November 27, 2025 • 39 mins
The Chiefs/Cowboys on Thanksgiving should be the biggest game of the week but somehow, the Texans and Colts are stealing that title. A Thanksgiving edition of Would You Rather and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz hanging out with you
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's incredible for us to get to hang out with
you and help get your Thanksgiving days started right or
your wild night before Thanksgiving set off on the right tone.
We've got some huge football games coming up over the
course of this weekend for Thanksgiving weekend. And by the way,
the NFL does a brilliant job of scheduling, and we
spend so much time in April, you know, talking about
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the schedule week to week.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But these are the.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Reminders, Buck of how smart the NFL isn't making sure
that they've stacked the lineup with the best possible, like
giving us Green Bay Detroit was gonna give us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Obviously, you get division match up here.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Even if these teams suck, there was still gonna be
so much incredible sort of hype around at Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Baltimore also protected.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
They did a smart thing, and then they gave us
the two biggest brands in the sport, right Kansas City
and Dallas. And it's funny because you mentioned earlier that
Dallas hasn't been really America's team in much of your lifetime,
and I think that's an important context here because this
is America's team versus America's team. But I personally don't
have a rooting interest for either of these teams. I
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have a Raiders tattoo for the love of all things holy.
But I think anybody with two eyes can look at
it and say, Okay, what the Chiefs had become as
a brand for all of sports, but particularly for the
NFL is just absolutely people flock to it, and for
years people flock to it to root for it. Now
it feels like we're at that spot where it's become
so good that now whether people are hate watching it
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or watching it, it's like the modern Howard Stern right,
like people are in either way on consuming anything. Roger
Goodell said before that the Kansas City was like printing
money for the league. Right, So the Chiefs versus the
Cowboys is such a brilliant move. Four to thirty in
the afternoon on CBS, right in the middle of like
everybody ate the first round of dinner. Now you need
a gap to sort of recalibrate. The numbers on this
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thing are going to be epic. They're going to be huge,
and it's a reminder, as you and I have talked about,
and I want to just make sure everybody's clear on
the NFL sells you parody, and it sells you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's the league that every year has a chance. It
is not.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
There are a ton of terrible football teams more weeks
than not. There are bad products on the field. I
don't care, You don't care, nobody cares. Everybody still watches it. Right,
So Chiefs Cowboys is going to pull an epic number
and it's just going to be a reminder of the
dominance of the league.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, I don't think we need to be reminded of
the dominance of the league on a regular basis. I
think we're all fully aware how much time and not
just because you and I work in the world of
sports and I'm an NFL reporter by trade.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Uh here in Nashville using.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We're using reporter really loosely, like you follow.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
An NFL you're an NFL team, you know, hangout a reporter,
Like what would hang out?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I didn't want to say.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
It wasn't time when I was doing a lot more.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
God, if I was a groupie of a one in
ten football team, you would be able to question many,
many more things about my life decisions than you already
watched already would Yeah, no, I I just spent a
week watching everything that they paraded through Nashville for CMA.
The Lord's come on, like, what are we doing here?
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Uh so, yes, I think that I think that is fair.
I'm more pundent now that I am a reporter, But
that's either way. I'm calling to practice tomorrow because that's
my gig. I think that when you talk about the
Chiefs in particular, the polarization of this, and this is
something we touched on over the weekend. For people, I
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understand we're in a different day part so they may
not be familiar with the conversation that we had. But
like everything, it's like jeans or any kind of fashion trend,
that you may think goes defunct, but it's around long
enough to become new again. This is a life cycle
for teams and narratives and stories that we build up
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about these teams where we root for Patrick Mahomes because
Brady is the thing that's unstoppable. And finally something something
so talented, something so fun, something so explosive to watch,
and a different coach who's not as unlikable as Bill
Belichick and arguably is better at what he did or
has done throughout the course of his career than what
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Bill Belichick did, even if Bill has more rings. That's
a debate for another day, I suppose. But you root
for the Chiefs to a certain extent, and then the
Chiefs do nothing but win all of the things, and
people get tired of that after a while. So you
hate the Chiefs and you hate the Kelsey Taylor Swift combination.
And then you have the Taylor Swift element added into
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it to where it takes up a whole different demographic
than the NFL was previously occupying that the rest of
the NFL doesn't get, but Kansas City does because Travis
Kelcey is engaged to Taylor Swift, so naturally that's going
to carry a great deal more attention than your normal
standard NFL team would. And then you have it against
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the Cowboys, who, like I understand that they have championships
in their history, but it is very very much history
where the Cowboys have been versus where the Cowboys were
for their best period of time in the nineties. That
way where I almost think of the Cowboys. They're not
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losers necessarily. They've had successful regular seasons. They've won double
digit games under Mike McCarthy or Jason Garrett. I mean,
they've had success, but like I think of them as
lovable losers. I don't think of them as as America's team,
Like I just think of the Cowboys as a thing,
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like they're a side show. They're not a real NFL
franchise to me, which has to be such a smack
in the face to the largest fan base in the NFL,
arguably in America, the Dallas Cowboys. Where I'm of a
generation where I don't think about the Cowboys at all
in terms of meaningful winning. So to see them get
Philadelphia the way that they did, for people to find
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joy in the Cowboys winning, that way, to root for
the Cowboys, even regardless of whether you're.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
A Cowboys fan or not. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I thought that was a unique experience for me in
my sports consuming lifetime.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
In thirty two years.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Now, the Cowboys are Nickelback, Like they just look a
lot of people, Like everybody says they hate Nickelback, but
the concerts still sell out.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
People go see Nickelback. The music did really well.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Imagine Dragons. Maybe the Cowboys are Imagine Dragons. They were
the most band in the world for two different.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Years, two different years. Yeah, two different years.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Imagine Dragon is the most downloaded band in the most
extreamed band in the world. Like, so there is a
moment here where like I get it that the Cowboys
are popular. It doesn't mean the Cowboys are good, right,
the Cowboys are popular, but it doesn't mean that the
Cowboys are particularly special. That's the thing I've always said
is that, like every time a Cowboys fan says, well,
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we haven't won a Super Bowl since the nineties, Okay,
get in line. A ton of teams haven't won the
Super Bowl since the nineties. You're not special, You're just Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
If I'm not mistaken, there's twelve teams that have never
won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That number sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know what if thought, but like, that's every
time I hear Cowboys fans way, it's been this long
since we would okay you and the rest of the
NFL like, that's sort of the way this system's built,
and it hasn't been your era. So I don't really
care about the Cowboys one way or the other, which
I think does sort of speak to a whole other
portion of this. But going back to what you've said
now about Dallas and okay, they come back against Philadelphia
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and then talking about Kansas City, where's the love for
the Eagles? Like, just think about this, two Super Bowls
in three years, a convincing win over the team that
supposedly everybody does hate now and the Chiefs. Right, they
go out and they win that Super Bowl. They're eight
and three this year, and God, it just feels like
people are just doing wild acrobatics to try and tell
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us how broken the.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Eagles are, how how just how all of the problems
that the Eagles have.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It doesn't feel like there's the same level of love
that we usually have for a defending champion.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Why I don't think they're doing acrobatics.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
When AJ Brown is telling you it every turn publicly,
that something's broken about broken about it, right like that.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
That's not people doing acrobatics.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That's a star wide receiver, one of the most famous
names in the league, saying like, yeah, this thing screwed up.
We could be better. I know we're eight in three.
We could be a lot better.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But we loved it when Bill belichicked it. We didn't,
but many people loved it when Belichick did that. Like
AJ Brown is a student of the standard. Is the standard, right?
And as I've said to you before, Nick Saban famously
told his players, don't worry about being the best. That
is a variable you cannot control. Worry about being your best,
and if you are your best every day, you'll be
just fine. AJ Brown looks around and says, we are
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not our best.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't fault that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I don't think he's wrong even in how he's saying that.
But we seem to love it. When Tom Brady did
that and he was winning Super Bowls for the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
People seem to fall in love with Bill and Brady.
Where is that? Why is it?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Is it just because they boot Santa Claus the generation
ago like for people to decide they didn't like the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It took him.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
You've done. Have you done a game in Philly? No?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Okay, it's it is so you you talk about the
nature of my job. I have done. I have covered
a game in Philadelphia once in my life. I've covered
multiple games Titans Eagles, but the first time that I
was at the link was twenty twenty two. That was
the season that they traded Aj Brown to the Eagles
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from the Titans. That was as hostile an environment as
I've ever been in, whether it be SEC college football
or NFL or college basketball, anything that you can imagine.
