Hour 4 – A Deep Drive to Left by Castellanos

5 years ago, a drive into deep left field by Castellanos changed everything!

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(01:03):
and subscribe. Now, Like you know, one of the fun
parts we get to here at Fox Sports, right, I
kind of like this a little bit. Well, we'll get
to the big anniversary in a second. But Frostburg and
and just talking with Frostburg and tight shirt and ty
Shirt is getting introduced to Billy Joel for the first
Oh wow, okay, the big Netflix documentary.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, he didn't know who he was till today. Yeah,
I'm sure there was that guy piano he the piano
man guy. I had no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
And the documentary is terrific. I haven't seen the whole thing.
I think it's in two parts. Right, it's a big day.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
It's one of the greatest documentaries on a musician you'll
ever see.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean it's so far, it's it's it's really good. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
He is not holding back with certain things happened, like
his his manager stole so much money from him and.

Speaker 7 (01:46):
From the guy singer songwriters of the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
But yeah, and here's Al Stewart with Year of the Cat.
But like Tyser's like no, like Billy like And that's
the best part is like you know, talking about like
his career in a song is that the part Tyser
was that somebody's watching was the we didn't start the
fire part? Now, sure, Joel was talking about writing the
song in the Genesis about it, and I said, you know,
I don't want to be one of those guys, but

(02:10):
this is one of those very few songs that is
something we don't have anymore, where a song can come
out and be such a big deal, like we didn't
Start the Fire was such a big deal. And it's
not only that it's a song, but people are talking
about it every day because I don't know what's the
linamde you know, what is what is the isle of
Tola in Iran?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
What the like you were?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
People are learning stuff about history because why is that
in the song? Why is this not in the song?
Why is that in there? Why is this not here?
And and like Tyser's like I didn't know that. I go, yeah,
this is one of those things where when that song
came out, that had like a eight month, eight to
twelve month shelf life because people were still learning about it,
hearing things about It's almost like the weekend song that

(02:50):
stayed number one for so long because oh, it's throwing
back to the seventies blind you know, blinding lights, and
it was you know, it's one of those things. It
just happened to be a moment in time where it
cut through and you know, Billy Joel had like, you know,
like five or six of those songs over the course
of his grip. Piano Man still is one of the
biggest hits of a side.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Six hundred and twenty seven million streams on Spotify for
that song.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
I'll tell you what the The soundtrack to the documentary
is available on all your platforms, including a lot of
the spoken like introductions around there as well, so you
can get the full education of it. But fall Up
Boyd did an updated version of We Didn't Start the Fire,
which you know, chronicled in the last twenty years, twenty
five years or whatever, So I mean that got some

(03:35):
real and of course, and of course all people only
two other songs to out stream.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
We Didn't Start the Fire?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh Mamaia, No no, no, Desposito no.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Really, come on, man bullet did despersito? Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Oh Gangham style?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
No no, no, no, no, no no? What's the what's the
one of his?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
All of his?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Uh well, piano man, piano man yet seems with an
Italian restaurant. Oh of red. That's my favorite Billy Joel song.
Oh it's amazing, but you know about it all Uptown Girl,
Uptown Girl.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, oh Uptown Girl.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (04:08):
The last one that he came out with, leave It,
you know, turn the Lights back on was pretty good.
They came out last year, Uh happily. You know the
girls that I did a trip down to San Diego
and went and saw oh him and staying on a
double bill. Oh wow, it was a hell of a night.
Nineteen ninety one me would have been very exciting. I
wonder why Uptown Girl was his most played. I wonder why,

(04:29):
you know, the hell of a video. Yeah, there's yeah, man,
there's a thing to it.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
The big thing about Billy Joel, right, you know, because
it again this documentary is really big, is.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
That he hates the Mets. No, he's a Mexican.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
The guy sang the national anthem before Game six of
the World Series and then his career. I still remember
him hitting the final note and give anymore since then.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Fist pumping a light. Well he's got some Mets killed him. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
They got Carl Oh no, that's the jet He's sang
the national anthem, gave a big fist pump and a
light kicking. We had Game six of the World Series,
like you think about stars now, like someone like Katy
Perry that has had a ton of number one hits,
but basically her career as a hit maker is done,
Like it was ten years and it was done, right,
she got to go to space though, yeah, I mean
you had to go yeah.

