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August 16, 2025 • 40 mins

Jason Smith feels embarrassed about the outcome of the Michigan cheating scandal:

"This is why I laugh about this, I am so embarrassed for College Football...it was a big deal and something should have been done and this took three years all for this?!"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side hour to The Jason Smith Show
with my bass friend Mike Harmon. Because sisaw, Halloween's a
bigger lit town than being a Mets fan.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Opening And here's the first bitch and the season's over.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hey, hey, it took till August. Okay, right there, the
Mets suck. Gotny Moore, Got you Moore, Mets tight shirt,
Got you Moore?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Oh you want more?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Got you Moore? Mets hell?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Alan?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Is that the Mets son?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
What's the deal with airpla?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
That's all I was waiting for. Because still this is
now two years and you're so lazy you couldn't even
get the bite the bite from the office and just
put it on your board. You just keep going to
YouTube and playing the version that goes into the next clip,
which is a Seinfeld.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
No, you just how dare you?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because I'll tell you I've seen that episode of the
Office when Michael says that it doesn't go to the
Seinfeld No, that does.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I think it does to the original one. I think
you've got an edited one.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Smith. You want more, Jan says. Jan says Michael. I'm
I'm not. I'm not gonna tell him that. I'm not.
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm not gonna tell them Jason punk another one.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
But I just did, okay, Oh, if you're right, Yeah,
I was gonna say, did you feel the pouch that time?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Underwears on? Right? I do? I do the instead of
the cup check, where you would have to you know,
in literally the umpire would go buy and go cup
check and you'd have to knock on your cup to
show and he'd have to know. That's how we would
check it out. No, it's not. I think that's actually
a really good way, because you know, you don't want
to say, hey, here's your cup. You can't, you know,

(02:16):
you want to and.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Your cup just air cup cup.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
So they were just they you knock it like that's
what I'm doing. I'm just not okay, yep, up, got
the got the pouch underwear is on the right ways,
a little bit on the right way.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
But you know what's funny is they the fourteen of
sixteen losses. It really takes on a whole different gravity
and weight. When Steve de Sager says it.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Your cup's just a big old yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah. When de Sager says, and the Mets they have
lost fourteen of sixteen, my goodness. Still they lead the
Wild Card by a half game over the Reds, who
blew an eight one lead tonight against the Red thirteenth
in a row, right there, But that is the lead?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
What what what's the leading to do a car to playoffs?
Because you're not going there.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Fourteen out of sixteen lead. The lead, I will say,
is just watching Manny Machado try to make a play
at third base. That was incredibly embarrassing. Uh, the Dodgers
trying to bunt a runner over to third base in
the in the first inning. In the bottom of the
third inning, rather, Rojas pops it up and Machado comes

(03:25):
in and dives for the ball. And it's not like
he's got a really fully extend and dive, but he
dives and the ball hits off the heel of his glove,
it goes all the way to the dugout instead of
a sacrifice bunt. The Dodgers load the bases, they get
two runs in and on Otani ground out, So now
it is a two to one Dodger lead over the Padres.

(03:47):
As the Padres back in the top of the fourth inning. Boy,
I mean really, you say, oh, yeah, he dove that,
but that really should have been a play that Manny
Machado should have made. Like I know he does for it,
but he should have made that play. That was the
tryhard play.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, I'll show you I don't I dog it out here.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Look at this.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, how about one?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
You don't get it done?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Johnny Hustle, Johnny Hussel. Hussele tried and then Johnny Hustle,
I didn't try it all, and I was with the Dodgers.
Now what No, See, that's why I don't hustle, because look,
look at what happened. I could I should have just
caught it on a bounce and thrown at the first
base for the out. Right, don't be billy bean, don't
be a hero. Pick up the ball and throw it
the first base. Now, I'm not gonna die. I'm not
gonna try anymore. You see what happens when I try?

