July 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Mike and Dan Beyer can't believe the number of QBs the Browns plan on keeping. Plus, our BIG takeaways from Bill Belichicks UNC/ACC press conference!
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Ratings and welcome in hour two of the program.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Cruising along here on a beautiful Thursday night, wherever however
you're listening. Thank you for being part of our extended family.
Go forth and evangelize like a pyramid scheme, grab your
friends and family and so on and so on.
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That's right, Well, water filters down, they'll get ten.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'll wait you out.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
You'll just sit home and collect checks and take pictures
by your car.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm not thinking about Arthur Art sitting in the kitchen
on the King of Queen.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'll wait until you got to take that pill.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Like like some, it's tough finding a job out of college,
so you're looking for work. I showed up at a
presentation once not knowing what that presentation was.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Oh my goodness, Mike.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It was.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
It was crazy and it was water filters.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It was so just like King of Queens, but I
experienced in real life and it was. It's still I
still remember like parts of it. They were trying to
They wanted me, you show up to this thing. They
wanted me to go on a trip with them the
next day to Saint Louis, Like like.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Like no way, Like it's not gonna happen. I know,
I'm twenty two and dumb, but like I'm not that dumb.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We all responded to those ads and found ourselves in
a room that you slinked out of five minutes.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
And we all know that those photo albums that had
that sticky clear page that would keep the photos in
but you could still were filled with pictures of people
standing by their cars and the checks.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
That they cashed. Like that was like there was their
special photo album. My goodness, I go. I know, I
get it, I understand.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I was. I don't even want to say I was foolish.
I was naive. I didn't understand.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, we're all looking for a job. We yeah, we're
about this. Just a couple of years apart of it.
Job market is rough.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Now depending on what you're trying to get into, and
back then it was it was a miserable experience. You're like, yeah,
we all want five years experience. I just graduated college.
What do you want from me? I did tasseled corn,
and I worked sorting frozen chicken, and I did some
filing in the financial aid world.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
My experience at the Highway fifty one truck stop in
north central Wisconsin was not going to help me get
a media job or a radio job at the time.
He needed that internship, he needed to do stuff, and
you also needed to make money. So that's what I
was looking to do after college. And I showed up
at a presentation. It was as bad as as you could.
(03:11):
Everything that they say about it, it's true. It's awful.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
You just felt filthy and then you went back to
that truck stop and you washed up.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
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the dude wipes guy. Again, very curious kind of thing there,
But they celebrate the all brown uniform.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
All that goes to it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
But we've been talking about the Browns from the quarterbacking
position and trying to figure out and read the tea leads.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Of what they go forward with this season.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Right, they draft Dylan Gabriel, They draft Shador Sanders, eventually
ending everybody's long nightmare. If you were covering the draft,
we were certainly on air watching it and chronicling it.
Here's another spot where there might be a quarterback, Nope,
moving on and eventually he ends up a Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Meanwhile, you've got two Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Champions on the roster, and you decide how much you
want to ascribe that value to the second guy. But
currently running with the ones the great Kenny Pickett and
Joe Flacco who won Comeback Player of the Year coming
off his couch and leading them to the playoffs a
couple of years ago. Now, a lot of debate as
to how good or poor the roster is. Certainly in
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a crowded AFC North, not a lot of room for
error in the six division games, that's for damn sure.
But we look at the quarterback position and the battle
through and trying to determine, well, how many of these
guys will actually stay right, and certainly the hype machine
go when it was seven on seven and we're in
off season training and oh, look at the deep ball.
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It's like, yeah, if he doesn't have someone planting his
ass in the ground, any quarterback except for Drew Brees.
Poor guy's got no arm left, as we saw in
the final year of his pro career, and now he
talks about it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
At this point. Everything's underhanded throws to his kids.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But except for him, everybody could throw the ball sixty
yards with a step through without waiting for someone to
take their knee out or plant them on their ass.
So take all that with a grain assault. But certainly
the hepe machine for Shador was out front and center
during some of those workouts in camp.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Eh, not so much.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And now you've got Andrew Berry step into the forefront, going, hey,
it's possibility that we come to camp out of camp
and go into the season with all four guys in
tow which is a bold strategy Cotton in a league
where you value every roster spot. Part of it maybe
thinking that long term Flacco or Picket have some value
you for a second or third day draft pick, depending
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on the desperation of a team that suffers an injury
and veteran presence to bring the other two guys along.
But all of it to say, it is a kind
of a curious situation. Let's let's hear from Andrew Berry
on the situation he's got with his QBS. Well, quarterbacks,
do you see a pathway to have four an opening
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day roster?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I do?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Is that in light of the asset that a quarterback.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Is, We've largely looked at the last five spots for
rosters more developmental spots, and that could come from any
any position. So if there are four that are fifty
three man worthy and we think it makes the most
sense for us to keep them, Google.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yah, fifty three worthy, those five are developmental. That might
be the first time I've ever really heard a GM
put it in those terms.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Sure, I'll tell you what Like, when you go down
to a roster and you look at how it's set,
you'll see beat writers predict the roster. It's kind of
like predicting the NCAA tournament teams. You're gonna get fifty
eight out of fifty nine just because of what it is.
It's the last eight or nine that you're not necessarily
sure about. And the Browns use their way of doing it.
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I think it's an interesting angle on how they do it.
I'm not sure how many other teams do it, but
I assume that it's more than the Cleveland Browns. I
think that the question, the way that it was asked,
not criticizing the reporter by any means, but gave Andrew
Berry a bit of an out. You can say, are
you going to keep? Is the plan to keep four quarterbacks?
It was do you see a pathway? Well, of course, yeah,
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it just may not be realistic. There may be ninety
nine other ones that only have three. I just you
mentioned earlier with the Jets and the Kirk Cousins photoshops
after the Justin Fields injury first broke.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
If you're the Browns.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Sitting there, aren't you kind of looking at the same
looking If so, there's something the opportunity, yes else around
there with either Flacco or Picket. You know, in that scenario.
The I just don't know how you would keep that.
Like the Seahawks, for example, are gonna have three quarterbacks
and Starnold lock in Jalen Milroe who the drafted. Well,
you can use mill Row in a lot of different spots.
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It'll be interesting to see how they do their roster.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But you get you gotta.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Put shudor Sanders on practice squad like like what like,
are you gonna put them on the fifty three?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Male?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I just it doesn't It doesn't make a lot of
sense to hold four, especially just considering the spot that
the Brons are in when some teams are only holding
over or holding on two to two quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Yeah, I think some of it plays to what we
were talking about a little bit last night in terms of,
you know, your public speaking points. As much as we
look at Mike Brown and Jerry Jones and shrug our
shoulders and going, really, we need to air all this out.
Maybe got a mouthpiece. It's early camp. You give us
some uh, you know, some scraps to go fight over
on the yard, right, But why upset the room at
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this point if you legitimately see a path not not
the pathway to the four guys, but the you're gonna
have a competition for as many reps as you can
because in another week's time that starts to funnel down, right,
and in terms of who's getting meaningful reps unless you're
meeting in the practice bubble after curfew.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
To run some routes and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But all of that to say yeah, we don't it's
kind of saying we don't know, But why upset the
room right where there's all these rumors and everybody looking
for any bit that they can run on. Shouldeur Sanders right?
