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November 29, 2025 57 mins

The guys react to the Bears defeating the Eagles to move to 9-3 on the season and break down what this loss could mean for Philadelphia. They also look into the Ole Miss head coach Lane Kiffin job saga, as Kiffin remains unsure about his future, and they weigh in on the beef between him and a reporter. Don’t miss all that and more on The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon! 🎙️🔥

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, sir, you heard the man right sitting in for
Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Carmonal and Jason
Smith and Mike Harmon show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Not those guys tonight. You get the fill in man.
You get the bullpen and I VJ Vernon Hus get
a big sports talking Manella Poppy and then my guess,

(00:20):
my host.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I love this guy.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
We've been filling in together for some reason on Thanksgiving
and Black Friday for the last five years. Is my
good friend, you know him as the stinking genius back
freezing as you know what off back in the Northeast
because it's starting to get cold out there. Is my man,
Arnie Spaniard. Yo, my man, as how you living?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
VJ?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
What's going on? You know if I'm telling you right now?
The Arizona Games. So for the for the next two hours. Oh,
I'm gonna do this goal for two hours. So I'm
already disappointed. We're down seven nothing, but I have that
on the side.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm ready to do this show. So much is going on.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm already disappointed it the saga and the show just started.
I don't like the way he gives the updates. I
hate to go ahead and air dirty launch.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
He's been in the business, no business, he says, Arizona
best in the business.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Let me corrected when he says Arizona State shutting out Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's just the second quarter. Point y'all got, I mean
point y I got. We have no points. But that's
beside the point.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
See to see the thing about the Sager, See he
understands verbage. He didn't say shutout, shutting, which means I
in g present tense and right now you got a
donut on the board, aren't he? And that shit says
what it is. But listen, brother, keep the faith. I'm
not gonna feel like this tomorrow morning. We'll get into
all of that later on, but we do have an
incredible show line of the Sager is here on the updates.

(01:43):
We got my man, Alex Tyson is man. I call
him a technician because he's just everything he does it's
just wild technical. He don't't knowing about sports, but when
he comes into studio nothing, he knows nothing, he cares nothing.
But when it comes to this, when it comes to
the board, when it comes to technical stuff, he's the man.
And then my guy man we are We act like
we argue over everything, but we really only disagree on
one sports topic over the last five years.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
But it feels like we never agree.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
On anything because that's the biggest sports topic in the world.
That's Lebron. My man Big Shay is producing the show man.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Brother? What's up?

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Brother?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I just I do want to just say I was
right about that, but last.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Week I admitted it last night. See, you can't do that.
We didn't say about the air though, you know, no,
that's not real. If it wasn't, you know what, you
just did your front run like he did. Do you
want to hear what we what we were talking about.
This was over the summer when Lebron the Lakers just

(02:38):
finished playing. Obviously it wasn't necessarily the greatest of seasons
and the end wasn't necessarily the greatest eether for them,
and Steve Hartman and VJ. Husky believed that it was
the last time Lebron would be in a Laker jersey.
I got enter right there. No, remember, Steve said that
they were going to bank roll his final year. He
never going to promote it, And I said, what, yeah, okay,

(03:02):
something crazy. I was saying Lebron has played his last
game of the Laker and I was saying, you guys
are insane. What's the point they won't get anything for him?
It made zero sense. He's gonna have an off season
with Luca. Obviously he did his whole Lebron thing and
sat out and we can talk whatever we want to
talk about with that.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
But in the end, my flowers, Yeah, I just thought
what on that point?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I don't think it was too far fetched. I mean,
let's be honest, they were playing well without him. There's
new owners, there's a changing of the guard, there's a
new superstar for the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
But tell me this, what would you get for him? Well,
it's not better without him. Maybe in the money that's.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You know, there's there's all kinds of things you can
do to help the team get get back draft picks
or clear money out.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
And it wasn't so far fetched.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
There was a lot of people talking about that, and
then there was talk about how hurt was he really
was he faked not faking.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
It, But you know, I would could he come back earlier?
I would agree with you guys.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
If Cleveland wasn't in the state they're in right now,
If Cleveland wasn't pushing for what like a like a
win right now, like they're gonna win. They're one of
the better teams in the East, like they've been the better.
The Lakers are one of the better teams out too
without him, That's what I'm saying. The only team that
would give up anything for Lebron right now, I'm sure
is the Caps.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Are we ingrants on this?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
But see if I'm the Lakers, No, maybe Golden State.
I know he was an eye in that for a
while here.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
And let me let me tell you guys, this being
at cover the Lakers, Okay, I was told multiple nights
there at Crypto that they were they were adamantly trying
to shop them. They were trying to figure out, whether
you want to use the word shop, how to get
out of, how to make this clean, how everybody can
look cool because this new ownership group, we just saw
this with the fire of the bus brother Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right, I was just about to say this nobody and.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Jerry gone and Geni right, Nougars major majority owner.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
So this ownership group, for the fans out there that
don't know, is the same ownership group at the Los
Angeles Dodgers raining undisputed.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It back to back.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
World Series is champions who let guys like Jock Peter
you want to leave?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Jock was nice for them, but he wanted more money,
wanted to go what they do. They ran it like
a business. Bye bye, Cody A seeger. They came to
my Rangers and played the second base of shortstop for
us and White. It helped win the World Series. They
told him the same thing, you want to go get
some money, Okay, no problem, By will keep going on
because we're not running this like a Mom and poppin.
We're not falling in love with superstars. We're gonna put

(05:25):
teams on the court that we feel can do what
we want to do. Because all owners make money. But
you know when you make a lot more money when
you win. When you win is when you make a
lot more money as an owner. So I made that
assumption and made that prediction because it just it felt
like they didn't reop him. But they gave Luca the
extension and they gave JJ the JJ extension. Surprised me

(05:48):
that I thought we would wait another year we go
to this VJ.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
If you were Luca quietly in your mind. Of course,
you would never admit this publicly. Would you be hoping
that you traded Lebron yeh? Or that Lebron would come back?
What do you say privately? Play in your own mind,
because in my own mind, I'm like, hey, we're playing great.
I'm taking over. The transition has happened. I love the
new owners. Give me clear up some money. We'll pick

(06:13):
somebody up halfway through the year that will work out
a minimum contract because they just got cut from the team,
and so on and so on.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's what I'm thinking to myself.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
My answer to that is, it depends on what kind
of ego Luca has.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Would you agree share?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
It depends on what kind of ego Luca has, because
Luca may be like, no, I you know, I just
want them back. Da da da da da, or Luca
be like, nah, dog, this is my Like this is
the Lakers. This ain't the mass this is the Lakers.
And they really just completely one hundred percent handed me
the keys, like made me. It's not you no more, homeboy,

