September 26, 2025 • 42 mins
Kyler Murray is like a ball-dominant point guard who doesn't execute the offense well enough for the responsibility he continues to get. Less Murray (running the football, quicker passing plays) at this point is the solution. There's enough evidence in Year 7 to support that. Rob Pelinka weighs-in on LeBron James and his future with the Lakers!
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
So a tale of two quarterbacks and Thursday night football, right,
let we you know, first of all, we'll get to
the coming up in a few minutes. We'll talk about
the incredible Cardinals special teams gaff that caught only the Cardinals.
The Cardinals lose a game on a botch kickoff in
the fight. Usually that's like how the Jets lose. But
the Jets and Cardinals very similar, very very similar. Oh yeah,
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but they run in parallel. Let's talk Kyler Murray first
before we get to Sam Darnold the first half, because
I think it's time for the Cardinals and for the
NFL to understand just who Kyler Murray is. Okay, uh,
the first half of the game, I don't know what
what kind of play calls we're out there for Arizona.
Kyler Murray was bad. Marvin Harrison was disinterested. Struggling, you
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could tell. Jay Glazer talked about struggling mentally. Didn't you
stop running on the first pass that got picked off?
Didn't catch the second one that got picked off in
the first half. Look, Murray wasn't good, Marvin Harrison wasn't good.
I don't know the play calling that was going on
with the Cardinals because Trey Benson is running the football
pretty well and you call like eleven pass plays in
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a row.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, it came after a big running play right to
where it's like, all right, finally maybe you can pull
the strings with a little play action, and it's like, no, no, no,
let's go back to the passing game exclusively.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Overall for this game, Kyler Murray twenty seven out of
forty one, two hundred yards, two touchdowns, two picks, got
sacked six times. Okay, quarterback rating is low. They ran
the ball well, Trey Benson was able to move out
of the backfield a little bit, but they went away
from the running game. Now, let's just be honest. This
is about Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray, this is not year
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two in the NFL for and this is not year three.
This is all boy. When Kyler Murray gets the right
coaches around him, Kyler Murray is right. No, Kyler Murray's
now had the coaches he's had all kind of coaches
had all kinds of offense. He's had all kinds of
playmakers around him, and Kyler Murray has just been okay
over the course of his NFL career. Right, a couple
of years he was hurt and he had a tough
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time in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and he thought, okay,
maybe he's becoming a great quarterback. But you know, this
is his eighth year in the league now, right, and
he's still The last time he was good, you could say,
was in twenty twenty one, and it still wasn't dynamic.
Twenty four touchdowns and ten picks. You know, he threw
for thirty seven hundred yards. Right, That's okay, that's an
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average kind of year. That's like a league average ish
kind of quarterback. And that's his last good year. Since then,
he's not been good. Quarterback rating has been terrible. He's
not done. Doesn't put enough points on the board, he
doesn't he doesn't throw for enough touchdowns. He doesn't get that,
he doesn't move the ball. He's not we just be
Kyler Murray came in as a number one pick. He
was a sud at Oklahoma. We thought he was gonna
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go play baseball. Instead, he decided, I can go make
more money at football. I can go do this. We
still think of Kyler Bury's boy, you just wait, you
just wait. I've seen enough of them now, Okay, eighth
year in the league. Kyler Murray is just okay and
still for the Cardinals to build around. Try to build
around his talent. This is why they don't win enough games, right,
because you saw it tonight. Clearly they were built around
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We're gonna le Kyler Murray throw the football up and
down the field. What happened in the first half, Hey,
you were down seventeen to three at halftime, couldn't move
the football. You started to run the ball a little
bit more. In the second half. You let Kyler Murray
run the ball. Limit on design runs. Okay, take advantage
of what he does well. But Kyler Murray is I mean,
he's not great. You have to understand that this is
not this is no longer a player. We're designing the
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offense around him, and he's seventy five percent of what
we do right. That doesn't work, right, You've seen. That's
why it hasn't worked with Kyler Murray. He's about a
league average quarterback. Maybe a tiny bit better, tiny bit
at his best, which hasn't been for nearly four years.
I know he's twenty eight years old, but I think
we've seen enough to know, Hey, I get it, man,
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I get that he can win some games if you
if you build an offense where he can hurt you
rather than rely on him to make all the plays. Yeah,
I think then maybe you're in for something, right. And
you would think that, Okay, with getting all these weapons,
with Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison Junior, and you had
James Connor and Benson and now Benson, you should be
able to be better offensively, you should be able to
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put more points on the board. But you just can't.
You just can't. He's not the guy that you can
build around him and say he's our franchise. You've seen
enough of him to know that he is a guy
that maybe if you build a different way, if you're
a sledgehammer running the ball, if you try to do
something where you take a little bit there's less of
Kyler Murray, maybe your team would be better. Because again,
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I've seen enough Kyler Murray at this point to know
he's only gonna take you so far. In a game
in a season when he's on the field.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeahan historically had the injuries, so that takes you off.
Last year, I mean was a good year, right. He
finished eleventh in yards over thirty eight hundred. You have
finished tied for thirteenth twenty one touchdown passes. That's where
we're at in the National Football League. We don't have
a lot of guys running and hiding in the thirties anymore.
Say nothing of the fact that you did have how
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many touchdowns went the way of James Connor in red
zone situations a year ago, so we had that certainly
takes away from some of what you could do with
that and Trey McBride being allergic to the painted grass.
You had eight touchdowns last year for Connor on the ground.
Murray had five of his own that we started adding
about the fumbles whatever like tonight. The things that are
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concerning is that you still have whatever that miscommunication is
between the years from Rmin Harrison Junior. Certainly, but there's
a miscommunication that's happening as well. They had to play
that should have been a first down up the sideline.
He's waiting for Harrison to just get beyond the sticks
and turn he keeps on a go pattern up the
sideline and then falls harmlessly out of bounds. But another issue,
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and then the two interceptions, well those weren't on Murray.
They go in his stat line, but they're not either, right,
so like, but that's where we start getting into the
nuance of it. And it's not say he's world beating,
but when he's healthy, you have spots. Now, there were
a number of points in the game where we go
from check down to throw down to the I'm still
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running around like I'm a rookie, which we always see
that right of passage that guys do. Hey, I can
evade this oncoming rusher by doing this little spin move.
That's how he ended up with six sacks to night,
was doing that little spin move.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's like Russell Wilson. Not this year, but like with
the Broncos and the end with the Seahawks, where I
can still run back and I know I can make
this play. It's like, no, dude, you're you're killing us.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well we've seen everybody do that, right, then its right
turn throw the ball out of bounds, live to see
another down. Instead, you're playing behind the sticks and struggle
The thing that we thought, and we watched it in
parts tonight, was that the Arizona defense, with the emphasis
that they had on draft night and the new talent
that they brought in, would keep you in games to
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where you only needed a player too to get you over. Unfortunately,
the early gaffes didn't get you there. Sam Darnold was great,
we'll get to him in a minute, but you battled
back to even only to watch it go away like
the margins are waffer thin, like I guess that's the
bottom line with this. He's not running away in hiding.
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He's thirteenth, fourteenth and a lot of your metrics gonna
make some plays with his legs. We got over on
our twenty five and a half rushing yards. But when
it's all said and done, you need everything else, and
you need complilmentary football to get you over.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He's just, you know, he's you know what he's like.
He's like the He's like a ball dominant point guard
that doesn't score enough and doesn't create enough offense. But
the stats look okay enough and there are some plays
that look exciting enough because he gets down the floor.
It has a has a couple of great plays down
here hits a three. That But if to be a
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great point guard, yeah, okay, you can't just take all
the shots. You have to be able to make the
offense move. And I feel like that's kind of Kyler Murray.
He's too He's they relyn him to be too ball
dominant for the level of talent that he's at. And again,
I've seen it now over eight years, Like, Okay, it's
like waiting for Shack to make his free throws. Come on,
he's not gonna make it. He's been retired for fifteen years.
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He's not making his free throws. Man, it's not happening.
Like I've seen enoughing to know, okay, it's a little
too much. And I think if you if you are
planning out, you know, I think Gannon's got to sit
back and say, okay, can we win with Kyler Murray
being this quote ball dominant. No, we have to run
the football a little bit more. We have to find
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a way to juice some more plays. Maybe if it's
maybe it's it's making sure we get the ball out fast,
get the ball to our receivers and make them make plays. Right,
Like we watch Aaker Mayfield with the Bucks. He knows
I can't get anything downfield. I'm hitting my running back
and hit my secondary reads, and I know i'm hitting.