Because in our media, in our media space, right, you've
got cheerleaders like to take it to the extreme. It's
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the lebron James. It could be the most innocuous comment possible,
but we're going to dissect it in voice inflection if
we have video of it. How was he sitting, did
his eyebrow raise? Who was he looking at? Did he
smirk it a guy as he was saying it. We
do all that, and anything we get about Shouldear Sanders
has been the same thing. How do we bring Dion's
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name into it? How do we talk about whatever it is? Nepotism, legacy, history,
does he get a fair shake? Is it because of
the family name?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Throw out?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
You know your your call sign and see where where
the bodies land in terms of, you know, the vote
of your audience in that moment, kind of like it's
a reality show where you have to survive to the
next week. But for Shugara Sanders, that's what you get, right,
it's grist for the mill. Dylan Gabriel just going to
work right, Nobody cares. Maybe he shows up, maybe he plays,
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maybe he doesn't. He's the fourth guy in this race,
even though he was drafted before Shadur. But it feels
like from a pr standpoint, I mean, there's gonna be
a lot of want If you're the Browns, they're selling
a lot of jerseys and whatever else. The worst thing
in the world would be the yeah, he's just not
good enough and we have to cut him. I mean,
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you'll have made some money, but it won't be the
cash cow and storyline that threads through. As for the veterans, Yeah,
you're waiting by the phone for every practice report from
Adam Schefter.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That makes it sound like getting amputated.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yeah, and that's that's considering that Joe Flacco led them
to the playoffs two years ago, and then they completely
botched his bringing back last year because they didn't want
the distraction. So now you bring him back and you
have a whole other distraction now with Shador Sanders. It
just is more of the same with the Cleveland Browns.
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And honestly, Mike, I know that the team is not
at fault for the Quinn Shawn Judkins situation. That doesn't
help this offseason. He paid Miles Garrett forty million dollars,
but the first part of the NFL offseason for the
Browns was how Miles Garrett wanted to play for all
these other teams because the Browns we weren't Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
They pay him forty million dollars. In his tune changes, oh.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
He said he they're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yes, Oh, we got a shot, Like everybody, come on,
there's check cleared.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Right when things are happening in the offseason, or things
are happening in the preseason going their way, maybe to
no fault of their own, it doesn't bode well for
the season. And this is a team that we're not
expecting a lot from. The Dylan Gabriel thing is interesting.
Mike because I'm wondering, does Dylan Gabriel like have to
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significantly outperform Shaud or Sanders in this scenario or is
it just Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski taking to what
you say. He's a third round pick, He's who they
invested in. The fifth round pick of Sanders. Sure seemed
to be an ownership call, but does Dylan Gabriel have
to do more? They're going to be must watch TV
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in the preseason. But the other thirty one teams you
may not care. But when the Browns play and you
watch those like, that's gonna be must watch TV. I
guarantee you and Jason will be talking about it shortly
after each night's games and how they're going to be.
They will be the mussy team of the preseason, which,
by the way, doesn't bode well for the regular season.
But that's no shocker when it comes to the Browns.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Well, number twelve in your fantasy wide receivers a year ago,
Jerry Judy had himself a nice big year.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Just throw it up and let him go make plays.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
He did. There's no more Jamis Winston there.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
And if Joe Flacco's not gonna play, you got Kenny
Pickett thrown to you. And if Kenny Pickett doesn't work out,
so you are gonna then go to Flaco.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Kenny Picket, now that he's gotten away from Pittsburgh, does
that change things? Can he be a different guy?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I think it's I think it's the Trubisky deal. And
I've told you this before. Trubisky when he went to Buffalo,
not talking about his bear's tenure, but when he went
to Buffalo, everybody thought he was fixed. He took like
six snaps in Buffalo. And so then he goes to
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Pittsburgh and tries to be the starter there and it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Work out, and we're surprised.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Like I kind of feel the same with Kenny Pickett
in Philadelphia a little bit. Maybe not exactly, but you
go Philadelphia, you're back up there.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Guess what you you went through? You went through the car.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Wash of another team and you came out and you
had that Steeler's stink off of you. If you will
not he's going to be a different quarterback, I would
bet not.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I just think the common denominator of how future that
Pittsburgh offense has been for so long that anytime a
guy gets a chance out there. It's like I wish
and hope that it was centralized and not every one
of these guys that was picked high as a bus.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Don't you think Pickett was taken by the Steelers because
they needed a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
He went to pitt He was in there, he was.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
In the backyard. They knew him better than anybody. Yeah,
all of those stuff. And again, you know, we talked
about it a little bit last night. Is I'll always
defend your right to make that pick, no matter how
insane it may be. In the end, y'all call, it
costs you your job eventually, so you know, hired to
be fired and make those big, bold proclamations. But for
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Andrew Berrying Company, makes for a fascinating precast. And I think,
just quickly with the Dylan Gabriel thing, Yeah he's gonna
have to grossly outperform sdor Sanders too big a story
the other way, I think.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, I think so as well. It could just and less. Again,
somebody gets hurt and then you move flac goo out
and then you can keep all that.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Then it suddenly fixes itself. We fix the glitch straight
out of office space, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
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Speaker 6 (17:27):
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Speaker 4 (17:29):
No, the question about it as we start doing the
point in the whole nine years and then Tyson just says,
we're doing in scene, all right. So one of the
stories coming out of all these media days it's been
kind of interesting is long rumored, Hey, the continued expansion
of certain conferences, right that it's the Big twenty eventually
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the Big twenty four whatever it becomes, and the SEC
the arms race for all the viable entities in the
college landscape. And what's circulating this week is the idea
that the SEC would add two new teams following the
twenty thirty season where the buyouts off the rights deals,
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you know, the givebacks, because that was a big hold
sticking point with some of these going back to the
Clemson and Florida State conversations of the last Wait, they'd
have to get back how much?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But now you have a conversation of North Carolina and
Clemson potentially as would be recruits to the SEC some years.
Hence now Bill Belichick, I think we would make the
assumption he won't be there at that point. But in
the interim they're enjoying a great run of salesmanship. We're
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going to have the TV show the on again, off
again thing.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
There.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Players are dismissing Belichick's personal relationship is having issue. Belichick
got talking about the players and what he thinks about
early college returns.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Hey, they've got fewer bad.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Habits that I got to break them out of, which
kind of funny because you think of, you know, some
of the guys that you go into free agency looking, hey,
we can get this guy on the cheap, and we
can see here here and hear how he's been trained
improperly by some of our cohorts. And then they chuckle
about bad organizations in the NFL. So you have all
of that. But for North Carolina football, at least for now,
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is a big deal. They've sold out their allotment for
all home games for this year. ESPN's got to televise
virtually every one of their games. But let's make no
mistake about it. UNC basketball is where the chip is
in terms of that dollar amount. As much as we
love our college football long term, I mean that's that's
a blue blood brand that like Coke, that doesn't change.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Sure, North Carolina's great.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
North Carolina is full university has been what we thought
was the apple of the eye of the Big ten.
That Jory felt that that if you're going to expand,
and it's been a battle of to conferences and who
was going to get North Carolina. And this is funny, Mike,
because it's just months after the ACC unveiled their new
revenue distribution plan that said, hey, if more people watch it,
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you're gonna get more money, which Clemson said.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
What novel concept? Right, Hey, we'll follow the money.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yes, it's not going to be as evenly split as
you would have hoped. And that was something that happened
in the lawsuits by Clemson and Florida State. It was
a part of that as well, in trying to get
more of a reason to stay, make me stay, make
me happy while I'm staying.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
And so now we're just a few months removed from
that and we already have a North Carolina to the SEC. Now,
my mind immediately goes four steps past that, because then
what are the other dominoes to fall? And you said
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Clemson too the SEC, So that what does that do
with Florida State? What does that do with Miami? What
does that do with Virginia? What does that do with
Virginia Tech. And really most interesting, what does that do
to Duke? What does that do to Duke? When you
talk about basketball? If North Carolina were to leave the ACC,
what would be done to the greatest rivalry in college basketball?
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No offense, Syracuse Georgetown, but it's North Carolina Duke, and well.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Big John and Jim ain't running those sidelines anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So I don't know how current national scale I didn't
you know, Jason Big Monday it works anymore.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
When you look at college basketball, it's North Carolina Duke.
And if North Carolina leaves the SEC, what happens to Duke?
Because Duke is not going to the SEC, that is
not going to be happening. Sure, and so there's you know,
NC State, it's a part of it as well. But
like so when I hear something like that of North
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Carolina to the SEC, because I think you could if
North Carolina went to the Big Ten, it's better news
for Maryland right now, Maryland's got another close arrival from
the old league past. You would have had that matchup
and rivalries would would take shape and they would change anyway.