(06:48):
it's my team.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Some of the stuff people are pointing now it's low
hanging fruit for me to grab. And you say you've
worked with me long enough. I hate low fringing, low
hanging fruit sports talk, like I want to go really
search for something. But his body language is something I've
always spoken about with Lebron and the little scuffle the
other night, Take what you want to take from it.
But he didn't look like he was trying to help
Luca out or defend Luca at all. And then kind

(07:14):
of his two answers to the two questions about the
floor being slippery, and then Jackson Hayes saying that he
got Luca because Luca got him. Both his responses to
that weren't like, you know, full, I'm all in on
with this. It's cool that lucas the man right now.
So to answer your question, what type of ego does
Luca have? We already know what kind of ego Lebron has,

(07:36):
but if Luca has that same type of ego where No,
I'm twenty five, I'm the man, I'm first team albeit
NBA and this is the Lakers, brother, I'm not sharing this, Listen.
We couldn't watch Kobe and Shaq share the Lakers, right
and they were the three straight, four out of five
and one of three p and they could because it
was the Lakers. It's the show. It's the biggest brand

(07:58):
in basketball the world. And when you hand at this
magic and.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Isaiah, they couldn't. He didn't want Isaiah on the team.
They did what Isaiah the Olympic team? How about that?
I mean, how crazy is that? As good as he
was Jesus?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, yeah, but that that's a that's a whole, that's
a whole another story. But to the point, Shay did
a cash in on that. But I mentioned it in
passing last night during a commercial break, so for say
to jump on in.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
To night, yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
It turned into a discussion that's this is Lebron.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, it's Lebron.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Listen whether you want to. I hear people sometimes going,
oh my god, I'm so tired of talking about Lebron.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Brother. It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Because everybody has an as everybody has an opinion, we're.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Not going to have it for very long. So we're
going to take advantage, right and think about it.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Could you imagine we had radio like this and social
media and podcasts like this when Jordan played, they it
would be this.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Jordan every day.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
What's Jordan doing today?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
What did Jordan today?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Why didn't Jordan's chew his gum a certain way last
night he is he upset with Jerry Krause if you
owed enough to know that story. But great show lined
up tonight, man, Great start right here, man, let's get
right into We have some NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
We have college.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Next hour, Arnie and I are gonna give you guys
our top ten rivalries in all of sports because this
has been a huge topic. Our partner in colleague, Joel Klatt,
was on the show going to get some Iron Bowl
guys and talking about the game, so we'll bring that
also to you too. We're gonna also talk week thirteen
and all the matchups, what happened last night a little
bit also in hour three, and just have a lot

(09:27):
of fun. So kickback, relax where ever you guys are
listening to us on Black Friday. Happy belated Thanksgiving to
you all. God bless you all all your friends and
family out there. But let's ar let's get right into
today's game. Number one NFL is king. It always leads today.
The Chicago Bears, who you and I spoke about last night,
And I guess this is why the sports God set
this up forth the way they did, because they go

(09:48):
into Philly and hold Philly to fifteen points today beating
them twenty five to fifteen. And what Jalen Hurst is fault?
He threw forward two hundred two touchdowns. He threw a pick,
but also Kayla Wims threw a pick, So we're gonna
pick on Jalen Hurts's pick. We have to point out
Kayler wins pick. But the Bears like grown men do.
And we talked about this about the Ohio State Michigan

(10:09):
game last night. We'll touch on a little more of
that as the show goes on. But forty seven carries
for two eighty one on the ground, two guys over
one hundred yards, one thirty one, twenty five for Colin
for DeAndre Swift running against his former team. That's grown
men moving another grown ass men against their wiel and
just shoving the ball down your throat, Your thoughts on

(10:31):
the game today, and what do you think about the Bears.
Are the Bears finally saying hey, guys with for real?
You see our coach with a shirt off, flexing in
the locker room like he's a muscleman from Arkansas. When
they went to the Elite eight back in the day
where you're staying with the Bears. Are the Bears for real?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Now we can no longer say that they've not beaten anybody.
But he just beat Philadelphia. Maybe they've caught in Philadelphia
at the great time. Maybe it was the perfect storm.
That's beside the point. They came back. They played a
great game. They look everything about their nine and three
records that they show right now. You know, I was
kind of doubting them. I have no doubt about them.

(11:06):
Now maybe I should have a little bit because Philadelphia
has put a lot of doubt in my mind after
this game and after what happened to them against Dallas.
But yeah, I mean, look at what Chicago's done to turnaround.
Cam Williams was not great today, by the way. He
made a lot of mistakes, missed a lot of open
guy was about he's about fifty percent completion percentage.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Wouldn't he have it all today?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
If I told you that he was seventeen to thirty
six for one fifty four, you as oh, they got clobbered.
Philadelphia would have crushed them, especially if you threw them
about thirty six times. But defensively, they just did a
great job. There's something wrong with Philadelphia. I just don't
know what it is. Saquon Barkley is playing the worst
football I think I've ever seen, but worst than he
was when he was with the Giants. He can't get

(11:51):
it going. He had thirteen for fifty six, but if
you take away the fifteen, which was his long, he
had twelve for forty. This guy constantly weaken and week out,
except for one week, is put up no numbers at all.
And there I don't even know how the hector eight
and four. But it's eventually it's catching up to them.
That's why you see them dropping games like that. And

(12:13):
that Dallas game is now after effect to what happened here.
If I'm a Philadelphia fan, I'm very worried about what's going.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
On with my Eagles.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
You know, well, I said this yesterday and we were
talking about the Eagles and we were talking about Sakuon Barkley.
Is that I think he's burnt out. Last year was
a lot. You know, you got to think about Saquon's career.
Comes into the league out of Penn, stay right right
and blows up like hits the league like a ton
of breaks. Then he blows the league missus sometime has

(12:41):
to kind of get back to it then comes back.
Remember they go up to Minnesota on the road. This
is year Daniel Jones earned the forty million dollars contract
for throwing fifteen touchdown passes and they beat Kevin O'Connell
and Kirk Cousins and now a Minnesota team, which I
question yesterday Kevin O'Connor, like we were blaming everybody else
in Minnesota but the coach. But just look at the
track history over the last four years. Get into the
contract dispute. Sakwon does with the Giants and becomes a

(13:03):
free agent, and they're caught on the Netflix show saying
just please don't let him go to Philly, like we
can't let him get and that's where he ends up.
So he's got that chip on the shoulder right, and
they're feeding them the ball and they're working off the
touch push and they're working off play action. You got
a receiver one in the receiver one B with Brown
and with Smith and.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
He blows up and it was a lot last year.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I mean a man jumped backwards over a guy who
was the cover of Maden Like it's he had that
type of year where it just feels like it took
a lot out of him, and it gets all the
way to the super Bowl and you win it, like
you get to the Pinnacle man and you hold the Lombardi.
Do you think any of that has played into It's
not a slow start anymore. We're in week thirteen. This
is not a slow start. This is the trend. This

