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August 13, 2025 • 57 mins

Jason and Mike tell you how many downloads the Taylor Swift/Kelce podcast will hit. Odell Beckham’s career should've been WAY better than it was. Plus, a visit from MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Tuesday In a few days finally the Mets win.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
But more Tuesdays you mean yeah? And a few tuesdays?

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Peede Alonzo the new all time home run king for
the Mets. Two home runs tonight. He passes Daryl Strawberry
and all I could think of when he hit that
home run was we better win this bleeping game. That's
all I thought. No time for reflection or boy, it's great.
I've seen more Pee Alonzo home runs is a met
than Darryl Strawberry, and I think about my life and
my youth. No, it was we better win this bleeping game, like.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Five one after the Marie and then all of a
sudden top before uh oh, I'm in the moment. In
the moment top before you were cursing. Did not go well?
Feel it in the larger universe that we have here
in our sports connectivity that suddenly things went awry. But
then you roll up a big thirteen thirteen run pool.

(01:48):
Someone cashed. Yeah, yeah, the Mets today. My dad always
did fifteen run pools. That was always the one I
grew up on. Thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, thirteen, that's bad luck, man, that's like, well what
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, But because it's bad luck, Yeah, but you're winning.
But I feel like you got a positivity at thirteen.
Go back and look here. You go back.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I want you to go back and look at this.
Go back and look at everybody you know that won
a thirteen run pool. What happened?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Is that a final destination? You know, in the immediate
aftermath of them winning the off their ass because they
suddenly had a pile of cash.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh you did hear what happened? They fell all the
way down a roll of steps. It was terrible and
lost the money. But most of those guys, it did
not end well for them. I mean, they all live
short lives. And you know, sorosis of the liver. Okay,
it was a common element. It seemed okay.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I mean, I know I got dark, but wow, you
got really darkness. Wow. I'm like, if you want to go,
I'll play along. Sir Helper, he won the thirteen.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Run pool and your sorosis diagnosis is coming in any day.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
The diagnosis. That's a good name for a band.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeahs or no, you know, sorosis diagnosis sounds like not
a bit. It sounds like the last cut on a
heavy metal album that's like nine minutes long, and sosis diagnosis.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, Oh, it's so good. It's funny you say that
on the day we commemorate the album where one of
the great bands of all time went from seven minute
opuses to clean four and a half minute radio Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, you know, Metallica wanted to make money and uh,
you know, sell some tickets and uh hey okay the
Black album and they gave us a Wolf and Man off. Yeah, yeah,
well thirty four years ago today, right, thirty four the.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Way back in nineteen ninety one Magical's time where it
seemed like we had record release parties every week.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Going back to the last great Metallica album, all it
was all hot take you.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Leave, load and reload alone. Load Load wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Between Load and Reload and a couple of others, you
could you could cobble together one good album with lou
Reed was your one one good It was something I'll
Walk on the metal side, right, That was the album.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
What was the Witch it.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Do Do Do Do.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
What on No Wildside, No wutside, Walk on the outside,
Walk on the outside, Walk on the waldside? Okay? Was
the one with Marianne faith On Load or Reload? That
was reload?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay, I think there was reload like the Taylor Swift
thing pre pre order now.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like I did get my ordering done. Oh the way,
that first Pete Alonzo home run might have been the
cheapest home run ever. That was not aesthetically pleasing now.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
And you couldn't get a great call on it because
it was a line drive over the LAO with a.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Drive to right. It's deep that gone. Oh it's gone,
it's gone. No, it's deep. Pete has done it. It's
some record it. It's like it's gone, it's out of here. Okay,
home run, there goes? How about that? It's Homer?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
But what we are waiting for obviously look the biggest
or there's so many questions. I got a hot take
for you coming up on this. We are I don't
know how many hours we are away from the Taylor
Swift New Heights podcast dropping with Jason and Travis Kelcey.
But it drops tomorrow. I don't know if it's a
midnight drop. I don't know if it's a during the
day drop. Does it drop at six, does it drop

(05:10):
at nine? Does it drop it now? I don't know when.
But we are hours away from the most anticipated p
I would say probably the most anticipated podcast.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Seven o'clock time tomorrow night. So it drops tomorrow night,
so four hours away Pacific, so we'll have ample time
to digest it before coming out here. How long is
it gonna be?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Is this even one of those extra long podcasts where
it's it's an hour and twenty four minutes. I can't,
I can't I have time for that. Come on, man,
I don'kay. It's an hour and twenty four minute.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Po Okay, so you wait for it to be chopped
up in the nice bite size morses.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh, hopefully by seven o'clock we get But here's the thing,
all right, right now, I'll tell you exactly what we
will and won't get tomorrow from this podcast. Okay, Oh,
now we know what's happening. We know Taylor Swift's on there.
Travis Kelsey has already dropped some morsels. Hey, their relationship
a little bit, and here she is on the podcast.
They're gonna talk about a lot of things. Number One,

(06:06):
I will say this, there will be nothing on that
podcast that is not Taylor centric. Like there's not gonna
be a lot on the Chiefs, there's not gonna be
a lot of other stuff going on in football. That
could be a lot of Week one preseason, and it's
gonna be all Taylor centric. Because if Taylor Swift is
coming on this podcast, it's gonna be all Taylor Swift centric.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, talking about how she loves football, and how there
she's learning football and football related concepts that that he's
taught her, or that she's picked up from being in
the crowd some of those experiences, I'm sure. But yeah,
you play to your guest, all right, let him tell stories. Yeah,
that's why it works. You know, Jay Glazer comes out

(06:45):
with us, he starts telling stories. He forgets himself sometimes,
which when we get the really good stuff. So that's
what you need to do. Get her talking about tour
and being off the tour and whatever else you can
glean from that. I mean, he did plenty of their
photo shoots. He had there's something what was it Men's
Health or GQ or whatever the hell that was. Yeah,

