMMIS,
England somehow won an overtime against Italy two to one.
Final as this weekend on Fox. The other semi is
on Fox TV tomorrow three pm Eastern defending World Cup
champion Spain against Germany. Five WNBA games tonight wins for
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Las Vegas and Dallas, La as well. Minnesota twenty one
to four beat up Chicago ninety one sixty eight. New
York Now sixteen and six defeated Indiana ninety eight eighty four.
Kaitlin Clark out again with the groin entry. She's missed
half the games of her team this year. Ratings for
last Saturday's All Star Game were down thirty five percent
from last year. The NBA Summer League MVP is Utah's
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Kyle Philipowski from Duke. Patriots wide receiver Stefan Diggs was
cleared to practice after last year's torn ACL. Veteran safety
Jamal Adams signed with the Raiders, who are now coached
by Pete Carroll. Carolina linebacker Josie Jewell was released he
still has concussion symptoms. Saints safety Tron Matthew retired after
twelve seasons. New Orleans signed safety Julian Blackman. The Dolphins
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cut backup quarterback Brett Rippon. Defensive end Trey Hendrickson of
the Bengals did not report to camp. He wants an extension.
Commander's wide receiver Terry McLaurin did not report to training camp,
seeking a new contract.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Back to you see, We're doing a great week without
a lot of Mets talk, but I'm gonna have two
things for you yesterday. Go back and watch some of
the video of Stratton and Jackson WWE Knight.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That was kind of fun as they did mock ups
of all the players.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Also a thirty for thirty being made for Francisco Lindor.
He's over his last thirty at the plate?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Say what did he?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
What does he do to desk thirty straight at Bats
of Futility?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So he's taking as many nights off as Jason state.
That sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Wow, that a thing. Does Jason take a lot of
time off? Well?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
No, I mean we're usually here. But when he does,
he disappears.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He seems like a like a like a warrior when
an iron man of radio. That's the vibe.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You don't know Jason Smith for he's a Jets fan, so.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He's gotta have Wow he's bruises. Yeah, right, as a
fellow Jets fan, we've been through the wars.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
He's a Jets Nixon Mets fan.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's all you two thirds of that Jets Nicks. I
did get the Yankees, so I got the longer end
of that stick.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
See there you go. You have chosen wise.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I chosen wise.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
He ignored his dad and picked the Mets. Thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
All Right, coming up next, we finish it off with
some big thoughts for the larger betting world as you
move forward and start prognosticating coming out of all these
media days, and one last tribute to a legend and
his sports connections. As we finish up, He's Jared Smith
and for Jason Smith, I'm Mike Harmon.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
Welcome in fineal hour of the program here on a
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Jared Smith in his stead today. You hear him weekly
(01:12):
on Countdown on Saturday mornings alongside Rich Hornberger and Brian
no In with Us tonight at Jared Smith Bets is
where you find him in the twitter verse.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Anything else you need to promote.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, that was great. I have a discord that's free.
There you get all my I do, all my bets
in there and everything. I have a blasting every not
off your discord guy or not. But it's a fun
way to get It's an organized way to put all
my bets in one place.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It is a place that I have traversed on occasion.
But you know, it's becomes the where do you dedicate
your time? Yass the vast raise of options?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Right, you know, it's fun, I think, and you do
a great job. And I noticed some you know, people
consistent people tweeting us during the show. It's about community.