(04:27):
Not gonna do it? Uh So Dodge again. Dodge lead
the Padres two to one, top of the fourth inning.
Now look a little bit more on. The biggest story
of the day in football has been the twenty million
dollar fine levy to Michigan for their part in the
Connor Stallions sign stealing scandal. Sean Moore, head coach, is
gonna get two game suspension this year for Games three

(04:49):
in games four, which is just really weird. They asked
for those games because yeah, we'd rather not have our
coach again Central Michigan and Nebraska. That's what you think
of you, Nebraska. He's also getting this for the opening
game of twenty twenty six, which right now could be
played in Germany against Western Michigan. So this we're at
least we're done with the jurisprudence of this. We're gonna

(05:11):
get two more days for Sharon Moore, two more games
for him, that one more next year. Now. Twenty million
dollar fine, right, it seems laughable. It sounds like a
big number, but it really isn't, especially when you think
of the big numbers that athletics have, that that athletic
programs have, and money they generate in revenue. But still,

(05:32):
twenty million dollars sounds like a lot. But in reality,
as soon as this fine hit most most of us
saw it and said, Michigan, how much money come a
twenty million dollars? It's got to be one hundred million
dollars if you really want to hurt Michigan. And that's
the one hundred percent, you will be one thousand percent
on that. If you ever see the athletics campus at

(05:55):
the University of Michigan. And I was just there a
month ago, right, I told you last that we toured Michigan,
so we wanted to see Michigan. And the athletics campus
is the size just the athletics part, right, I'm not
I don't mean football. I mean the athletics campus is
the size of a large university campus. Just that, just

(06:16):
the just the sports area is you you drive to
the athletics campus and the first thing you see is
the Big House and there's a huge sign with the
National Championship banner up over it. It's like, uh, It's
like remember when when when George Bush dropped that big
mission accomplished sign. It was that big in the background.
You couldn't help but look at it, like, that's what
this is, Like this big national championship sign on the

(06:38):
front of the big House. And then you drive around
and you see there's they have something for every sport.
They have a big field hockey stadium. I not not
where Hey, this is the stadium where it's field hockey
and it's tennis, and it's cross country and like the
all Purpose stadium where they do all the sports. No,
it's a it's a big thirteen thousand seat field hockey
stadium that went through renovation a few years ago. They

(07:01):
only play field hockey here. It's a big stick that
most other schools would say, we could play football here.
Right Like, ever, we're going to visit cal Davis, you know,
a few months ago, going you could cal Davis could
put their football program here on the field hockey field
for University of Michigan. You realize just then. I remember
walking away going, you know, and we we talked about it.

(07:22):
I said, man, whatever, however much money you think Michigan
makes for their school or for their athletics, you got
to times that by fifty because to have this this
it was the most impressive athletics area of a school that.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I've ever got outside of Georgetown.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
My entire life. No, I'm never going there. It's always
not allowed to go within three blocks of Georgetown.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
She's getting a free ride.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, that's the only way she could go because I'm
not writing a check from here for Georgetown. There's certain
things that are not That's just silly.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
But why do I stunt her growth?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Because she can get if she if she gets us,
she gets a scholarship, she can go Georgetown. That's fine.
I'm not I'm not school. No, it's not. It's a
horrible school. It's the worst school in the world. No,
you should see. I have a list of people that
have gone there that couldn't stand going there.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
It's better than Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Really, no, No, Syracuse is not. Come on, come on,
you go to Syracuse. You're in on the ground floor
the next great football program in the Northeast. I mean,
we haven't gone to the NCAA Tournament in basketball in
five years, but still yeah, we got it going on
now in Footworld lacrosse dynasty, you can go and stay
inside for seven months in a row, I mean on once. Yeah, oh,

(08:34):
chess team is great, man, We're great chess team. Yeah yeah,
good know we win. Chess team wins. Whether we're black
or white doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what's solid, dude,
that's the board, black or white, black or white. That
we went on both sides of rhetors. You took it
down to a weird space. We went. It doesn't matter.
You make us whever. But I really I've not the athletics.

(08:58):
I mean, look, Michigan's is a great campus. I see
at Stanford's campus was amazing. There's lots of amazing campuses.
But the sports, but specifically the sports, the athletics area,
baseball stadium, at basketball it was it's so unbelievably impressive.
And it's like it's like it's like almost like a city,
Like I've not seen anything to compare to that in

(09:20):
my entire life. I I said, we walked away going, man, Michigan.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Just print money.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
It was just really funny.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Operating budget, according to all records, was nearly two hundred
million dollars a year ago, and that seems good. I've
seen a couple of other estimates that are a little
bit higher. So trying to figure out where that sweet
spot is. But let's just say it's two hundred million,
you're gonna lose ten percent. That doesn't include the money
that's flowing in. Uh right, because you're looking at the
next year and whatever is is flowing, you've got some