I'm getting him in the right spot where this is
going to be a twelve yard game. I'm not throwing
the ball twelve yards downfield. We're gonna get a twelve
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yard But.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's the thing, right, It gets back to the timing
and being on the same page. We talked a lot
about the Michael Wilson play that was obviously intended to
be a time I mean, it's you needed four yards
for a first down, but the ball came out a
hair fast. Wilson didn't get his head around until last second.
Still ends up making a great play, gets the first down.
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But it's like the margins are just so narrow in
this and they wanted to be ball dominant, right, They
wanted to run the football well. James Connor was running
through molasses for three weeks and then he got hurt.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well he was, he's thirty thirty one. But Benson clearly
is a guy that has a lot of talent. He
was looking like he was seizing the job. But get
the ball out faster, get the ball to your playmakers.
That's what I mean. Look, you threw the ball forty
one times. You ran the ball outside Ofyler Murray runs.
You ran the ball twelve times. Right. You can't win
that way, right, you can't. You can't win that way.
It's again, it's too much, Kyler Murray. It's get rid
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of the ball, get it out for Look, Jake Lazer
talked with us about this a few minutes ago and said, hey,
you see, getting the ball out faster. This is what
guys like Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, everybody else have learned
over the course of their career. Get the ball out fast.
It's a little bit better for you. It's better off overall.
Don't try to hold it, hold it, hold it forevorn,
try to make a play. And this is still what
Kyler Murray does. I hold the ball, hold it, hold
hold well, dude, you know, I'm sorry, man, But instead
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of throwing it away and it's third and eight, you
get sacked and it's and it's third and sixteen. Right,
that doesn't work. It's it's too much responsibility for him,
they get They ask him to do too much, and
you don't get the return for it. You get an Okay,
enough for turn you get a volume return because when
you handle the ball, when you do it, you're gonna
get some numbers. You're gonna But overall, his career has
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not gone the way it should have gone because again
he's he's not good enough to be as ball dominant
as as the Cardinals have wanted to make him, and
every coaching staff that's come in, Okay, Kyler's our guy.
Kyler's our guy. Kyle. At some point, yes, I would go,
hang on, Uh, don't know that Kyler's the guy. Right.
All of a sudden, Liam Cohen comes into Jacksonville. Hang
on a second. Every coach said, you know, Trevor Lawrence,
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Trever Lawrence, I want to run the football a little more.
Guess what, we can run the football really, really well,
so much so I can trade our number two running
back week two because I know we can run the
football well. And maybe Trevor Lawrence is more of a
complimentary quarterback than saying, hey, let's put it on him,
because I've seen Trevor Lawrence play for a few years.
He's not that guy. He would have showed you he
was that guy already. Kyler Murray would have showed you
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he is that guy capable of elite level play.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He just isn't.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But still he's asked to do these things and by
now you've seen enough evidence that you just can't.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The other part is that you're you're playing with fire,
and that you've got a long enough history to your point.
He's in year eight right here, he's not he's not
a kid anymore. And we've watched him come out like
his hair is on fire, and many a season where
they've added great hot starts to the campaign where he's
putting up numbers, they're winning some games, and the inevitable
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he takes a big hit and down he goes, and
now he's either missing time or now that part of
his game that makes him that much better. Going back
to the Cam Newton conversation we're having, right as soon
as the stuff that makes you superhuman i e. Your
turbo speed gets slowed down a bit, he becomes become
a jag plus. He's not quite a jag territory. He's
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still a bit plus over your average. But that margin again,
like their ability to make give up the football and
make plays and special team gaffes, is wafferthin.
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Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, we'll get to Can I ask one last question,
Tyler Murray? Did he lead the league in it passes
batted down at the line of scrimmage last year? I
don't think that's an official stat anywhere. I was trying
to find it because he at least two in the first.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Quar No, I think it. I think you find somewhere.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
We just assume that you can find that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
We'll just assume that there's got to be some sort
of pro football that, right, stadhead dot Com or something
that'll do it for It's gonna be something there.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, right, So we'll have more on that.
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doing back there. I said, ma me, look, so to
give credit here to a guy that look and I'll
be honest, I didn't think we'd have to give him
this credit. I didn't think it was going to be
a guy that was going to be able to duplicate
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the success that he had a year ago. But watching
the Seahawks win tonight over the Cardinals. First half, they
executed Sam Darnold incredibly accurate, confident with the football, put
the ball in some really tight spots, no trouble, twenty
eight seconds left to go. Yes, they get that big
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epic fail of a kickoff by the Cardinals that it
lands outside the kicking zones. They took over at their
forty yard line. But there was no panic, there was
no sailing of the ball. Sam Donald very calmly. The
relationship already with Jackson Smith and the Jigbo who didn't
even get a target in the first half, and not
to have a pretty big game overall, Like you can
see that together that he's hitting that next level of
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his development. Is one of the top five receivers in
the NFL. But the back shoulder fade, no stress. I
am stunned that Donald is this good in the Seahawks offense.
And it goes back to what we said last night
about Daniel Jones. When you are a high first round pick,
there's a reason you are a high first round pick.
The pedigree, the talent level you showed in college, there's
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a reason there for everybody taken to the top of
a draft in the first round. There is a system
for you, right, we say, you know there's a sit
no matter what you are, how you good, there is
a system for you. Now the key is finding that system.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, virtually everybody and getting enough chances and bites at
the proverbial apple.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You know, did did Josh Rosen get enough chances? I
don't think Josh Rosen got enough chance. Was there a
system for Josh Rosen? Of course there was, and then there.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Was the question of whether Josh really cared enough to
go find another situation. But that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
But there's a system for everyone. And Donald didn't find
it with the Jets, didn't find it with the Panthers,
Good didn't really get on the field at all with
the forty nine Ers. Goes to the Vikings and suddenly, hey,
this is your system. Now, a lot of the system
was I'm throwing it up deep to Justin Jefferson, But okay.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I can't fault a good strategy when I've got him
Addison and TJ. Hockinson. I'm feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Didn't think we're gonna see him suddenly just go to
Seattle and be good. But he has, and I give
him a lot of credit. I didn't think it was
gonna happen. I didn't. I didn't think Donald was gonna
be this good, this fast and fit in the way
he does with Seattle. But he is. And I'll say
when I was wrong, and he deserves a lot of credit.
And the Seahawks overall have just become a really solid team, right.
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I mean that in a very short amount of time.
The new hire, you know, Carol to McDonald and we're
gonna change quarterbacks, we're gonna change culture, We're gonna get
rid of DK Metcalf. Clearly they were okay with getting
rid of DK Metcalf. They didn't miss him as much.
They're three to one. They have proven to turn themselves
into a team not filled with a bunch of stars,
but just solid play all around, almost like when you
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see a quit essential Steelers team that's usually not filled
with a lot of a lot of big superstars, but
they have enough playmakers and they always seem to make
the right plays. Defensively, they're good enough. They're almost like
a Pittsburgh Light where defensively are they great overall, No,
but they make enough plays. Right tonight, they got it
done getting in the backfield and getting to Kyler Murray
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as often as they did right when they started getting
going on in the second half, they still got to
Kyler Murray enough offensively, they were able to move the football.
They have two pretty okay running backs when they're healthy
and on the field in Charbonay and Walker. Okay, you
have a really good wide receiver. Is Smith the JIGBA?
But first half tonight when Darnoald was nearly perfect, Smith
the jig but didn't even get a target? No target,
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Smith Jackson, your stats are for real? Uh, still able
to move the ball around, get a touchdown to Barner,
get a couple of big plays by a royo tight
end who for the last six weeks, I'm done hearing
people say this guy's taking over. He's the next great
tight end in the NFL. He's gonna be a combination
of Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates, a line it back everywhere. Yeah,
he's got to catch a passwords, but a couple of
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big passes in the first half, and Darnald's able to
do that. This has become a really solid football team,
a team that the fans are proud to say, Yeah,
this is my team because we do things the right way.
The moments don't get too big for us. We make
the plays and we have to. Yeah, we're not a big,
superstar level team. We're not a team like the the
Lions that throws out all pros at quarterback and receiver
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at running back era. But we are a really good,
solid football team and it's a fun team to watch
because they execute. And that's all they did tonight. That's
all Sam Donald has done. Really, I can't say enough
about Donald and the Seahawks. And you know I'm telling
you truth. What I'm telling you about Sam Darnald, another
ex Jet who now turns out to be good someplace else.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean you up some of the turnover issues.
They were only plus one through these four games thus far,
so still some work to be done for fumbles lost.
You had the big opportunity off that first interception that
Kyler Murray threw. Harrison stopped on the route and on
the return you had the ball jarred loose and it
went right back to Arizona. But they would have been
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operating from midfield on that possession So for Sam Darnold,
I mean, you look at what his completion percentage has
been the last couple of years. Obviously learned a lot
during that stop in San Francisco, even though he didn't
have a lot of reps, two touchdowns, one interception, appeared
in ten games. He's a guy that has obviously been
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a sponge being around these offensive minds, and he'd probably
learned something even if he didn't get a chance to
show it in Carolina. He and your buddy Baker Mayfield
both on the Master Yeah, everybody. Now they've gone on
to one hundred million dollar contracts elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
There's a system for everyone. You just have to find it.
