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Jason Smith & Mike Harmon talk about Tyson Bagent's contract extension with the Bears. Plus the guys chat with NFL Analyst Jason La Canfora as they gear up for the last week of NFL preseason.

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Jason Smith for a second.

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Time to change.

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Go?

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this year.

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What is hang on? I gotta you get bust in
the junk before we went on air?

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Speaker 5 (01:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
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of the Mets game. Wow. Okay, so that was it
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my voice would ever get that high again. That's something, man, Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Right now, listen, there's a right right, This is the
time right now in the NFL. First of all, where
fantasy owners is starting to get little nervous. We're going
everybody's going through their drafts, going, Wait a minute, the
Saints traded for a wide receiver. The Broncos traded a
wide receiver away. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait,
what's happening now? Lamar Jackson got hurt in practice today? No,
hang on a second, Hang on a second. What's going now?

(02:15):
Lamar Jackson is okay, just to let you know, injury scare.
He is absolutely fine. But this is that moment in
the calendar where we're we're getting ready for Week three
of the preseason of the NFL, where we know, okay,
all the best players have played. This is all going
to be mainly backups and guys fighting for roster spots.
This is when everybody's got their fantasy drafts going on,

(02:36):
and it's every little bit of information people absolutely go
crazy for it.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay, what does it mean today the Saints made a
trade with the Broncos who traded their fourth wide receiver.
What does this mean? What are the fantasy applications? This
is what today has made for Mike Carmen.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
It means somebody won the number four slot and will
not be on your fantasy roster unless you're in a
dynasty league. And then you start really getting deep and desperate.
I mean, I did a draft earlier today by it
was eighteen rounds deep final six rounds?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
But can we just finish this? I'm done with Yeah,
I done.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, here's how here's how crazy I am right now,
right after this Saint's trade today, right the Broncos obviously,
can I say this, Yeah, whatever, it's either gonna happen
or it's not. So the Saints trade happens, and I'm like, okay,
this opens things up on the Broncos for Pat Bryant.
Right that that that Sean Payton said reminds him of

(03:32):
of of Michael Thomas and you know, the slant King
and all I'm going, Oh man, So I'm in the
fourth round of a Dynasty draft and I am doing
all I can to get the next like this is
you know, forty rookies have gotten chosen already, Like I'm
not going, but now I gotta get Pat Bryant.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I'm like, here's my fourth rown pick, here's it, here's it,
Here's a Xavier Leget, here's you know, here's here's Kendre Miller.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I want that next pick so I can get Pat Bryant.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Like I am lunatic over making this trade right now,
Like I'm and I'm checking my phone. Come on, accept
this trade. Of course you want to accept this trade.
Accept this trade. It's a fourth round pick in a
rookie in a rookie dynasty fantasy draft.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'm like, I gotta have this guy. I gotta have them.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, but that's thing, right, you started seeing a couple
of headlines. You actually asked me about him yesterday. Yeah,
so all of a sudden, it was like you spoke
this in new existence. You have a hot line. I mean,
is this like Strgy? You have a more direct line
to Denver? Did you go through Colin?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean, how did you make this happen? I can't
tell you.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I could just tell you that to seances, things happen sometimes,
and I'm in on the ground floor.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
That's all it is. Did you get to a lock
of somebody's hair and makens happen? I mean, I don't know.
All of a sudden, I got this really bad doll.
What's how?

Speaker 5 (04:43):
How?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
How I want to be traded? I want to be traded.
I want to be traded. I want to be traded
full on voodoo through your fantasy draft.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But this is this is what the time is for
right now. In the NFL, in the draft with fantasy,
with trades going up and down. I mean, it's just fun.
This is the this is the silly season of the
NFL right now. This is a silly season where Okay,
every single day it could be somebody that the average
NFL fan just has no idea about it.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Wait, no, this is a big thing. It's a big
trust me, it's a big thing.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
What was funny that the trade that that your Jets
did with the Vikings. I had a lot of friends
in Minnesota that are pissed. Yeah, we got defensive tackles today. Yeah,
the trade that that brings in Harrison Bryant, right, or
Harrison Phillips, I'm sorry he gets traded to the Jets,
and all my guys in Minnesota, like, that's the strength
of the squad when you've got a room quarterback, Like,

(05:35):
what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
You had death, you had.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
A guy that they liked and and and then you
trade them to the Jets, who once again are stockpiling
defensive tackles. It's like we're back in twenty eleven again.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Dude. We win the off season.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
We may not win the off season, but we finish
and we finish on the metal stand every year and
winning the off season. That's absolutely what happens to us. Man,
we win the off season, we are right there, but
speak thinking of teams that won the offseason. Okay, the
other night I told you we had this conversation. You
disagree with me, and I still disagree with you, but
it's fun.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
You don't know what I'm talking about? What about say?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
You need all you need to say? What am I
gonna you didn't start crying with your high pitch?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
What am I gonna say? What am I gonna say?
I know exactly what you're gonna say. What am I
gonna say?

