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Mike Harmon and Dan Beyer pay tribute to Hulk Hogan. Justin Fields dislocates his toe but may only be out for 1-2 weeks. And Cowboys WR CeeDee Lamb like their receivers over anybody! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Over under odd brother references over the course of the
night and random drops from Alex Tieshert one hundred and
seven point five. Welcome in another night Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith. Dan Byer in
his stead for a second straight night at dan Byer
on Fox Tags in so like we're the mega powers here.

(00:51):
Smith has been excized. I don't know if that makes
me Hogan or savage. Either way, I'm brother sitting pretty.
I'm either the macho king or I'm the guy that's
stirred the drinks. Welcome in for another night.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Big wrestling shoes to fill. I have tonight on what
is one of those nights where you will remember in
your radio career how you talked about it. Mike, Yes,
the loss of a legend.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, it's tough, you know, still reeling from the Ozzy
Osbourne side of things.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
If you're not a huge metal head or go down
that road, then maybe it didn't have that effect. But
for me it's you know, a life of that. And
then certainly for my brothers and I we were trading
videos and clips and remembrances of matches that we saw
live or watched, you know, on pay per view. Going

(01:41):
back to WrestleMania one where my dad. I was talking
to my dad today about this, the bold strategy of
dropping us off at a theater because WrestleMania one was
only available on closed circuit television in a couple of spots,
and in Chicago was one theater, which was not a
particularly good part of town. But my dad, somehow we

(02:02):
convinced him to drop the three of us off on
the middle of three boys, and off we went inside
to watch the spectacle that was WrestleMania one on closed
circuit television. Got to our seats, sitting there with all
our snacks and just for three hours of chaos, listening
to people and you know, yelling at each other around you.

(02:23):
And that was it, right, we were hooked live events.
We'd always been to baseball games or whatever, but that
was a different thing. So selling baseball cards became a
all right. Not only were we gonna go to games, Oh,
we're gonna go to some concerts, but damn it, the
AWA's in town. We're gonna go see the Road Warriors
beat the hell out of Baron von Rashka and whatever else.
Now the WWF feel like the Hogan first gets in

(02:44):
for the you know, the brief history lesson for those
who haven't watched all the the big documentaries of this stuff.
It was all territories, so you didn't get a lot
of crossover. You had the Saturday morning TV show and
I was like, those were the guys from New York.
You had the guys for that traverse the Midwest, and
then you had some promotions out on the West Coast,
and then down in Texas with the vonn Erics, well

(03:06):
we know about them. They had a show that was
on Saturday night WWE. Then WWF you had Saturday Morning Superstars,
and then you'd watch it again at eleven o'clock at
night in Spanish.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
That's that's what we did. I remember in the morning,
I didn't realize that that was the night gas.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, you came back on Telemundo to see it again.
So that's what we had. And then all of a sudden,
they started showing up in Rosemont every once in a while,
which was from my parents. I might as well have
been driving to New York to see something north side southside.
That divide remains, But like the earliest memories and my
brothers and I, we still make the pilgrimage. We went

(03:45):
to WrestleMania last year. Right now we're trying to decide
whether we're going to do it again. But Hulk Hogan
going back to Thunderlips, I have a Thunderlips cape. Yeah,
there's an admission on National radio. So eventually I'll be
wearing that around. I don't have the wrestling boots yet,
but it's He's a seminal figure and obviously problematic, and

(04:06):
you can read the bio for all the negative and
downright terrible things and things that he said through his career,
but for the lens of where we are here in
the Fox Sports Radio studios, the cross section sports entertainment information,
there's no denying the impact he had on an industry,
on pop culture, those crossovers and the growth of an industry,

(04:30):
even the guys that are like, yeah, I really didn't
like Terry the man, Terry Bolea, I owe my entire
life and what I've built off his back and that
crossover going all the way back to beating the iron
cheek at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I don't want to say it would be negligence if
we didn't at least mention stuff that happened down the line.
But Mike I sent out a tweet on X, a
post on X however you want it, and it was
probably about ten to fifteen minutes before show that I'd
be with you tonight. And I've gotten a couple of
tweets already, and you know, there's just Nick tweets in