(13:47):
is what you are.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know what, well, last year is what it was.
Let's face it. Though he's still a relatively young guy.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I mean, is great back, but it's not his year though,
that way right.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
But this out of the thirteen weeks, I think eleven
weeks have been like sixty yards or less. I mean,
that's that's more than the small sample size. That's that's
a pretty big size, especially on a team that was
eight and two at the time. They're eight and four now.
I mean, if they were losing, you could say, Okay,
something bad happened, there was a major injury, maybe the

(14:19):
offensive lines breaking down. But no, not at all, man,
not at all. There were a good team and he's
just not putting up big numbers. He's he's really great,
and he's not injured. He's completely healthy. That's the you
know scratch your head about that part.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
You have any questions about their offensive coordinating or play calling,
because I do. I'm not gonna put this on Siriani.
We'll touch a little bit more of him in the
next segment as we talk about more Philly as far
as what's going on there, but the offensive play calling there,
it shows the difference in Ben Johnson and we spoke
about this last night where you have Dan Campbell and
Detroit with the glasses on calling plays and it looked

(14:57):
cool when it was nostalgic. They see an old sky,
old school gritty guy, you know, taking the play calling
and calling the plays. But the offense hasn't looked the same,
at least not for the longevity of a game. They
have these spurts. Word, they'll score, you know, three touchdowns
and four drops, but that's in the fourth quarter. They've
had to score late in the last three games with
him calling plays. But you look at Philly and you know,
seven ten points in the Green Bay game, right, you know,

(15:20):
twenty one to nothing last week, and then you don't
score another point earlier in the year up on I
think it was what nineteen nothing on Denver and blow
that because you can't score. You score like three points
or nothing for the rest of the game. It's starting
to be the trend of the offensive coordinator. Serian says,
you make a move to try to save this year.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You say it's the offensive coordinator, But how many times
does the quarterback get up to the wide of scrimmage
and change the play at least fifty percent of the time,
So you got to put it on him. Also, you
can't just put it on the offensive coordinator. If the
quarterback is going to throw an audible.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
It could I played Devil's advocated, say call it a
right play in a quarterback doesn't have to change the
play about it like this, Okay, great point, no problem,
let's play this game.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'll go with that.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
But then at week thirteen, if your quarterback, let's just
say forty one percent of the time, he's changing the place.
At some point, y'all haven't had to sit down talk
during the week and saying, okay, you're changing the places,
like do you like something else?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
What do you like in this situation?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Obviously that might not be happening. And if that's not happening,
the offensive coordinator as a coach is not doing his job.
So maybe he might need to go and we could
take that blame away from James Hartist. I mean, we
could say that, But you know what, how about times.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
That maybe the defense just exploded through the offensive line,
got your quarterback's face and he had nothing, there was
nothing he could do about it. How about times then
maybe a receiver just dropped the ball. That has happened,
you know that offensive you know it's a combination. Now, Look,
the offense has not been great. I'm not gonna argue
that it was fantastic. Look what they put up today

(16:53):
at home against the Bears defense. They should at least
done a lot better than that. Should have been at
least twenty four of what the Bears put up.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I'm worried.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
If I'm Philadelphia, There's no doubt about that. But who's
going to stuff up other than the Rams in that conference.
I still think they're gonna be okay if they just
straighten things out. I just don't know what they have
to do different right now. VJA twenty fourth ranked offense.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
The Eagles have exactly like it's It can't be just
the quarterback, right, It's got to be a little Barkley's
not running and listen, aj Brown, I guess we can
put all that the rest with the game that he
threw up today. Fourteen targets which means Jalen Hurts touches, yeah,
ten catches, all fourteen targets which Jalen Hurts is looking
for him, and two touchdowns, but they do go down.

(17:38):
Bears do win the game, twenty four to two fifteen.
They move to nine and three and the Eagles fall
to eight and four. Their four losses have come in
back to back game, so they don't they're not losing
consistently or you know, here and there. They have these
blips where they drop back to back games. We'll see
if they can bounce back next week. All right, coming up,
it's Sirianni Tommy from Good Fellas. I'll explain all of

(18:01):
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one sports radio company and network on God's Green Earth.
Arnie Spaniard. Yes, sir is Nick Sirianni. I left you
with this one. I heard you giggle. You like that one,
dani Is Nick Sirianni. Tommy from Goodfellas, Let me explain.
Tommy from Goodfellas was the character that Joe Petchi played right.
It was part of the mob back in the seventies

(19:59):
and eighties. He was wow like he was wold, but
he loved Remember when the club owner joked to Paulie
Cicero that he probably should whack him, and Paully kind
of lift his eyes up at him and he's like,
I'm sorry, Paulie, I'm sorry. I'm just saying this guy,
you know, da hit him in the head when he
tried to get him to pay the pay the tab.
He had a personality where he was loved, he was

(20:19):
liked by people. He's a little quirky, he's a little weird,
but hey, he was successful. Hey Tommy, we need you
to go do this. He did it, Tommy. We need
this truck in his load. He did it. Hey go
with Harry start to overhear bring this money back. He
did it. But sooner or later some of them moves.
Man got Tommy whacked out of nowhere. Remember the first
time you ever saw Good Fellas and that scene happens,
you go, oh, they got him, and then you hear

(20:41):
Harry narrated that was for you know, the Gambino guy
for this, for that, for that, for that. In the
Philadelphia Eagles, our city and the team man that has
done this before. And can we mentioned mister Doug Peterson
who won a Super Bowl for them, Andry Reid got
the one. Doug Peterson won one for them, one one,

(21:02):
and within four years he was just whacked out of
nowhere from behind, like like you didn't see it coming.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
And it's like the.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Eagles fired Duck biling what it just want your super Bowl?
Andy Reid got the five straight NFC championship games and
won Super Bowl and you still kept him for a
significet him out of time. You didn't whack him like that.
It was kind of coming. You could see it with
Andy Reid. But I'm telling you, man, Siriani, he might
be Tommy from Goodfellas, Man, I I well.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
If you saying you want him whacked, I'm not so
sure about that.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
As long as no, I'm not. I'm just I just
think it can happen. Yeah, well I don't think so
right now. I mean, let's see how this year plays out.
But as long as he's winning and ayden Ford is winning,
I think they're number two in the NFC, and he
does have a Super Bowl, He'll be okay. You know,
sure everything is not going off smoothly right now, but
you just can't fire the coach with that type of