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm Caleb Williams shouldn't start a game again for the Bears.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay, well, it is about Caleb Williams. It is about
Caleb Williams. It is about Kaylebwims. I told you the
other night, and you disagree with me. It is twenty
twenty five or bust for Caleb Williams in Chicago. And
he said, no, he's gonna get a year three. It's
gonna happen. I said, not going to happen. It would
be if he hasn't bad look, And I told you
first thing. I told you, I think he's gonna have

(06:45):
a big year. Right, Ben Johnson knows what he's doing.
The promo is running all over Fox. Ben Johnson knows
what he's doing. He's got a lot of weapons. Caleb
Williams is terrific. He didn't have a bad year last year,
but he wasn't Jayden Daniels, so people think, oh he
was to no Caleblliams. It was a bad end of
the year. He got sacked a lot, mainly because his
offensive line was terrible. But understand things are different. They

(07:07):
got a better offensive line in place. They signed a
couple of guys with Pro Bowl resumes. Right, things are
going to be better. But if it's not, this is
it for Caleb Williams in Chicago and they will move
on from him in the offseason. And this is Caleb
williams last year with the Bears. He's not going to
survive a bad year. Number one, all the noise outside

(07:27):
the organization, look, Bear's Nation.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
They're ready.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
They have one foot off the Caleb outside of the
Caleb Williams bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Already, they are done. They are ready for him to stink.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You see all the stuff this preseason with Tyson bage
and how much they're ready for him to just stink
so they can.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Get rid of them.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And you disagree with me, And now I want to
know if you still disagree with me after today, after
the pump and circumstance for Tyson beagent's contract extension with
the Bears.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, nothing should tell.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
You that this is twenty twenty five or bus for
k Williams more than what we saw today. First of all,
backup quarterback contracts don't get announced. Okay, it's just a signing.
Oh hey, look who our backup is going to be.
This is how it goes right because you what your
starting quarterback knows who he is.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Nobody makes a.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Pomp and circumstance announcement with their backup quarterbacks, but the
Bears do today. You don't sign a backup quarterback long term,
because why are we locked into a backup quarterback long ter?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
But this is what happened.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Beijing gets a two year extension today for ten million dollars,
could get to as much as sixteen million dollars. This
would make him the highest paid backup quarterback in the NFL.
You don't pay a guy that kind of money. And
have this kind of Hey, we're going to give you
a day to be announced as our backup quarterback unless
there are plans long term that you may have to start.

(08:49):
And this is what the Bears have said with all
of this today, look and I think it's a great
day for Beijing. Obviously we're going to play some sound
from in a second. You know, sure, very emotional with
his day today and his journey and an awesome day
for him.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But no one does this.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
No one talks about the backup quarterbacks like the Chicago
Bears have talked about their backup quarterbacks. I mean, you
got Ben Johnson saying I've been blown away by his approach.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
He knows what to do, he gets it done. You
can't have.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Enough talent in that room. We have one of the
best quarterback rooms in the NFL. And then you had
Ryan Poles on Sunday Night Football saying, no one prepares
harder than Tyson Bage. Wha wait a minute, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. Okay, I get that. I'm sure he prepares hard.
I get that. But you're gonna go on national TV
and say your hardest working player is your backup quarterback.

(09:36):
I mean you have to read. You have to read
the signs out there that the Bears are saying. And
part of this is going to be we're motivating Caleb
Williams because this is this is kind of what Jerry
Jones did trying to get Trey Lance into the Cowboys, saying, hey,
we like Trey Lance. That might motivate Dak Prescott. Guess
what kind of did until Dak Prescott got hurt. But
this is motivation. This is also saying we have a

(09:56):
plan in place. Man, if you stink this year, look
at what we have with our backup. We like how
he played during the season. We're giving him a press
conference for his for his quarterbirth extent. Yeah, look at
the money we're giving him. All of this tells you
they have planned they will move on from Caleb Williams
after this year. If it is not great, it's twenty
twenty five or bus for Caleb Williams. I'm gonna look at.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
It this way and look, I like the chaos, and
I was hoping you'd push all in, saying Caleb, it
never plays another snap.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
This is all.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
This is all to have your five million dollars a year,
maybe as much as eight million dollars a year quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Let's get it started. I would say this right.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
First thing is this is the first contract extension signed
by a quarterback, not not a one year hey you're
still here, yay kind of thing, since Jake Cutler in
twenty fourteen. So we're going back a decade. So yes,
this requires pomp and circumstance. I'm surprised they didn't bring
out a damn ice cream cake when it's all said
and done. You're also talking about a guy who's a

(10:56):
Division two quarterback, and I mean he got weepy. We
will play the sound, but talking about it, locking it in,
locking him in, saying you love it here, we love you.
Let's get this done because if he does have to start,
either via injury or the unfortunate occurrence of Caleb Williams,
you know what's that word sucking? Then you got a

(11:17):
guy in your room that knows the room, has been
there two years and can come in, has shown and
demonstrated what he can do, and you got him on
the cheap for two years.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So that's all fine and good, right.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
The other is continuity in a program in a city
where there has been no continuity and consistency in that room.
Ben Johnson went to Ryan Poles and look, I'm not
a Ryan Poles guy. You know this, but it's the
idea of let's have some semblance consistency. This is what
we do going forward. If he has to play great,
If he doesn't ever see a snap, you've got a

(11:52):
minimal investment. But you've got an insurance policy, right, It's
the Lloyd's of London policy. When I'm a twenty year
old guy sprinting up and down one of the greatest
college players of all time, but I know that if
one bad tackle, one hip drop tackle, my career goes bam.
Lloyd's Lunson cutting me a check. That's what they're doing
here with the quarterback position. Or if someone gets truly desperate,

(12:15):
secret option. See, hey, anybody want to trade for Tyson Bagent.
We love them and you can have him if the
price is right.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
If Tyson Bagent wasn't expected to start right, But let's
just say, hey, here's what we're doing. We are showing
up the quarterback room. You're going into the draft next
year to get a new quarterback, aren't you right. Really,
you can't sit here and say, well, we don't like
Caleb Williams, you know, but don hour You're gonna go
and get another quarterback, right, that's your plan, right, because