(05:09):
saying there's no honoring haul Cogan and making other comments
about who he was, what he may have done. That
was actually to the Fox Sports Radio sweet. But there
is there's something to that. There is something to hul
Cogan that people didn't like. But I think you hit
on something at the beginning of it of what's happened

(05:30):
over these past what five days that it's been. It's
not about Hulk Hogan. There we'll talk about hul Cogan.
Even though he's gone, We'll continue to talk about hul Cogan,
and that conversation of good and bad will continue. But
what it is is it's about us where we were

(05:50):
thirty forty years ago. And that's why that's why the
passing of Malcolm Jamal Warner was so difficult for so
many because tragic story, but it's also that's theo who
we grew up with, Ozzy Osbourne, same thing, the music
we grew up with, the TV show then that follows.

(06:11):
That's all about like us and you think about that era,
so I know, like there's people who are ready to go.
It's just I think it's about us. It sounds very selfish,
but I think all of those memories and there's very complicated.
A lot of people have complicated histories, and I'm not
trying to downplay what hull Cogan was through, but I

(06:33):
think that's what makes it so. I don't know, like
such a direct hit on your emotions and your feelings.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
But it's a touch point for everybody. And it's something
I've preached on air here at Fox Sports Radio. Back
into the personal life and why I go to as
many live events, as I do with my daughters. Right,
there are very few moments and we certainly all you
need to do is pull up any non entertainment page
in hell, even it pervades, there is just the division

(07:01):
divides politically, philosophically, theologically, whatever you want to go to.
You can get in fights with everybody. And you know,
you read a tweet or two right there that are
just a microcosm there, right, just a hey, hey, you
know you can't you can't like no, no, no, there's we
can figure out where that separation is. And to your point,

(07:22):
for me, with live events, theater concerts, yeah, they might
not play my favorite song and they played yours, and
it's like, ah, I get screwed, you got the good song. Whatever,
But it's all the energy is going in the same direction. Right.
If you go into a synagogue, into services, whatever your denomination,
and so many vastly different things, you're all there for

(07:45):
the same purpose. And most of the time in our
life that's not the case, right, sports and these entertainment pieces,
that's part of our collective shared experience. We look at
it through different lenses, and certainly some of the Hogan
stuff from his later years whether it's political or speech
in terms of racist terms, etc. Yeah, that's gonna cause problems.

(08:10):
But when we talk about just our collective experience of
the wrestling ring, yes, all that part of pop culture
and how you'd be at lunch and you'd be, you know,
starting to either pull out the action figures, talk about
whatever was on the next WrestleMania or pay per view card,
or who you liked or didn't like, or you started

(08:31):
to do the cadence made all of us here in
sports radio of a certain age. We're channeling somebody, whether
you want to admit it or not. Whether it's Togan,
it's savage me I go down the road, warrior barking,
or rowdy Roddy Piper screaming like a lunatic and my
hand's flailing in the whole nine yards. I mean, it's
all there. It's all part of our our collective voice.

(08:53):
And I think it's just when you have a guy
of Hogan's status, when we talk about what the wrestling
industry was, then the lull, then the nWo, and then
all these years later where they're at now. I mean,
it's all on the backs of those guys. He was
the head of the Snake.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, absolutely, And I just the the the latter years
of Hogan to his own doing probably weren't kind right.
The years to come. This will always be a part
of his reputation. I'm just not going to do it
on the day that he died, just just like I
look back at look back at the nineteen eighties, Mike,
where superstars were the thing, the mega mega superstars. Everything

(09:35):
was big then, whether it be music with Michael Jackson
or Prince and Madonna, whether it be movies, you know,
the Star Wars franchise, continuing superheroes, which you know is
something that I'm no no longer into. You definitely are.
I remember christ.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Let's go, I.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Remember Superman, Christopher Reeve, like like, those are the things
this was say in not understanding wrestling. This was almost
a real life superhero that was on par with the
names in my growing up of what I liked and
music and sports and magic and Bird and that era
of the NBA, Like he's Hull. Cogan is a part