Speaker 8 (05:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
But think about Billy Joel because plenty of artists have
had long careers, but he not like career as a
hit maker from the early seventies to the late nineties.
Like River of Dreams was his most recent album that
was a big hit, and he had two or three
top ten hits off of that, and he had five

(05:35):
top ten hits off of basically every album he ever
put out. He had a twenty five year run of
hit making, when usually you're done making hits after a
couple of albums. Then you get into it, well this
is a very personal album for me, Oh this is acoustic,
or this is gonna be a and But Billy Joel,
I mean, this is four or five top ten hits
off of every album for twenty five years, Like nobody

(05:56):
has that.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Nobody does that.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
You can easily do thirty five to forty of his
songs at karaoke.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Oh yeah, oh sure, and you don't have to have
great range. Any any person can go up and say,
how many.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Other artists can you say that about about or maybe Elton?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
That many songs?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Because Billy Joel you can kind of kind of warble
your way through Billy Joel, John's kind of John's kind
of you.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Might have to say a couple of bo but I'm
saying like classics, but that you would, you would have
many songs, trust you.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, uh yeah, great document again seeing the first part
of it, uh time, Tysherts. Just learning about Billy Joel.
It's so great seeing the lads down. You feel like
a teacher.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Wi.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, it's like music theory. We're at Billy Idol. Yeah,
Billy Idol just as good, just as many hits.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Really oh yeah yeah, Billy Idol sneered in people a
little bit more.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Billy Madison, Billy Madison, Billy Mack surely, yeah, I feel
it in my Billy rayceid just again, just as many
hits as Billy Joel way, just as many, I mean,
maybe more made maybe more about Billy LeBlanc's Billy LeBlanc,
you know that is no Billy the Kid, No, no,
that's Billy Blank.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
I was thinking of Billy Blank, Billy the Kid doing
tie both.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, Billy the Kid had more hits. There's no question.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Billy the Kid killed more people. Who knows?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Man? Bill?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wow Wow, Billy Wow Wow. We're going directly.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Are you just googling famous people named Billy?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Now?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
How do you know what I'm typed? Because Billy Wilder?
If you know who Billy joelis?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
You know who Billy?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Did you get to the did you get to Baldwin yet?
Billy bald Billy Bragg, Bill Bradley, Bill Bradley, Crystal Sure, sure,
Billy Craye.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Okay, all these people, you're just Billy Bob Thomas.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
How many of these people I would say seventy five
percent of the names. You're saying you have no idea
who they? Billy the Kid, we just, oh my god,
we just Grandpa. We just did Billy the Kid, Frost.
We're going the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I want to say it. Okay, I have the list.
I want to go to it.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Okay, all right, all right, No, the best was the
ernest look out his face like the but it's miter.
Here's here's what I want you to do. I want
you to go home. I want you to watch Young Guns.
I want you to tell me what you think.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
What's it on?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You? Can? You probably get it off of any streaming.
We're working to make another version. They're doing Young Guns
Stories trying whether you want to see it or not
as subtitle. I mean, but we know the story. Billy
the kid shot by Pat Garrett, right, betrayed by Pat.
We we know the story. Don't forget Billy Jean King,
Billy g.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Not part of the Young Guns.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
We forget Billy's ay, Billy's well, yeah, it's been a
long time since the Phantom, that's for sure, or read
a longer time.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Billy Zapka, Bill.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Ye, Billy Gates, Yeah, Billy.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Oh, Billy, Billy, Billy the Billy.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Brue, Billy Joe Dupre Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, Okay, all right,
all right, Billy d Williams.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Just now, legend of Billy Jean. Okay, Ellen Slater, what
about Billy Baby Billy the Balkers, Baby Billy.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
This is the point in the show where I gotta go. Oh,
Chase Smith needs a time out. He's got to talk
it over.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
All I need is two million dollars.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
With Baby Billy. That's all.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Let's let's let's do that. Let us end not topping
baby Billy, Baby Billy, No, we're not, We're not. It's
absolutely not happening.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
I never cared about me.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
This is this is this is a Tuesday night in August. Everybody,
Tuesday Night August.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