(12:43):
if Caleb Williams doesn't work out, you need a quarterback.
It's okay, things are bad. We're going into free agency
for a proven starter. We're gonna go to get a
guy that Sam Darnold type that all of a sudden
makes himself available, Right, that's what you're doing. Or hey,
we're picking high enough in the draft, we're going to
get Arch Manning, We're going to get somebody else.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Doesn't matter. But the fact that you instead are giving
Tyson Pagent this kind of money.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
This is not money that hey, we are solidifying the
backup spot and hope he never has to play. This
is we have a backup guy that we know we're
gonna turn to if it doesn't work out.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's why this is such a big sign for Caleb
Williams because if he doesn't play well in twenty twenty,
all right.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well we have a guy we like. Right.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I bet you the Bears look at this situation like
we have RG three and Kirk Cousins. Right, we have
RG three and Kirk Cousins. You know, Kirk Cousins is
the fourth round pick, and hey, we kind of turned
him into something.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
We let him loose.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
He got the gig. Look at how good he was.
This is kind of how the Bears see this quarterback situation. Well, look,
we drafted RG three really high.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
He's our guy.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
You saw the talent, right, just like RG three was
his rookie year's first couple of years. But RG three
didn't sustain, it got hurt her. Kirk Cousins got his chance,
and Kirk coun and now you see RG three is
on television.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Kirk Cousins is the highest paid backup in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Still, this this is the sign that says, hey, if
we strike out a quarterback this year, this is our
guy next year. We're not putting all this money in
here unless we think he's really going to play, and
we have to give him a chance. And now we're
hoping that Caleb's a guy. Right, we still have every confidence,
but we are ready to We are pulling on that

(14:18):
rip quorder. We are pressing that panic button. After twenty
twenty five, twenty five or bust for Caleb Williams Well
and the beauty of it is. You got two guys
in the room that are making nothing right.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Your quarterback position is solidified for the next couple of years,
and you're not paying a dime.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's a beautiful thing if you wind up this year.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Getting rid of Caleb Williams after twenty twenty five, I
want you with a sandwich board ringing a bell on
the quarner of some Pulvit and Ventura, saying Jason was right,
Jason was right, And then on the end says end
times or nine like the front of the sandwich board, Jason, Well,
on the back of the sandwich board times or nigh,
and you waved one of those one of those bells.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
It goes ding ding ding ding d ding d ding
d ding d ding.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, let's make sure our guys, Patrick, Alex, make sure
you clipping that off, because in saying that's the last
sentence that he did, the end times are nigh. With
the Jason was right, He just admitted that everything he's
been telling me for years was erroneous and that my
strategy of doing the opposite was brilliant.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Too.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Opposite like the Homer life, to opposite of what Bart says,
he looks ready man, I am telling you that, get ready,
get ready. Now, let's love I loved him. No, yeah,
it's great. Let's hear a little bit of Tyson pagent.
You know today had had a great conference. Look, this
is you know, for him listening to him today talk
about the journey he had and and and in his
life from when he was a kid to now. Listen

(15:48):
to him getting very emotional after getting his contract extension.
This is where you play the Tyson Pagent getting very emotional.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Okay, okay, you know a lot of.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
People don't know this, but you know, my dad is
my uh he's my right hand man, and he didn't
he didn't have running water until he was in high school.
So there's definitely a lot of things that and people
that I could that I think I could certainly help
with this gift I've been blessed with.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
But yeah, just little things like that. You know, I
don't really know anybody back at.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Home with any money.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So yeah, it feels good.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
I mean, it's certainly a weight off my shoulders and
my family shoulders, and yeah, definitely means.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
A lot that I'd be a great moment for him,
you hear.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Sure, But there's no pomping circumstance and contract money unless
you think your backup quarterback is going to be that guy.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
But it's also a great story when you know his history. Though.
This is the Bears showing they have heart that look
what they did. No, No, this is a win for
the organization.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Sure it creates chaos in the media side of it,
but for them to be able to say, this is
our guy. Look, we're betting on him, humble roots. Look
at humble guy working hard, busting his ass. You know
you worked harder than any went all right, he worked
as hard as other guys. But all of that to say,
it's a pr win. And when you don't announce a
lot of these extensions, like every other team, even your

(17:13):
Jets have had guys that you said, hey, you know what,
we'll give him another deal. Bears don't do that. There
were mothballs head related to the quarterback position before this.
It's a big deal. It's a celebrating thing. And now
I want ice cream cake, ice cream cake.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Go, confetti cake, whatever, whatever it takes.

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Keep it right here, maybe more wide receivers. We'll get traded.

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(20:01):
melting down over a story from three days ago continues.
But you know, look, first of all, I want to
say this, I'm really coming more around to that, to
how Caleb Williams Tyson Bagent really seems like it's RG
three Kirk Cousins all over again, right, like so many,
so many things are similar, right the Bears, like just

(20:22):
how the Red the then Redskins knew, Look, they drafted
RG three and then they drafted Kirk Cousins, which is,
why are you drafting Kirk Cousins when you have that
doesn't make it? But whatever, And they gave RG three
a chance. They gave him two plus years. His first
year was really good, right to believe he's offensive Rookie
of the Year.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Sure was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, they went, Yeah, they gave to Now they gave
a little bit longer, because that was the time in
twenty twelve, you gave, you gave guys a little bit longer.
Now we don't give players nearly as long. There's first
round quarterbacks that are out of a job after the
first year, just ask Josh Rosen. But after you know,
you get three years and it's not he's not quite