I would never, ever, ever recommend that any kind of
a fan that's not an Eagles fan attended the Eagles game.
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But to watch that through three foot a glass for
the press box and to not have to be in
the middle of all that was awesome. Like are they
are thoroughly hateable? But I love them. I love Eagles fans.
I think they're insane. I think that the passion that
they display for their team. Obviously I don't condone some
of the you know, the extracurriculars. To put it diplomatically,
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that Eagles fans participate in at the at the to
the detriment of other fans that would dare attend their games.
But like they they they are wired differently to the
point where nobody's going to root for them.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Nobody, nobody. I don't want to say that nobody.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Should root for them, but nobody will root for that
fan base, and that fan base will forever be associated
with that football team. It's not as bad, I don't think.
Maybe it is as toxic around the Sixers. God knows lately,
although Philadelphia it's had a better start to the season
given the kind of players that they're missing than I
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think anybody anticipated, So maybe the vibes are good. I
can't speak to the Phillies or the Flyers or anything
like that. All I know is Eagles fans are the
most loathed fan base in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
So had anybody else won.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
The championship, like if the Arizona Cardinals won a Super Bowl,
when you just be happy for Cardinals fans?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Like what few exist in the world.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
If the Chargers want to sue, I'd say this to
somebody who just did a game in Arizona. I like,
damn game the Titans won this year. Nobody, nobody in
attendance for that. If the Raiders won a Super Bowl,
and I know that the Raiders have been great in
the past, but that past.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Is we're very, very far removed for that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
If the Raiders won the Super Bowl at any time
in the next ten years, I would just feel happy
for Raiders fans because they've suffered. Philly fans are not
They're not a fan base.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
You root for. It's not about that team.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But I guess, like, because I am a Raiders fan,
I look at it and say, Okay, I remember the
first game I went to in Oakland and when you
saw the elevated stands with armed guards looking out over
the tailgate area and all of the armed guards like
National Guard type people walking around, and I remember I was.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I was there and lucky enough to be, you.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Know, escorted by the team when I was there, and
me and my buddies went up to the person that
was helping us and I said, Hey, we want to
go somewhere and have a drink after this, and they
were like, oh God, no, get out of this area
as fast as you can.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That came wrong Oakland. At the time, They're like, you
don't want to be here. This is not safe. I mean,
I hear you on Eagles fan base.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'm never gonna throw I can't throw rocks like I'm
not that Raiders fan. But I'm certainly certainly aware of
the way that you know, Raiders fans were perceived, and
rightfully so. I went to a Steelers game against the
Raiders in the early two thousands when rich In and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Through the ball like thirty straight times. It's a great game.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Raiders kick the snot out of them.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But I was standing in a urinal and the guy
next to me, he was wearing a Raiders jersey, and
I watched the entire Steelers fan base beat the snot
out of the guy, drag him out to the concourse
and leave him there essentially for dead because he was
wearing a Raiders shirt. Guy next to me, as I
was leaving the stadium said, hey, take off all your
Raiders care if you want to make it out here safe.
There are bad fan bases all across the NFL. There
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are fan bases that I think have absurdly lost their
mind on what they what they're supposed to be creating
inside of a stadium, that believed that they could essentially
be criminals just because they're in an NFL game.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Happens all the time. It's happened all the time. I
think it's stupid.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
That being said, I'm not going to root against the
Eagles because their fans are some kind of way when
I think, I'm.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Not saying that either. I'm not rooting against him, No,
but I think that's to understand. If people aren't actively
rooting for Philadelphia as a city, it's just weird too.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Usually, we love, we love the beginning era of dominance.
I don't know, it just feels like we're not there yet.
That being said, I did mention this earlier. We've got
a couple of big games coming up this weekend, one
game that could absolutely decide the future of one of
the divisions in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
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For all the conversation about Thanksgiving Day game, a big
Black Friday game, there might not be a bigger game
left on the NFL schedule the one we get Sunday afternoon.
And I can't believe I'm saying this now, because if
you'd have told me in August that the biggest game
of this weekend would be Houston at Indy, I would
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have laughed at you. But now as we sit, boy,
it feels like everybody is trying to find a way
to jump off the Titanic as it sinks for the Colts,
and everybody's finding a way instead to jump on Houston.
And I'm trying to figure out which one of these
teams can separate because Buck Rising Jason Fits hanging out
on Fox Sports Radio. These two teams have plenty left
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in front of them, and there's a very real chance
for the Houston Texans to shock the world and win
their way into a division title.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Book there's a chance, there's a chance.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He doesn't think there's even a chance.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I mean, I'm not against because again, the defense is awesome,
like they are genuinely awesome. But I the wild card
here is CJ. Stroud. We mentioned earlier. If you're just
now joining us, or if you haven't been aware that
c J. Stroud was a full participant in practice today.
He has obviously missed the last three games for the Texans,
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in which they have won all three. They are now
over five hundred. They are looking to continue to build
upon that. They look like they've got some decent momentum.
But at the same time as their momentum comes, are
they going to reassert CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I would assume they would reassert CJ.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Stroud back in the lineup, and that's not a guaranteed
improvement at this point in time. Davis Mills has objectively,
and I know it's a smaller sample size, But Davis
Mills has been objectively the better quarterback for them, or
at least the more efficient quarterback. He's not the more
talented player, obviously, So I believe more in what the
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Colts have to mitigate the bad Daniel Jones moments, because
they haven't been that many of them.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean, I know he.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Collapsed against the Steelers and they almost let the Falcons
beat them in what was that Berlin or Munich where
we playing the Germany games right now? The Germany game
that they played here recently, that they required overtime to
get past a then three win Falcons team, and they've
just recently come off and overtime defeat on the road
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at Kansas City. If you'd have told me, FITZI that,
I mean, you picked the Colts to win the AFC
South this year, you were really the only person I
feel like I heard publicly anyway that buying that much
Colt stock before this season actually began. If you'd have
told me, or if I'd have told you, even if
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you'd picked the Colts to win the division, that they
would go to Kansas City and lose it overtime, you
would have said, yeah, to lose it overtime at Kansas City.
At that point, with not knowing what we know now objectively,
you just said that's a that's a good loss.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's kind of like the Seattle Seahawks losing in a
one score game to the Rams where Sam Darnold threw
four interceptions, but they're still in a one score game.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Just bite turning the ball over that way.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
He said, that's as about good as good of a
loss as a team could take on the season.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Indy just has so much more to work with.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Their defense is an elite the way that Houston's is,
but it's good enough. And how many different ways they
have to beat you on offense and less multiple playmakers
for the Colts get hurt.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I just don't see them.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I don't see teams stopping Jonathan Taylor the way that
the Chiefs sold out to stop Jonathan Taylor this past
week and it being a successful Formula weekend week out,
Tyler Warren, Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, all these other skill
players that they have to beat you with. I think they're,
for lack of a better term, portfolio is diverse enough
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as an offense that they can find ways to get
past the Houston Texans, even though the Houston Texans are
again elite at every level of their defense.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So here's what makes me nervous, because I believe in
the Colts. I believe the Cults are a better team
than the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Today, there are two games remaining on the schedule for
the Colts against the Texans. There are also two games
remaining against the Jags. Remarkably, they still have four games
left to war in Division.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The only other.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Two games on their schedule at Seattle and against San Francisco.
That's a brutal schedule to me for them to have
to face down the path the rest of the season.
Now that being said, I don't know what to make
of the Texans because again, like if you look at
these three wins you mentioned, they've won three straight games
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taking nothing away. The win over Buffalo was a big win.
The week before that, boy, they did not look good
in beating the Tennessee Titans sixteen thirteen. That was not
a pretty football game. You saw that football game. There's
very little about the Texans, particularly offensively, that was impressive
about that. The week before they had the weirdest win
over the Jags in a game that it took just
a massive meltdown by the Jags for them to win.
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So Davis Mills has sent the Texans to three straight wins.
If I want to be pro Texans in this, then
it's easy for me to.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Say, Man, they found a way to win against the Jags.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
They eaked out a tough win in the division against
the Titans, then they beat the Bills. If I don't
want to feel good about the Texans, and I can say, wow,
that's of those three wins, two of them were against
what I think is pretty pathetic competition. I don't think
the Jags are a very good football team this year.
