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September 9, 2025 35 mins

Jason and Mike dive into the Bears loss to the Vikings on Monday night. Is Harmon too happy about the Bears loss? Jason compares the Bears loss to the Ravens loss. The guys give Kevin O'Connell credit for his coaching on Monday. Plus, did Cairo Santos blow the game for Chicago?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, you can all laugh at me for the rest
of the night. Now I want to and the rest
of the week. It's no longer about your sixty yard
field goal.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I want to I want to bring this up here
for some Yeah, because I'm feeling about this. Huh. We
watch the Bears absolutely collapse in a game that boy,
I don't know who had a worse loss. The Bears
are the Ravens, a game they were dominating for the
first two and a half quarters. Decided to stop playing,
watch JJ McCarthy make plays, and then have your head
coach make the biggest bonehead, indefensible decision. I could of

(01:32):
kicking off with two oh two left to go, and
because they didn't on side kick try to get the
ball or kick it out of bounds, they only got
the ball back with ten seconds left instead of getting
it back with close to a minute. It's indefensible. Now,
I say all this because I have a question for you.
Oh you're gonna bring in bursh And and Alex Tishirt

(01:53):
as well, sure, right, knowing that you are the you
have you have been the biggest Chicago Bears fan that
I know, and.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I wear it all right the first half of my
life Southside Chicago, and I'm not still living there.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Not impeaching, not you don't live there. You live in
Los Angeles. I'm saying, heart is still there. It's Chicago.
But I gotta ask you this. Yeah, you seem too
happy after this Bear's loss. No, I mean, look, I
don't live and die with it the way I did
when I was twelve. You just just did a whole

(02:26):
thing about how you know born my blood is there
and all this time too happy. It's not happy. You
seem happy, Tay Shirt. And Birsch does Harmon seem a
little too happy tonight? He doesn't seem beat up. There's there. Okay,
the energy is still there for sure. Oh no, no,
that's good. I'm good. But you said, okay, all right,
Ty Shirt. Yeah a little more than normal, okay, Oh

(02:48):
so even happier than normal.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I am running on low sleep and a lot of caffeine.
I'm revving up from that. But it's also it's it's
an energy of a week one of the National Football
League season and seeing the Bears in prime time, and
let's face it, we had a tale of nine games
within one. Oh no, no, look this is great, so
like it goes next level to that. So now we
put our thinking caps.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
But it's great for the ninety nine percent of the
people that that are happy to see the Bears fail
because they're a train wreck and want to see Caleb
Williams fail for some ridiculous ring. Sure, I get I
get the happiness for those people. I get that. I
got the I don't get. You see him a little
too very spunky.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Little too yeah, a little too like, hey, yeah, in
the show me some cards, you know, very happy you're
showing cards.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I saw something I pulled after the show on Friday.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I bought into a WWE break and hit the rock
in my character potential Oscar winner the rock, right.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I got a snore lack and then mega charge is hare.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I got a case hit rock that might actually be
like a two thousand dollars card.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
That's time I'm having me. Jason was the streets of
Vegas trying to show me cards. You know, it was like, well, no,
that's the guy that comes up. Dude's that's follow the queen.
Do you ever be like we used to trade with the.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Waiters at the steakhouses because they'd have them in their binder.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
It's like, oh, I don't have that one. Can I
get that one? It was cool used to trade cards
with waiters.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, but the strip clubs you get handed on the about.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
He knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
So you're walking by and the guy does the little slap,
but he tries to hand you for for different services
and venues, and sometimes he's like, all right, I get
I gotta see what.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I don't know that I've ever been to a strip club.
There's a male waiter. I don't know. I'm not saying
you actually went to the strip club.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, I'm saying you then go into a restaurant and
the guy's taking the order, and you know, you're laughing
at what Why do you have to.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Go to a strip club before? Why did you just
say we go to a restaurant, went to a strip club?
Didn't he say strip club? The cards cards are strip clubs.
So he's not at the car. No, you don't buy that.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
They hand you on the street trying to get you
to go to a venue, so they pay.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
People to stand there.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
And as you're walking by, you got street performers, buskers,
you got all sorts of craps, like there was a gun,
would be show girl that chases you down and you
try to snap a photo and then You've got guys
trying to give you cards that they're paid by these
strip clubs and other adult and you went.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
But you went from cards knowing cards, packs that you
open and all these things. You went from cards to cards.
You're getting the I'm picturing you at a strip.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Club saying to you, as a guy that's never walked
the strip, get somebody.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Walking up and saying, yeah, how much will you? I
know we have I know we have the dancer coming out.
You can hear Cherry Pye. I know you know thinks
songs coming up. But how much you give me for
this unopened tops from nineteen eighty four?

