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of us. We made it to another NFL season. Yeah,
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let's go. It happened. The Hall of Fame game tonight,
Chargers blow out the Lions. Cash those over tickets, Baby,
let's go. Thirty four to seven is the final and
the Chargers look sweet in their uniforms doing so. They
have forty seven different uniform combinations this year, they're gonna
change it halftime of some games. And they win tonight.
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Thanks two And this is the first time this has
been said in NFL history. The Chargers wins an NFL
team wins tonight thanks to the performance of Trey Lance.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Might be a first and last night, whoa, I got
a thing for you on that. Okay, maybe so? Actually
did they wait? They won games when he quarterback before?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Right now? Oh yeah, yeah, maybe. Look, you got to
see some real live NFL players play tonight. Guys are
actually playing Week one of the NFL. That's good. Marian
Hampton played a little bit wow, okay, I mean the Lions.
You at least got a little bit of a teaser trailer. Yeah,
when it comes to Hampton company, sure, yeah, I mean
I'm not saying you saw you know, he had six
carries on one draw.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
No, I mean the one carry was highly disappointing though,
because you could have seen some you know, does he
have a nose for the painted grass and instead he
kind of juked and did one of those why are
you dancing towards the sideline?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, run forward, my friend. Yeah, you saw Hassan Haskins
who's played a lot in the NFL. He got to play.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Nahim Hines was back on the field.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Will Disley, who had about a three week run last
year in fantasy of being a uh, he'saming tight end.
He's like Baltimore. He's back. But tonight belongs to Trey Lance. Right.
He had and I said this look, I said this
kind of off the cuff, and it turned out to
be right. You know, I'm usually right about stuff like this,
but I said, this is the best night of Trade
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Lance's NFL career. This is I'd go back.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
To twenty twenty one when he was drafted third overall, saying.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, okay, on the field, Oh, this is the best
night of his NFL career.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Let's see back in twenty two, twenty one. Uh huh
he had a two hundred and forty nine two touchdown
one interception game in a twenty three seven win over
the Houston Texas. What was his passer rating? One sixteen Ooh, okay,
so that compares favored. He completed sixty nine point six
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percent past it's very comparable to tonight right, fifteen out
of twenty. Quarterback rating was one fourteen two touchdowns. He
ran for ten yards. Uh is he taking the job
from Justin Herbert? Of course not right, but the thing
is right. You see Trey lanceon and I love seeing
the video on the sideline tonight of Harbad just banging
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on his shoulder pads and punching him in the chest
and pumping him up, and you can see the smile
on Trey Lance's face. And I'll tell you what you
want to you want to hot take off of Trey
Lance tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
This is where his NFL draft status will help him
because no matter where he goes, he's always going to
be a former number three overall pick in the NFL draft, right,
It's always going to be that. So the fact that
he was evaluated at that point that high by a
team that's going to follow him, and that's a good
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thing because now that's going to open doors for him.
By twenty thirty, okay, twenty twenty five. Member, now he's
only twenty five years old. And again I was waiting
for the first tweet to say, uh, you know, Trey
Lance is younger than seventy five percent of all the
starting quarterbacks in the NFL this year. Just so you know,
by twenty thirty, Trey Lance will have a season where
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he is starting for an NFL team, either as a
bridge quarterback or a guy that is a backup. Firmly
entrenches a back up as a number two quarterback, not
bouncing around him more, but firmly trenches backup quarterback, and
he will be thrust in because of an injury or something,
but he will get the full confidence of a coaching
staff of a team, and he's going to start for
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a season by twenty thirty. Now, well, wait a minute,
but Trey Lance, he's been about. Yeah, but look at
what's happened to some of these other guys around the NFL. Right.
Sam Darnold, former number three overall pick, bounced around, didn't
work with the Jets, didn't work with the Panthers, didn't
really get a chance with the forty nine ers. But hey,
all of a sudden in the Minnesota Vikings, he gets
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thrust in because of the JJ McCarthy injury, and he
turns that into a thirty five touchdown year, one hundred
million dollar contract. Geno Smith was a backup for a decade,
never thought he'd get a chance to start ever again.