I think they've won some games. There's a difference. I
don't think the Titans are very good at all. So
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I can find both sides of it. It's the remaining
schedule with the Colts that has me nervous, admittedly. And
it's the fact that, as you mentioned, when you commit
everything to shutting down Jonathan Taylor when he rushes for
whatever it was fifty eight yards last week, and then
you put it on Daniel Jones, Man, Daniel Jones has
got to be He's got to be better. He's got
to be better. When it's his game to win, and
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we haven't really had to see him do that that much.
So I think it's the combination of all of these
things that just make me nervous about the Colts moving forward.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, I get that logic. It's the AFC South.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
The four AFC South games remaining on their schedule is
a very bizarre quirk there that I can't imagine Colts
fans are terribly pleased about just looking at Houston's Road
the rest of the way through. They are at Indianapolis
this weekend, then at the Chiefs home, Cardinals home Raiders
at Chargers home Colts to.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
End the regular season.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
So yeah, I mean easier definitely when you have the Cardinals,
Raiders and a banged up Chargers team left on your schedule,
But you're still.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Dealing with.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
A lesser hand if you're the Texans, especially if CJ.
Stroud is going to come back and make this thing
a little more erratic. I just don't I think that
whatever Indy, whatever setbacks Indie might experience the rest of
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the way through, I think that the thing that they've
done that's so important is that they've bought themselves that
margin for error FITZI because I could see them, you know,
leveling out and going what we have six games left,
eight three and three down the stretch, and that's still
being good enough to win the AFC South in its
current state. Jacksonville may push them, Houston may push them,
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but I think that they to get that eight and
three start was so critical, so unexpected, and they did
it against reasonably good competition to where they when they
do hit the toughest stretch of their schedule, which will
be the final month of the regular season, that they
can at least have something to fall back on.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They definitely gave themselves a bigger advantage going into this
portion of the season than I ever could have expected.
And to your point, if they only go five hundred
the rest of the way, they still finished eleven and six.
This right has been absolutely it's it's pretty remarkable to
see what's happened here, and it's changed the way that
we talk about Shane Steiken.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
We need to take a look at this week.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So often we want to give up on coaching quarterback,
but we have a living, eating, breathing example right now
in the NFL of why sometimes you have to let
the context of all of it play out before you
make big decisions, which I think every fan base needs
to hear. We'll talk more about that in a second,
but first, Manzi belongios, get us caught up on what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I know it's late, but there are still games going on.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Yeah, everything's wrapping up as we speak, but it is
a late night in sports, and already Thursday on some
parts of the country. On this Thanksgiving Thursday, guys, there
are three NFL games on the schedule. It all starts
from Detroit Lions hosting the Packers. That's at one pm
Eastern time, then the Chiefs and the Cowboys. Running Back
Isamha Checko is expected to play for Kansas City. He's
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missed the last couple of games with a knee injury.
And it ends in Baltimore as the Ravens will be
hosting the Bengals. That kicks off at a twenty pm
Eastern time, and Joe Burrow is expected to start for Cincinnati.
Other NFL news, Panther safety Trevon Morg's appeal of his
one game suspension for unsportsmanlike conduct was denied, so he's
not gonna miss Sunday's game against the Rams, as well
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as sixty five thousand dollars no pointal. Four time Pro
Bowl Detroit Lions center Frank Ragnow is coming out of retirement.
And when it comes to the NBA, well, the last
game was the Rockets and the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It was fun game.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Houston won at one oh four to one hundred, no KD,
no Kevin Durant, no problem reached. Shepherd dropped thirty one
points for Houston. That's a career high. Steph Curry struggled
from the field and to make it worse, he kind
of took a hit in the fourth quarter. They just
announced that he suffered a right quad contusion. That's Steph Curry.
The Suns had a won twelve to one hundred win
over the Kings. Mark Williams with a double double twenty
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one points and sixteen rebounds. Nicks crushed the Hornets won
twenty nine to one oh one. Jalen Brunson thirty three
points in that one.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
The Heat topped the Bucks.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
One O six to one ozho three, Tyler hero A
twenty nine points and Brandon Ingram hit the game the
game winner as the Raptors defeated the Pacers ninety seven
to ninety five. The Celtics survived one seventeen to to
one fourteen against the Piston, snapping Detroit's thirteen game winning streak.
They were down three to Stroit was down three with
five seconds left and Kate Cunningham was fouled at the three.
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He only made two free throws, he could have tied
the game. It didn't work out. Cunningham ended with forty
two points in the loss. But it is the Thunder
season and everyone else is just here to play for
second place because they are just cruising through the season.
They're eighteen and one, the fifth NBA team in history
to start the season eighteen and one.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Are better.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
They won ten in a row. They outscored the Timberwolves
one thirteen to one oh five. Shay Gildas Alexander dropped
forty points in the win. Anthony Davis by the way
of the Mavericks. He returned to practice on Wednesday. He
could play against the Lakers on Friday. He's missed the
last fourteen games with a strained left calf. When it
comes to baseball, the Blue jayser signing pitcher Dylan Sees
to a seven year two hundred and ten million dollar
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contract pending a physical. In the NHL, the Capital's top
the Jets forty three. Alex Ovechkin scored his nine hundred
and eighth career goal, while the Avalanche of won ten
in a row after shutting out the Shark six zero,
Wild edged the Blackhawks forty three in overtime to extend
their winning streak to six, and the Lightning have won
five in a row after beating the Flames five to one. Guys,
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Happy Thanksgiving, What a pleasure. Enjoy the rest of your
day and weekend. And good luck to cam Hord and
the Titans there buck, oh.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Luck.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I ain't got nothing to do with it, but your sentiments,
I'm sure appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't know how I feel about the factors. You
didn't say good luck to the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
There was no like good luck?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Will what luck is there?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Exactly?
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Exactly?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The Raiders are rough.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
They're rough, They're rough, you know, listen, the Clippers are rough,
like I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I don't know if I need to sage, you know,
put stage to into it dome or like light up
some ca I don't know what I need to do.
Get someone's hair put it on a voodoo doll. But
maybe I'll do it for your raiders too.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Please, that is a great idea. I'm in. I'm in
for this.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I will take whatever whatever voodoo dolls people want to try. Like, look,
I get hey, football gods. Whatever I did that made
you guys angry twenty years ago. I hear you, and
I'm sorry. That's all I could say. Mancy, you are
the best. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Thanksgiving guys, this was fun. That's up my whole day
when we get to talk to Mancy Bologno. She's one
of the best in the world. Uh, he's Buck Rising.
I'm Jason fitz.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
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I mean, it's just an absolute hack. If you missed
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Speaker 2 (27:38):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. Look. I know we
say this a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
But I just I watched Daniel Jones with Shane Steichen,
and I continue to think about the fact that styles
make fights, right, like you watch cam Ward for the Titans.
That we just said, good look, but I think we
can all identify that the most important thing for the
Titans is that they bring in a head coach next
year that is the right type of head coach to
get the most out of cam Warton, Right, And this
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is what we do. You mentioned earlier, Davis Mills, Right.
We talked a little earlier about Mac Jones.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
There are some veteran quarterbacks in the league that we
give up on this every year. We gave up on
Sam Donald, we gave up on Baker Mayfield. At one point,
we gave up on Geno Smith. Maybe we should again.
But you look at some of these things and you
got to ask yourself how much of it is the
player and how much of it is the system? And
I don't think any of us really know the answer
to it. Buck, It's a nuanced conversation where it's the
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balance of the two together. I just think that for
every fan base that thinks, you know what, we need
a quarterback, Okay, Kayleb Williams doesn't look like Katla Williams
until he starts to get Ben Johnson though, right, Like,
at some point, you don't just need a quarterback. You
need a quarterback and a coach together that speak the
same love language, and they can figure out a way
to make that love language work in a real impalpable way.