Sometimes it's trial and was trial and era for Baker Mayfield,
trial and era for Gino Smith, trial and error for
Sam Donne. And you found it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And I gotta say the thing that I like most
about what he's done this year, he's not forcing the ball.
He had a couple of interceptions against Pittsburgh, but otherwise
playing some pretty good football. And again the completion percentage
getting up around seventy percent. Now is the fact that
it didn't fall apart after he left Minnesota. Now we
got a lot of football left to play. But you
don't have three guys that are off the top of
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your list of your fantasy would be stars. Obviously Addison
coming now back off his suspension for Minnesota this week
in the game against the aforementioned Steelers. But you've got
Smith and Jigma, and then you've got a lot of
question marks. Royo today he spread the ball around eight
different receivers over the course of the night. You got
a nice one to two combination in the backfield with
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Walker and Charmoney. But I like that for Sam Darnold,
it wasn't all all that system because even last year
he was playing behind an offensive line that was missing Darisa.
Guy's kind of a big deal. Yeah, oh yeah, right,
So so that that you take that is part of
the equation of what he was able to do. So
while he had more on the outside, still had to
compensate a little bit for what was working in front
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of him. And now he goes to Seattle and they
don't miss a beat. A coach that we had questions
on before he even took snap one of week one
last year. Uh and they went ten and seventh. And
now you bring in Sam Darnald, uh and jettison Gino, Right,
we have to keep Geno continuity because we got all
the other Geno now raking his forty ninth on run
(24:34):
for the Mariners. Geneo, Geneo gene the Geno conservation that
we have.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, uh look, look it's stunning and it sucks when
after because all I feel like all we're talking about
are former Jets, Like all these all these former jets
get done. But wouldn't you get into me that they
saw something and they were right? Yeah, no, they just
couldn't coax it. It's just it and and it really
is and it and I didn't think. Look, Sam Darnald, Okay,
the Seahawks knew, and it's a gutsy move to say.
(25:03):
Gino Smith's a pretty league average quarterback. Right, They've won
some games with him, and I was stunned that they
turned him into a serviceable number one quarterback in the NFL.
But they realized, you know what, not good.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Enough Carol's guy. So the question of you know, as
you everybody wants their own guy.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah. But at the same time, okay, we're doing we're
getting younger at the position. We saw what Sam Darnold did, Yes,
this can work for us, Like, wow, man, same money
as he got. You've seen him in four systems and
he worked in this one. So wow, okay, and this
way you go back to Minnesota and right now Minnesota
saying after watching the games, I think the Vikings aren't
(25:42):
going We sure JJ McCarthy's our guy. We sure we
did the right thing there. We sure we're kicking a
quarterback with four thousand yards and thirty five touchdown to
the curb. No teams do that ever, They never do that.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
We asked, sure we did the right thing. But we
asked that question as it was going down from the
fact that you were paying McCarthy nothing and he's coming
off a big injury. Yeah, that it was can you
pay Sam Donald enough to where he stays for one year?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right? Or you could have franchised a year for a
year and then then if you're for real, then okay,
then we have a big trade J McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Otherwise, we just had a very large insurance point. I mean, man,
because you think about that too, is that this is
a team that I mean, sit back and go. Did
we just get too much in our own heads that
we decided no, JJ McCarthy is our guy. We were
bullheaded about it because the best you're gonna hope for
McCarthy is he's Sam Donald, and so far, up until
the injury, he's not been. He had a great fourth
quarter against the Bears.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
That's it. That's all he's had. Are you sure? You're
sure a guy that you just because you drafted him,
that you think is good that I'll tell you he
was overdrafted, never asked to be the guy at Michigan.
So yeah, good luck, But you're you're really okay because
Sam Donald the last two games of the season wasn't great.
In the playoff game against the lines, Oh now we're
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moving on. Like Kevin O'Connell's a great coach, he's a
great offensive coach. But you look back at that decision
and say, hey, with a clear head, are you making
are you really making that call? You said we're just
gonna say goodbye to him. We're gonna say goodbye to
that guy and and move on and say no, because
we like this other guy so much, we haven't seen
it on the field. Already, coming off an injury that
cost me the whole season, team say it takes them
(27:17):
so long to get so lucky to find a quarterback.
Oh my goodness, we find The Jets have been looking
for a quarterback for forty bleeping years.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Man, and we can't find one. No wandering the desert. Yes,
the Vikings found and say, hey, great, yeah, see you later.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Let's go. What do you mean letting me go? Yeah,
we're letting you go. Well, we like this other guy
a little bit more. But you saw it. I just did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well good luck, good luck, like.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Come on in if you will. Week four, it's Carson Wentz,
it's Aaron Rodgers, it's Crooke Park in Dublin.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
In what world does that make sense? And what what
teams do that? Nobody? But they got so insistent on
we drafted JJ McCarthy. We love the guy. Okay, just
because you love him doesn't mean it's gonna make him good.
And so far the results have been a little underwhelming.
Where Donald now the year he gave you in Minnesota
now here he is off to another really solid start
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in Seattle, and he may never be the quarterback that
he quite was last year. We're going through the football
a ton and thirty five touchdowns. But is he somebody
that shows you, hey, I e twenty five, twenty eight touchdowns,
My interceptions are low, my yards are going to be
you know, thirty five thirty eight hundred and four thousand yards. Yeah,
that's really really good. That's really good because it's not
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quite the big, broken play offense that you have with Minnesota,
where if all else fails, I can even seventy yards
of Jefferson or Addison and things can work out for me.
That's not this offense with Seattle. It's much more of
an offense predicated on running the football and complimentary football.
But more you see Donald play and go wow. You
see the throws he makes, You see the ease at
which he's playing the sport, you see you see the
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confidence level he has. You see how he's putting the
ball in tight windows when he never did that before
in the NFL, And you really have to sit back
and go, did we really screw that up?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Man?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Do we really screw that up? That's where all the
season goes on. If JJ McCarthy is not good, that
boomerangs way back in Minnesota, boying. Yeah, you guys are
too smart for your own good. That's where it goes well.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
The other is you're watching the development of other playmakers.
We we know what js N is. Now you mentioned Arroyo.
We talked about Horton. I keep wanting to call him
Tony Horton, but it's Tory.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's Tory Horton.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, because it's Tony. Tony Horton is at ribs.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Uh No, Tony Roma is a place, whereas Tim Horton
is the Tim Horton. Yeah, Tim Hockey cards and donut
Tim Morton. There is okay in Detroit, Like you know
how when you go out now and see a Starbucks
on every corner, that's Tim Horton's in Detroit, that's Tim
Tim Horton, every every corner, and I think they can
they actually give you a gallon of coffee at Tim Morton.
(29:44):
You say I want a large, and it's like one
of those one of those full, like full leader bottles
of of of soda. Like here, it sounds like you're okay,
you'd love Tim Morton's. I figure I must go visit
Tim Hortons multiple times. By the way, the health of
a of a city and we're at in our our
times is how many donut shops are open?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
That and hairdressers.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's I'll tell you this, not that
it happens, and not that I want to get anybody
in trouble. But if you go to Tim Horton's, like
right when they're gonna close or right at midnight or something,
and you order donuts, sometimes you get an extra couple
of doughnuts.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Bonus, they might still get a Baker's doesn't because that's
the other thing that's bad right now, man, Yeah, you
got to go back to tradition that thirteenth donuts should
be in my box, damn in.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
New York, like when I when I was in New York.