(21:02):
as good as it was. Whatever it was leadership wise
with him, the questions you had, I really wanted thirty
for thirty on that era because.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Wow, well, I mean in the end, he couldn't stay
healthy right now, No, I mean thirteen and in and
out of the lineup and leaving himself exposed to a
lot of hits. So a lot of what we've talked
about with Anthony Richardson. So when RG three starts piping up,
I just start pointing, going, yeah, you're seeing things, aren't you.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Now, Look, I mean he didn't stay healthy. He wasn't
quite the same the same play, and I understand that.
And Kirk Cousin slowly got his chance, and then the
Redskins had no choice but to say he's our guy,
right and RG three was done. You know, he tried
to finish his career out and then you saw Kirk
Cousins then turn that into you know, a five hundred

(21:45):
million dollar career that's still going right now with the
Minnesota Vikings and.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
The greatest businessman ever down there waiting for a chance
in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, but Washington wouldn't let go of kirk Cousins. They wouldn't.
They wouldn't say, you know what, we have our starting quarterback.
Is this good?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Is this good for the company? Is this good for everyone?
That we wind up keeping him? While RG three we
keep saying, is our guy? Right, because I don't care
what kind of how strong you are mentally. The If
Washington thought that RG three was gonna be great, and
they had no problems, no questions, data said goodbye to

(22:22):
kirk Cousins, they'd have fliped them into something else, because
you don't want a quarterback division to tear your team apart.
But they held on to him, knowing full well, we're
really not quite sure that RG three is a guy.
That's why you go crazy for a backup quarterback, right.
Usually you do what teams not to say the jet
if you do with the jetsuit, Hey, we signed Justin Fields.
Let's go get to Rod Taylor for whatever. He's a

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career backup. If he needs to start, we can. Everything
is fine. This is how teams do it. You don't
go crazy for a young backup quarterback unless you think
he's going to play for us at some point, and
so Washington they held on to Kirk Cousins, and that
told you they knew, Hey, we're still not sure that
he's our guy. The fact that Bears are going to
this extent two year contract extension could wind up being

(23:06):
the highest paid backup of the NFL. He's there, Kirk Cousins.
We're still not sure that Williams is the guy. And
after this year, we've seen Baige in play enough in
spurts to know that he needs a chance to play.
He needs a chance to play at some point with
the Ones. If Caleb Williams falters, he's not our break
glass in case of emergency guy. He is our next
step where if Caleb Williams doesn't work, this is where

(23:28):
we go next. It seems like it's RG three and
Kirk Cousins all over again.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, I think the analogy can work.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I mean we're asking some of these questions, you know,
in the much looser terms during the draft, when Cleveland
did what they did with Dylan Gabriel and Shadoor Sanders,
and it's a question still being asked of why did
you put yourself in a conundrum other than because they're
the Browns with when you go back to Washington. I mean,
remember they win the division in twenty twelve behind RG three.

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Next year he goes three and ten as a starter,
Philadelphia wins. But you still think you have a roster
that can compete. The Bears are building that now, right,
you look at it and for what they did in
this offseason, and again it's winning the offseason. Let's see
what happens once we actually have to blow a whistle
and play meaningful football. That isn't a preseason game that

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you get to see a smattering of plays and decide,
you know, the be all to end all of all, right,
you have to push.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
In based on those eight plays you saw, how do
you feel?

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
And then you scream and come up with a hot take. No,
it's now, let's have some measured approach and see how
it goes through. You do have to play the AFC North,
including the aforementioned Browns, but you know you've got a
schedule that isn't very forgiving to you as you go.
But you built an offensive line that was the first
thing you addressed on paper.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Caleb Williams getting the tough love from Ben Johnson that's great.
Tyson Pagent's been there a couple of years, he's seen
the worst of it, and they watch enough and said,
even in spite of all of the horrid offensive coordinator
work that they had and the head coach that should
not have been, you know what is and what should

(25:12):
not have been, that they liked enough to say, all right,
we're keeping this guy around work ethic, whatever he showed
him in the classroom, whatever he's done at the whiteboard
with Ben Johnson. Yeah, I mean put yourself in a
position to where if Caleb Williams isn't there, you're not saying,
all right, seasons loss. We're hoping to find a guy
on the scrap heap, or we have to go get

(25:33):
Kirk Cousins to bring him back into this scenario and
pay a king's ransom to go get a guy.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
No, you've got a guy in there at five million
a year.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Who's very excited to be there and has known your
team and knows what it's all about and has won
the locker room. Yeah, it's the best of all scenarios.
If this guy stinks, I mean, he should be looking
over his shoulder, right. Nobody should feel that comfortable until
your year five.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Year six in the league. You should be always looking
over thinking so much taking your job.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Caleb Williams, Tyson Pagent RG three and Kirk Cussins. I'm
going to get to explain to the generation who's just
coming up as football fans. I go, what was the
RG three Kirk Cousins about Grandpa? Well, let me tell
you about that. Meanwhile, as I said, we got another
big NFL story coming up in a few minutes. But
this talk the last few days because now you know,

(26:25):
you saw the Rob Manfred statement on Sunday Night Baseball
that realignments coming to Major League Baseball. Right, it's not
coming tomorrow, it's not after breakfast, but sometime they want
to expand to thirty two teams and potentially, you know,
look it could be Montreal, it could be North Carolina,
whatever it is. Yeah, they could bring professional baseball to
the Bronx. What I did I say that after we

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lost to the National tonight. But the number of pe
because I can tell you what to be scared about,
because there's so many baseball fans of every level scared
out realignment number one, because they're scared that. Look, baseball
is steeped in so many traditions. We're going to lose
all these rivalries that we spent all our lives growing

