November 12, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith & Mike Harmon react to the latest College Football Playoff rankings. NBA Insider Marc Stein joins the party. And Jason explains how it was the fans, not the team, who fired GM Nico Harrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Come up live from
the Fox Sports and Radio studios. We had Mark Stein
come on your way in twenty minutes. NBA Insider Dallas
Mavericks Insider the latest on the biggest story of the day,
Nico Harrison being relieved of his duties as general manager
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of the Dallas Mavericks all because of the Lugadantic trade.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Now, there were some successes, there were some high points.
Do you think you got a cake?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Don't I don't know that. No, I don't think there
was a cake unless the cake said get the hell out.
I mean that it's still cake. Ah, that's true, that
is true. Wait, where's cake? If you get a cake?
When you get fired. Fire me instead of a cake,
I'll get fired if you promised me a really good cake.
What kind of cake? Fire me? Whatever you want? Red
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velvet with chocolate chips. Like like, you're getting fired, so
you should be able to call for the cake, red velvet,
chocolate chips.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But knowing but if you get that, I'll give you
my car.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But here's what they know that knowing how work cakes
work normally say hey, you know what that they really
want a chocolate cake with vanilla butter cream and red
velvet and chocolate chips inside. Yeah, I went and got
a sheet cake from Pavilions.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
All right.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
They're gonna eat it or not eat it, that's what
it is. It was cheap, so I got it. It
was out of my pocket. I was going to take
three months to get reimbursed. I offered twenty bucks. That's all.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I was not going to give you the money. That
cake was forty dollars a sheet cake from Pavila twenty.
I got the sheet cake all right, people won't eat it.
Don't worry about it. Trust me.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Somebody here has a kid. They know how to use
one of these things and make it look pretty here,
right CN hell Nico. Uh no, man, he did have
a good run.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
They did. They were the Western Conference champions. Have a
good running. He did, though, he got fired because he
made one trade that nobody could get pass because it
turned down that badly. It's not a good run, it's not.
He had a run with a five years. He had
a run with a high point and boy, a really
bad low. Twenty five. There were twenty five games over
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five hundred. Yeah that was great.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I was afterday they were Western Conference champion.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Hey, and then what happened? Well, eventually you get fired.
Okaydy gets fired? You think they die? I mean you
think people are gonna mention remember that the Western Conference
finals in the NBA? Nor are they going to remember?
Oh yeah, we had the NBA finals and then boy,
then he traded the guy that got us there.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
In my remember cud of the Nico experience. I can't
have the lows without the highs. Okay, I need balance.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
If you're at his birthday cutting up a career highlight
video for Nico Harrison, yeah that's what you're gonna put
in there, you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Know, I mean, I'll end it with a slide that says,
what are you gonna do next, It's like one other net.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's like in the NFL films videos when a team
is like three to thirteen, all the highlights are for
the one game that the team played well on and
this week thirteen game when the Jets were able to
beat the heavily favorite Dallas Cowboys, and it's just like
every play from this game. Nothing from the rest of
the season when they got boat raced, but picking first. Overall,
the Jets are looking to the future. But this one
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game in Week thirteen, when the Dallas Cowboys came to town,
the New York Jets were able to have one big
day to keep their fans happy. It sounds like yesterday's
Monday night football game where we had first half of nothing.
So most of the b roll in highlights were them
walking out onto the field. Yeah, well that was when
it was a lost of smoke and pomp and circumstance.
Look the Jets, we had. Jets big highlight the last
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few years has been Aaron Rodgers running with the flag
onto the field.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
As American moment. From right there, it's like George Bush
throwing a strike. I mean, come on, we got in
delam images.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It just fell off the cliff right there, just fell
off the cliff, But so I'm more on me. Nico
Harrison's story biggest story in the NBA today with Mark
Stein nobody better to talk about it than him, with
us coming up in a few minutes. But today was
also the latest and newest College Football Playoff poll. Not
a lot of change at the top. Indiana Stag's number
two after their escape against Penn State. Fernano Mendoza at
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times looked like a guy I want to see him
quarterback the Jets, And sometimes I'm like, yeah, I don't
know about that, so okay, but I can already tell
what the biggest issue is going to be. And it's
something we talked about a couple of times in the
past as the College Football Playoff Committee explained why certain
teams are where they are right, why Texas Tech is
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where they are, why Miami is still rated very highly.
The committee seems to love Miami.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Hey, they love their offense, and they don't like the
fact the Texas tax settles for field goals. Yeah, I mean, look, look,
I can't I can't dismiss now that's fine, Well, because
what do I always come in yelling about it? It's
set for a field goal after driving the ball ty
the hell are we doing now?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But right table got fired for it. But remember we
still have three plus weeks left to go. We have
the College Football the conference championship game, So a lot
of this stuff will get sussed out. You were talking
about a lot of teams for for for a few
spots here, but it'll get sussed out over the next
next three four weeks. Don't worry. But the biggest issue
I can tell you, and I'll use a couple of
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teams and where they where they sit right now ranked
as the as the way to describe this. The biggest
issue that the College Football Playoff Committee is going to
have to deal with is how do you differentiate between
two loss teams that don't make the conference championship game
in their conference versus a two loss team that makes
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it and loses to go to three losses? Because look
at this situation. Just we'll use a couple of teams,
seventeen and eighteen USC and Michigan okay US is a
two loss team right now in the Big Ten. They
went out right, they got games against Iowa, they have
Oregon coming up. Oregon's the number eight team. In the
College football playoff. Right again, at the end, USC wins out. Hey,
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guess what, manuel you You gotta take them, don't you, Right,
you have to take them in there? But what if
they make the Big Ten championship game and they don't win.
Now suddenly there are three loss USC team, and can
you still take them even though there's three losses? But yeah,
but they had big wins. They made it there. Michigan,
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they control their own destiny too. If they win the
next two games, which are two away games. But it's
Northwestern and it's Maryland. They should win those games. They
should win those years.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
They should win Western playing at a place of winners,
ridley Field.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They should win those games. Then they beat if they
beat Ohio State, which no matter what kind of team
Michigan's had the last few years, they have done that
all of a sudden, they got to go in, right,
they gotta go. But let's just say they make the
Big Ten championship and they lose. Well, you had a
three loss Michigan team, but they beat Ohio State, who's
number one team in the country. How do you differentiate
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between a team that is two losses has a great resume,
but doesn't make their conference championship game versus a three
loss team that their third loss is in that title
game where they're playing a great team. Right, You're not
in that conference title game playing against another you know,
slap dash team that's no good. No, you're in there
against the top five, top sixteen. You're in there against Indiana,
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or you're in there against Alabama. So yeah, how do
you do that? This is why, eventually the best way
to do this is to say, all right, if you
make the conference championship game in the top four conferences, right,
you're going to the playoff. I'm not the biggest fan
of having the Big twelve runner up get in because
the Big twelve is not what it was, but okay,
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if you're adding four spots, you're making it in. That's fine.
So you have the teams that get in the end
of the conference champion and the Big ten SEC ACC
and Big twelve okay, Greg and the one non Power
five conference South Florida gets in. All right, fine, Now
you still have the other at large teams, but you
solve a lot of issues with the Hey, a team
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that makes it but they lose big in the conference
championship game. Now suddenly a team's got to play well
in the conference title game. Hey they love you know,
Alabama escaped in that game twenty five twenty four, so
maybe we take them, or oh, you know what, Alabama
crushed them thirty eight three, so we don't need to
take them. That's really unfair. It's not fair to say,
here's a team that made it further and they get
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dinged because they lose in a conference title game to
another team. That's the biggest sticky wicket you're gonna have,
because that's gonna be something that comes up. Guess what
in all four conferences, you're gonna have that situation where
here's two loss teams who didn't make it and a
two loss team that makes it and lose as well.
You had a couple of teams two losses that didn't
make it. But how do you do that? It's really unfair.