(10:18):
of that. So it's a part of our childhood. And
so that's that's what this is about. That's that's what
today is about for me, is we will do that
and time will do that, Mike, time will, Time will
show how hul Cogan is remembered. I just refuse to
do it on the day that he died, that we're

(10:39):
going to sit there and be like, oh, good riddance.
Give me just take a little breather, I think, because
it's it's about I want to look back at my
childhood and remember those memories. Yes, yes, absolutely, and he
provided that or he was a part of that. And
I just it's, man, I can't I get it. It
happened previously and it will happen throughout. But we can

(11:01):
just take a breather on the day someone dies and
just I don't pay respect. But I think it's more
about us than anything else.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean some of it is the farming for
engagement when you get into the social media or the
hot take nonsense theater and those cylinders as it were, right,
so folks knew they'd be able to engage and enrage
a bunch of folks and build their stats. So that's
part of it. It's always there's always a question for
any of the stuff anymore to me. Of if we

(11:29):
were to put up a big pie chart and we
put someone up to a live detector test. How much
do you really feel this versus its performative because you
know people are going to get pissed off. Sure, Right
with the Hogan stuff, how many people really didn't know
much of any of that. They've seen him shilling for
real American beer. Maybe they saw him show up and
do a speech for Trump during the campaign, but otherwise

(11:52):
he'd been kind of out of sight, out of mind. Right,
He's not been in great health. You and I were
talking a little before the show. There's been some rumblings
of some health issue. Use the cause of death, as
they stated right now at the age of seventy one,
a cardiac arrest right down the street from where my
folks are. Actually, his old Hogan's Beach was probably about
a five to six mile drive up the Causeway with

(12:17):
all the merchandise and an actual wrestling ring where they
do photo ops and whatever else. And you always see
the Jimmy Hart, who's his business partner, the Mouth of
the South, still getting after it after all these years.
But it's the kind of thing for today. It was
just good to go back to a time when it
was simple, right, because you know, at WrestleMania one I'm

(12:39):
eleven years old. We're being trusted again to go into
a pretty weird part of town. My dad wasn't coming
with no adult supervision. My little brother that we had
to look out for him, but it was the trust
of this means enough to you guys to let you
go do this, and live events just been everything.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
So it's the kind of thing where, yeah, he's complicated
and he wasn't my favorite wrestling. We were talking about
this before the show too. Technically not great. The leg
drops sucked as a finishing move. We can all do that.
The whole gout thing was cool, but that often imitated,
never duplicated, right kind of thing with that. But you
have the match with the Rock where you go watch

(13:24):
that and just put some surround sound on you think
you're watching the super Bowl with the amount of pops
that you have at every turn in that match, some
of the other battles and all of those. So, yeah,
for history's gonna write it. There's plenty of books out
there already. I've already talked to several people in my
collective sphere because they know my love in and out

(13:46):
of wrestling and what we do with it here on
the program, but they're just like Ozzy Osbourne is like, well,
I knew him from the reality show, which is a
whole interesting subplot to a lot of this. Right, the
Osbourne's came such a phenomenon. Likewise, Hogan knows Best and
his daughter had a show for a bit and whatever
else that people got to know him and the collection

(14:09):
of characters that were around through that. So it's it's
just that curiosity of where where you came in or
jumped off of the train, as it were.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, there's these things that just that kind of hit
you take you back to that point. And then Malcolm
Jamal Warner passing earlier this week and the tragic events
that happened like that was that was one of them.
I remember growing up and watching The Cosby Show.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
But think about it. You can't watch it now because
of what's transpired. Sure, think about it there. I mean
for obviously for the Bill Cosby stuff, but a lot
of people have been deprived of seeing. Sure, those performances
that show, like unless you've got a DVD, I don't
think it's on in real.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
There's some there's some Yeah, Yeah, there's a network or
two that that still does air reruns of it, but
again it and not to bring it up, but Bill
Cosby obviously careers changed in how we think of him
from back then, but that didn't change how I looked
at THEO. It didn't change that. And I understand with that.