(07:05):
were you dressed like he was the Highlander or Proto
or yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think with a mix, like if the
Proto got married and had a kid.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Kind of looked like you could have been from Lord
of the Rings in one photo and the next it
looks like he's, you know, looking for the quickening.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
You have to keep the ring, and you only keep
the ring by chopping the heads off of somebody else. Yeah,
there you go. See that's an entirely different loser.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Leads town match absolutely does lose his sound last man standing.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
When I said this to my what we were talking
about this is my wife said, yeah, she's gonna probably
announce her new album. She's talking about it now. The
uh uh the new album she's got coming out. It's
it's you know, supposed to be pretty good. Obviously it's
a Taylor Swift album. And she said. First she said
to me, was are there are there subscribers and downloads
down on that podcast? I go, I don't think so.
It's one of the biggest sports podcasts out there on

(07:49):
Hiatus And she said, yeah, but why is she doing
this on the podcast? Like like my my wife's thinking
that maybe the numbers aren't what you think there.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'm like, interesting, I didn't think about it. I mean,
you can claim that for a lot of when it
comes to you.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
All of a sudden, here's a new album and here
she's on the podcast. Finally it's a recording artist podcast whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
But I mean it's a season premiere, right, so season premiere,
you know you you go for the gusto we are
we are dialing it up.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Second thing, I will say, yeah, there will be a song.
I think we'll get a song, but we'll get part
of a song.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Will she talk over. We'll get part of a song,
and she'll.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Talk over at least half of it. It'll be like,
here's a song. They'll play it and then after, you know,
so people can't just realize have it. They will rip
it and keep it with not paying any money for it.
They will you'll hear like half of the song. No,
you'll get the teaser trailer.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean, they might give you the full song and
then put it up and then put it up on
the different because now you can get all the downloads
off it. Okay. Look, they're already trumpeting how how highly
downloaded and viewed and listen to this podcast. Okay, So
she could do the same thing with the first single

(09:01):
off the new new album. All right, we're gonna give
you You're Thirsty as hell here. I can see that now,
the big thing. And then you'll wait until October when
for the rest of the right right ships that's yeah,
it's a waste to go man to have this, and
we're gonna have an album and talk about it. When's
it come out? You know, a couple of months? Really,
two more months? Brilliant it's about dating a loser. We

(09:23):
went through this last night.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I remake Loser by Beck and that's the first song
off the album Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I did like the mashup of taking a couple of
Taylor Swift songs, uh, interspersed with footage from last night
and soho the horror movie that starred Anya Taylor Joy
or she's in one scene dancing around. So then you
had Taylor Swift mashed up with that. It was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
We lost a super Bowl because we couldn't beat Okay,
so here's the other thing right now, think about it. Okay,
the last great podcast that we've spent time I'm talking
about that said all kinds of number marks we can't pla.
Shannon Sharp became a multi zillionaire over his Club Shashay
podcast with Kat Williams, right, all the big stuff about

(10:10):
a year and a half ago. Right, that podcast was
with Cat Williams and he was broken.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
He was trying to shake down Chad Johnson. Six grand.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, ninety million downloads for that podcast, ninety million for
Cat Williams. Man, I mean, come on, I know we
had stuff to say that was like whoa, but Cat
said Williams stuff Man HADDJ, The Cat Was in the
Cradle and the Silver Spoon, the Little Boy Blue downloaded
the podcast to listen to it wherever you get your

(10:39):
podcasts from.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But like that is a great example. When you say
ninety million downloads, that sounds like a fugazy number to
me's I mean, well, one in four Americans down all downloaded, guys, right,
all all that?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well, no people download it more than once to listen
to it again in a second and third time. So
I think all down. I think all podcast numbers are insane.
They are all juiced up somehow. There's it's it's not
an equal playing field, like if you want to spend
the money to juice up podcast numbers and everything else. Okay,
you know there's there's there's ways to do that.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Right or you can just download ours right now, Yeah
you didn't do downland right there?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Or watch us on YouTube. So ninety million is that number? Okay,
ninety million, ninety million downloads of the Cat Williams Shannon
Shart podcast. I very definitively can say this podcast will
have more downloads than that. Oh yeah, no, this will
be blown This will blow past the ninety million download mark.
Of Cat Williams, because number one, it's so anticipated where

(11:37):
the Cat Williams thing was one of those all of
a sudden, Hey, look what's going on. This is crazy,
Look at what's happening on this podcast. People started listening
to it and going back to it.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Begain.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
But this is such anticipation for unless something happens and
oh hey the internet has broke because you know, so
many people wanted to get this tomorrow. But I don't
see there being anyway Taylor Swift with with being, you know,
on a podcast that potentially you're going to have debuted,
and here she is gonna talk about her relationship in
public for the first time with Travis Kelce, Like, whoa,

(12:06):
this is an insane pop culture moment that we get
once every ten years. I think in the I think
this is gonna pass ninety million. Easy to be one
of those movies where it's like, hey, all of a sudden,
it's the most highest grossing movie of the summer and
it's past movie X in you know, two weeks and
it's and it's steaming towards five hundred million, will make
a billion dollars globally, Like not only is it gonna

