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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome in final hour of the program Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. Here Fox Sports Radio already, span
you're in for Jason Smith tonight. Yes, let's go, and
I think we've gotten on some straight paths now and again.
It's long and winding road getting us to this point,
final hour of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Keep up? What'd you keep up?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Look? Man, this is just another four hour sprint for me.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's like we talked about building into marathon form with
those twenty six point two miles.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
We do this every damn night.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
For you, it's a little bit of a stretch. Now
we're working you a bit over time.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Bonus hour of the show in your mind, in my mind,
maybe they pay you overtime. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
For me.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Time our four get those fours.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Up, just like the Four Horsemen, and just like the
Fantastic Four, and their press offs were starting to co
opt that before arn Anderson said, no, that is ours.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Who do you think you are? Pedro Pascal?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You saw Happy Goodmore too though?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Today?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, I watched that a little bit late night into
this morning.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah when you told me you saw that, am I
the only person on the planet that I'm like? Did
he go to the movie theater twice? Or did he
just see a double feature? I did not know it
was released on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, big deal.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Happy Madison Productions with Netflix for several.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Movies, had no idea.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
So yeah, it's the.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
New World Order.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And you know I had Alex and I got him
up to speed on what Netflix stock has done over
the last couple of years, some of the booming business
as you transition from the old brick and mortar.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I don't have to watch it. I have to check
how is Dan Patrick? Was he good or what he got.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
The job done?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He's good, He's Dan Patrick. That's what he does. He
had a mustache spoiler alert.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
You know that's not like your ringing endorsement of his
acting ability.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He's a sports talk radio host. So he was essentially
an anchor, which is been his job. It wasn't that
much of a stretch. So yes, he was good.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I like at him.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I like at him Sam where if I get if
I was really famous in a movie star, I could
see him and I being friends, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Seems like a regular guy, right, I mean, like that's
that's the thing that always comes through. There's a few
of those guys that that break through. I've read so
many reports of the kindness of like a Keyatu Eaves
through the years and I like him too, and every
man kind of thing. He's got a new new album. Uh,
well he's got that too with dog Star his band.
But also movie coming out where he plays an angel
(03:13):
or something. No, well that's coming eventually, but he plays
an angel in in kind of like not necessarily a
rom com, but along those lines.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I saw a quick teaser trailer for that. But he's
a guy that there's plenty of stories of. He happens
to be in a hotel where there's a wedding going
on and they're like, oh, you should come, and he
goes up and changes into a suit and then.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Goes to the wedding.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Just craziness like that with Adam Sandler, same kind of thing,
you know, pickup games all across Los Angeles, New York, wherever.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
New Jersey there was.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
There was just a video of him playing pick up
all in New Jersey out there.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So yeah, I have those kind of stories that go through. Look,
there's a lot of cameos. A couple of wrestlers make
their way into the mix. Uh, Haley, Joel Osmon makes
his way in. Uh, it's it's well done. Christopher McDonald's
always everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But any making makes his way in.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know, a lot of real life golfers, you know,
one of the stars of the show, Scotty Scheffler.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
No, no, no, but a guy that we've talked about a lot,
right in terms of his mentality and what gets him
into his happy space. Not to steal too much from
Happy Gilmour and what his tricks of the trade were,
going back to the first movie. But you know, for
Scotty Scheffler and for some of these other golfers, you
get to see a little different side of them. Roy
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McElroy and some others that have more extended appearances John Daly,
who's done a bunch of press around this.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He was great.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So, I mean, you get some great performances.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Sandler is always strong and anytime Julie Bowen gets back
in the mix with like herr.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, I like her.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
But by the way, you know, I'm kind of working
on the Arnie Spaniers show.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You know about that, right.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, I know you've been teasing it. It's kind of
like you've been moving for six or seven years.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And what else.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You've threatened to quit or whatever for a long time.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
The TV show, which is pretty much written about me,
has gotten to the point now where it's being.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Trying to be.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Sold to networks and matter of facts involved with the
with the project now too.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
We didn't invite us in.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
But yeah, well we'll see if it gets sold. But
it's close, you know, it's it's been written. I read
the pilot. It was very good. So, uh, we'll see what.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Happens involved, But you don't call your old pal harmon ij.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Wasn't up to me. I'm barely involved myself. I probably
won't even get any money from this. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Tell you, it was a good run. Hosting with you.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
At Sticking Genius one is where you find him in
the Twitter verse. Find me over at Swollen Dome. Hear
him Sunday nights alongside Chris Blank. Chris Blank will also
follow us. Yeah, some fifty five minutes from now across
the Greater Fox Sports Radio Network. Keeping locked in as
we finished into the wee hours of the morning, I
want to go to a college football story. This is
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one that you sent on I want to think legal Pad,
page nine or whatever it was. But they had a
question last year, allegations of an improper advantage last year
in a victory over Memphis. Now you've got some questions.
