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The Cowboys are a bad football team that needed every bit of fortune they could muster to beat a WORSE team. Dallas is who Jason said they are. MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show. And the reason it’s all Jason’s fault Arch Manning is no longer the favorite to win the Heisman Trophy!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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we got John Paul Morosi coming up in twenty minutes.
We'll throw my natural strategy at him at the end
of the game, you know, as we we we celebrate
the life of Robert Redford today and we'll get to
the Dallas Cowboys coming up in a couple of minutes.

(01:16):
But I wanted to tell you this because I promised
this last hour, like you could tell last hour the
kind of nerd I am for the Natural, Okay, and
how much and how many times I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Little Jason Smith stayed home a lot of Friday nights
when Grandpa didn't get him the you know callbacks from
his friends.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
But we mentioned the book, right, We mentioned the book
The Natural, and spoiler alert, the book ends dark. It
ends incredibly dark, right. It ends with with Roy Hobbs
taking the money to throw the game, then deciding at
the end he doesn't want to do it, and he
gets out of the batter's box and he makes a
motion to the judge like I'm calling it off. I'm

(01:53):
going to try to hit. He strikes out and they
find out about the about him fixing, and the final
line in the book is that his records are being
stricken from baseball history forever. Like the book cans really
bleep and dark. Like, wow, that's a dark ending, full
on shoeless Joe Jackson. Yeah, like that's like, wow, you
took me through this whole story and now it's like wow,

(02:16):
there's no like that. I mean, that'd be greatest, no
upside at all. That's how it ends. Wow, It's like
I told you that now that that new that new
show like Blumhouse ending. Yeah, no, that new show that
Ruffalo's got now a Task is really good. I'm telling you,
but it's really bleak. It's like wow, man like every

(02:39):
character is dealing with bleak stuff. Man like, it is tough.
So that's a that's a really dark ending for The Natural.
So sophomore year of English class, we uh, we had
a Missus Lyles. I love Missus law she's a great teacher.
She gave she gave us each a choice of a
book to read to do a a paper on, and
it was and The Natural was one of them. And

(03:02):
I think she did to celebrate the movie to come
out like the year before and to read the book
The Natural. Well, I love the movie, I love sports.
I'm gonna read The Natural. So I read The Natural
and you know, I tell you how it ends. This
is the one that you went away from the biography of.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Fact.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, I went away from that. Guy. I can't just
do another by the miracle Mets of nineteen sixty nine.
I can't do another story on that. You know, Okay,
the other shoe polish on Cleon Jones' fine.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Hey, I'm a year older. My perspective has changed. So
I do my book.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I do my presentation on the net, and it's it's
a paper and I write it on the natural And
I didn't like the book, and I get the book back.
I get the paperback, and she goes, and I got
to see it. I gotta c minus and I never
see mine. I see mine as she goes, you clearly
didn't read the book, because he strikes out at the end,
and and I'm gonna I'm gonna give you. I'm there

(03:54):
is the reason why I'm telling.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
The story the way it is, tell the story the
way it is.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
So clearly didn't read the book. He strikes out at
the end, And I said to her, he's giving the pay.
And she looks at me, and she goes, this is
not the kind of work you turned in. Like she knew,
guy was a really good student. And I said, can
I talk to you after class? She goes, yes, absolutely.
Look she and so the whole class like she's mad
at me. Right now, I was one of a really
good students, right she's mad at me. And so after
class I go up to and I say, I say, uh,

(04:22):
I want to talk to you about this. She goes, Jason,
I can't. I mean, I know the big sports fan
you are. We spent the first twenty minutes of a
period in English class talking about when Pete Rose broke
the hit record, like she was that cool a teacher, like, hey,
this is pure Americana. What happened last night Pete Rose
broke the hit record? Hey girls, don't you want to
be with me now? To talk about Pete Rose getting

(04:43):
it off Eric Show? Make at me talking about it.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I went out after he got the hit and I
got a bull cut just like him.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
So she so, she she says to me, you know
that's kind of teacher she was. And I said okay,
And she said I want to tell you. I can't
believe you didn't you read them? And I said, missus Lyles,
I said, I read the book. I hated the ending,
so I didn't want to write about it, so I
wrote about it, like I wrote about the movie, and
she looks at me and I said, I no, he
strikes out at the end. He calls off the bet