(09:52):
of the reductions like that. It's just a curiosity, uh
to me. You come to these decisions, and you have
a preponderance of evidence, right, the more stuff of hey,
here's all these deleted text messages, but you have no
ability to compel them because saying, hey I had to
delete them for storage. No, no, no, they're deleted off your phone.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah yeah, right, they're not gone. We we we all
know this. They they exist.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
The other dude throwing his in the water, same thing. Yes,
you may not be able to recover from that physical device, however,
uh so, Yeah, it's it's just kind of a clown show.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Here's a fine you bring that up because that that
that's that's something that I really am surprised about, right,
Like part of this the situation was the the NCAA,
they find Michigan the money and they suspense your on more.
They couldn't get enough evidence obviously to prove the case. Meanwhile,
we all saw the evidence, we all know what happened,
but they didn't have enough. And Connor Stallion says, yeah,
I threw my phone in the lake. That's where everything was.

(10:54):
They have anything backed up on a hard drive anything,
It was just on my phone.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Next to Tom Brady's phone.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah right, they tell I learned from Tom. Hey, Tom,
did it worked out for him? Like? I wonder if
it was just like in the movies where they actually
have the flip phone and they break it in half
and throw it away. But like, really, I mean I
see in the movies all the time. It doesn't matter.
They're still label to get a dump off the phone, right, yeah,
like they do that, you don't need. I mean, what
else do d Like I say, Hey, let's get a
let's run a trace on that phone. Le's get a
dump on everything on the Yeah, we have it right here.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Look, here's all the.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Pictures, here's all the next messages. We got it all.
How do we not have that?

Speaker 5 (11:25):
But that's the thing. You have subpoena power in these
crime dramas you're watching. The NCAA doesn't have that. So
if you're a quote cooperating person.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
But they don't in the TV shows either, they find
a way around. If the cop asks somebody to do
them a favor, they say, okay, that's great, and they
do them a favor and it worked out. I see
it happens all the time.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
But that's if you don't want to go through the
proper channels and you're trying to expedite things. Otherwise, there's paperwork. Man,
it gets bogged down unless it's priority A one.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, there is not a lot of paperwork in all
the cop movies. It would be very boring if you
if you slow it down with paper, right.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
There's always the only time the reports get referenced is
when everybody's going out for the celibratory end of episode
beer and the one guy says, I got to stay
behind and catch up on my fives.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I drew the short straw. Hey
have a beer for me. Guys, All right, that's great,
but I mean, really, I mean he threw he threw
his phone in the lake. There's no other way. Everything
else was taking There was no other way to get it,
no other way to get any kind of evidence, like
like this was such a a fly by night investigation.

(12:31):
Into something that. Look, they were calling each other the KGB,
and there were so many people that were involved, and
you're telling me that Connor Stallion's a guy who was
playing at being you know, the rogue KGB operator taking
over Michigan. This guy out smarted the NCAAA, all the lawyers,
everything else. Because I threw my phone away. Really like that,

(12:52):
I feel, I just feel the nca is even more
neptev for thinking about that that this guy, this Connor
Stallion's right, who was wearing a wig and I'm and
getting video and and this this whole thing that didn't
really have anything official with the with the Michigan Athletic
department the football team, but it was there and it
was involved so many people. They all found a way

(13:13):
to outsmart the NCAAA. Like really like wow, I really
like the NSA must have the worst investigators in the
world if that's the case, or they really didn't care.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
They half asked it all the way through. Just give
it some time, give it some lip service, and we'll
move on, you know, for more. He gets a couple
couple more games. Everybody shrugs, because you'll have celebrity play
callers in those first and second halves auction. Look, they
might auction those off and they can raise the twenty
million to thirty million dollars to come back that way.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
No bowl band, no nothing.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
So you know, everybody else around the Big ten's looking going, Wow,
now's the time to do a bunch of infractions.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
What do you all got? All we're gonna lose is
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(14:38):
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Week two, but there are big and the biggest one

(16:03):
I can't believe it because it's just ridiculous. But maybe
you saw this today, but literally, you know, we're getting
ready Little League World Series and it's in the swing
right now. We just had the Softball World Series. Now
the girls had theirs, now the boys have theirs. And
Little League put out a statement today denouncing betting on
the Little League World Series. Now, it's not illegal to

(16:26):
bet on the Little League World Series. Not many places
offer it, but you can get it online or overseas.
There's a bunch of places who still offer it. And
it turns out it is very popular. Right, It's a
popular thing to about a Little League World Series. And
before you say, oh my goodness, you're betting on twelve
year olds, it's not. You gotta understand because looking at

