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November 29, 2025 41 mins

Arnie Spanier and Veejay Huskey are in for Jason and Mike on a Black Friday special edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon. The guys dive into the Ole Miss head coach Lane Kiffin job saga, as Kiffin remains unsure about his future, and they react to the heated exchange between him and a reporter. Will Lane Kiffin jump to the NFL, or will he stay in the college ranks? All that and more coming up in Hour 2 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon! 🎙️🔥

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(00:51):
you are listening to us, whether you're at home, whether
you're sitting on the sofa, whether you're traveling the highways
and byways returning home. For Thanksgiving, God bless and be safe,
happy belated things giving to everybody out there. Hope you
had good time with your friends and your family, and
good fouche, real fast man. Before we get into Lane Kiffin.
I come into the studio last night on the back
end of the yadd couple and they're having Rod Parker's
having a discussion with Money Martin wife and Shane and

(01:14):
Alex last night about Sweet Potato Pie and Punkin Pie.
Now listen, I'm trying to figure out why this is
a thing. I really am. I'm trying to figure out
what who made this a thing? Because it's it's not close.
It's it's not close at all. And and Shae last night, Man,

(01:34):
you surprised me, brother. I really really thought that you
that you that you had good taste buzz man, I
really thought you knew better. I'm not sure if he
was going for good radio whatever it is. But ladies
and gentlemen, boys and girls, let's push this stick. Let's
put let's put this to the end. Man, let's put this.
Let's put this to end. Okay, Punkin Pie no, the

(01:56):
same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
It's no shine man, I've ever really had sweet Potato Pie.
To be honest with you, of course you have it.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You live in Vermont.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah, exactly, I think you have to go with down
South to get something like that. I don't think I've
really had that. I'm more of a pumpkin pie thing.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
And I don't need if has a role where you're from,
you didn't, Yeah, but guys, it's sweet potato pie. It's
not even clothes. And Alex, would you say you never
see it? What? Sweet potato pie is never what?

Speaker 5 (02:26):
It's never left over?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Thank you, it's never left over. I know this is true.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Vjy I put a full pumpkin pie in that hallway.
Oh is that yours? Nobody's touched all right?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
So check this during the commercial works, Shay not just
clouds like Shaye goes. VJ.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Did you see the pumpkin pie? And I said, and
did you see? Nobody's touched it? But all the pizza's gone,
all the chips are gone, all the thing everything that
was stacked to hide here yesterday for us to eat
for the holidays. Like there's a box of candy out
there now because somebody's like, listen, it's still black Friday.
You gotta feed the town out breath. Oh that's bree okay.
Milk duds and sour patch kids are a pile of them.

(03:04):
Is sitting to my left right now, thank you. Sorry, guys.
But sweet potato pie, guys, and punkin pie. It's it's
not a comparison. This is a facet. This is made up.
This is an infatuation to just battle ties like apple

(03:24):
or cherry. It's not close. It's apples, like, stop playing
with me. Blueberry cobbler, pea, it's peach cobbler. You can
make anything a cobbler, but peach cobbler.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Is never left over. Sweet potato like that. Yeah, I
never pies from the farm up here in Vermont. We
get them from the farm. You get well from the farm,
the pies, pies and all that.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh yeah, farmers market the farm. Yeah that's the See,
that's so. But see, y'all ain't sweet potatoes up there.
That's why you don't get sweet potato pie up there.
Like see. I grew up going to my grandmama house
in North Carolina. She had cucumber field, green pepper, blueberries, strawberries,
and sweet potatoes and watermelons. So I grew up picking
that stuff, harvesting it, selling it on the side of
the highway to my grandfather's pick up trump. I grew

(04:08):
up doing these things as a teenager and a young
kid in the South during the summertime. So I ate
plenty that stuff. I have fresh qcumbers all my life.
I can't stand store bought vegetables and some fruits because
I grew eating the fresh stuff. But yeah, the sweet
potato pie and the punkin pie, Alex, I'm so glad
you just admitted you were the person because I was
clowning that shy'll tell you. I was like, hold on,