Like you go to Dunkin Donuts right before they close,
you say, I'll take these three donuts and you walk
out with like twelve.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, let it hard and start having can throw them.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Away, or you could wag hey, they gave me free
donuts and come back at some port about baby. That's it,
exit out about a Fresco exit swollen Dome, the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmet. So that's
your deal. That should that should take care of all
the good talk we have to have about Sam Dartle.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Because it was painful to do it the last minutes,
but I I understand the problem is what are we
going to talk about Baker Mayfield? Is that tomorrow and
we'll get tomorrow could be Baker may We'll get to
big Uh time to find out what's trending in the
wide worldes sports, someone who's been called the Baker Mayfield
of Fox Sports Radio. I think she just cursed.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think she did too that I had to turn
her microphone. I was gonna say something.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And she started making all sorts of gestures.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I was like, Wow, did they turn your mic off
because you cursed?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
On?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I swear is it did curse? She's a red buttons.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I wanted to It's funny because I did wanted to.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I wanted to say I didn't want to curse.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I did it, but I didn't, I said, but I
wanted to say, I effing love Baker.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You know, Okay, but I did it, but I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That was so funny.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It really looked I think that looks like that, and
you pointed with both hands.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I was very excited after eating my French fried thank
you for my.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Mimicking me jaggers moves on the stage where you pointed everybody.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
I just got excited A big fan of a big
fan of Baker Mayfield, big fan of free food, talking
about getting like a free donut at the end of
the day when I'm at the mall and I want
like a warm pretzel and it's like late and I'm like,
I'm gonna go buy a pretzel. And sometimes it's happened
to me where they're like.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Do you just want the three we have?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yes, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
At nine fifty eight. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
There's a reason here, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I would take all the pretzels.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Come.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You're not gonna keep all these seven.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Walt around like you're in the Phantom Menace, Yes, and
waiting for that to come down.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You fight, Yep, yep, exact woman in the Kawhi jersey
is here again.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Just give her.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Just give her the pretzels. I feel bad for enough.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Give her all.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Can I get a little sour cream and onion?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That's what I want, all.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right, guys.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Thursday Night Football. It wasn't pretty, but the Seahawks survive.
A fifty two yard field goal from Jason Myers. Myers
gives them gives them the win against the Cardinals twenty
three to twenty was the final score. They only scored
three points in the first half. Arizona came alive in
the second. Here's Jonathan Gannon on their offense.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
We just haven't put it together like I think we're
capable of putting it together.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Those are just words. It's my job to make sure
that we put it together.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
So that's what'll be working on.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Yeah, they tied the game with twenty eight seconds left,
but it wasn't enough. Seahawks win it with that field goal.
In baseball, the Tigers they snapped their a game losing
streak with the four to two win over the Guardians.
Cleveland and Detroit are tied again at the top of
the AL Central. Cleveland owns the tiebreakers, so the Astros
are one game back technically of the final logdcard spot
after today's win against the A's. The Yankees beat the
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White Sox five three, while the Blue Jays outscored the
Red Sox six to one. New York and Toronto are
tied at the top of the AL East. The Mets
defeated the Cubs eight five, Reds took down the Pittsburgh
Pirates day two to one. Dodgers clinched the division after
shutting out the Diamondbacks eight zero.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So New York has a.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
One game lead on Cincinnati in a two game lead
on Arizona for the final wildcard spot in the National League.
And yesterday we saw Cal Rawley hit that sixtieth home run,
and then I'm sure you saw on social media apparently
the fan who caught it gave it to a boy.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, okay, So the boy.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
And his father were taken by security, and the boy
exchanged the ball for a signed bat by rally and
an invitation to watch batting practice. Mariners didn't stop there.
They found through social media the gentleman who.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Gave They were looking for the guy.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
They found him. His name is Glenn, and so to
today the Mariners hosted Glenn and his kids and they
gave him a signed bat and two baseballs in a
picture with.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
A Mariners fan.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So he got more. He got more the guy that
gave the ball to the kid than the kid who
gave the ball to Cal.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Either way, bad business man. Where's Philly? Karen got strong
arm back in the day with.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I don't know how much is a Cal Rawly sixtieth
home run ball worth? Softy would pay for that?
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Well?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, no, No, that's ten, far more than ten. Really,
you've got a lot of Seattle fans. That's it's also
a record breaker. Yeah, I'm with Harmon. It's a record
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
You're you're entering my sphere here, you might be.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I really didn't think of that.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I don't know. That's it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's that much.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That's an historic ball like that, that's not you got
a couple of balls. You got to meet him.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Wow, cool with that?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Great? But Ai AI tells me, according to the TMZ,
Yahoo and Ai about one hundred thousand dollars maybe a
little bit more. Yeah, it's actually one hundred dollars. Yeah,
so I with you there. Yeah yeah, bad call there,
bad call saying good fandom.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Maybe some good karma comes your way.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
But I mean, but the first guy who caught it,
clearly he.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Wasn't he didn't care for anything.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
He gave it to them.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
He came up big by Gett wants to meet cal
Rawley with his kids and taking pictures and again assigned
bat and two base.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Maybe he's on the lamb?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Wow, who on the lamb? You never heard that phrase? No,
I'm the lamb you ever have lamb with a nice
little mint jelly sauce, Like, wait, are you gonna do
the whole Billy Christal with a nice mdic and tomato
sandwich where the mutton slice nice and lean. The phrase
on the lamb means you're on the loose, You're you're
you're trying to be captured.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Can trying to avoid being captured? Gotcha?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Okay, Okay, thank you min coming up next, we get it. Look,
we have more NFL in the way. But you gotta
hear what was said and not said about Lebron James
and the Lakers earlier.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Today you go Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
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Speaker 1 (37:00):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith and Mike Harmon live from
the studios every night. And now, Lebron, I think that'd
be a fun thing. We do we do in time
to music. We do stories. We had a radio at
(37:21):
some point.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, no exactly, So if I would require a little
more pre written work, I mean, we like to work
extemporaneously and all.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's been a minute since we had a good Lebron
James story. But today the Lakers had their big preseason
press conference Day is Monday, where the team talked about
a couple of big things. JJ redick is contract extension
after just being there for a year, and the future.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, here two of hating me, So we get to
keep that feud up for another couple of years.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
It'll be great. And Lebron James, of course a big
topic of conversation today. And here's Rob Polinka with his
new haircut, talking about the future of Lebron James with
Los Angeles.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
Laker is going to be the first time he's in
a contract year. How does that affect your team building
process as you not only have to take into account
this year's roster, but the optionality of the team for
years to come.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I think we've talked before.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
The first thing we want to do in terms of
Lebron and his future is just give him absolute respect
to choose his story with his family. In terms of
how many years he's going to continue to play, He's
earned that right and he's the best one to talk
about that in terms of how many years you'd like
to play. But we were very intentional this summer in
(38:49):
terms of the pieces we add with Luca and Lebron
once Lebron opted in, making sure that they had the
necessary pieces around them to be on a really competitive,
strong team, and we built into that and for that.
In terms of the future, obviously again with what I
started your question with, first things. First would be for
(39:14):
him to be able to make the decisions he wants
to in terms of how long he wants to play.
We're going to continue to honor and respect that and
let him speak into that.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
What a load of crap. That's an absolute love.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
And if somebody in behind is running with a sign,
that's just beat it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
The translation to that is we wanted him to beat it,
budd he opted in. This is what you say when
you want to say glowing things, knowing full well we
don't want him anymore. Right, The Lakers would love somebody
to take that contract away, to take Lebron away so
they could build around Luka Doncic in a little bit
better way. And here's a layer. Oh no, no, no,
(39:48):
we want Lebron to have to make that decision himself
with his family. That's such a load of crap. If
they wanted Lebron to stay, they would sign the guy
to a contract. They would sign that. They would say, hey,
let's do something to keep here for the three four
more years. That's what you do to players. I don't
care how good you are. You make up this ridiculous
thing where you say, oh, hey, we want you and
your family to make that. No, if they wanted them,
(40:10):
they would assign into a deal to say you and Luca,
you're our guys. Let's go get it. They want him gone.
This is still part of the chicken that's being played
with Lebron and the Lakers. And I still can't believe
that Lebron is going to go into this season and
play for a team that clearly would like him to leave.
They'd be happier if he was someplace. Elf. I can't
believe that's gonna happen. But that's what it looks like.
(40:31):
But he's anything good about it's anything good about. Oh yeah, no,
we want him, he's great, he's no, no, no, it's
this year and it's family. What a load of crap
that was?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Well, but that's it. You got to go through the
playbook of all right, what do we sell family? Family?
Because that's been used as a positive and as a
negative for the Lakers for as long as I've been alive. Right,
it's great. It's the family business when it's going well,
and look at the close knit community of trusted advisors.
And then when it does go well, it's like, well,
it's because they're insulated. It's a close knit family of
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their trusted advisors and all these people at the table.
In this particular case, Lebron made the choice. He could
have gone if he had the guts and gone anywhere
and tried to be that guy, but he didn't want
the narrative of the ring chaser. He didn't want any
of that. And he also wanted his fifty three million
dollars for the Lakers. Where I would have loved in
(41:22):
that statement, he had to have one more sentence. We'd
love to keep him around, you know, if it works
for him and his family and if the price is right. Yeah,
because that's the unspoken part. It's like, if he wants
to stick around, but is the price right or do
you just want him gone at this point? See, I
think it's fifty to fifty on that, right. I think
if he's willing to pay for less so you can
(41:44):
go still build around that it works but if he
wants fifty million dollars, it kills it.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
He dodged all the questions we want him to decide. Yeah,
they want him gone. He wildly. This is gonna be
great for us. I can't believe it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
JJ Reddick's gonna lose his mind.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
We get back into the biggest football story that day.