I think that's what's media is all about today. And
I thought the discord was a it was a fun
way for me to be serious about my betting, but
also build a community.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I have over a thousand people in it. It's actually
I have a blast.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Get that transparency to it all. Yes, and oh there you.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Go these days. You know, you get a lot of
grifters in our space.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, you don't say.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It could be a little bit greasy sometimes.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well it's funny, right because the side fun for me,
the trading card memorabilia hobby. There's some big, terrible headlines
this week with some fraud stuff to the tune of
billion or a couple of billion when it's all when
you take the industry as a whole, but certainly several
million in this latest incident.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And then the person took their own life, that was
at the heart of it. So you've got a lot
of stuff there. Not to take it to a negative,
but uh, just the curiosity sometimes of the history of
the card business, going back to the home shopping channels
of it. Get this set up right here, you want
to go get tell her you got this deal on
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here thirty nine ninety nine. This will hey, you say, look,
I don't let a good deal go by.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Look what I picked up here.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You got this Fleer set, you got it and the
full set, And that shows up in my timelines and
we have a good comedy bit running back and forth
my brothers and I with some of those legends in
that space. But that's the term grifter. Yeah, certainly one
that applies, no question about it, and certainly in the
(03:30):
betting space. Something We've talked with our guy Todd Furman
quite a bit. The best love Todd that he just
sunned out takeing a couple of weeks off. Yeah, good
Vegas guy at today this in Europe, join his life. Yeah, well,
you know, get in the calm before the storm that
is collage and prof no question about it. You know,
he recently got married about a year a year ago, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Couple of years ago. Another dog's big into the dog thing,
just like me.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
We both have rescues.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
So yeah, I've got mine. He he's twelve years old
and no smarter than the day I got him. But
you know, he's fine and I love him, so it's
all good.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
My guy's confused because usually I work mornings. He's like,
what are you doing dad? We should be asleep by now.
Well he's sitting on the couch right here looking at me.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And then you looked down and said, well, nobody's stopping you.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, he's been sleeping this whole time. He just wakes up.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
He's like, bro, we going to bed anytime soon. He's
gonna be yapping away at the computer all night.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh it's Vegas.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It's still early, so you know it's into the ten
o'clock hour here West Coast Minnesota. Nine to five leaders
now on the Dodgers, into the top of the ninth.
We'll talk more about that one as we go forward.
More from the Cowboys camp a little bit later on.
But Diana Rossini had a tweet that you put out
(04:45):
earlier after talking to Trey Hendrickson, who decided he was
going to Jacksonville, Florida, he'd be at his home in
Cincinnati and training, and then he and.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
His wife decided to say, ah, we're done with this.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They received two offers in a twenty four hour span
from the Bengals, none condaring, containing the guarantees past the
first year, that he was looking for something that seems
to be a constant theme there in Cincinnati in terms
of guarantees and language and such, whatever the particulars may be.
Mike Brown with some controversial to some comments yesterday as
(05:19):
related to Shamar Stewart, you know, the guy that could
be the replacement for Hendrickson. Even though Brown and Tobin
and all those saying all the right things related to
trying to make sure everybody gets into camp and wanting
them there. But hendricks Cassidi he didn't want the practice
whistles want to hear him while being a distraction to
his teammate being around. So they just decided to pack
(05:40):
up and leave, hoping continuing to train and hoping that
a deal can be worked out.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I was more than willing to take less in some
ways in order to make this work. So now it
becomes the all right, how quickly can they get this remedied?
Because as we know, for the Bengals, some great finishes.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Great heroics from Joe Burrow. They got the.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Wide receivers locked up, don't have their first round pick,
Stuart signed yet, Hendrickson out. But we've seen the last
couple of years. They don't come to play in September,
and you're playing behind the eight ball in a division
that is crowded. We can laugh and point and mock
whatever we think of the Cleveland quarterback situation. They still
have a roster that's good enough to get them into
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a couple of wins. Pittsburgh, whatever you think of Aaron Rodgers,
you'll look great and resplendent in those nineteen thirty three
uniforms when he plays the Packers in Week eight. Well,
Mike Tomlin and company have shown that they're going to
be a five hundred team or slightly above even with
me throwing the football, all right, the NFL equivalent of me.
(06:45):
And then we talk about the Baltimore Ravens and the
constance of their roster building and excellence of execution. So
you're chasing, So you give away games in September. Guess
what you're continuing to chase. No matter what heroics you
have down the stretch, those giveaways count just the same.