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So it's not like the Cardinals aren't sitting here saying, oh,
what we need is a new quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Okay, sure that might be part of it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You might need a new quarterback, yes, I'll acquies to that,
but you also might need the right person to get
the most out of that quarterback, and.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Those guys are harder and harder to find.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So it's just like I think, so often we just
decide that it's the player that's the problem without acknowledging
that so often it's also the ability of the coach
to find the right system for that player.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And it's too much.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Again, I understand why people hyper scrutinize the quarterback position,
but it's just simply no one quarterback, no matter how
great they are, no matter how talented, no matter how
athletic or skilled any of these things, it's not enough
in the ultimate team sport to expect a quarterback to
be that much of a game changer, so over and
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above the importance of every other piece and part that
has to work in concert with the quarterback that to
me FITSI. We just get so long lost in those
kind of conversations that we ignore what actually sets a
quarterback up for success. The dialogue around Caleb Williams prior
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to Ben Johnson being hired, and listen, they made a
mistake in keeping Eberflus, and clearly they didn't believe it
that much in him anyway, for as quickly as they
fired him. I can relate to a similar situation where
the Titan Titans should have fired Bride Callahan after going
three and fourteen last season. They brought him back and
then fired him. What was the Raiders game six weeks
in Week six, I believe is when he lost to
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your beloved Las Vegas Raiders, and one of the ugliest
games I've seen at any point in my NFL career,
much less just this NFL season alone. Like the Titans.
For example, cam Ward's the number one overall pick in
this past year's draft. They are tracking very much to
have the number one overall pick in the draft again,
and maybe because they are so bad in consecutive years.
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They have no business being this bad in consecutive years,
but they are, and their schedule is tough and whatever,
like it's going to result in a top draft pick.
If not the number one draft pick, they may get
a situation where, all right, we got the.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Quarterback the first time around.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Now let's trade out of this number one overall draft
pick and let's build out the rest of the roster.
That is one way to do it, I personally, And
I know it's a stupid thing to say because it's
just simply in retrospect and what's done is done. But
I personally wish the Titans, if I was a Titans fan,
would have taken the Giants trade to come up to
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number one overall to build out a better roster, even
if it meant a slightly lesser quarterback situation. I think
that you can make a lot work to your point
with a coach and a quarterback situation that may not
have the highest talent ceiling. But I think that Davis
Mills is a different version of that conversation. I think
Mac Jones is a different version of that conversation. Sam
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Darnold right, there are replacement levels starting quarterbacks that have
the ability, because they are professional athletes, to be above
average at certain points, but if you don't have the
roster around them to support it, then it's all for nought.
So I almost if I was a Titans fan, I
would have some buyers remorse. Even as cam is coming
off a couple of his best performances of the season
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then against quality defenses the Texans and the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
To his credit, he's at least.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Looking like he is stacking performances, even if the wins
aren't coming outright yet because the team is so awful
around him. But at the end of the day, I
think he's been thrust into a tough situation for his
own development, and I think in a better world, I
would have liked to see cam Ward on the Giants
because it would have given him a better chance for success.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
To me, as I said to somebody this week that asked,
are the Raiders going to take a quarterback this offseason
in the draft, probably they probably should, but to me
what I've seen over the last few weeks from their
offensive line, you could put Moses back there, specifically Moses
because he has to part the ridcia, so you'd have
to put somebody back there like that. I just want
to remin everybody that if the playoffs started today, Daniel
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Jones would start a playoff game. If the playoffs started today,
would we would have Baker Mayfield starting a playoff game
he was given up on, we'd have we'd have the
number of retreade quarterbacks here.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Sam Darnold would start a playoff game, right, So.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Just just a reminder that everybody says, oh, got to
go find a quarterback, especially when you start to act
to then acknowledge that you've got to draft a quarterback first.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Overall, Rock Party would be starting a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Did anybody come into the process of Rock Party thinking, Wow,
that guy's the guy for everybody who thinks that the
quarterback is going to fix everything for your team. The
Rams are where they are because they're a great team
that also happens to have a great quarterback. It's it's
no one portion of it, it's all of it combined.
It just takes more time for that to be accomplished.
All right, three your time, It is time for the
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with Mike Harmon. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody hanging out.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
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Speaker 3 (34:18):
Time you've ever hung out with us, you can check
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Speaker 2 (34:29):
That's a fifty to fifty Really.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Excuse you, we've missed the same amount of shows.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I mean, since I'm just saying you would admit that
maybe sometimes, you know, there's just sometimes a buck's got
a lot going on. He's got a lot, Like it's
just what happens when you're Buck rising, you know, it's
just it's it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
If you listen to us on Saturdays, you know that
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Speaker 2 (34:52):
Book, It is time for.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Word you Rather?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I think it's easy, guys, don't think too hard. Would
you rather? Bucket?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
It's no good? Or face it?
Speaker 8 (35:09):
All?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Lee, come in and give us some questions. We'll figure
out would we rather? This is very simple concept and
we'll go through some What do you got for us? Brother? Well,
it's funny you guys.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
You know last time we all hung out together, I
think we were doing a Halloween edition of would you rather?
So now I have a Thanksgiving Day a little edition
of would you rather?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
For the for the two of you's, how about this?
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Would you rather have to hunt and gather all the
food you are eating for Thanksgiving? Or eat only McDonald's.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Oh, eat only McDonald's. I would die if I had
not my food.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
He's kidding me. I haven't I have.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I haven't had to work harder than a trip to
the farmer's market to get a meal in thirty two
years of life.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Give me the Mickey D's.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
One of my buddies. Just an avid, avid hunter. And
I always used to say so to be clear, you
dressing camo. You sit quietly for hours at a time,
You sit in a tree, stand far away from the
animal with the weapon that they don't have, and drench
yourself in their.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Urine, and you think you won. I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I don't really understand it. Like, so, yeah, I'm in
on the McDonald's. I'll take the McDonald's all day, every day. Well,
I would never be able to hunt for my food either,
Like I would.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Just end up, I'd end up emaciating.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Yeah, turkey's easy game, but they're they're hard to They're
hard to clean and prepare, prepare, So i'd probably go
with the McDonald.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh no, if I got to clean it, i'm definitely out.
I'm way to score. Yeah, that's actually the hardest part.
That's the word.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm out. Guys.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Would you rather sit at the kids table or talk
politics at the adult stable?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I'd rather talk politics at the adults table. And here's why,
because I genuinely don't.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Care about politics.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
So the most important thing that I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna stir everybody use
like it doesn't matter. I am just gonna no matter
what the position is, I will simply take the opposite
just to make sure that I fire up the entire room.
I will create just legendary arguments that will be member
for generations to come at them.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Like remember when Uncle Book hit Uncle Steve, Like, that's
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
And I'm gonna do that all by sitting at the
adult table and just arguing politics.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I would also choose the adults table with politics. But
that's because and it's not because I'm you know, super
motivated to have my political thoughts known or to argue
the point. I just children make me deeply uncomfortable. I
don't know what to say to them. I don't know
how to talk to them. God knows. I don't want
to eat around them or have them eat around me.
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I feel like they're messing.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
No bang, you guys, would you rather miss the orders
and be late to Thanksgiving because you're at the Macy's
Day Parade or something equivalent, Or would you rather leave
early miss dessert because you're getting in line for Black
Friday deals?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh that's easy I'm getting in line for Black Friday deals.
I am all over blackri I love Black Friday shopping.
And let me be clear, I don't need the deals.
I just love the chaos. I'm that guy like I
love the Christmas music.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I'm gonna be out like in a Grench hoodie, be
out doing the whole thing like I want to be
in the chaos of it.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I missed the.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Good old days where people you know violently pushed each
other over to try and get a TV for half price.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Like I want the chaos a Black Friday. I love it.
I like Black Friday better than I like Nanks timming.
So yeah, I'm all in on that.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
That's a dumb thing to say.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I think that the I've done the Macy's Day Parade before.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
And I don't really care that much about the Thanksgiving
food either.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I would be just as satisfied with a dirty water dogs.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I was also in the Macy's Day Parade once. Like
we're saying the same thing right now. I wasn't okay,
go ahead, was it?
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I'm shut?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (38:37):
Would you rather spend us smug a little jerk with
all his albums in the background.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Oh, I was also in the Macy's Day parade. Just
shut the hell up.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh that's the level of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
We haven't.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
We don't have time for nother No, we don't. But
happy Thanksgiving to you guys. Oh, you guys have done
all the hard work.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
We really appreciate everybody at Fox letting us take the
reins for a night, for four glorious hours. Most important,
we appreciate all you guys that took the time to listen, keepstake,
don't move your radio station anywhere, come hang out with
us on a Saturday sometime. Thanks so much for listening
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz hanging out with you
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's incredible for us to get to hang out with
you and help get your Thanksgiving days started right or
your wild night before Thanksgiving set off on the right tone.