Next fock
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
So a tale of two quarterbacks and Thursday night football, right,
let we you know, first of all, we'll get to
the coming up in a few minutes. We'll talk about
the incredible Cardinals special teams gaff that caught only the Cardinals.
The Cardinals lose a game on a botch kickoff in
the fight. Usually that's like how the Jets lose. But
the Jets and Cardinals very similar, very very similar. Oh yeah,
(01:43):
but they run in parallel. Let's talk Kyler Murray first
before we get to Sam Darnold the first half, because
I think it's time for the Cardinals and for the
NFL to understand just who Kyler Murray is. Okay, uh,
the first half of the game, I don't know what
what kind of play calls we're out there for Arizona.
Kyler Murray was bad. Marvin Harrison was disinterested. Struggling, you
(02:07):
could tell. Jay Glazer talked about struggling mentally. Didn't you
stop running on the first pass that got picked off?
Didn't catch the second one that got picked off in
the first half. Look, Murray wasn't good, Marvin Harrison wasn't good.
I don't know the play calling that was going on
with the Cardinals because Trey Benson is running the football
pretty well and you call like eleven pass plays in
(02:28):
a row.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, it came after a big running play right to
where it's like, all right, finally maybe you can pull
the strings with a little play action, and it's like, no, no, no,
let's go back to the passing game exclusively.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Overall for this game, Kyler Murray twenty seven out of
forty one, two hundred yards, two touchdowns, two picks, got
sacked six times. Okay, quarterback rating is low. They ran
the ball well, Trey Benson was able to move out
of the backfield a little bit, but they went away
from the running game. Now, let's just be honest. This
is about Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray, this is not year
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two in the NFL for and this is not year three.
This is all boy. When Kyler Murray gets the right
coaches around him, Kyler Murray is right. No, Kyler Murray's
now had the coaches he's had all kind of coaches
had all kinds of offense. He's had all kinds of
playmakers around him, and Kyler Murray has just been okay
over the course of his NFL career. Right, a couple
of years he was hurt and he had a tough
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time in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and he thought, okay,
maybe he's becoming a great quarterback. But you know, this
is his eighth year in the league now, right, and
he's still The last time he was good, you could say,
was in twenty twenty one, and it still wasn't dynamic.
Twenty four touchdowns and ten picks. You know, he threw
for thirty seven hundred yards. Right, That's okay, that's an
(03:43):
average kind of year. That's like a league average ish
kind of quarterback. And that's his last good year. Since then,
he's not been good. Quarterback rating has been terrible. He's
not done. Doesn't put enough points on the board, he
doesn't he doesn't throw for enough touchdowns. He doesn't get that,
he doesn't move the ball. He's not we just be
Kyler Murray came in as a number one pick. He
was a sud at Oklahoma. We thought he was gonna
(04:04):
go play baseball. Instead, he decided, I can go make
more money at football. I can go do this. We
still think of Kyler Bury's boy, you just wait, you
just wait. I've seen enough of them now, Okay, eighth
year in the league. Kyler Murray is just okay and
still for the Cardinals to build around. Try to build
around his talent. This is why they don't win enough games, right,
because you saw it tonight. Clearly they were built around
(04:26):
We're gonna le Kyler Murray throw the football up and
down the field. What happened in the first half, Hey,
you were down seventeen to three at halftime, couldn't move
the football. You started to run the ball a little
bit more. In the second half. You let Kyler Murray
run the ball. Limit on design runs. Okay, take advantage
of what he does well. But Kyler Murray is I mean,
he's not great. You have to understand that this is
not this is no longer a player. We're designing the
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offense around him, and he's seventy five percent of what
we do right. That doesn't work, right, You've seen. That's
why it hasn't worked with Kyler Murray. He's about a
league average quarterback. Maybe a tiny bit better, tiny bit
at his best, which hasn't been for nearly four years.
I know he's twenty eight years old, but I think
we've seen enough to know, Hey, I get it, man,
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I get that he can win some games if you
if you build an offense where he can hurt you
rather than rely on him to make all the plays. Yeah,
I think then maybe you're in for something, right. And
you would think that, Okay, with getting all these weapons,
with Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison Junior, and you had
James Connor and Benson and now Benson, you should be
able to be better offensively, you should be able to
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put more points on the board. But you just can't.
You just can't. He's not the guy that you can
build around him and say he's our franchise. You've seen
enough of him to know that he is a guy
that maybe if you build a different way, if you're
a sledgehammer running the ball, if you try to do
something where you take a little bit there's less of
Kyler Murray, maybe your team would be better. Because again,
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I've seen enough Kyler Murray at this point to know
he's only gonna take you so far. In a game
in a season when he's on the field.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeahan historically had the injuries, so that takes you off.
Last year, I mean was a good year, right. He
finished eleventh in yards over thirty eight hundred. You have
finished tied for thirteenth twenty one touchdown passes. That's where
we're at in the National Football League. We don't have
a lot of guys running and hiding in the thirties anymore.
Say nothing of the fact that you did have how
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many touchdowns went the way of James Connor in red
zone situations a year ago, so we had that certainly
takes away from some of what you could do with
that and Trey McBride being allergic to the painted grass.
You had eight touchdowns last year for Connor on the ground.
Murray had five of his own that we started adding
about the fumbles whatever like tonight. The things that are
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concerning is that you still have whatever that miscommunication is
between the years from Rmin Harrison Junior. Certainly, but there's
a miscommunication that's happening as well. They had to play
that should have been a first down up the sideline.
He's waiting for Harrison to just get beyond the sticks
and turn he keeps on a go pattern up the
sideline and then falls harmlessly out of bounds. But another issue,
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and then the two interceptions, well those weren't on Murray.
They go in his stat line, but they're not either, right,
so like, but that's where we start getting into the
nuance of it. And it's not say he's world beating,
but when he's healthy, you have spots. Now, there were
a number of points in the game where we go
from check down to throw down to the I'm still
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running around like I'm a rookie, which we always see
that right of passage that guys do. Hey, I can
evade this oncoming rusher by doing this little spin move.
That's how he ended up with six sacks to night,
was doing that little spin move.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's like Russell Wilson. Not this year, but like with
the Broncos and the end with the Seahawks, where I
can still run back and I know I can make
this play. It's like, no, dude, you're you're killing us.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well we've seen everybody do that, right, then its right
turn throw the ball out of bounds, live to see
another down. Instead, you're playing behind the sticks and struggle
The thing that we thought, and we watched it in
parts tonight, was that the Arizona defense, with the emphasis
that they had on draft night and the new talent
that they brought in, would keep you in games to
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where you only needed a player too to get you over. Unfortunately,
the early gaffes didn't get you there. Sam Darnold was great,
we'll get to him in a minute, but you battled
back to even only to watch it go away like
the margins are waffer thin, like I guess that's the
bottom line with this. He's not running away in hiding.
(08:34):
He's thirteenth, fourteenth and a lot of your metrics gonna
make some plays with his legs. We got over on
our twenty five and a half rushing yards. But when
it's all said and done, you need everything else, and
you need complilmentary football to get you over.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He's just, you know, he's you know what he's like.
He's like the He's like a ball dominant point guard
that doesn't score enough and doesn't create enough offense. But
the stats look okay enough and there are some plays
that look exciting enough because he gets down the floor.
It has a has a couple of great plays down
here hits a three. That But if to be a
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great point guard, yeah, okay, you can't just take all
the shots. You have to be able to make the
offense move. And I feel like that's kind of Kyler Murray.
He's too He's they relyn him to be too ball
dominant for the level of talent that he's at. And again,
I've seen it now over eight years, Like, Okay, it's
like waiting for Shack to make his free throws. Come on,
he's not gonna make it. He's been retired for fifteen years.
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He's not making his free throws. Man, it's not happening.
Like I've seen enoughing to know, okay, it's a little
too much. And I think if you if you are
planning out, you know, I think Gannon's got to sit
back and say, okay, can we win with Kyler Murray
being this quote ball dominant. No, we have to run
the football a little bit more. We have to find
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a way to juice some more plays. Maybe if it's
maybe it's it's making sure we get the ball out fast,
get the ball to our receivers and make them make plays. Right,
Like we watch Aaker Mayfield with the Bucks. He knows
I can't get anything downfield. I'm hitting my running back
and hit my secondary reads, and I know i'm hitting.
I'm getting him in the right spot where this is
going to be a twelve yard game. I'm not throwing
the ball twelve yards downfield. We're gonna get a twelve
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yard But.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's the thing, right, It gets back to the timing
and being on the same page. We talked a lot
about the Michael Wilson play that was obviously intended to
be a time I mean, it's you needed four yards
for a first down, but the ball came out a
hair fast. Wilson didn't get his head around until last second.