Direct messages between former Tigers defensive tackle Taj Ryle and
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Texas San Antonio quarterback Owen McCown started to surface, the
question of the defensive game plan having been leaked by
the former Memphis defensive back prior to the two teams
meeting in early November, a game that the.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Road Warriors Road Warriors.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
See wrestling still on the mind, road Runners, I'll go
back to my comedic and cartoon world. The road Runners
won forty four thirty six screenshots were published on on three.
Going back, and here's the different coverages that might be deployed.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
As much as utsay is going to deny it, whether
it's the coaches or the quarterback or whatever, or where
they say that the team was did not see this one.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Let's let's just start there. Two, Mike, isn't there like
in baseball where there's unwritten rules, isn't there an unwritten
rule that even when you leave the team, you don't
do something like that. I mean that that just goes
against all good faith when you're a teammate like that
and all of a sudden you're no longer with the team. Now,
if you're playing against him and your new team and
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the coach comes up to you and said, hey, help
us out with a game plan, by all means everything's
good to go. But when you're a former player, you
just go ahead and send screenshots of the playbook to
the other team just to be a jackass.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I don't know. I got a big problem with that, Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think ed Ryle he went from Old Dominion into
Memphis and now he's transferred, and I think you're one
hundred percent on right there.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
There's a thing I don't like. My hundred coaches. Right,
I don't like, but.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I'm screwing over my teammates and now I'm a bad teammates.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Does this happen a lot too?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I got to imagine it happens far more frequently than
we could ever ever know.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And then I think that way would ever want to know?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Right, it's all down the paper trails.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, right, and someone being.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Just you know, dissatisfied. Right, It's like relationships. Everything can
be great in between you and and whoever, right, professional, personal,
and it's all find and good, and then it goes
south and doesn't know all your stuff is laid bare.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's another unwritten rule.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
It's like, if you go out with my ex and
I call you up, but I go, let me tell
you all the bad things. You don't do something like that.
You're not dating or anymore. She moved on, you move on.
You don't call up the new boyfriend to go, hey,
let me tell you all the bad things about her.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Well, if you know the new boyfriend, and maybe the
boyfriend you don't go it and you do like that,
you might just be trying to tip him off. You
might not be trying to sabotage. You might be trying
to protect him and just say, hey.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Even if the defensive back knew the quarterback for Texas
San Antonio, you don't send the plays over like that
because you got a beef against your former team and
you want to see them lose. You know, what does
that say about your character?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And if I.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Found this out and I was a coach of a
team that was maybe recruiting you, I certainly think twice going, hey,
if he's doing that, now what happens If he doesn't
like Gustind he leaves? Is he gonna do the same
thing to us? I don't like his bad optics here.