But that seemed like much more of a fit. I'm
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surprised that North Carolina would go to the SEC, But
I'm more worried about the dominoes four.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
And five steps down the line if something like that
were to happen.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You mean, like when Texas State became part of the
PAC twelve and things of that nature. But it's always
the thing, like you know, me being the big ten
apologists that I've been ever since I started painting my
face purple in going to games and going to my
alma mater there in the larger Chicago area in beautiful Evanston.
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As they build their new stadium and everything else, always
that fear of relegation, particularly in an age where academics
doesn't have the same juice that it did even five
years ago, right where we might have laughed about it, Yeah,
guys going to school whatever, there were some sterious students
at every school, like it shouldn't have been dismissed categorically.
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But on the larger scale, as we started talking about
college football with multiple bees in the dollar amounts that
were being transacted for media rights, bowl systems and everything else,
then it changed the tone and tenor to where the
academic well, we need to have the strong academic school around,
even if they're smaller and only rise up once at
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a blue moon. Well, in the new world order, if
these guys are going to sign on here and we
start figuring out what the cap is for the right
size of a conference, well Northwestern could be one of
those teams that gets pushed off to the side and
all of a sudden it's Northwestern, Duke Cal and whoever
you're right right, the whatever, the you know, the inappropriate
(23:54):
I guess, uh non PC, redheaded stepchild of each of
those conferences. Suddenly they ban and together is the land
of misfit toys?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Is that what we're headed to?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Because I look at the logos of the current PAC
twelve conference and I just shake my head yeah as
to what they've reconstituted with of hey, what do you
got you in?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
And just even the ACC this past year where SMU
fared pretty well in their first first year in the
in the new league when it comes to college football,
but to have Cal and Stanford playing in that league
is just absurd. At some point, Mike, I think something's
got to change with that. But why North Carolina is
so interesting? We knew that Clemson and Florida State, for
college football reasons were probably the reason why we thought
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those schools would jump to the SEC.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Also their location.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
But North Carolina is in a spot where you could
be in Big Ten country, you could expand it. I
don't think the Big Ten would want to expand to
the state of South Carolina and bring Clemson, and that
was never a case Florida. I just I don't necessarily
see like a Florida state coming in in that scenario.
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But North Carolina was the one because again research school
as well great.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
For the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
North Carolina is the was the prized school really in
all of this, and who you'd want to bring in
And if there was any school outside of Notre Dame
that the Big Ten probably go after, it would be
North Carolina. So to have this report to say that
they're angling towards the SEC, I haven't seen a lot
of people follow up on it and say like, yeah,
this could be something, But then it would trigger a
(25:29):
lot and then you'd have to wonder what it would
trigger with the Big Twelve. So you know, what does
where does the Big Ten then look for other options
to try to expand. Granted there are two schools ahead
right now. Having an eighteen team school league as opposed
to sixteen with the SEC. But there's yeah, there would
be the three and four steps down the line, and
then yeah, what happens to all of those those NC
(25:50):
states in Virginia's and Big ten some yeah, but others
probably not.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But just think how quickly this all came to bear, right,
I was going through and you know how you get
the suggested for you on this date kind of thing,
whatever social media platform you're on, something you might have
posted years hence, Facebook, Instagram, whatever, and mine was you know,
it's like a five year anniversary to the restart of
Major League Baseball, is what we're at, like yesterday into today,
(26:20):
and in that time, how much has changed in the
landscape of what was once college sports. You grew up
watching and loving it and the rivalries and the pageantry
and the bomp and circumstance, and it's something that you
try to hold on to, Like we're talking about, you know,
the silly battles of territories and wrestling from our childhood.
(26:42):
And you know who ended up getting paired up and
how many you know, non television dates they did in
the territories, like yeah, they wrestled two hundred times, you know,
in dark matches, and then they showed up at a
pay per view, so it was well choreographed and whatever.
But they were rivalries and they built out on the
stage over time. We're trying to figure out new world orders, like, hey,
(27:03):
this coach moved there, does he have any tie to
any of those teams that we could create some sort
of chaos. Two And just as you start to settle
in on all right, here's the new world for this conference.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Just wait, it's gonna change.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Yeah, well, totally is.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
And here's here's the crazy thing about it, to instead
of looking ahead to maybe if North Carolina leaves for
the SEC, to look back and no matter what James
Franklin says, and I know we'll get to that at
some point. Looking back. I mentioned SMU look at Arizona State,
(27:38):
Look at Oregon, look at Texas. Texas may have been
where they were in the Big twelve, where they were
in the SEC because of.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
How good they were.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Oregon obviously would have been a contender in the Pac
twelve if that league would have stayed together. But Oregon
Ohio State thriller on a Saturday night in Eugene, taking
away the Rose Bowl game against Ohio State the second
time around on New Year's Day. That Saturday night game
was an absolute win the on NBC the network win,
(28:11):
Arizona State joins, a new league, goes from the bottom
to the top. Win, SMU joins. The ACC says, we
don't even want your money, we just want to be
in the league. Guess what you're playing at Penn State
in the first, you know, week out of the College
Football Playoff. For as much as we hate all of
this and are saying like this doesn't make sense, there
are points of success in every single league with the
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new additions.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
That we have had.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
So if your other schools in seeing that, geez, I
want what they have.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I want like that.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
So there's we can you know, the old school and
I'm literally talking to myself here, like I can get
playing all I want that col's playing a game at
Wake Forest or vice versa.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
But when you look at the schools that hit last.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Year, it's like four for four when you're talking about
those leagues and what actually was a success for the
new school.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
So now it becomes the all right, let's press our luck.
Would you like to push more? I mean, you mentioned
James Franklin. We'll talk about his big ten media. He
had a lot to say about a lot of things.
But they're in Las Vegas. So this is literally just
all right, just let it ride kind of thing. We
were four for four.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Let's see what the next iteration is.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And look, it's like building a farm system major League
Baseball or what you're trying to build in an organization
at your work of Like, all right, here's our best practices.
This has just gotta work. Right, It's all gonna work.
Like I look back to when the Cubs won the
World Series. Yeah, they had a couple of guys that
they brought from the outside, but a lot of it
(29:42):
was that homegrown guy.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
So it's gonna work forever.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I worked a year and then it blew up, and
maybe this will too. Maybe we see some normalization, particularly
as we look at money and the divides there. But
if we get some normalization with some of it, where's
the disincentive for any of it? Right when you're you're
out there and the dollars from the TV networks and
everything keeps flowing, to say, what do we lose if
(30:09):
we if we by trying. Yeah, at first we come
back to a conference that's struggling because they'll welcome us
back with open arms. Sure, if this doesn't work and
we you know, we it's a bad sandbox and we're
not welcomed in and it's a failure, we don't compete,
and after a year or two whatever, it's like a
(30:29):
you know, a thirty day trial on something.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Now I'd like to return this. It's going to change anyway.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
So it'll change again and again.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
So maybe maybe you just say, all right, let's let's
give it the old college try literally and if it fails, hey,
let's go back to the status quo.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Now, maybe it wouldn't have worked for Arizona State jumping
to the Big Ten, but like in the way that
alignment worked, I mean there was this success. Like look
at Oregon last year, you know the Ohio State win
that I mentioned, and just looking at their schedule they
won a tight game against Wisconsin.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
How much do you think they missed? I mean, they
still get to play Washington, they still get to play.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Us, still get a few of those teams that are yeah,
you don't have this.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You know, you had the Civil War in a non
conference game, so that was different.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
But I don't know if Oregon would go back, you
know so, especially when the monies are what they are. Yeah,
you know what your direction is, and you have the
recruiting tool that is the Big ten network and all
of the ancillary TV slots that are allotted the Big
Ten let alone what looks like will eventually get our
(31:29):
four automatic qualifiers from the conference. Yeah, I don't think
you're going back. No, and un ringing that bell. Be
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And now it's time to go over to Monsie Belognos. Well,
he is trying to push me.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Along into baseball directly. Guys. We got one game.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Going on Angels games at the start, but Seattle has
come back. Julia Rodriguez homwer to tie the game and
then ran Diatto Satay.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Now that was for you.