(05:11):
with the judge. And it doesn't matter because he got
caught in there striking his records from the record book.
For I hated that, Missus Lyles, I said, I'm fourteen, right,
I said, I hated that. So I wrote about the
movie because I liked it better. And she sat back
and she just went huh. Right. She sits back in
a chair and goes huh. And I said, so that's

(05:33):
why she goes, h I can't give you an A,
but I'll give you a b oh. And I know,
And I said, I just lost all respect from Missus.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Stiles right there, come on, man, Okay, And honestly, I
didn't go in there.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I liked the movie better. So I wrote about the
movie instead, like I did a mix of the movie
in the book, right, And I'm like, and she was
And I think she was mad at me because she
thought I didn't read it. Now she's like, okay, you
read it.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I edit and I got the benefit because I was
a good yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
So so she gets huh I'll never because she just
sat bag up huh and sorr, I'll give you. But
I'm like, okay, because I didn't go up there to
try to get a higher grade. I felt bad that
she thought about me that I didn't read the book. Right,
that's the kind of student I wasn't school. But now
I'll tell you I read the book. I hated it
and I hated, hated and hate it and I didn't
like the ending. So I didn't want to write anyone
to read about it. So I wrote, she goes, all right, well, okay,

(06:27):
she goes your points in the you know, we started
a conversation joints the book and everything else. I don't
remember a lot of the conversation, but I'll never forget that, huh.
And like she looked at me differently at that moment,
like okay, you you're you're a little different, all right
then okay, But I said, I can't give you an A,
but i'll give you a B. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I had that happen in a specialty class where for
a section of a lit class we were doing Emily Dickinson.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
They did not like my analysis.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Of one of the poems, but they couldn't refute the
way ordered my argument. She hated me for the like
there was no moment of reconciliation. No, no, no, I
was the devil incarnate because she was a member of
the society and would go to these meetings and retreats
to talk about the life and times.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And I believe, Dick Harmon, you're gonna be in missus
Wagner's English class, now, won't you grab your stuff and
you're gonna go across the hall and you sit in
that class because I can't look at you.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Oh no, she hated me. It was fun because it
became this contentious thing. I'd raise my hand and I'm like,
I see the way I'd read. They're like, you chir tell.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Mister Harmon, do you want to sit here for the
rest semester and get a d or go to a
new class and maybe start over? I know what I would.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I wish i'd gotten to sit back. I could see
it your way. It's like, no, no.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I hated that, so I didn't want to write about
I love that.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
That's that's funny as hell. Put that in the movie.
Put that in a screenplay.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
That's good. It's like like Billy being in Moneyball when
he goes huh, like when they say, you know where
Garcia is a nor Garcia is a no huh Like
that was the kind of look hit huh okay.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
But you see it registering. It's like, Wow, there's like
a newfound respect. But she hates you at the same time.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Tell you details at the end, like I can't just
say I read it nice. No, he struck out and
he does. I get it. No, I mean I hated that.
I hated that. Why why did you tell me that story?
If it's gonna end like that? It was so sad
it was awful, Like Bernard Mallaman, Come on, I want
to see that part of them. I want to see
that movie though, that those final scenes, that's like, that's
like how they so sad red they went they went

(08:31):
to test audiences and they said, yeah, you know this
isn't playing well. How about he hits a home run
and all the lights break? Ah?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, do that instead? Yeah, and here's a popular there
you go.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, uh, exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen Dough.
We all get John Paul Morosi's thoughts on the Natural
coming up in a few minutes, but uh, There's been
a lot of attention the last twenty four hours on
the Cowboys win over the Giants. Right, and you saw
Brian Schottenheimer excited and here comes your Davian Clowney and
all of a sudden, here come the cow cherry in

(09:00):
that locker room.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
He hasn't been that happy since Jimmy Johnson and he
had trophy to pass around.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Remember back to me beat the Bills back in ninety six. Uh,
it was in the Neil O'donnald kid. We knew he's
gonna throw the interception. All Larry Brown had to do
was stand there and catch the ball. Almost dropped it,
so uh I would have cut him before he got
to the back back to the bus. But but but
he might have catching it. We won. Uh. You see
the excitement for Brian Schottenheim. Yes, first win as a
head coach. All of this. Cowboys have a great drive