(21:54):
record up. Just because they fired Peterson doesn't mean that
that was the right decision.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I mean, look back at some of the other firings.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
We still talk about when the Cowboys, you know, had
some of their firings when Jerry took over. My goodness, man,
they you know, when they fired Tom Landry. People are
still giving him grief over that. But I mean, bottom
line is, you know you're not gonna fire him. He's
a good head coach. Sometimes he doesn't do every decision right,
but what coach does it give me one coach that

(22:21):
does everything right that every time there's a major decision
he's pushing all the right buttons.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
No such thing. They don't exist.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
That's why they get these big payouts, these big buyouts,
and you know, they last for about three to five years,
some a little bit longer, like Pittsburgh Steelers and Tomlin.
And some people think he should be gone. And you know,
because he's about five hundred for a gazillion straight years,
was it seventeen straight years? People are getting a little
fed up with that.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
But no, I'm not. I'm not getting rid of Sarriani.
I like him and I'm going to keep him around.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
I'm gonna respond to that in a second because I
don't think you got where I'm going with it. But
I'll break it down a little more. And I don't
think he's getting fired right now. But first we gotta
go to the best in the business, mister Steve the Sega.
Happy belated Days given and happy Black Fridays. The goodness,
it has been a while.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Good to see you, sir, yeah, and happy holiday to
you both. Good to hear you both say hey howdy.
And we've got the on standby which Arizona team we're
going to be hearing toright, there's the Wildcats, But so
far they've been the Yeah, pretty much. They are getting
shut out with about a minute ago in the first
half at Arisonly.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Twenty of times. Yeah, it's twenty of time.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
But you know they're gonna have to score a point
at some point seven nothing ASU late.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Firstink, they just missed the goal. Doink.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
You know who's really in trouble is Texas A and M.
At Texas the Longhorns have outscored them seventeen to nothing
in the second half to take the lead over third
ranked and undefeated Texas A and M twenty to ten.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
This would be.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Great news for Georgia, which already won today at Georgia
Tech sixteen to nine. Number two Indiana forty nine to three,
leaders at Purdue early in the fourth seventh ranked Old
Miss one at Mississippi State thirty eight nineteen and the
Mississippi coach Lane Kiffin. Yes, we'll decide tomorrow if he's
leaving for LSU or not. Thirteenth rank Utah one at

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Kansas thirty one twenty one with three touchdowns in the
fourth quarter, including a ninety seven yard pick six. As
for the other games, Iowa won easily at Nebraska forty
to sixteen. New Mexico in double overtime beat San Diego State.
Boise stayed with a late touchdown one twenty five, twenty
four at Utah State, North Texas finishes eleven to one

(24:37):
after beating Temple fifty two to twenty five. Oklahoma State's
new coach is Eric Morris, who's leaving North Texas after
the season. A reminder Saturday on Fox TV number one
Ohio State at number fifteen. Michigan College football selection Sunday
is December seventh, which is only a week from Sunday.
Vanderbilt gave coach Clark Lee a new six year contract

(24:58):
in the NFL. Steelers quarterback a And Rogers will return
to play on Sunday with the broken left wrist. The
Bucks say quarterback Baker Mayfield is trending toward playing this
weekend despite a sprain left shoulder. At Philadelphia today, Bears
beat the Eagles twenty four fifteen Kyle Manungai one hundred
and thirty yards rushing and a touchdown. DeAndre Swift one

(25:19):
hundred and twenty five yards rushing at a touchdown. I
love the stat they had on the broadcast the last
time the Chicago Bears had two players top one hundred
yards rushing in the same game eighty five nineteen eighty
five's Great Team Walter Payton and Matt Suey.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Ladies and Gentlemen State Greenland, Yes, been.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Stayed absolutely wow. Among the eleven NBA games. Tonight, Atlanta
beat Cleveland one thirty to one twenty three despite forty
two points from Donovan Mitchell Orlando a winner at Detroit
won twelve one oh nine, thirty seven points for Desmond, Baine,
victories for New York and Philadelphia. Wins for Indiana and Charlotte,
which had lost seven in a row. Men's college hoops

(25:59):
Number four Connecticut at Madison Square Garden beating Number thirteen
Illinois seventy four sixty one.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Back to You Appreciate You the saga vj Vernon Husky and
with Arnie spaying for Jason Smith and his best friend
Mike Harmon on The Jason Smith Show. So let's get
right back to Sirianni because I want to clear something up.
I'm just like he's gonna geta no no no no
no no no no no.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Okay, yeah yeah, but you didn't hear everything in between.
And let the stuff that led up to it.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Also, I have a lot of validity to even asking
this question because they wanted him fired two years ago
after the Super Bowl loss to the Chiefs, because that
year went south and people wanted him fire. Then on air, TV, radio,
people were calling for his job. Then last year they
start two and two. Now they write the ship and
they're going to running win the super Bowl. But early
rumblins last year they wanted him fired. So what I'm

(26:50):
saying is in comparison to my analogy with Tommy the
restaurant guy wanted wanted them act.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Earlier in the movie.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Someone talked about it, someone bought it up, and eventually happened,
and it happened out of nowhere. And that's what I think.
He won't get fired this year. I'll tell you this.
They go on to slide and finish nine to eight
and missed the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
We got some stuff to talk.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Dallas goes on a run that now six five and
one and moves above them, beats already, beat him head
to head, right, beat him again, sweep them. There will
be a lot of conversation this off season about Nick Sirianni.
There always is someone that wants the fired coach that
everyone doesn't like, and Nick Sirianni has just as many
people that stakes He's too quirky, not the adult in

(27:33):
the room, not a good head coach. These are things
I've heard people in our position, our industry say about
the man. But the talk has already started. You let
this year go south, and let's see how this offseason moves.
Say Kwan doesn't get into one thousand yards, you let
that happen after touching two k and had it having
a shot at the record, it could be real ugly.