(16:49):
this from a perspective of a coach, a youth coaching
coach softball for a long time, is I understand how
appealing it is because, quite honestly, if you have a
team with a great pitcher, like I know, who's gonna
win that game, right, It doesn't matter what the rest
of the team looks like it does. If you have
a really good hitting team and you have you know,

(17:11):
your pitcher is okay, okay. But if you face a
team and there's somebody out there with someone that throws
seventy five or eighty miles an hour, has a devastating curveball,
guess what. That team is gonna win the majority of
their games. They're gonna likely win a championship. And gamblers
don't look at situations like this as saying, hey, it
would be fun. I think this is how it's gonna go,
and I'd like to bet this team. Gambles want to say, hey,

(17:33):
what's a sure thing? Right, Well, it's sure thing that
this team from from Nebraska, or this team from Iowa,
or this team from New York, whoever it is, Hey,
they have a great pitcher, they have the next Money
Davis or whoever it is they have somebody. Yeah, they're
gonna win all their games. Yeah, let's load up on there,
because they're playing a team that I can tell is
not very good. The way they got in, I could

(17:55):
see where they're at and how good a team they are.
This team is loaded and this is gonna be an
easy maker for me. Like that's how gamblers look at
stuff like this. So, I mean, really, it's awful to
bet on twelve year olds and it's a terrible thing
to do. It's awful, and I can't believe that people actually,
you know, there's some books that still allow it. But
looking at it from the gambler's perspective, Yeah, to say

(18:15):
it's to the shock being, I can't believe it's a
popular No, I understand exactly why it's popular.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
No, it's like anything, if there's an angle to be had,
a dollar to be made, people are gonna look at it, right,
no matter how quote pure and the sanctity of the
game be dammed. Now, no US based sportsbook offer it,
so that that's not we haven't crossed that bridge yet.
But I was looking at a quote from a guy

(18:42):
off and bet online ag that they're in Panama. Any quote,
the Little League World Series, exciting tournament. Our customers love
to watch. We get requests from them every year to
offer odds. Okay, cool, They've offered odds each of the
last four years. He added this, We'll take more bet
on these Little League games that we will on any
professional tennis or soccer match over the next two weeks.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah. I mean, look, and this is Bavada and bet Online.
These are pretty big, you know, online and offshore companies
that do this. I mean you think about obviously it's
never gonna be as much as football or base by anything.
But but if you're looking for a way, I think
we could make money on this because I because this
picture is that good. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna completely do that.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
But yeah, again, wherever there's a dollar to be made,
people are gonna go to try to find it, they're
gonna try to exploit it, and they're gonna try to
move it on. I mean, we've been talking about a
lot of would be scandals. We talked with Todd Furman
last night. You can find the podcast up wherever you
get your audio. But a couple of the pointed questions,
you're right as part of the discussion when we had
Michael Porter Junior talking about, Hey, you could hook guys

(19:47):
up with some you know, by suddenly pulling up lame
in a game and hitting your under and things like that.
I mean, there's there's plenty of ways that it works out.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Now.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
I thought it was funny as you set up the story, though, Jason,
I be remiss if I didn't mention you brought up
Money Davis, who threw out a first pitch the other day.
That's good recalled by you. And then you brought and
tried to salvage some of your relationship with the state
of Nebraska you openly mocked as we talked about the

(20:17):
Michigan story a little bit earlier. So that is that
is really a way to bring it back? That was
that is that is really a sure we gave you
some love there you know the.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Other thing and I will and I will tell you this, right,
if you're thinking about gambling, first of all, don't do it.
But secondly, I want I want to say this because
maybe this will get people to stop doing it. As
someone who coached softball at a pretty high level, right,
I told you the little league that we played at,
they just went to the Little League World Series this year.
They lost in the I think they lost in the
third game. They won the Western Championship. It was awesome.