So now you're looking at your defense, which was listless
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a year ago. You fired your your coordinator, made him
the fall guy on a shoddily built unit, and now
your top player is still nowhere to be seen and
perhaps no end in sight.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, it's bad situation. And I'll get to Henderson in
a minute.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
But to your point about the Bengals slow starts one
and eleven under Zach Taylor, first two games of the
year over a six years as head coach.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean that's just that's bad. Now.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
The flip side of that, Mike is they're twenty three
and eight in December.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, they yes, finished strong. That's great.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Last year.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
How about this, and I love you know I gave
you that Charger stat earlier about they would have the
second best record in the league if the games ended
after three quarters. The Bengals have a similar stat, which
I think sums up their twenty twenty four season very well.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No team spent more time time with their opponent than
the Bengals last year.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Like they played every game was on the razors edge,
and I think that really sums up what they are,
which is a lot of I guess, collection of high
end talent with not a lot of meat in the middle.
Like we know Burrow's great, we know Chase is great,
we know Higgins is great. The offense is great, really
Burrow and the receivers are great. The offensive line is
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really bad. Like when I was analyzing the offensive line,
their bottom five in almost every category, and it's been
consistent over the last five years. No other offensive line
came even close to being that bad. Over a four
year stretch. The only three teams that were even in
the same vicinity were the Colts, Giants, and Panthers. And
how good have those teams been win loss wise over
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the last four years? Woof, So I think Cincinnati has
a problem where they obviously paid their top guys, but
it does and as important as the quarterback receiver.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Is in the NFL, it's vital.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
There is an issue with the rest of the roster
that seems to be a little bit disconnected.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Now, let's get to Hendrickson.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
When he is off the field, the defense drops off significantly.
They are dead last in almost every single passing defense
category when he's off the field, thirty second in pressure rate,
thirty second in completion rate allowed, thirty second in success
rate allowed, thirty second in passer rating allowed. And I
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know everyone out there listening is a very smart listener.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There's only thirty two teams in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Now, when Hendrickson plays, he's top twelve in all those categories.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The Bengals defense goes.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Passing defense goes from a bottom unit to a top
fifteen unit with a snap of Drey Henderson's fingers. That's
how vital he is to the defense. And the final point,
which this stat is mind blowing, Mike. Three players in
NFL history have had seventeen and a half sacks in
back to back years, Reggie White, JJ Watt and Trey
(10:03):
Henderson that's the list. So for you to even try
to put him off of the reservation and make him
literally leave the state, like flee the state of Ohio.
I think there needs to be a serious renovation with
how the Bengals front office does business because now you
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get into the Shamar Stewart stuff and it makes it
look even worse that they're hung up on some guaranteed
language just in case he goes to jail. They don't
want to pay him, Like I'd be insulted if I
was Shamar Stewart, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Would be insulted if I was Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And those two guys, more so Hendrickson than Stuart, absolutely
vital to the success of the defense in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, the curiosity right when you say it as brown did,
I mean it's callous and cold. But from a business ownership,
you standpoint of guarantees and if you're not available for me,
and I think we can all go to the logic
of it, right Jerry Jones went to the you can
get hit by a bus tacked. It was almost like,
(11:05):
all right, you're gonna you're gonna go out out there,
You're gonna take that route. I'm gonna take this one. Okay,
we'll meet in the middle and see how this goes. Uh,
But all all to the same end of you've got
high value players that you're at an impass with and
now we're arguing over you know, those those terms and
certainly the Stewart stuff you know, when we're talking about
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making a change, And it wasn't language that was in
the stuff they did with other members of the squad, uh,
including their wide receivers that they just resigned. Well, doesn't
mean that you can't have a change of philosophy.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You don't have to.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Like it might be bad business practice in terms of,
you know, having a good faith kind of moment with
your first round draft pick, where normally it's fairly simple. Right,
first round draft picks were all signed a long time ago.