(04:29):
I'm sorry, guy, I thank you, thank you. I'm thankful
for the person that bought the pie in.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
But it was so good. I was leaving my mom
had a bunch of stuff. She's like, here's some food,
here's this, And I saw two full punkin pies in
the fridge. Domed this up. I said, didn't you buy
those to take places? She said, yeah, no, one touched
them and bought and had to bring them back.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Whenever you go to a pot luck and people tell
you you could take what you bought, it wasn't good.
It wasn't good. If you could take what you bought. Hey, man,
you want to take the rest of your lasagna, That
means that lasagna was trash.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, no, it's fine. But I'm just saying that. For example, yesterday, right,
the sweet potato pie didn'tlast the odd couple.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Right, it was gone. It was gone.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
So wait, I asked this question yesterday for the Odd Couple.
I'm gonna ask it to you guys. Now, what's your
least favorite Thanksgiving dish?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Anything that has the word castle roleau. I don't like
castletato casserole, no, because it's not It's not because you
could put anything together. Castrolea is like gumbo to black people.
You can make anything a gumbo. You could put anything
in a gumble, but there's only certain things that should
go in a gumbo and then it's made. Castrole to me,

(05:42):
feels like made up. Normally, there's not nasty food and
that family houses I've either, there's nothing.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Eat just about every except maybe maybe the green bean
castrole but I'll even.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Need to see. I've never had one. I've just seen him,
and I've heard people make jokes about him. I've never
in my life been to any Thanksgiving dinner in my
life and someone really brought a green bean castro It's
just become this joke that people have said over the
last thirty years. But I've never experienced it good that
have you ever had a good one? Oh?

Speaker 5 (06:11):
If you invite me over that dish, that dish will
not be left I promise you. I chef it up
so good. I should be at PF Chains.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well you're you're you're vegan damn here bro. So I
can see you loving something, I'm saying, Yeah, I can
see you love it like you eat You eat a
water You eat stuff out of the watermelon after you
cut the watermelon in half, of course.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, you use it as a bowl for other things.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, you're that guy, some food man.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh boy. So speaking of big decisions, as we have
to do when we're deciding whether they're gonna have sweet
potato or a pumpkin pot big decision coming out of Mississippi.
As I told already last night, my man Lane Kiffin
blew the doors off of Mississippi State. I told him
they win by two or three touchdowns. This game wasn't
gonna be closed. It was not. And now the decision

(07:01):
looms for Lane Kiffin, will he leave or not? I
think you might be right, Arnie. Last night you threw
out lsu It. Just the story keeps coming up, Lucra
to contract. I would just love him to stiff everybody
and say, no, I'm going back to that. I don't
know where I'm going, but I'm leaving old miss and

(07:22):
leave us all in limbo because he's waiting to talk
to the NFL. Job is what I think he should do. Yeah,
you know, first of all, things are getting.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Carried out away out of line here. First, can we
just back up? Did you see what happened after the
game today when Lane Kiffin addressed one of the reporters, We're.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Trying to get the sound. Yeah, we're trying. I'm ahead
of you, brother, We're trying to.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Get this sound sound is, honestly, so I'm trying to
like make it a little louder for you.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't think you can hear it. If I was.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
That kid just about uh just about fell apart. He
played it off afterwards, but you could tell that kid
was scared, and he rightfully.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
So he's should have been.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
He said that the devil was.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Very very watch comes out of your mouth?