In the back. Baby Billy needs a little rubin tug.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
All right, right, okay, okay, that's again. You get to
the line and instead of dancing on it, you cross it.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
You step right over. Man, you can't. You gotta stay
on the line.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
You do that, things happen.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Man over the line, over the line, Smoky over the line,
the game.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
All right, Billy Billy. I don't think that's a person.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
It is Billy Connolly, the comedian I thought were.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Just a stay Billy Billy Cano who I think.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think Tony Soprano had him killed in season four
of The Sopranos, Billy, and that's what killed.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Billy.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Connolly took over for Howard Hessemon ahead of the he
left head of the class.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
You talk about who had the biggest crush on? Was
u a Simon? From that Christine Hodge oh, the biggest crash.
And I actually saw her at a bar one night. Really,
Oh my dude, did you give her a no?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Were your underwear on?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
No?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
And here's the thing, all.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right, I'll tell you this, Christine Hodge Sorry, it's biggest
crush on her.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Uh. So this is when Pam was working at E and.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
She finished the day and like they all had people
in who are doing things and they all decided to
go out for drinks after.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
So she had come on over.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
We're going we've been together for a while because hey,
eyboy's getting together, all going out for you and there
are people there, I like talking to a cool and
she was there for some reason, like.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
She either did something at that day or something else.
You decided to come out.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm like, oh my god, Christine Hodges here, Oh my god,
I'm looking at Pam going, I love you, wow, Christine
Hodges here, And I'm just thinking back to seventeen eighteen,
nineteen year old me going, and I'm only twenty four
to twenty five at this time.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
So I'm like, okay, okay. And I was like, oh wow, okay, okay,
uh are you mad at me for something? Pam? But
We're gonna get in a fight right now. We're gonna
get in a fight right now because.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
We were on a break.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I'm say, was it was? It was that kind of moment, man,
It was that kind of moment. Look at that, man,
get it. That's the thing is, I got to it.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Christine Hodge Nancy McKeon my crushes when I was when
I was a kid, I all Joe Polk ran into
them when I was with Pam when we were together. I'm like, yeah, sorry, hey, yeah,
the kid's taken. You know, maybe a few years ago
I could have showed you something, but uh you know
that's it.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I could showing you something.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah no, I mean like you mean that's a line.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
No no, no, no, no no no, Andy Samberg Brooklyn
Nyland And that's the title of our sex tape, of
our sex dape, our sex tape. Uh No. Those couple
of times, I'm like, wow, I started thinking of a
couple of Beano being in La, a couple of boy,
these women that had the biggest crush on in the
world that I have actually wound up seeing in real life.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, it's weird how that happens.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
That's tough. Man, been there tough. Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
That was tough. I don't know who was tough for Christine.
Christine Hodge was tougher than than than Nancy mckinn because
at the time when I met Nancy McKeon, you know,
we had already had Zoe had a get you know, okay, yeah,
that's fine. But like Christine, I was like, okay, oh
my goodness. That was Yeah, that was that was tough.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
We're taking you back in a way back machine.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
This is this is those moments where we were, the
moments when the faith say what should I do to
the Smith kid?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
All right, let me give you a bit, let me
give you a big thing. He was the only one that.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Watched Head of the Class from beginning to end, and
VCR taped it every Tuesday night and went back and
watching a couple of times so we could just see
Christine Hodge in action. By uh and that's what I
do to him now? And Sprinkle Fairy does there they
are in the same bar. Look at that funny how

(13:10):
that all works.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Exit out out a Fresco exit swollen dumb.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Jason Smith Show with Mike Garman live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. So a little bit of just a
little bit of you know, the Billy Joel documentary, a
little bit of stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
But coming up, baby, we have the who is this?
Let's go okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
There will be.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Up coming up next.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
It is the fifth anniversary of one of the more
notorious and infamous moments in sports history. We go back
five years ago tonight. Coming up next right here, Jason
and Mike Fox Sports Radio. It was gonna kill you
to play a Billy Joel song.