It's not something you should be doing.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I think if I'm bury Otam and I'm the crew
at Purdue, I'm looking and go how much eligibility he
got left?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Is he gonna transfer again?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Remember remember Greg Brady left the playbook out and he
apologized because it was it was a phony playbook. And
then the guy goes, I didn't take it, but it
was a phony playbook.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Greg tried to tell him but didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And then he once he was no longer a player
and he was a photographer. Remember, he had the greatest
shots right now because he had that shot. Look, he
was in bounce on that play. I'm telling you one
of one of the most laughable things ever. There's no fans,
there's no player within ninety yards of the receiver, and
all that other stuff. Mom always said not to play
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ball in the house. Mom never actually really said that,
but you know that was the what was the unwritten.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Unwritten rules?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No question, No, this just just smacks of, you know,
being a bad teammate. Uh well, no matter how salty
you are, right right, People make mistakes. People have their
their moments where I'm sure you've said some things.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know, when.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
What do you do around the house. You basically admitted
to doing nothing for all these years? Yeah, trading, but
but I mean there's got to be something where, you know,
you raised your voice and got a lot of sorts.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I mean, you didn't get the right pie delivered to
your plate. You don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
My wife's always the one that is gonna write a
you know, a review and rip this.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I go.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Look, we're not in the vindictive business. That's not what
our job is is to be vindictive because something didn't
go your way, and now you want to go ahead
and take it out on somebody else, like, oh, that's
not what we do, and that's that's not you do
that on air salt.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, four hours a night, gotta do Yeah, you're right,
exactly right. Try to tell me and tell me that
that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Maybe maybe you're not the one to do the Yelp
review or or maybe short change you don't eat tip
even if you didn't like the service.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Mike, this is Memphis and University of Texas, San Antonio.
Could you imagine if this was like Alabama and Georgia,
this would be front page headline. We'd be talking about
this for four hours, not only us, and the next
show and the next show and everybody in the South
and find bomb and everything.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It'd be like it'd be bigger than the NFL.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
That's is the fact that it's Memphis and UTSA. We
just kind of overlook it. But if it was an
Ohio state, a Michigan in Alabama, a Georgia, a big
school like that, people would be losing.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Their minds over something like this. I promise you no.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And that's but this is the cautionary tale, right, There's
always gotta be one that leads the way and conversations
and maybe all of a sudden there becomes a little
bit of scuttle But well, I remember this guy when
he left saying this or whatever. And in this case,
you just happen to have old team. Uh, and a
preponderance of evidence comes up? What if there's not so
(12:35):
clear a paper trail? Well, and if they I mean,
there's sure plenty of rumors, right, like we always talk.
We got the Connor Stallions thing right still sitting out there,
he was signing trading cards for a company, mocking the
situation a couple of months ago.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Could you imagine if somebody left to Ohio State and
then said, you know what, I'm gonna fix you up.
I'm gonna call Michigan and leak all your plays. Oh
my good, you'd have to. There'd be death threats involved
over something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You know that, right? You understand that.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
No, But that's the thing is that you know, I
I don't have any evidence to the contrary that that
this hasn't happened before.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh right, I mean that's right.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Like there's I'm sure there's plenty of instances.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
And if you start going up and down school to school,
I'm sure you know the coach, fornight coaches that are
salty and have left, Uh they don't like this particular coach,
rivals and all of those kind of things. Yeah, I
have no doubt that there's plenty of that. Uh if
if you really go down into the deep dives of.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
This, people are vindictive. That's what it's about.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I just in this situation, I think it's un written
rule where if you leave a school and your and
your new team is playing that team, that's fine. Then
you tell the coaches, hey, this is everything I know.
But you don't call up just a random school that
you're not involved with and say, hey, this is how
you beat that. And they, by the way, they won
the game Texas San Antonio one. I think it was
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forty four thirty six or something, So obviously something must
have helped there.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
They just played a good game.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Well every once in a while, the convergence, but you know,
the preponderance of evidence would say, hey, we might have
ourselves a whole other issue going on in terms of
this prot I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It happens in the NFL a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You know, No, but that's the thing, right, I Mean,
people change teams, change hands all the time.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Right, you try to keep your.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Your physical playbooks like what'suput a time, it was easy
because it was all physical playbooks. Now we're talking about
the digital copies, right right, So much easier.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
To screenshot, send a file.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean not that you couldn't take a picture with
your phone low these many years and do all that,
or go back to the Greg Brady and develop your
own photos of said playbook.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
How about advantage do you think you get for that?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
By the way, if you're if you let's say you
wore the quarterback of UTSA and you saw their defensive
schemes and all that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
How much did that help you win the game? What
do you think?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, it's enough that you're well, But it's enough if
the margin of error is three plays. Guess what if
you're better on three plays in this particular case, the one.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Touring game, right forty four thirty six? I believe it was, yeah, forty.