(27:54):
And I'm just saying it's already been out there. Aren't
he that people have thought to want to fire this
man within the last three years?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
All right, Well, well.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
The show's today, and today he's eight and four. I
can't talk about what he's gonna do with the last
five games. And if he does fall apart the last
five games, it's got to be a real big dive
because it's plays with the.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Raiders of the Commanders twice, so that should be three wins. Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And and they also play the Charger team that's got
some major injuries, so I don't think they're gonna fall apart.
And I don't think Dallas is gonna get you know,
capture him. As for you know, fans and.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Called Dallas Dallas defense is good offense is.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
But as for talk show people and you know calling
in and watting him fired, well they couldness. They don't
make the decisions, I think phil I think if they did,
Mike Tomlin would have been fired a decade ago for
crying out loud. I think he's just fine. And the ramblings,
you know, two games and if somebody's two and two,
that's that's just the Philly fans losing their marvels and

(28:52):
they're crazy out there in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh yeah, we all know that.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
My dad from South Philly. I know how Philly get down.
I know exactly. That's why I think this is a
legitimate talk process to say, hey, this thing goes south.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Like you said, in our business, we do a lot
of hypotheticals, like no one knows a crystal ball, you
know it E did four.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I think he's fine at eight nine, well that's a
whole nother story. But like we said, the shows today
in eight and four, I think he's just fighted, and
Philadelphia's gonna be fighted, especially with that schedule too.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah. Well, one thing I learned about the NFL is
late in the year. He got a lot of guys
who are going to be free agents on bad teams,
and they want to put a lot of good tape
out there, and you get these games where these low
ranked teams. To look, look how the Giants are playing
right now, right like they're at the Patriots Monday night,
and it should be a walk through, it really should.
But I tell you this, Burns, who's up there in
the top two or three in sacks, tib it on

(29:42):
that defense. And the way Jamis has been playing just
out of his mind is you know he's always gonna
make the mistake. You know it's coming. But other pieces
have been stepping up and Giants have been playing competitive,
good football. And we talked about the Patriots last night
where they're ten and two, but they've skated by that
that Cincinnati game. They've had a few other games. They

(30:03):
didn't look great against the Jets on a Thursday night
on national TV. So I want to throw this out.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think Jackson Dark, by the way, is back for
this game. So is Jackson Dart back? I think so?
I think so. I think our past protocol. I think
that was just announced yesterday.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I would I would have had them.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
They're two and tend.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
You don't bring back the franchise.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh no, he's a rookie. He want to They want
to get him as many.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Games, not two and ten, not at two in ten
and already banged up the way he plays the run.
Let me ask you about Philly's defense. Was today justin
anomaly because their defense has been you know, fine, Cooper,
I'm sorry, blanket ship today. Fourteen tackles at the safety position.
You don't want your safety to have fourteen tackles unless
his name is Ed Reed or Troy Polamalo, right, or
Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwood or one of those one of

(30:44):
those old school guys. Man, You don't want your safety
in today's game that, especially when it's not receivers. They've
they're tackled two running backs that's both running for over
one hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Any worry about this defense? Was today just kind of
one of those nights.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
You can't worry about the defense, but just so worried
about the offense.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You just can't do it.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
You know, you can't worry about everything, and I know
maybe you should pay more attention to it. But really,
the offense should be like ninety eight percent of your
worries right now. Defense was okay until the last quarter.
Chicago picked up a couple of touchdowns. They're going to
be just fine. They'll look early in the year, the
defense was not all that strong. They were giving up
a lot of points. Were like, what's going on with

(31:21):
Philadelphia's defense? So no, I'm fully invested on how to
fix the offense. I'm not concerned about what's going on defensively.
If maybe sure you want to make a few tweaks
here and there. I thought they did a pretty good
job for most of the game again in Chicago, you know,
up till that fourth quarter part until then, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm not worried about the defense either. I just wanted
to know where your mind was with it, right and
but but when you get run on like that for
two eighty that that does it doesn't worry me. But
we definitely will be talking about this in film study.
This is not one of those uh oh, we just
throw the film away and just move on. You know,
sometimes you hear that from players that God because the
game so bad, are a portion of game is so bad.

(32:01):
It's like, listen, that's not who we are. We throw
the film boay maybe in a blowout game, but in
a game that was kind of you know, tight down
into the third quarter, third and fourth quarter, but they
could just keep the ball from you pound the ball
to eighty one on the ground. That that's something I
want to talk to my d line and linebackers about
and go, hey, guys, was it did we not prepare you?
Did you see something that we didn't see on film?

(32:22):
Was it something new? Because when you get run on
like that, man, that man, the man that that that's domination.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Other than the other than the Rams, who would you
be afraid of? Who do you think is better than Philadelphia?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Other than the Rams?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Other than the Rams in the entire NFL?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Who would you.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Say in the entire league?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, in the entire other than the Rams, who would
you say, Oh, boy, there it's Philadelphia number two. Even
though of the Patriots or the Broncos or Pittsburgh or
anybody in the AFC. Maybe you'll put Chicago out of
them as they just beat them. But they're better than
Tampa or Seattle or Green Bay or San Franz.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Okay, I would agree because well, number one, I.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Thought you paddicky. You can't be padicky.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
And by the way, their strength to victory for Philadelphia
over five hundred, they easily have the best strength of
victory in the entire NFL.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
No, I'm not in panic mode. I just it's when
you can't run the football and then you get run
on like that today. As a coach myself, that that
that's so we got to talk about that. That's a
discussion that's got to be had because that is them
lining up you know what's coming. Remember two years ago
where Michigan was up at Penn State and they ran
the ball every play in the second half, right, and

(33:36):
just like that, jjbccarthys might have been it might have been,
It might have been with JJ. I'm not sure it
might have been with JJ. But the point I'm making
is like you knew it was coming and you could
do nothing about it. That tears a mental down. That
wears another grown man down knowing you're about to run
his way and there's nothing he can do about it.
He can't swim, he can't handslap, he can't do anything

(33:59):
to run. To me, there is a conversation is what
I'm saying that needs to be had within those beaches.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
In the playoffs. The run, Yeah, you need to run
in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
So you need to be able to stop the run
in the playoffs because defensive running game travels in the NFL.
It doesn't matter where you play. If you can run
the football, you can run. If you can run the football,
you can run it anywhere. Throw it is different because
if it's cold or windy, it affects to throw. Co
did winning never affected a running game in one hundred
years of football.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
No, even if they go ahead and stack the run
and you'll just wear them down. Like you said, it's
gonna be a great playoff this year. I really can't
wait because, like I said, other than maybe the Rams,
who would you put ahead of Philadelphia? And Philadelphia's got
its flaws. There's everybody in the AFC I feel it's
got their flaws.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Well, okay, so to answer your question, listen, I'll agree
with you number one. I'll go back a second. I
picked Philly to repeat at the beginning the year. We
do all our picks here on the sheet here you
know you call in sign, we write everybody's picks down AFC, NFC,
worst Team, MVP, biggest call, wait till.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
The end of the year, and then sneak it in there.
So yeah, but Philly. I picked Philly to repeat, So
I'm not in panic mode. But if I had to
pick a team in the entire NFL, I still just
like the coach offense. I just don't know how much
I touched trust Daniel Jones. You have the Broncos too, right,
and you have the Broncos. I don't know how much
I trust bo Nicks. You have the Patriots. I don't

(35:18):
know how much I trust Jake Do you see Do
you see my pattern here?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Seattle?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't know how much I trust Sam Darnold, like
Philly is the team right now?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Them?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And I would say the Rams and the Packers and
maybe you could throw the lines with the Lions. I
don't think I'm making the playoffs. They're the teams that
have the quarterbacks that trust. I trust Sam, I'll trust
Mett Stafford, I'll trust Jalen Hurts. Why both those guys
did what won the Super Bowl? Like playoff experience I've
seen him do it, not just playoff experience. They got
rings like they got Lombardies, so I'll trust those guys.