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You almost would have to take that team that makes
the conference title game. So that's gonna be the biggest
problem that the College Football Committee has. They kind of
had it to an extent last year with Miami, but
Miami had the three losses didn't make it. This year,
it looks a little bit different. Because you have the
haves at the top, and then you have a lot
of teams that are that level below that are going
to walk into the postseason with two losses, and how
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do you differentiate that?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, it's the curiosity right as we look at the
current standings and the rankings Oklahoma and BYU out for
South Florida and Miami. We talked about the Miami caveat
and I'll get back to that in a second. After
the top eight teams, those are all year zero in
one loss squads, with the exception of BYU sitting at
eight and one, Georgia Tech at eight and one, and
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everybody else has two or three losses as you go
through the rest of your top twenty five. So still
some opportunities on the map where we're gonna get some clarity, right,
Texas as two games against top five teams that got
Georgia and A and m You're you're looking at Alabama,
UH still has this game against Oklahoma. Georgia's got Texas
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and Georgia Tech, Uh, and you'll have to navigate those.
But but I think he had unlocked a little bit
of the blueprint as we talk about what Texas Tech
and Miami are is that you've entered back into the
era that we remember growing up when we're looking at
bowl games and rankings and all of those fun things
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of style points. Right the Texas Tech things, I say, Wow,
they settle for field goals. Okay, now you've opened the door.
And that's where I think when we talk about USC
or Michigan. By the way that Michigan Northwestern game part
in Big Nude Kickoff, Yeah, they'll be in Wrigleyville and
hang it out there, so that that'll be fun. But
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it's all of that. They have the opportunity to go
win out and have their their chance to do it
on the field. But I think the way they've caveated
the the Miami and Texas Tech and they've opened the
door of like, hey, style points are gonna matter the
fact that this is a TV show. Now they're not
saying that part out loud, right, but by saying saying
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these other things, I think they're implying, you know, there's
a missing paragraph either in the middle of those two
teams or at the end to say, hey, you know what,
when it all comes down to it, here's where we are.
Because you're not saying that it's a you know, points
against points forward. It's like no, no, no, they settle
for field goals. That's a much different thing like whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Now we're getting into style and style make fight and
styles make TV shows and everything else. So I think
that's where you're gonna get your answer. So for a
USC or for Michigan with huge alumni bases, huge TV presence,
history and money, that that's gonna help solve your equation.
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I don't know how big that coefficient is in this algorithm, Jason,
but telling me it doesn't exist is a foolhardy notion.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Telling you watch out, there's your biggest problem. We've solved
it for you. But no, that's gonna be the thing.
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Mavericks fans will not have Nico Harrison to kick around anymore.
Fired their GM earlier today after a subpar start following
what they were hoping was going to be a new
start after the horrendous Luca Dantic's trade and how it
turned out. The statue for Nico Harrison at Crypto dot
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Com is now going up. I believe he's sitting for
a portrait tomorrow as they will chisel it out of
rock and put.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It up there.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Maybe make it like Atlas like. Instead of like Atlas
holding the world, it's Nico and he's holding up the Laker. Look,
we have a basketball with like the Lakers logo on it.
That's a statue for Nico.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Concept dard ed. How about a Fresco.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Joining us now on the hotline, longtime NBA inside of
front of the show. Check him out on substack on
Twitter at the steinline. It is Mark Stein. What's happening man?
Happy Tuesday, gentlemen, good evening, come in. So obviously you've
had a bit of a day with the Nico getting
let go? Was this something that was coming? Was it not?
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Was a surprise? Light light Like, take me through a
little bit about what you've learned from this?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I would say it's been building up at least
for the last several days. On Sunday, I had a
big story where I detailed that ownership was contemplating it
and basically, look, I think coming into the season, Patrick
Dumont wanted to give Nico Harrison the full season. He
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wanted to give him this season and to see if
they could get back on a course to contention, and
obviously also the Mavericks were hoping that the lottery miracle
of getting the number one overall pick with a less
than two percent shot to do so, that the excitement
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of Cooper Flag and the on court ability of Cooper
Flag would help nudge the organization in a new direction,
help people turn the page. But they started so badly.
They got crushed on opening night by thirty three points
against San Antonio. Two nights later, they lose to Washington.
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The only game Washington is one, so they're zero to two.
The Washington thing was even more damaging when you really
realistically look at it, and right away it just dragged
this team back to all of the fan discontract dismay
negativity that we saw in the spring. And the MAVs
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are starting the season with thirteen of eighteen at home,
and it got to the point where players were looking
more forward to being on the road because home games
have been such, you know, just a depressing atmosphere really
and finally, and you know, then it, you know, then
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they lose a home game last week to New Orleans
when the Pelicans, who started, you know, one of the
last winless teams in the league. The Pelicans were one
and six. They come to Dallas on the second night
of a back to back with no Zion Williamson and
they win in Dallas, and so just since then it
really started. You know, that's that's kind of when the
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rumbles started. And like I said, by Sunday, I had
a pretty extensive piece detailing that this was really wearing
on ownership and just look, making this move. It doesn't
bring Luka Doncic back, obviously, and the Mavericks still have
a long long road to get back anywhere close to
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where they were with Doncic, But emotionally, I mean this
making this move, you know, the Mavericks are hoping for
a vibe shift. Vibe shift. It's you know, an attempt
to try to win back an alienated fan base. But
it's also ownership saying we can't have the guy who
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made this trade that didn't work out, didn't come close
to working out. We can't have him being the guy
who is trying to steer us past it. And so
all of that is in play. And you know, by
last night in the building, yeah, you could feel something
was something was looming.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Now I saw the headline mark twenty four year streak
of sellouts ended last night. Is that is that true.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It was actually no, it's actually in late October. Now, look,
the sellout streak was questioned on more than one occasion
over the years. But the point is October twenty ninth,
that's another game that it is just terrible three and
eight start for the MAVs where they've worked for a
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while on course to have historically bad offense. Indiana comes
in here with as many injury problems as any team
in the league. They're missing everyone and they were a
wide open aaron Nie Smith wing three away from the
Pacers winning that game on Dallas's floor. So, I mean
it was just every home game except one win over
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Toronto has been a mess. And so that was October
twenty ninth, and the MAVs very quietly didn't announce a
sellout for the first time since December two thousand and one,
talking nearly a quarter century that they themselves didn't officially
announce the sellout. So yeah, it's just the the vitriol,
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the toxicity, the negativity. I think it just took it
all took its toll. And basically Patrick Dumont, who look
Patrick Dumont, felt the need this is I mean, really
the way he has operated since the trade was I
co signed this deal. I'm going to stand alongside Nico
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Harrison because I made this trade with him. That's essentially
the way. Essentially the way sorry excuse me there, that's
the way Dumont has operated since February. But it just
got to the point I think where he has you know,
they just he just decided that we have to try
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to move on and make the vibe in the building different.
And that's what we'll see Wednesday night when Phoenix is
in here. What how much did you know? How much
different will it be than it's been for the last
nine months? And also how long will it last? You know,
I'm sure Wednesday against the Sun, there's gonna be a
semblance of euphoria. But again, but but this roster is
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still so far away. Anthony Davis has missed the last
six games with a cap strain. Lively's been out longer
than that. Kyrie Irving we still don't know when we're
going to see him after knee surgery in late March.
It's just it's just, you know, so they made this move,
but they're in no better position to win. So how
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long is this gleeful reaction going to last.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now, Mark Luca had a great start, is having a
great start, you know, already getting MVP talk what he's
doing so far in LA. Did his hot start have
a lot to do with Eco Harrison or was this
strictly what was going on inside the walls in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think it has to be a factor because he
looks sensational. But I mean, I think I feel like
I came on your Guys show every week from February
second on and said the same thing. I mean, he's
just he's a generational superstar. You cannot trade him. And
whatever issues you want to raise about his past, fitness, conditioning,
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interaction with referees, whatever it is, like, go ahead, raise
the concerns you want to raise. But this guy is
on his worst day. He is one of the three
best players in the world. He never wakes up worse
than being Okay, let's expand it, your top three, top five,
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whatever you know, you can, You could argue, argue at
any way you want, But on my scorecard, he wakes
up as a top three player every day. And now
you're seeing a guy who, in response to the trade
and everything he did this summer and addressed the concerns
about fitness and conditioning and shows up to the Lakers
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in the best physical shape of his life and probably
the best mind frame he's been in to start a season.