So there you go, margin victory different, Jie.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
There you go at stick a genius one where you
find him find me over at Swollen Dome. Coming up next,
we dike our turn to the NBA. No, you already
got your lebron James. I'm going to go to another
superstar Chew and his mouth beasts and saying, hey, we're
all underpaid.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
What the hell?
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Speaker 3 (18:00):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me,
Mike Carmon, Arnie Span. You're in for Jason Smith to night.
Thanks to Dan Bayer, Jared Smith, Chris Plank for their
four hours of effort and sweat equity each of these
last nights.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
This while you had everybody filling in, and.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Then next Monday and Tuesday, our guy Rich Hornberg. I
love Richard Ritchie's show up for a couple of days,
not like Richie the in the bear who showed up
as the thing in Fantastic four spoiler alert and all
of those fun, fun things, but Yeah, just a gadvlcade
of stars before Smith returns next Wednesday, and then I
(18:44):
think I might reward him by just taking the night
off to screw with him.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Just go ahead, take the rest of the week off.
Go ahead, you deserve it. Just like you.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You love to arbitrarily decide who's in and out in
your own little chess board. It's an interesting piece of fiction.
Chris Plank, who was with me on Monday, he'll join
us here on Fox Sport Radio right as we get
off the air in about thirty five minutes from now,
so keep it tuned in for the Blank Show. One
of the stories that caught my eye that's been developing
(19:13):
over the course of the night. Steph Curry, one of
your league superstars most widely recognized figures. He's got a
deal with a guy that he does these cool custom.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Cards and art cards and signs. But whatever, it's all cool.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
He also makes a lot of money, roughly sixty million
dollars this coming season. He did an interview with Complex's
Speedy Mormon, kind of talking about a bunch of things
around the league and some of the new deals that
have been Brokeer Shay Gilgus Alexander che Holmgren, among others,
and he started talking about the larger prospect of NBA
(19:50):
players and how well they might be underpaid. It's like, wait,
wait what, Yeah, I think because of the way the
CBA is structured right now, we can't participate. And that's
a big deal because it is a partnership with ownership.
It's a partnership with the league, and we're on the
short term of that revenue. Those numbers sound crazy, but
what the league is doing, from whatever you want to
(20:12):
compare it to, is probably ten x. That The idea
that we can't participate in equity while we're playing is
part of why I would say, yes, we're underpaid, because
we want to be able to participate in that rise.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Okay, let's talk about this for a minute.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Jeez, that's so toned up. It's not even funny.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It's it's the curiosity, right, They get fifty percent of
what comes in. But that's the point, right, is you
get fifty percent of what it is. Now, what he's
saying is if I'm with a team, And this is
also because I think maybe the subplot for him is
I'm a lifer, I'm invested in this city, this community,
et cetera. So I should have equity because if you
(20:54):
talk about it from a league as a whole, the
way guys bounce right.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know your guy.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Lebron James and flirtations of does he go back to Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Does he want to go to Dallas?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Does he just play out the final year in Los
Angeles and let chips fall where they may. He did
opt in for fifty two point six million dollars. Let's
always remind that in terms of decision making, he made
that decision, and that changes the entire complains.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Why does he deserve more because he helped build Goldens Well.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But that's what he's saying, right, is by my success
and the success of those teams. Yes, I got paid
and I made a big salary, but the valuation and
the equity of the ownership is worth whatever that number is,
he says, a ten x, which I understand again to
a point. But he is an outlier in terms of
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a guy that's going to begin and seemingly end a
career in one spot. So what are you gonna have
guys that hop around like Kevin Durant would be a
part owner, and what half the league well.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
What happened Kevin Durant went from Seattle to Oklahoma City
when I was of a team moves. Are you gonna
be responsible for that?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's like Frider, were you on the other side if
there's a lease that still needs to get paid.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
No, But yeah, that's like me saying I worked at
the McDonald's when I was a teenager and now look
at McDonald's and how much money they made. So I'm
coming back from my equity because I worked there three
summers when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, that that's not the way things work. And I
don't know why.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Well, people don't go to McDonald's for you. They go
to the NBA because people like Steph Curry. There was
a lot of people before Steph Curry, a lot of
people before Magic and Larry that did the blood, sweat
and the tears to get this league off the ground
even when it was on tape delay.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Well just a theages, absolutely, so you.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Know those guys are fought through it. But no, you
get fifty percent. And when you start telling me that
sixty million is getting yourself under paid?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Chet Hogan, what's his new contract going to come out to?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I mean even more than that there's gonna be one
hundred million dollar player in about two years from that.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, yeah, so that right over the horizon.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
That is disgusting even the say something like that that
you deserve more than let's say, sixty million dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Well, but you know, hey, mister Burns, you're the richest guy.