(15:12):
Carl Cogan, I get it. You can do it tomorrow,
you could do it the next day, you could do
it to the end of time. You've done it for
the last you know how many years. I'm not trying
to downplay what he did. I just think on the day, Mike,
where we've heard, you know, we get a tweet like that,
and for people have tried to bust up the wrestling union.
That was one of the points that the tweeter made.

(15:32):
I get it probably wasn't a great thing to do,
really screwed other guys, but look at what he also
meant to all these other people. Give them twenty four
hours to at least deal with the news.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, I go through the unionization, go back to the
steroid trials. I mean, there's a million things, yea where
you could dial it up, but it doesn't take away
from the industry and what it meant to pop culture.
To your point, what is it forty one years ago,
Careless Whisper came into the world. My going back to
pop super stars and what they meant to the world

(16:03):
and George Michael and Wham. But so much to talk
about over the course sonight, we'll get to that. Remembering
cartoon form, he was voiced by Brad Garrett from Everyone
Loves Raymond on that famous You also had the dad
from the Fresh Prince, James Avery was the junkyard dog.
How about that random knowledge? I got to do something

(16:25):
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(17:09):
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(18:58):
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(19:20):
Because as soon as you start seeing training camp videos
on a great regularity, Dan, you know it's coming. You
know it's almost that time for things to get back
into session. And this morning was another one of those
fun examples of the power good or bad, depending on
how you want to run with it, of social media.
Because you know, we traverse in the wonderful world of

(19:44):
New York sports a bunch with my guy Jason Smith,
particularly as pertrainings to his love of the Mets, Nicks
and New York Football Jets, and a couple of times
he's been roped in for the Jets quarterback of the future.
And as soon as the guy is no longer on
the roster, that basically does the you're dead to me

(20:05):
moving on, moving, taps his hands and moves on. Well,
today we started seeing tweets. Oh, Justin Fields has left
the field with a significant injury. He is being carded
off the field. He is being attended to And there's
some videos circulating noted jets honks on other networks who

(20:26):
I shall not name, maybe from my alma mater, crying
on air essentially about bad bad luck. Really you're kidding yourself.
But all all of it to say for Justin Fields
leaving the field shades of two years ago Aaron Rodgers
four snaps in his greatest moment was channeling his inner

(20:48):
hol Cogan as a real American running out onto the
field with an American flag.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
See what we do.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
We we weave a rich tapestry here on Fox Sports Radio.
But this was the tweet from from earlier. Right, you
have the after medical evaluation Justin Fields sustained a dislocated toe. Now,
I don't mean to diminish her or take down the

(21:13):
idea of I don't know what his pain threshold is
related to a disclocated toe. I know my daughter's got
one that pops out of socket on a soccer field
with some regularity. If she gets a stop in the action,
she'll take the cleat off and you'll hear the click right,
and then she's back out there. Oh, strap it, back
out and get after it. So I don't know where
Justin Fields is on this continuum. But I'd see not weak,

(21:37):
but the but the initial tweets on all of this
Dan where it's significant it was a non contact injury,
It's like, well, no, it turns out he ended up
getting stepped on.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I blame Adam Schefter six point nine million views with
a tweet that says Jets quarterback Justin Fields was carted
to the locker room with an apparent lower leg injury.
That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, I mean, look, in hockey terms, he wasn't wrong.
In football terms, he knows what he's doing. He knows
exactly what he's doing. Engagement, just themative.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's exactly That's exactly the problem. And that's what makes
it so frustrating. And it's frustrating, Mike because when Adam
Schefter does get a real scoop, that's the value. Honestly,
Ian Rappoport, Tom Pelisero, Adam Schefter, they'll get a majority
of their news all at the same time. They're all

(22:36):
the same agent's information and it comes out or the
team contact that's where it's sent out. So you have
to know when all of these insiders are tweeting this
that they have that same information, but he puts it
in a way that then does starts the chain reaction