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Mike, you could be honest something imagine a PSA ten
chastity card.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, I think there's that. I mean there have been
different cards, not a strip club, I don't think. So,
you're just getting a great comp stage.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Three, and then they're by rarity because if you're actually
stage one, the rarest of the card because you have
the prime viewing sp Yeah, no, I get.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
It, okay, one of ones. As opposed to the.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Day shift, those are like the commons that well, the
day shift in a strip club is where that the
cops all walk in naturally have the investigations at in movies.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well, we got to go to the strip club and
see dom Dom knows what happened. T's see if let's
see if the video was working that night or whatever
it is. What's the box, Tom said? Tom says it's
not working, okay. And then and of course the one
dancer says, I know what happened to Candy come to
I'm not supposed to tell you because the dom will
get mad. But Candy was here at four o'clock and
then she left. I don't know why. It's left with

(06:32):
some guy who was really weird. I had a mustache on.
He looked the bad guy from from Sleeping with the Enemy,
because he really was like a bad guy.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
That sounds like the plots hangover.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
And then and then the guy was on a bed
at the top of a hotel.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
It was really really weird. And Ken Jong was there.
Oh he went and talk to a stripper, didn't they.
I swear that I was Heather Graham, but I'd been
the rollerver the cop movies. Yeah, she fell off different,
different differ. No, come on, Heather Graham, come on, fell off.
Stop stop with that stop that's.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Eight seven seven ninety nine. You had all the credibility
and now you just lost put the whole questions lost.
Come on, hang on, she fell.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Off anyway, So you took me into a strip club
that you missed it, and it showed you never walked
the strip swollen dome at Fox Sports Radio and.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
You just how about a fress. You just went from
from strip club from from buying cards and cards you
pulled out in packs and then you said cards at
a strip club. So it was this. It's like it
was the same thing transition. You didn't delineate between the two. No,
that was a transition done completely in your head. Because
I look, they were on board with me. They understood

(07:35):
what I was talking about. Like burs was doing this
symbol the whole time. Burschh had his finger over the
dump button, going I don't know where this is going.
This is categorically I'm ready to press.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
He's more likely to do that about the Dodger bullpen
than he is about me.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Bottom line. Bottom line is sorry about the four grounding
out with the bases loaded. Sorry about that it happens.
Uh yeah yeah to him, Yeah you didn't. Let's not
get this pass. Let's say that past the fact that
really you seem too happy after this Bear's loss, like
you're still wearing your Bear's hat, throw it down and discuss. Yes. No, yes,

(08:12):
that's how it works, dude. This is one of the
worst losses your team could possibly terrible on a million levels. Yes,
and you seem too happy. You're happy?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
What do we cheer for at the root of everything,
As much as we have our individual fandom for the
teams that we have, we want chaos in between the
white lives.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Did we not get that in spades?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yes, what we did. No. I just think like the
whole thing, like, you seem a little too hey, it's okay,
Like it's a little like it's no, I'm worried about
you that you're not you're not accepting how bad a
loss this is for you, and you're kind of in shock.
That's where I'm going with this, is that I don't
think you've really accepted how bad this has been for

(08:54):
you guys tonight. Oh No, it's miserable, there's no question
about it.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Not what I have that Wyatt moment in my head later,
like right now, we're doing a show that broadcast America,
and that.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
The people want, but people want the I mean, I'm
worried about you that you know, the real you is
like this is this is like take off your hat
and squeeze it in your hands, like that's kind of
your thing. And no, no, no, that that No, that's
a that's a guy's thing that does walks and people
kiss his ass wherever it goes. That's not me. I
really don't think you have processed just how bad a
loss this has been for the Bears, for your team.