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You gonna call him the Dark Knight? Part two or four?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Free styling scenes from an Italian restaurant to Mets phoenom
Nolan McLean. I think my work is done here tonight.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Did you get a poster for your bedroom yet? Or what?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
We are the Mets fans, and I say, we are
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are so gonna that, We're so gonna make him into.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
The Mets sucks.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Now we're fine.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now we even eighty four percent chance to make the playoffs.
How's Kenley Jansen looking at it?

Speaker 7 (15:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Stop, stop stop? He was terrible, And I should know
better than to have to sit back and say, I'm
gonna Hey, you don't have to root for the Angels
over the Reds. I mean, I'm sweating the Reds and
the angel sweating, yes, and sweating the red.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
You thought it was gone years ago.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
It came spats still with the sein felt.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, but what.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
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Speaker 8 (16:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:29):
And I don't know about that.

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Yeah, yeah, I like Kramer.

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Yes, it's former former Vikings quarterback Tommy Kramer who's doing
a big tour answering questions about the Purple People leaders
of the seventies. Yeah, you'll love. It's great, It's awesome.
Today is the fifth anniversary of one of the more infamous,
notorious and made fun of moments in all of sports,
because it was five years ago to a then Red's

(17:00):
broadcaster Tom Brenneman got a little loose lipped on the
microphone in which he thought his mic was off when
he said something very derogatory a A a homophobic slur
that eventually got him fired and have to work his
way back into broadcasting. So he says it in response

(17:23):
to something somebody in the studio is saying. Right, doesn't
realize his microphone is on as the game is coming
back from break. I remember doing this story when it
came out, and it was stunning. Right, we heard the
audio right away. Look, it's a local, it's a Reds gamer.
We paying attention much. But it's on social media right away.
We knew about it right away. The reaction is instantaneous,

(17:44):
and I remember not believing that he was still on
the air. Right, could not believe he was still on
the air through the game after this happened. This was
really really bad man, And as time went on, I
think the Reds realizes, Okay, well, we gotta we gotta,
we gotta get him off the air. And so he
realizes that he has to get off the air, and

(18:05):
he's in the process of telling everybody he's leaving, and
he's gonna kick it to I forget who was gonna
be the play by play guy to do the rest
of the game. But it was in his apology that
this moment was born that the Internet will never let
anyone ever forget.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
I made a comment earlier tonight that I guess went
out over the year that I am deeply ashamed of
if I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell
you how much I say from the bottom of my heart,
I'm so very very sorry. I pride myself and think
of myself as a man of faith. As there's a

(18:47):
drive in a deep left field by Constillanos, it will
be a home run and so that'll make it a
four to nothing ball game. I don't know if i'mould
be putting on this headset again.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
And he did.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
He was let go by the Reds, let go by Fox.
He has since worked his way back up after a
long time, and now he's doing college football games on
the Seed.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
W Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
He did do a lot of work to try to
rehabilitate his image. He met with LGBTQ groups who all say, hey,
he was a you know, we could tell he really
wanted to learn and understand things, and they all seemingly
have great reviews of him, and this was you know,
this is something he really did, Like he went to
the wall and he wanted to make sure I'm doing this,
I'm doing the right things. I want to get back
to this and I realized I'd given my career away.