(23:00):
to just what you despise. Adam Schefter caused all of this,
all of the social media freak out because he knew
exactly what he was doing. To your point, he wasn't wrong,
wasn't wrong, but he wasn't necessarily entire entirely accurate and specific.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
No, that's shit, the specificity of it, right, because you
leave it up speculation as you would anyway, it's like
already left with an injury. All right, what is it?
We want to know what's interesting about the tweet? And
this is where the fun of social interaction and social
media goes. Six point nine million views, to your point,
only four point forty six hundred retweets. I mean, that's

(23:42):
not a hefty ratio of folks pushing your information along.
So that's kind of an interesting thing. Saying nothing of Schefter,
it's just kind of speaking to the social media again.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Why did twenty four thousand like that? Why would they
like that to happen to just because it's a jet? Yeah,
he against Greenberg and Smith's they need the thumbs down.
But there are other there are other tweets that came
out Mike that were much more descriptive. Brian Costello was
quote tweeted by Tom Pellisero Brian covers the Jets for

(24:14):
the New York Post, saying Field's taken inside on a cart,
pulled up during a play in team drills and has
had his leg being checked. Since that's a lot more calming.
Then carted to the locker room with an apparent lower
leg injury. Just just bad bad form. I know it's

(24:34):
the preseason for everybody, but bad form by Adam Schefter
on that tweet.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, so we go through and he gets referenced to
Jason Cole who joined us yesterday. I hope you guys
made up.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I was gonna say, don't remind me, no, just kidding.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah. So you have rich Semini, who covers the Jets.
He had his his tweet that went out and started
going through quote Glenn won't speculate on the severity of
fields injury, professes faith in to Rod Taylor. Remember it's
to Rod Taylor. He made sure to point that out
to us. Also notes that Adrian Martinez has some familiarity

(25:09):
with the Detroit system now the Jets system. So going on,
Glenn believes someone stepped on field ste He goes all
the way through and then later on when he submitted
his full practice report, Fields avoided serious injury, listed his
day to day and follows even even that with the
Field's toe scare overshadowed what was a good day by
the defense and cornerback Brandon Stevens, so immediately circling back,

(25:32):
it's like, hey, hey, hey, that's over there now. Jets
show so positivity out of Jets camp, but it's the
the inner interaction and we've always done it with hockey
of you know what, it's a lower body injury, it's
like is it a knee? Is it an ankle? Sometimes
you don't know right, just the way the guy goes
off the ice in this particular case, what you just

(25:54):
you get nothing. And he's such a monster in the
space right It's like if Shams tweets something, he gets
what everybody because Windy gets his run, but even lebron
sonning him a bit has pushed him off. Mcmhmmon's now
on the inside. So he gets his run and then
Woj disappeared. He just said I'm out of this.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yes, if there was a mount rushmore of insiders. Schefter's
on it. Yeah, it's Glazer, no doubt Glo.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
He's the one guy that gets information that the rest
of these he's not getting the group tasks correct or
he doesn't bother to pte repost what he gets on
the group text.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Woach would be on that. Schefter's on it like he
just you can't deny the following. That's what's slowey irresponsible
about it. That's what's so frustrating about it is that
he knew exactly what he was doing. Because when you
say lower left the lower leg injury, now, especially coming
off of an NBA season, we immediately think achilles. And

(26:52):
to your point, starting out the segment of what happened
with Aaron Rodgers in his opening game, that's why he
knew what was going on.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, you say, and you put in no non contact. Now,
in this case, he did get stepped on, but you know,
if it doesn't, it's not a big hit. So maybe
you missed it right and you're not looking to go
into var in the process.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
And Schefter didn't write no contact, but he did write
a parent which makes it, I think even worse because
then you're just saying like you're like it's it's apparent
like I'm not sure, but that's yeah, that's that's apparently.
Oh my goodness. By the way, by the way, Adam,

(27:33):
Adam Shelfer, Shelfer, that's pretty tweeted. Ruptured Achilles out for
the season. Adam Shelfer, the fake account has been getting
people on on that. But he's schefter wasn't that much better?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, but he's picked up the torch from a darned
chefter because that.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Oh gosh, yes, a darn schefter. That's the way to know.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Welcome back NFL.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Six hundred and eighteen followers as opposed to the twelve million.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
But if you don't click through right, there's ways to
get yourself a bogus looking blue mark up near your name,
so who's and you could buy it? So who knows
if you're just doing a quick glance.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I forgot a darn chef.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Darn chef sent sentel versus Central and on down the line.
There you go. Justin fields avoids major injuries. So uh,
for now, the Jets breeze breathe a sigh of relief.
But I couldn't tell you. I think I took enough
time to turn and make a cup of coffee to