(09:26):
at the end, they kick a sixty yard field goal
to send it into overtime. They win in overtime. I understand,
but let's be real, Dallas should be nowhere near celebrating
this win against the Giants, because if you're celebrating this
and think it, we're on the right track. You're just
ignoring the reality that the Cowboys are because the Giants stink. Yeah,
but to me, to be fair, they should have won

(09:48):
Opening Night. You're just ignoring. You're ignoring reality. Reality is
that the Giants are bad. Russ Wilson is cooked and
he goes for four thirty and just throws moonball after
bloe ball, and he throws a touchdown in the double
coverage at the end of the game that I mean,
come up, you should have lost just because of that.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Now, we talked about it going into the game, as
we made predictions and such that that secondary would be
a problem. The fact that you don't have a pass
rush clearly an issue. But with Bland being out and
digs on a pitch count that the moon ball would
be in effect. Didn't expect it to that level duorl
super Toe would have to get when you just watched
him throw it and throw an incomplete pass two plays

(10:27):
for I think he's gonna go deep again. No, now
it's a touchdown, right and then hey, hey, hey, he's
gonna pitch it inside with the guy in the blood.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
And then a sixty four yard field goal. Like you
needed all of this to escape the Giants who stink.
Russell Wilson is barely holding onto the job. He's he's
gonna have it for a couple of weeks now because
of that game, man through for four thirty man I
still got it. Did you see Jackson Dart creeping into
the game, Like, what the hell are we doing to
get him out? Get him out? Get him out and out?
And you had minus three yards of total offense. Get

(10:57):
hi out, Get him out, get him out? Like you
can't you can't sugarcoat this and make it say, oh hey,
we're using this as a springboard. Dallas is terrible. Okay,
they are terrible. The Giant the Giants are so bad,
and they spent most of the game beating you these
I mean, this is a game, and really you have
to find a way to hold on to that kind
of game at the end, and and and the way

(11:18):
they played that defensively, the final drive down is awful. Now.
And it's not that they got beat top to bottom
by the Cowboy, by the by the Cowboys, but just hey,
you're gonna if you're gonna win that game, it's gonna
be a game. You find a way to pull it
out at the end, and because because that's how the
Giant the only way they're gonna win this game, and
they did it. And then defensively they played they played

(11:39):
two lacks on that final drive, and it was what
what are you doing allowing the Cowboys to even get
that close? Because now sixty yard field goals happen. Kicking
has never been better in the history of the NFL
than it is right now. Just gets better and better
every single year. The top kickers are better than anybody
we saw in the nineties, the eighties, the seventies, whatever
it is. They're better than they are now. They can
get sixty yard field goals routinely, like the Giants completely

(12:00):
blew the end of that game right, absolutely bad. As
bad as the Jets losses the Bills, this was even worse.
And so for the Cowboys to see them suddenly, I'm like, yeah,
I get that you want to have some great vibes
on it, but let's be realistic. You needed all of
that to escape one of the worst teams in the
NFL in your home opener, right, the Cowboys are exactly
who I said they were the beginning of the season.

(12:22):
They're a shootout team as in don't get involved in
a shootout with the Cowboys because offensively, they have the
horses to beat you. Right, we know that, we know
they have that. Whether it's Ceedee, Lamb or Pickens. They
can throw the football. They're not gonna run it a ton,
but they can throw it dak and sling it. Don't
get in a shootout with them. Find a way to
limit that because that's who the Cowboys are and that's

(12:43):
how the Cowboys are gonna win games. And the Giants
couldn't do it. And the Cowboys did every single scrap
of good luck and energy you could possibly muster up
just to beat the Giants. So yeah, I can't get
excited about this for the Cowboys because they showed who
they are. They're a bad football team that escaped a
worse foot. That's a coup.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
What's funny is I mean, you're a CD lamb drop
from being two to zero. Now, does it always play
out the same way? No, But Russell Wilson went to
the moon ball again and you get the pick and
the opportunity to make a play. Now they are narrow
one point favorites on the road against a heretofore hapless Bears, defense.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
This is going to be how many points in this game?
I don't know, forty eight to forty seven under is
fifty That could be in the first half, fifty first half.
So anybody like we talked about, We talked about the
Bears a lot yesterday and you can go find that
wherever you download your podcasts. And as I said, there's
opportunities on the slate where Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson and