(09:25):
I don't think you do not see the laundry list
of things. I said to our boss.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I think because he tried to throw the hey, that
pass interference just kind of buggs and it was.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
It was a terrible call. McCarthy under threw the receiver
by a good five six yards, so it becomes one
of those I got good coverage and he has to
stop to account for a terribly thrown ball. But the
rules are the rules, so that goes. And then I
immediately put together what was that a list of like, right,
but you're you're flying through this very with very much

(09:53):
of a linear style of and this bad play was bad,
and this was but there I feel like it's it's
not really affecting you. It's like I've done a lot
of work. It's kind of in your brain, but it's
not really in your brain. It's like it's it's like
you're really understanding what's happening here, right Like Ben Johnson, Dude,
you understand you got to on side kick or kick

(10:14):
it out of bounds on this file, Like yeah, yeah,
we're just gonna kick it in the end zone. Yeah,
but but you realize they're gonna run it out. You're
gonna lose time off the clock. Yeah yah yah, yeah
yeah yeah yeah. No, I don't think you really realize
that now, folks.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Folks are mad at me that I'm not, you know,
smashing cameras. I mean, there's some great equipment in here.
I mean that's probably five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I mean I could do that. I don't talk about
smashing a question. I can throw it. I don't throw
stuff through TVs and whatever. I could do that. No, no, no,
I'm not saying you need to be doing that. I
just think that I look in your eyes and I
and I think, like, I don't know what you're seeing
right now. It's like you're in Ready Player one where
here's the world and here's this virtual world where any
things I don't, I don't I'm worried about you.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Well, I come come back to this and you know,
I'll put the heart on the sleeve. Last few years
have not been easy. No, it has not a lot
of stuff. I'm I just talking about the bears.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I'm talking about but this is all my team saw.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
But this is this is you know, in the real world,
we've had some great triumphs, but we've had some challenges, right,
A lot of doctor visits, a lot of that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Don't wear that out.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
So when my coach is a bonehead like the coach
before him, I just say, next man up, as opposed
to getting really upset about it.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, he was supposed to be chosen. You have to
accept that before. But that's the problem is I'm accepting
that that point. Here's the thing. I think in the
levels of grief with this Bear's loss, you skip over
acceptance like it's like, yeah, if I don't really accept it,
it didn't really happen. I can talk about it very
abstractly because you're talking about it very well abstractly. I'm
doing a great job.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I've broken down this game like these champions, all these
coaching points and all this.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
But I'm worried that you're not You're not really accepting
what happened.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
No, I appreciate, you know. I might eat my feelings later,
I might tell to order some wings. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, I don't think you're really accepting. No.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
No, this is crushing because it's a Division game. You
know how I feel about Division games week one. But
here we are, and we got a thriller. Right, it's close,
it's late, so it becomes an instant classic. That's the
way it works. But you're looking at a Bears squad
to where it becomes the same old song and dance.
Steven Tyler's back and performing, so I can quote quote

(12:21):
Aerosmith as we go. So when I see a Bear's
team do this. After the first half, which was pretty
much a dominant half, dominant but dominant with reservations. Even
though Caleb Williams had statistically right completetion percentages high taking
what's there not a bunch of negative plays, they also

(12:44):
didn't take shots downfield. And I brought that up at
the time, right off the jump right of he had
guys open, but did the checkdown safe play. That's what
led you to the record you had last year and
a lot of the questions of whether he was going
to be ready for prime time. So while they had
a lead, it was helped by that pick six to

(13:05):
help extend it. They scored on that opening possession. They
ended the streak of games where they didn't have a
touchdown on an opening drive. Fantastic. After that, they managed
three points, including a bunch of coaching decisions long before
the Vikings offense came to life right shooting a field goal,
missing a fifty yard field goal, and then Caleb Williams