(28:38):
where I started seeing the images of Kirk Cousins and
a Jets you, oh god timeline Immediately the guy has
a hangnail and it's five minutes late for practice. As
he gets it attended to, it's gonna prompt. Kirk Cousins tweets.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, that's just what the Jets need, another old quarterback
coming off of an achilles injury. If that were to happen,
like if something were to happen to Justin, you got
Torod Taylor as mentioned earlier, What's what's the difference? You know?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Like, I mean, paye him nothing and move on.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
The Jets model this year should be punt because that's
kind of what this season is. This is a whole
new reset under this new regime. There aren't great expectations
for what's gonna happen with the Jets, so they're kind
of punting on twenty twenty five. What would you bring
in a quarterback that makes forty million dollars a year?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Giant pictures of Drew Aller and nuss Meyer and maybe
even an archie many sure sitting around our arch man
and I should say five and a half wins. One
of those teams sitting at the bottom of the universe
as we traverse here. Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith Show
with Me, Mike Carbon Dan Byer in for Jason tonight.
You hear Dan during the week on the as part

(29:48):
of The Gottlieb Show, and Cavino and Rich you hear
them with me Sunday mornings nine to eleven Pacific. I
remember this time that we haven't switched a full on
football mode just yet in terms of our Divide and Conquer,
the work on the weekends, and of course the I
Watch Reflex podcast, all the fantasy news. We've got some
more rankings coming up a little bit later in the evening,
but now it's time to turn our attention over to

(30:09):
the news desk, Full Slate, major League Baseball, maybe some
apparent Lee's and other terms mixed in her verbiage. For
the evening, it's Monty Malanya's.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
What's up, guys?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Carrie Rhodes fell for that fake Adam Schefter account Shelfer.
Shelfer So, I woke up this morning and he was like, no,
not Achilles, like that was his tweet, And I was like,
what is he talking about? And I had to go
look for it, and I was like, he got sent held.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
He got sent.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
Held, and I called him out on it already.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
He said, I know, I.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Saw that, and I was like, why didn't you double check?
Because but I agree with you, Dan Schefter should not
have worded it like that in the first place.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Well you know what you could have said, though, is
I saw the trailer for the new Percy Jackson season two.
Pretty good, right, Carrie? And see if it gets him
back on Nah, you just smack him upside that.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
The news in the NFL fellas that the Raiders are
releasing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, just one year after he
signed a four year, one hundred and ten million dollars deal.
The team is avoiding his remaining guarantees due to how
he's handled his foot injury rehab. Reports are that the
team wanted him to have surgery. He declined after several opinions.
Wilkins is filing a grievance, So we'll see how this

(31:22):
turns out. In baseball, well, the trade deadline is one
week away and the Mariners have acquired first baseman Josh
Naylor from the Arizona Diamondbacks. But right now, the Mariners
are losing to the Angels in LA one zero top
of the fourth inning. It's the only game left. The
others have wrapped up. The A's top the Astros five
to two, and the Cardinals held on to defeat the
Padres at home nine to seven. Blue Jay's handed the

(31:45):
Tigers another loss. They are one and ten in their
last eleven games. Eleven four was the final score there,
while while the Orioles avoided a sweep, they topped the
Guardians four to three. WNBA News Fever star Kaitlin Clark
has no timetable for her return. The team an out
to date. They did a further evaluations and there was
no additional injuries or damage. But she's just gonna rehab