Look at the guys around him, they were all early
May where they signed their deals.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And then you have this now all the second round
picks finally getting their stuff situated here and it's just
a done deals. It was another weird one too, But
again going back to contract language and guarantees and and
some of the verbiage therein right where where that kind
of dragged out, But for the Bengals never exactly have
been on the you know better organization lists. Right, Okay,
(12:25):
here's here's how to run, here's how to run an
organization topped the bout. No, they've they've been duct tape
and bandages and you know, bring your own dollar for
the coke machine kind of things all the way through.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
We've certainly t J.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Huschmanzada, who follows you on Saturday mornings. He's told plenty
of tales during his Oh I bet he's.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Got tons of stories.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
He was there for the really rough years, right with
like Carl Pickens and those guys.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Right, so you go and he and TJ or He
and Ocho Cinco together, Carson and all those guys ever
playing together, and you had some great talent, but also
a lot of things behind to where Carson Palmer just
said I'll retire.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They let Marvin Lewis hang around way too long.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well that that's one of those old theories. But it's
it's on some level the Mike Tomlin thing. It's still winning.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Tomlin had way more success though, right than Marvin.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think, yeah, I mean, well, you got your title, right,
you got your title and such but Marvin Lewis took
them from nothing to respectability and consistency. But A to
B didn't get from B to C. The biggest issue
I a long time ago. Yeah, the biggest issue I
have with.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
The Stewart thing real quick is every other you know,
first round pick in the past didn't have to deal
with this sure, So I'm just curious, like, why now
Mike Brown puts his foot down about this guaranteed language
because every other first round pick is in the same boat,
Like the contracts are so cookie cutter now in the
first round. I just don't understand why you're putting a
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foot down about this.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
That is the multi billion dollar question, which I guess
if he sits in front of the microphone long enough,
he hasn't stopped him from saying other stuff, so he
might jump in there as well. We'll see. But yeah,
Trey Hendrickson hanging out down in Florida. He was enjoying
the nice road ahead of him earlier today.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It was like he was escaping Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I'm out. I'm not doing this Ohio thing. At Jared
Smith That's where you find him on Twitter. Find me
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the other impass and some of the fun and excitement
as Micah Parsons got in front of a microphone one
day after Jerry Jones took him and Dak Prescott the task,
we'll do that as we continue Jase The Smith Show
(14:48):
with Me Mike Carmon.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
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Speaker 4 (16:03):
Come out Baseball Continuing deep into the night here Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith showould be Mike Carmon, No Jason
Smith this week tonight, it's Jared Smith in instead at
Jared Smith Bets.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's where you find him.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
What would chronicle be chronicled as perhaps a meaningless home run,
but it all counts just the same. In the wash
for show, Hey Otani to run shot ten to seven.
Now in the nine to two outs, will Smith at
the plate? Well, let's make it a final Smith goes
down trying to check his swing, goes through the zone.
(16:37):
It's a final ten to seven. How many people are
hate betting the Dodgers right now?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, Our producer asked us that during the break.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I think there's a strong level of pessimism about where
they're priced. Not necessarily hate betting, but there's such a
big favorite every night, Mike, it's almost impossible to bet
on them unless you've got like some really good info
that you know, maybe one of their back end starters
(17:07):
outperforms their their back of their baseball card and you're
going to get a good showing from them. But the
way that this bullpen is performing for you to be
betting real money on them to win a game at
the level that they're priced at most nights, which is
a big favorite, I just think there's so many better
ways to bet the Dodgers or against them, like I
(17:29):
would be betting on shoe Hey Otani home run props,
which if you just catch that one in the ninth inning,
you're feeling like you stole money. Yeah, I mean again,
and you know he's probably gonna win the MVP, and
the Dodgers are probably going to be you know, they're
probably going to win the division. They're probably gonna, you know,
make another run at least to the NLCS.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But I just don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
In a seven game series, when it's night in, night out,
and then the teams really get to know each other, right,
those series can get pretty intimate, especially when it's Dodgers Padres.