And he's been absolutely fantastic. Yes, he's had to deal
with his own you know, he's been banged up a
little bit, so he's missed a few games, but you know,
and same with Austin Reeves. But Ian Reeves are clicking
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together fantastically, and without Lebron James, the Lakers are, you know,
in the upper reaches of the West. So I do
think that that is you know that that certainly it
certainly helped fuel some of the disappointment here in Dallas.
I mean just seeing but it's not a surprise to
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anyone here in Dallas. Everybody. It's you know, Lucas still
has a zillion fans here in Dallas, and they're not surprised.
They expected him to.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Be this great Jason Smith Show with Mike Harbon here
Fox Sports Radio, in the Hotline with us joining us
as he does each and every week. He's a Hall
of Famer. Mark Stein at the Steinline on Twitter. You
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go to his Twitter accounts Hee that cool Hall of
Fame card he's got there with Kobe Bryant, stay in
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La Mark. Well, let's talk about Luca and Austin Reeves,
who Jason has a really big man crush on. What
happens when Lebron James Scotty Pippen.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Now he's Scottie Pippen on this team.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Look what he's doing to me.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I think they will be dangerous. I mean, look, it's
the West is weird because it is absolutely stacked, and
everyone talks about how tough it is and how even
you see, even Utah has been a tough out here.
In the early going, Portland has raised a lot of
eyebrow with the way they play pace and speed and
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ball pressure and obviously that we knew they were going
to be good defensively. So you know, everybody in the West,
seemingly everybody in the West are close to everybody in
the West can can beat you on any given night.
So on one hand, it's just it's you know, it's
such a deeper conference in the East. But on the
other hand, the thunder are still considered the runaway favorites
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and has looked you know, they've lived up to it
here in the early season. But you know, are the
Lakers with Lebron added to the way Luca and Reeves
have started, you know, are they at the top of
the next tier or at least, you know, forcing their
way into the next tier. I mean, you can see it.
I mean, and this is you know, this is what
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Luca does. Like he he just raises the ceiling of
your team. And you know, MAVs fans were used to
that too. You know, in twenty one twenty two, Luca
took a Aim to the conference finals. You know, Jalen
Brunston was on the team too, and Jalen Brunston was
fantastic playing alongside Luca and proved, you know that he
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had a much higher ceiling than he showed to that
point when he went to Jason's knicks. But it's just that,
like this is, this is what Luca has done in
his career. He just he makes your team more dangerous
than it might look like on paper. And you know,
we'll you know, we'll see, we'll see how you know,
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does Lebron coming back mean that he can avoid a
recurrence of his injury issues for the rest of the season.
Can he play sixty games, but I mean, I think
they're going to be interesting, all right. Now.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Lastly, Mark, let let's let's go back to when the
trade was made. Right Obviously, Nico Harrison thought, we're not
going to get a Luca Don said, who was going
to be in shape that is committed. He's gonna miss games.
He's not taking care of his body. They make the
try to the Lakers, and of course it gets his attention,
and now he's got his body in shape, he's motivated.
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If they did not trade Luca, would the Mavericks have
this Luca or would they have a Luca that is
in and out of the lineup, not taking care of
his body, and and and we would have a different
situation in Dallas right now.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I want to believe that one way or another, that
you know, he would have come to the real realization
that he's got to change some things, and the Mavericks
would ultimately see this player. You know, it's a what
if I guess nobody can can never answer. But like
just again, the thought of trading him was there was
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nothing that we would ever consider. I mean, it's been
nine months and it's still I look at him sometimes
in a Lakers uniform last week I was at Lakers Spurs.
I mean, it's just like I still don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Sometimes he's on Twitter at the Steinline. That is at
the Steinline. Check him out on Substack as well. Mark
is always buddy, appreciate your time with us. We'll talk
to you next week. Enjoy the games. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
All right, there goes Mark even Hill.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I can't I still can't believe it. I know it
still looks I believe it. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Like you go to look up a gift and it's like, no,
it still looks weird. It gets photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you know. The first time that
hit me. I remember was when Jose Conseco got traded
to the Rangers, and I'm like that, just like they
better let him wear his a's uniform playing for the Rangers.
It just looks he just looks weird in the Rangers universe. Yeah,
that looks bad. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense, like
it's in congres. Yeah, like check didn't matter. You can
picture him in any of the NBA uniforms after a while. Yeah,
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still doesn't make sense that that photoshop is still working.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You know the kids wearing the Luca uniform with the Lakers.
It's Mandam weird Man time now to find out what's
trending in the wide world of sports. From Special Delivery
Steve Disager, who has more on the biggest NBA story
of the night, the Nick scoring one hundred and thirty
points of the third straight game in another big win.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Steve o still undefeated at home. I do believe Knicks
have won five in a row.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Overall.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
They're up to seven and three one thirty three to
one twenty the final over Memphis thirty two points for
Jalen Brunson. Nix is a team from three point range
twenty two for fifty five. That includes og Ananobi's one
for ten from long distance one and ten record for
the Brooklyn Nets after losing home.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
To toront a record for most reason a game, and
you focus on the guy going one for.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Ten because the gunner put him up to fifty five
as a thank you.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Of course, it couldn't beat Ky Cunningham last night that
we talked about, but that's another story. It's a one
to ten record for the Indiana as well, lost at
Utah one fifty two to one. Twenty eight. Philadelphia edge
Boston one oh two, one hundred Celtics record five and seven.
Joel and Beta the Sixers was out again tonight with
a sore knee, and Oklahoma City is eleven and one
(30:10):
after ripping Golden State one twenty six one oh two.
Shay gilgas Alexander in twenty eight minutes at twenty eight
points and eleven assists, and the late game is not
yet mid third quarter at Sacramento, Denver leading the Kings
seventy three to sixty seven. The Mavericks fire general manager
Nico Harrison. Tonight, the NBA announced a new format for
this season's All Star Game, the US against the World
(30:33):
in LA in February to college basketball wins for Gonzaga
and Illinois. Louisville beat rival Kentucky ninety six eighty eight
six stranked Michigan won in overtime in Detroit against Wake
Forest eighty five eighty four, and number ten Florida edge
Florida State seventy eight seventy six. Central Connecticut won at
Boston College tonight, sixty to fifty nine with a late layup.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yes, CCSU go get him Broadcasting school.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
By the way I saw a Sunny Delhi. I have
never heard of this school.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, Suny Deli. It's where you go to get sandwiches
when you go to when you go to school, Sunny
Deli is great.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
It's the India campus. It's a heck of a commute
from the Tri State area. The NHL scoreboard, it's pretty
much old done. The late game has Winnipeg with a
minute and a half left, leading four to two at Vancouver,
but Boston won. At seventh game in a row, Colorado
and Washington each one. Dallas got an overtime win LA
five to one winner at Montreal. In the new college
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football Playoff rankings, the top five stay the same, led
by number one Ohio State. Texas Tech is up to
number six. Texas is up to number ten. That could
be very important because number eleven Oklahoma right now would
not make the playoff. The ACC's highest ranked would. That's
number fifteen Miami right now number twenty four South Florida
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would get in as the best of the group of
five teams. College football selection Sunday is December seventh, By
the way, the first round is at campus sites, and
that's due to start with a Friday night game about
a week before Christmas, and then the other three games
in the first round will be on Saturday, December twentieth.