(12:28):
is it gonna go past ninety million? I wouldn't be
surprised after the first week or two. We're talking about
one hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty million downloads.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, I mean across the globe.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Now, across the globe, because Taylor swifted bigger than Kat
Williams across the globe.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
You're you're talking now these download But did she yell
at Travis kelcey enough to rededicate himself to football? That's
the real that's the billion. He even said. He even said, Hey,
my TV career, my my NFL G got into that,
do you think not? Not like we didn't make that point, Frostburg,
What are you worried about the chief? He's lasting about you?
It's not a Nightheart podcast. Who the hell cares.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
He's been He's been bad since since he's been with
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Don't you want that to be garbage? Here? Put the
numbers in perspective, though, in the echo chamber that is
the Twitter verse. You got over a million views for
the little teaser they put out nearly twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Not not only it will blow pass ninety million, blowpass?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
You want to just go full Sandler since he's part
of the Sailor universe. So there it is.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
There's your first Bowl prediction of the night. Well past
ninety million. Maybe in the end it might double it.
I don't know how bold it might double it. No,
I don't know she's a double it. Yeah, but to
double to double that podcast, to double it, I mean
Cat Williams.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, No, you're gonna crush that.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I mean when I say when I like Cat William Cailliams,
I always think of William Cat, the greatest American hero.
That's the person I know that expelled, you know, smelled
that Oh cat Ka Okay, that's great, Yeah, it's all right.
That's an outstanding But I'll tell you blow pass it.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
You might find some entertainers and some other forms of
media that spell it cat. Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well, the Cat Denning's podcast, that's the that's the next one.
I'll listen to listen to. Can is part of the
universe that could be entertained. Cat Steven, Doja Cat. I'll
listen to Doja Cat. Sure, sure, sure, ally, one hundred
percent all the same butt.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I appreciate about x ray Cat. What's that? X ray
Cat's a thing you just wake up.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah no, X ray Cat's a thing, dude, The Mets
haven't one in a week? Man, You think I have
time for other stuff?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Come on, Yeah, in your stadium is so crappy. They
ran out of fireworks. That's one of the greatest announcements
ever made in game. Though. Yeah, no, the Mets are
out of pirate tech. Weren't expecting to hit six home
runs the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
No, no, no, the Mets ran out of pyrotechnics because
there were too many home runs tonight, including two by people.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Don't have any more pyrotechniques. They put up a note
on the jumpbotron to apologize to fans that we're looking
for more colors, so you'll have to go see them
by other means.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
In two weeks, one hundred and fifty million downloads. Taylor Swift,
Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Maybe in a week.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Maybe a week.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
You're really fixated on between the pre order and I
like those I like those stuff very creepy.

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When you become a franchise as all time leader and
home runs even though it's a line drive home run
over the fence and right center field, you get to
be the play of the day.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
And Pete drives won at deep right center field headed
back for the wall.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Bear.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
What is home Private Iceberg peters of the most prolific
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
A home run on my own private, I sburg, my
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Gary Cohen on the call'st call.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Though it is a good call, it's a pretty hit
a real job for for what was a question. I mean,
he would have looked foolish if we been landing on
the warning track. Or there's a drive invoking shades of
Harry Carey from all those years. Drive t blaff field
way back, Dunstan catches at the edge of the infield.

(19:16):
Toy cow toy. Uh No. I mean, look a big
night for being the Mets finally win a game. I
mean really losing a miserable month teams in New York.
I love some history.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I love stuff like this, but again, my first thought
was we better win this bleeping game. Like I am
done with the silliness of all that. We better win
this bleeping game and the Mets one. So okay, Oh
he did make it interesting for a minute. I got
no exting the top of the fourth I feel like
that line from the Wire where it was I think
it was with a slim Charles who said, there's no history, man,

(19:51):
There's only the street and the game and what happens
here today. And I was like, yeah, I gotta do
time for history, man, There's Alonzo and the game and
what happens here today. And that was it sounds about right, Yeah,
that's the way to live slim charlesy gets rid of
method Mes. Sorry spoiler, I spoil. But you can't worry
about what happened yesterday. I can't fix it.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, gotta move forward. No, no, look, hey, okay, Hey,
Mets win great.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I feel like for the first time I could wear
metsic like the first time, relaid two weeks and not
get stuff thrown at me, people pouring sour milk on me. No,
I don't want that. I can't have that.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
That was You's happy to do it. That was you.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Hey, Hey, just congratulations Nauji Harris being back at practice today.
Congratulations on What does that have to do with the
Mets sucking. I'm just saying congratulations on that happening.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm just not saying I gets hurt in an accident
and and you're mocking it. And I do want to
say thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Why did you wish harmone to both you and ty Shirt?
Because that was a big moment and you could have
easily played the butt fumble or the fail Mary or
something else crazy, and.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You played the ped alonzo. No, this is what do
you mean?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's just as bad. What are you talking about? You
played the ped alonzo everything was fine. He didn't troll
me when that was I liked. I dig that, okay
once in a while. All right, we can do something nice.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I like that. We're rolling together. How about you go
buy more fireworks for your stadium.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh boy, did I have a firework line that I
lay again? I'll lay off my firework punchline because you
played the play. Yeah, it all tied to get it.
I'll lay off it right there.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
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Speaker 1 (21:26):
So we have big quarterback stuff going on today, and
we have fourth string quarterback news. We have injury quarterback news.
And the big injury news, Jordan Love is going to
miss likely the rest of the preseasons now easy undergoing
procedure to repair a ligament injury to his left thumb.

(21:49):
This first reported by Adam Schefter earlier today. He had
his left thumb taped during Monday's practice. He tried to
play through the injury before he decided, you know what,
I have to have it done. Obviously not on his
throwing hand. There is some thought that maybe Love could
return to practice sometime as early as next week, but
they felt, Listen, this was the best thing to get
him back and healthy. So it's not an injury injury

(22:10):
that lingers and we're feeling good about him for the season.
So it looks like in theory, the Packers dodged a
bullet here and how they can go back to worry
about how they got pasted by the Jets on Saturday,
just pillar to post pasted by the Jets. But it
looks like they've averted disaster here, especially with Hey maybe
comes back at practice. It's his non throwing hand. They'll
find a way to make it work for the beginning

(22:32):
of the season. I don't, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I'm not that worried if I'm the Packers, yeh, I
don't know how much you would have seen him going
forward anyway, Like, even if it was one hundred percent healthy,
what's he gonna play another series or two? It's all
about getting your your reps, with your backups and everybody
up and going with the ninety seven receivers that you've
brought into camp. Still trying to figure out who the
leads are in the clubhouse. It doesn't seem like, you know,