We've got some huge football games coming up over the
course of this weekend for Thanksgiving weekend. And by the way,
the NFL does a brilliant job of scheduling, and we
spend so much time in April, you know, talking about
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the schedule week to week.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But these are the.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Reminders, Buck of how smart the NFL isn't making sure
that they've stacked the lineup with the best possible, like
giving us Green Bay Detroit was gonna give us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Obviously, you get division match up here.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Even if these teams suck, there was still gonna be
so much incredible sort of hype around at Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Baltimore also protected.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
They did a smart thing, and then they gave us
the two biggest brands in the sport, right Kansas City
and Dallas. And it's funny because you mentioned earlier that
Dallas hasn't been really America's team in much of your lifetime,
and I think that's an important context here because this
is America's team versus America's team. But I personally don't
have a rooting interest for either of these teams. I
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have a Raiders tattoo for the love of all things holy.
But I think anybody with two eyes can look at
it and say, Okay, what the Chiefs had become as
a brand for all of sports, but particularly for the
NFL is just absolutely people flock to it, and for
years people flock to it to root for it. Now
it feels like we're at that spot where it's become
so good that now whether people are hate watching it
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or watching it, it's like the modern Howard Stern right,
like people are in either way on consuming anything. Roger
Goodell said before that the Kansas City was like printing
money for the league. Right, So the Chiefs versus the
Cowboys is such a brilliant move. Four to thirty in
the afternoon on CBS, right in the middle of like
everybody ate the first round of dinner. Now you need
a gap to sort of recalibrate. The numbers on this
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thing are going to be epic. They're going to be huge,
and it's a reminder, as you and I have talked about,
and I want to just make sure everybody's clear on
the NFL sells you parody, and it sells you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's the league that every year has a chance. It
is not.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
There are a ton of terrible football teams more weeks
than not. There are bad products on the field. I
don't care, You don't care, nobody cares. Everybody still watches it. Right,
So Chiefs Cowboys is going to pull an epic number
and it's just going to be a reminder of the
dominance of the league.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, I don't think we need to be reminded of
the dominance of the league on a regular basis. I
think we're all fully aware how much time and not
just because you and I work in the world of
sports and I'm an NFL reporter by trade.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Uh here in Nashville using.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We're using reporter really loosely, like you follow.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
An NFL you're an NFL team, you know, hangout a reporter,
Like what would hang out?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I didn't want to say.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
It wasn't time when I was doing a lot more.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
God, if I was a groupie of a one in
ten football team, you would be able to question many,
many more things about my life decisions than you already
watched already would Yeah, no, I I just spent a
week watching everything that they paraded through Nashville for CMA.
The Lord's come on, like, what are we doing here?
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Uh so, yes, I think that I think that is fair.
I'm more pundent now that I am a reporter, But
that's either way. I'm calling to practice tomorrow because that's
my gig. I think that when you talk about the
Chiefs in particular, the polarization of this, and this is
something we touched on over the weekend. For people, I
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understand we're in a different day part so they may
not be familiar with the conversation that we had. But
like everything, it's like jeans or any kind of fashion trend,
that you may think goes defunct, but it's around long
enough to become new again. This is a life cycle
for teams and narratives and stories that we build up
(04:22):
about these teams where we root for Patrick Mahomes because
Brady is the thing that's unstoppable. And finally something something
so talented, something so fun, something so explosive to watch,
and a different coach who's not as unlikable as Bill
Belichick and arguably is better at what he did or
has done throughout the course of his career than what
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Bill Belichick did, even if Bill has more rings. That's
a debate for another day, I suppose. But you root
for the Chiefs to a certain extent, and then the
Chiefs do nothing but win all of the things, and
people get tired of that after a while. So you
hate the Chiefs and you hate the Kelsey Taylor Swift combination.
And then you have the Taylor Swift element added into
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it to where it takes up a whole different demographic
than the NFL was previously occupying that the rest of
the NFL doesn't get, but Kansas City does because Travis
Kelcey is engaged to Taylor Swift, so naturally that's going
to carry a great deal more attention than your normal
standard NFL team would. And then you have it against
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the Cowboys, who, like I understand that they have championships
in their history, but it is very very much history
where the Cowboys have been versus where the Cowboys were
for their best period of time in the nineties. That
way where I almost think of the Cowboys. They're not
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losers necessarily. They've had successful regular seasons. They've won double
digit games under Mike McCarthy or Jason Garrett. I mean,
they've had success, but like I think of them as
lovable losers. I don't think of them as as America's team,
Like I just think of the Cowboys as a thing,
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like they're a side show. They're not a real NFL
franchise to me, which has to be such a smack
in the face to the largest fan base in the NFL,
arguably in America, the Dallas Cowboys. Where I'm of a
generation where I don't think about the Cowboys at all
in terms of meaningful winning. So to see them get
Philadelphia the way that they did, for people to find
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joy in the Cowboys winning, that way, to root for
the Cowboys, even regardless of whether you're.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
A Cowboys fan or not. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I thought that was a unique experience for me in
my sports consuming lifetime.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
In thirty two years.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Now, the Cowboys are Nickelback, Like they just look a
lot of people, Like everybody says they hate Nickelback, but
the concerts still sell out.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
People go see Nickelback. The music did really well.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Imagine Dragons. Maybe the Cowboys are Imagine Dragons. They were
the most band in the world for two different.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Years, two different years. Yeah, two different years.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Imagine Dragon is the most downloaded band in the most
extreamed band in the world. Like, so there is a
moment here where like I get it that the Cowboys
are popular. It doesn't mean the Cowboys are good, right,
the Cowboys are popular, but it doesn't mean that the
Cowboys are particularly special. That's the thing I've always said
is that, like every time a Cowboys fan says, well,
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we haven't won a Super Bowl since the nineties, Okay,
get in line. A ton of teams haven't won the
Super Bowl since the nineties. You're not special, You're just Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
If I'm not mistaken, there's twelve teams that have never
won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That number sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know what if thought, but like, that's every
time I hear Cowboys fans way, it's been this long
since we would okay you and the rest of the
NFL like, that's sort of the way this system's built,
and it hasn't been your era. So I don't really
care about the Cowboys one way or the other, which
I think does sort of speak to a whole other
portion of this. But going back to what you've said
now about Dallas and okay, they come back against Philadelphia
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and then talking about Kansas City, where's the love for
the Eagles? Like, just think about this, two Super Bowls
in three years, a convincing win over the team that
supposedly everybody does hate now and the Chiefs. Right, they
go out and they win that Super Bowl. They're eight
and three this year, and God, it just feels like
people are just doing wild acrobatics to try and tell
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us how broken the.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Eagles are, how how just how all of the problems
that the Eagles have.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It doesn't feel like there's the same level of love
that we usually have for a defending champion.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Why I don't think they're doing acrobatics.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
When AJ Brown is telling you it every turn publicly,
that something's broken about broken about it, right like that.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
That's not people doing acrobatics.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That's a star wide receiver, one of the most famous
names in the league, saying like, yeah, this thing screwed up.
We could be better. I know we're eight in three.
We could be a lot better.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But we loved it when Bill belichicked it. We didn't,
but many people loved it when Belichick did that. Like
AJ Brown is a student of the standard. Is the standard, right?
And as I've said to you before, Nick Saban famously
told his players, don't worry about being the best. That
is a variable you cannot control. Worry about being your best,
and if you are your best every day, you'll be
just fine. AJ Brown looks around and says, we are
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not our best.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't fault that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I don't think he's wrong even in how he's saying that.
But we seem to love it. When Tom Brady did
that and he was winning Super Bowls for the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
People seem to fall in love with Bill and Brady.
Where is that? Why is it?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Is it just because they boot Santa Claus the generation
ago like for people to decide they didn't like the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It took him.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
You've done. Have you done a game in Philly? No?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Okay, it's it is so you you talk about the
nature of my job. I have done. I have covered
a game in Philadelphia once in my life. I've covered
multiple games Titans Eagles, but the first time that I
was at the link was twenty twenty two. That was
the season that they traded Aj Brown to the Eagles
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from the Titans. That was as hostile an environment as
I've ever been in, whether it be SEC college football
or NFL or college basketball, anything that you can imagine.
I would never, ever, ever recommend that any kind of
a fan that's not an Eagles fan attended the Eagles game.