(35:52):
And then, man, I like Jordan Love a lot, though
I really really do. He goes in, he wins the
game of Dallas. They're up at San Francisco two years ago,
and he had two interceptions. One was his fault, the
other one goes off the receiver's hands. And that's kind
of been like the story. And there's people that are
kind of halfway in and out on Matt Lafleur as
the head coach there. So to answer your question, and

(36:15):
it's still Philly and the Rams to me, because they
have the two quarterbacks that have the top records in
the league that I trust more than Drake may Bo Nicks,
Caleb Williams, Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold. But you know,
we can put that the rest. Man. We'll touch on
a little bit when we come back. Arnie Spayer vj

(36:35):
Husky sitting in for Jason Smith and his best friend
Mike Harmon. We'll talk more Bears when we come back,
see if the Bears are for reals here already things
on that Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, sir, our two off and running on the Jason
Smith and Mike Harmon Show His Best Friend. But tonight
you get the sixth Man of the Year and another
dude off the bench that can hit the three.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
You get a VJ.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Vernon Husky and Ardney Speyer sitting there for your guys
on a Black Friday. Here coming to you live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. I want to thank everybody
for listening, tune and in wherever you are, however you
are listening to us, whether you're at home, whether you're
sitting on the sofa, whether you're traveling the highways and
byways returning home for Thanksgiving. God bless and be safe,
happy belated things giving to everybody out there. Hope you
had a good time with your friends and your family.

(37:27):
And good fouche real fast man. Before we get into
Lane Kiffin, I come into the studio last night on
the back end of the Yadd couple and they're having
Rod Parker's having a discussion with Money Martin wife's and
Shane and Alex last night about Sweet Potato Pie and
Punkin Pie. Now listen I'm trying to figure out why
this is a thing.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I really am.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'm trying to figure out what who made this a thing?
Because it's not close. It's not close at all. And
and Shaye, last night, man, you surprised me. Brother. I
really really thought that you that you that you had
good taste buzz man, I really thought you knew better.
I'm not sure if he was going for good radio
whatever it is. But ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Let's put this stuck in the past. Let's put let's
put this to the end. Let's put this. Let's put
this the end.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Okay, Pumpkin pie.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
No the same thing. It's no shine back me up here.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Man.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
You know, I don't think I've ever really had sweet
potato pie.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
To be honest with you, of course you have it.
You live in Vermont.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, exactly. I think you have to go down south
to get something like that. I don't think I've really
had that. I'm more of a pumpkin pie thig. And
I don't need I hass.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
A role where you're from. You didn't. Yeah, but guys,
it's sweet potato pie. It's not even clothes. And Alex,
would you say you never see it. What sweet potato
pie is never what?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
It's never left over, thank you, it's never left over.
I know this is true.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
V Jay.

Speaker 9 (38:55):
I put a full pumpkin pie in that hallway.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Oh is that yours? Nobody's touched all right, so.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Check it during the commercial works Shay not just clouds
like Shay goes ja. Did you see the pumpkin pie?
And I said, and did you see? Nobody's touched it?
But all the pizza is gone, all the chips are gone,
all the everything that was stacked to hide here yesterday
for us to eat for the holidays. Like there's a
box of candy out there now because somebody's like, listen,

(39:21):
it's still black Friday.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
You gotta feed the town.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh that's bree okay, milk duds and sour patch kids
are a pile of them is sitting to my left
right now.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Sorry, guys, but sweet potato pie, guys, in pumpkin pie.
It's it's not a comparison. This is a facet This
is made up. This is an infatuation to just battle
ties like apple or cherry. It's not close. It's apples,
Like stop playing with me, blueberry cobbler. Peach, it's peach cobbler.

(39:55):
You can make anything a cobbler, but peach cobbler. It
is never leftover. Sweet potato like that, Yeah, I never pis.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
From the farm up here in Vermont. We get them
from the farm. You get well from the farm, the pies,
pies and all that.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Oh yeah, farmers market the farm. Yeah that's the See,
that's so. But see, y'all ain't sweet potatoes up there.
That's why you don't get sweet potato pie up there.
Like see. I grew up going to my grandmama house
in North Carolina. She had cucumber field, green pepper, blueberries, strawberries,
and sweet potatoes and watermelons. So I grew up picking
that stuff, harvesting it, selling it on the side of
the highway to my grandfather's pickup trup. I grew up

(40:31):
doing these things as a teenager and a young kid
in the South during the summertime. So I ate plenty
that stuff. I had fresh cucumbers all my life. I
can't stand store ball vegetables and some fruits because I
grew eating the fresh stuff. But yeah, the sweet potato
pie and the punkin pie. Alex, I'm so glad you
just admitted you're the person because I was clowning that
she'll tell you. I was like, hold on, I'm sorry, guy,

(40:53):
I thank you, thank you. I'm thankful for the person
that bought the pie in but.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
It was so good. I was leaving. My mom had
a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
She's like, here's some food, here's this, And I saw
two full pumpkin pies in the fridge. Domed this up.
I said, didn't you buy those to take places? She said, yeah, no,
one touched them and bought it and had to bring
them back.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Whenever you go to a potluck and people tell you
you can take what you bought, it wasn't good. It
wasn't good. If you could take what you bought, hey, man,
you want to take the rest of your lasagna, that
means that lasagna was trash.

Speaker 9 (41:25):
Yeah, no, it's fine. But I'm just saying, like, for example, yesterday, right,
the sweet potato pie didn't last the odd.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Couple, right, it was gone. It was gone.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
So wait, I asked this question yesterday for the Odd Couple.
I'm gonna ask it to you guys. Now, what's your
least favorite Thanksgiving dish?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Anything that has the word castle roleau.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I don't like castotato casserole, No, because it's not it's.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Not because you could put anything together. Castle rolla is
like gumbo to black people. You can make anything a gumbo.
You could put anything in gumble, but there's only certain
things that should go in a gumbo and then it's made.
Castlerole to me feels like made up. Normally, there's not
nasty food and that family houses I've eat there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
You're ill eat just about every except maybe maybe the
green bean castro.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
But I even need to see. I've never had one.
I've just seen him, and I've heard people make jokes
about them. I've never in my life been to any
Thanksgiving dinner in my life and someone really brought a
green bean castro. It's just become this joke that people
have said over the last thirty years. But I've never expecien.
Is it good that?