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah exactly. And you know, I know everybody tried to
one up each other on radio and podcasts and stuff
like that, So I was okay with Lane addressing him
and he did it in a pretty respectful way.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Well, the word he used is this that sky code.
So when you call me that word, you know, like
in some areas of the world, that's a fight. Like seriously,
that's that word that he used. That's a fight. Man.
You can't call another man that, whether you're trying to
make some type of analogy, and he tried to throw
in the word commitment to say committed. Then say that
word because you call me that. No no, no, no

(08:37):
no no, that's the See, that's the problem in the
era of you know where you know how that goes. No,
he shouldn't go like that. Mike Tyson was famous for
saying social media and protection of podcasts made it okay
for people to say things without being punched in their
mouth for it. And I'm not I'm not advocating violence, guys.
I'm just telling you what Mike Tyson said because in

(08:59):
a high per billy way like that's what that's what
used to happen. You you call somebody something, you say
a word to somebody, they may actually excuse me, would
you say or can you repeat yourself? Or who you
talking to? Even in this business. That's just an ugly
move for you to do. And you're right. The younger
generations some time trying to be cool, trying to be clickbait,

(09:19):
trying to go viral, and that man stepped right to
you and pulled your and pulled your card. But continue,
all right?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
And so I like the way he handled it. That
That's that's the first thing. Correct too. I think everybody,
not only that reporter or that podcast or whatever he is,
is taking things a little too far. Well, what about
his reputation? You know, what about this? He was supposed
to say something right after the game. Are they gonna
let him coach the in the playoffs? Is he gonna

(09:47):
take his whole you know, squad with him. That would
be horrible if they wouldn't let him finish what he started.
If he's going to leave, I wouldn't go to l
s U. But I'm not the one making the decision.
I wouldn't go to LSU just based on what I've
seen over the last ten years, how many coaches they fired.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm not going to lu They don't treat their coaches good.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
I'm not going to LSU after what they just did
to Brian Kelly. And another thing, why would you go
to LSU. Now, if there's something sentimental, you're from there,
you used to live there, he went to school there.
One there's nothing you could do about that. If it's
strictly about winning a championship, you're close to winning a championship. Now,

(10:30):
you're going to go to the playoffs. Once you're one
of twelve teams. Anybody really can win. I know you
some teams obviously have a better chance than others, but
I think you have a chance to win. He's beloved
where he is right now. And VJ. Take it from
a guy who knows, because I've taken a lot of
jobs in my life, and I've had a friend of

(10:52):
mine that said, you've always looked for your job right
after you've gotten one, and you start looking right away.
The grass is not always greener. It's good to be wanted,
it's good to have people come after you, but you
don't have to take everything. Sometimes it's better to stay
where you are. I think GWayne Kiffin would be better

(11:13):
off staying in Mississippi, but I don't think he's gonna
do that. I think he's gonna end up leaving for LSU.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And speaking of grass, I'll finish that saying for you, Alex,
you love this one. Your grass is not greener on
the other side. It never is. Your grass is greener
where you water it, right, It's never greener on the
other side. Never.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Now, if you go there and you water like you said,
you want to move up, you know, right.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
But if you want to go somewhere else and water
that grass better than you watered your own on okay,
so be it. That grass will be greener. But you
never look like right now. I want him to go
to the NFL. We talked about this last night. I
want him in the NFL. I do because I want
to see the competitiveness. I'm a guy in the sports stark,
radio and TV business. I like. I love competitive guys.
That's why I loved Kobe Tiger, Serena, you know, Jimmy Johnson,

(12:00):
Like you know, I like people that just want to
go out and annihilate and prove to the world that
you know, I'm part of the best. I'm one of
the best in the matter, and if I win there,
I am the best. Like I love that about coaches,
about players, just the whole scope of sports. And if
you're Lane Kiffin and you didn't it didn't go well

(12:20):
in the NFL before you failed, but you don't run
from that, and you have the opportunity right now. There
are three jobs that's gonna be available. Two are available
right now, and that's the Tennessee Titans, in the New
York Giants. Cleveland's gonna become available. My all, my all,
my people, everybody. I've talked to Miami close, the Dolphins,
and I've been saying this on Hartman and Husky on
the Ends, on Shaw on Sundays for the last two months,

(12:42):
So this isn't hyperbole. Have told me that McDaniel is fine.
That's why they fired the VP. They fired the GM
like they want. They believe it's more of a front
office issue and bringing in the right type of players
than the coach. Because the players like the coach, and
every coach that talks about them tells you how great
he is. There's not a coach other than at Rex
Ryan call it a nerd guy and then even apologizing

(13:04):
for that, saying I shouldn't have said that because he's
from the fraternity I'm from, which is coaching. But there's
gonna be NFL jobs available. The Raiders job might be available.
I really do question.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
You don't make any more money in the NFL than
you do in God.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't. But I don't think it's about money with him.
What is it that?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Why would make such a better job? And by the way,
you're never gonna be loved in the NFL like you.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Are And don't think he cares? Do you really think?