(13:46):
the offense has an opportunity to click here being one
of them. A home game against.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
A Dallas team to where defensively they've got issues. Secondary
is not getting any better. Bears have their issues in
the secondary, so the moon ball coming off of the
arm of Dak Prescott are certainly there. They've got a
nice run game right now. Javonte Williams back to back
weeks has looked pretty solid. But for the Bears, still
trying to find some semblance of a run game with

(14:12):
DeAndre Swift and company. All of a sudden, you're at
two to one, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Telling you, man, watch but this game, look, I get it,
But that's kind of who the Cowboys are like worst
football teams. Yes, I can say things are bad in
Chicago right now, man, the schedule maker is is a
Cowboys friend right now. But you just can't ignore the
fact that, Okay, it's not like you needed this and
you beat and you beat the Eagles, right, it's not
like you had this and you beat the Ravens or

(14:39):
the Bills like you needed everything you needed to beat
the But but again, go back to the opener though, at.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Home to where to where you could have darn Carter
doesn't spit at Dak Prescott, and Dak doesn't spit at
him to spur that on.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Maybe the game isn't even that close. So I'm taking
the best defensive town, top five defensive tackle.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
A Well, hey, but you had the opportunity once once
he was dumb enough to spin on Tag Prescott, he
opened the door for you to go and steal a game,
and yeah, left it on the turf. But because you're
best receiver, gacked away for three deep ball.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
But he still dropped those passes.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
But what I mean, though, right, is that so you
had your chance and then you take advantage of a
game against the Giants like he can only beat who's
on the schedule and they're still one of thirty two?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Are they better? Or worse than the Jets. Let's talk
exit out about a Fresco exit Swallen Dome. Jason Smith
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Again
the Cowboys are a bad team that needed every bit
of fortune to beat a worse football team Fantasy Gold.
Though maybe luckily for them, they get another worse football

(15:47):
team this week. Lay the parcelon. Has the al MVP
race changed? Who's the team to beat in the National League?
What about the Natural and g At the end of
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as we celebrate the life of Robert Redford today, passed

(17:06):
away at the age of eighty nine. The Natural is
the movie that everybody is gravitating towards on social media,
which is awesome because look, my favorite sports movie of
all time because I know it's the one I keep
going back to. Whenever it's on, I stop and watch it.
But we started the show talking about the incorrect baseball strategy.
At the end of The Natural, nobody better to throw

(17:28):
this boy, and I'm sure he will agree with me.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, throw this by as if you were getting that
third strike on the outside corner instead of trying to
path it inside.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Again. Not my first rodeo with us down the hotline.
Long time MLB insider, MLB Network, Fox Sports radio. It
is the Pope, John Palmerosi, John Paul, Happy Tuesday, man,
how you doing?

Speaker 4 (17:50):
I am doing outstanding, my friends. The Mets one tonight
an easy win for your team. So I knew watching
that first inning unfold. I'm going to speak to a
very happy, relieve, and newly confident Jason Smith here this evening.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, like, I don't even care who wins now between
the Giants and the Diamond bases are basically time doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Somebody's gonna win.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
So okay, I'll let the stress go for me the
rest of the night.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Tonight, John Paul, Well, here we go, and I think
that there was plenty of conversation about what was going
on with the pitching for the Mets. Tonight. They get
four innings out of homes, the Manaya comes in, Juan
Soto continues to build, by the way, one of the
great debut seasons with a team with a new team

(18:39):
that any free agent player has ever had. That was
not as you may recall the prevailing thought process on
Juan Soto's season when it was in the early days there.
I recall seeing him in Boston in May when there
was all this pressure. But he has exhausted all that dialogue,
and now the Mets they're really a little easier right

(19:01):
now about exactly what their playoff chances are.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
All right now, we'll get to the rest of baseball
in the second. But I want to throw this by
you because we talked about this a lot obviously, you know,
honoring the life memory of Robert Redform the natural, which
I'm sure you have seen approximately one hundred and fifty
times like I have. So I want to throw this
by you here because you know, this is something that
I really feel like. Okay, a big error at the
end of the playing game. Right, So the Knights are

(19:29):
down to bottom of the ninth inning with runners on
first and third, two outs. Young Berry wild goes two
and zero on Roy Hobbes, and then the manager, Sibby Sisty,
former mlber, comes and takes young Berry out of the game,
brings in John Rhodes, best fastball in Major League Baseball,
not even a season under his belt. Aren't you walking
Roy Hobbs in that situation? First of all, you're probably