Speaker 11 (32:08):
Dan hit a two run shot and now Seattle is
up on the Angels three to one after six innings.
Seattle also making other moves ahead of the trade deadline.
Which is sept for a week from today, Thursday, July thirty, first,
at six Eastern. The Mariners have acquired first baseman Josh
Naylor from the Diamondbacks. The other games in baseball, while
the A's had a five to two win over the Astros,
(32:30):
the Cardinals defeated the Padres nine to seven. The Blue
Jays handed the Tigers another loss. Detroit is one to
ten in their last eleven games, as Toronto beat them
today eleven to four, and the Oils avoided the sweep
as they took down the Guardians four to three. You
know what else happens a week from today, guys?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Football?
Speaker 11 (32:46):
That's right, the Hall of Fame game between the Chargers
and the Lions. Football is pretty much here. The Raiders
are releasing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, just one year after
he signed a four year, one hundred and ten million
dollars deal. The team is avoiding his remaining guarantees. How
he's handled his foot injury rehab, and he has filed
eight agreements. Kansas men's basketball coach Bill Self was hospitalized
(33:07):
and underwent a heart procedure after feeling unwell and experiencing
concerning symptoms, but the procedure went well and he is
currently recovering back to you guys beautiful.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Thanks Moncy. I was thinking about it's like the thirty
first pay day. Yeah, no pay game.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Yeah, pay day is the next day.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yes, right the evening.
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It's different for different employees.
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Oh but around that time.
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It's around that time my first installment comes to no
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I owe the company money, so there, Yeah, that's a
different way round.
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Well you know, I mean like the EBB and flow
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Speaker 4 (34:48):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with me Mike Harmon. Here on a beautiful Thursday night,
heading George Friday morning. Maybe you're heading to the Fantastic Four.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
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You got memories of your wwe WWF childhood. You got
some cool stuff in the box you left in your parents'
basement that they forced back on you because.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
They're tired of your crap.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Let me know, let me see what those the paint
missing from your action figures look like maybe the old
wooden wrestling ring that you'd get slivers on, you know,
all of those.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Things, those action figures back in the day, the rings
that they would have for the wrestling thing.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, and then you have the thumb wrestlers. Yes, yeah,
yeah yeah, those those are great. So many others. I
was showing you some of the Newfound fangle ones. They're
not cheap, but they look pretty good, almost scary in
their likenesses.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Just like I was just gonna say, if hopefully in
thirty years, like dinosaurs are really like popular, because then
my son's going to have that's all over, that's all
over the floor, like I probably had Star Wars figurings
when I was younger.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
It's just straight dinosaurs right now. That's all. It is,
a big, little, tiny any size.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Everything old is new again. Yes, they'll still be making
more Jurassic Parts movies.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
See some Jurassic World whatever will be worth something in
thirty years.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
They're a lot of the box mike, but still.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That's all right, as long as they retain some of
their movement and paint, and if they have the electronic
chips to roar that those are still functions.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Hopefully so many thirty years from now will want a
Moses Saurus with three fins, because that's what's happening. That
happened one of them unfortunately broke off. But oh well,
what can you do?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I had a giant box of Star Wars toys. Ask
me what value they are?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Zero?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
You know I because if you lost the Lightsaber fight,
guess what you lost?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
An armor?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I had no harm and how it's all true. Boy,
we were problematic. I probably should have been seen by people. Anyway,
A guy who's going to be looking to see a
lot of people, and that is a group of lawyers,
maybe some of those that are off the highways here
in Los Angeles. But the Raiders release defensive tackle Christian Wilkins,
voiding thirty five point two million dollars in guaranteed money
(37:11):
over how he chose to rehab an injured foot sustained
last year fifth game of the season. Now, going back
to March of twenty four, let's take the larger picture,
four year deal, one hundred and ten million dollars, played
five games, hurt his foot, Liz Frank injury, and then
you have surgery you begin the rehab process. Still wasn't right.
(37:33):
As they were getting closer to camp, Raiders wanted him
to go through another surgery, didn't feel that he'd done
perhaps what was prescribed in terms of the rehabilitation. Weren't
happy with where he was. And then they released a
statement quote, we've decided it's our best interests and the
organization to move on from Christian Wilkins, and he's been
(37:54):
informed of his release from the team, the franchise as
and here it is commitment to excellence. The C and
the E capitalized on and off the field with no
clear path or plan for future return to play from Christian.
This transaction is necessary for the entire organization to move
forward and prepare for the new season. Just a couple
(38:15):
of days ago we had Jared Smith on he's out
in Las Vegas and looking and analyzing and look at
the Raiders as a perhaps with a little bit of
defensive prowess up front, led by Wilkins return whenever, that
would be that perhaps the front would be that much
better and more improved with some more free reign from
(38:37):
Max Crosby to recavoc Instead, it's a final Pete Carroll
it's been a difficult recovery, and he's done everything he
needs to do. He's been here every day, he's here
working hard. He's not ready to get back out. We're
in the midst of a long, challenging process. Fortunately there's
a lot of time. We're going to take every bit
of it to be really diligent about the way we work.
That was from May and now here we are at
(38:58):
the end of July and the tune has changed. He's
unavailable and now we'll get a giant fight, kind of
like we were talking about with the Cincinnati Bengals with
their first round pick and language about availability and how
you go through processes and you're holding up your end
of the bargain. I think this is gonna be a
great fight. But we'll see what from the player's side,
(39:18):
with all the turmoil they've got, who's actually ready to
pick up the torch?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yeah, maybe not much of a defense because there's nobody
there to defend him at this point. What I find
interesting is this is not any different from this situation's different,
But when Pete Carroll went to Seattle, lots of changeover,
lots of it, players circling in and out here and
there and everywhere, and so you're one with the Raiders,
(39:43):
John Spytech the new general manager. If it's not working,
move on and do what you have to do now.
Fighting for the money that he had over the disagreement
on how you rehab completely different story. But for a
guy he played five games last year and I was
having a foot injury enter this season, I'm not sure
how much value you were going to get in twenty
twenty five anyway. So if Pete Carroll's are in his
(40:05):
first year, he didn't bring in Christian Wilkins last year.
John Spytek didn't bring in Christian Wilkins last year. Why
do they care? They'll figure out a way it works
out for him, fine if not, but it's another way
of Pete Carroll putting his stamp on this team.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
They moved through a lot of players.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
And despite the disagreement, I'm sure they would have loved
to have had him healthy if he was on the field,
but he wasn't.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
And now you're going to have this battle. They have
no time for it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Move on.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
You got a lot of young players in the mix
and a lot of names that if you're really deep
into college football, you probably are like, all right, that
guy could play a little bit. That guy, but in
terms of established players alongside Max Crosby, it's pretty thin.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
I came up with an idea on Monday, and Christian
Wilkins can now be a part of it. I saw
a Raiders jersey in a storefront at a mall and
it was number two and it was Ashton genty obviously,
and I thought, gosh, is that JaMarcus Russell. I want
to build a store of just old bad jerseys or
(41:05):
jerseys of guys that they just didn't pan out, So
like the Raiders would have JaMarcus Russell, Antonio Brown, and
you could add Christian Wilkins. Don't laugh justin Frostburg because
there's a Ryan leaf one hanging at the Chargers. Trust me, Like,
I think those are gonna be so popular, wouldn't it be.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think you could sell yes.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
I just remember when Cutler was finally gone from Chicago.
I got a jersey for five dollars. He's dad on Mike.