As of now, number nine Notre Dame would open at
number eight Oregon next month. The top four would get
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first round byes. Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter is out for
the year after knee surgery. The American League Manager of
the Year is Cleveland Stephen Vote. He won it seventeen
votes to ten over Toronto's John Schneider, and he won
this last year. The NL Manager of the Year the
guy who won it last year the Brewers Pat Murphy.
He received twenty seven of the thirty first place votes
(32:34):
his Milwaukee squad and the number one overall seed with
ninety seven wins. The Big MLB Award results continue this
week Wednesday the cy Young winners Thursday, the MVPs will
find out in the al if it's Cal Rawley or
Aaron Judge on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve el and clearly. John
Schneider not winning Manager of the Year, but continues to
fight the system like a true modern day Robin Hood DJ.
Get out DJ, Clearly John Schneider straightening the curves flatten
in the hills. Someday the Mountain might get him, but
(33:12):
he'll never become manager of the Year in the American League. DJ, Hey,
thank you, thank You'll be here all week the only
way he knows. How do you think Waylon Jennings would
have announced, like hey, about to have the manager of
the Year vote. Don't think John Schneider is going to
(33:33):
win it for the paycheck.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
He would have been the balladeer, the trumandoor for whatever
you needed him.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Exit ut out a Fresca exit swollen dome. Coming up next,
we continue on with the biggest story of the day.
And if you ever think fans don't have power us,
fans don't have power in sports. Oh no, no, because
it was fans that made a huge decision today and
got somebody fired. That's next Jason and Mike. Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (34:09):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Midnight Basketball midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, Sacramento seventy eight, seventy two to Midnight Basketball League.
All right, it's almost one am East Coast time. But
you get basketball live through the nights and then we
get a game in Madrid for the NFL on Sunday,
so we got it covered.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And we need that because you know we have Jets
Patriots on Thursday night. How Come they didn't export that,
I don't know. So thanks to Mark Stein for stopping
by NBA inside er Mavericks inside or all the latest
on Nico Harrison getting fired by the Mavericks today ostensibly
because he traded Luka Donsig to the Lakers. Now here's
the thing. The Mavericks fire Nico Harrison. They did not.
(34:57):
They did not fire Nico Harrison. That now that may
be the official wording, Hey we've decided to make a move,
and DuPont saying, hey, we're gonna go in different ways.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Pere DuPont.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Neverick to Pierre DuPont. Dumont. The Mavericks didn't fire Nico Harrison.
The fans fired Nico Harrison. You think fans don't have power,
and you hear gms and owners say, you know, he
want us a part of the fans, but they don't
run this team. We don't do it. They now, the
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fans fired Nico Harrison because the Mavericks. The one missed
The big mistake they made about this trade was they
didn't take into account just how bad a revolt the
fans were going to have when Luca got traded. Okay,
it's gonna be a shock, we're gonna move past it,
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and we're gonna wind up being better in the long run. Now,
you can agree or disagree with the strategy, but the
one thing they didn't take into account was, boy, the
fans are pay Nine months later, they're still pissed. You
can't have a fan base continually mad against the team.
You can't have that. I'm sorry, you absolutely cannot. And
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when they started out this year, Okay, we have a
clean slate and Cooper Flag is here, we're gonna be great.
But you know what, you start out three and eleven
and you play every game at home and you can't win.
You heard Mark Stein line up the losses the Wizards
and nearly to the Pacers, who were terrible. How are
you going to spend that? You can't? And so when
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you have a guy that stands for the angst and
the hatred and you see him at every game and
he's on the floor and every time you get on
social media and your GM's name is out there, it's
a negative headline and a bad optic. Yeah, you have
to let him go. The fans didn't get passed, and
I'm sure the Mavericks thought, it's gonna be a shock.
We get through this season, they'll see we're built a
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little bit differently. Wasn't the greatest relationship with Luca and
the Mavericks. We had to move on than give him
three hundred million dollars. We're building around ad. Hey, we
get Cooper flag Boy, we hit it, Lucky Man a
D and Kyrie and Cooper flag We're gonna be great. No,
they're still chanting fire Nico at every game. Every image
of this guy is a reminder of a trade that
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everybody is still mad about. You need a clean slate,
You need to be able to wipe everything away and
start over. And that's what's gonna happen, As mark Stein said,
Look Wednesday night, when they play the Suns, it's gonna
be euphoria. They I'm sure they will chant we fired Nico.
Instead of fire Nico. They'll chant we fired Nico, and
that'll be a big thing. It'll be cathartic, but you
(37:37):
have to move on. You have to start over and
wipe the sleigh clean. And that was how you did it.
Nine months later. They didn't think the fans would still
be this piss they are. You can't have fans pissed
at a franchise. It doesn't work going forward. The fans
fired Nico It.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
It always comes back to it. Winning cures all and
you're not winning. And even Cooper Flag having some big moments,
some big games, some firsts and all all of those
things that you want to celebrate, they still suck. Right
as we talk with Mark Stein, I mean that loss
to the Pelicans is about as low as you can get. Right,
it's after Zion's already off the court. They're essentially winless
(38:14):
on the year, and you have this where they roll
in on the second night of back to back, right,
they won the night before. But all of that to
say that you got short lived goodwill with the drafting
of Cooper Flag. The basketball gods smiled on you for
a moment. And he doesn't have the luxury. Remember the
Brad Pitt thing and money ball. Oh I don't watch
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the games, like no, no, no. He goes and he
courts it and even if you were to hide it
doesn't matter because he's still the symbol, the emblem of
what that team is. And you know, we talk about
the calculus of what the team might have been if
it all broke right, Well, it took a lot of things.
It was going to take a lot of things to
break right to match the highs that you had of Luca.
(38:57):
And people are invested with however, which they've spent on
the jerseys and the tickets, and and he's been the
face of your franchise, a guy that seemed to be
really well liked by the fan base, not a guy
that ever was at arm's length at any point, right,
he was their guy. Uh, And just like that, it
was torn asunders. So, yeah, Nico Harrison, if they'd won
(39:18):
games out of the jump because of all those home games,
maybe you get a little bit of love. But that
was gonna be fleeting right as soon as there was
a downturn, it was gonna come back on him. And
unfortunately you got to have a fall guy owner and
firing himself. He ain't gonna put out a statement say
well we all did this, leave Nico alone. Nope, sorry,
(39:39):
Nico alone. Halftag, leave Nico alone, like that guy crying
for Britney Spears. Leave Britney alone, Leave Nico alone. It
was a joint to sit. No, no, no, it's all him.
It was all It was all him.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I mean, look, everybody had to weigh in on it,
everybody had to sign off on it. But that's why
nine months, Okay, we got away from everything. I get it,
but this is this is our chance. As mark Stein
told us, Hey, they wanted to give Nico the whole year,
but this has just started so badly and the fans
are still so mad. They really had no choice. I
(40:14):
mean I get it, I get why why they had
to do it. And and even if, no matter what
kind of GM you think he is, if the fans
want something so badly, you kind of have to give
it to him. I always remember Steve Phillips where GM went,
former GM and the Mets.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
He had issues at you know, outside obviously at ESPN,
but I remember him coming on the show with me
once and I asked them about, you know, fan bases
and powers they have, and he said, listen, if the
team isn't winning and the fan base is revolting, and
his anti team and is pissed at the team. Then yeah,
you have to make a change. And I understood that.
(40:51):
I understood that things are so bad and when it
gets toxic, you have to make a change to just
take the temperature down and go forward. So when he
would let go a couple of times a jam, look,
I understand, I understand it works that way. That's kind
of what the Mavericks had no choice but to do.
I mean, we have to listen to the fan. We
can't let the fans go through this. We can't have
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this hanging over us anymore, this dark cloud.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
No, I mean you also saw it and start translating
to the box office. Brought it up about the ticket sales.