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, but I trade it all for a little more, right,
I mean, everybody wants a little bit more, whether you're
you got ten bucks in your wallet or ten million.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Invest it, go buy yourself some business.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Right, But it's but it's also the point of you
float these things and look, if you're the NBA right now,
not that your union and the league have always gotten
along and played nice sandbox, but compared to what's going
on in the NFL, as we've chronicled over the course
of the week and earlier tonight, like I'd flex all over.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
The place all these other leads.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Right, it's crazy you would say something like that when
most Americans are having trouble even affording a home, even
once they're making seventy five to one hundred thousand dollars,
still can't afford a home because home values are so expensive.
And then you have an NBA player saying we're on
the value that sixty or seventy million dollars. Look at
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some of the new contracts, like I said, Cheded Holmgren
as Jay, I mean, these are astronomical, and then you're
gonna complay complain that it's not enough, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Well, but it's all relative, right, I mean, look, you
may make a as the guy he decided it is
because you may still believe on the grand scale, you've
helped create this multi billion dollar business and you get
a small and.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You're handsomely paid for that to do that.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Well, but that doesn't mean he can't think he deserves
a little bit more. They call you you you could
be mad at him. I'm trying to go from the
practice standpoint of, you know, you add the extra zeros.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I'm not in his wallet.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But if I'm a guy that i've watched the league
grow and I've seen all that, I'm not saying I
agree with him by any stretch of the way. But
I'm not also dismissing league.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
The league did not grow because of Steph Curry. If
Steph Curry retired tomorrow, you're not going to tell me
that the Golden State Warriors are going to take a
hit financially, and whatever their evaluation of their team is
is all of a sudden gonna plumbing and go down.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It doesn't work that.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Way, right, But the point is that in his mind,
and we're trying to read the tea leaves off of
how he's saying, this is what the Warriors' growth was.
Say nothing of the league itself, right, a global expansion
or whatever else you know, in terms of marketplace and
through ways. Is that the Warriors weren't winning. And while
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they had agree they.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Were winning way before a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
They were winning, sure, fifty years ago, so what though, No,
and then there's a laws you can't forget about. The
sea was okay. I mean they had a couple of
runs and they were fun to watch and win. And
then you moved from Oakland to San Francisco. Guess what,
the price of poker goes up.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
So then Pey rick Berry and those guys all the
money because they were winning back fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I mean, it's just this is crazy. That's somebody, but
this is insane. I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Want to throw out just so you can complete the
arc of this four hour show someone.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Think of the children.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Can you just give me one of those so we
can have that alongside fire?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Think of the children for crying out loud? What's wrong
with you?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Kind of what you keep coming back to. It's like, oh,
these people are all.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Getting but that's what that's what you're telling me.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Though you about you went and started equating it to
whether someone can buy a house or not.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's like, it's it's just a different stratosphere.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Let me tell people listening to this show right now,
do not want to hear athletes say that they're underpaid.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
They're tight.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
They don't even want to hear w NBA players say
they're underpaid.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Look how little they make.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I'm not saying they're not entitled to that opinion. I'm
trying to be the guy bringing everybody together to the
table to have a rational discussion about the economics of sports.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And maybe that may bore you, but I think it's curious.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
The headline for Steph is sixty million, raising the point
of equity. If you're a guy in a place and
you have great success, you win titles with that, the
league is rising, and you're one of the stars and
faces of the league. That they trade on. I mean, look,
he made money as a production company with Holy Moley
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the ABC Mini Golf, you know, I mean, I have
no question about that. So he's had the anti Larry
Perks my sarcasm buckets filling up. You'll make that all yeah, yeah, no,
I but it's still it's the interesting conversation when guys
start talking about equity. Right when Caleb Williams last year
in the story was like, well he wanted a piece
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of the Bears, Like, you can always ask, right, I
could go to Scott Shapiro and Julie Talbot in our
management and say I want to triple my salary, and
you know what they're gonna say, Hey, you like it here?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Right, tom Brady didn't even get part of the team.