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh? I think that?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
No, no, no, hold up, that's not my question. My question
is can you honestly and safely say that he gives
off the type of personality that thinks that being cared
for and cared about. I don't think he gives a
damn about that type of stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
I completely disagree. You know what, who says the best
Davosweeney from from Clemson? What how many times does he
get all sore and say, well, if you don't want
to be around and you know what I.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Saw?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
But you know what, though, Kevin, Kevin Durant, you just
don't know it soft, but you just may not know
it these look at look at Lake Giffin. He he
knew what some podcasters said, who's like twenty five years
old on some podcast that you and I never heard of?

Speaker 3 (14:20):
You know what he said right right? Because because you
broke man code like you broke god code. Like we
both agree he handled it and he should have addressed it.
When you call a man of certain words, I have
every I have every ability and every right to confront
you about what you're called. If you want to talk
about my coaching, fine. You want to talk about the
way we played, fine, You want to talk about command

(14:42):
is fine. When you start using certain terminology to describe
a man, a man has one or two options, say
nothing or no no, no, no no. We're not going
to do that because if I let you do it,
how many other people then come behind and start using
that same word calling me that. Now the way social
media is and the way people like to be finger
warriors on on social media, Now, this is what people
are calling. No no, no, no, no, no no. Let's nip this

(15:03):
in the butt right now, because the next person that
says it, you're gonna remember when I walked up to
another guy, like you're gonna remember.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Can't address everybody who says everything VJ.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
That's why if you're gonna do that, maybe the en.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
But that one word no no no, because you know no,
because no reporter, listen, I sent an NFL press conferences.
I sent an NBA press conferences, I send in Major
League press conferences, I sent in National Hockey League press conferences.
Nobody on our level would ever call a coach that word.
You won't. You won't hear that, not on that level.
Like you said, this is some podcast or whatever the

(15:35):
case is.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Right, But those podcasters like that talk NFL too, this guy, but.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
They don't get that. They don't, they don't. They don't
get that access for postgame and press conferences. Though, they
don't get that type of access. And I tell you this,
they're not gonna go in there and say that word.
The pro level is a whole different ballgame. And he
just thought that he could just test like Kiffin. But
off of that, more to Lane Kiffin going to the NFL,
and like I said, I don't know if he's gonna
do it. No one knows what he's gonna do but him.

(16:01):
His mind's already made up.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, but what was the reason you why because you
want to.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Be at that you want to be at the highest
level in life.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Or is the coach of the Jets higher or more
known than Lane Kiffin?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know, Tennessee, that's not accident. That doesn't matter. It's
the NFL. It's the NFL. See, I think you're missing
my point of why I think he should go and
why I would love to see him in the NFL,
because once again, it's the highest level. Get to the
highest level. You might be known really well on local
or regional radio, but even if you go to a
national show, you might go, yeah, man, but I'm stuck

(16:35):
on the weekends or the dude, you're on the national level.
It doesn't matter what dammit or on it doesn't matter
what time.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I think Notre Dame is more known on a national
level than the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, but the Notre Dame job is not an NFL job.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's a college I understand that, and I think that
college job is more known on the national job. But
that's what you just said.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
No, no, no, no, no, it's about being on known
that I'm on the highest level.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Okay, Then if it's all about just being on the
highest level and all about ego, then I then fine,
and then there's no argument here. Then that's what you're
gonna want to do. If it's about your ego and
you think you have to be in the NFL, so
be it. You know, there's there's so many more per
perks in college that you get, especially private jets and