Now it goes back to the end of October where
they first started to see the trickle down. But as
the season goes and it goes south, guess what, any
of that walk up gate is gone. You're back to
the advertising of who's coming to town to try to
sell those extra tickets.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Hey, Lucas, go oh, no, we didn't need to sell
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Come up live from
the Fox Sports and Radio studios. We had Mark Stein
come on your way in twenty minutes. NBA Insider Dallas
Mavericks Insider the latest on the biggest story of the day,
Nico Harrison being relieved of his duties as general manager
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of the Dallas Mavericks all because of the Lugadantic trade.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Now, there were some successes, there were some high points.
Do you think you got a cake?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Don't I don't know that. No, I don't think there
was a cake unless the cake said get the hell out.
I mean that it's still cake. Ah, that's true, that
is true. Wait, where's cake? If you get a cake?
When you get fired. Fire me instead of a cake,
I'll get fired if you promised me a really good cake.
What kind of cake? Fire me? Whatever you want? Red
(01:21):
velvet with chocolate chips. Like like, you're getting fired, so
you should be able to call for the cake, red velvet,
chocolate chips.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But knowing but if you get that, I'll give you
my car.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But here's what they know that knowing how work cakes
work normally say hey, you know what that they really
want a chocolate cake with vanilla butter cream and red
velvet and chocolate chips inside. Yeah, I went and got
a sheet cake from Pavilions.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
All right.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
They're gonna eat it or not eat it, that's what
it is. It was cheap, so I got it. It
was out of my pocket. I was going to take
three months to get reimbursed. I offered twenty bucks. That's all.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I was not going to give you the money. That
cake was forty dollars a sheet cake from Pavila twenty.
I got the sheet cake all right, people won't eat it.
Don't worry about it. Trust me.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Somebody here has a kid. They know how to use
one of these things and make it look pretty here,
right CN hell Nico. Uh no, man, he did have
a good run.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
They did. They were the Western Conference champions. Have a
good running. He did, though, he got fired because he
made one trade that nobody could get pass because it
turned down that badly. It's not a good run, it's not.
He had a run with a five years. He had
a run with a high point and boy, a really
bad low. Twenty five. There were twenty five games over
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five hundred. Yeah that was great.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I was afterday they were Western Conference champion.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Hey, and then what happened? Well, eventually you get fired.
Okaydy gets fired? You think they die? I mean you
think people are gonna mention remember that the Western Conference
finals in the NBA? Nor are they going to remember?
Oh yeah, we had the NBA finals and then boy,
then he traded the guy that got us there.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
In my remember cud of the Nico experience. I can't
have the lows without the highs. Okay, I need balance.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
If you're at his birthday cutting up a career highlight
video for Nico Harrison, yeah that's what you're gonna put
in there, you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Know, I mean, I'll end it with a slide that says,
what are you gonna do next, It's like one other net.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's like in the NFL films videos when a team
is like three to thirteen, all the highlights are for
the one game that the team played well on and
this week thirteen game when the Jets were able to
beat the heavily favorite Dallas Cowboys, and it's just like
every play from this game. Nothing from the rest of
the season when they got boat raced, but picking first. Overall,
the Jets are looking to the future. But this one
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game in Week thirteen, when the Dallas Cowboys came to town,
the New York Jets were able to have one big
day to keep their fans happy. It sounds like yesterday's
Monday night football game where we had first half of nothing.
So most of the b roll in highlights were them
walking out onto the field. Yeah, well that was when
it was a lost of smoke and pomp and circumstance.
Look the Jets, we had. Jets big highlight the last
(03:55):
few years has been Aaron Rodgers running with the flag
onto the field.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
As American moment. From right there, it's like George Bush
throwing a strike. I mean, come on, we got in
delam images.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It just fell off the cliff right there, just fell
off the cliff, But so I'm more on me. Nico
Harrison's story biggest story in the NBA today with Mark
Stein nobody better to talk about it than him, with
us coming up in a few minutes. But today was
also the latest and newest College Football Playoff poll. Not
a lot of change at the top. Indiana Stag's number
two after their escape against Penn State. Fernano Mendoza at
(04:30):
times looked like a guy I want to see him
quarterback the Jets, And sometimes I'm like, yeah, I don't
know about that, so okay, but I can already tell
what the biggest issue is going to be. And it's
something we talked about a couple of times in the
past as the College Football Playoff Committee explained why certain
teams are where they are right, why Texas Tech is
(04:52):
where they are, why Miami is still rated very highly.
The committee seems to love Miami.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Hey, they love their offense, and they don't like the
fact the Texas tax settles for field goals. Yeah, I mean, look, look,
I can't I can't dismiss now that's fine, Well, because
what do I always come in yelling about it? It's
set for a field goal after driving the ball ty
the hell are we doing now?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But right table got fired for it. But remember we
still have three plus weeks left to go. We have
the College Football the conference championship game, So a lot
of this stuff will get sussed out. You were talking
about a lot of teams for for for a few
spots here, but it'll get sussed out over the next
next three four weeks. Don't worry. But the biggest issue
I can tell you, and I'll use a couple of
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teams and where they where they sit right now ranked
as the as the way to describe this. The biggest
issue that the College Football Playoff Committee is going to
have to deal with is how do you differentiate between
two loss teams that don't make the conference championship game
in their conference versus a two loss team that makes
(05:56):
it and loses to go to three losses? Because look
at this situation. Just we'll use a couple of teams,
seventeen and eighteen USC and Michigan okay US is a
two loss team right now in the Big Ten. They
went out right, they got games against Iowa, they have
Oregon coming up. Oregon's the number eight team. In the
College football playoff. Right again, at the end, USC wins out. Hey,
(06:19):
guess what, manuel you You gotta take them, don't you, Right,
you have to take them in there? But what if
they make the Big Ten championship game and they don't win.
Now suddenly there are three loss USC team, and can
you still take them even though there's three losses? But yeah,
but they had big wins. They made it there. Michigan,
(06:41):
they control their own destiny too. If they win the
next two games, which are two away games. But it's
Northwestern and it's Maryland. They should win those games. They
should win those years.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
They should win Western playing at a place of winners,
ridley Field.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They should win those games. Then they beat if they
beat Ohio State, which no matter what kind of team
Michigan's had the last few years, they have done that
all of a sudden, they got to go in, right,
they gotta go. But let's just say they make the
Big Ten championship and they lose. Well, you had a
three loss Michigan team, but they beat Ohio State, who's
number one team in the country. How do you differentiate
(07:17):
between a team that is two losses has a great resume,
but doesn't make their conference championship game versus a three
loss team that their third loss is in that title
game where they're playing a great team. Right, You're not
in that conference title game playing against another you know,
slap dash team that's no good. No, you're in there
against the top five, top sixteen. You're in there against Indiana,
(07:38):
or you're in there against Alabama. So yeah, how do
you do that? This is why, eventually the best way
to do this is to say, all right, if you
make the conference championship game in the top four conferences, right,
you're going to the playoff. I'm not the biggest fan
of having the Big twelve runner up get in because
the Big twelve is not what it was, but okay,
(08:00):
if you're adding four spots, you're making it in. That's fine.
So you have the teams that get in the end
of the conference champion and the Big ten SEC ACC
and Big twelve okay, Greg and the one non Power
five conference South Florida gets in. All right, fine, Now
you still have the other at large teams, but you
solve a lot of issues with the Hey, a team
(08:20):
that makes it but they lose big in the conference
championship game. Now suddenly a team's got to play well
in the conference title game. Hey they love you know,
Alabama escaped in that game twenty five twenty four, so
maybe we take them, or oh, you know what, Alabama
crushed them thirty eight three, so we don't need to
take them. That's really unfair. It's not fair to say,
here's a team that made it further and they get
(08:41):
dinged because they lose in a conference title game to
another team. That's the biggest sticky wicket you're gonna have,
because that's gonna be something that comes up. Guess what
in all four conferences, you're gonna have that situation where
here's two loss teams who didn't make it and a
two loss team that makes it and lose as well.
You had a couple of teams two losses that didn't
make it. But how do you do that? It's really unfair.