Look what he did for the Patroons.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Does mean he didn't ask. But also, you know, Tom
Brady was always an outlier guy in terms of his
ability and what mattered and winning and having the ancillary
funds playing all those years. He still made a lot
of money. He had a wife at the time.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Anybody took a pay cut to play, it was Tom Brady,
not so much Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
But but that's the thing, right, It's different unions, different
pressure points. Because people would always use the argument that
Brady deflated things by doing what he did.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's like, no, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Every other agent and you know player went into team
offices and they asked, hey, you know, we could probably
get a second decent pass rusher if your guy takes
a little less. Did any of them take less? No,
he didn't deflate the market. He was an outlier that
he won a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He won a whole bunch.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
And that's the reason why the Patriots, Oh what a
an evaluation was because of Tom Brady, not only his play,
but because it taking less money so they could sign
more people.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Well, and look, everybody's gonna have their their motivations, right.
Depending on where you are in your career, you may
put up with more in your workplace, dynamics of things
that you don't necessarily love, whether your kids are younger,
maybe they you know, go to a school or travel
or whatever else. Like, there's a million factors that everybody has.
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You take care of aging parents, so you have a
different economic thing to where maybe you'd love to go
free and fly loose, but you can't.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
How much more money through does stuff think he deserves.
But and by the way, how are you going to
figure out how much money stuff should get more compared
to Draymond Green?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And on and on.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
But that's the beauty of having opening the conversation.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And it's not the beauty of that's not the beauty.
Come on, open your mind.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Come on, man, you know I can't believe you're sitting
here making it trying to make a case for a
guy that makes sixty minutes. That's like saying we should
pay extra.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'm the guy that would say, okay, steph work meet through.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Doesn't make enough money, so let's pay extra, right, Is
that what you want to tell me?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
If he raises the price, you're gonna stop going there.
It's like this is where it always the rubber meets
the road, right. I'm here in southern California. Every year,
like clockwork, the prices at Disneyland go up. Everybody complains,
guess what you still have three hundred plus days a
year or your shoulder to the shoulder with some greasy
guy from down the street because they're at capacity at
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in the morning. I think it made for a better
visual by making it a greasy guy.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I mean, it's it's that kind of thing like you
can play it, but you still pay it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
The only way to get that to change is not
going and all of you deciding you're not going to go,
and then maybe you.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Can do that long term.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
We talked a little bit about the strike era Mark
workers there in Boston. They publicly stated they were gonna
do it for one series. How much substantively are you
changing things if you don't go to work for a weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Right, right, especially when it's a big game too. Well,
but like it's.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, it's a tough series, right, a lot of people,
a lot of asses and seats, a lot of beers, pretzels,
whatever else being consumed. But if you're trying to really
get something substantively done, you got to be ready to
sit it out. So anytime we get close to any
of the labors show where lockouts or strikes or whatever else, like,
all right, let's see how far you'll take this. But
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the Steph Curry side of this, it's just interesting to
me that he throws it out and it's a thought
piece for like the larger conversation of sports and equity
for players or are you just part of the machine
as that.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Dire party, the machine.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Nobody's bigger than the NBA, Nobody's bigger than the NFL.
And that goes for Lebron and Tom Brady and people
like that. By the way, real quick, real quick, you
brought up Disney Lamb.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
I had a fraternity brother who got to go to
Disney Land. He was the first wooden line and he
was there was barely anybody there was after nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
He was on a honeymoon. He was in the air.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
His plane had the land. They landed in Florida. They
had nothing to do Disney World. It just reopened like
maybe three or four days later. So he goes, let's
just go there, see what it's like. He was the
first car in the in the park. He guat the
first dude that there must have been lessed one hundred
people there for like the first half a day.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It was crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
No, I remember that we did a trip. I was
working at Yahoo. We went to Vegas. We just took
our keys and wallets and went Wow overnight. Yeah, and
we had it was so slow there. We had the
pit bosses were running the place in terms of actually
going and getting our drinks like because they'd sent most
of the people home.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Because I'm what would be.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Smarter aer udyite kind of guy and consider myself reasonably
well read book that I'm into that came out. He
goes back to twenty twenty, since you mentioned McDonald's worth
of Looksie called franchise the golden arches in Black America.