And then Pete Carroll says, well, we're getting rid of
Russell Wilson. I like you, Gino, and now Gino's made
two hundred million dollars in the last five years. Right,
first of the Seahawks and now with the Raiders. Right
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before you say it's not gonna happen, remember drafted number
three overall, injured with the forty nine ers, didn't really
get a chance, goes to the Cowboys. Of course, never
got a chance there. The Cowboys got him simply to
put pressure on Dak Prescott. So Jerry Jones can walk
around and going, I like the Lance kid, and you
never know what could happen. And hey, Scott, when he
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was healthy responded, he had some good years. That was
a good move by the Cowboys. Not great for Trey
Lance's career, but it was good for the Cowboys. He's
never really gotten a chance. Now he is in a
situation where he is with a head coach that is
quarterback friendly, that gets the best out of his quarterbacks,
doesn't say I'm gonna turn you loose. Right. We got
a great season from Justin Herbert last year when when
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Harball learned I need to trust him a little bit more,
but still limit it where it's not him going out
and throwing the ball fifty times a game right, twenty
three touchdowns, three picks. He had a great year last year.
Bad playoff game. I'm not gonna cancer code. Bad playoff game,
but great year for Justin Herbert. He is in a
quarterback friendly offense with a head coach that's going to
believe in him, that loves quarterbacks. This is where he
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starts to gain his confidence back. I'm sure he will
win the backup job. He'll be a solid backup for
a while, and he will get that bridge opportunity simply
because so many guys have gotten bridge opportunities. Kenny Pickett
was terrible, and he's got getting a bridge opportunity now
at the Cleveland Browns. By twenty thirty's only twenty five.
By two twenty thirty, Trey Lance will be a starting
quarterback for a year in the NFL. It's going to
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happen for him, because it happens for everybody that's got
some sort of draft acumen that is going to look
good to teams. Hey, we can take him back to
the guy he was coming out. We're gonna teach him
our way. We're gonna get him in our system, because
there's a system for everybody. You just gotta find it.
And Trey Lance eventually will find that system that works
is you know, when you were with enough teams, you
find that system. Jack Wilson will find that system that
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works for him. At some point. He'll be a bridge
quarterback for some team. By the time he's thirty, he
will also start another season in the NFL because hey,
he was drafted number two overall. He please started for
the Jets. He will be that bridge guy. Everybody that's
dread that has that acumen, that has that resumet in
that cachet, will find a chance at some point in
their career, and it may be for a short amount
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of time, but you gotta do something with the opportunity.
You gotta darnold it. You got a geno smith it
because you could turn it into something where, hey, I've
made my money and I've lived out my dream.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Gino, the thirty ninth pick in that twenty thirteen draft,
we'd seen him as a top flight collegiate player, goes
on to your point decade, gets another shot and has
made the most of it. Now we'll lead the Raiders
for Kenny Pickett, that super Bowl champion Kenny Pickett to you,
and he still needs.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
To beat out Joe Flacca.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Okay, still needs to beat out Joe Flacco for that job.
Trey Lance is interesting, right because we had him on
the field for the forty nine ers and a register
a stat line from one of the games, and he
had a couple of games where he played pretty and
reasonably well, but he got hurt in a game against
the Bears and the torrential down pour, and well we
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didn't really get to see him much after that. Brock Purdy,
the legend of mister irrelevant goes on. You go to Dallas,
never really give it a shot. Go back to when
he was drafted right third overall was something you and
I on the draft that I talked about, going, well, look,
I think if you always it's been in the opinion,
if a GM wants to himself to a quarterback, have
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at it. Just know that you're generally gonna walk the
plank if and when it goes disastrously wrong. So I
defended when the Bears took Trubisky all those years ago
right in the process, the guy they should have taken
would have been to Shaun Watson, right because it wasn't
Patrick Mahomes, it became Patrick Mahomes. And in you know,
retrofitting history based on a guy's success. But all of
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that to say, you take your shot and you're married
to it. With Trey Lance, he only played nineteen collegiate games.
Huge red flag in the moment. Yeah, But like, if
you want to bring him in and you're the guy
in Shanahan and this squad and what you have in
the front office that you think you can bring him
along and make him your guy, then you do well.
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They decided to abandon that proposition right that he wasn't
going to get the first team run in reps, et cetera.
So now it's the all right, you're now twenty five
years he just turned twenty five in May. Right to
your point about the seventy eight percent of against him
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Seventy that all the quarterbacks of the NFL remember number
three overall pick I'm telling he's gonna get the same
thing Anthony Richardson, same thing, He's gonna whatever. But again college,
he's gonna a chance to But that's the other part
is that what you're gonna see teams start to subscribe
to in drafting quarterbacks. Everything goes in cycles. Is that okay?