(09:04):
You almost would have to take that team that makes
the conference title game. So that's gonna be the biggest
problem that the College Football Committee has. They kind of
had it to an extent last year with Miami, but
Miami had the three losses didn't make it. This year,
it looks a little bit different. Because you have the
haves at the top, and then you have a lot
of teams that are that level below that are going
to walk into the postseason with two losses, and how
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do you differentiate that?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, it's the curiosity right as we look at the
current standings and the rankings Oklahoma and BYU out for
South Florida and Miami. We talked about the Miami caveat
and I'll get back to that in a second. After
the top eight teams, those are all year zero in
one loss squads, with the exception of BYU sitting at
eight and one, Georgia Tech at eight and one, and
(09:49):
everybody else has two or three losses as you go
through the rest of your top twenty five. So still
some opportunities on the map where we're gonna get some clarity, right,
Texas as two games against top five teams that got
Georgia and A and m You're you're looking at Alabama,
UH still has this game against Oklahoma. Georgia's got Texas
(10:12):
and Georgia Tech, Uh, and you'll have to navigate those.
But but I think he had unlocked a little bit
of the blueprint as we talk about what Texas Tech
and Miami are is that you've entered back into the
era that we remember growing up when we're looking at
bowl games and rankings and all of those fun things
(10:32):
of style points. Right the Texas Tech things, I say, Wow,
they settle for field goals. Okay, now you've opened the door.
And that's where I think when we talk about USC
or Michigan. By the way that Michigan Northwestern game part
in Big Nude Kickoff, Yeah, they'll be in Wrigleyville and
hang it out there, so that that'll be fun. But
(10:54):
it's all of that. They have the opportunity to go
win out and have their their chance to do it
on the field. But I think the way they've caveated
the the Miami and Texas Tech and they've opened the
door of like, hey, style points are gonna matter the
fact that this is a TV show. Now they're not
saying that part out loud, right, but by saying saying
(11:14):
these other things, I think they're implying, you know, there's
a missing paragraph either in the middle of those two
teams or at the end to say, hey, you know what,
when it all comes down to it, here's where we are.
Because you're not saying that it's a you know, points
against points forward. It's like no, no, no, they settle
for field goals. That's a much different thing like whoa, whoa, whoa.
(11:37):
Now we're getting into style and style make fight and
styles make TV shows and everything else. So I think
that's where you're gonna get your answer. So for a
USC or for Michigan with huge alumni bases, huge TV presence,
history and money, that that's gonna help solve your equation.
(11:57):
I don't know how big that coefficient is in this algorithm, Jason,
but telling me it doesn't exist is a foolhardy notion.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
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Mavericks fans will not have Nico Harrison to kick around anymore.
Fired their GM earlier today after a subpar start following
what they were hoping was going to be a new
start after the horrendous Luca Dantic's trade and how it
turned out. The statue for Nico Harrison at Crypto dot
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Com is now going up. I believe he's sitting for
a portrait tomorrow as they will chisel it out of
rock and put.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It up there.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Maybe make it like Atlas like. Instead of like Atlas
holding the world, it's Nico and he's holding up the Laker. Look,
we have a basketball with like the Lakers logo on it.
That's a statue for Nico.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Concept dard ed. How about a Fresco.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Joining us now on the hotline, longtime NBA inside of
front of the show. Check him out on substack on
Twitter at the steinline. It is Mark Stein. What's happening man?
Happy Tuesday, gentlemen, good evening, come in. So obviously you've
had a bit of a day with the Nico getting
let go? Was this something that was coming? Was it not?
(15:32):
Was a surprise? Light light Like, take me through a
little bit about what you've learned from this?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I would say it's been building up at least
for the last several days. On Sunday, I had a
big story where I detailed that ownership was contemplating it
and basically, look, I think coming into the season, Patrick
Dumont wanted to give Nico Harrison the full season. He
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wanted to give him this season and to see if
they could get back on a course to contention, and
obviously also the Mavericks were hoping that the lottery miracle
of getting the number one overall pick with a less
than two percent shot to do so, that the excitement
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of Cooper Flag and the on court ability of Cooper
Flag would help nudge the organization in a new direction,
help people turn the page. But they started so badly.
They got crushed on opening night by thirty three points
against San Antonio. Two nights later, they lose to Washington.
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The only game Washington is one, so they're zero to two.
The Washington thing was even more damaging when you really
realistically look at it, and right away it just dragged
this team back to all of the fan discontract dismay
negativity that we saw in the spring. And the MAVs
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are starting the season with thirteen of eighteen at home,
and it got to the point where players were looking
more forward to being on the road because home games
have been such, you know, just a depressing atmosphere really
and finally, and you know, then it, you know, then
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they lose a home game last week to New Orleans
when the Pelicans, who started, you know, one of the
last winless teams in the league. The Pelicans were one
and six. They come to Dallas on the second night
of a back to back with no Zion Williamson and
they win in Dallas, and so just since then it
really started. You know, that's that's kind of when the
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rumbles started. And like I said, by Sunday, I had
a pretty extensive piece detailing that this was really wearing
on ownership and just look, making this move. It doesn't
bring Luka Doncic back, obviously, and the Mavericks still have
a long long road to get back anywhere close to
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where they were with Doncic, But emotionally, I mean this
making this move, you know, the Mavericks are hoping for
a vibe shift. Vibe shift. It's you know, an attempt
to try to win back an alienated fan base. But
it's also ownership saying we can't have the guy who
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made this trade that didn't work out, didn't come close
to working out. We can't have him being the guy
who is trying to steer us past it. And so
all of that is in play. And you know, by
last night in the building, yeah, you could feel something
was something was looming.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Now I saw the headline mark twenty four year streak
of sellouts ended last night. Is that is that true.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It was actually no, it's actually in late October. Now, look,
the sellout streak was questioned on more than one occasion
over the years. But the point is October twenty ninth,
that's another game that it is just terrible three and
eight start for the MAVs where they've worked for a
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while on course to have historically bad offense. Indiana comes
in here with as many injury problems as any team
in the league. They're missing everyone and they were a
wide open aaron Nie Smith wing three away from the
Pacers winning that game on Dallas's floor. So, I mean
it was just every home game except one win over
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Toronto has been a mess. And so that was October
twenty ninth, and the MAVs very quietly didn't announce a
sellout for the first time since December two thousand and one,
talking nearly a quarter century that they themselves didn't officially
announce the sellout. So yeah, it's just the the vitriol,
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the toxicity, the negativity. I think it just took it
all took its toll. And basically Patrick Dumont, who look
Patrick Dumont, felt the need this is I mean, really
the way he has operated since the trade was I
co signed this deal. I'm going to stand alongside Nico
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Harrison because I made this trade with him. That's essentially
the way. Essentially the way sorry excuse me there, that's
the way Dumont has operated since February. But it just
got to the point I think where he has you know,
they just he just decided that we have to try
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to move on and make the vibe in the building different.
And that's what we'll see Wednesday night when Phoenix is
in here. What how much did you know? How much
different will it be than it's been for the last
nine months? And also how long will it last? You know,
I'm sure Wednesday against the Sun, there's gonna be a
semblance of euphoria. But again, but but this roster is
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still so far away. Anthony Davis has missed the last
six games with a cap strain. Lively's been out longer
than that. Kyrie Irving we still don't know when we're
going to see him after knee surgery in late March.
It's just it's just, you know, so they made this move,
but they're in no better position to win. So how
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long is this gleeful reaction going to last.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now, Mark Luca had a great start, is having a
great start, you know, already getting MVP talk what he's
doing so far in LA. Did his hot start have
a lot to do with Eco Harrison or was this
strictly what was going on inside the walls in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think it has to be a factor because he
looks sensational. But I mean, I think I feel like
I came on your Guys show every week from February
second on and said the same thing. I mean, he's
just he's a generational superstar. You cannot trade him. And
whatever issues you want to raise about his past, fitness, conditioning,
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interaction with referees, whatever it is, like, go ahead, raise
the concerns you want to raise. But this guy is
on his worst day. He is one of the three
best players in the world. He never wakes up worse
than being Okay, let's expand it, your top three, top five,
(22:46):
whatever you know, you can, You could argue, argue at
any way you want, But on my scorecard, he wakes
up as a top three player every day. And now
you're seeing a guy who, in response to the trade
and everything he did this summer and addressed the concerns
about fitness and conditioning and shows up to the Lakers
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in the best physical shape of his life and probably
the best mind frame he's been in to start a season.