(32:06):
with the priority on her long term health and well being.
That is what the team announced. Fever did top the
Aces already eighty to seventy, Sparks defeated the Sun one
O one to eighty six, Kelsey plump thirty points in
the wind, and the Storm Cruise passed the Sky ninety
five to fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
No Angel rees in that one. Back to you guys, so.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Manty, I gotta ask in terms of my team apparel,
you can be my stylist.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Can you think I could.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Rock that Indiana Fever Stranger Things look that they put out.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
You know, I haven't seen the shirt.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
I saw the video.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
So is there a shirt? Yeah? Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I'll get it.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, so they did it a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Now that I'm good, I'm gonna buy you on.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Come on, you could be in the upside down with
the side.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Down a Fever upside down shirt.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
I'm gonna get it.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
We say, we celebrate the life and times of David
Harbor wherever we can. We're gonna get you into his
full filmography before the night's over. Dan, no question about it.
Thanks Manty.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I'm looking at the shirts.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I'll let you know.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
There you go at Manzy Milanyos. We'll check back in
on that. I would be remiss if I didn't read
this tweet. You know, since we started with hul Cogan.
This comes from the account, the legacy account of the
Iron Cheek. Remember, no holk Corgan without Iron Chic, No
Iron Chic without hul Cogan. It's one guy I really
wish was still with us in his mortal coil because
he would have been a fun guy to try to

(33:20):
get on air and see how many times you could
dump someone in an interview segment.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I'll tell you the legends. I mean, Hogan outlived the many.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
And the tweet that I saw was like, how is
rick Flair outliving everybody?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well? That is that was Yes, he's a bit worse
for wear beat up. He did an interview with TMZ
and in praising Hogan made sure to bring in and
give a big hug to his battles with Ricky the
Dragon Steamboat, which was I thought pretty interesting. We always
had heat, we were great, never as good as when
I was fighting Steamboat, but I tell you it's it's

(33:59):
great stuff. It's a great theater. Hey, turning our attention
back into the fantasy land, we got one wide receiver
who's making some big, bold predictions and it ties to
something you said last night, Dan Byer. Does he crack
the top five? If so, where we'll tell you next
at Dan Byer on Fox find me over at Swollen
down Man.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith show with me,
Mike Carmon, no Jason today at stan Byer in his stead.
As we traverse the fun and exciting world of sports
and entertainment, we'll continue to remember the life and the
legacy of Hulk Hogan. Some of the soundbites just too
rich as we go through, but certainly looking at the

(34:48):
wide array of stories flowing through training camp. Yesterday we
did our fantasy quarterbacks and running back to top five,
and you dialed up a sleeper note in terms of
a guy you're expecting big things from, even if well,
perhaps the team itself is more bluster than performance, and
that's going down to the world of Dallas. Well, Cedee

(35:11):
Lamb went and made sure to point out, hey, you know,
when I'm on the field with Dak, I mean special
things can happen, right, I'm a guy that can get
it done. So every year we've got an opportunity. If
the two of us get together, it's going to be special.
So now when we look at our wonderful world of
the wide receiver position, Dan going back to last year

(35:34):
CD was eighth, did not play the final two weeks
of the season. So whenever we do this and cost
value adjusted, what have you about eighteen fantasy points per
game in PPR leagues. You do bring in George Pickens,
a guy that we've been waiting on to really find
that upper echelon, but let's face it, in Pittsburgh not

(35:56):
exactly running with a bunch of juggernauts to try to
make that happen. And also a guy that, as we talk,
maybe a little bit of Tyreek Hill trying to figure
out how much is pouting versus performance falling off versus
change in your quarterback trying to figure out what that
pie looks like. George Pickens was a guy that if
he didn't get fed early, it was operations shut down

(36:16):
and pout. So now, but together that's a dynamic duo
that is mightily fascinating, which is why Dak Prescott was
a guy that appeared on your radar in a big
way at the quarterback position. Last year, your top scorers,
Chase Jefferson, I'm on, Ross, Saint Brown, Brian Thomas for
all the misgivings and problems of the Jacksonville offense, was

(36:39):
still fourth, and then Drake London was number five, ahead
of Malite neighbors. Some interesting names right when you think
about their team performances, like just again showing that fantasy
performance can come despite an insignia on the side of
the helmet.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
You celebrate every game. You have to celebrate every team,
even if some teams did. I'll give you that fantasy
fruitful list that you would hope. It's funny that we're
talking about this, and Ceedee Lamb says it not because
I think it validates what I said yesterday. But we
did the top five quarterbacks, and I think you kind
of know who the top five quarterbacks are going to