Trey Lance not a lot of play in the NFL
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in college. Look where he is still try and make
it Anthony Richardson didn't start a lot of games in college.
You can't turn him into an NFL quarterback. You are
gonna see players now in quarterbacks stay in college longer
because they're You're told by teams, yeah, you had a
great year, but you started eleven games, right, and you
can make money more from you in college before you
come to the NFL. Seymore, get more seasoning because you
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don't get the reds. More butts.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I thought you were gonna Well you do need to
see more, but more, but see more of how your
offensive line, how their butts move, and work on listening
to a defensive line in front of you.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You call this place, I'll cut your belly open. Now
you've just derailed calling for alcoholic? Is there an alcoholic here?
You want? Kid?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
And I'm gonna got you. But again it's you don't
red shirt guys. And I think that if you decide
you want to take a shot on a player and
you want to sit him for a year, great, I
get it. The clock's running on his rookie contract or
whatever else. But if you have a serviceable or better
quarterback to help them come along, then yeah. But generally
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that's not what NFL teams do anymore. We see guys
get drafted in the first or second round, and damn it,
they're getting on the field by hooker, by crook and
for Trey Lance. Now it becomes the all right, you're
the break glass in case of emergency guy. As it
stands currently number three on the depth chart for the Chargers,
see if you can break through, but still young and
(11:54):
now having been around winning organizations and cultures, perhaps well cowboys,
now it's standing uh that.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Perhaps that's just a culture and an organization. It was
a job. When you're around cultures and organizations, you learned
what not? You mean warning culture Now I just said
culture and organization.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Oh just there are more seasons. You've seen a lot
of stuff. Yeah, yeah, now that that's a job done. No,
But now you have the opportunity to go learn here,
maybe you get a shot. Hopefully Herbert's healthy, a lot
of expectations on him, but if not, and you can
turn this into an audition that maybe you get that
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next job, because, as we know, in the NFL, there's
an awful lot of cycling through what do we say,
sixty seven sixty eight on average the last three years.
You gotta how many guys have started at least one game.
You know, it's almost as many pitchers as the Dodgers
have gone.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh wow, that's all thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine.
They're going to break the record from.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Most forty two according to guinness'll break it a week.
Good name like SNeW back come of Saturday, though, But
get ready, Trey Lance.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He will get it. He will get a shot. He'll
be starting at some point in the NFL in the
next five years. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. Jets show, Yeah,
you know normally they break guys. Could be here. That
might be the where he goes to find glory. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can see. I can say I could completely see
train Land starting for the Jets. I can complete, I
can see a lot of guys. I can see the
Jets getting Zach Wilson back and starting him if he
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has a big.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Should I get you one of the old color form
sets of a Jets uniform and you can just start
putting the helmet and the jersey. Now I'm showing you
my age and you can go and put that on.
You know, any photo of any.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Quarterback color forms were fun. Yeah. I used to do
it and then go, No, no, I want to move
this a half inch to this side. There, No, no,
I want to move this one. This one goes an
inch up higher here? Okay, great, a little bit right here.
Nice Jets color forms. We did exit out about a
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Speaker 2 (15:42):
You selfish bastard West End girls.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
This West End girls. I'm more to the East End. Okay,
you like the West now I'm thinking of Moby here.
We are now going to the east side. The West
is the best. Didn't dun west West said? Dude? Uh?
(16:10):
Best Pet Shop Boy song, ty Shirt. Since you seem
to like this song a lot? Uh Pet Shop Boys,
Dusty Springfield. Uh, what's the name of that song? Hang On?
Since you went away, I've been hanging around hang On,
Dusty Springfield. I'm trying to do it with two songs.
(16:31):
What have I done to deserve this? That's okay, I'm
trying to do it with a song in my head? Yeah,
this one right here? Best Pet Shot Boys song right here.
Anytime the song comes on the radio, I'm jamming up
and I'm singing the Dusty Springfield part. What have I?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
What have I?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
What have I done to deserve this?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Dan Guardian Rake that number five of all time pet
shot boy songs?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Tysher's just trying to get to the dusty Springfield part. Now,
just hitting fast forward. I'm feeling down. You went away?
Make me feel better? How am I gonna get a closer?
How am I gone get a centerfielder? Here we go.