(22:56):
we joked about the the Browns in there. Let's just
keep signing QB kind of thing. That's what the Packers
have done every other day. It's like, hey, that guy
played like, Hey, there's Will Shephard. Hey he played for Colorado. Yeah,
had him. He's like number seven on the depth chart. Now,
so let's go.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now, here's the here's the thing about Jordan, right, because
I can give you something different about Jordan Love's gonna
make you say, okay, now I understand something about Dak Prescott. Right,
So here's Jordan Love. And when this story broke and
we didn't really know the d it was, Hey, Jordan
Love is out going to miss the rest of the
preseason procedure on his on his on his finger, that

(23:35):
he got hurt on the last snap that he took
on Saturday against the Jets because he got sacked on
the play.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Well, that last nap, but that happens a lot. When
when did you get hurt?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Actually, my last one, my last run, Yeah, my last play,
my last rue, the last thing I did when happened.
So he gets hurt. Okay, that's great. Uh, you know
we the last play, but you know, like I said,
it happens. So there was a lot of all big
year for Jordan Love. Jordan Love's got to come through.
Not his great a year last year for Love, and
this is a big year, pressure year for him. And
when I started reading that, I said, you know what,

(24:07):
I don't think general NFL fans just understand who Jordan
Love is. Okay, Because first of all, his season last
year very similar to his breakthrough season in twenty twenty three. Right,
he missed a couple of games, but it wasn't as
great a year for the Packers. It didn't come out
of nowhere. There was expectations for Jordan Love last year,

(24:28):
which he kind of had the same year. Right, He's
a he's a thirty touchdown ten interception kind of guy. Right,
That's what he is throwing for thirty seven four thousand yards.
That's what he did his first year. If he played
in every game last year, it's what he would have
done last year. Right, if you just extrapolate the numbers
and go, okay, plays two more games the number of
touchdowns number what he throws per game. But the first year,

(24:50):
it was unexpected that, hey, is Jordan Love going to
be any good boy? They're really rolling the dice, getting
rid of Aaron Rodgers. What are they doing?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh wait a minute, he's really good.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
And boy that playoff game against the Cowboys, perfect quarterback rating.
We're gonna be awesome. Jordan Love is great. He gets
the big contract extension a year ago. All right, great,
we're good with Jordan Love.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Last year not as great for Green Bay, But the
season for Jordan Love was really very similar to what
he had his rookie year. It just because there was expectation,
it didn't look like it was the same kind of year,
But in reality, this is who he was.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right he didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
He had a horrible postseason game last year against the Eagles,
right when they got killed. He through three picks and
it's abstoutly crushed them. So understand that Jordan Love is
still a really good quarterback, right, like really good? Is
he an elite level quarterback? Is he something that's gonna
make everybody around him better?

Speaker 4 (25:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Could the Packers make things easier by not just saying
here's seventeen wide receivers, get chemistry with a few of them. Nah,
I could to be doing a little bit better for now.
They keep getting in weapons, which is great, But I
talk about Jordan Love's career what I've just said about
it the first couple of years, and everybody who has
an opinion about Dak Prescott says the same thing. If

(26:09):
Dak Prescott was playing outside of Dallas, it wouldn't be this,
It would be X, Y and Z. We wouldn't be
talking about Dak Prescott as much. Wouldn't be if Dak
Prescott played outside of Dallas. I'll tell you right now,
he's Jordan Love in Green Bay. They're the same kind
of quarterback. They give you the same kind of numbers,
same kind of skill set, same early part of their career.

(26:32):
That would be how we talked about Dak Prescott. That
would be his impact on the NFL. If Dak wasn't
the Cowboys quarterback, he would be Jordan Love, a guy
that got attention because he was really good. We talk
about him, but doesn't play for the Cowboys. So really,
all right, your team has to be really good to
be a top front, top shelf conversation in the NFL,

(26:52):
because that's kind of how it goes. The heritage teams
always get talked about good, better and different, the Cowboys,
the Steelers, right, it always happens but if you're really good,
all right, that's what brings you to the top. If
there's a year the Ravens aren't any good, we don't
talk about the Ravens. Ravens win the AFC North A.
We talk about the Ravens a lot, right, That's kind
of how it goes. But that's kind of with that's
the same talent level, that's the same production, that's the

(27:15):
same everything. Jordan Love and Green Bay. This is who
Dak Prescott would be if he played on a different
team and wasn't on Dallas. That would be his value,
meaning he would still get this kind of contract. He
would still get this People say, A, he's kind of
Overbaid's still get a two hundred and fifty million dollar contract.
It would still be that. Because Dak Prescott is a
good quarterback. Does his value get inflated to people in

(27:35):
flate and put more expectation because he plays in Dallas,
of course, But the bottom line is outside of Dallas,
this is who he'd be, which is still a really
good quarterback. He just gets more attention, more relevance, more
everything because he plays with the Cowboys. But you want
to know who he'd be, Oh, he'd just be a guy.
If he played somewhere else, this is who he'd be. Yeah,
he looked at Jordan Love last year. I mean his

(27:56):
numbers again, extrapolate them out. If he's all fully held
the plays all seventeen and even that you put an
astisk on because if you're really good, you get to
do a Queen's wave and sit down, as we saw
some guys get to do last year. But the other
thing they had that they didn't have in twenty twenty
three was a run game.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Josh Jacobs was fantastic. Yeah, the run game worked, and
the stats bear it out to where you didn't have
that reliance in twenty twenty three. That was a non factor.
Jordan Love was one of your leading touchdown scores as
a runner. They were so banged up at the position.
So when you look at what aj Dillon was and

(28:38):
go back to what you had with Aaron Jones before
he departed, Yeah, they weren't finding the end zones. So yeah,
it's all inflated by where you play and the expectations
commensurate with it. You know, you also had the surprise
of what Minnesota ended up being, which took some of
that away from from Green Bay and looking around going, well,

(29:00):
weren't we supposed to be the front runner in division,
you know, next to Detroit. No, that didn't end up happening.
Sam Darnold has this fantastic season and everything flows right
with the aforementioned Aaron Jones in there, who was one
of the great impact players right where we saw the
veterans show out. So yeah, you're looking at the Hallmark franchises.