(13:27):
started to revert to some of the bad and you
could see it happening.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
It started to spiral right.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Remember Dante Culpepper forber Viking Star, his big celebration was
he would start.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Doing that momentum when they started going.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I could see that coming from a mile away, like
a snowball rolling down a hill.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
All right, Just to let you know, all that being said,
I'm going to keep an eye on you the rest
of the show.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I want to make sure I'm not drinking. I've got
a cup of coffee and some water. I'm really sad
because the packers throttled the lions on the other side. Yuh,
so they're gonna be good. I'm gonna I bet now
you lose to the Vikings week one.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
We could. I think we're gona keep an eye on you.
We're keep an eye on because again, it's it's it's
it's gonna hit you at some point and then it's
gonna get really bad. No, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I've for got a bunch of people checking in its
telling me that they've loaded up on the iHeartRadio app.
Take us with you wherever you go, all across the globe. Uh,
send it to friends and family. It's the best gift
that you can give. I mean, hair, let me borrow
your phone from it. No, I don't want to look
through your photos. I want to give you the gift
the iHeartRadio App. So you can listen to us die

(14:35):
a little bit with our teams me you, And that's
what we do here, right. We celebrate the good things
and then we recognize when things look like they did
the year before.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
All right, that's hope. It's a dangerous thing, but this
is a new start for you. It's a new everything.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
By the way, next week who do they get Wait
for it, wait for the Lions. Yeah, yeah, well you
get It'd be easy to give Ben Johnson back after
next we just walk across the field. They'll be good.
You give us Montgomery because clearly you shouldn't be giving
him the ball, but we like him still and we
still need to run the football. Well, so we'll take him.

(15:11):
You take Ben Johnson back, make him your ROC because
clearly you miss him after week one and we call
it even. All right, then great, we'll bring back eber
Flus or Lovey and uh hey, at least then we
have we have great storylines. Why do you hate me?
So I'm just saying, what are you doing? See is
getting you attention? Now? Now I got your attention. Now
you back in the real world here. Now, by the way,
polls won the off season, you step up in that

(15:33):
up in that virtual reality world where they you're back
and you're back on Earth. Now you're back on Earth now, you.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Just because I can cogently put together an argument and
supplement the anger you said.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
You've said cojin now four times and you meant to
say bagent all right, so I know that I know
that about you. That's happened. Now, what are you doing?
Just so you know, because you know there's a bunch
of knuckleheads in Chicago right now in the post game,
you meant to say bagic, he said, coachin that's already
starting to say. There's not many words at N G
E N T and those are two of them and
one's a proper name. All right, Just want to make

(16:08):
just know that.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, should I make a shirt that has that that
we're doing basically like a wheel of fortune where I've
got the missing first two letters and you have to
guess it and it's ge nt.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
What word do I have on my chest? Exit? Up
bout a Fresca, Exit, swollen dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon,
I hate you the Fox Sports Radio studios. We can
keep it night again. We're gonna keep a eye on
you coming up next. You have more from this game.
Can't wait to hear Ben Jonson what he has to say.
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(16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:50):
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you know, now that I've had a couple more minutes
to think about it, I'm million good now you're back
in the real world. Like, oh, I think I'm more

(18:03):
mad at you that you've brought it out of me.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Like you were a therapist and I was laying down
on a damn couch wrap.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
There you go, now you run.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I was.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I was perfectly content, Like I've done with a lot
of things in my life.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I just bury it. I push it down. How you understand?
How now to the saw? You understand that train wreck
and epic fail that you had on Monday night? Now
you get it?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Now you understand just because you want me to be
in misery with you? Jets guy, you.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Want to hear the sixty yard field go again? You're
Fran Brown and Syracuse. Where are you guys go? We're
running sprints after winning that. I kind of appreciate that.
I got you were just wanting the replay of that.
I got your attention now running sprint, Yeah, I got
your attention. Now, Okay, we're not gonna do that as
Boswell is sixty yard at town snap on the way.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
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Speaker 3 (18:53):
You know what I've said for years, I'll see you
in hell. Yeah, yeah, that's it right there. You want
to bring me to my own bears torture. Yeah, I'm
bringing you right back down to the fucking there.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh, I realize all that. I'm very confident and that
I know what's going in. Your streak got broken because
you didn't make a pick. So there, streak didn't get broken,
It just it just is suspended for a day. Why
that's stupid. If you fail to make a pick. No,
you know, if a guy doesn't play, his hitting streak
is still going. Guys, I'm playing a game. Is hitting
streak is still going. It's not my fault. We didn't