(20:47):
I coached in the tournament. You know, we lost in
the End of States the last couple of years there,
which was one which was if we got to the
next level, it was one level away from from playing
in the Little League World Series. Is I want to
say this is there a again? There are very few
absolute rules that I can tell you from the beginning
of when I started coaching until the end of when

(21:08):
I started coaching, when when I stopped coaching in softball
and in soccer as well. And one of the biggest
things I will tell you is that no matter how
good a player is, no matter what you think is
gonna happen, you never know how a twelve year old
kid is gonna wake up on any particular day. You
have no idea like you think. Is the coach and

(21:30):
as the parents, Hey big game tomorrow, We're ready. But
let's just say you know a kid is fighting with
their friend, or let's say someone you know their boyfriend
broke up with them or girlfriend broke up with them.
You don't you don't know how anybody how a kid
is gonna wake up on a certain day, maybe just
wake up a day going yeah, it's a really big deal.
But yeah, I'm tired. I'm tired. Really, I really want

(21:51):
to go play that video game that I've I've been
playing that I can't stop playing. I want to even
gonna play that Royal Match that I keep getting all
these ads for, Oh help, King Robert. Royal Match. Royal
Match is great. You never know how a twelve year
old is going to wake up, and you don't know
how they're gonna deal with the pressure. You don't know
how they're gonna deal with playing on television anything else.
Like I've seen it. I've seen I see it in

(22:12):
every tournament. I see great players who go through and
I see them in the in the in the regionals,
and they're terrific, and they get the Little League World
Series and all of a sudden, whoa, whoa, this is
a really big deal. I see teams in the semi
finals that look like they're world beaters. But then here's
the final with a chance to go to the Little
League World Series on the line, and all of a sudden,

(22:33):
why is your pitcher hitting seven people? In the first
four innings. Why is this picture's given up one run?
The entire run of regionals and States and now sud
they hit seven people in the first five innings of
a game. This is what you never know how a
kid is going to wake up on any given day.
Trust me when I tell you that one of the
few blanket truths for the beginning of when I coach

(22:55):
all the way to the end, that I subscribe to
you from the start to the finish.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
But Jason, I mean, that's something we talk about in
professional sports all the time, right, How was a guy responding?
What's going on? What's circling in the background? Guy's not
hitting well? I mean, certainly we're based in Los Angeles.
It's been a lot of the speculation of what's gone
on with Mookie Betts all year now. He's been hitting
well the last couple of weeks. But before that, right,

(23:19):
you had the illness before Japan funk moving him around
the lineup, moving them in the field and trying to
figure out, you know, what's hitting well. Then they travel
to Boston and you find out, you know, there's ill
family members. How much of that is weighing on his
mind at the plate and in the field and all
of those things, right, and we just go down the
list plenty of those. I remember Frank Thomas suddenly couldn't

(23:41):
hit the broadside of a bar, and a guy who
was a masher forever you found out he was going
through some personal strife. It's like, okay, it kind of
makes sense now, right, And eventually that all comes out.
But in the interim, yeah, you're going day to day
and you know, maybe they've got a test and now
they're in the middle of summer. I haven't gone back
to school yet in terms of the Little League Old series,
but you know, there's a lot of things and a

(24:03):
lot of pressures that are flowing.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Now.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
I love the statement, though. Let me just give you
this Little League's the trusted place where children are learning
the fundamentals of the game and important life lessons that
come with having fun, celebrating teamwork, and playing with integrity.
And no one should be exploiting the success and failures
of children playing the game they love for their own
personal gain. Now you know my general sense, I look

(24:27):
a lot of greatness in sports and sports endeavors. Altruism
is a dangerous word that we can add on to
all this stuff because everybody associated with the league is
trying to win or trying to establish themselves in one
way or another. So yes, there's some personal gain that
you're getting out of all of this in the process.

(24:50):
So don't try to just hey, because you're making an
extra dollar over there, you're the scum of the earth, Like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well?

Speaker 5 (24:58):
I think if we win, Regional can get over to
this team and coach them.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Exit out bout of Fresco, Exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. We got more coming up in ninety seconds.
But first, a man who's been called the Manny Machado
of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Wow, cuz he step back right now.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Thank he doesn't hustle either. It's Steve, the same.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
Johnny hustle here in his Dodger days, that long Dodger
career that he had. The Dodgers are leading to to
one over the first place Padres in the bottom of
the six. Excellent outing from the veteran Clayton Kershaw. He's
six and two this year, allowed just a solo homer
and only one other hit in his six innings. Of
work game in the bottom of the six two to one.

(25:44):
La Padres for the moment lead the NL West by
a game over the Dodgers. Pitchell Mike pitcher Michael King
of the Padres is on the al with knee inflammation,
so Wandy Peralta was the opener. Was taken out in
the second inning tonight. There are two other late games.
A's in the fifth lead the Angels four to one.
The race at Giants game is tied six to six.