(19:34):
But this moment five years ago tonight, the deep drive
to left by Costaianos, and that has lived forever. Like
anytime there's a somber moment and someone wants to make
a joke, they'll say in a deep drive to left
by Costianos, like this is this is going to be immortal,
Like people in twenty years from now, people are going
to be saying and there's a deep drive to left
by Costeianos and a serious not understanding what it's from,

(19:57):
but it's it's taken on such a life of its
own that it's it's it's transcended. Oh, by the way,
this came from a really bad story where where the
broadcaster who's been around for a long time throughout a
big homophobic slur which which everybody was stundy, and then
he tried to say, ah, it's first time I ever
used the word. Yeah, I don't know about that. You're

(20:18):
not saying that on a hot mic. It's the first
time you ever used the word. But I do give
him the nod for going through the right resources in
the right path to get his career back. Now the
thing is to think about this right because here he
is in the middle of his apology deciding, you know,
play by play guy through and through, I gotta make
sure people know that that Costianos is hit a home run, right, Like, Okay,

(20:39):
I don't think it's that there's nobody watching the game
at that point that really cares about it.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Another and number one, neither should you.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
This is the end of your career, and I get that, Hey,
you want to you know, you want to make sure
you're telling people what's going on in the game. Like
I said, tried and true play by Plague, I always
know what's going on. Always tell people what's happening. Paint
the picture. I get, But this is the end of
your career and the fact that you interrupted that to say,

(21:07):
here's a deep drive to left by Costeanos, like it's
now taken with the attack of boy House. Sincere is
this guy where I'm trying to apologize for what could
end my career. But instead, yeah, I'm gonna jump in
and tell you what's going on, because really, isn't that
big a deal. I'm gonna say an apology when maybe
it could have just been him going back into play

(21:27):
by play mode, like, here's what's going I gotta make
sure hang on, I gotta tell you what's going on
in the game. Then I get back to my apology.
So it could have been sincere. The apology could have
been sincere. But the fact that he chose that was
such an awful choice because, honestly, if he just apologizes, right,
if he says I said some things, hurtful things, I apologize,
I don't know if I'm gonna get turn to be
behind the microphone again, that doesn't change. He still gets fired.

(21:51):
He still gets fired from Fox. He still winds up
disappearing for a while. He did, like high school baseball
for a while to try to work his way back.
But this is what happens in the world of sports
when you make it. When you do something like that,
you go away for a while, and after the dust
settles and you've been out of the limelight, you work
your way back in and again he did all the

(22:12):
things he was supposed to do to get back in.
Doesn't take away from what he did. It's gonna define
his career. But he did do a lot of things
to get his way back. He would have gotten back sooner,
and he would have gotten back on a bigger level.
But the fact that no one could really forget what
he said because a deep drive to left by Costaiano's
lives forever. It always keeps that top of mind, like, yep, Tom,

(22:34):
you know Tom Brennan, and Tom Brennan, and Tom Brenn,
look at what he did, Tom Brendan, because a deep drive,
because that overshadowed everything, and that's overshadowed what he said.
It overshadowed the entire moment, and it's become a whole
rallying cry for hey, how do I say something kind
of fun with a deep drive?

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Left by?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Got to break the tension in a real serious moment.
Had he not said that, and just an apology, he
probably disappears for a year plus, does the things he's
supposed to do to try to find his way back,
and then he finds his way back because he's incredibly talented.
He's great at what he does. Now again, he's just
found his way back in the last year or so
to doing college football on the CW. But this is
the guy who's at the top of the broadcast chain right,

(23:11):
play by play guy for the Reds, national guy did
a bunch of different sports. Had he just done the apology,
He's back in the bigger time, in the big time
as a broadcaster, sooner, yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
I mean you go back to I mean I remember
him growing up, like he went Red's to the Cubs,
and then he became a national voice for Fox for
all those years covering baseball and the NFL. And then
in this moment, and I never know what's on in
someone's heart. You try to give people the benefit of
the doubt. I don't know, you know, excited moment, what's

(23:42):
you know? Is their hate there malice? I mean, that's
for you all to decide, right, I can't tell you
how to feel there. But he goes to the apology,
and I do believe it's it's full on broadcast mode.
It's like I've got to say, what's what's happening? Like
my job, you know, from day one doing this work
is I've got to describe what's happening in front of me.