(27:09):
up with. Okay, you know, these divisions have been in
place for twenty years. It's not like it's been since
eighteen ninety six, right, and we've already changed everything else,
So what's the difference. But you get you get people
who are scared of of the trader because look, baseball
is steeped in tradition more than any other sport, and
I understand that you need to be a little bit
beholden to that. But the people are scared of all

(27:30):
what's going to happen to baseball Now. We're going to
get these eight four team divisions all throughout baseball. It's
going to be like the NFL. And people, you know,
fan seem to be scared, not liking it. Like I
saw a couple of looking and look when you see
baseball punnets who are over eighty talking about it, you understand.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay, this is the because of what they've grown up
in is now changing.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
This is the the John Henry line from the end
of Moneyball. You're you're you're threatening their jobs. You're threatening
their livelihoods.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's going.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
But the thing to be scared of because there is
something to be scared of. And I don't want to
be here telling you should be scared, but there is
thing to be scared to tell you. Are you are
you reprising your your role of the old man's sitting
on Because what I'm scared of, right is that, Okay,
Baseball is going to say we're gonna make this. What
Rob Manford wants to do is have travel be easier,
rivalries be easier, make it all. I'm scared that if

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because I don't want my team loaded up in a
division where it's going to be a knockdown, drag out,
bare knuckle boxing fight, blood on the floor, hair on
the walls to get to the playoffs, because that ain't fair,
because what are you already have that? What I'm looking
at me? Come on, we got come on, man, we're okay.

(28:39):
I mean you got yeah, I got the Braves and
the Phillies, but that's fine, you know I got you
got the teams like the Nationals and the Marlins. But
what I'm scared of, this is what all teams should
be scared of, is that all contenders teams that are
in big markets, that you're gonna load me up and
make it make it really difficult for me to get
out of my division. Like the division is going to
be the Mets and the Yankees and the phill are

(29:00):
all gonna be in the same division, and and you
got to throw in the next loest probably is the Pirates. Right,
you can have those teams and one team that's terrible,
But okay, that's not really fair that you're throwing three
big market teams that spend a lot of money that
are better than most year in and year out, say hey,
here's how you make the playoffs win.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Suddenly it's gonna be the Brewers and the.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Reds and you know, and the and the Rays or whatever,
the Rays and the Marlins are gonna be in the
same division.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's not fair, man.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
And that's what I'm afraid of, is that bag, Because
how can you say we're gonna we're gonna make it
geographically beholden and make it great for everybody, and not
have the Mets and Yankees in the same division, right,
not have the White Sox and Cubs and the same
whatever it's going to be, although Cubs fans and be
happy with that. But that's what I'm afraid. That's the
real thing to be afraid for Most teams like, yeah, hey,
can't get any worse, right if you're a if you're
a team in the bottom half of Major League Baseball,

(29:50):
you're like, hey, maybe I get lucky and I get
in a division where we can make some hay right now,
who knows, maybe that could happen. Maybe the the the
American League or the National League South is gonna be
the the Braves are gonna say, we're gonna get the Marlins,
We're gonna get the Rais.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
You know who knows.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
But that's what I'm afraid of, is that you're gonna
take that my team, who's a big market team, is
gonna get loaded up where it's gonna be. Hey, man,
come on, you can't really expect this is not a
fair fight where three of the biggest market teams and
the biggest spenders are going to have to fight out
with each other every year to go to the playoffs,
unless you're adding wildcards, which you know, I got to
hear more of the plan. But that's what I'm afraid of,

(30:25):
that suddenly my team's going to get in a division
where it's really unfair to say, hey, here's how you're
gonna get out of it every year and get to
the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, just wait for part two of Rob Manver's plan
about the salarycap and here we go, or maybe actually
raising the floors so there is some competition. High pirates,
high white well white Sox have spent they just did
so terribly for a number of those years, and then realize,
well that did work, so why are we wasting money?
But all of that to say, look, the other is

(30:53):
to play my south Side Chicago hat is that? I
really hope the overtime has approved for all the extra
security and off police that will have to monitor those
series as they do each and every year as it
stands right now.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, but I mean I don't want to play you.
I don't want to play the Yankees nineteen times. Come on, man,
no think but think about what where you came from.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Right, We're just a few years removed from that, right,
that unbalanced schedule that everybody hated, especially in the say
the Al East, how terrible that was because you'd say, well,
what are the Rays doing?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
They've got nothing?

Speaker 4 (31:28):
No, no, they were still winning ninety games a year,
and they were a perennial thorn in the side, and
occasionally you'd have the Orioles be good for a year.
We'll see if they can find any continuity with this
young core they have now. But all of that to say, yeah,
I mean, trying to figure out what the competitive balances
is certainly something they've got to be taxed with, and

(31:48):
trying to figure out the economics of it is a
big part of it. Normally we try to distance ourselves
what's on the field, what's not. There's no way to
do that. It's like watching college football, all right, we
start saying, well, what what are the top twenty teams who.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Spends the most? Just put those on the board. Just
let's just do it.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Same thing with major League Baseball nine times out of
ten unless the injury bug and that voodoo thing you
were doing earlier starts showing up in spades. But when
we're looking at it and going forward, yeah, I would
be concerned, and I would certainly be lobbying if I'm
if I'm the Cohen, if I'm Sternsy and all the
guys getting in the room and saying, look, this is

(32:26):
not good for baseball because what You're gonna put all
the habs in one division to fight it out, and
someone else gets a free pass because they happen to
be twenty million dollars bigger spenders than everybody else that's
dragging their feet. No, I mean, that's one of the
big thresholds they have to cross. But since we've changed
everything else in baseball, why not draw you know, out
of a hat or a bingo tumbler.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swallen dos thing. That's
what's to be afraid of as a baseball fan. Time
out to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports. I'm someone who's been called the Rob Manfred
of Fox Sports Radio. Oh wow, it's her goal in
life to give a hunk of medal to somebody important.
Except instead of a hunk of metal, it's a Dodgers bobblehead.