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It's got some juice to it right now, a little
bit of pet shop boys in dusty Springfield? Oh yeah,
that was great? What of I? What of I? DRELLI
was missing in my life? What about? Of course? It
was happy, feel fulfilled now, happy closer day, speaking of
the happy closer day in Major League Yeah, a trade deadline.
Everybody got a closer today. Thirty four trades made in
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Major League Baseball, thirty two closers, Suarez and Mullins. Those
are your thirty four trades. It's not a terrible analysis
of it. Yeah, that's what it is. That's what today was.
Everybody got a closer. Philly's got a closer, Mets got
a closer. Is gonna be set up? Guys? Okay, great,
what about there's got a closer. What about the Yankees
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got a closer, Okay, terrific.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Hellsley could be that guy. If you now, all of
a sudden you hear the trumpet. Yeah, and he's now
taken over for Diaz.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You stay out. Like John Paul Morosi said, when when
you have a reliever that's got his own music and pyrotechnics,
that's your closer. That's why it's so good for the
Yankees because they now have four guys with their own
pyrotechnics and closer music. So that's pretty good. I got
fatal four way match at a WWE live events. Anytime
you get a player that has their own entrance, you
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know you're getting a good player. Like, hey, the guy's
got his own entrance, We got a good guy. If
I were negotiating a contract as a closer, does Rogers
have his own entrance music? No, then we're not giving
up a lot for him. Yeah, you go get bent.
I want the guy that's got the music and the
pyrotechnics and the fireworks.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Who's got the highest rights fee that we have to
pay to play said music? What's it kind of cost
to bring the band to play it? If it's over
this threshold, we're out.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Wait. So if we get this guy, we play his music,
we're on the hook for an extra one hundred and
forty five thousand dollars this Yeah, we're not making that trade. Nope,
don't find me that in.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Go find me that busker from Ted Last, Give me
that guy Busker, Give me that one man band guy
from Lasso.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What was that movie where it was the two people
who met and they were buskers? It was the whole
movie was a musical and they did all the songs together.
It's like ten years ago. Oh oh, it was a musical.
It was a short title. I can't think of it.
They were buskers and their whole movie is in them
doing songs in relayship. They met busking. I think once
once that that was a movie once. I don't think
(19:47):
I know that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's ill thing.
They're both. He's a busker, I'm a busker. You're welcome
to be a busker too. No, they're on that's I
really have to stop saying the word busker. But it's
kind of fun. They're both.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
It almost sounds like you're saying bust and you're gonna
try to pay tribute to Phil.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Collins or Buster Bluth. You know he's a Milford man.
There you go.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
But no, that modern day musical by the Busker and
an immigrant and there are then Full Wheaton in Dublin.
Is they write rehearsal record songs that tell their love story?
And that's from two thousand and six? Oh is that
long ago?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Wow? Okay? Starring Glenn Hansard. Hey, god looks familiar. What's
he from? No, I don't think he's from not from anything,
Glenn Hansard. Yeah, I don't think I think he's just
from that movie. He probably you probably go to go
to Busker Khn and just sign autographs.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
In the two thousands, he was one half of the
folk rock duel The Swell Season. I think you made
that up. I don't think that was real. He was
in the commitments and sing treatments. Uh Outspan Foster? Who exactly?
I was in in the commitments one hundred times?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Who was that was? It was he the drummer at
the end that became the singer. I don't know out
Span Foster, that's what it says. His name is Outspan Foster. Okay,
man Foster.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I thought he was.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
He looked like the guy from Syrah and no to
me for a minute that was saying, heaven is wherever
I'm found.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, okay, I gotta look up. I'll look him up.
I got pictures. Born in nineteen seventy in Dublin. Okay,
all right, so he was he was in the band.
Then he's one of the guys in the band. Okay. Now,
so happy closer to day because everybody got a closer. Meanwhile,
in the NFL tonight we saw the Lions get pasted
Hall of Fame game by the Chargers. Don't worry. Everything
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is fine for the Lions to a point, to a
point being back in Detroit for vacation the last week,
being the greater Detroit area, right flying into Detroit, right
flying into Romulus, being outside Detroit, then traveling around the state.
The Lions fans in the last three years, you've seen
their you've seen their character arc. Yeah, no, that's good.
(21:58):
I like that. You've seen their character where they go
from wide eyed, happy to be here. We are good.
For the first time in my life. My dad keeps
talking about this Bobby Sanders guy that was a good
running back, and I don't know who he's talking about.