Nice and talking about McDonald's and its cultural influence as
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well as people who have made that the family business
as franchise owners and building their own mini empires. Really fascinating, Reid,
and worth taking a look at as you go through.
There you go, and that's one to grow on NBA
players and their salaries. Steph Curry, come on, now, he
could be the villain for you, Arnie.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
We'll have to start collecting money for him.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
All right, all right, let's go to try and Nick,
let's go find out at the news desk what happened
on a big Friday night and whether Steve cashed any
in game parlays on Nick Kurtz, No, no such thing.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
And some people are saying, who yes, a rookie for
the A's hit four home runs in the win at
Houston tonight fifteen to three, said rookie is Nick Kurtz.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Crinched with a k not.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Nick Hurtz, No kurts like tuck, Yeah, nicely done.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Thank you my Glucy and fred Zah.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
This guy went six for six with eight RBIs six
runs scored. He was just drafted in the first round
last year from Wake Forest. The Angels in ten innings
at Seattle three to two. The Mets won their fifth
in a row eight one at San Francisco. Mets are
still first in the NL East by a half game
over the Phillies. Phillies won twelve five at the Yankees.
Phills were down three to two going to the seventh.
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Kyle Schwarber is thirty fifth and thirty six.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Homers of the year.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Today, Miami won at Milwaukee five to one. The Brewers
are first in the NL Central, still a game over
the Cubs, who lost twelve five at the White Sox.
The lost to All Star Pitchers show to I, Minaga,
Texas and Minnesota with wins Cleveland at Kansas City reigned out.
They'll have a doubleheader on Saturday. Saint Louis shout out
the Padres three nothing San Diego, no runs, eleven hits.
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The Dodgers now six games up on San Diego and
the NL West Dodgers were win at Boston five to two.
Dodger outfielder Mookie bats Exit Boston was out for personal reasons.
Fenway Park's food workers are on strike this weekend. By
the Way, taoscar Hernandez of La home run and three RBIs.
Toronto has won seven of eight. It won at Detroit
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six to two the Windejose Burrios. Detroit has lost five
in a row Cincinnati and Colorado with wins. Arizona won
one nothing in eleven innings at Pittsburgh. The Pirates offense
went one for thirty three. The trade deadline is Thursday.
The Yankees acquired third baseman Ryan McMahon from the Rockies
for a couple a ball pitchers. The Yanks ole McMahon
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thirty two million dollars for the next two years. Now
he's batting two seventeen. The Mets traded four lefty reliever
Gregory Soto from the Orioles for two minor league pitchers.
The Baseball Hall of Fame inductions are this Sunday. Five
players were voted in this year, including Eachiro Suzuki also
honored at Cooperstown this weekend. Cc Sabathia, Billy Wagner, also
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Dave Parker and Dick Allen. Those two were allow by
committee programming. Note Yes, there's MLS action on FS one tomorrow,
Yeah Miami and Cincinnati. But Lionel Messi was suspended one
game for missing the MLS All Star Game last Wednesday.
By the way, that LA Galaxy game tonight at Minnesota
at Houston never started. The problem was the field conditions
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resulting from the significant rain. There no rescheduled date at
all for that one rag. In women's soccer, the eurofinalists
Sunday on Fox TV Spain against England Sunday on Fox
Indy Cars at Northern California's road Course in Monterey WNBA
Winnsdanight for New York and Minnesota. The Bengals signed first
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round pass rusher Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Back to you, fantastic stuff, Thanks as always for a
great week, Steve, Steve and Arni back together Sunday night
here Fox Sports Radio eight to eleven Pacific at Stick
and Genius one where you find Arnie find me over
at Swollen Dome. We teased it earlier. We got to
go back to it. Arnie's getting ready to move, or
so he cleans. How do we get him set up
for his new sporting life? Any ideas at Swollen Dome
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at Sticking Genius one hashtag fire on the Mountain.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
We'll do that next on Fox.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
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