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But to watch that through three foot a glass for
the press box and to not have to be in
the middle of all that was awesome. Like are they
are thoroughly hateable? But I love them. I love Eagles fans.
I think they're insane. I think that the passion that
they display for their team. Obviously I don't condone some
of the you know, the extracurriculars. To put it diplomatically,
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that Eagles fans participate in at the at the to
the detriment of other fans that would dare attend their games.
But like they they they are wired differently to the
point where nobody's going to root for them.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Nobody, nobody. I don't want to say that nobody.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Should root for them, but nobody will root for that
fan base, and that fan base will forever be associated
with that football team. It's not as bad, I don't think.
Maybe it is as toxic around the Sixers. God knows lately,
although Philadelphia it's had a better start to the season
given the kind of players that they're missing than I
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think anybody anticipated, So maybe the vibes are good. I
can't speak to the Phillies or the Flyers or anything
like that. All I know is Eagles fans are the
most loathed fan base in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
So had anybody else won.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
The championship, like if the Arizona Cardinals won a Super Bowl,
when you just be happy for Cardinals fans?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Like what few exist in the world.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
If the Chargers want to sue, I'd say this to
somebody who just did a game in Arizona. I like,
damn game the Titans won this year. Nobody, nobody in
attendance for that. If the Raiders won a Super Bowl,
and I know that the Raiders have been great in
the past, but that past.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Is we're very, very far removed for that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
If the Raiders won the Super Bowl at any time
in the next ten years, I would just feel happy
for Raiders fans because they've suffered. Philly fans are not
They're not a fan base.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
You root for. It's not about that team.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But I guess, like, because I am a Raiders fan,
I look at it and say, Okay, I remember the
first game I went to in Oakland and when you
saw the elevated stands with armed guards looking out over
the tailgate area and all of the armed guards like
National Guard type people walking around, and I remember I was.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I was there and lucky enough to be, you.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Know, escorted by the team when I was there, and
me and my buddies went up to the person that
was helping us and I said, Hey, we want to
go somewhere and have a drink after this, and they
were like, oh God, no, get out of this area
as fast as you can.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That came wrong Oakland. At the time, They're like, you
don't want to be here. This is not safe. I mean,
I hear you on Eagles fan base.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'm never gonna throw I can't throw rocks like I'm
not that Raiders fan. But I'm certainly certainly aware of
the way that you know, Raiders fans were perceived, and
rightfully so. I went to a Steelers game against the
Raiders in the early two thousands when rich In and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Through the ball like thirty straight times. It's a great game.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Raiders kick the snot out of them.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But I was standing in a urinal and the guy
next to me, he was wearing a Raiders jersey, and
I watched the entire Steelers fan base beat the snot
out of the guy, drag him out to the concourse
and leave him there essentially for dead because he was
wearing a Raiders shirt. Guy next to me, as I
was leaving the stadium said, hey, take off all your
Raiders care if you want to make it out here safe.
There are bad fan bases all across the NFL. There
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are fan bases that I think have absurdly lost their
mind on what they what they're supposed to be creating
inside of a stadium, that believed that they could essentially
be criminals just because they're in an NFL game.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Happens all the time. It's happened all the time. I
think it's stupid.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
That being said, I'm not going to root against the
Eagles because their fans are some kind of way when
I think, I'm.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Not saying that either. I'm not rooting against him, No,
but I think that's to understand. If people aren't actively
rooting for Philadelphia as a city, it's just weird too.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Usually, we love, we love the beginning era of dominance.
I don't know, it just feels like we're not there yet.
That being said, I did mention this earlier. We've got
a couple of big games coming up this weekend, one
game that could absolutely decide the future of one of
the divisions in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
We'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
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Speaker 3 (14:57):
For all the conversation about Thanksgiving Day game, a big
Black Friday game, there might not be a bigger game
left on the NFL schedule the one we get Sunday afternoon.
And I can't believe I'm saying this now, because if
you'd have told me in August that the biggest game
of this weekend would be Houston at Indy, I would
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have laughed at you. But now as we sit, boy,
it feels like everybody is trying to find a way
to jump off the Titanic as it sinks for the Colts,
and everybody's finding a way instead to jump on Houston.
And I'm trying to figure out which one of these
teams can separate because Buck Rising Jason Fits hanging out
on Fox Sports Radio. These two teams have plenty left
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in front of them, and there's a very real chance
for the Houston Texans to shock the world and win
their way into a division title.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Book there's a chance, there's a chance.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He doesn't think there's even a chance.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I mean, I'm not against because again, the defense is awesome,
like they are genuinely awesome. But I the wild card
here is CJ. Stroud. We mentioned earlier. If you're just
now joining us, or if you haven't been aware that
c J. Stroud was a full participant in practice today.
He has obviously missed the last three games for the Texans,
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in which they have won all three. They are now
over five hundred. They are looking to continue to build
upon that. They look like they've got some decent momentum.
But at the same time as their momentum comes, are
they going to reassert CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I would assume they would reassert CJ.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Stroud back in the lineup, and that's not a guaranteed
improvement at this point in time. Davis Mills has objectively,
and I know it's a smaller sample size, But Davis
Mills has been objectively the better quarterback for them, or
at least the more efficient quarterback. He's not the more
talented player, obviously, So I believe more in what the
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Colts have to mitigate the bad Daniel Jones moments, because
they haven't been that many of them.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean, I know he.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Collapsed against the Steelers and they almost let the Falcons
beat them in what was that Berlin or Munich where
we playing the Germany games right now? The Germany game
that they played here recently, that they required overtime to
get past a then three win Falcons team, and they've
just recently come off and overtime defeat on the road
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at Kansas City. If you'd have told me, FITZI that,
I mean, you picked the Colts to win the AFC
South this year, you were really the only person I
feel like I heard publicly anyway that buying that much
Colt stock before this season actually began. If you'd have
told me, or if I'd have told you, even if
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you'd picked the Colts to win the division, that they
would go to Kansas City and lose it overtime, you
would have said, yeah, to lose it overtime at Kansas City.
At that point, with not knowing what we know now objectively,
you just said that's a that's a good loss.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's kind of like the Seattle Seahawks losing in a
one score game to the Rams where Sam Darnold threw
four interceptions, but they're still in a one score game.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Just bite turning the ball over that way.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
He said, that's as about good as good of a
loss as a team could take on the season.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Indy just has so much more to work with.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Their defense is an elite the way that Houston's is,
but it's good enough. And how many different ways they
have to beat you on offense and less multiple playmakers
for the Colts get hurt.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I just don't see them.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I don't see teams stopping Jonathan Taylor the way that
the Chiefs sold out to stop Jonathan Taylor this past
week and it being a successful Formula weekend week out,
Tyler Warren, Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, all these other skill
players that they have to beat you with. I think they're,
for lack of a better term, portfolio is diverse enough
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as an offense that they can find ways to get
past the Houston Texans, even though the Houston Texans are
again elite at every level of their defense.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So here's what makes me nervous, because I believe in
the Colts. I believe the Cults are a better team
than the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Today, there are two games remaining on the schedule for
the Colts against the Texans. There are also two games
remaining against the Jags. Remarkably, they still have four games
left to war in Division.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The only other.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Two games on their schedule at Seattle and against San Francisco.
That's a brutal schedule to me for them to have
to face down the path the rest of the season.
Now that being said, I don't know what to make
of the Texans because again, like if you look at
these three wins you mentioned, they've won three straight games
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taking nothing away. The win over Buffalo was a big win.
The week before that, boy, they did not look good
in beating the Tennessee Titans sixteen thirteen. That was not
a pretty football game. You saw that football game. There's
very little about the Texans, particularly offensively, that was impressive
about that. The week before they had the weirdest win
over the Jags in a game that it took just
a massive meltdown by the Jags for them to win.
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So Davis Mills has sent the Texans to three straight wins.
If I want to be pro Texans in this, then
it's easy for me to.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Say, Man, they found a way to win against the Jags.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
They eaked out a tough win in the division against
the Titans, then they beat the Bills. If I don't
want to feel good about the Texans, and I can say, wow,
that's of those three wins, two of them were against
what I think is pretty pathetic competition. I don't think
the Jags are a very good football team this year.
I think they've won some games. There's a difference. I
don't think the Titans are very good at all. So
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I can find both sides of it. It's the remaining
schedule with the Colts that has me nervous, admittedly. And
it's the fact that, as you mentioned, when you commit
everything to shutting down Jonathan Taylor when he rushes for
whatever it was fifty eight yards last week, and then
you put it on Daniel Jones, Man, Daniel Jones has
got to be He's got to be better. He's got
to be better. When it's his game to win, and
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we haven't really had to see him do that that much.