It was in the nineties. But now we're good. Hey,
that's great. So that's how they started three Bob Sanders
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not he's seeking miss a lot of the University of
Iowa wouldn't stay healthy by ah. But when he was
on the field, man boy, he was fun. So that's
how they were three years ago. Now, you know, I
go back every year and I take the temperature of
the the state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
This time you went in the summertime. Yeah, it was humid,
really humid, but you didn't have that hair that you had.
I'd have looked like slash, Like all my hair was
just semed to come out like that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So now Lions fans are at the Hey, it's Super
Bowl or bust. And if we don't win, there's got
to be changes, right, just like in three years they've gone.
Remember the movie To Live and Die in La Sure, Okay,
So the one cop shows up in beginning he's learning
the ropes like wow, I don't know, like, and he's
being taught the real way to do to be a
(23:05):
police officer. It's like, I don't understand this. He's the
innocent guy. But by the end of the movie he's
the same guy. He's like, yeah, I'm doing things slick.
And like Matthew Modin goes from the doctor at any
given Sunday that hey, we got to do things the
right way and take care of these players. And he
takes James Woods to spot and he's like, yeah, whatever
we need. I like the women and I like that
get out. Like this is the character arc of Lions fans.
(23:25):
And I can't say I disagree because it is a
super bowler bust year. Because you think that all the
Lions are young, they're good. No, the Lions, they have
so many guys that have to get paid. Right there.
They're talking this week about giving Aiden Hutchinson more money. Wait, dude,
guy's got another couple of years. No, but they want
to give him more.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Everybody else got paid, and you see what a pain
in the ass it is for all those teams. Right Cincinnati,
he's still trying to sort out Hendrickson.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But the TJ.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Watt thing got a little bit odd. Yeah, yeah, right,
and go on, Michael Parson still doesn't have a contract.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
He not just Hey, it's like, dude, let's you gotta
come back healthy year. You've been coming off a really
bad let's see here. But not only that, after this year,
Jared Golf has to get paid again. Wait he does, Yes,
he does. I'm and Ross Saint Brown's gotta get paid
for the first time after this year. After this year,
Jamier Gibbs is gonna say, I'm the best running back
in the NFL. Where is my money? They already know
they gotta say goodbye to Jamison Williams, like, dude, sorry,
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We're just not gonna be able to sign you. I'm sorry.
Sam Laporta after this year is gonna say, hey, I'm
one of the top three tight ends in the NFL.
I gotta get paid. The Lions did such a great
job bringing in all this young talent at once. It's amazing.
But if they don't win, if it's not a super
Bowl year for them, this is gonna be because they
can't win with this group and because they're gonna have
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to say goodbye because they can't pay everybody, There's gonna
be huge change in all kinds of talent leaving Detroit.
This is their last year. This is the year for
them to say super Bowl or bust, because after this
year there's gonna be new players, new talent then, because
you can't afford everybody, and you gotta try to replace
some guys. At as good as you are, it's not working.
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We need somebody else to come in and play this position.
There's gonna be so much change in Detroit. Like this
is a you think of all they're just in the
they're young, and there's so much fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
This shows you how fast the window opens and closes
in the NFL. Because if the if the Lions can't
do it, the money and the lack of advancement, that's
gonna force change. Man, that's happening in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
If you win, you get after it. I mean, Knuckles
said it. Come into camp Sonic, you mentioned him. David
Montgomery said, Hey, the expectations are through the roof. Yeah,
we gotta get this done right. We know what what
is in store for us. And you look at the division,
you look at the NFC as a whole. Right, it's
been the Eagles. You have to come up of the
commanders a year ago. We'll see where they are year
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two of Daniels. Cowboys can't get out of their own way,
but they're gonna win enough games to be a pain
in the ass. And then you have the Giants. They're
they're in the East. But in your own division, all
three teams are dangerous. Right the Bears won the off season.
I still think the eight and a half is kind
of a very interesting number in terms of they're over
under for the year as Ben Johnson takes over and
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we wait to see what Caleb Williams can become. Packers,
they're always at least serviceable. Jordan Love's pretty good quarterback.