(19:25):
make a pick, and Dad, it's not my fault.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
But you're not just picking a guy. You're picking from
a major league baseball sleep. Come on, Walt, you're better
than that. See I'm going to deflect onto wall. That's okay,
he gets my anger. Dam the ghost of flus Well
here from Ben Johnson coming up in a couple of minutes.
But to give credit here to Viking, said coach Kevin O'Connell,

(19:48):
who everybody wanted fired in the first half of this game.
This is why I love social media, because the first
half of this game was O'Connell needed to go. JJ
McCarthy was never gonna be any good. Caleb Williams was great,
and all of a sudden things just change, right. But
the couple of things to give credit that Kevin O'Connell
did to turn this game from the Vikings into the

(20:09):
Vikings favor is that after the pick six, it's seventeen
to six, right, and the Bears feel like they've won,
and again they're change in body language and demeanor following
seventeen to six was it's a party, almost like it was.
It's a home playoff game and we just had a
big play to clinch it. Now the stands are yelling
and we're just got our shoulder pads off on the
sideline and we're just all excited.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I don't think it's been louder in the Soldier field
outside of you know, like coldplayer or somebody plays. It's
still midway through the third quarter. And what happens in
a game when that goes on, and we've said this
is that you keep giving the ball back to a
team they can't figure it out. Eventually they're going to
figure it out. And the Bears couldn't sustain a drive,
they couldn't put more points on the board, and they

(20:52):
kept giving it back to the Vikings who eventually, hey,
we figured out what to do. And I give Kevin
O'Connell so much credit because this game is when it's
seventeen six midway through the third quarter, what do ninety
percent of coaches in the NFL say, Okay, let's just
let's just let them throw it, throw deep, take chances.
McCarthy's got to learn maybe this game isn't there for us,

(21:13):
but let him throw the football. Throw the football. We're
down eleven, and you get into that trap of we
gotta throw the football to get back into it. And instead,
what did the Vikings do, and really, you know, took
the to the Bears by surprise in the beginning and
then it just came to a point where they were dominant.
Is that they decided we are gonna run the football.
We're gonna run it. We're not gonna You're not gonna

(21:34):
be first down pass, second down pass, third down pass.
Maccarth it's gonna be first down run. We get a
first down, first down run, second down run, third down pass,
mixing things up. They ran the football a lot, and
they ran the football extremely well. In the second half.
Mason had big runs, good He was ripping off chunk
yardage for the most better part of the end of
the third quarter into the fourth quarter, and that allowed

(21:55):
things to settle for the Vikings. They started getting in,
getting in some momentum, and they had a big drive
down the field. McCarthy throws a touchdown, The defense gets up,
the stops the Bears. They get the ball back. What
do they do? They keep running the football, They get down,
McCarthy makes a pass us for a touchdown. All of
a sudden, the Bears are losing. Bears give the football back.