We've seen those series get hot and heavy. I don't
know if they have the backbone late to really get
across the finish line. I'm very interested to see what
(18:12):
kind of series prices we get once we get to
the postseason. I mean, you throw those Milwaukee starters that
we saw tonight in the last couple nights again, Woodruff,
Peralta and now this kid Mizerowski. I think those three
guys are better than anyone the Dodgers are putting out there, right.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Say, whenever you get into a short series, yeah, give
me the starters all day, every day, especially guys that
you know have consistently been able to work deeper into
a game. Right. As we talked about a little bit
earlier in the show for those that missed it to
recap it, you know, the bad Penny kind of philosophy
(18:47):
of the more times you go to the pen odds
are one guy is not feeling it, upset stomach, big
moment on bad control, whatever the case may be, fighting
with the catcher oversigned, and you have no idea all
of it comes to play showing out with Tony currently
implied odds or ninety four percent that he wins the
(19:08):
MVP at a Pete crow Armstrong. Meanwhile, on the other side,
you've got Aaron Judge minus six ninety nine ahead of
Cal Rawley, who's now a plus four point fifty, and
then you get to one hundred to one plus for
school Bol Ramirez. By the way, Ramirez an interesting run
back to twenty twenty again for another time in his career.
(19:29):
He's a guy that I just out of aged. As
as I do everybody else, I age myself. Sometimes there's
players that you know, get caught in this little vacuum
where I forget, oh wow, that guy's really been around
a minute. So he's done some tremendous stuff, no question
about it. He's only three away from Barry and Bobby Bonds,
who did that ten times each in their careers.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, there's I mean, listen, I.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Think there's a lot of great players in baseball that
really go onto the radar because it's a it's such
a team sport, you know, and that's why you get
the Mike Trouts that. I mean, he might have one
of the best careers that no one really remembers in
thirty years, you know, because it's just his team never
really did anything.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Well remember what he was, right, I mean, Ernie Banks
will always be again. Yeah, I never want a damn thing. Example,
my guy Frank Thomas had the first first ten years
he was up there and being compared to all the greats,
and then he became a wandering minstrel at the end
where you have pictures of him in a blue Jay's
uniform and now he still don't commercials.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Well you know what, and got to make no money.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
She'll like it too, Yeah, she'll She'll love it is
him and Doug Footie.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Right, that's right here you go after no question about it.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Masculinity. Jared Smith Betts where you find him on Twitter?
Find me over at Swoonedo. We talked a little bit
about the Bengals situation, and yesterday we had Jerry Jones
and he was getting his thoughts out about Micah Parsons,
Dak Prescott, you name it. If you'd let the mic on,
he might have had some other side swipes along the way. Well,
(21:02):
Micah Parkson's had the opportunity to respond. Earlier in the show,
we had the the clip kind of talking about hey,
looking around the league, everybody else gets taken care of.
But then he was asked, boy blank, you know about
relationship and talking to Jerry Jones for each other, but stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Gets seven the media. Have you had a conversation with
him after press No, But I'm gonna say I'm gonna
talk to him.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
You know, I just thought as a whole life, you know, everyone's.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Situation is differently, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (21:30):
At the end of the day, Like I'm here for
my teammates, you know, I'm not here to please another
grown man.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
I'm here for them. You know.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
I want to be here with Trey watching rehab, watching
him on the field, watching group. I want to be
here bat only tim Still, like, if I'm here for
these guys, I'm not here for him, you know. So
I think, you know, I think at the end of
the day, he's on the field with us. You know,
we're on the field playing the games and things like that.
So I'm gonna just control my teammates, keep boosting it,
and you know, we're just gonna keep playing together.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, so certainly talking about getting with his teammates also
grown men. So that quote well intentioned, kind of a
little handhanded, but you know the points well taken. I
want to be on the field with my guys. I
want to be able to play. Talking about Travon Diggs,
who was standing there with him as they met the media,
you hear the throng of fans behind them.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah, here's a a concert the Backstitt Boys concer going
on behind it.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'll tell you Whychtar.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Turns out man, that Cowboys camp is a different animal.