(26:05):
In the top of the fourth. The Yankees have won.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Final was four to three at Saint Louis Luis Hill
five innings to get the win. Yankees were up for
nothing in the third. The Yankees are a game and
a half up on Cleveland now for the last AL Wildcard.
Guardians were shut out at home two nothing by Atlanta.
Guardians offense went two for twenty nine. Braves outfielder Ronald
Acunya was activated off the IL today after a string calf.

(26:30):
He went oh for three with a walk. Houston closer
Josh Hater, with a strange shoulder, is shut down for
about three weeks. Houston got shut out at home seven
nothing by Baltimore, and the winning pitcher for the Orioles,
Brandon Young was oh to six this year, but tonight
had a perfect game until two outs in the eighth
when he allowed an infield single. Houston's offense went one

(26:51):
for twenty eight in the loss. Houston is the first
place team in the AL West, but just a half
game over the Mariners, now, who beat the Mets in
New York eleven and I and cal Raley with his
forty six homer he has one hundred RBIs The Mariners
first baseman Josh Naylor.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Was out tonight due to illness. The Mets have.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Lost fourteen of sixteen. Francisco Lindor did have two homers
in defeat. Philadelphia won six to two at Washington Kyle
Schwarber it is forty third homer, but Phillies closer Joan
Duran left after being hit in the ankle by a
line drive. He was carted off. The first place Phillies
lead the NL East by six games over the Mets. Now,
somehow Milwaukee has won thirteen straight games ten eight the

(27:31):
final at Cincinnati to stay.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
We're losing that game eight to one, and I'm like, great,
now we're going to be looking up at the wild
Card like okay, so the Mets misery got more. We're
not making the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
It was eight one in the second inningo Red still
half game out of the last NL wild card behind
the Mets. Brewers are first in the NL Central, nine
games up on the Cubs. Here, Cubs got beaten by
Pittsburgh today Rigley three to the final with a solo
homer top of the ninth. In fact, Cubs all star
Peak Armstrong went three for three, the rest of his

(28:02):
team went three for twenty seven. Toronto, with four runs
in the bottom of the eighth, edged Texas six to five.
Toronto's the first place team in the AL East. Still
Boston is five games back. The Red Sox, with a
run bottom of the ninth, beat Miami two to one,
even though the Red Sox offense was three for twenty seven.
Detroit won seven nothing at Minnesota behind veteran Charlie Morton,

(28:24):
who went six innings. Twins offense went two for twenty seven.
It was Kansas City three to one over the White Sox.
Colorado got to win four to three against Arizona. There
are two NFL exhibitions tonight right now, halftime at Seattle
Seahawks twenty three to seven over Kansas City. Sam Darnold
started in his one series, went four for four passing

(28:45):
thirty four yards. Drew lock Off the bench has two
touchdown passes and it's twenty three to seven for the
home team. Earlier, Tennessee won twenty three to twenty at Atlanta.
The Titans were up six to three late first half.
Titans first round quarterback Cam war two of seven passing
forty two yards, most of that yardage coming on the
first pass by the way. Sunday night on Fox TV,

(29:07):
Buffalo at Chicago. No decision yet on if Bill's quarterback
Josh Allen will play. Bears backup QB Case Keenan missed
practice with a leg injury. Michigan will appeal its latest
NCAA punishment, including fines after the sign stealing scandal.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Back to you, thank you, Steve o. So looking ahead
at Week two NFL preseason, we had the two games
tonight obvious well have more in Kansas City Seattle again,
Seattle beating Kansas City twenty three to seven, this game
at halftime. Right now, there's lots of teams with things
at stake. There's players with things at stake. There's quarterback

(29:41):
and quarterback derbys, but it's really something that maybe the
guy with the most at stake is a quarterback who
is unquestionably the number one quarterback on his team. But
yet this is the life of the Chicago Bears. Yeah,
Williams is expected to play a little bit this weekend.

(30:04):
Right now, it's not known how much. They haven't really
said how much. Ben Johnson's not sure, but it's likely
going to be at least a couple of series on
Sunday against the Buffalo Bills. This is a game that's
on national TV. It's on Fox. It's a big deal.
So I would assume not that you have to do
that for television. But hey, he hasn't played yet, he
didn't play last week. I assume he's going to get
a couple of series. Maybe he gets the first quarter.