(22:15):
They run the football down the field. What does McCarthy do,
big scramble for a touchdown. There could have been a
lot of panic, and instead you saw what happened where
the Vikings and Kevin O'Connell say, no, let's just run
the football. There's plenty of time left for us to
do this because our defense is really holding the Bears down.
Well but right, the Vikers were top five, top seven

(22:36):
defense last year, still really good this year. Yes, missing
a couple of guys, but they're still really good, and
they were holding the Bears down. They had confident, Hey,
we know what we're doing here, right, Caleb Williams is
not getting loose on us. We're absolutely fine, So let's
run the ball, let's get back in it. And then
you saw the confidence level of the Vikings grow and
the confidence level of the Bears slip, and that body

(22:57):
language all of a sudden went from boy, the Bears
are running around like they want to dance, and suddenly
it's that they're looking at each other, and you see
the big looks and the eyes being closed and the
rolling of the eyes. You knew that they were in
their head. And that's Kevin O'Connell making a great non
panic decision that again, ninety percent of the rest of
the coach in the NFL would say, throw a throw
a throat, we got we're down eleven, let's go, let's go,
let's go tempo, let's get down the field. And instead, Hey,

(23:19):
plenty of time. And again not only did they did
they come back to tie the end, they came back
to the lead by ten points. Right. This wasn't just hey,
we came back and pulled it out at the end.
This is we came back and we were up by
ten at the end of the game. When they got
the ball back with two minutes left, to go in
the game. We're up by we're up by ten. Like,
that's an that's an insane amount of confidence and calmness

(23:39):
that he has. So yeah, everybody wanted him fired in
the first half. Hey, now it's like, ah, give the
guy an extend. He's the best coach. He's the best
young head coach of the NFL. Best coach is under
forty five. Kevin O'Connell. Guess that's what he did.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, I mean we watched through the first half and
as we came on air and we're talking about what
we'd seen to that point. The offense was non existent
for the Minnesota Vikings, But what did we see for
the Bears. You had a drive, right, and then you
had another drive that should have yielded points. Ben Johnson,
with his aggressiveness, decided, Hey, you know what, just like

(24:11):
in Detroit, this is gonna be the identity. They went
for it. They failed. Okay, crisis averted three points that
don't go on the board, or at least an attempt
at a field goal. Later on, the Bears have a
drive fifty yard attempt failed, but the defense was had
them in the game. After that first scripted possession and
they did the work, and Williams took what was afforded him,

(24:34):
didn't take any shots, to which we pointed out as
we came on air a couple of windows where it
looked like he had players down the field, but he
did the checkdown again owing the last year's decision making
of I'm not going to make the big mistake that
yields sixty eight sacks and a lot of a shot
chart that looked like minus five plus five around the

(24:55):
line of scrimmage, and he was doing that again. So
if you're Kevin O'Connell, Brian Flores, you're looking at a
going all right, they got one drive on us, so
you're not gonna panic because you've got a lot of
football left. Bears missing a couple of pieces of the
secondary that showed up a couple of times where McCarthy
had some really big throwing windows later on, But after
all of the early fails on third down conversions, the

(25:17):
feeling drop was the icing on the cake for the
early part of the narrative.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Run the football.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Mason when they did utilize them in the first half
was having success, and then he got behind the offensive
line and those three touchdown drives Jason one hundred and
seventy eight total yards on eighteen plays, right, I mean,
you're just talking chunk yardage, tired, staying on the field
longer drives, and the Bears going three and out right,

(25:43):
couldn't get out of their own way, couldn't establish much
in the run game with their trio of backs. And
then Caleb Williams made some unconscionable decisions that reverted to
some of those shades of his twenty twenty four rookie season.
The intentional grounding, the misthrow at Coole Kamet, and.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
That the throw just for Caleb Williams for a second
when they were down ten on that final drive right
or the last drive they scored points on to cut
it to twenty seven to twenty four. He had a
chance to get in the end zone easy two plays
before the touchdown where DJ Moore breaks open. He's incredibly

(26:21):
wide open, right, and all Caleb Williams has to do.
It's just him coming off the line. It's like a
blown coverage for the Vikings because he comes off the
line about ten yards up the field and there's nobody
on him, and he turns looking for the ball because
now He's at about the ten yard line right, this
play was snapped from about the thirty yard line. He's
at the ten yard line, turn around looking for the ball.
And not only does Caleb Williams instead of he just

(26:43):
got to throw it right in there, he's got it's
a touchdown. Not only does Caleb Williams overthrow him. Right
when DJ Moore gets to the pylon is when the
ball lands, and the ball lands maybe two feet from
the stands. So this this is not just he just
missed him. He overthrows Dj Moore by about fifteen yards.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
No thing like we're talking about Ynards pulling the string, right.
I talk about the Comet throw because I literally wrote
the word missile. We were talking to Jason locking for
at the time, and you looked at me because I
kind of threw my arms up because it was a
wide open throw that he just sailed over his head.
That it was like a ninety eight mile an hour
fastball over the top, no touch where Comet was wide open.