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Go forth and evangelize like a pyramid scheme, grab your
friends and family and so on and so on.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
That's right, Well, water filters down, they'll get ten.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'll wait you out.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
You'll just sit home and collect checks and take pictures
by your car.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm not thinking about Arthur Art sitting in the kitchen
on the King of Queen.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'll wait until you got to take that pill.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Like like some, it's tough finding a job out of college,
so you're looking for work. I showed up at a
presentation once not knowing what that presentation was.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Oh my goodness, Mike.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It was.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
It was crazy and it was water filters.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It was so just like King of Queens, but I
experienced in real life and it was. It's still I
still remember like parts of it. They were trying to
They wanted me, you show up to this thing. They
wanted me to go on a trip with them the
next day to Saint Louis, Like like.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Like no way, Like it's not gonna happen. I know,
I'm twenty two and dumb, but like I'm not that dumb.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We all responded to those ads and found ourselves in
a room that you slinked out of five minutes.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
And we all know that those photo albums that had
that sticky clear page that would keep the photos in
but you could still were filled with pictures of people
standing by their cars and the checks.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
That they cashed. Like that was like there was their
special photo album. My goodness, I go. I know, I
get it, I understand.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I was. I don't even want to say I was foolish.
I was naive. I didn't understand.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, we're all looking for a job. We yeah, we're
about this. Just a couple of years apart of it.
Job market is rough.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Now depending on what you're trying to get into, and
back then it was it was a miserable experience. You're like, yeah,
we all want five years experience. I just graduated college.
What do you want from me? I did tasseled corn,
and I worked sorting frozen chicken, and I did some
filing in the financial aid world.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
My experience at the Highway fifty one truck stop in
north central Wisconsin was not going to help me get
a media job or a radio job at the time.
He needed that internship, he needed to do stuff, and
you also needed to make money. So that's what I
was looking to do after college. And I showed up
at a presentation. It was as bad as as you could.
(03:11):
Everything that they say about it, it's true. It's awful.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
You just felt filthy and then you went back to
that truck stop and you washed up.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
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(03:46):
the dude wipes guy. Again, very curious kind of thing there,
But they celebrate the all brown uniform.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
All that goes to it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
But we've been talking about the Browns from the quarterbacking
position and trying to figure out and read the tea leads.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Of what they go forward with this season.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Right, they draft Dylan Gabriel, They draft Shador Sanders, eventually
ending everybody's long nightmare. If you were covering the draft,
we were certainly on air watching it and chronicling it.
Here's another spot where there might be a quarterback, Nope,
moving on and eventually he ends up a Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Meanwhile, you've got two Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Champions on the roster, and you decide how much you
want to ascribe that value to the second guy. But
currently running with the ones the great Kenny Pickett and
Joe Flacco who won Comeback Player of the Year coming
off his couch and leading them to the playoffs a
couple of years ago. Now, a lot of debate as
to how good or poor the roster is. Certainly in
(04:44):
a crowded AFC North, not a lot of room for
error in the six division games, that's for damn sure.
But we look at the quarterback position and the battle
through and trying to determine, well, how many of these
guys will actually stay right, and certainly the hype machine
go when it was seven on seven and we're in
off season training and oh, look at the deep ball.
(05:05):
It's like, yeah, if he doesn't have someone planting his
ass in the ground, any quarterback except for Drew Brees.
Poor guy's got no arm left, as we saw in
the final year of his pro career, and now he
talks about it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
At this point. Everything's underhanded throws to his kids.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But except for him, everybody could throw the ball sixty
yards with a step through without waiting for someone to
take their knee out or plant them on their ass.
So take all that with a grain assault. But certainly
the hepe machine for Shador was out front and center
during some of those workouts in camp.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Eh, not so much.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And now you've got Andrew Berry step into the forefront, going, hey,
it's possibility that we come to camp out of camp
and go into the season with all four guys in
tow which is a bold strategy Cotton in a league
where you value every roster spot. Part of it maybe
thinking that long term Flacco or Picket have some value
you for a second or third day draft pick, depending
(06:03):
on the desperation of a team that suffers an injury
and veteran presence to bring the other two guys along.
But all of it to say, it is a kind
of a curious situation. Let's let's hear from Andrew Berry
on the situation he's got with his QBS. Well, quarterbacks,
do you see a pathway to have four an opening
(06:23):
day roster?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I do?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Is that in light of the asset that a quarterback.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Is, We've largely looked at the last five spots for
rosters more developmental spots, and that could come from any
any position. So if there are four that are fifty
three man worthy and we think it makes the most
sense for us to keep them, Google.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yah, fifty three worthy, those five are developmental. That might
be the first time I've ever really heard a GM
put it in those terms.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Sure, I'll tell you what Like, when you go down
to a roster and you look at how it's set,
you'll see beat writers predict the roster. It's kind of
like predicting the NCAA tournament teams. You're gonna get fifty
eight out of fifty nine just because of what it is.
It's the last eight or nine that you're not necessarily
sure about. And the Browns use their way of doing it.
(07:10):
I think it's an interesting angle on how they do it.
I'm not sure how many other teams do it, but
I assume that it's more than the Cleveland Browns. I
think that the question, the way that it was asked,
not criticizing the reporter by any means, but gave Andrew
Berry a bit of an out. You can say, are
you going to keep? Is the plan to keep four quarterbacks?
It was do you see a pathway? Well, of course, yeah,
(07:30):
it just may not be realistic. There may be ninety
nine other ones that only have three. I just you
mentioned earlier with the Jets and the Kirk Cousins photoshops
after the Justin Fields injury first broke.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
If you're the Browns.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Sitting there, aren't you kind of looking at the same
looking If so, there's something the opportunity, yes else around
there with either Flacco or Picket. You know, in that scenario.
The I just don't know how you would keep that.
Like the Seahawks, for example, are gonna have three quarterbacks
and Starnold lock in Jalen Milroe who the drafted. Well,
you can use mill Row in a lot of different spots.
(08:04):
It'll be interesting to see how they do their roster.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But you get you gotta.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Put shudor Sanders on practice squad like like what like,
are you gonna put them on the fifty three?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Male?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I just it doesn't It doesn't make a lot of
sense to hold four, especially just considering the spot that
the Brons are in when some teams are only holding
over or holding on two to two quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Yeah, I think some of it plays to what we
were talking about a little bit last night in terms of,
you know, your public speaking points. As much as we
look at Mike Brown and Jerry Jones and shrug our
shoulders and going, really, we need to air all this out.
Maybe got a mouthpiece. It's early camp. You give us
some uh, you know, some scraps to go fight over
on the yard, right, But why upset the room at
(08:49):
this point if you legitimately see a path not not
the pathway to the four guys, but the you're gonna
have a competition for as many reps as you can
because in another week's time that starts to funnel down, right,
and in terms of who's getting meaningful reps unless you're
meeting in the practice bubble after curfew.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
To run some routes and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But all of that to say yeah, we don't it's
kind of saying we don't know, But why upset the
room right where there's all these rumors and everybody looking
for any bit that they can run on. Shouldeur Sanders right?
Because in our media, in our media space, right, you've
got cheerleaders like to take it to the extreme. It's
(09:31):
the lebron James. It could be the most innocuous comment possible,
but we're going to dissect it in voice inflection if
we have video of it. How was he sitting, did
his eyebrow raise? Who was he looking at? Did he
smirk it a guy as he was saying it. We
do all that, and anything we get about Shouldear Sanders
has been the same thing. How do we bring Dion's
(09:54):
name into it? How do we talk about whatever it is? Nepotism, legacy, history,
does he get a fair shake? Is it because of
the family name?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Throw out?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
You know your your call sign and see where where
the bodies land in terms of, you know, the vote
of your audience in that moment, kind of like it's
a reality show where you have to survive to the
next week. But for Shugara Sanders, that's what you get, right,
it's grist for the mill. Dylan Gabriel just going to
work right, Nobody cares. Maybe he shows up, maybe he plays,
(10:26):
maybe he doesn't. He's the fourth guy in this race,
even though he was drafted before Shadur. But it feels
like from a pr standpoint, I mean, there's gonna be
a lot of want If you're the Browns, they're selling
a lot of jerseys and whatever else. The worst thing
in the world would be the yeah, he's just not
good enough and we have to cut him. I mean,
(10:47):
you'll have made some money, but it won't be the
cash cow and storyline that threads through. As for the veterans, Yeah,
you're waiting by the phone for every practice report from
Adam Schefter.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That makes it sound like getting amputated.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yeah, and that's that's considering that Joe Flacco led them
to the playoffs two years ago, and then they completely
botched his bringing back last year because they didn't want
the distraction. So now you bring him back and you
have a whole other distraction now with Shador Sanders. It
just is more of the same with the Cleveland Browns.