You got a lot of wide receivers. They don't really
distinct nobody distinguishable as a number one. But you had
a good running game, solid defense. And then Minnesota, even
if they take a fallback from what Sam Darnold and
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company were able to do. I mean that fourteen wins
seems a little bit odd. But even if they fall back,
what are they going to be a nine to ten
win team. So you're looking at a division that you're
fighting and trying to crawl past those three teams to
hold your place, Let alone, what else is going on
across the other division? San Francisco getting healthy again, the Rams,
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great roster curiosity of Matthew Stafford. Arizona We've talked about
a lot with what they've done in restoring what should
be serviceable defense Kyler Murray with more weapons between your
tight end and year two of Marvin Harrison Junior and
James Connor Trey Benson getting after it. So and Seattle's
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not gonna fall off the map entirely again if they
take a step back. That was a ten win team.
So you got a bunch of teams in conference that
are that are clamoring. And doesn't mean that you suddenly
fall out of wild card condention or that you can't
win the division, but it's certainly a much more complete
playing field. And you lost your coordinators, you lost the
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ingenuity of Ben Johnson. Doesn't mean that you don't pick
up something different, but everything that was in the margins
and you'd say, okay, well we've got the perfect play
dialed up.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Does the new guy have that? No? Oh yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
And I thought Ben Johnson, look at time, he got
too cute and it came back and bitter. Yeah, there's
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
The first common Washington, Yeah, and the first time he
throws the ball to a tackle eligible, I'll throw a
bottle through my television.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
As a Bears fan, bought all of that to say
that a lot of that changes. So how much does
that change the identity of what you're doing as an offense?
Glenn going to the Jets? How much defensively? How much
are you banking? I mean, is Hutchinson the same guy?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
They had They lost a lot on defense the back
end of last year, So you'll be healthier. The injury
bug probably won't hit you as as hugely as it did.
But you had a lot of things that still went right. Yeah,
for that squad a year ago and you came up short,
and for Dan Campbell. Eventually it's not cute anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah. Look, I like the fact that Dan Campbell and
and and most of the teams are sick of the
How different will the offense be without Ben Johnson? How
was the Holl's the offense doing without Ben Johnson?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Like, will you at least ask me about Aaron Glenn
with the defense? Stop asking me about Ben Jo Like
they're mad about that already, and it's so mad we
Ben Johnson asking me about Ben Johnson? I dig that.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I mean, like, until you prove your identity, that's still
your identity. Like right now you need proof, Wisconsin, guess
what getting blown out by the Chargers, even if it
is the Hall of Fame game doesn't.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Help any of that. No, no, it doesn't. It doesn't. Right,
even if it's second, third, fourth string guys, or you
could say, well, we really weren't showing them anything. You're
not gonna put it on tape vanilla playbook. We're not.
We're not showing anything. In fact, we had our quarterback
throw with his opposite hand. Just so, I don't know
if you noticed that or not. I know people haven't
seen Hendon hook a play for a while, but he
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was using his opposite hand. I don't even know that
or not. It's been working on that since he's been
injured coming out of Tennessee. So while we're doing that,
So I did that spiral? Looks good, doesn't it? Oh? Outstanding?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You just you side. Well, I'm just saying that I'm
seeing some of Justin Field's throw a practice. Is he
using the opposite No right arm? No right arm, He's
not Okay, he's not sailing the ball over Garrett Wilson's
head lefty Ay? That would he can do some of
those passes like Will love Is did a year ago. Dude,
It's like, I'm serious, with Justin Fields like it's and
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look and Aaron Glenn, I know, I'm gonna fall for
it again, but he's bringing It's a great culture. The
payers love him. He's a tough you know, he's a
hard ass. It's great. He keeps the and the one
thing I know is that the team will be much
more accountable than they were under Robert Solid because they
could tell that kind of went out the window. So
I'm falling for Aaron Glenn all over again. But like
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every day, it's the same thing. Like and I'm following
the Jets, you know, while the Jets are practicing, H'm
like following along on social media, and you know, one
of the guys I follow each other and he's a
Jets insider and he fits. Great pass by Justin Fields
in this seven on seven hit Garrett Wilson on a
tight window. Great coverage by Sauce. This is his best
ball the day. And then two minutes later, Justin Field
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Sales won thirteen feet over Mason Graham's Mason Taylor's head. Boy,
this was wide open in the red zone. I don't
know how he missed that. Like that's every day, like
every day, just what a great throat. Oh man, he
can't you know that now? He just sails one ten
feet The number of times I've seen field sales one
like that that, Like, I'm done seeing that, But I
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guess I guess that's what it's going to be. He's
gonna look great on some on some throwing balls, he's
gonna look bad on others. But he's a great running
the football.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
So okay, to be fair, I mean, some of it
in training camp is gonna be Beauty is in the
eye of the beholder as to who you're blaming on
a giving out, or you can do the caveat of well,
we don't know what they're trying to teach at this time.