(27:29):
Later they would connect, but it took a circus act
acrobatics from Camet to pull the ball down. But the
throat of DJ Moore, I mean, there's no touch it's
just a rocket again over the top that just sails
so far beyond the plane surface that you know. He
looked back at the like Caleb to say what the hell,

(27:50):
and you could see the demeanor of the Vikings defenders
knowing they got away with a blown coverage because he
scraped across the middle and towards that left sideline all
by his lonesome.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I mean that that that throwed me from what he
went to from the first half of this game to
the confidence that he had. He started out ten out
of ten, Right, started out ten out of ten. Move
the team up and down the field. Yes, a little
bit more checked down, but okay, it's a new all
your movie the ball and you're winning. Right, you had
to touchdown. But the key was no negative plays, right,

(28:21):
that is, no negative plays and no turnovers. Right, no
negative plays, no turn wasn't getting sacked, wasn't turning the
ball over. Everything was incredible, and then it's suddenly it's
like a like a light was like a switch was flipped.
And because it's not like it's anything that that they
did to him, this was defensively, Hey, the Bears just
let down and all of a sudden callb Williams couldn't

(28:41):
do anything, and and and and he you know the
bad throw that we talked about there, stepping out of
bounds and throwing a ball trying to you know that
that intentional grounding throw that that that was awful that
he tried. Like all these things, suddenly it's like what happened?
But you add it all up, right, and we go
back to the coaching decision.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Indecision, bad decision, poor decision in terms of the kickoff
post touchdown to make it a three point game.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
You also had twelve penalties. That goes back on coaching too. Right.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
You might understand one or two here and there because
the reputation of what Minnesota does. You may have that
pre snap penalty because you see something or think you
see something of you know, an extra guy coming and attacking,
so you get a little bit of the flinch. You
gave up one hundred and twenty seven yards of penalties. Wow,

(29:35):
I'm telling you like discipline on a whole other level.
And for Caleb Williams, like going back to last year,
my biggest criticism of things the sixty eight sacks. You
decide how much is on him and on the offensive line.
That line wasn't good a year ago. They did a
lot to shore that up. And yeah, you don't take
the negative play, but you also have to occasionally take

(29:55):
a shot down the field. A lot was made last
year of his touchdown interception ratio.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's great. You know why didn't have a lot of
those interceptions. He took sacks, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And scrambled trying to make something happen and then just
went down here. It's like you'd rather the interception down
the field trying to make something happen every once in
a while. And I'm not saying that that's the part here,
but once they did try to stretch the field, there's
a lot of misses.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
In pretty open windows.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
So that that goes into Game two against Detroit team
that's gonna know Ben Johnson really well, and historically they've
come out really well coming out of losses. So the
point spread established and everything else, I would imagine they
watched and immediately are looking licking their chops over what

(30:42):
the run game is going to be able to do
against the Bears. So all of a sudden, you know,
the chess match moves on to Week two, but the
Bears with so many questions to answer.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
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Speaker 1 (30:59):
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There's coaching mistakes, and then there's Ben Johnson down three
with two to two left in the game. You have
two real choices here. You on side kick it because

(31:21):
you only have one timeout, or you make sure you
kick the ball out of bounds. What the Bears decided was, Hey,
Cairo Santos kicks the ball deep in the end zone.
Of course the Vikings bring it out because you want
to get that down to the two minute warning on
the change of possession, instead of the Bears winding up
giving the ball back to the Vikings and basically having