(17:21):
the alumni and just all kinds of stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
No, I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
I disagree. I think it's a better job. At least
some of the jobs are better in college, and it
is in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Now, I don't think there's a college job better than
any NFL jobs. Just simply, yes, I don't, because simply
it's the NFL, like it's the NFL brother Like that's
the point of trying to make Yes, the team's gonna
be bad. Hell, yeah, they're gonna be bad. They need
a new coach. You think good teams of firing coaches. No,

(17:53):
the team is not just Eagles firing. Good coaches have
to winning super Bowl. Well they did, all right, so
they did. About super bowls is gonna get you fired?
Why the hell would I want to go to the NFL? Then, well,
college is gonna get you fired too.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
That doesn't see Nick Saban and Alabama.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, but Nick Saban want what six championships.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
There all right to get fired?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Lane Kiffin is not. Lane Kiffin is not winning six
championships at any college like that. Those days are overweight
Nil and Chrance reportal those days are gone. That's why Nick,
That's why Nick tucktail and ran after Michigan sent him
home in a Rose Bowl. That's why he tucked out,
and he criticized that I l could You don't have
total control anymore. So now it's a lot harder to

(18:35):
go on a run if championship.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
If Lane Kiffin wanted to go to the NFL, he'd
wait to make that decision. He's gonna make the decision
now because he wants to stay in college. A lot
of people have a lot of college coaches really have no,
you know, ambition to go to the NFL. They don't
think like you do that it's on some highest level.
I think that. I think college is just as good,

(18:58):
if not some jobs, better than some of the crap jobs.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
You know. With what college is is safer than the NFL.
And if you want to do safe, you're never gonna
really grow. And Nick Saban's aren't growing on trees. Like
look at the last twenty national championships, what's it five coaches?
Five to six coaches, like everyone's not When we just
watched James Franklin, who consistently wins ten games, right, Winston games,

(19:22):
sells out, gets you do a big Bowl game. You're
getting all that money in.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
How many they stage coaches and have been real successful
the first time? Not a lot, but not a lot
of them have the you know what? So are they
all sawting it?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah a little bit?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
No, No, they just they just love they love the
position they're in, right because it's easier, and they love
the freedom too.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
It's more comfortable. It's easier and it's more comfortable. And
I think that's why college coaches, Yes, college coach, Hey,
college coaches that go lookuick. Happened with Pete Carroll. Pee
Caroll was in the NFL, and I think he would
a nine and believe that there was a nine and
seven year with the Patriots somewhere, and then he had
to stay with the gas. Yeah, got fired, went back
to college, thought up, went back to college, rebuilt himself one.

(20:05):
Now lang Kiin doesn't have the national championship, but but
Peekroll wentational jumps, went back to the NFL. I can
remember people questioning that and going crazy about that. And
look what he did. He went back better, He went
back more prepared. He went back because it's like, hey,
I failed there and the competitive side of me, I
gotta go back, and he takes over the Seattle Seahawks,
nothing team that was down from home grown. Good stuff, man,

(20:29):
good stuff. Wrapping up start the second hour, man, we
are off and running. We'll talk a little more. Lane
Kiffin like, I just like competitive guys. That's just my
whole thing, right there, man. Arnie Spallier VJ Husky sitting
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Speaker 4 (22:09):
As I said before, tell your boys, your boys, boys,
and your boys boys boys. But to wrap up really
quick before we get to it there. Yeah, the best
in the business. I just I would love to see Lane.
I think he's gonna take the LSU job.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Just too many stories are coming out the word lugative
contract would kind of guess go against the thing where
it was about money. But you just don't turn down
a bunch of money in life, Like somebody's gonna offer
you fifty million. You don't go, you don't go. Oh yeah, no,
just just give me thirty one million. It's okay, just.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Because I just say that. There is a report that
Mississippi said they will match any contract that Lane Kiffin
is given.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
And that means if he leaves, it's completely up to him.
I would love to see him just think that's true.
It's not true, right right, Well, if anything, any of
this stuff is true, I would love it.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
I don't know that, but I would.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Love when they can throw a monkey rich and all
of this and pull their plug, pull the the Trump
card and say, my decision is I don't have a
decision yet. Now Ole miss your move. That's my decision,
my decision, and you can't make me make a decision.
I'm grown ass man. I first eleven win season in
the history of your program. I't I ain't got it.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
You're gonna make to make a decision.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
No, I don't listen. No one's gonna make him do anything.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
No, no, no, no, no, he's gonna do.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
What he wants to do. Like I said, it's not
gonna happen, just me liking to upset the apple cart man.
I would tell him, listen, you know what my decision is.
I don't have a decision yet. Now you're it's not
good enough for me. If I'm lsu then I'm like,
well we have to move on. Okay, well then give us.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
If you're not gonna give us an answer like a month, fine,
I gotta move on again. Another coach. Thank you?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Who you're hiring. Who's the next name?