(33:08):
It's Monty belogyas.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, Now you're negative five, ell Rob, Come on, Jason, Well,
we have a lot of power and you get paid
a lot of money.

Speaker 8 (33:18):
I mean, I guess, but Man, you are the dumbest
commissioner out there.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
No, no, wow else. Look at that, Hey, Batman, you
moved up the list.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
Yeah, this guy. No, I'm always gonna hate uh Rob
Manfred because of twenty seventeen, just the way he handled
that cheating. I'm never gonna forget him. So anyway, we'll
move on here.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
To baseball guys.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Extra innings between the Yankees and the Rays. It's the
bottom of the tenth. The Rays still have all of
their outs and they have a man on second and third.
The Yankees managed to extend their lead in the tenth inning.
First it was gian Carlos stan with a two run
shot than Austin Wells homeward for the second time in
this game. So Yankees up six to four of the

(34:00):
tenth inning, but again the Race have all their outs here.
The A's have taken the lead also in the tenth
inning against the Twins in Minnesota. It's now four to
two top of the tenth. The Rangers have taken the
lead from the Royals six to three. Bottom of the
ninth inning. About to start in Kansas City, Reds and
Angels tied at one apiece after four Indians Padres are
shutting out the Giants at home three zero bottom of
the third inning, and it has been all Rockies so

(34:23):
far against the Dodgers in Colorado. Shoheo Twani started things
off on the mound for the Dodgers. He pitched five innings,
gave up nine hits and five earned runs. It's six
to one bottom of the eighth inning about to start
in Colorado. What happened earlier today? While the Nationals top
the Mets five to four and the Cubs held on
four to three against the Brewers and the Marlins, if
he did the Cardinals six to two, Kyle Schwarber home

(34:44):
run number forty five of the season. He leads the
National League now with that one. As the Phillies completed
a three game sweep of the Mariners, coming out on
top at eleven to two. In NFL news, the Chiefs
are sending wide receiver Sky Moore to the forty nine Ers.
The teams are going to swap six and seventh round
picks in twenty twenty seven. The forty nine Ers need
another running back or another wide receiver or two because

(35:04):
the league has suspended their wide receiver to Marcus Robinson
for the first three games of the regular season for
violating the league's substance abuse policy. The Vikings traded defensive
tackle Harrison Phillips and the seventh round pick to the
Jets for two six round picks, and the Broncos are
sending wide receiver Devon Bailey to the Saints.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Back to you guys, thank you very much, mam, Yes, jas.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
No want.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I want that big hunk of metal Key k Hernandez
Bobble had come in my way in about a week
or so.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
I want.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, well he's also coming back. Let's go. He is
coming back. Yes, yes, I know. Excited.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Coming up next, we got the play of the day
and a bold prediction that really, when you think about it,
ain't quite that bowl.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
That's next right here, Jason and Mike. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on
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Speaker 1 (36:05):
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UMGC dot Edu. Well, big goings on in the NFL today.
The Cowboys say Micah Parsons Week one, Brian Schottenneimer says,
I'm feeling it. Yeah, Is Caleb Williams Tyson pagent the

(36:41):
same quarterback storyline from a decade ago?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
We want to know? Joining us now in the hot
line to break it all down.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Longtime friend of the show, NFL Insider are extraordinary, Jason
Locke and fora odyssey Washington Post one oh five seven
the fan in Baltimore, Jay, what's happening?

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Man? Hey?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
First of all, well, I know it was a very
difficult day. You held your breath for a long time.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Today the Lamar Jackson injury at practice turned out to
be okay and he is fine going forward. But I
can imagine what that must have been there for about
ninety minutes there in Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Yeah, I was actually not only Rady in tonight. I
was to tell him back from a trip with Fun
Boys to Sunway Park. So I was just following on
the internet while I did some other work. But yeah,
just seems to be at least what they're saying. Nothing
to see here, gotas footstepped on should be good to go. Obviously,
pay any attention to the Raven final. Okay, and you

(37:37):
play anyone who has much of a chance to be
a starter outside of select rookies at all in the preseason,
and even those select rookies like you know, Mike Green
and Malachi Starks are expected to pretty much start right away.
I don't think they're going to play in the third game.
And obviously Lamar that doesn't do anything but watch these

(37:58):
preseason games. Yeah, it seems like nothing to see here,
but anything with Lamar is obviously freak out territory. So
when you so, you when you.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Were driving where you're driving home and you saw that,
did you say hey? And you pulled over and had
one of your kids drive Hey? I got to keep
hitting refreshed on social media, see what's happened.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
We were we were on a train. We were on
a train, So you know, I could have Twitter up
and work on some columns for the Washington Post and
make some phone calls and sort of do all the
things I do. So yeah, I love the train. They
killed them to be on the train for like six
hours today when they're like, we could have we could
have flown and done it in like forty five minutes.

(38:40):
But I don't like the fun anymore, so I love
the train.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
So yeah, there you go, tell them to take a nap.
It'll all be good, as we will look at ahead
of here, Jason. For the week that has been Daniel
Jones named the starter in Indy? What what do they
do in Indy with Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 8 (38:57):
Now?