(31:42):
two timeouts, the two minute warning and their final timeout,
which in theory, if they stopped them on three downs,
would have given them the football back with maybe a
little bit under a minute left to go. That's time
to get down the field for a field goal. Because
they decided we're going to kick it deep and the
Vikings run it out. The Bears will get the ball
back until there's ten seconds left in the game, killing
any chance they had to win, right, And it's it's

(32:04):
it's insane that that was a decision that was made.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, you get on the other side of that two
minute drill. You gave up the extra five seconds right
one to fifty five.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Should be noted. And I know you've seen the replay.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Chandler thought about taking the knee and then you could
see the sideline losing their minds yea motioning for it.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
And you see and and and look and and and
another thing for for Kevin O'Connell yelling, bring it out,
bring it out right again, great head kill everybody, rung
it out, bring it out right, don't down it, bring
it out and bring them out, bring them out.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
And Ben Johnson explained after the game, Hey, what went
into that at the end? What went in that decision?
And here's what Ben Johnson, head coach of the Bears,
had to say. The intent was for the ball to
go out of the end zone?

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Was there?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Do you guys consider kick?

Speaker 5 (32:50):
How did that?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It did.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
We We felt like if we had kicked it out
of the end zone and gotten the three and out
that we got, we would get the ball back with
around fifty six seconds.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, so there you go, right, you would have had
but instead you got it back with ten seconds left.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Now, but it's still great is that you know the
guy actually has to kick it.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And that's the thing is like, Okay, you can say
I want you to kick it out of the end zone,
but sometimes that's like saying, hey, throw a fifty yard
touchdown on this play. Well, what do you mean do
you know we can kick it out of the end zone?
You know we can do it, because clearly he couldn't. Right,
clearly he couldn't because it was still about four yards
short of the end You got to make sure he
hits it well, hits it well enough. The things you

(33:27):
can control are an on side kick or kick him
out of bounds right, one of those things, because if
he doesn't kick it out of the end zone, guess what,
you just lost the game. And that's something that you
have to know as a coach. Okay, we're asking to
a little bit too much. It would seem easy, but
you got to know if your kicker can do that
or not. And Kyro Santos couldn't do it. Clearly didn't
get it done this time. I don't and I mean
the coach people.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Should be at his kiosk as well, right at his locker,
going what the hell happened on that kid?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
He's gonna say, I tried, I just did. I didn't
make it. I didn't, which is on the coaching staff
to know. Are we sure he can kick it through
the Are you sure you can kick it through the upbrads?
Can you kick it out of the end? And we sure?
This is where you throw your coach under the bus.
He does anything to me, he just had a go
out there. Just do your best. Oh thanks, coach, I
appreciate it. No, I mean that again. This is where

(34:13):
I take no moments and I go, are you really
up to being a head coach? Because there's great coordinators
and when it comes time for them to start running
the show, I go, being a head coach is too
much for you, Robert Sola, I understand.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I understand stairs Again, I got a lot of footage
of that.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
When you're the DC, you can jump up and down
with your with you with your players and all that
crazy ass stuff th Robert Sala like to do. Can't
do any of that stuff when you're the head coach, right,
But that's as you have to know that this is
something that you can't leave this to risk, and that's
leaving it to risk. Bill Belichick would have kicked it
out of the end What would have kicked it out
of bounds or gone for the on site cat? What
does it matter where you give them the football back

(34:49):
at right? Yes, you could start the ball back of
your twenty yard line, but you would have fifty seconds
get down to You're just trying to kick a field goal.
What do you You're trying to either outsmart yourself or
you didn't think of the possi. What if he doesn't
kick it out of bounds in the end zone? What
if he doesn't do.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I will say this as we've talked about ad nauseum.
We had Jason locking for the first hour of the show.
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Speaker 1 (35:11):
That'll go up.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Bush and Brandon and Alex will have that up making
it sound so pretty. We talked about some of the
coaching problems from John Harbaugh long tooth, long tooth. In
this business, even the best and long tenured guys still
screw things up. We have stuff on the screw up
of the Ravens last night against the Bills, plus evidence

(35:35):
from tonight's game between the Vikings and the Bears that
maybe artificial intelligence is not here to.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
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