(19:51):
walking him because you don't want him to beat you.
With two on and two out, You're absolutely walking him.
If a reliever is coming in inheriting a two and
ohero count. You're not trying, and it comes from behind.
In the sack bat, you're saying, Okay, go down to
first base. I'll figure it out with a cleanup batter.
That a character that we don't even know, he's not
even been the movie yet. Like, I think that was
like a strategy that could have been done a little
bit differently correct.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I think that there was a different way to pitch him.
And as we know, one of the tenants that has
always existed in professional baseball is that if a veteran
left handed slugger has bloody spots on his jersey, you

(20:33):
gotta build the inside basketball. You gotta throw the inside bastball.
And that's basically what the logic was. The catcher's like,
oh my gosh, well Roy, what's going on? I guess
I gotta thrown the inside basketball? And it's we believed
that forever and he and it was interesting because he
goes with he puts the two fingers down first and

(20:53):
then goes one, indicating that there was probably a system
of multiple signs going on, and he thought beat him
inside with a fastball. Clearly he did not, I believe
by the way that and since you are a greater
historian in this movie than I am, but I believe
that that scene was filmed at the War Memorial Stadium

(21:16):
in Buffalo, New York. Am I am I correct about that,
the old War Memorial Stadium, which I've heard was just
a cavernous old triple A ballpark. Of course, they now
play closer to downtown at salein Field, which once was
called Dunn Tire Park, which of course was home to
the Blue Jays for a while. Down of Blue Jays

(21:38):
have their residence at the top spot of the Al East.
But yes, love Buffalo, great baseball town, great hockey town,
and for that movie was the home of the New
York Nights. And certainly condolences to the family of Robert Redford.
What a legend. I would also say all the President's

(21:59):
men also epic that as a journalist, the clip has
been making the rounds of when he's on the phone
working the Watergate story as the Allen Eagleton News is
going over the ticker and the wire in the background,
just cinematically, dramatically, absolute masterpiece. Robert Redford, we have lost

(22:23):
a legend.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
To my friends, I figured you were gonna give us
a couple of lines out of indecent proposal. Instead, instead
you went journalistic integrity.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I should probably stay with what I know, which would
be sports and journalism. When we venture outside into indies
and proposal, I'm not so sure that i'd be that
I would be in my same.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Comfort zone all right now about some Marvel cinematic universe. No,
like the superheroes we've been watching on the diamond. Another
guy that probably shouldn't see another pitch to hit is
cal Raley. How do you best encapsulate what he's done
and continues to do here with record setting moments each
and every night.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
The best season all around that any one catcher has
ever had. You could easily argue that I realized that
Joe Mauer won three batting titles and Yogi Berra won
all the World Series rings. And obviously we don't know
if cal Rolly seems gonna win the World Series or not.

(23:21):
But in the modern game, the demands on the catcher
being what they are, the Delboro hole runs in these
hit the fact that he's got to keep two different
swings in line all the time, and he's catching so frequently.
I just I think that he has had one of

(23:41):
the great seasons that we've ever witnessed. And I'm not
convinced that he's going to win the MVP yet. I
think there's still a pretty compelling argument for Aaron Judge too.
And by the way, this is one of those years
when there's no wrong answer. I just think that what
Raley has done is so unique historically. It's just it's
really hard, really hard to catch that many games and

(24:06):
to still be that productive all season long. And where
guys people were saying in July, Oh, cal Raley, he's
gonna taper off his numbers. No way, He's going to
still be a productive hitter in the second half. He is.
And not only is that the case, he's pulling even
passing people like Mickey Mannlin, Ken Griffey Junior. I mean,

(24:28):
it's his next level stuff. So cal Raley, the Mariners
now won ten games in a row, and his MVP chances,
I would say, my friends are as strong now as
they have ever been.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Is it this simple? John Paul? And we break it down,
and is it this simple? If the Mariners win the West,
cal Rawley wins the MVP. If he doesn't, it's Aaron Judges.
Is it really could be that simple.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
It could be. I think that it's let's put it
this way, if I back up a little bit, should
not be that simple, because let's say on the last day,
if the center fielder drops a routine fly ball that
with two outs the ninth inning and the Mariners lose
the division. It wasn't like. It wasn't like cal Rally's