(11:23):
And honestly, Mike, I know that the team is not
at fault for the Quinn Shawn Judkins situation. That doesn't
help this offseason. He paid Miles Garrett forty million dollars,
but the first part of the NFL offseason for the
Browns was how Miles Garrett wanted to play for all
these other teams because the Browns we weren't Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
They pay him forty million dollars. In his tune changes, oh.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
He said he they're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yes, Oh, we got a shot, Like everybody, come on,
there's check cleared.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Right when things are happening in the offseason, or things
are happening in the preseason going their way, maybe to
no fault of their own, it doesn't bode well for
the season. And this is a team that we're not
expecting a lot from. The Dylan Gabriel thing is interesting.
Mike because I'm wondering, does Dylan Gabriel like have to
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significantly outperform Shaud or Sanders in this scenario or is
it just Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski taking to what
you say. He's a third round pick, He's who they
invested in. The fifth round pick of Sanders. Sure seemed
to be an ownership call, but does Dylan Gabriel have
to do more? They're going to be must watch TV
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in the preseason. But the other thirty one teams you
may not care. But when the Browns play and you
watch those like, that's gonna be must watch TV. I
guarantee you and Jason will be talking about it shortly
after each night's games and how they're going to be.
They will be the mussy team of the preseason, which,
by the way, doesn't bode well for the regular season.
But that's no shocker when it comes to the Browns.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Well, number twelve in your fantasy wide receivers a year ago,
Jerry Judy had himself a nice big year.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Just throw it up and let him go make plays.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
He did. There's no more Jamis Winston there.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
And if Joe Flacco's not gonna play, you got Kenny
Pickett thrown to you. And if Kenny Pickett doesn't work out,
so you are gonna then go to Flaco.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Kenny Picket, now that he's gotten away from Pittsburgh, does
that change things? Can he be a different guy?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I think it's I think it's the Trubisky deal. And
I've told you this before. Trubisky when he went to Buffalo,
not talking about his bear's tenure, but when he went
to Buffalo, everybody thought he was fixed. He took like
six snaps in Buffalo. And so then he goes to
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Pittsburgh and tries to be the starter there and it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Work out, and we're surprised.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Like I kind of feel the same with Kenny Pickett
in Philadelphia a little bit. Maybe not exactly, but you
go Philadelphia, you're back up there.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Guess what you you went through? You went through the car.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Wash of another team and you came out and you
had that Steeler's stink off of you. If you will
not he's going to be a different quarterback, I would
bet not.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I just think the common denominator of how future that
Pittsburgh offense has been for so long that anytime a
guy gets a chance out there. It's like I wish
and hope that it was centralized and not every one
of these guys that was picked high as a bus.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Don't you think Pickett was taken by the Steelers because
they needed a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
He went to pitt He was in there, he was.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
In the backyard. They knew him better than anybody. Yeah,
all of those stuff. And again, you know, we talked
about it a little bit last night. Is I'll always
defend your right to make that pick, no matter how
insane it may be. In the end, y'all call, it
costs you your job eventually, so you know, hired to
be fired and make those big, bold proclamations. But for
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Andrew Berrying Company, makes for a fascinating precast. And I think,
just quickly with the Dylan Gabriel thing, Yeah he's gonna
have to grossly outperform sdor Sanders too big a story
the other way, I think.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, I think so as well. It could just and less. Again,
somebody gets hurt and then you move flac goo out
and then you can keep all that.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Then it suddenly fixes itself. We fix the glitch straight
out of office space, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
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political correctness of the time.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
He was a hero to many.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
No, the question about it as we start doing the
point in the whole nine years and then Tyson just says,
we're doing in scene, all right. So one of the
stories coming out of all these media days it's been
kind of interesting is long rumored, Hey, the continued expansion
of certain conferences, right that it's the Big twenty eventually
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the Big twenty four whatever it becomes, and the SEC
the arms race for all the viable entities in the
college landscape. And what's circulating this week is the idea
that the SEC would add two new teams following the
twenty thirty season where the buyouts off the rights deals,
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you know, the givebacks, because that was a big hold
sticking point with some of these going back to the
Clemson and Florida State conversations of the last Wait, they'd
have to get back how much?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But now you have a conversation of North Carolina and
Clemson potentially as would be recruits to the SEC some years.
Hence now Bill Belichick, I think we would make the
assumption he won't be there at that point. But in
the interim they're enjoying a great run of salesmanship. We're
(18:47):
going to have the TV show the on again, off
again thing.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
There.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Players are dismissing Belichick's personal relationship is having issue. Belichick
got talking about the players and what he thinks about
early college returns.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Hey, they've got fewer bad.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Habits that I got to break them out of, which
kind of funny because you think of, you know, some
of the guys that you go into free agency looking, hey,
we can get this guy on the cheap, and we
can see here here and hear how he's been trained
improperly by some of our cohorts. And then they chuckle
about bad organizations in the NFL. So you have all
of that. But for North Carolina football, at least for now,
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is a big deal. They've sold out their allotment for
all home games for this year. ESPN's got to televise
virtually every one of their games. But let's make no
mistake about it. UNC basketball is where the chip is
in terms of that dollar amount. As much as we
love our college football long term, I mean that's that's
a blue blood brand that like Coke, that doesn't change.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Sure, North Carolina's great.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
North Carolina is full university has been what we thought
was the apple of the eye of the Big ten.
That Jory felt that that if you're going to expand,
and it's been a battle of to conferences and who
was going to get North Carolina. And this is funny, Mike,
because it's just months after the ACC unveiled their new
revenue distribution plan that said, hey, if more people watch it,
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you're gonna get more money, which Clemson said.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
What novel concept? Right, Hey, we'll follow the money.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yes, it's not going to be as evenly split as
you would have hoped. And that was something that happened
in the lawsuits by Clemson and Florida State. It was
a part of that as well, in trying to get
more of a reason to stay, make me stay, make
me happy while I'm staying.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
And so now we're just a few months removed from
that and we already have a North Carolina to the SEC. Now,
my mind immediately goes four steps past that, because then
what are the other dominoes to fall? And you said
(20:55):
Clemson too the SEC, So that what does that do
with Florida State? What does that do with Miami? What
does that do with Virginia? What does that do with
Virginia Tech. And really most interesting, what does that do
to Duke? What does that do to Duke? When you
talk about basketball? If North Carolina were to leave the ACC,
what would be done to the greatest rivalry in college basketball?
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No offense, Syracuse Georgetown, but it's North Carolina Duke, and well.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Big John and Jim ain't running those sidelines anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So I don't know how current national scale I didn't
you know, Jason Big Monday it works anymore.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
When you look at college basketball, it's North Carolina Duke.
And if North Carolina leaves the SEC, what happens to Duke?
Because Duke is not going to the SEC, that is
not going to be happening. Sure, and so there's you know,
NC State, it's a part of it as well. But
like so when I hear something like that of North
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Carolina to the SEC, because I think you could if
North Carolina went to the Big Ten, it's better news
for Maryland right now, Maryland's got another close arrival from
the old league past. You would have had that matchup
and rivalries would would take shape and they would change anyway.