(29:25):
Plus just the expectation is, all right, you've now set
your benchmark and you have to achieve to that. Wins,
wins and losses. I mean there's always that argument, are
they a quarterback stat or are they not? Right? Yeah,
and for dak.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, in certain cities it is. In Dallas, wins are
a quarterback stat. In New York, wins are in a
quarterback just quarterback stats a quarter We're starting for everything, right,
certain cities, Yes, wins are a quarterback stat.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
And the expectation in Dallas is that you were leading
them to the promised line. We're talking about the Jerry
Jones documentary, you know, owing to the greatness of thirty
years ago and some of the great quotes coming out
from EMMITTT. Smith you know, kind of looking side at
the reporters as they're asking in terms of, you know,
Jerry's impact and everything else, of trying to trying to

(30:14):
be nice about it but being realistic. And that's how
long we've been going back as America's team, even pre
dating Jerry Jones' arrival. So yeah, it's it's gonna be
in under a different microscope, no question about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean, now when you see everything everything fits together,
similar start to their careers, similar expectations, but outside of
Dallas that now you can put a face to it. Oh,
he's Jordan Love and green Bank.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Jordan Love gets no favors because he's the next and
what we're two long, long tenured quarterbacks. Like, all right,
there's your expectation. Here's a couple of Hall of famers.
Now go do that exit out about a Fresco exit.
Swallen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmon time not to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. Would a guy who's been
called the Dak Prescott of Fox Sports Radio interesting He

(31:04):
once shook hands with Stan Cronkey at midfield as well.
It's Steve the same. H Is that true? No?

Speaker 6 (31:11):
No, I rarely seen Stan Kronkey. You just for the record, we.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Have Milwaukee winning an eleventh straight ball game tonight and
Paul Skens was starting for Pittsburgh fourteen nothing Brewers.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Was the fire. Should we just head to the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Now?

Speaker 6 (31:25):
This is ridiculous? How good Milwaukee is the last couple
of months.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, I'm glad we had to run into Milwaukee. You
know this past week when no lead was safe. Well,
Skis finally gave up a run in the first inning.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
That's a first this year, right, And.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
He's terrible against the Brewers, but nails against everybody.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Yeah, against everybody else.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
It's in the ra one point seventy five, okay, four innings,
four runs allowed tonight, fourteen nothing Milwaukee the final and
the winning Brewers pitcher, Freddie Peralta, is fourteen and five.
He went six innings tonight, So the first place Brewers
record of seventy five and forty four this year now
seven and a half games up on the Cubs, who

(32:02):
were beaten five to one at Toronto. The Cub's offense
went four for thirty one with ten men left on
base in the Al East Toronto the first place team.
They're gonna still be four and a half up on Boston.
The Red Sox lead twelve nothing at Houston in the
top of the eighth, so it's looking like Houston will
be tied for first with the Mariners in the Al West.
Because Seattle has won its eighth straight game, one nothing

(32:24):
at Baltimore with a run in the first.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I'd say the trade deadline worked out well for the Mariners.
The trade deadline, I think it worked out pretty well well.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
They did a choir by the way, you know, it
was one of those acquisitions that you're referring to. At
third base during the ninth, when the closer was on
the mound and the heat at Baltimore and I don't
know if he was too busy or ready to pass out,
he asked for the trainer to come on and they
had a three minute delay just so the guy could
get a towel and a drink of water. Does this

(32:52):
happen at any other position in the world of baseball?
This was an odd stoppage, yeah, because you know, being
an athlete, if you can't continue the bat, you just
contind you can't continue it right.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Now, let's get let let's say this is not little
league softball. It's okay. Let's let's let them get a
couple of minutes. Throw usus you're in.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
A major league game. They just stopped the game so
we could.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Tale off and feel a little better. No, I mean,
no offense. We've all felt that.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
But you know, well, don't you know, Rob Manford put
the toweling off break in the rules this year, teams
haven't taken advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yeah, not going to see it in the Little League
World Series, but sure major League, Yeah, why not. The
Rockies have lost eight in a row. They're winning three
to nothing at Saint Louis, going to the bottom of
the ninth. White Socks had a rain delay early, so
they're only bottom of the sixth. But the White Sox
are leading Detroit five to one. Angels ahead of the
Dodgers four to three in the fourth. The Padres are

(33:43):
winning three to one at San Francisco, bottom of the third.
It's possible the Padres tie the Dodgers for first in
the NL West tonight, no chance. The Yankees beat Minnesota
nine to one. Aaron Judge is thirty eighth homer Kansas
City and Cleveland with wins. Cincinnati beat Philadelphia six to one,
the Phils first in the NL East five games over
the Mets, who did win thirteen to five over Atlanta.

(34:06):
That ends a seven game losing streak. Pete Alonzo with
a couple of long bawls career home runs two hundred
and fifty four that is the most in Mets history.
He passes Darryl Strawberry, by the way. In that Yankees
winch and Carlos Stanton four hits, including a homer.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
The Angels lead.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Over the Dodgers four to three going to the bottom
of the fourth inning. Now and yes, Packers quarterback Jordan
Love had surgery on his left thumb. Green Bay wide
receiver Christian Watson with a bad knee, likely to start
the season on the pup lists.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Back to you, thanks Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Or Radio Studios. Coming up next.
We had another big story out of the NFL. A
big time NFL star retired today, and then then he didn't,
and then we found out he never retired at all,
except he pretty much is retired.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's next right here, Jason using Fox.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
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Speaker 1 (35:11):
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(35:33):
show and the best does version posted right after we
get off the air. So I said a few minutes
ago a story about an NFL star who's retired.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Then it turned out it was a fake story.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
He didn't retire, Okay, but he's pretty much retired anyway.
This is a day that was for Odell Beckham Junior.
Oh h a A and it really got a lot
of people. A fake Adam Schefter account, not even a
darn Schefter. This is Adam Schefter with the one in
the middle like instead of the instead of the tea

(36:06):
like uh had a picture of Odell Beckham with his
kid looking up in Giants Stadium and saying, hey, Odell
Beckham Junior, who's played for five teams over the course
of his career, has decided to retire. All this it's
like whoa. And again the internet is undefeated. All you
have to do is look and say why did this happen?
Look and see that, Oh, Adam Schefter only has eight
thousand followers on Twitter. Huh, Okay, maybe it's not him.