(24:04):
So that conditioned, no matter how hard felt it might
have been, that in that moment, it became parody, it
became lampoon. It's on Saturday Live, it becomes this whole
internet meme and even today. I mean I must have
seen that thing nine thousand times before noon.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Anything you want to do, you want to grab a
political story, and here's this you want to do, you know,
economy things, Let's do this, let's just on down the line.
It became the graphic djure today. So and that was redundant.
But for Tom Brenneman's he's got the path back. Whether

(24:44):
it builds into more college football or maybe another shot
at the pros, I don't know. But it's just a
reminder of how quick it can all go. And it's
not just you know, broadcasting, whatever job you're in the
walls heavy ears.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Now to go for it's not quite a silver lining,
because that's the wrong phrase, but to go for, hey,
something positive or as positive as you could get out
of the deep drive to left by Costianos right, usually right,
I said, when someone does something like this, they disappear,
you don't hear from them, They apologize, they wait it out,

(25:24):
and they come back and generally at some point people
turn into the Okay, now you're picking on me, and
now I'm mad at you, and now that's generally what
it is. You just disappear and you try to come back.
I want you know, I'm throwing this out there because
only only he would know for sure if he talks
about motivation, is that. I wonder if the fact that

(25:45):
this deep drive to left by Costiano's he knew it
was never going away, he was never going to get
to quote disappear and get out of the public consciousness,
because this is such a big thing that people see
on the internet all the time. I wonder if he knew,
you know what I need to be doing. I need
to get out there and do more. I need to
go to do more to get past this, or to

(26:06):
try to. I mean, he's never going to, but maybe
maybe that helped him a little bit more, saying hey,
to drive him to get past it.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Maybe he doesn't come back if he if he doesn't
feel like, hey, I have to try to really make amends.
I really want to try to get my career back.
Maybe he's just so depressed that he doesn't want to
come back and do sports anymore. But I wonder how
much of the fact that this became a you know,
a punchline meme encouraged him and and pushed him to
come back and do all the right things to get

(26:35):
his career back and go do games because I want,
like if if if this, if this, this thing I
told you, it kept it, It kept it there, it
kept it public. It told him I can't just disappear
and hope to come back, or I can't just disappear
and not work anymore.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
People are you know? No, I want to go.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I this cannot define me, and I got to really
try to find my way back from it. And I
wonder if that would That's part of the reason why
he was able to do what he did to get
back this close to where he is now.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
Yeah, I mean, look, people's motivations, right, whether it's just
getting back in the chair because that's what's defined you
as your career, or recognizing that you needed to make
up for this statement and make amends with as many
people as you could. I mean, because I mean to
pull it to a different direction in our sporting universe.

(27:22):
You and I have been on long enough. Go back
to the Ray Rice circumstance right when that video surface
and all the work he and his wife I have
done in counseling and in the city of Baltimore. He
never got his career back, but he's done a lot
of good and there's people that you know, talk about
all of the the good works and lives he helped.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, that's the thing though, because as a player, like
as a broadcaster, if you're away for five years and
it comes back, you can still get you as a
player once you're out of the NFL for a couple right,
So that's that wasn't gonna happen just because hey, once
you're gone a couple of years, well you're not coming back.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
But you never even got that never even got that
cup of coffee attempt, right, that was done as soon
as that video surface. But just from that same vein
of immersed himself into you know, trying to be better
and learning from that and helping other people. For Tom Brenneman,
helping himself, but certainly you know, learning and being part

(28:22):
of what whatever that messaging would be. You know, only
he can know his motivation from that. Right Again, I
don't know what's on the man's heart, but from all accounts,
did the work, did the reconciliation, and he's getting another shot.
That's not you're not always promised a second chance. It
was really the larger point.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And you know the other part is I didn't know
this is that all of the home runs that because
Costianos has had a great last four years, you know,
since this is a great last five years, all the
home runs he has hit where people were talking about
stuff really somber. Yeah, Like I was stunned seeing that
list of the going, oh my goodness, guy's like fifteen
home runs where people are talking about really sad things.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
Now, this was an account, and go back and verify
it extra but to your point, just to give it
some specificity. Royals broadcast eulogizing a World War One veteran
who died at ninety seven two days earlier twenty twenty two,
Tom McCarthy paying tribute to fallen service members twenty twenty three,

(29:26):
Charlie Manual. They were sending well wishes to him and
going on and on, I mean multiple occasions.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
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Speaker 8 (29:45):
A Yankee game where they hit nine home runs in
the nine innings and won at Tampa Bay thirteen to three.
In fact, the Yankees are the first team in MLB
history to hit at least nine homers in a game
while allowing none, and they're the first team in history
to hit back to back to back homers in the
first inning, now three.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Times in the same season.