Speaker 9 (42:33):
Have you ever had a good one? Oh me over
that dish. That dish will not be left, I promise you.
I chef it up so good. I should be at
PF changs.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Well you're you're you're vegan, damn here bro so I
can see you loveing something.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I'm saying, yeah, I can see you love it like
you eat. You eat a water You eat.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Stuff out of the watermelon after you cut the watermelon off.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, you use it as a bowl for other things.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, you're that guy made it. Might have some food, man.
Oh boy.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
So speaking of big decisions, as we have to do
when we're deciding whether they're gonna have sweet potato or
a pumpkin pot big decision coming out of Mississippi. As
I told Artie last night, my man Lane Kiffin blew
the doors off of Mississippi State. I told him they
win by two or three touchdowns. This game wasn't gonna
be close. It was not. And now the decision looms

(43:25):
for Lane Kiffin, will he leave or not? I think
you might be right, Arnie, last night you threw out
lsu It. Just the story keeps coming up, lucrative contract.
I would just love him to stiff everybody and say no,
I'm going back to that. I don't know where I'm going,
but I'm leaving Old miss and leave us all in

(43:46):
limbo because he's waiting to talk to the NFL. Job
is what I think he should do.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, you know, first of all, things are getting carried
out away out of line here.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
First, can we just back up?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Did you see what happened after the game today when
Lane Kiffin addressed.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
One of the reporters, We're trying to get the sound.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, we're trying. I'm ahead of you, brother, We're trying
to get.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
This out of sound is honestly, so I'm trying to
like make it a little louder for you.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I don't think you can really hear it. If I was.
That kid just about uh just about fell apart.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
He played it off afterwards, but you could tell that
kid was scared, and he rightfully so he.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Said they should have been. He said something that was
very very in a watch comes out of your mouth, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
And you know, I know everybody tried to one up
each other on radio and podcasts and stuff like that,
so I was okay with Lane addressing him, and he
did it in a pretty respectful way.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Well, the word he used is this that sky code.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
So when you call me that word, you know, like
in some areas of the world, that's a fight. Like seriously,
that's that word that he used. That's a fight.

Speaker 7 (44:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
You can't call another man that whether you're trying to
make some type of analogy, he tried to throw in
the word commitment and say committed.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Then say that word you call me that.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
No no, no, no, no no, that's the See, that's the
problem in the care of you know where you know
how that go. No, you shouldn't go like that. Mike
Tyson was famous for saying social media and protection of
podcasts made it okay for people to say things without
being punched in their mouth for And I'm not I'm
not advocating violence, guys. I'm just telling you what Mike

(45:21):
Tyson said because in a hyperbly way like that's what
That's what used to happen. You you call somebody something,
you say a word to somebody, they may ask you
excuse me, would you say or can you repeat yourself?
Or or who you talking to? Even in this business,
that's just an ugly move for you to do. And
you're right, the younger generations sometime trying to be cool,

(45:41):
trying to be clickbait, trying to go viral, and that
man stepped right to you and pulled your and pulled
your card. But continue, all.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Right, And so I like the way you handled it.

Speaker 9 (45:52):
That.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
That's that's the first thing. Correct.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Two, I think everybody, not only that reporter of that
podcast or whatever it is, is taking things a little
too far. Well, what about his reputation? You know what
about this? He was supposed to say something right after
the game. Are they gonna let him coach in the playoffs?
Is he going to take his whole you know, squad
with him? And that would be horrible if they wouldn't

(46:16):
let him finish what he started. If he's going to leave,
I wouldn't go to LSU. But I'm not the one
making the decision. I wouldn't go to LSU just based
on what I've seen over the last ten years, how
many coaches they fired.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I'm not going to right, they don't treat their coaches good.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I'm not going to LSU after what they just did
to Brian Kelly. And another thing, why would you go
to LSU now? If there's something sentimental? You're from there,
you used to live there, he went to school there
on there's nothing you could do about that. If it's
strictly about winning a championship. You're close to winning a championship.

(46:54):
Now you're gonna go to the playoffs Once you're one
of twelve teams.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Anybody really could win. I know you.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Some teams obviously have a better chance than others, but
I think you have a chance to win. He's beloved
where he is right now, NVJ. Take it from a
guy who knows, because I've taken a lot of jobs
in my life, and I've had a friend of mine
that said, you've always looked for your job. Right after
you've gotten one, and you start looking right away, the

(47:22):
grass is not always greener.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It's good to be wanted, it's.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Good to have people come after you, but you don't
have to take everything. Sometimes it's better to stay where
you are. I think Dwayne Kiffen would be better off
staying in Mississippi, but I don't think he's.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Going to do that. I think he's gonna end up
leaving for LSU.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
And speaking of grass, I'll finish that saying for you, Alex,
you love this one. Your grass is not greener on
the other side. It never is. Your grass is greener
where you water it, right, It's never greener on the
other side.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Never.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Now, if you go there and you.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Like you said, you want to move up, you know
you wrock that up, right, but.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
If you want to go somewhere else and water that
grass better than you watered your own lawn, okay, so
be it. That grass will be greener, but you never
look like right now. I want them to go to
the NFL. We talked about this last night. I want
him in the NFL. I do because I want to
see the competitiveness. I'm a guy in the sports, star,
radio and TV business. I like, I love competitive guys.
That's why I loved Kobe Tiger, Serena, you know, Jimmy Johnson,

(48:24):
Like you know, I like people that just want to
go out and annihilate and prove to the world that
you know, I'm part of the best. I'm one of
the best in the matter, and if I win there,
I am the best. Like I love that about coaches,
about players, just the whole scope of sports. And if
you're Lane Kiffin and you didn't it didn't go well

(48:44):
in the NFL before you failed, but you don't run
from that, and you have the opportunity right now. There
are three jobs that's going to be available. Two are
available right now, and that's the Tennessee Titans in the
New York Giants. Cleveland's going to become available. My all,
my people, everybody I've talked to Miami close, the Dolphins,
and I've been saying this on Harmon and Husky on
the ends On show on Sundays for the last two months.