(30:28):
This is such a big game for him because you
want to tamp down the Caleb sucks and the panic
that Chicago and Bear's Nation is going to hit if
somehow Williams is not good in this preseason game. He
didn't play last week and it didn't matter. It's almost

(30:49):
like the Bear said, we found our guy, Tyson Bage
it's our guy. Look how good he is. Oh my god,
come on, but this is how nervous everybody is, how
much they're ready to jump off the Caleb Williams bandwagon.
You know what I mean. They're they're off it now,
but they're they're kind of on the edge of the
diving board with one foot on, one foot off, going Okay,
give me, give me a reason, and I'm gonna jump.
Just give me a reason. I'm gonna jump. And if

(31:10):
he has a bad game, if he if he goes
one for seven and he throws a pick or is
like two for nine and and and just you know,
doesn't look good, overshoots a couple receivers. It is absolute
panic city in Chicago. Not that things are gonna change,
because obviously Caleb Williams is Again for everybody who hates
Caleb Williams, sorry, he's gonna be the guy. He's gonna start,

(31:32):
He's gonna get the majority of the season. It's why
Ben Johnson is there. He's a number one overall pick
in the draft. He's got tons of talent. I'm telling
you he's gonna be fine. But they want to tap
down this. Hey, we want to have normal rest of
the preseason here, right, we don't want to hear about
how he had trouble throwing the ball into a basket,
you know, or throwing the ball into a net and

(31:53):
all of a sudden he sucks. But that's kind of
where it is for Caleb Williams, right, that's the big
narrative of him over the course of throughout the country
for the preseason. They need him to have a big
kid because they want to put this over. They want
to put this whole thing to bed and say, okay, great, see,
Caleb's fine, the offense is fine, Let's go forward. Now,
everything is okay. Everybody can calm a blank down for

(32:15):
what they see in practice when he throws a couple
of incomplete passes, everybody could just chill out because look,
when the game was on, when the lights were on,
he was terrific. Nothing to see here. They want to
put this story to bed so bad. They need they
need crazy. They need Caleb Williams to have a lights
out game two in the preseason. It sounds crazy to
say it, but that's the reality in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Well, it's funny. For the first time I've ever really
agreed with Ryan Poles on a public statement where he
kind of took his shots at what media has done,
particularly you know with the couple of clips that got out, particularly.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
That net miss the disaster.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
You know, what are the objectives of a drill and
you know, getting the ball out fast, whatever else. But
where they didn't help things is now they're talking about, well,
we still have a competition because we don't know who's
gonna protect him at left tackle, Like that's that's not good.
You don't have a guy that's the leader in the
clubhouse to protect his blindside.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's a problem.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
But but all of that to say, yeah, there's been
so much noise about it. Ben Johnson, we talked about
it last week. You know, bringing up Tyson bagent and
showing him some love and being effusive with praise gets
people all anxious right to want to right write the
best they can there And and Caleb's saying the goal

(33:34):
is seventy percent and four thousand yards, great lofty goals,
all the things that you want your quarterback to have,
that bravado, But when it's not matching quickly as much
of a learning curve as it is from the clown
show they had a year ago, then yeah, you got
to put something on tape that's gonna lay fears. Oh,
by the way, you're also playing Buffalo, which means, guess what,

(33:54):
Mitch Trubisky's back in town. Say what you will about Mitch.
A couple of playoff appearances, a couple of player appearances,
and a guy who was beloved in the city. You
know his play nationally and whenever people take their pot shots,
but he was a guy that the city love. Bear
stands had their love hate at times, but they loved
the guy. So all of that is swirling as they
did these joint workouts ahead of this game. So yeah,

(34:17):
he's got a lot to overcome this week, does mister Williams.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
It is crazy the pressure on a number one quarterback
who has the job. But again, welcome to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
What would you know about pressure?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Exit out? About a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon coming up next,
we have more on the big Week two in the NFL.
What quarterback derbys could be settled by this time tomorrow night.
That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmer.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Personally, that means Metts Sucking dog.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Dodgers get out of a bit of a jam. Casparis
gets a fly out to center end the top of
the seventh inning. Dodgers still lead the Padres two to one,
first place on the line in the NL West Love Board.
This game coming up in a bit. Uh. Meanwhile, as
we look ahead two week two in the NFL, right
we talk about some teams and quarterbacks that have a

(35:39):
lot at steak. We talked about Caleb Williams. Guy's got
the gig in Chicago. He's got the most in state
because he wants to stop the Caleb Sucks narrative. One
quarterback derby that we are gonna see end tomorrow and
I have a big belief this is gonna end. Is
the Colts Quarterback Derby with Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson

(35:59):
will and tomorrow night, Daniel Jones gets the start. The
plan was to have Richardson play the first game and
then Daniel Jones play the second game and start and
last week Obviously it got cut a little bit short
because Richardson got hurt, didn't see the blind side rusher
and hurt and dislocated his finger, and he was back
at practice. He's going to play Jane, Yeah, and he's

(36:20):
gonna play tomorrow right, It's gonna play me really ridiculously.
We're putting guys out there behind a backup offensive line,
which is stupid. But Daniel Jones can win the job
if he's good right. Tomorrow night is going to be
the deciding factor. If Daniel Jones plays first quarter ish good,
he gets the job. He gets because look, they're looking

(36:42):
for someone to lead the offense, and well, Daniel Jones
is not quite the downfield player that Anthony Richardson is.
He's a guy they trust more with the football, they
trust him in different situations with his experience. Anthony Richardson
still is prone to making a bad decision. He hasn't
played enough football. Now the flips. If Jones is just okay, right, Jones,

(37:03):
They'll go with Richardson because clearly, at some point both
these guys are going to play right. It's like, okay,
is someone going to be that strong to win the
job out of the Gate. But if Daniel Jones has
a real strong performance tomorrow, he's not going to give
the gig back, and Anthony Richardson will have to wait
and see if somehow Jones gets hurt or is ineffective,
and he will get his chance. Same thing will happen

(37:24):
the other way if Anthony Richardson starts a quarterback and
eventually at some point Daniel Jones are gonna get a chance.
But this derby is going to end tomorrow night, and
I'll tell you it's going to be Daniel Jones. He'll
play well enough, and he'll show that you can trust
me with the offense, because that's really what they want.
They're still kind of scarred from Anthony Richardson, who can
look awful for three quarters and then play six minutes

(37:45):
of brilliant football but you wind up losing. They don't
want to get on that ride again. And if Richardson
showed a complete and total command of the offense that
he was ready that and it's really just about football
that he hasn't played, that's all it is. For Anthony
richards It's just you know, the guy hasn't played, didn't
play a lot in college. He's been hurt. If he
had more reps, it would be a different story. But
they're gonna see Jones with the command of the offense

(38:05):
because that's what he's had so far in training camp.
They love that he's been and felt good in the system.
He's gonna play well. He's gonna win the job tomorrow night, and.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
You have the opportunity to get off to it with
the competency and that's what we're banking on, right Jones
with his own injury history, but looking for that veteran acumen,
with the number of weapons at his disposal.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Here you got our.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Season opener against the Dolphins, winnable game at home, second
game of the year. Everybody wants to crown the Broncos.
I like what they are on paper, but it's still
a game that you should be in and maybe able
to steal. It's at home, and then you're on the
road at the Titans. You actually got a chance with
competent play. You don't have to be world beating, but
competent play and efficient football to get yourself off to

(38:52):
a pretty good start. And then Game four is on
the road out in Los Angeles against the Rams, and
at this point that's the other big story of Saturday is, hey,
how's that work out for Matthew Stafford get a look,
I'm gonna throw sixty times and crumple down or have
more back issues. We don't know, but questions of all
of that ahead of a date against the Raiders. I mean,

(39:12):
there's optimism if you're in Indianapolis that if Daniel Jones
shows he's in control of what you're doing, that he
can take this job and get off the runway pretty
well fast.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah. Look, look you know the call to the two teams,
the two long shot teams I like the most in
the NFL, like long shot super Bowl odds, Like hey,
who can show up out of nowhere? Colts in the AFC,
Falcons in the NFC. Right, those are my two teams.
The Colts have great weapons everywhere. Daniel Jones just has
to get enough reps, get ready and be able to
find them and he will. Josh Down said today, both

(39:46):
guys are playing well. Whoever they pick is great. Daniel
Jones has that chance tomorrow night, it's the preseason. He'll
play well enough, and I feel pretty good that he's
going to be the guy starting on Monday.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
That's gonna be a Daniel Jones. Look at that, you're
bullshot Danil Jones.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I know, insane, right, Daniel Job, Daniel Jones who for years, heck,
I couldn't stop to He's not good, He's terrible. The
Giants over drafted him. He's been Now like, oh, Daniel
Jones is winning this job. He's he's gonna win this
job tomorrow. That's how it's gonna go. Teoscar Hernandez home
run is giving the Dodgers a three to one lead
over the Padres. We'll have more in this game, plus

(40:22):
more quarterbacks with a lot at steak tomorrow coming up
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
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