(37:16):
be fantasy wise, Mike. My fifth quarterback was Joe Burrow
on the list, just because the rushing ability of Lamar
and Josh Allen and Jayden Daniels and Jalen Hurts just
provides something that Joe Burrow doesn't have and dak to
me where he is right now in his career. They're
not mirror images, but there are similarities between the Cowboys

(37:38):
and Cincinnati Bengals, and so now George Pickens comes in
ends up being maybe in that T Higgins spot that
you're like, hey, all right, Dallas probably has better offensive
line than what Cincinnati does. So you've got that going
for Dallas and Now, when you look at the receivers
that you mentioned, like something like Justin Jefferson, we know

(37:58):
is magnificent. But again there's the quarterback question. Ceedee Lamb
doesn't have that. That's Deck's health, obviously, but that could
be with any other quarterback in the National Football League.
So I get why Ceede Lamb is excited, and I
think we should be excited about Ceedee Lambs as a
top three wide receiver in fantasy this year.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
So let's get to those top five and a second ball,
let's here from CD himself. I tried to encapsulate it,
but never never as good as the man himself. How
does this wide receiver rang with us of the lague?

Speaker 7 (38:33):
I like us versus anybody. Honestly, where'sus anyone in any room?
I don't care what they be saying in the media.
I see it. I ignore it. Let's see other September.
I don't really do too much talk.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Give me a little bit more. I see it. I ignore it. Brother,
you know, I mean he could have gone like because
we're gonna use the sound bites. I mean they're basically
chilling as WWE superstars, and a lot of these especially
as they say hey, I can get the ball, but
off the top and Bengals defense continues to stink. So
long as Joe Burrow is upright, Jamar Chase is gonna

(39:09):
get fed. Right. We could just agree, set it and
forget it wrong Goo cemented number one in our sharpie pens,
and then we start looking at Jefferson Lamb Whoka, nakua.
Are you trusting that Matthew Stafford makes it a full seventeen? Maybe?
Maybe not. I don't know. Malik Neighbors is currently the

(39:30):
number five. We talked about the Giants quarterbacking room last night,
and not with too much positivity, but I look at it,
it's like you got chasing Jefferson. I would put Lamb
ahead of Jefferson because of the questions of McCarthy. Lamb
is growing up to number two today. I'll take Jefferson
at three and then four and five. We can debate
a little bit. If we weren't gonna jump on board

(39:52):
the train and I had Drake London, I just put
d l in my little list. Then I'll slide him
in as a price shot that if this breaks right,
and we'll hear from Michael Pennix about who he thinks,
because we'll talk tight ends later see if the old
fool me ones kind of the philosophy comes in. But
I'll take London fourth. And then there's a bunch of

(40:14):
disarray in Detroit, and I know the coordinator's gone and
everybody's looking at Ben Johnson andever he practice rep in Chicago.
But I'm on Ross Saint bron is still gonna get fed.
Yeah's still gonna be one hundred catch guy, dump the ball,
good things happen.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
So he's still number five for them, and they should
be able to protect Jared Goff which lows him to throw.
Despite the changes that went on, I have no problem
with that. I don't have those last two in my
top five. But I love the Falcons. I told you
I think that Pennix could be a top ten quarterback.
People have them around twenty four to twenty five. I
think that the Falcons are just going to be really
really good offensively almost said great, but really really good.

(40:50):
I put Brian Thomas for I put Ko Collins five.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
So you think the one hundred question quiz is going
to take Trevor Lawrence that.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I just don't know what else they have. I know,
like we expect Travis Hunter to have this role, but
Thomas was legit, much to my surprise. And then Nico
Collins just quickly, I just he's the guy, He's c
J Stroud's guy. They just have to.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Protect them, that's the bottom line. He's Dan Bayer in
for Jason. I'm Mike will continue more fantasy talk, more
across the football landscape as we roll on. Let's go
back to Cleveland because you got some interesting comments from
your
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