And he's been absolutely fantastic. Yes, he's had to deal
with his own you know, he's been banged up a
little bit, so he's missed a few games, but you know,
and same with Austin Reeves. But Ian Reeves are clicking
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together fantastically, and without Lebron James, the Lakers are, you know,
in the upper reaches of the West. So I do
think that that is you know that that certainly it
certainly helped fuel some of the disappointment here in Dallas.
I mean just seeing but it's not a surprise to
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anyone here in Dallas. Everybody. It's you know, Lucas still
has a zillion fans here in Dallas, and they're not surprised.
They expected him to.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Be this great Jason Smith Show with Mike Harbon here
Fox Sports Radio, in the Hotline with us joining us
as he does each and every week. He's a Hall
of Famer. Mark Stein at the Steinline on Twitter. You
find it mark Stein dot substack dot com as well
go to his Twitter accounts Hee that cool Hall of
Fame card he's got there with Kobe Bryant, stay in
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La Mark. Well, let's talk about Luca and Austin Reeves,
who Jason has a really big man crush on. What
happens when Lebron James Scotty Pippen.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Now he's Scottie Pippen on this team.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Look what he's doing to me.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I think they will be dangerous. I mean, look, it's
the West is weird because it is absolutely stacked, and
everyone talks about how tough it is and how even
you see, even Utah has been a tough out here.
In the early going, Portland has raised a lot of
eyebrow with the way they play pace and speed and
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ball pressure and obviously that we knew they were going
to be good defensively. So you know, everybody in the West,
seemingly everybody in the West are close to everybody in
the West can can beat you on any given night.
So on one hand, it's just it's you know, it's
such a deeper conference in the East. But on the
other hand, the thunder are still considered the runaway favorites
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and has looked you know, they've lived up to it
here in the early season. But you know, are the
Lakers with Lebron added to the way Luca and Reeves
have started, you know, are they at the top of
the next tier or at least, you know, forcing their
way into the next tier. I mean, you can see it.
I mean, and this is you know, this is what
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Luca does. Like he he just raises the ceiling of
your team. And you know, MAVs fans were used to
that too. You know, in twenty one twenty two, Luca
took a Aim to the conference finals. You know, Jalen
Brunston was on the team too, and Jalen Brunston was
fantastic playing alongside Luca and proved, you know that he
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had a much higher ceiling than he showed to that
point when he went to Jason's knicks. But it's just that,
like this is, this is what Luca has done in
his career. He just he makes your team more dangerous
than it might look like on paper. And you know,
we'll you know, we'll see, we'll see how you know,
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does Lebron coming back mean that he can avoid a
recurrence of his injury issues for the rest of the season.
Can he play sixty games, but I mean, I think
they're going to be interesting, all right. Now.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Lastly, Mark, let let's let's go back to when the
trade was made. Right Obviously, Nico Harrison thought, we're not
going to get a Luca Don said, who was going
to be in shape that is committed. He's gonna miss games.
He's not taking care of his body. They make the
try to the Lakers, and of course it gets his attention,
and now he's got his body in shape, he's motivated.
(27:06):
If they did not trade Luca, would the Mavericks have
this Luca or would they have a Luca that is
in and out of the lineup, not taking care of
his body, and and and we would have a different
situation in Dallas right now.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I want to believe that one way or another, that
you know, he would have come to the real realization
that he's got to change some things, and the Mavericks
would ultimately see this player. You know, it's a what
if I guess nobody can can never answer. But like
just again, the thought of trading him was there was
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nothing that we would ever consider. I mean, it's been
nine months and it's still I look at him sometimes
in a Lakers uniform last week I was at Lakers Spurs.
I mean, it's just like I still don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Sometimes he's on Twitter at the Steinline. That is at
the Steinline. Check him out on Substack as well. Mark
is always buddy, appreciate your time with us. We'll talk
to you next week. Enjoy the games. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
All right, there goes Mark even Hill.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I can't I still can't believe it. I know it
still looks I believe it. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Like you go to look up a gift and it's like, no,
it still looks weird. It gets photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you know. The first time that
hit me. I remember was when Jose Conseco got traded
to the Rangers, and I'm like that, just like they
better let him wear his a's uniform playing for the Rangers.
It just looks he just looks weird in the Rangers universe. Yeah,
that looks bad. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense, like
it's in congres. Yeah, like check didn't matter. You can
picture him in any of the NBA uniforms after a while. Yeah,
(28:54):
still doesn't make sense that that photoshop is still working.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You know the kids wearing the Luca uniform with the Lakers.
It's Mandam weird Man time now to find out what's
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Steve Disager, who has more on the biggest NBA story
of the night, the Nick scoring one hundred and thirty
points of the third straight game in another big win.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Steve o still undefeated at home. I do believe Knicks
have won five in a row.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Overall.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
They're up to seven and three one thirty three to
one twenty the final over Memphis thirty two points for
Jalen Brunson. Nix is a team from three point range
twenty two for fifty five. That includes og Ananobi's one
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To toront a record for most reason a game, and
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Ten because the gunner put him up to fifty five
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There you go.
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Of course, it couldn't beat Ky Cunningham last night that
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to ten record for the Indiana as well, lost at
Utah one fifty two to one. Twenty eight. Philadelphia edge
Boston one oh two, one hundred Celtics record five and seven.
Joel and Beta the Sixers was out again tonight with
a sore knee, and Oklahoma City is eleven and one
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after ripping Golden State one twenty six one oh two.
Shay gilgas Alexander in twenty eight minutes at twenty eight
points and eleven assists, and the late game is not
yet mid third quarter at Sacramento, Denver leading the Kings
seventy three to sixty seven. The Mavericks fire general manager
Nico Harrison. Tonight, the NBA announced a new format for
this season's All Star Game, the US against the World
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in LA in February to college basketball wins for Gonzaga
and Illinois. Louisville beat rival Kentucky ninety six eighty eight
six stranked Michigan won in overtime in Detroit against Wake
Forest eighty five eighty four, and number ten Florida edge
Florida State seventy eight seventy six. Central Connecticut won at
Boston College tonight, sixty to fifty nine with a late layup.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yes, CCSU go get him Broadcasting school.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
By the way I saw a Sunny Delhi. I have
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when you go to when you go to school, Sunny
Deli is great.
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It's the India campus. It's a heck of a commute
from the Tri State area. The NHL scoreboard, it's pretty
much old done. The late game has Winnipeg with a
minute and a half left, leading four to two at Vancouver,
but Boston won. At seventh game in a row, Colorado
and Washington each one. Dallas got an overtime win LA
five to one winner at Montreal. In the new college
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football Playoff rankings, the top five stay the same, led
by number one Ohio State. Texas Tech is up to
number six. Texas is up to number ten. That could
be very important because number eleven Oklahoma right now would
not make the playoff. The ACC's highest ranked would. That's
number fifteen Miami right now number twenty four South Florida
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would get in as the best of the group of
five teams. College football selection Sunday is December seventh, By
the way, the first round is at campus sites, and
that's due to start with a Friday night game about
a week before Christmas, and then the other three games
in the first round will be on Saturday, December twentieth.
As of now, number nine Notre Dame would open at
number eight Oregon next month. The top four would get
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first round byes. Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter is out for
the year after knee surgery. The American League Manager of
the Year is Cleveland Stephen Vote. He won it seventeen
votes to ten over Toronto's John Schneider, and he won
this last year. The NL Manager of the Year the
guy who won it last year the Brewers Pat Murphy.