But that seemed like much more of a fit. I'm
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surprised that North Carolina would go to the SEC, But
I'm more worried about the dominoes four.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
And five steps down the line if something like that
were to happen.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You mean, like when Texas State became part of the
PAC twelve and things of that nature. But it's always
the thing, like you know, me being the big ten
apologists that I've been ever since I started painting my
face purple in going to games and going to my
alma mater there in the larger Chicago area in beautiful Evanston.
(22:46):
As they build their new stadium and everything else, always
that fear of relegation, particularly in an age where academics
doesn't have the same juice that it did even five
years ago, right where we might have laughed about it, Yeah,
guys going to school whatever, there were some sterious students
at every school, like it shouldn't have been dismissed categorically.
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But on the larger scale, as we started talking about
college football with multiple bees in the dollar amounts that
were being transacted for media rights, bowl systems and everything else,
then it changed the tone and tenor to where the
academic well, we need to have the strong academic school around,
even if they're smaller and only rise up once at
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a blue moon. Well, in the new world order, if
these guys are going to sign on here and we
start figuring out what the cap is for the right
size of a conference, well Northwestern could be one of
those teams that gets pushed off to the side and
all of a sudden it's Northwestern, Duke Cal and whoever
you're right right, the whatever, the you know, the inappropriate
(23:54):
I guess, uh non PC, redheaded stepchild of each of
those conferences. Suddenly they ban and together is the land
of misfit toys?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Is that what we're headed to?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Because I look at the logos of the current PAC
twelve conference and I just shake my head yeah as
to what they've reconstituted with of hey, what do you
got you in?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
And just even the ACC this past year where SMU
fared pretty well in their first first year in the
in the new league when it comes to college football,
but to have Cal and Stanford playing in that league
is just absurd. At some point, Mike, I think something's
got to change with that. But why North Carolina is
so interesting? We knew that Clemson and Florida State, for
college football reasons were probably the reason why we thought
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those schools would jump to the SEC.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Also their location.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
But North Carolina is in a spot where you could
be in Big Ten country, you could expand it. I
don't think the Big Ten would want to expand to
the state of South Carolina and bring Clemson, and that
was never a case Florida. I just I don't necessarily
see like a Florida state coming in in that scenario.
(25:02):
But North Carolina was the one because again research school
as well great.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
For the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
North Carolina is the was the prized school really in
all of this, and who you'd want to bring in
And if there was any school outside of Notre Dame
that the Big Ten probably go after, it would be
North Carolina. So to have this report to say that
they're angling towards the SEC, I haven't seen a lot
of people follow up on it and say like, yeah,
this could be something, But then it would trigger a
(25:29):
lot and then you'd have to wonder what it would
trigger with the Big Twelve. So you know, what does
where does the Big Ten then look for other options
to try to expand. Granted there are two schools ahead
right now. Having an eighteen team school league as opposed
to sixteen with the SEC. But there's yeah, there would
be the three and four steps down the line, and
then yeah, what happens to all of those those NC
(25:50):
states in Virginia's and Big ten some yeah, but others
probably not.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But just think how quickly this all came to bear, right,
I was going through and you know how you get
the suggested for you on this date kind of thing,
whatever social media platform you're on, something you might have
posted years hence, Facebook, Instagram, whatever, and mine was you know,
it's like a five year anniversary to the restart of
Major League Baseball, is what we're at, like yesterday into today,
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and in that time, how much has changed in the
landscape of what was once college sports. You grew up
watching and loving it and the rivalries and the pageantry
and the bomp and circumstance, and it's something that you
try to hold on to, Like we're talking about, you know,
the silly battles of territories and wrestling from our childhood.
(26:42):
And you know who ended up getting paired up and
how many you know, non television dates they did in
the territories, like yeah, they wrestled two hundred times, you know,
in dark matches, and then they showed up at a
pay per view, so it was well choreographed and whatever.
But they were rivalries and they built out on the
stage over time. We're trying to figure out new world orders, like, hey,
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this coach moved there, does he have any tie to
any of those teams that we could create some sort
of chaos. Two And just as you start to settle
in on all right, here's the new world for this conference.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Just wait, it's gonna change.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Yeah, well, totally is.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
And here's here's the crazy thing about it, to instead
of looking ahead to maybe if North Carolina leaves for
the SEC, to look back and no matter what James
Franklin says, and I know we'll get to that at
some point. Looking back. I mentioned SMU look at Arizona State,
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Look at Oregon, look at Texas. Texas may have been
where they were in the Big twelve, where they were
in the SEC because of.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
How good they were.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Oregon obviously would have been a contender in the Pac
twelve if that league would have stayed together. But Oregon
Ohio State thriller on a Saturday night in Eugene, taking
away the Rose Bowl game against Ohio State the second
time around on New Year's Day. That Saturday night game
was an absolute win the on NBC the network win,
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Arizona State joins, a new league, goes from the bottom
to the top. Win, SMU joins. The ACC says, we
don't even want your money, we just want to be
in the league. Guess what you're playing at Penn State
in the first, you know, week out of the College
Football Playoff. For as much as we hate all of
this and are saying like this doesn't make sense, there
are points of success in every single league with the
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new additions.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
That we have had.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
So if your other schools in seeing that, geez, I
want what they have.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I want like that.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
So there's we can you know, the old school and
I'm literally talking to myself here, like I can get
playing all I want that col's playing a game at
Wake Forest or vice versa.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
But when you look at the schools that hit last.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Year, it's like four for four when you're talking about
those leagues and what actually was a success for the
new school.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
So now it becomes the all right, let's press our luck.
Would you like to push more? I mean, you mentioned
James Franklin. We'll talk about his big ten media. He
had a lot to say about a lot of things.
But they're in Las Vegas. So this is literally just
all right, just let it ride kind of thing. We
were four for four.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Let's see what the next iteration is.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And look, it's like building a farm system major League
Baseball or what you're trying to build in an organization
at your work of Like, all right, here's our best practices.
This has just gotta work. Right, It's all gonna work.
Like I look back to when the Cubs won the
World Series. Yeah, they had a couple of guys that
they brought from the outside, but a lot of it
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was that homegrown guy.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
So it's gonna work forever.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I worked a year and then it blew up, and
maybe this will too. Maybe we see some normalization, particularly
as we look at money and the divides there. But
if we get some normalization with some of it, where's
the disincentive for any of it? Right when you're you're
out there and the dollars from the TV networks and
everything keeps flowing, to say, what do we lose if
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we if we by trying. Yeah, at first we come
back to a conference that's struggling because they'll welcome us
back with open arms. Sure, if this doesn't work and
we you know, we it's a bad sandbox and we're
not welcomed in and it's a failure, we don't compete,
and after a year or two whatever, it's like a
(30:29):
you know, a thirty day trial on something.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Now I'd like to return this. It's going to change anyway.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
So it'll change again and again.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
So maybe maybe you just say, all right, let's let's
give it the old college try literally and if it fails, hey,
let's go back to the status quo.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Now, maybe it wouldn't have worked for Arizona State jumping
to the Big Ten, but like in the way that
alignment worked, I mean there was this success. Like look
at Oregon last year, you know the Ohio State win
that I mentioned, and just looking at their schedule they
won a tight game against Wisconsin.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
How much do you think they missed? I mean, they
still get to play Washington, they still get to play.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Us, still get a few of those teams that are yeah,
you don't have this.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
You know, you had the Civil War in a non
conference game, so that was different.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
But I don't know if Oregon would go back, you
know so, especially when the monies are what they are. Yeah,
you know what your direction is, and you have the
recruiting tool that is the Big ten network and all
of the ancillary TV slots that are allotted the Big
Ten let alone what looks like will eventually get our
(31:29):
four automatic qualifiers from the conference. Yeah, I don't think
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And now it's time to go over to Monsie Belognos. Well,
he is trying to push me.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Along into baseball directly. Guys. We got one game.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Going on Angels games at the start, but Seattle has
come back. Julia Rodriguez homwer to tie the game and
then ran Diatto Satay.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Now that was for you.