(36:29):
Oh maybe, Oh it's it's a one instead of an
F for a tee. Okay, that doesn't seem right either,
But still it got out, got a lot of people, right,
and so Yahoo and they had to delete it really fast.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And again they haven't.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I think Yahoo even had a story up going, hey,
what is Odell's career? How is it underachieving? Is it
then to just get rid of it? Because oh no, no,
it didn't happen. So Odell got upset and he puts
a message out on social media saying, I am not retired.
If I am retired, you'll be the first to know.
If any buddy wishes me happy retirement, I'm gonna have

(37:02):
to unfollow you. And this is why happy retirement was
trending on Twitter because people kept saying happy retirement Odell
and getting blocked after it was over. So here's Odell
who saying, no, I'm not retired, but pretty much Odell
Beckham's retired, right did.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
You send it just? Did you send it to him
just so you could get No?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
No, no, no, no no no no no, I don't
need that. I mean, but pretty much Odell's retired, right,
Like you look at where he's at. He's never been
able to overcome the injuries and you know, the lack
of production after his third year in the NFL. Last
year was his lowest year in the NFL for games,
for output, for everything. He's at the end, right, injuries

(37:43):
have robbed him. And look and and anytime you say
injuries plus being a headache, which Odell has been in
his different spots, that's not going to add up to
a long NFL career. Right after his third year in
the league, whatever it was for him, I'm believing in
myself too much of a superstar. He was an issu
she with New York with all of his antics, and
then when he stopped being that guy, and he's stopped

(38:04):
being able to stay healthy. Guess what that's when that's
when the giant said, Okay, we've had enough, Cleveland tried
he add an okay year in Cleveland once that was,
and I'd just do an okay year like he had
a Terry McLaurin light year in Cleveland in twenty nineteen
and then not been able to stay healthy, really stay
in the lineup. And last year nine games played for Miami,

(38:27):
he caught nine passes for fifty five yards. Like it's
over for Odell Beckham, even if he's not saying it's
kind of over for Odell.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, I mean he hasn't been a factor really since
twenty nineteen, so I mean it's it's a lot of years.
So when I saw the shelfer or the chef.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Won Shelfler, Scheffler, Scottie Scheffler, Adam Shelfler, shelf shelf Life,
whatever the San Diegoans parody account was, I think it
was shellf. He even says it on there if you
click on it parody account, h Okay, nope, nope, gonna
see it.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Gotta get out whatever. It started getting retweeted by legit accounts,
as you said, and he responded as like, oh, I
thought he was already done, So, I mean, it's unfortunate
that he's one of those guys, but he had his moment.
It's been a minute, made another couple of tries, and
the fact that he keeps getting calls means teams are

(39:22):
still looking for someone some answer at wide receiver. But
that's long in the rearview mirrors.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, and look that's it when you talk about him
and his health, health not health is not really the
number one thing in all of this because it's not
like he's been limited to a handful of games, right, Like, yeah,
I got hurt in twenty seventeen with the Giants, right,
I only played four games. That was tough, But then
twelve games, sixteen games all right, seven and twenty twenty

(39:52):
fourteen and twenty twenty one, fourteen and twenty twenty three,
so he was playing.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
The majority you've seen now. Was he as healthy?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
No, did he miss some time out of the lineup,
But it's like after his third year, like that was it,
Like he could have been and should have been Jerry Rice,
Like he should have been that kind of receiver because
of what he was able to do physically and especially
on a Giants team where suddenly, whoa, He's unstoppable. Right,
It's not like the Giants had tons of great weapons

(40:20):
and Odell Beckham still being able to be guither was
somehow find his way wide up. When I think of Odell,
obviously you think of the catch. I think of Odell?
How many how many across the middle patterns he ran
deep down the field where he was not like ten
yards and find a spot this is twenty five yards
and he makes a cut on a dime and he's

(40:42):
in the middle of the field and the defensive back
is eight yards away from him. So instead of a hey,
here he comes over the middle for ten yards in
a first down, it's twenty seven yards, like like, that's
what I see that? And he should have been that guy.
And you hear all the stories. Did he love football enough?
Was he too much of a problem, too much of
a headache? Teams didn't buy into him? All of this,
But no matter how you want to slice it up,
his career should have been so much better than it was.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Five thousand yard seasons, including that final one with Cleveland
in twenty nineteen. But yeah, it's a lot of hope,
a lot of expectation and certainly when you get on
the radar for a big play, that always stands out right.
I mean, go back to you know, some of the
guys that were defensive stalwarts, that had big moments in

(41:26):
the college, like, oh, that's gonna break them down. Yeah yeah, yeah,
and then it didn't. Yeah for him, it was a
nice short run. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
We three years of of fantastic play and then that
was it.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
That was it. But that's it. I mean that that's
a career for most NFL guys.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Exit out about a Fresco exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith
Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, Guess who's still a fourth string quarterback?

Speaker 4 (41:51):
What?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
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I mean it the Little League World Series. It is
long time MLB network insider. He's on Twitter at John Morosi.

(42:38):
It is the Pope, John Paul Morosi. What's happening, Bud?