I had was blessed when I was writing, more so
than than radio. When I was doing stuff for Fox
Sports dot Com and I lived down the East Coast,
I would go up and down the corridor going to
training camps and you'd get some access, some better than others.
Pittsburgh was always very accommodating, but you'd have fifteen thousand
(22:48):
people for a nine am, wow, hundred degree workout like
the Beatles on a Wednesday morning. Like I mean, that's
the kind of crowd that you get Green Bay. The
you know, tradition of riding the.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Bicycles and whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
But they would have ridiculous crowds filling up the sidelines
and the outer fences and everything, just trying to get
a glimpse of things. In Oxnart, it's the same thing, right,
Go past the strawberry patches, go past a lot of farms,
and you'll end up at what has become a megaplex
(23:21):
for the cowboys and get in there and sell, sell,
sell here in southern California. So the sounds that you
heard behind it, yeah, you got camps, You've got tons
of kids, families that show out. Jerry's always shaking hands,
kissing babies and talking to folks, and certainly the players
do a good job of doing that and like meeting
(23:42):
that responsibility to the fans. But you can hear it
Micah Parson's voice. He's kind of tired of it and
just wants it done. Even if he knows the inevitability
that Jerry will signed the check, it's still the can
we just get this done? Because to the Jerry Jones
point of hey, any day something bad can happen. Longer
this plays out like you're tempting fate to a degree,
(24:05):
if you believe in such things.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, and I think, and you've covered him obviously, You've
been to the training camp, so you've.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Obviously covered these situations a lot more than me.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I look at it very much from the analytical gambling perspective.
Micah Parsons is one of the top five defensive players
in the sport, and to even risk upsetting him and
pushing him further away from my franchise is not a
risk I'd be willing to take, even if that is
the modus operande for what Jerry's done in the past.
(24:37):
So we talk about this with quarterbacks, right, they wear
the red jersey. In practice, they are the exception to
the rule. They get treated differently. There are certain players,
not quarterbacks, that also get treated differently. I think Mike
is one of those players.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, I think when you get down to it, right,
it's also the scenario whereby if a season starts to
turn south. And I'm not gonna accuse anybody of sandbagging it,
but certainly we've got plenty of history of that two
week injury. And it goes back to what we were
talking about with Haliburton before. What's real, what's imagined, what
can you play through what can you not what you're
(25:15):
paying tolerance versus your tolerance of another situation beyond you
know what's going on with you physically, right, So if
the team gets out of the gate slowly and you're
a bit banged up, how quickly are you apt to
get back on the field, as opposed to saying, well,
they kind of screwed with my money, they screwed with
my team and my approach or whatever to where And
(25:37):
I'm not saying this for Mike. I'm taking this to
a larger, larger macro scale, to our macro micro conversations
that we have here on the show. And you so
a depthitely jumped into that phrame is just that, you know,
it's just the human condition, right, a feeling loved, respected, wanted, whatever.
And as much as you're bold into those guys in
(25:59):
the locker room, and they also see the you know,
the way the world works and have their own contracts
that they need to negotiate, so it's something that could
potentially spiral into a much bigger issue than it needs
to be.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Absolutely, I think Dallas is in better shape than people think.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Seven and a half wins is there over under I'd
go over.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And I think, honestly a lot of it too.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is the price right.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
They've been priced like Filet mignon in the last few years.
Now they're being priced like a Wendy's cheezburger, you know,
And I think that matters a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I also don't and Philly. I have this weird spidy
sense about Philly.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
And maybe this is like a conspiracy theory, but if
things were so buttoned up in Philly, the Eagles, I think,
outside of Chip Kelly going to the Raiders, the Eagles
made one of the most interesting hires of the entire offseason.