Speaker 11 (32:08):
Dan hit a two run shot and now Seattle is
up on the Angels three to one after six innings.
Seattle also making other moves ahead of the trade deadline.
Which is sept for a week from today, Thursday, July thirty, first,
at six Eastern. The Mariners have acquired first baseman Josh
Naylor from the Diamondbacks. The other games in baseball, while
the A's had a five to two win over the Astros,
(32:30):
the Cardinals defeated the Padres nine to seven. The Blue
Jays handed the Tigers another loss. Detroit is one to
ten in their last eleven games, as Toronto beat them
today eleven to four, and the Oils avoided the sweep
as they took down the Guardians four to three. You
know what else happens a week from today, guys?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Football?
Speaker 11 (32:46):
That's right, the Hall of Fame game between the Chargers
and the Lions. Football is pretty much here. The Raiders
are releasing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, just one year after
he signed a four year, one hundred and ten million
dollars deal. The team is avoiding his remaining guarantees. How
he's handled his foot injury rehab, and he has filed
eight agreements. Kansas men's basketball coach Bill Self was hospitalized
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and underwent a heart procedure after feeling unwell and experiencing
concerning symptoms, but the procedure went well and he is
currently recovering back to you guys beautiful.
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Thanks Moncy. I was thinking about it's like the thirty
first pay day. Yeah, no pay game.
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Yeah, pay day is the next day.
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Yes, right the evening.
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It's different for different employees.
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Oh but around that time.
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It's around that time my first installment comes to no
at Manzy Belanias is where you find her.
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Hey, Right after the show, the podcast goes up.
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I owe the company money, so there, Yeah, that's a
different way round.
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Well you know, I mean like the EBB and flow
paid pay to play and show your own ads.
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I don't know.
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you're now asking a union that has no leadership to
fight for you.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Good luck.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
But there will still be lawyers and lawyering they will do.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
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Speaker 4 (34:48):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with me Mike Harmon. Here on a beautiful Thursday night,
heading George Friday morning. Maybe you're heading to the Fantastic Four.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I don't know. Don't spoil it for me.
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Tell me how it was at Fox Sports Radio at
Swollen Dome.
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Speaker 4 (35:05):
You got memories of your wwe WWF childhood. You got
some cool stuff in the box you left in your parents'
basement that they forced back on you because.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
They're tired of your crap.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Let me know, let me see what those the paint
missing from your action figures look like maybe the old
wooden wrestling ring that you'd get slivers on, you know,
all of those.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Things, those action figures back in the day, the rings
that they would have for the wrestling thing.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, and then you have the thumb wrestlers. Yes, yeah,
yeah yeah, those those are great. So many others. I
was showing you some of the Newfound fangle ones. They're
not cheap, but they look pretty good, almost scary in
their likenesses.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Just like I was just gonna say, if hopefully in
thirty years, like dinosaurs are really like popular, because then
my son's going to have that's all over, that's all
over the floor, like I probably had Star Wars figurings
when I was younger.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
It's just straight dinosaurs right now. That's all. It is,
a big, little, tiny any size.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Everything old is new again. Yes, they'll still be making
more Jurassic Parts movies.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
See some Jurassic World whatever will be worth something in
thirty years.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
They're a lot of the box mike, but still.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That's all right, as long as they retain some of
their movement and paint, and if they have the electronic
chips to roar that those are still functions.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Hopefully so many thirty years from now will want a
Moses Saurus with three fins, because that's what's happening. That
happened one of them unfortunately broke off. But oh well,
what can you do?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I had a giant box of Star Wars toys. Ask
me what value they are?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Zero?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
You know I because if you lost the Lightsaber fight,
guess what you lost?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
An armor?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I had no harm and how it's all true. Boy,
we were problematic. I probably should have been seen by people. Anyway,
A guy who's going to be looking to see a
lot of people, and that is a group of lawyers,
maybe some of those that are off the highways here
in Los Angeles. But the Raiders release defensive tackle Christian Wilkins,
voiding thirty five point two million dollars in guaranteed money
(37:11):
over how he chose to rehab an injured foot sustained
last year fifth game of the season. Now, going back
to March of twenty four, let's take the larger picture,
four year deal, one hundred and ten million dollars, played
five games, hurt his foot, Liz Frank injury, and then
you have surgery you begin the rehab process. Still wasn't right.
(37:33):
As they were getting closer to camp, Raiders wanted him
to go through another surgery, didn't feel that he'd done
perhaps what was prescribed in terms of the rehabilitation. Weren't
happy with where he was. And then they released a
statement quote, we've decided it's our best interests and the
organization to move on from Christian Wilkins, and he's been
(37:54):
informed of his release from the team, the franchise as
and here it is commitment to excellence. The C and
the E capitalized on and off the field with no
clear path or plan for future return to play from Christian.
This transaction is necessary for the entire organization to move
forward and prepare for the new season. Just a couple
(38:15):
of days ago we had Jared Smith on he's out
in Las Vegas and looking and analyzing and look at
the Raiders as a perhaps with a little bit of
defensive prowess up front, led by Wilkins return whenever, that
would be that perhaps the front would be that much
better and more improved with some more free reign from
(38:37):
Max Crosby to recavoc Instead, it's a final Pete Carroll
it's been a difficult recovery, and he's done everything he
needs to do. He's been here every day, he's here
working hard. He's not ready to get back out. We're
in the midst of a long, challenging process. Fortunately there's
a lot of time. We're going to take every bit
of it to be really diligent about the way we work.
That was from May and now here we are at
(38:58):
the end of July and the tune has changed. He's
unavailable and now we'll get a giant fight, kind of
like we were talking about with the Cincinnati Bengals with
their first round pick and language about availability and how
you go through processes and you're holding up your end
of the bargain. I think this is gonna be a
great fight. But we'll see what from the player's side,
(39:18):
with all the turmoil they've got, who's actually ready to
pick up the torch?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yeah, maybe not much of a defense because there's nobody
there to defend him at this point. What I find
interesting is this is not any different from this situation's different,
But when Pete Carroll went to Seattle, lots of changeover,
lots of it, players circling in and out here and
there and everywhere, and so you're one with the Raiders,
(39:43):
John Spytech the new general manager. If it's not working,
move on and do what you have to do now.
Fighting for the money that he had over the disagreement
on how you rehab completely different story. But for a
guy he played five games last year and I was
having a foot injury enter this season, I'm not sure
how much value you were going to get in twenty
twenty five anyway. So if Pete Carroll's are in his
(40:05):
first year, he didn't bring in Christian Wilkins last year.
John Spytek didn't bring in Christian Wilkins last year. Why
do they care? They'll figure out a way it works
out for him, fine if not, but it's another way
of Pete Carroll putting his stamp on this team.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
They moved through a lot of players.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
And despite the disagreement, I'm sure they would have loved
to have had him healthy if he was on the field,
but he wasn't.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
And now you're going to have this battle. They have
no time for it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Move on.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
You got a lot of young players in the mix
and a lot of names that if you're really deep
into college football, you probably are like, all right, that
guy could play a little bit. That guy, but in
terms of established players alongside Max Crosby, it's pretty thin.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
I came up with an idea on Monday, and Christian
Wilkins can now be a part of it. I saw
a Raiders jersey in a storefront at a mall and
it was number two and it was Ashton genty obviously,
and I thought, gosh, is that JaMarcus Russell. I want
to build a store of just old bad jerseys or
(41:05):
jerseys of guys that they just didn't pan out, So
like the Raiders would have JaMarcus Russell, Antonio Brown, and
you could add Christian Wilkins. Don't laugh justin Frostburg because
there's a Ryan leaf one hanging at the Chargers. Trust me, Like,
I think those are gonna be so popular, wouldn't it be.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think you could sell yes.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
I just remember when Cutler was finally gone from Chicago.
I got a jersey for five dollars. He's dad on Mike.
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