That's the best of the training camp. It's like, well
you don't know. I mean, how much did the defense
know what play they were running? Like that was a communicat.
It's like, hey, you know, everybody's aware. It's like, no,
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we're gonna run it back like it's a second take
on a Hollywood set kind of thing during your workouts
and practices. So that's how that's how you excuse young quarterbacks.
As a guy who's watched justin fields for year, Welcome
to the show time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports. But guy who went
through his own Super Bowl with Bust a year in Detroit,
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it's Martin Wise.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He's got what's trending.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know these reports from training camp, right, you don't
want to take too much from them?
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Then also, I think, to your point of the watching
the throws, what doesn't look better in slow motion? Like
almost everything looks better in slow motion, nices. But I
saw Jeff Duncan tweet this today. Jeff Duncan writes for
The New Orleans Times, pickyun I've been reading Jeff Duncan
my entire life. He's been covering the team for twenty
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six years. Okay, I'm thirty five, so literally since the
time I was reading a newspaper. He goes, and I've
seen a lot of practices in my twenty six years
covering the Saints, and this is one of the best
ones I can remember from strictly a competitive standpoint plays
being made on both sides, all levels, all over the field.
And then, in a tweet attached to that, one says
at the same time, Tyler Shuck might have overseen directed
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the worst two minute drive in the history of the
NFL during situational work late in practice.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
See, that's what I worry about. Like when I see
how great someone looks, that, that's white noise. That gets mine.
So when I see Justin Fields was awful in seven
on seven he was three for twelve with two interceptions,
I go, he's gonna stink. Hey, he's gonna stink. If
you suck now, you're not gonna be good in the season.
If you really suck. Now, that's what I think about. No, No,
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it's Tyler sucked. Okay, Tyler sucked.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
The one that I'll never forget is von Miller talking
about Drew Locke, saying he throws some of the best
incompletions I've ever seen, and at that moment, that kid
is done. He's got no shots. All right, let's get
threecaps some of the stuff that did happen to. The
Chargers won the Hall of Fame game thirty four to
seven over the Lions third overall pick Trey Lance. Former
third overall pick Trey Lance started for LA and threw
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for two touchdowns with the Commanders and Washington Commanders Terry
McLaurin has asked Washington to trade him after the team
and he cannot come to a contract agreement. The Mariners
beat the Rangers sixth to nothing, cal Raley with home
run forty two of the season. That's the most in
a single season by a switch hitting catcher. The Braves
beat the Reds twelve to eleven and ten innings, and
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the Yankees beat the Rays seven to four.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
In the Al East.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Blue Jay traded for Shane Bieber and Ty France. Yankees
bullpen added three arms, David Bednard, Jake Byrd and Camilla do'vall.
The Red Sox acquired Dusty May from the Dodgers. The
Padres made five trades on the deadline day, getting first
baseman Ryan O'Hearn, Ramon and Loreano.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Mason Miller, j P. Sears, and Freddy for Mean.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
The Dodgers got Alex call from the Nationals and Brock
Stewart from the Twins. The Twins sending Carlos Correa back
to the Astros his former hometown Minnesota, also threw in
three thirty three million dollars in the deal. Tigers straight
for two pitchers, Kyle Finnegan and Charlie Morton. Rangers got
Merril Carroll Kelly from the Diamondbacks, and the Mets acquired
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Cedric Mullins from the Orioles. The Knicks and four mckillan
Bridges have agreed on a four year, one hundred and
fifty million dollar contract extension. Like they said, Jalen Brunson
took that pay cut to build the team around him,
and the team just happened to be the same team
from college.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Sure, that's what it is. And I gotta give I
get even a lot of credit Martin Weis, because I
know at some point tonight if I was, if I
was doing the updates, I would have absolutely called Freddy
fer mean Felix for mean, at least to Felix's said
that I have to the.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Likely fiasco from last night. I have to just really
make sure I was getting everybody right. A lot of teams,
a lot of movie places may be broken ankles likely surgery,
definite surgery, who knows.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, Freddy Ferman though a new padre back to you,
thanks so much, buddy. Coming up next, Yes, we'll have
a little bit on that mcal bridges contract with the Knicks,
plus what NFL team am I all in on to
the point where They're going to be a surprise division
winner and a trendy Super Bowl pick. That's next, right here,
Jason Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
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Speaker 1 (36:05):
Uh so, really quick? Yeah, the Knick signed mcal Bridges
to a four year, one hundred and fifty million dollar contract. Yeah,
they did right at a little surprising U straight cash.