Speaker 4 (42:40):
How are you outstanding? My friends? I was in New
York last night. I was actually at Yankee Stadium for
the Yankees and the Twins. I know that Pine Alonso
made some Mets history tonight for a team that, by
the way, I want to make sure I lead with
the positivity. Jason. Yes, New York Mets as of now
tonight now still still are in possession of a National

(43:06):
League wild card spot, albeit the third of three. But
they are in the dance for now, two games ahead
of the Cincinnati Retch.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Now you know, and you can tell me this. You
can tell Sternsy my reaction because when when he hit
that home run, right, you think I'm full of Hey, he.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Passed Daryl Strawberry. It's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I think about my life and I'm a teenager when
Strawberry was so good. No, right away, I said now,
we got to win this game. Let's not blow this
bleep and league like, that's my reac Alonzo, it's the
home run I celebrated for about half a second ago.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
We got to win this game, man, we can't. It's
five to one. We got to win this well, and.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Let's point out and I'm sure this has been covered
very adeptly on the Fox Sports Radio studio updates, but
the final core was thirteen to five in favor of
the Mets. They kept hitting throughout sixteen hits runs. I
do know that you have you have already made some
suggestions to me. We are frequently texting. You've got an

(44:09):
idea about you wanted to make sure that we saw
McLean and Sprote. Ideally, you wanted the three probable starters
for the series to be Sprote, McLean, and Jonah Tong
the prospects, so you wanted all three of them up.
It didn't quite happen that way, but the Mets nonetheless
a very important win. And I was able to speak

(44:29):
with Justin before the segment started working on the He
really thinks that Conford Oh should play more often. There's
a lot of there's a lot of conversation right now,
both of you guys just kind of bosted up your
confidence a little bit.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Well, let now, now we gotta call it like it is.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
When when I said to you that text, who I
really wanted this series was, I said, sever Kuzman Gooden,
that was the guys I wanted for this series, but
you know he can't get them out here.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
And and John Matt Black, John who, by the way,
John Matt I always have great things to say about
John matt Lack. He was the Tigers minor league pitching
coordinator when I first started covering pro baseball more than
twenty years ago. And so John matt Lack, as you

(45:15):
know as many of our listeners, though, one of the
great New York Mets starting pitchers. Ever, he was always
so gracious and courteous in returning my calls when I
was just a twenty one year old who just had
all kinds of questions about everything in the world, and
he was very patient with me. And I will always
thank John matt Lack for that.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Oh that's so nice.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
So there you go. We got positivity of the Mets
with a win, and you're talking about the Michael Confordo
angle many angles here in Los Angeles to run with
the Dodgers, that nine game lead evaporating as it has,
and just trying to find answers in some level of
consistency JP. What could Dave Roberts do to what can

(45:56):
he pull out of his hat?

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Well, then the question I right down, Mike, is actually
the offense, and that, to me is the big issue.
The rotation is getting better. You think about now the
return of Snell Glass. Now they're expecting big things from
down the stretch. Youm Moto in many ways has been
their most consistent starter from the start of the season,

(46:21):
and now Kershaw's looked really good. But I think that
the big question now has to do with the lineup,
and I really think overall, I know we're talking about
what they could do to get more out of Confordo
in that lineup spot. They at least were able to
win a weekend series against the Blue Jays, who have
been one of the hottest teams in Major League Baseball. Yes,

(46:41):
I know they're tied right out tonight with the Angels,
and yes, I know it wasn't necessarily a great start
for Shian, But in general, I do think there is
still a lot to like about this lineup. Maybe the
one thing you would say, and again it's on display tonight,
just too at the menascoring position that they they are
maybe not cashing in at the same level of the

(47:02):
same rates of plating runs and they've got opportunities. I
still like the general structure of the of this lineup
with Otani at the top. Of course, Bets has started
to come alive a little bit. Obviously for the year,
his numbers won't look that's like, but he has been
better of late. Will Smith has put together I think,
a phenomenal year all the way around. But I do

(47:25):
agree with the critique that the bottom part of the lineup,
even with a couple of hits from Rushing today including
a homer, the bottom part of the lineup is not
quite as potent as it was at this time last year.
You just look at the bottom three right now, it's
confordo with batting one to eighty seven, freelim batting one
ninety four, and then Rushing batting two o two. It's

(47:45):
just it's not the same fearsome one through nine that
we saw one year ago. And for that matter, Nora
is the Yankees lineup at that same level. So I
think you consider how just how much opportunity there is
is we're talking right now as much about the Brewers,
the Mariners, the Padres as we are about the Yankees

(48:07):
and Dodgers, and I think on some level in the game,
that's help me. It's certainly it's a it's a pretty
powerful counter argument to those that thought, based on last
year's World Series that a Dodgers the Yankees rematch was inevitable.
Let's be clear about it, it is not.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I know you're getting set to broadcast from Williamsport, which
is going to be so much fun for you. Are
you more excited about Williamsport or Padres Dodgers series this weekend?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Just between us, off the record, Padres Dodgers, but that's
the series, and listen. As much as we would love
to be able to reconfigure the schedule on the fly,
I mean, listen, Met's Mariners is a good matchup for
this weekend, and I'm excited to see both teams. But

(48:56):
I would kind of like to to see if we
could fly in the Dodgers and and then put that
really contentious match up in front of the kids and
then and then say basically, okay, everybody, no fights tonight,
no clearing the benches tonight in front of the kids.
We can't do it. Uh, it'd be a good good
reminder of that. But listen to Padres and the Mariners.

(49:18):
They both played really well since the deadline. And I
like that. I like that the teams that were aggressive
had been rewarded for it, and it certainly puts together
a pretty powerful argument to to GMS and the team
president and the owners that that the players really do
feed off of that energy. So, uh, good autumn for

(49:38):
being aggressive, and and credit to those two teams in
particular Seattle and San Diego for putting together some impressive
runs here now in the month of August.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
So are we going to get our Aaron Boone outstring,
because then they're wearing bags on their heads in the third.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Level now, JP, I know, I was there last night,
talked to Aaron. He didn't seem he didn't seem many
more stressfully normally does. And I think that's really a
good thing. That's that's the important thing for the Yankees.
The reasons why they are not leading the division. Aaron
Boone is not is not the one to blame it.