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Well, I don't know that you have to be in
a hurry to do anything with him now, because how
long before they get sick of Daniel Jones? I mean,
I you know, I saw him a couple of weeks
ago against Braven's backups with my own eyes from the
fifty yard line, and it was pretty shameful. You know.
It was better than Anthony and Richardson not being able

(39:21):
to diagnose the free blitzer and have his finger get
them back. When he had turned his head forty five degrees,
he could have dispatched the ball through his hot bread.
So it did clear that hurdle. I guess so far
with Daniel Jones, but I don't think he's you know,
I don't think he's going to run away and hide,
And that looks to me like a team that's probably

(39:42):
gonna need an all hands on deck quarterback approach. So yeah,
I don't know that this one is, you know, coming
to a head like all of a sudden right away.
I guess it's inceivable, you know that they get some
sort of offer and want to make the move. But
I it's not like this is him being you know,

(40:05):
knocked off the perch by some hotshot rookie. He is
the hot like see them one. They've actually invested in
anything invested in Daniel Jones, So I'd be surprised if
something came together in the next week that kept him
off their roster.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Jason Locking for our guest Jason Smith Mike Carmon live
from Fox Sports Radio Studios. Right now you add that
phrase all hands on decad quarterback. Today, the Bears a
lot of pomp and circumstance, giving Tyson Bagent a two
year contract extension could be worth as much as sixteen million,
make him the highest paid backup in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
This I see this situation.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I go, this is RG three and Kirk Cousins with
Washington all over again, like, Hey, we have our guy
that we think is going to be great, but we're
really not sure. So we're going to make sure we
hold onto that back up and take care of him
because if things go bad this year, this is the
guy we're going to turn. Like, I don't think the
Bears do all of this for Tyson Page unless they think, hey,

(41:04):
if things go bad this year, he's going to be
our quarterback. We're not sold on Caleb Williams.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Yeah, I don't see it that way. Okay, it's ten
million dollars, you know. I mean, it's not jump change,
but it's it's nothing in the world of quarterbacks. Yeah.
I think they like him. Obviously, he's a feeling good story.
He's run around out there for them a few times.

(41:31):
I think it's a pretty rudimentary style of play. I'm
room for the kid. Everybody's room for the kid. They
do a lot of weird stuff there, man, I mean
there's people trying to crown them forever. But I don't
see it. What is this fun office done that's been
particularly like that that's been real effective, Like just clue
me in, like outside of winning headlines and like getting

(41:53):
a lot of attention, and I guess, like just tell
me because like I'm just looking at that, you know,
wins and losses and like money spent, you know, when
you know what their draft classes have given them and everything.
Like I don't really understand a lot of what goes on.
The hell I haven't for a long time. They've been

(42:13):
a pretty horse flee board. Like I think this is
just them, you know, taking care of somebody they like.
And I don't know, man, Like, if it doesn't work
with Terriaboyams, I got news for you, Like this, securing
this kid for an extra year or two isn't going
to matter. They're all going to be thrown out like

(42:34):
I did. I mean not Ben Johnson, But like I
don't think you get Ben Johnson in there and finally
win that bidding war because of this thing you just
took first overall. And you're telling me you know a
guy who was a hell of a time completing a
past galfield, Like who's like all guts and you know,
like let them run around and take a hit and

(42:54):
throw the back. Come on, Like, no, Ben Johnson didn't
go to work with badget dude, Like there's no blea
the way. Like if it doesn't work with Calem're you're
onto something else. And like maybe this guy helps you
get to a half season if Caleb gets hurt and
then in the off season you decide to move on.
But ain't nobody going to be like, well, wait a minute,
let's let's sit all this out like the arch Manning's

(43:17):
coming out, or it doesn't matter, like we've got We've
got you know, we've got our guy. I just think
it's your backup quarterback.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Well, I hear you, but I'm gonna I'm go give
you this. But Bears, I mean divide, remember Bears, Remember Bears.
It's the Bears.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Well, I mean, I think the Bears part of it
is thinking you had to do this now, Like I mean,
like all right, yeah, look, I don't think there's gonna
be any feeding frenzy for five year after the season,
But look if they really like to have them in
the building, and they think I mean, I think they
probably look at it as he's the perfect backup for Caleb,

(43:56):
and like, I think those two probably get along really well.
And I think the new coach must really like him,
and so it's like, what the hell, all right, you know,
he wants to be here, We want to keep him.
Like I haven't a chance to look at the full
structure of the contract, but I mean, we're talking stand
minimal guarantees for that position. Like that's just the reality.

(44:20):
So you want him to feel good about himself. You
want to reward him for being a great kid and
you know, taking some hits and some early football game
for you the last couple of years, and you know,
it is a great story. And he's done a whole
hole of a lot more at the pro level than
he really did a coach. So like, I mean, clearly
they feel like he has value, But I think that
value is in a lot of things other than trying

(44:42):
to get through, you know, sixteen or seventeen football games
with this tact like as you're starting quarterback. I just
don't I don't think that even they would view it
as that he.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Just encapsulated fifty years of my life.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
In a very briefing opice, it's Jason Locket for our Yes,
Washington Post five seven the fan there in Baltimore at
Jason locking for where you find him on x slash
the Twitter verse. As we go forward, all right, Schottenheimer
over in Dallas saying he's confident that for the opener
against the Eagles, his guy will be there. Micah's sitting

(45:17):
there the photo scene around the world. It's now eleventh hour. Jared, Jared,
who blinks.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Well, I mean, look, I think they get they pay him.
I mean, that's what these things generally in a certain way,
and it's with Jerry making somebody, you know, bestowing the
highest this or that on somebody, the highest mop front money,
the highest money in the first three years of the
contract for any player in this position, the highest signing bonus.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Like.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
I mean, that's where we're headed, and it probably gets
done in time for Week one, uh, I mean, the
facing the Eagles, They're going to need him. I'm gonna
get their asses kicked with them and without them, but
you got to leave need him to put up some
some with them a fight. I mean, I think Jerry
probably will blank and Leko will get what he wants,