(25:15):
season becomes any less impressive because of something that had
nothing to do with him. So I'm always a little
bit wary of that. But I'll say this, this team
has not won the American League West title in twenty
four years. They've had a surge in September to give
themselves a chance, and if they win it, it's going

(25:37):
to be because of him. I don't know, guys, it's
historically great what he's done as a catcher. This is
an MVP year. I'm not convinced he's gonna win it,
but it's an MVP year. What Aaron Judge is doing
is also an MVP year. The piece that Rally, though,

(25:57):
just to me, elevates them a bit, is it's the
difficulty that we have in quantifying the value of a
catcher and how many plays, the impacts he impacts every
single pitch during the course of a major league game.
He impacts when this team is on defense, and now

(26:18):
he's hitting into the mid fifties and home runs. Guys,
as a you're talking about value of a player to
his team, I just don't know that there's a more
vital player anywhere in Major League Baseball to his team
than cal Rawley is the Mariners. And that's not a
Christmas of anybody else. I just think that the delta

(26:39):
between between Raleigh and the second most important Mariner is
greater than judge to take your pick of a Yankee,
whether it's Stanton right now, others with the Phillies, Shoreber
to Harper. Let's say, Dodgers show a to Freddie. I
just think the gap has been bigger for for cal

(27:01):
rally to the number two player on that team then
probably anyone else that's been a serious MVP candidate in
recent years.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Fun with numbers, current implied odds have Raleigh had a
five percent chance.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Meanwhile, in the National League we got a no hitter.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Uh I have no hit innings from Shotani Is he too?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Nine point eight percent chance of him beating Schwarber right now,
odds those.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Chances are they're going up. I would say the chances
are a little less than ninety nine percent. The Dodgers
would allow him to try to finish nine innings tonight.
I'm not I'm not banking on that.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, he's he's already gone.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
There you go, So so there you go. That was
I was following the boxer before we came on the air.
That was what I was witnessing. So he's not going
to get the complete game. But everything that that Otani
has done has has told the Dodgers that he'll be
ready to start whatever game they need and that he
really should not have significant limits in terms of his

(28:13):
pitch count in October. He should be able, in my opinion,
at least get to the ninety pitch range, and if
for being fair, the Dodgers rarely let their guys go
above ninety pitches in the in the postseason anyhow, so
I think in many ways he is ideally prepared for
what's to come and shoei Otani, all the criticism that

(28:35):
he was there are just the questions, I should say,
not criticism, and just questions about if he was going
to be able to come back. Would he ever pitch again?
How can he keep all this stuff balance now that
his body is older than it was two years ago
when he was doing this for the Angels. I just
think it's one of the most impressive things I've ever
seen in sports what Shoeyotani has been able to do.

(28:56):
And he's proven to the Dodgers and higher baseball landscape
that he is still the elite pitcher that he showed
himself to be with the Los Angeles Angels.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, That is at John Morosi.
Check him out on MLB Network. John Paul is always buddy.
Appreciate it, my friend. We'll talk to you next week.
Enjoy the games.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
No good, everyboy. Today, I think my Lions Bears pick
was fairly accurate. I might have given the Bears a
little more credit than I thought they deserve. Yeah, okay,
but there you go. So I guess I am two
and zero the Lions are one and one.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah no, buts Lock, you have a better record than
the Lions.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I have a better record than the Lions. All right,
real good about it.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
So give me your pick for this weekend coming up?
After fifty two points, against the Bears. The line, the line,
the red hot Lions offense now red hot coming back.
How do you like them this week Monday Night against
the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I guess the Ravens Monday Night. My goodness, What a
great spectacle that's gonna be. I believe it will be
the Lions twenty four to twenty. It's gonna be tighter.
Notice I didn't pick twenty seven or seventeen Detroit twenty
four Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Twenty Undefeated celebrity Lions picker John Palmrosi giving you the
final score four Monday Nights, taking the under, John Paul,
Thanks so much, funny, we'll talk to you joy.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
But my understanding is that the Ravens didn't score a
ton of points last weekend, so I think it's they's
a bit of a low scoring vibe right now. So
it's gonna be twenty four to twenty Detroit.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
There we go. There we go, breaking from his normal score,
which is usually twenty seven for detect right, twenty four
for the Lions this weekend. There goes John Paul, fifty two.
As you're over under from that one, fireworks for us.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
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Speaker 1 (30:52):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. We got a big story out of baseball
coming up a few minutes and said, well just say that.
You know, I think the playoffs are gonna come down
to what we're going to talk about. Oh get that, playoffs?
Plat you kidding me? Playoffs? Uh, big story out of
college football today, and it's my fault, your fault, absolutely