Right Kellen Moore's gone, He's in New Orleans. They promote Kevin.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Patula to OC and what do they do to add
to their offensive room.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
They don't bring in like a veteran NFL coach from
another team, maybe somewhere in the division where they know
Jalen Hurts, they know the Eagles, they know the NFC East.
They hire Scott Laffler, and you're like, who the heck
is Scott Laffler, the head coach of Bowling Green, to
be the new quarterback coach of the Eagles. Now, Scott's
got a really interesting history because he coached Tom Brady,
(27:20):
coached Tim Tebow. He had a very unique background at
Michigan at Florida way back in the day.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But he's been.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Coaching in the group of five in college football for
the last five years, turning around the Bowling Green program.
I thought that was a really interesting hire. It told
me two things. One they might not be fully sold
on Kevin Patulo as the OC. Two they really think
Jalen Hurts needs a lot of work. Because when you
bring in a college coach to kind of be the
quarterback guru, you're preaching fundamentals. You're preaching things that maybe
(27:49):
Jalen you think he's up to speed on, but maybe
not fully there. I thought that was a really unique hire,
and I think it kind of shows a little bit
of weakness in the Eagles offensive room, Like is Kevin
Patulo going to be the main voice or a Scott
Loaffler who has more experience, older coach Tom Brady, coach
Tim Tebow gonna have final say when Jalen Hurts his
you know, indiscretions maybe get brought to the table. So
(28:12):
I thought that was a really unique hireer Obviously, Washington
had a great year. Maybe they'd take a step back,
and the Giants are a dumpster fire. So I do
think the NFC East with Dallas like you might have
an opportunity with a favorable price and maybe some weakness
elsewhere in the division where this could actually be the
year where no one expects them to win the division,
but maybe they actually compete.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Current ods bet MGM Eagles the favorite at minus one fifty,
Commanders plus two twenty five, Cowboys at plus six hundred,
the Giants at plus.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Twenty eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Now way bet the Giants.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well again, it goes back to that. How about you
just burn that dollar bill and see what kind of
cool Give it.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
To me, and I'll invest it in like a certificate
of deposits somewhere, and I'll give it to you in twenty.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Years and it'll be a few more nicely done the investment.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Let me in this for you at Jared Smith Betts
if that's where you want to invest your time and resource,
and check out his discord and everything he's got going
you hear him on Countdown Saturday Mornings with Rich and Brian.
No question about it as we flow through. Follow me
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Take us with you on the iHeartRadio app wherever you traverse.
(29:20):
Now it's notud to take a one last turn to
the news desk for the evening that Dodgers game is
a final and with it a soul and Steve Dessay.
Speaker 10 (29:30):
Sho Heyotani has homered in four straight games for the
first time in his major league career. This was his
thirty sixth homer this season, but the Dodgers allowed four
unearned runs and lost ten to seven to Minnesota. Dodger
reliever Tanner Scott last night suffered elbow inflammation went on
the injured list. Alexis Diaz was called up and not good. Tonight,
Dodger reliever Ben Casparrius left with injury. It is called
(29:53):
a calf cramp. The Dodgers, until last night's win, had
lost ten of twelve. They're back in the L column night,
and the lead in the NL West over the Padres
is two and a half games.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It was a nine game lead on July the third.
Speaker 10 (30:08):
The three and a half, I should say the Padres
fell short in their ninth inning attempt at a comeback
down four to one. In the ninth loss for to
three at Miami, but the Giants were victorious. They'd lost
six straight but won nine nothing at Atlanta, playing Rafael
Devers at first base. By the way Texas in Tampa
Bay with Victory's, Colorado and Houston as well, Seattle ended
(30:29):
Milwaukee's eleven game winning streak one nothing. Cole Rawley is
thirty ninth homer Logan Gilbert the winning pitcher with ten
strikeouts in six and a third. In fact, the Brewers
offense was two for thirty at the plate tonight with
thirteen strikeouts. Milwaukee tied for first again in the NL
Central with the Cubs. Cubs shut out Kansas City sixth
to nothing. Matthew Boyd eleven and three got the win.