What does this tell you? Right? Because I'll tell you exactly.
This tells you that the Knicks aren't going to be
making any moves. The rest of this offseason is gonna
be no big trades. Karl Anthony Towns is staying, Bridges
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is staying. These are the guys would probably go if
they were going to make a move. How does that
make you think they They firmly believe that Mike Brown
is the guy to get this team from last year
over the hump that this is. You know, they they
they made their depth moves and they're better a little
bit deeper than they were because they know they can't
just rely on running Jalen Brunston into the ground anymore.
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So they made their depth moves. But the big move
coming something for Yan is something else that is not
happening because now Bridges can't be traded for the next
six months. They gave him four years, one hundred and
fifty million. They're going to keep them. He had a
pretty good playoff for the Knicks after a down regular season.
This is the team the Knicks are gonna goin to say, Okay,
we're not gonna do anything crazy because all the other
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teams are hurt in the East. The Celtics aren't the
Celtics anymore. There's no Jason Tatum, there's no Haliburton for
the Pacers, the two teams you have to worry about
the most. So yeah, we think with this roster, with
this the changes that Mike Brown is gonna make, we
are good enough to win. This tells you they are
all in on Mike Brown for being the guy to
get them from the Eastern Conference Finals into the NBA Final.
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Run it Back, Run it Back. Currently the second favorite
in the East.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Looking at odds right now, you got the Cavaliers plus
two to forty Knicks at plus two seventy. Next team
is the Orlando Magic at plus five hundred, ahead of
your Atlanta Hawks and Detroit Pistons. The big question just becomes,
and I gotta show you this trading card that's going
around of Jalen Brunson. It is perhaps the worst and
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least flattering photo every put on a trade card makes.
It makes him look like what people used to call
Luca in terms of how they made the point. They
did the guy wrong. But can Mike Brown get he
and Kat to play defense?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Is your I mean that was what one hundred and
fifty million? Yeah, that's what those guys make. That's your question.
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coming off the Hall of Fame game tonight, we talked
about the lines a few minutes ago. I am all
in on the Chargers this year.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
We'll get you to the point where I prosper I
expect them to win the division and they're going to
be a trendy Super Bowl pick, and they should be.
Year one of Jim harbaught went better than anybody could
have expected. He puts in his culture and his new
system not great, not really modern in the NFL, kind
of looks a lot like the offense in Michigan. He's
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just got a bunch of Jags in there playing running
back at some positions. And still they squeak out a
playoff game, and if Justin Herbert doesn't have the worst
game of the year, maybe they win. But okay, still
better year than anybody expected last year. Now they got dudes, right,
they got two good running backs. Najie Harris had the
firecracker incident, hoping he's okay to come back week one.
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But a Marie Hampton's a guy, he's electric. I watch
a lot of him in North Carolina the last year plus.
They brought some dudes in. So now here's year two
of a culture that everybody is bought in on. He's
bought in on Justin Herbert. Herbert's bought in on Harbaugh.
Harbaugh knows that Herbert's still his best player. You have
a great wide receiver in Lad McConkie. You have a
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guy that's become more than serviceable in year two in
Quentin Johnson. If he takes a leap from year two
to year three like year one to year two, they
really got something there. Man in Johnston, they brought in
some dudes. This is gonna be a phenomenal year for
the Charge. It's the best division in football, and at
some point someone's gonna knock the Chiefs off. Charging the
West Trendy super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Pits second round pick Trey Harris as well one target tonight.
You couldn't haul it in. Look at the AFC race
in terms of the odds, Ravens are the favorite, followed
closely by the Bills and Chiefs to the Bengals, and
then the Chargers currently sitting at eleven to one, just
ahead of their rival and division mate Denver Broncos at
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fourteen to one.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
They're gonna gonave I know, and the Raiders are gonna
be okay because you have a quarterback and a really
good running back and a good head coach. Like you know,
they'll bring up the rear, but it won't be three
and fourteen. Bring up the red.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
You got a couple of big guys in manning that
defensive front. You look at what you've been able to
put together. Ben Mallers Next Fox