(31:13):
on your back. We are into week three of the
college football season and all right, well, well all right,
we're as you. I decided, I don't care what their
record is.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
I watched Syracuse on Friday night and put up all
those points and damn it isn't it make it fun?

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Through three weeks and Arch Manning is no longer the
favorite to win the highs Ball Yeah, because of his struggle.
John Matteer and Carson Beck are now the two favorites.
Oklahoma's quarterback, Miami's quarterback. ESPN BET showing that at Bet,
mgm UH and also a couple other different outlets. These

(31:58):
are the two guys that are the new favorites. Right, Matier,
it's funny we're talking about Mai and Odds, but funny
and Beck who we've said, look, he's the difference in Miami. Right,
as good as cam Ward is, he's exactly what Miami needs.
Three weeks and arch Manning, who has struggled, is now
no longer the favorite, and now we wonder how good

(32:20):
the guy is. Well, he's like fifteenth on the board.
I'm looking at it. This is my fault because the
night before the regular season began, the night before we
had Texas Ohio State, I said, you know what happens
if arch Manning sucks? What happens if he's not good?
Like this is a huge that's a huge blow for

(32:40):
college football. We've put everything into he's the star that
we're gonna follow all season long. Now, college football has
been very fortunate that not only are the good team
still really good, but the heritage teams who were kind
of unsure of they're all still really good. Right, Miami
is still really good, Florida State is back, usc is undefeated.
So hey, we had a great season going. But man,

(33:03):
it's a huge blow when you have Arch Manning. He
was the guy, he was the only guy we talked about.
I said, hey, what happens if he sucks? Arch Manning's
not been good man. It's my fault. Yes, if I
don't say that the night before the season, when all
he's got is how great is he? Number one overall pick?
Because he's staying, it's houlding that. Had I not said that,
Arch Manning has probably got twelve or thirteen touchdowns. They

(33:24):
beat Ohio State fifty two to fourteen. Thereon, all of
a sudden things are wonderful. It's my fault because I said,
what if he sucks?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, you really got into his head. I mean he
must have heard it and started walking along the beach
like he was in the line Richie Hello video contemplating
the meaning of life and all of that. Mateir Beck,
Dante Moore after a big game, Jeremiah Smith, nuss Meyer,
who I mean, he's really got to be motivated to

(33:52):
make Brian Kelly happy. After that reporter exchange this week,
go on, Marcel Reed Gunner stuck in and she just
keep going. I've got like another nine guys before I
get to Arch who is now after being the top guy,
he is now thirty three to one.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
He had a worse game against UTEP than he had
against the miserable. Yeah, and this is not like, well,
they got out to a twenty eight nothing lead, they
didn't throw the football.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
They beat UTIP by seventeen. Right, he threw for one
hundred and fourteen. Spruggles struggled terribly. The accuracy's off, clearly.
H it's between the years at this point. Uh, and
we go back to the offseason, right, and until we
actually see a guy on a field. As much as
you want to crown him because of the surname, it's
not Peyton or Eli's kid. I love Kupper. I think

(34:41):
he's funny as hell. He was a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It's my fault. I could, I could. I can never
go to Austin. I can never go there. South By
Southwest can't go there. I can't. I can't do it.
I want to go to south By Southwest though. How
they not invite to speak at this point, not after
this what if ar You're the guy that said, what
if arch Manning sucks? Go at them? It'll be like
that episode of The Simpsons. Where is he there? He
is seat seven? A Oh boy, where have I heard that?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah? Yeah, but in this sports media world. I mean
that should be elevating us to godlike throne status in Austin,
Man with people with their pitchforks and flames. I remember
ruined the college football season by saying, what if, ah.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
You just opened it up? I mean Notre Dame's no
good either, So there exit about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon coming up next that huge story.
Oh by the way, we'll tell you exactly what the
MLB Playoffs is going to break down to next Fox
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