(50:14):
In my opinion, there are a number of issues going
on there. I do think that the return of Stanton
and the home runs last night and tonight, it's just
he's really important to them. But when Stanton is in
the lineup, when he's homering, it's a different team. And
Volpi got it, got it on the act tonight too.
Warren Tish really well, lasted another good start tonight for Rodin.

(50:37):
That's it. They just have to get deeper in games.
And so if they keep playing the way they played
the last couple of nights, and again it's against the
Twins team that's sold off with the deadline, I get it.
But to me, the important thing is consistency and stability
in the rotation. And just talking to Aaron yesterday, it
sounds like he believes they're a lot closer in that

(50:59):
rook guard and they've been in a while, and so
I'm willing to let this thing play out and listen,
if they haven't made a change of manager yet, and
certainly he's under contract well beyond the end of the season,
If they haven't made a change yet, I would have
a hard time thinking that they would do that in season.
Maybe the chance would be there if they missed the

(51:19):
playoffs entirely, but I think it internally, they still seem
pretty pleased with the work that Boone is doing, despite
the up and down result over the last month plus.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
See but here, here's the thing, John Paula is I
look at it this way. If the Yankees don't make
the playoffs, underachieve, they're going to fire him at the
end of the season. Right, it's been eight years no championships,
which you know they got rid of Joe Tory a
lot faster and he won four. I maintain that if
the Yankees get to a point where they fall two
three games out of the wildcard, right, if they fall

(51:49):
two three games out of the wildcard, that would happen,
and they would replace Boone just as a final break
glass in case emergency thing. This is the last thing
we can do to try to keep this sea he's
on track, because why wait till the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
If we're going to.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Miss the playoffs, then do something we're going to do anyway,
Whereas hey, maybe this is what we can do. We
can jar the team for the last five six weeks
of the season. That if if that happens for the
Yankees and suddenly there are a couple of games. On
the outside looking in, I can see that happening.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
It's it's possible. Listen, anything is possible. I I still
don't see it as being that likely. And and part
of the answer, part of the reason is who are
you going to replace him with?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Uh, Derek Peter Jeter has been critical of Jeter in
for five weeks.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
I I do not think that there is much of
a chance at all that that Jeter would be the
manager of the New York Yankees now. If at some point,
and I don't think it's imminently, If at some point
far into the future, they were to look at the
possibility of him being at that at that higher level,

(53:00):
club president, something of that, of that type, maybe maybe
I would see him in that role. I just don't
think managing is what he's going to want to do now,
the one Yankee icon. It's not going to happen now
because he's got an important job with the team that's
in their division. But I could see at some point

(53:22):
in time in the future, not now, but eventually Don
Maddingly managing this team at some point. I'm not saying
it now, but at some point I could see him
being the manager of the Yank He just because he's
managed multiple stops. I think that he's never really had
a chance to consistently have a winning team. He was

(53:45):
there with the Dodgers kind of in the early phase
of it. I just think that he would have a
very very special connection and bond of the fan base there. Again,
I don't think it's going to happen imminently, but it
wouldn't surprise me if at some point in his career
maddenly becomes a Yankee again. And I don't think it's
gonna happen now, but I do wonder sometime down the line.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
What's funny is you know, you're talking about the teams
that went for it at the trade deadline and being
rewarded as such. I'm going back to my hometown. Obviously,
the White Sox are what they are, and Coolson Montgomery
is fine and hitting home runs, and that's exciting. On
the North side, I get a lot of notes from
friends going why did we do something? What are we doing?

(54:31):
What happened to Pete crow Armstrong? Why isn't Kyle Tucker
still a superstar? And it's all just kind of melting
down while you watch the Brewers just falling to win
after win after win.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
I think it's I struggle to say this. We're not
even halfway through August, but it's difficult for me to
imagine a world in which the Cubs win this division.
It's amazing that I'm saying this based on the fact
that around the fourth of July, I was feeling like, man,
this team is they're the best team maybe in all

(55:04):
baseball that they look that good. But you're right, this
this period of time has really revealed the extent to
which PCA was with the driver, because since he's been slumping,
they have not been the same team, and Tucker's been
just okay with PCA. The thing that even when he
was going good, we kept hearing and I think it

(55:25):
was a fair critique. The guy just swings so much
and he's not selective, and at some point you go
around in the league once or twice, people are going
to figure that out. And I just think that he's
been maybe whether it's said he's tired, whether it's that
he's a little jumpie and just not getting good pitches hit.

(55:47):
But when pitchers realize they don't have to throw you
a strike to get you out. You're not going to
see many strikes, and he's going to have to show
that he can make that adjustment or else. What we've
seen the lastst couple few weeks will become probably the
norm for the rest of the season. He's still talented
enough to make the change, but it's going to be

(56:08):
a fairly dramatic shift and approach from what we have
seen to this point because the free swinging ways of
Pete grow Armstrong no longer are as charming as they
were back in April and May.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morose.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
You see him on MLB Network, seehim at Williamsport the
League World Series.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Now, now I have a dare for you. You normally
accept every dare I give you.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
So I have to let me know.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Well, okay, here what they got.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I want you to interview one of the pitchers at Williamsport,
and I want you to say, in the middle of
the interview, here, let me show you how to throw
a spitball.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Ah. I do believe I would need to go back
into the room book to see if the spitball is
expressly banned by the laws of the game at the
Little League I wanted to go see the Little League
Constitution there in beautiful Williams for that's going to be
on my itinerary. I love that trip. I've been very

(57:07):
fortunate to be there every year that MLB has played
a Little League Classic, so I can't wait to go
back there for I guess little now be a ninth time.
So super excited about it.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Ah, have fun, look forward to talk to you man.
Enjoy We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the best.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Same money a night there goes the great John Palmrosi
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