Still ends up making a great play, gets the first down.
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But it's like the margins are just so narrow in
this and they wanted to be ball dominant, right, They
wanted to run the football well. James Connor was running
through molasses for three weeks and then he got hurt.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well he was, he's thirty thirty one. But Benson clearly
is a guy that has a lot of talent. He
was looking like he was seizing the job. But get
the ball out faster, get the ball to your playmakers.
That's what I mean. Look, you threw the ball forty
one times. You ran the ball outside Ofyler Murray runs.
You ran the ball twelve times. Right. You can't win
that way, right, you can't. You can't win that way.
It's again, it's too much, Kyler Murray. It's get rid
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of the ball, get it out for Look, Jake Lazer
talked with us about this a few minutes ago and said, hey,
you see, getting the ball out faster. This is what
guys like Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, everybody else have learned
over the course of their career. Get the ball out fast.
It's a little bit better for you. It's better off overall.
Don't try to hold it, hold it, hold it forevorn,
try to make a play. And this is still what
Kyler Murray does. I hold the ball, hold it, hold
hold well, dude, you know, I'm sorry, man, But instead
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of throwing it away and it's third and eight, you
get sacked and it's and it's third and sixteen. Right,
that doesn't work. It's it's too much responsibility for him,
they get They ask him to do too much, and
you don't get the return for it. You get an Okay,
enough for turn you get a volume return because when
you handle the ball, when you do it, you're gonna
get some numbers. You're gonna But overall, his career has
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not gone the way it should have gone because again
he's he's not good enough to be as ball dominant
as as the Cardinals have wanted to make him, and
every coaching staff that's come in, Okay, Kyler's our guy.
Kyler's our guy. Kyle. At some point, yes, I would go,
hang on, Uh, don't know that Kyler's the guy. Right.
All of a sudden, Liam Cohen comes into Jacksonville. Hang
on a second. Every coach said, you know, Trevor Lawrence,
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Trever Lawrence, I want to run the football a little more.
Guess what, we can run the football really, really well,
so much so I can trade our number two running
back week two because I know we can run the
football well. And maybe Trevor Lawrence is more of a
complimentary quarterback than saying, hey, let's put it on him,
because I've seen Trevor Lawrence play for a few years.
He's not that guy. He would have showed you he
was that guy already. Kyler Murray would have showed you
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he is that guy capable of elite level play.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He just isn't.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But still he's asked to do these things and by
now you've seen enough evidence that you just can't.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The other part is that you're you're playing with fire,
and that you've got a long enough history to your point.
He's in year eight right here, he's not he's not
a kid anymore. And we've watched him come out like
his hair is on fire, and many a season where
they've added great hot starts to the campaign where he's
putting up numbers, they're winning some games, and the inevitable
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he takes a big hit and down he goes, and
now he's either missing time or now that part of
his game that makes him that much better. Going back
to the Cam Newton conversation we're having, right as soon
as the stuff that makes you superhuman i e. Your
turbo speed gets slowed down a bit, he becomes become
a jag plus. He's not quite a jag territory. He's
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still a bit plus over your average. But that margin again,
like their ability to make give up the football and
make plays and special team gaffes, is wafferthin.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
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Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, we'll get to Can I ask one last question,
Tyler Murray? Did he lead the league in it passes
batted down at the line of scrimmage last year? I
don't think that's an official stat anywhere. I was trying
to find it because he at least two in the first.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Quar No, I think it. I think you find somewhere.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
We just assume that you can find that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
We'll just assume that there's got to be some sort
of pro football that, right, stadhead dot Com or something
that'll do it for It's gonna be something there.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, right, So we'll have more on that.
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doing back there. I said, ma me, look, so to
give credit here to a guy that look and I'll
be honest, I didn't think we'd have to give him
this credit. I didn't think it was going to be
a guy that was going to be able to duplicate
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the success that he had a year ago. But watching
the Seahawks win tonight over the Cardinals. First half, they
executed Sam Darnold incredibly accurate, confident with the football, put
the ball in some really tight spots, no trouble, twenty
eight seconds left to go. Yes, they get that big
(17:53):
epic fail of a kickoff by the Cardinals that it
lands outside the kicking zones. They took over at their
forty yard line. But there was no panic, there was
no sailing of the ball. Sam Donald very calmly. The
relationship already with Jackson Smith and the Jigbo who didn't
even get a target in the first half, and not
to have a pretty big game overall, Like you can
see that together that he's hitting that next level of
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his development. Is one of the top five receivers in
the NFL. But the back shoulder fade, no stress. I
am stunned that Donald is this good in the Seahawks offense.
And it goes back to what we said last night
about Daniel Jones. When you are a high first round pick,
there's a reason you are a high first round pick.
The pedigree, the talent level you showed in college, there's
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a reason there for everybody taken to the top of
a draft in the first round. There is a system
for you, right, we say, you know there's a sit
no matter what you are, how you good, there is
a system for you. Now the key is finding that system.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, virtually everybody and getting enough chances and bites at
the proverbial apple.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You know, did did Josh Rosen get enough chances? I
don't think Josh Rosen got enough chance. Was there a
system for Josh Rosen? Of course there was, and then there.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Was the question of whether Josh really cared enough to
go find another situation. But that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
But there's a system for everyone. And Donald didn't find
it with the Jets, didn't find it with the Panthers,
Good didn't really get on the field at all with
the forty nine Ers. Goes to the Vikings and suddenly, hey,
this is your system. Now, a lot of the system
was I'm throwing it up deep to Justin Jefferson, But okay.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I can't fault a good strategy when I've got him
Addison and TJ. Hockinson. I'm feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Didn't think we're gonna see him suddenly just go to
Seattle and be good. But he has, and I give
him a lot of credit. I didn't think it was
gonna happen. I didn't. I didn't think Donald was gonna
be this good, this fast and fit in the way
he does with Seattle. But he is. And I'll say
when I was wrong, and he deserves a lot of credit.
And the Seahawks overall have just become a really solid team, right.
(19:53):
I mean that in a very short amount of time.
The new hire, you know, Carol to McDonald and we're
gonna change quarterbacks, we're gonna change culture, We're gonna get
rid of DK Metcalf. Clearly they were okay with getting
rid of DK Metcalf. They didn't miss him as much.
They're three to one. They have proven to turn themselves
into a team not filled with a bunch of stars,
but just solid play all around, almost like when you
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see a quit essential Steelers team that's usually not filled
with a lot of a lot of big superstars, but
they have enough playmakers and they always seem to make
the right plays. Defensively, they're good enough. They're almost like
a Pittsburgh Light where defensively are they great overall, No,
but they make enough plays. Right tonight, they got it
done getting in the backfield and getting to Kyler Murray
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as often as they did right when they started getting
going on in the second half, they still got to
Kyler Murray enough offensively, they were able to move the football.
They have two pretty okay running backs when they're healthy
and on the field in Charbonay and Walker. Okay, you
have a really good wide receiver. Is Smith the JIGBA?
But first half tonight when Darnoald was nearly perfect, Smith
the jig but didn't even get a target? No target,
(21:00):
Smith Jackson, your stats are for real? Uh, still able
to move the ball around, get a touchdown to Barner,
get a couple of big plays by a royo tight
end who for the last six weeks, I'm done hearing
people say this guy's taking over. He's the next great
tight end in the NFL. He's gonna be a combination
of Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates, a line it back everywhere. Yeah,
he's got to catch a passwords, but a couple of
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big passes in the first half, and Darnald's able to
do that. This has become a really solid football team,
a team that the fans are proud to say, Yeah,
this is my team because we do things the right way.
The moments don't get too big for us. We make
the plays and we have to. Yeah, we're not a big,
superstar level team. We're not a team like the the
Lions that throws out all pros at quarterback and receiver
(21:41):
at running back era. But we are a really good,
solid football team and it's a fun team to watch
because they execute. And that's all they did tonight. That's
all Sam Donald has done. Really, I can't say enough
about Donald and the Seahawks. And you know I'm telling
you truth. What I'm telling you about Sam Darnald, another
ex Jet who now turns out to be good someplace else.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean you up some of the turnover issues.
They were only plus one through these four games thus far,
so still some work to be done for fumbles lost.
You had the big opportunity off that first interception that
Kyler Murray threw. Harrison stopped on the route and on
the return you had the ball jarred loose and it
went right back to Arizona. But they would have been
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operating from midfield on that possession So for Sam Darnold,
I mean, you look at what his completion percentage has
been the last couple of years. Obviously learned a lot
during that stop in San Francisco, even though he didn't
have a lot of reps, two touchdowns, one interception, appeared
in ten games. He's a guy that has obviously been
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a sponge being around these offensive minds, and he'd probably
learned something even if he didn't get a chance to
show it in Carolina. He and your buddy Baker Mayfield
both on the Master Yeah, everybody. Now they've gone on
to one hundred million dollar contracts elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
There's a system for everyone. You just have to find it.