Speaker 8 (30:05):
They did so in late March in a game, in
late April in a game, and tonight as well, and
tonight's came after a rain delay at the start. Then
the Yankees hit the three straight homers in the top
of the first that included Aaron Judges fortieth of the season.
A reminder, Fox TV has baseball this Thursday night Boston
at the Yankees. For most of the country, There's also
due to be a couple of Thursday night games in

(30:26):
September on Fox as well. Boston was beaten at home
in eleven innings tonight by Baltimore for to three. The
Red Sox, with runners in scoring position, went oher for
thirteen for first place. Toronto first baseman Vladimir Guerrero Junior
was out with hamstring inflammation. Toronto did win seven to
three at Pittsburgh. Max Scherzer went six innings for the victory.
The Mets were eight to one winners at Washington, winning

(30:49):
pitcher David Peterson ten strikeouts in eight innings. Mets had
four homers. Nationals only had five hits, five for thirty
at the plate. Philadelphia got a two run shot bottom
of the eighth from j T. Rail moved to Go
and beat Seattle six to four. Kyle Schwarber with his
forty fourth home run of the season. Detroit one on
a tenth inning bases loaded walk, won nothing over Houston.

(31:10):
Cubs swept a doubleheader from Milwaukee. Atlanta with a comeback
eleven to ten win over the White Sox victories for
Saint Louis and the A's. Kansas City won its fifth straight.
The Dodgers won eleven to four at Colorado. Sho heeo
Tani with his forty fourth homer. San Diego five to
one winners against San Francisco winning pitcher Nick Pavetta Is
thirteen and four. Cincinnati got two runs in the top

(31:32):
of the ninth to beat the Angels encloser Kenley Jansen
six to four. Arizona ended a four game losing streak
with its six' five decision Over cleveland to THE. Wnba
Sophie cunningham Of indiana is out for the season with
a TORN. Mcl Caitlin clark of The, fever of, course
is missed over a month with a groin. Injury no
timetable for. Return Angel reaes Of chicago did return in

(31:54):
the past. Month she'd missed most of her team's games
with a bad. Back she had nineteen points in a
home loss To seattle ninety four eighty. Eight chicago is
eight and twenty. Six Las vegas Beat atlanta seventy.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Four thanking for arch. Manage so you, KNOW i.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
Don't think not until actually there's some sort of grandparent
or great uncle that comments on where he's. Going, okay
that's whole football thing's not gonna. You you watch that'll
be coming. Up Las vegas seventy four to seventy two Over.
Atlanta Asia wilson thirty two. Points wins for connecticuts And.
Phoenix New york Beat. Minnesota Guard John wall retired after

(32:29):
ELEVEN nba. Seasons The pacers gave Coach Rick carlisle a
contract extension a, reminder there's college football On FOX tv This.
Saturday Fresno state At, kansas which is redone At Stadium Notre.
Dame starting quarterback is redshirt FRESHMAN.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Cj.

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Carr his grandfather is Former michigan Coach Lloyd. Carr THE
nfl preseason ends This. Saturday The saints are due to
name their starting quarterback after the exhibition Finale. Saturday The
colts Named Daniel jones as they're STARTING qb for the.
Season rams quarterback Man Matthew stafford practice again despite his bad.
Back BROWN'S Qb Kenny pickett took part in team drills

(33:05):
after a hamstring, injury But bucks wide Receiver jalen McMillan
will miss significant time with a neck. Injury he could
go on injury. Reserve The dolphins cut Punter Ryan. Stonehouse
back to.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
You Maga STEVE.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
O coming up, NEXT a big quarterback decision is made
today and everybody's sleeping on just how good this decision.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Was wo next right, Here jason And Mike Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
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