(49:05):
So this isn't hyperbole. Have told me that McDaniel's fine.
That's why they fired the VP. They fired the GM
like they want. They believe it's more of a front
office issue and bringing in the right type of players
than the coach because the players like the coach, and
every coach that talks about him tells you how great
he is. There's not a coach other than Atrex Ryan
call it a nerd guy and then even apologizing for that,

(49:29):
saying I shouldn't have said that because he's from the
fraternity I'm from, which is coaching. But there's gonna be
NFL jobs available. The Raiders job might be available. I
really do question, are.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
You any more money in the NFL than you do
in God.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Don't, But I don't think it's about money with him.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
What is it that Why would make a better job?
And by the way, you're never gonna be loved in
the NFL like.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
You are in think he cares?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Do you really think LANKI, oh, I think that. No, no, no,
hold up, that's not my question. My question is can
you honest and safely say that he gives off the
type of personality that thinks that being cared for and
cared about. I don't think he gives a damn about
that type of stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
I completely disagree. You know what, who says the best
Dabosweeney from from Clemson? When how many times does he
get all sore and say, well, if you don't want
to be around you know what I.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
Saw.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
But you know what though, Kevin Kevin Durant, you just
can know, but you just may not know it. These
look at look at like Giffen he he he knew
what some podcasters said, who's like twenty five years old
on some podcast that you and I never heard of.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
You know what he said? Right right?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Because because you broke man code like you broke guy
code like we both agree, he handled it and he
should have addressed it. When you call a man of
certain words, I have every I have every ability and
every right to confront you about what you call. If
you want to talk about my coaching, fine, you want
to talk about the way we played, fine, you want
to talk about. Command is fine when you start using

(51:07):
certain terminology to describe a man, A man has one
or two options say nothing or no no no, no, no no.
We're not gonna do that because if I let you
do it, how many other people then come behind and
start using that same word calling me that? Now the
way social media is and the way people like to
be finger warriors on social media, Now, this is what.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
People are calling.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
No no, no, no, no no no. Let's nip this in
the butt right now, because the next person that says it,
you're gonna remember when I walked up to another guy
like gonna remember.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Can't address everybody who says everything VJ Right. That's why
if you're gonna do that, maybe.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Theft that one word no no because no no, because
no reporter listen. I sent an NFL press conferences, I
sent an NBA press conferences, I send in Major League
press conferences, I sent in National Hockey League press conferences.
Nobody on our level would ever call a coach that word.
You won't. You won't hear that, not on that level.
Like you said, this is some podcast or whatever the

(51:59):
case is.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Those podcasters like that talk NFL too this guy.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
But they don't get that. They don't. They don't.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
They don't get that access for postgame and press conferences though.
They don't get that type of access. And I tell
you this, they're not gonna go in there and say
that word. The pro level is a whole different ballgame.
And he just thought that he could just test like Kiffin.
But off of that, more to Lane Kiffin going to
the NFL, and like I said, I don't know if
he's gonna do it. No one knows what he's gonna
do but him. His mind's already made up.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, but what was the reason?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
You why because you want to be at the you
want to be at the highest level in life.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Or is the coach of the Jets higher or more
known than Lane Kiffin?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
You know, Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
That's not accident, that doesn't matter. It's the NFL. It's
the NFL. See, I think you're missing my point of
why I think he should go and why I would
love to see him in the NFL, because once again.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
It's the highest level. Get to the highest level.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
You might be known really well on local or regional radio,
but even if you go to a national show, you
might go Yeah, man, but I'm stuck on the weekends,
or you're on a national level. It doesn't matter what
dam it or on it doesn't matter what time.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I think Notre Dame is more known on a national
level than the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, but the Notre Dame job is not an NFL job.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
It's a college I understand that, and I think that
college job is more known on a national job.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
But that's what you just said.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
No, no, no, no, no, it's about being known that I'm
on the highest level.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Okay that If it's all about just being on the
highest level and all about ego, then I than fine,
And then there's no argument here.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Then that's what you're gonna want to do.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
If it's about your ego and you think you have
to be in the NFL, so be it. You know,
there's there's so many more per perks in college that
you get, especially private jets and the alumni and just
all kinds of stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
I disagree. I think it's a better job. At least
some of the jobs are better in college, and it.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Is in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I don't think there's a college job better than any
NFL jobs. Just simply, Yes, I don't because simply it's
the NFL. Like it's the NFL. Brother, Like that's the
point I'm trying to make. Yes, the team's gonna be bad.
Hell yeah, they're gonna be bad. They need a new coach.
You think good teams are firing coaches. No, the team is.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yagles firing good coaches after winning Super Bowl. Well they did,
all right, So they think about super bowls is gonna
get you fired?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Why the hell would I want to go to the NFL?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Then bro College is gonna get you fired too?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Not, doesn't Sarah, Nick Saban and Alabama?

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yeah, but Nick Saban want what six championships there?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
All right? Lake to get fired though, like Lane.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Kiffin is not. Lane Kiffin is not winning six championships
in any college like that. Those days are over with
nil in Terrance reportal those days are gone.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
That's why Nick.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
That's why Nick tucktail and ran after Michigan sent him
home in a Rose Bowl. That's why he took oil
and he criticized that, I l you don't have total
control anymore. So now it's a lot harder to go
on a run. If get five championship.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
If Lane Kiffin wanted to go to the NFL, he'd
wait to make that decision. He's going to make the
decision now because he wants to stay in college.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
A lot of.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
People have a lot of college coaches really have no
you know, ambition to go to the NFL. They don't
think like you do that it's on some highest level.
I think, God, I think college is just as good,
if not some jobs, better than some of the crap jobs.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
You know what college is is safer than the NFL.
And if you want to do safe, you're never gonna
really grow. And Nick Saban's aren't growing on trees. Like
look at the last twenty national championships.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
What's it? Five coaches, five to six coaches?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Like everyone's not when we just watched James Franklin who
consistently wins ten games, right, winston games sells out. You
just do a big bowl game. You're getting all that
money in.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
How many way the college coaches and.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Have been real successful the first time? Not a lot,
but not a lot of them have the you know what,
so are they all saw what.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
About doing it? Yeah a little bit.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
They just they just loved they loved the position. They're
right because it's easier and freedom too.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
It's more comfortable. It's easier and it's more comfortable. And
I think that's why college coaches. Yes, college coach, Hey,
college coaches that go look quick. Happened with Pete Carroll
peek Caerroll was in the NFL and I think I
would a nine and I believe there was a nine
and seven year with the Patriots somewhere, and then he
had to step with the Genit got fired, went back
to college, went back to college, rebuilt himself.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Won.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Now Lang kid doesn't have the national championship, but but
Pee Carroll went not jemption, went back to the NFL.
I can remember people questioning that and going crazy about that.
And look what he did. He went back better, he
went back more prepared. He went back because it's like, hey,
I failed there, and the competitive side of me, I
gotta go back. And he takes over this Seattle Seahawks
nothing team that was down from home grown. Good stuff, man,

(56:52):
good stuff. Wrapping up start the second hour, man, we
are off and running. We'll talk a little more. Lane Kiffin,
I like, I just like competitive guys. That's just my
whole thing, right there, Man, Arnie, spell your VJ. Husky
sitting in for Jason Smith and his mass friend Mike Harmon.
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