Sometimes it's trial and was trial and era for Baker Mayfield,
trial and era for Gino Smith, trial and error for
Sam Donne. And you found it.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And I gotta say the thing that I like most
about what he's done this year, he's not forcing the ball.
He had a couple of interceptions against Pittsburgh, but otherwise
playing some pretty good football. And again the completion percentage
getting up around seventy percent. Now is the fact that
it didn't fall apart after he left Minnesota. Now we
got a lot of football left to play. But you
don't have three guys that are off the top of
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your list of your fantasy would be stars. Obviously Addison
coming now back off his suspension for Minnesota this week
in the game against the aforementioned Steelers. But you've got
Smith and Jigma, and then you've got a lot of
question marks. Royo today he spread the ball around eight
different receivers over the course of the night. You got
a nice one to two combination in the backfield with
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Walker and Charmoney. But I like that for Sam Darnold,
it wasn't all all that system because even last year
he was playing behind an offensive line that was missing Darisa.
Guy's kind of a big deal. Yeah, oh yeah, right,
So so that that you take that is part of
the equation of what he was able to do. So
while he had more on the outside, still had to
compensate a little bit for what was working in front
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of him. And now he goes to Seattle and they
don't miss a beat. A coach that we had questions
on before he even took snap one of week one
last year. Uh and they went ten and seventh. And
now you bring in Sam Darnald, uh and jettison Gino, Right,
we have to keep Geno continuity because we got all
the other Geno now raking his forty ninth on run
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for the Mariners. Geneo, Geneo gene the Geno conservation that
we have.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, uh look, look it's stunning and it sucks when
after because all I feel like all we're talking about
are former Jets, Like all these all these former jets
get done. But wouldn't you get into me that they
saw something and they were right? Yeah, no, they just
couldn't coax it. It's just it and and it really
is and it and I didn't think. Look, Sam Darnald, Okay,
the Seahawks knew, and it's a gutsy move to say.
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Gino Smith's a pretty league average quarterback. Right, They've won
some games with him, and I was stunned that they
turned him into a serviceable number one quarterback in the NFL.
But they realized, you know what, not good.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Enough Carol's guy. So the question of you know, as
you everybody wants their own guy.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah. But at the same time, okay, we're doing we're
getting younger at the position. We saw what Sam Darnold did, Yes,
this can work for us, Like, wow, man, same money
as he got. You've seen him in four systems and
he worked in this one. So wow, okay, and this
way you go back to Minnesota and right now Minnesota
saying after watching the games, I think the Vikings aren't
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going We sure JJ McCarthy's our guy. We sure we
did the right thing there. We sure we're kicking a
quarterback with four thousand yards and thirty five touchdown to
the curb. No teams do that ever, They never do that.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
We asked, sure we did the right thing. But we
asked that question as it was going down from the
fact that you were paying McCarthy nothing and he's coming
off a big injury. Yeah, that it was can you
pay Sam Donald enough to where he stays for one year?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right? Or you could have franchised a year for a
year and then then if you're for real, then okay,
then we have a big trade J McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Otherwise, we just had a very large insurance point. I mean, man,
because you think about that too, is that this is
a team that I mean, sit back and go. Did
we just get too much in our own heads that
we decided no, JJ McCarthy is our guy. We were
bullheaded about it because the best you're gonna hope for
McCarthy is he's Sam Donald, and so far, up until
the injury, he's not been. He had a great fourth
quarter against the Bears.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
That's it. That's all he's had. Are you sure? You're
sure a guy that you just because you drafted him,
that you think is good that I'll tell you he
was overdrafted, never asked to be the guy at Michigan.
So yeah, good luck, But you're you're really okay because
Sam Donald the last two games of the season wasn't great.
In the playoff game against the lines, Oh now we're
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moving on. Like Kevin O'Connell's a great coach, he's a
great offensive coach. But you look back at that decision
and say, hey, with a clear head, are you making
are you really making that call? You said we're just
gonna say goodbye to him. We're gonna say goodbye to
that guy and and move on and say no, because
we like this other guy so much, we haven't seen
it on the field. Already, coming off an injury that
cost me the whole season, team say it takes them
(27:17):
so long to get so lucky to find a quarterback.
Oh my goodness, we find The Jets have been looking
for a quarterback for forty bleeping years.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Man, and we can't find one. No wandering the desert. Yes,
the Vikings found and say, hey, great, yeah, see you later.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Let's go. What do you mean letting me go? Yeah,
we're letting you go. Well, we like this other guy
a little bit more. But you saw it. I just did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well good luck, good luck, like.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Come on in if you will. Week four, it's Carson Wentz,
it's Aaron Rodgers, it's Crooke Park in Dublin.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
In what world does that make sense? And what what
teams do that? Nobody? But they got so insistent on
we drafted JJ McCarthy. We love the guy. Okay, just
because you love him doesn't mean it's gonna make him good.
And so far the results have been a little underwhelming.
Where Donald now the year he gave you in Minnesota
now here he is off to another really solid start
(28:06):
in Seattle, and he may never be the quarterback that
he quite was last year. We're going through the football
a ton and thirty five touchdowns. But is he somebody
that shows you, hey, I e twenty five, twenty eight touchdowns,
My interceptions are low, my yards are going to be
you know, thirty five thirty eight hundred and four thousand yards. Yeah,
that's really really good. That's really good because it's not
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quite the big, broken play offense that you have with Minnesota,
where if all else fails, I can even seventy yards
of Jefferson or Addison and things can work out for me.
That's not this offense with Seattle. It's much more of
an offense predicated on running the football and complimentary football.
But more you see Donald play and go wow. You
see the throws he makes, You see the ease at
which he's playing the sport, you see you see the
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confidence level he has. You see how he's putting the
ball in tight windows when he never did that before
in the NFL, And you really have to sit back
and go, did we really screw that up?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Man?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Do we really screw that up? That's where all the
season goes on. If JJ McCarthy is not good, that
boomerangs way back in Minnesota, boying. Yeah, you guys are
too smart for your own good. That's where it goes well.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
The other is you're watching the development of other playmakers.
We we know what js N is. Now you mentioned Arroyo.
We talked about Horton. I keep wanting to call him
Tony Horton, but it's Tory.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's Tory Horton.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, because it's Tony. Tony Horton is at ribs.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Uh No, Tony Roma is a place, whereas Tim Horton
is the Tim Horton. Yeah, Tim Hockey cards and donut
Tim Morton. There is okay in Detroit, Like you know
how when you go out now and see a Starbucks
on every corner, that's Tim Horton's in Detroit, that's Tim
Tim Horton, every every corner, and I think they can
they actually give you a gallon of coffee at Tim Morton.
(29:44):
You say I want a large, and it's like one
of those one of those full, like full leader bottles
of of of soda. Like here, it sounds like you're okay,
you'd love Tim Morton's. I figure I must go visit
Tim Hortons multiple times. By the way, the health of
a of a city and we're at in our our
times is how many donut shops are open?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
That and hairdressers.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's I'll tell you this, not that
it happens, and not that I want to get anybody
in trouble. But if you go to Tim Horton's, like
right when they're gonna close or right at midnight or something,
and you order donuts, sometimes you get an extra couple
of doughnuts.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Bonus, they might still get a Baker's doesn't because that's
the other thing that's bad right now, man, Yeah, you
got to go back to tradition that thirteenth donuts should
be in my box, damn in.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
New York, like when I when I was in New York.