(30:52):
The cub stole seven bases in the game. Rich Hill
and his Royals debut, took the loss, but allowed just
one earned run in five innings of work. The Yankees
are three games back in the AL Ease after winning
at Toronto, the first place team five to four on
a solo homer in the top of the ninth by
Ben rice Off. Closer Jeff Hoffman. Max Scherzer had started
(31:12):
in Toronto. He allowed a three run homer in the
first wound up going five innings, no decision. Toronto, by
the way, had won eleventh straight at home Jays eleven
left on bit Should I just start over?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
No, that's it, that's in rewind.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
In the NLS, the Phillies are still a half game
over the Mets. Phillies beat Boston four to one, Kyle
Schwarber his thirty third homer. Christopher Sanchez, the winning pitcher,
is nine and two. He tossed a complete game with
twelve strikeouts no walks, by the way. This weekend Phillies
at Yankees and Toronto at Detroit, Mets beat the Angels
three to two. Detroit is slumping badly. They've lost eight
(31:52):
of nine. Lost at Pittsburgh tonight eight to five wins
for Washington and Cleveland. At the Women's Soccer Euro SIMMIS,
England somehow won an overtime against Italy two to one.
Final as this weekend on Fox. The other semi is
on Fox TV tomorrow three pm Eastern defending World Cup
champion Spain against Germany. Five WNBA games tonight wins for
(32:13):
Las Vegas and Dallas, La as well. Minnesota twenty one
to four beat up Chicago ninety one sixty eight. New
York Now sixteen and six defeated Indiana ninety eight eighty four.
Kaitlin Clark out again with the groin entry. She's missed
half the games of her team this year. Ratings for
last Saturday's All Star Game were down thirty five percent
from last year. The NBA Summer League MVP is Utah's
(32:36):
Kyle Philipowski from Duke. Patriots wide receiver Stefan Diggs was
cleared to practice after last year's torn ACL. Veteran safety
Jamal Adams signed with the Raiders, who are now coached
by Pete Carroll. Carolina linebacker Josie Jewell was released he
still has concussion symptoms. Saints safety Tron Matthew retired after
twelve seasons. New Orleans signed safety Julian Blackman. The Dolphins
(32:59):
cut backup quarterback Brett Rippon. Defensive end Trey Hendrickson of
the Bengals did not report to camp. He wants an extension.
Commander's wide receiver Terry McLaurin did not report to training camp,
seeking a new contract.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Back to you see, We're doing a great week without
a lot of Mets talk, but I'm gonna have two
things for you yesterday. Go back and watch some of
the video of Stratton and Jackson WWE Knight.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That was kind of fun as they did mock ups
of all the players.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Also a thirty for thirty being made for Francisco Lindor.
He's over his last thirty at the plate?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Say what did he?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
What does he do to desk thirty straight at Bats
of Futility?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So he's taking as many nights off as Jason state.
That sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Wow, that a thing. Does Jason take a lot of
time off? Well?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
No, I mean we're usually here. But when he does,
he disappears.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He seems like a like a like a warrior when
an iron man of radio. That's the vibe.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You don't know Jason Smith for he's a Jets fan, so.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He's gotta have Wow he's bruises. Yeah, right, as a
fellow Jets fan, we've been through the wars.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
He's a Jets Nixon Mets fan.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's all you two thirds of that Jets Nicks. I
did get the Yankees, so I got the longer end
of that stick.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
See there you go. You have chosen wise.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I chosen wise.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
He ignored his dad and picked the Mets. Thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
All Right, coming up next, we finish it off with
some big thoughts for the larger betting world as you
move forward and start prognosticating coming out of all these
media days, and one last tribute to a legend and
his sports connections. As we finish up, He's Jared Smith
and for Jason Smith, I'm Mike Harmon.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
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