So I think it's the combination of all of these
things that just make me nervous about the Colts moving forward.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, I get that logic. It's the AFC South.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
The four AFC South games remaining on their schedule is
a very bizarre quirk there that I can't imagine Colts
fans are terribly pleased about just looking at Houston's Road
the rest of the way through. They are at Indianapolis
this weekend, then at the Chiefs home, Cardinals home Raiders
at Chargers home Colts to.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
End the regular season.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
So yeah, I mean easier definitely when you have the Cardinals,
Raiders and a banged up Chargers team left on your schedule,
But you're still.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Dealing with.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
A lesser hand if you're the Texans, especially if CJ.
Stroud is going to come back and make this thing
a little more erratic. I just don't I think that
whatever Indy, whatever setbacks Indie might experience the rest of
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the way through, I think that the thing that they've
done that's so important is that they've bought themselves that
margin for error FITZI because I could see them, you know,
leveling out and going what we have six games left,
eight three and three down the stretch, and that's still
being good enough to win the AFC South in its
current state. Jacksonville may push them, Houston may push them,
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but I think that they to get that eight and
three start was so critical, so unexpected, and they did
it against reasonably good competition to where they when they
do hit the toughest stretch of their schedule, which will
be the final month of the regular season, that they
can at least have something to fall back on.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They definitely gave themselves a bigger advantage going into this
portion of the season than I ever could have expected.
And to your point, if they only go five hundred
the rest of the way, they still finished eleven and six.
This right has been absolutely it's it's pretty remarkable to
see what's happened here, and it's changed the way that
we talk about Shane Steiken.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
We need to take a look at this week.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So often we want to give up on coaching quarterback,
but we have a living, eating, breathing example right now
in the NFL of why sometimes you have to let
the context of all of it play out before you
make big decisions, which I think every fan base needs
to hear. We'll talk more about that in a second,
but first, Manzi belongios, get us caught up on what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I know it's late, but there are still games going on.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Yeah, everything's wrapping up as we speak, but it is
a late night in sports, and already Thursday on some
parts of the country. On this Thanksgiving Thursday, guys, there
are three NFL games on the schedule. It all starts
from Detroit Lions hosting the Packers. That's at one pm
Eastern time, then the Chiefs and the Cowboys. Running Back
Isamha Checko is expected to play for Kansas City. He's
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missed the last couple of games with a knee injury.
And it ends in Baltimore as the Ravens will be
hosting the Bengals. That kicks off at a twenty pm
Eastern time, and Joe Burrow is expected to start for Cincinnati.
Other NFL news, Panther safety Trevon Morg's appeal of his
one game suspension for unsportsmanlike conduct was denied, so he's
not gonna miss Sunday's game against the Rams, as well
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as sixty five thousand dollars no pointal. Four time Pro
Bowl Detroit Lions center Frank Ragnow is coming out of retirement.
And when it comes to the NBA, well, the last
game was the Rockets and the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It was fun game.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Houston won at one oh four to one hundred, no KD,
no Kevin Durant, no problem reached. Shepherd dropped thirty one
points for Houston. That's a career high. Steph Curry struggled
from the field and to make it worse, he kind
of took a hit in the fourth quarter. They just
announced that he suffered a right quad contusion. That's Steph Curry.
The Suns had a won twelve to one hundred win
over the Kings. Mark Williams with a double double twenty
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one points and sixteen rebounds. Nicks crushed the Hornets won
twenty nine to one oh one. Jalen Brunson thirty three
points in that one.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
The Heat topped the Bucks.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
One O six to one ozho three, Tyler hero A
twenty nine points and Brandon Ingram hit the game the
game winner as the Raptors defeated the Pacers ninety seven
to ninety five. The Celtics survived one seventeen to to
one fourteen against the Piston, snapping Detroit's thirteen game winning streak.
They were down three to Stroit was down three with
five seconds left and Kate Cunningham was fouled at the three.
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He only made two free throws, he could have tied
the game. It didn't work out. Cunningham ended with forty
two points in the loss. But it is the Thunder
season and everyone else is just here to play for
second place because they are just cruising through the season.
They're eighteen and one, the fifth NBA team in history
to start the season eighteen and one.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Are better.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
They won ten in a row. They outscored the Timberwolves
one thirteen to one oh five. Shay Gildas Alexander dropped
forty points in the win. Anthony Davis by the way
of the Mavericks. He returned to practice on Wednesday. He
could play against the Lakers on Friday. He's missed the
last fourteen games with a strained left calf. When it
comes to baseball, the Blue jayser signing pitcher Dylan Sees
to a seven year two hundred and ten million dollar
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contract pending a physical. In the NHL, the Capital's top
the Jets forty three. Alex Ovechkin scored his nine hundred
and eighth career goal, while the Avalanche of won ten
in a row after shutting out the Shark six zero,
Wild edged the Blackhawks forty three in overtime to extend
their winning streak to six, and the Lightning have won
five in a row after beating the Flames five to one. Guys,
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Happy Thanksgiving, What a pleasure. Enjoy the rest of your
day and weekend. And good luck to cam Hord and
the Titans there buck, oh.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Luck.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I ain't got nothing to do with it, but your sentiments,
I'm sure appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't know how I feel about the factors. You
didn't say good luck to the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
There was no like good luck?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Will what luck is there?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Exactly?
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Exactly?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The Raiders are rough.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
They're rough, They're rough, you know, listen, the Clippers are rough,
like I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I don't know if I need to sage, you know,
put stage to into it dome or like light up
some ca I don't know what I need to do.
Get someone's hair put it on a voodoo doll. But
maybe I'll do it for your raiders too.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Please, that is a great idea. I'm in. I'm in
for this.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I will take whatever whatever voodoo dolls people want to try. Like, look,
I get hey, football gods. Whatever I did that made
you guys angry twenty years ago. I hear you, and
I'm sorry. That's all I could say. Mancy, you are
the best. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Thanksgiving guys, this was fun. That's up my whole day
when we get to talk to Mancy Bologno. She's one
of the best in the world. Uh, he's Buck Rising.
I'm Jason fitz.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
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I mean, it's just an absolute hack. If you missed
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Speaker 2 (27:28):
You can even give a review. Don't hold us against
the boys though.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Again, just search Jason Smith, Mike Carmer wherever you get
your podcast you'll find the full show best of versions
posted right after the show.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. Look. I know we
say this a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
But I just I watched Daniel Jones with Shane Steichen,
and I continue to think about the fact that styles
make fights, right, like you watch cam Ward for the Titans.
That we just said, good look, but I think we
can all identify that the most important thing for the
Titans is that they bring in a head coach next
year that is the right type of head coach to
get the most out of cam Warton, Right, And this
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is what we do. You mentioned earlier, Davis Mills, Right.
We talked a little earlier about Mac Jones.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
There are some veteran quarterbacks in the league that we
give up on this every year. We gave up on
Sam Donald, we gave up on Baker Mayfield. At one point,
we gave up on Geno Smith. Maybe we should again.
But you look at some of these things and you
got to ask yourself how much of it is the
player and how much of it is the system? And
I don't think any of us really know the answer
to it. Buck, It's a nuanced conversation where it's the
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balance of the two together. I just think that for
every fan base that thinks, you know what, we need
a quarterback, Okay, Kayleb Williams doesn't look like Katla Williams
until he starts to get Ben Johnson though, right, Like,
at some point, you don't just need a quarterback. You
need a quarterback and a coach together that speak the
same love language, and they can figure out a way
to make that love language work in a real impalpable way.