Like you go to Dunkin Donuts right before they close,
you say, I'll take these three donuts and you walk
out with like twelve.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, let it hard and start having can throw them.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Away, or you could wag hey, they gave me free
donuts and come back at some port about baby. That's it,
exit out about a Fresco exit swollen Dome, the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmet. So that's
your deal. That should that should take care of all
the good talk we have to have about Sam Dartle.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Because it was painful to do it the last minutes,
but I I understand the problem is what are we
going to talk about Baker Mayfield? Is that tomorrow and
we'll get tomorrow could be Baker may We'll get to
big Uh time to find out what's trending in the
wide worldes sports, someone who's been called the Baker Mayfield
of Fox Sports Radio. I think she just cursed.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think she did too that I had to turn
her microphone. I was gonna say something.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And she started making all sorts of gestures.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I was like, Wow, did they turn your mic off
because you cursed?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
On?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I swear is it did curse? She's a red buttons.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I wanted to It's funny because I did wanted to.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I wanted to say I didn't want to curse.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I did it, but I didn't, I said, but I
wanted to say, I effing love Baker.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You know, Okay, but I did it, but I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That was so funny.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It really looked I think that looks like that, and
you pointed with both hands.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I was very excited after eating my French fried thank
you for my.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Mimicking me jaggers moves on the stage where you pointed everybody.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
I just got excited A big fan of a big
fan of Baker Mayfield, big fan of free food, talking
about getting like a free donut at the end of
the day when I'm at the mall and I want
like a warm pretzel and it's like late and I'm like,
I'm gonna go buy a pretzel. And sometimes it's happened
to me where they're like.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Do you just want the three we have?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yes, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
At nine fifty eight. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
There's a reason here, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I would take all the pretzels.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Come.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You're not gonna keep all these seven.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Walt around like you're in the Phantom Menace, Yes, and
waiting for that to come down.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You fight, Yep, yep, exact woman in the Kawhi jersey
is here again.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Just give her.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Just give her the pretzels. I feel bad for enough.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Give her all.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Can I get a little sour cream and onion?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That's what I want, all.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right, guys.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Thursday Night Football. It wasn't pretty, but the Seahawks survive.
A fifty two yard field goal from Jason Myers. Myers
gives them gives them the win against the Cardinals twenty
three to twenty was the final score. They only scored
three points in the first half. Arizona came alive in
the second. Here's Jonathan Gannon on their offense.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
We just haven't put it together like I think we're
capable of putting it together.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Those are just words. It's my job to make sure
that we put it together.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
So that's what'll be working on.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Yeah, they tied the game with twenty eight seconds left,
but it wasn't enough. Seahawks win it with that field goal.
In baseball, the Tigers they snapped their a game losing
streak with the four to two win over the Guardians.
Cleveland and Detroit are tied again at the top of
the AL Central. Cleveland owns the tiebreakers, so the Astros
are one game back technically of the final logdcard spot
after today's win against the A's. The Yankees beat the
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White Sox five three, while the Blue Jays outscored the
Red Sox six to one. New York and Toronto are
tied at the top of the AL East. The Mets
defeated the Cubs eight five, Reds took down the Pittsburgh
Pirates day two to one. Dodgers clinched the division after
shutting out the Diamondbacks eight zero.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So New York has a.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
One game lead on Cincinnati in a two game lead
on Arizona for the final wildcard spot in the National League.
And yesterday we saw Cal Rawley hit that sixtieth home run,
and then I'm sure you saw on social media apparently
the fan who caught it gave it to a boy.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, okay, So the boy.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
And his father were taken by security, and the boy
exchanged the ball for a signed bat by rally and
an invitation to watch batting practice. Mariners didn't stop there.
They found through social media the gentleman who.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Gave They were looking for the guy.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
They found him. His name is Glenn, and so to
today the Mariners hosted Glenn and his kids and they
gave him a signed bat and two baseballs in a
picture with.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
A Mariners fan.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So he got more. He got more the guy that
gave the ball to the kid than the kid who
gave the ball to Cal.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Either way, bad business man. Where's Philly? Karen got strong
arm back in the day with.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I don't know how much is a Cal Rawly sixtieth
home run ball worth? Softy would pay for that?
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Well?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, no, No, that's ten, far more than ten. Really,
you've got a lot of Seattle fans. That's it's also
a record breaker. Yeah, I'm with Harmon. It's a record
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
You're you're entering my sphere here, you might be.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I really didn't think of that.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I don't know. That's it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's that much.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That's an historic ball like that, that's not you got
a couple of balls. You got to meet him.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Wow, cool with that?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Great? But Ai AI tells me, according to the TMZ,
Yahoo and Ai about one hundred thousand dollars maybe a
little bit more. Yeah, it's actually one hundred dollars. Yeah,
so I with you there. Yeah yeah, bad call there,
bad call saying good fandom.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Maybe some good karma comes your way.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
But I mean, but the first guy who caught it,
clearly he.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Wasn't he didn't care for anything.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
He gave it to them.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
He came up big by Gett wants to meet cal
Rawley with his kids and taking pictures and again assigned
bat and two base.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Maybe he's on the lamb?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Wow, who on the lamb? You never heard that phrase? No,
I'm the lamb you ever have lamb with a nice
little mint jelly sauce, Like, wait, are you gonna do
the whole Billy Christal with a nice mdic and tomato
sandwich where the mutton slice nice and lean. The phrase
on the lamb means you're on the loose, You're you're
you're trying to be captured.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Can trying to avoid being captured? Gotcha?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Okay, Okay, thank you min coming up next, we get it. Look,
we have more NFL in the way. But you gotta
hear what was said and not said about Lebron James
and the Lakers earlier.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Today you go Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith and Mike Harmon live from
the studios every night. And now, Lebron, I think that'd
be a fun thing. We do we do in time
to music. We do stories. We had a radio at
(37:21):
some point.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, no exactly, So if I would require a little
more pre written work, I mean, we like to work
extemporaneously and all.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's been a minute since we had a good Lebron
James story. But today the Lakers had their big preseason
press conference Day is Monday, where the team talked about
a couple of big things. JJ redick is contract extension
after just being there for a year, and the future.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, here two of hating me, So we get to
keep that feud up for another couple of years.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
It'll be great. And Lebron James, of course a big
topic of conversation today. And here's Rob Polinka with his
new haircut, talking about the future of Lebron James with
Los Angeles.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
Laker is going to be the first time he's in
a contract year. How does that affect your team building
process as you not only have to take into account
this year's roster, but the optionality of the team for
years to come.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I think we've talked before.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
The first thing we want to do in terms of
Lebron and his future is just give him absolute respect
to choose his story with his family. In terms of
how many years he's going to continue to play, He's
earned that right and he's the best one to talk
about that in terms of how many years you'd like
to play. But we were very intentional this summer in
(38:49):
terms of the pieces we add with Luca and Lebron
once Lebron opted in, making sure that they had the
necessary pieces around them to be on a really competitive,
strong team, and we built into that and for that.
In terms of the future, obviously again with what I
started your question with, first things. First would be for
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him to be able to make the decisions he wants
to in terms of how long he wants to play.
We're going to continue to honor and respect that and
let him speak into that.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
What a load of crap. That's an absolute love.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
And if somebody in behind is running with a sign,
that's just beat it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
The translation to that is we wanted him to beat it,
budd he opted in. This is what you say when
you want to say glowing things, knowing full well we
don't want him anymore. Right, The Lakers would love somebody
to take that contract away, to take Lebron away so
they could build around Luka Doncic in a little bit
better way. And here's a layer. Oh no, no, no,
(39:48):
we want Lebron to have to make that decision himself
with his family. That's such a load of crap. If
they wanted Lebron to stay, they would sign the guy
to a contract. They would sign that. They would say, hey,
let's do something to keep here for the three four
more years. That's what you do to players. I don't
care how good you are. You make up this ridiculous
thing where you say, oh, hey, we want you and
your family to make that. No, if they wanted them,
(40:10):
they would assign into a deal to say you and Luca,
you're our guys. Let's go get it. They want him gone.
This is still part of the chicken that's being played
with Lebron and the Lakers. And I still can't believe
that Lebron is going to go into this season and
play for a team that clearly would like him to leave.
They'd be happier if he was someplace. Elf. I can't
believe that's gonna happen. But that's what it looks like.
(40:31):
But he's anything good about it's anything good about. Oh yeah, no,
we want him, he's great, he's no, no, no, it's
this year and it's family. What a load of crap
that was?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Well, but that's it. You got to go through the
playbook of all right, what do we sell family? Family?
Because that's been used as a positive and as a
negative for the Lakers for as long as I've been alive. Right,
it's great. It's the family business when it's going well,
and look at the close knit community of trusted advisors.
And then when it does go well, it's like, well,
it's because they're insulated. It's a close knit family of
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their trusted advisors and all these people at the table.
In this particular case, Lebron made the choice. He could
have gone if he had the guts and gone anywhere
and tried to be that guy, but he didn't want
the narrative of the ring chaser. He didn't want any
of that. And he also wanted his fifty three million
dollars for the Lakers. Where I would have loved in
(41:22):
that statement, he had to have one more sentence. We'd
love to keep him around, you know, if it works
for him and his family and if the price is right. Yeah,
because that's the unspoken part. It's like, if he wants
to stick around, but is the price right or do
you just want him gone at this point? See, I
think it's fifty to fifty on that, right. I think
if he's willing to pay for less so you can
(41:44):
go still build around that it works but if he
wants fifty million dollars, it kills it.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
He dodged all the questions we want him to decide. Yeah,
they want him gone. He wildly. This is gonna be
great for us. I can't believe it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
JJ Reddick's gonna lose his mind.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
We get back into the biggest football story that day.
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