(46:09):
and all this won't have really served anybody well, most
notably that particular football team with the rookie head coach
that's kind of prepared to face the world champions in
games that start mattering real soon here and it all
has just been you know, just what he wants. The
prelude and the preamble is more important and more sort

(46:33):
of part of the business model. And more tied to
selling you know, all this drama and getting people to
buy in literally with their pocketbooks. Then I think it's
actually about the football product itself. They've been patently mediocre
for the most part with him, and I think that's

(46:53):
what they'll be again this year. And yeah, I think
it probably will be with I know.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Lastly, Jay, as we say, saw today some minor trades
made across the NFL.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
The Jets get a couple of defensive linemen, the Saints get.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
A wide receiver. Obviously Micah Parsons situations is there. We
also have the Terry McLaurin situations, We have Kirk Cousins.
Do you see any any yet? Do you see any
big moves being made, any big trades being made between
now in the beginning of the season, nor really just
be more like, hey, we saw the smaller depth moves today,
the linemen going on.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Do you see something big happening the next ten days?

Speaker 5 (47:28):
I think the McLaren thing and the Henderson thing both there.
They're monitoring. Like Mike No, like I said, he's gonna
get his bag. It's just a matter of when and
is it in time for Week one? That maybe not,
But it won't be long thereafter those other two though,
I think there's there's clearly been a disconnect and there's

(47:50):
a longer history there, and those guys have done these
contractual dances with the organization before. This is Mike A's
first real chance, you know, by the Apple. So I
think it's a little more personal there. I think it's
a little more visceral there. Those situations are a little
more complicated. Like, you know, Jerry just made back the
highest paid quarterback. You got no choice, really, but the

(48:12):
mate might got a hight paid defensive player. I think
everybody associated in that stupid Kabooki dance knows it. Again,
it's just a matter of when they put hurting up
and then start getting their ass kicked. And you know, again,
football games that matter. These other ones are trickier and
more complicated, and I think there's just a like whether
it's on the player's side, whether it's on the owner's side.

(48:35):
I think there's a little more of an edge to
it and a little more bad blood, and those guys
might be might have to be a little more stuck
in and so yeah, I think it's conceivable that they're moved.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
He's on Twitter at Jason Lock and for that is
at Jason Lock and for a Jay as always, buddy,
appreciate it, my friend. We'll talk Todax's week as we're
previewing the regular season.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Look forward to it. Thanks guys, be good, buddy, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Look, yeah, you know, it's a great point where that
Jason made there about how you look Micah Parsons going
on with the Cowboys. This is something that is new
to him right first time. There's a lot of emotions.
But Hendrickson and McLaurin, there's a history there. The players
have been there for a while. They're both almost thirty.
There's a lot of and as you know, the more
history you have with someone, the easier it is to

(49:25):
dig in or say at this point, I'm ready to
move on. And the thing is, like you would think
Hendrickson would have the Bengals over a barrel here after
that defensive effort in their last preseason game where it's
four rushes down the field for eighty yards and a
touchdown in the opening drive.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, but how did I sum that up?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Pana Uh, you summed it up by saying you can
suck with him, and you can suck without it, Damn right,
nothing has changed in my opinion. But you know, but
that's a great point because remember, when it gets personal,
that's when things get really difficult.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
And that's why for me, the Parsons thing is a
bigger deal.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I know, Jason's listen, he's gonna get his money and
all that, and Jerry's gonna do it's his first time here,
but this is really seems to be deeply personal for
Micah Parsons right now. Even though it's the first time,
it still seems personally. I went on social media and said,
I no longer want to be here. This guy that's
been a cowboy for a couple of years. It's not
like a you know, it's starting his second year, he's
been there for a bit. It is. It is much

(50:24):
more emotional and much more personal for him than I
think people want to let on about that.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Well, but I think that's where you know, you owed
some of the fact that Micah is a very social
media active guy, between his own podcast and what he's
posted on socials for situations not dealing with Zone. Go
back to something I cited last week with his you
know where he was saying, hey, those college guys got

(50:49):
to get in camp.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
You know that you signed your deals, go make you
deals like people are like holding up.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
You know the Michael Jordan thing where he's sitting there
from the last dance when he throws his arms up
like see what did I tell you?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
So you know some of that comes back on you.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
But yeah, it's personal, right, all your no matter even
if you have the buffer of your agent in this case,
Jerry and the workaround, as we've talked about with Jason Cole,
all of those things they're they're there is a buffer. Well,
sometimes that buffer gets pushed away at a frenzied media
because you are such a star, and yeah, you're gonna
get in your fields. You're gonna get into your your

(51:25):
your head a bit. You know, do they do they
love me as much as I love here, because it's
clear to me, you know, as much as folks can
dismiss it. Anytime you see a shot of him on
the sideline, he looks like a guy who's ready to
run in without pads or a helmet, right. He looks
like he's a guy that don't give anything to be
on that field because that's where he knows the world
makes sense. Jerry popping off about injuries and whatever else.

(51:49):
That that's a whole world he's not used to, right
because he's he's been the chosen one all along. So yeah,
sometimes it's that harsh reality. But in the end, what's
gonna happen? Here's a giant novelties as check. Hey, it
was all good show, wasn't it. I mean that'll be
episode twelve or whatever the add on is for this
Netflix show.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
While it's all said and none.

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