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So it's not like the Cardinals aren't sitting here saying, oh,
what we need is a new quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Okay, sure that might be part of it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You might need a new quarterback, yes, I'll acquies to that,
but you also might need the right person to get
the most out of that quarterback, and.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Those guys are harder and harder to find.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So it's just like I think, so often we just
decide that it's the player that's the problem without acknowledging
that so often it's also the ability of the coach
to find the right system for that player.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And it's too much.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Again, I understand why people hyper scrutinize the quarterback position,
but it's just simply no one quarterback, no matter how
great they are, no matter how talented, no matter how
athletic or skilled any of these things, it's not enough
in the ultimate team sport to expect a quarterback to
be that much of a game changer, so over and
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above the importance of every other piece and part that
has to work in concert with the quarterback that to
me FITSI. We just get so long lost in those
kind of conversations that we ignore what actually sets a
quarterback up for success. The dialogue around Caleb Williams prior
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to Ben Johnson being hired, and listen, they made a
mistake in keeping Eberflus, and clearly they didn't believe it
that much in him anyway, for as quickly as they
fired him. I can relate to a similar situation where
the Titan Titans should have fired Bride Callahan after going
three and fourteen last season. They brought him back and
then fired him. What was the Raiders game six weeks
in Week six, I believe is when he lost to
(30:32):
your beloved Las Vegas Raiders, and one of the ugliest
games I've seen at any point in my NFL career,
much less just this NFL season alone. Like the Titans.
For example, cam Ward's the number one overall pick in
this past year's draft. They are tracking very much to
have the number one overall pick in the draft again,
and maybe because they are so bad in consecutive years.
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They have no business being this bad in consecutive years,
but they are, and their schedule is tough and whatever,
like it's going to result in a top draft pick.
If not the number one draft pick, they may get
a situation where, all right, we got the.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Quarterback the first time around.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Now let's trade out of this number one overall draft
pick and let's build out the rest of the roster.
That is one way to do it, I personally, And
I know it's a stupid thing to say because it's
just simply in retrospect and what's done is done. But
I personally wish the Titans, if I was a Titans fan,
would have taken the Giants trade to come up to
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number one overall to build out a better roster, even
if it meant a slightly lesser quarterback situation. I think
that you can make a lot work to your point
with a coach and a quarterback situation that may not
have the highest talent ceiling. But I think that Davis
Mills is a different version of that conversation. I think
Mac Jones is a different version of that conversation. Sam
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Darnold right, there are replacement levels starting quarterbacks that have
the ability, because they are professional athletes, to be above
average at certain points, but if you don't have the
roster around them to support it, then it's all for nought.
So I almost if I was a Titans fan, I
would have some buyers remorse. Even as cam is coming
off a couple of his best performances of the season
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then against quality defenses the Texans and the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
To his credit, he's at least.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Looking like he is stacking performances, even if the wins
aren't coming outright yet because the team is so awful
around him. But at the end of the day, I
think he's been thrust into a tough situation for his
own development, and I think in a better world, I
would have liked to see cam Ward on the Giants
because it would have given him a better chance for success.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
To me, as I said to somebody this week that asked,
are the Raiders going to take a quarterback this offseason
in the draft, probably they probably should, but to me
what I've seen over the last few weeks from their
offensive line, you could put Moses back there, specifically Moses
because he has to part the ridcia, so you'd have
to put somebody back there like that. I just want
to remin everybody that if the playoffs started today, Daniel
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Jones would start a playoff game. If the playoffs started today,
would we would have Baker Mayfield starting a playoff game
he was given up on, we'd have we'd have the
number of retreade quarterbacks here.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Sam Darnold would start a playoff game, right, So.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Just just a reminder that everybody says, oh, got to
go find a quarterback, especially when you start to act
to then acknowledge that you've got to draft a quarterback first.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Overall, Rock Party would be starting a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Did anybody come into the process of Rock Party thinking, Wow,
that guy's the guy for everybody who thinks that the
quarterback is going to fix everything for your team. The
Rams are where they are because they're a great team
that also happens to have a great quarterback. It's it's
no one portion of it, it's all of it combined.
It just takes more time for that to be accomplished.
All right, three your time, It is time for the
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with Mike Harmon. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody hanging out.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
If this is the first.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Time you've ever hung out with us, you can check
check us out. Usually we're hanging out Saturday nights six
to eight pm Eastern. You can check Buck and Eye
hanging out every Saturday night together when Buck feels like
showing up to work.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
That's a fifty to fifty Really.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Excuse you, we've missed the same amount of shows.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I mean, since I'm just saying you would admit that
maybe sometimes, you know, there's just sometimes a buck's got
a lot going on. He's got a lot, Like it's
just what happens when you're Buck rising, you know, it's
just it's it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
If you listen to us on Saturdays, you know that
every show ends the same with the single greatest game
show in the history of sports talk radio.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Book, It is time for.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Word you Rather?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I think it's easy, guys, don't think too hard. Would
you rather? Bucket?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
It's no good? Or face it?
Speaker 8 (35:09):
All?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Lee, come in and give us some questions. We'll figure
out would we rather? This is very simple concept and
we'll go through some What do you got for us? Brother? Well,
it's funny you guys.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
You know last time we all hung out together, I
think we were doing a Halloween edition of would you rather?
So now I have a Thanksgiving Day a little edition
of would you rather?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
For the for the two of you's, how about this?
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Would you rather have to hunt and gather all the
food you are eating for Thanksgiving? Or eat only McDonald's.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Oh, eat only McDonald's. I would die if I had
not my food.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
He's kidding me. I haven't I have.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I haven't had to work harder than a trip to
the farmer's market to get a meal in thirty two
years of life.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Give me the Mickey D's.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
One of my buddies. Just an avid, avid hunter. And
I always used to say so to be clear, you
dressing camo. You sit quietly for hours at a time,
You sit in a tree, stand far away from the
animal with the weapon that they don't have, and drench
yourself in their.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Urine, and you think you won. I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I don't really understand it. Like, so, yeah, I'm in
on the McDonald's. I'll take the McDonald's all day, every day. Well,
I would never be able to hunt for my food either,
Like I would.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Just end up, I'd end up emaciating.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Yeah, turkey's easy game, but they're they're hard to They're
hard to clean and prepare, prepare, So i'd probably go
with the McDonald.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh no, if I got to clean it, i'm definitely out.
I'm way to score. Yeah, that's actually the hardest part.
That's the word.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm out. Guys.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Would you rather sit at the kids table or talk
politics at the adult stable?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I'd rather talk politics at the adults table. And here's why,
because I genuinely don't.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Care about politics.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
So the most important thing that I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna stir everybody use
like it doesn't matter. I am just gonna no matter
what the position is, I will simply take the opposite
just to make sure that I fire up the entire room.
I will create just legendary arguments that will be member
for generations to come at them.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Like remember when Uncle Book hit Uncle Steve, Like, that's
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
And I'm gonna do that all by sitting at the
adult table and just arguing politics.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I would also choose the adults table with politics. But
that's because and it's not because I'm you know, super
motivated to have my political thoughts known or to argue
the point. I just children make me deeply uncomfortable. I
don't know what to say to them. I don't know
how to talk to them. God knows. I don't want
to eat around them or have them eat around me.
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I feel like they're messing.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
No bang, you guys, would you rather miss the orders
and be late to Thanksgiving because you're at the Macy's
Day Parade or something equivalent, Or would you rather leave
early miss dessert because you're getting in line for Black
Friday deals?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh that's easy I'm getting in line for Black Friday deals.
I am all over blackri I love Black Friday shopping.
And let me be clear, I don't need the deals.
I just love the chaos. I'm that guy like I
love the Christmas music.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I'm gonna be out like in a Grench hoodie, be
out doing the whole thing like I want to be
in the chaos of it.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I missed the.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Good old days where people you know violently pushed each
other over to try and get a TV for half price.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Like I want the chaos a Black Friday. I love it.
I like Black Friday better than I like Nanks timming.
So yeah, I'm all in on that.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
That's a dumb thing to say.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I think that the I've done the Macy's Day Parade before.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
And I don't really care that much about the Thanksgiving
food either.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I would be just as satisfied with a dirty water dogs.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I was also in the Macy's Day Parade once. Like
we're saying the same thing right now. I wasn't okay,
go ahead, was it?
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I'm shut?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (38:37):
Would you rather spend us smug a little jerk with
all his albums in the background.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Oh, I was also in the Macy's Day parade. Just
shut the hell up.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh that's the level of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
We haven't.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
We don't have time for nother No, we don't. But
happy Thanksgiving to you guys. Oh, you guys have done
all the hard work.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
We really appreciate everybody at Fox letting us take the
reins for a night, for four glorious hours. Most important,
we appreciate all you guys that took the time to listen, keepstake,
don't move your radio station anywhere, come hang out with
us on a Saturday sometime. Thanks so much for listening
to Buck and Fits. We appreciate you. Have a great
and safe holiday
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Jason Smith
Mike Harmon
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