He received twenty seven of the thirty first place votes
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his Milwaukee squad and the number one overall seed with
ninety seven wins. The Big MLB Award results continue this
week Wednesday the cy Young winners Thursday, the MVPs will
find out in the al if it's Cal Rawley or
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Speaker 1 (32:49):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve el and clearly. John
Schneider not winning Manager of the Year, but continues to
fight the system like a true modern day Robin Hood DJ.
Get out DJ, Clearly John Schneider straightening the curves flatten
in the hills. Someday the Mountain might get him, but
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he'll never become manager of the Year in the American League. DJ, Hey,
thank you, thank You'll be here all week the only
way he knows. How do you think Waylon Jennings would
have announced, like hey, about to have the manager of
the Year vote. Don't think John Schneider is going to
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win it for the paycheck.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
He would have been the balladeer, the trumandoor for whatever
you needed him.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Exit ut out a Fresca exit swollen dome. Coming up next,
we continue on with the biggest story of the day.
And if you ever think fans don't have power us,
fans don't have power in sports. Oh no, no, because
it was fans that made a huge decision today and
got somebody fired. That's next Jason and Mike. Fox Sports.
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Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Midnight Basketball midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, Sacramento seventy eight, seventy two to Midnight Basketball League.
All right, it's almost one am East Coast time. But
you get basketball live through the nights and then we
get a game in Madrid for the NFL on Sunday,
so we got it covered.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And we need that because you know we have Jets
Patriots on Thursday night. How Come they didn't export that,
I don't know. So thanks to Mark Stein for stopping
by NBA inside er Mavericks inside or all the latest
on Nico Harrison getting fired by the Mavericks today ostensibly
because he traded Luka Donsig to the Lakers. Now here's
the thing. The Mavericks fire Nico Harrison. They did not.
(34:57):
They did not fire Nico Harrison. That now that may
be the official wording, Hey we've decided to make a move,
and DuPont saying, hey, we're gonna go in different ways.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Pere DuPont.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Neverick to Pierre DuPont. Dumont. The Mavericks didn't fire Nico Harrison.
The fans fired Nico Harrison. You think fans don't have power,
and you hear gms and owners say, you know, he
want us a part of the fans, but they don't
run this team. We don't do it. They now, the
(35:30):
fans fired Nico Harrison because the Mavericks. The one missed
The big mistake they made about this trade was they
didn't take into account just how bad a revolt the
fans were going to have when Luca got traded. Okay,
it's gonna be a shock, we're gonna move past it,
(35:51):
and we're gonna wind up being better in the long run. Now,
you can agree or disagree with the strategy, but the
one thing they didn't take into account was, boy, the
fans are pay Nine months later, they're still pissed. You
can't have a fan base continually mad against the team.
You can't have that. I'm sorry, you absolutely cannot. And
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when they started out this year, Okay, we have a
clean slate and Cooper Flag is here, we're gonna be great.
But you know what, you start out three and eleven
and you play every game at home and you can't win.
You heard Mark Stein line up the losses the Wizards
and nearly to the Pacers, who were terrible. How are
you going to spend that? You can't? And so when
(36:32):
you have a guy that stands for the angst and
the hatred and you see him at every game and
he's on the floor and every time you get on
social media and your GM's name is out there, it's
a negative headline and a bad optic. Yeah, you have
to let him go. The fans didn't get passed, and
I'm sure the Mavericks thought, it's gonna be a shock.
We get through this season, they'll see we're built a
(36:54):
little bit differently. Wasn't the greatest relationship with Luca and
the Mavericks. We had to move on than give him
three hundred million dollars. We're building around ad. Hey, we
get Cooper flag Boy, we hit it, Lucky Man a
D and Kyrie and Cooper flag We're gonna be great. No,
they're still chanting fire Nico at every game. Every image
of this guy is a reminder of a trade that
(37:16):
everybody is still mad about. You need a clean slate,
You need to be able to wipe everything away and
start over. And that's what's gonna happen, As mark Stein said,
Look Wednesday night, when they play the Suns, it's gonna
be euphoria. They I'm sure they will chant we fired Nico.
Instead of fire Nico. They'll chant we fired Nico, and
that'll be a big thing. It'll be cathartic, but you
(37:37):
have to move on. You have to start over and
wipe the sleigh clean. And that was how you did it.
Nine months later. They didn't think the fans would still
be this piss they are. You can't have fans pissed
at a franchise. It doesn't work going forward. The fans
fired Nico It.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
It always comes back to it. Winning cures all and
you're not winning. And even Cooper Flag having some big moments,
some big games, some firsts and all all of those
things that you want to celebrate, they still suck. Right
as we talk with Mark Stein, I mean that loss
to the Pelicans is about as low as you can get. Right,
it's after Zion's already off the court. They're essentially winless
(38:14):
on the year, and you have this where they roll
in on the second night of back to back, right,
they won the night before. But all of that to
say that you got short lived goodwill with the drafting
of Cooper Flag. The basketball gods smiled on you for
a moment. And he doesn't have the luxury. Remember the
Brad Pitt thing and money ball. Oh I don't watch
(38:35):
the games, like no, no, no. He goes and he
courts it and even if you were to hide it
doesn't matter because he's still the symbol, the emblem of
what that team is. And you know, we talk about
the calculus of what the team might have been if
it all broke right, Well, it took a lot of things.
It was going to take a lot of things to
break right to match the highs that you had of Luca.
(38:57):
And people are invested with however, which they've spent on
the jerseys and the tickets, and and he's been the
face of your franchise, a guy that seemed to be
really well liked by the fan base, not a guy
that ever was at arm's length at any point, right,
he was their guy. Uh, And just like that, it
was torn asunders. So, yeah, Nico Harrison, if they'd won
(39:18):
games out of the jump because of all those home games,
maybe you get a little bit of love. But that
was gonna be fleeting right as soon as there was
a downturn, it was gonna come back on him. And
unfortunately you got to have a fall guy owner and
firing himself. He ain't gonna put out a statement say
well we all did this, leave Nico alone. Nope, sorry,
(39:39):
Nico alone. Halftag, leave Nico alone, like that guy crying
for Britney Spears. Leave Britney alone, Leave Nico alone. It
was a joint to sit. No, no, no, it's all him.
It was all It was all him.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I mean, look, everybody had to weigh in on it,
everybody had to sign off on it. But that's why
nine months, Okay, we got away from everything. I get it,
but this is this is our chance. As mark Stein
told us, Hey, they wanted to give Nico the whole year,
but this has just started so badly and the fans
are still so mad. They really had no choice. I
(40:14):
mean I get it, I get why why they had
to do it. And and even if, no matter what
kind of GM you think he is, if the fans
want something so badly, you kind of have to give
it to him. I always remember Steve Phillips where GM went,
former GM and the Mets.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
He had issues at you know, outside obviously at ESPN,
but I remember him coming on the show with me
once and I asked them about, you know, fan bases
and powers they have, and he said, listen, if the
team isn't winning and the fan base is revolting, and
his anti team and is pissed at the team. Then yeah,
you have to make a change. And I understood that.
(40:51):
I understood that things are so bad and when it
gets toxic, you have to make a change to just
take the temperature down and go forward. So when he
would let go a couple of times a jam, look,
I understand, I understand it works that way. That's kind
of what the Mavericks had no choice but to do.
I mean, we have to listen to the fan. We
can't let the fans go through this. We can't have
(41:11):
this hanging over us anymore, this dark cloud.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
No, I mean you also saw it and start translating
to the box office. Brought it up about the ticket sales.
Now it goes back to the end of October where
they first started to see the trickle down. But as
the season goes and it goes south, guess what, any
of that walk up gate is gone. You're back to
the advertising of who's coming to town to try to
sell those extra tickets.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Hey, Lucas, go oh, no, we didn't need to sell
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