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't know exactly, know that it's utterly Lane Kiffon
or nobody else. Don't J's sutterly. If you're telling me
out of the fifteen openings, it's only Lane Giffen in
college and in the NFL, that's wrong. I just don't
have a of all the other coordinators and people that
would be good coaches. Also, Wayne Kiffin was given a
second chance, and look what he's done with it.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
And when you're the hot to be out there, and
when you're the hot fish, and you don't get the
hot fish when you have them, and you don't get
him guy, Besides, you don't get them. Whoever you get
just knows they were second or third choice. But you
know who's not second or third choice. Our update, guy
man best in the business. Let's see what's going on.
But first, mister Steve the seg or Steve, we know

(24:31):
you got a long list of him.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Brother, have at it hello once again, and boy was
did a great day for the Georgia Bulldogs. They win
Texas A and M has lost. Sixteenth ranked Texas beat
previously undefeated and third ranked Texas A and M twenty
seven seventeen. Fourth ranked Georgia won at number twenty three
Georgia Tech in Atlanta today sixteen to night. George's beating

(24:54):
them eight straight times. Number two Indiana twelve and zero
after winning fifty six to three at Purdue, which oh
to nine in the Big Ten. Seventh ranked Old Miss
a winner at rival Mississippi State thirty eight nineteen Yes,
Mississippi coach Lane Kiffin will decide tomorrow if he's leaving
for LSU or not. Thirteenth ranked Utah ten and two
one at Kansas Today thirty one twenty one with three

(25:16):
touchdowns in the fourth quarter, including a ninety seven yard
pick six, and on Fox TV, a top twenty five
matchup has Arizona now in the leave state there you go.
The game with about six and a half minutes left
in the third quarter has the Wildcats up ten to seven,
So we can go with the actual ground.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
If Arizona Wednesday should be in the playoffs, immediately.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yes, move up from twenty five.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
Sure, immediately past number sixteen Texas Sure, Yes, absolutely wins
for North Texas Iowa. Boise State, New Mexico in double
overtime beat San Diego State Saturday on Fox TV Number one.
Ohio State is at number fifteen. Michigan Vanderbilt gave coach
Clark Lee a new six year contract. Stanf Its new
head coach is Tavita Pritchard, a former quarterback and assistant there.

(26:03):
He is the Washington Commanders quarterbacks coach. Oregon State's new
coach is JaMarcus Sheppard, Alabama's co defensive coordinator. In the
NFL game at Philadelphia today, the Bears beat the Eagles
impressively twenty four to fifteen. Each team was eight and
three going in Jalen Hurts two touchdown passes but two turnovers.
AJ Brown and the lost ten catches one hundred thirty

(26:25):
two yards and two scores, but in the backfield for
the Bears Kyle Manongai one hundred and thirty yards rushing
in a touchdown, DeAndre Swift one hundred twenty five yards
rushing and a touchdown. The Bears move into the two
seed in the NFC, half game behind the Rams Philadelphia
now game and a half out. Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers

(26:46):
will return to play Sunday with the broken left wrist.
The Bucks say quarterback Baker Mayfield is trending toward playing
this way this weekend despite the sprain left shoulder. To
the NBA, we've got eleven games to and Oklahoma City's
one of those games. They're hosting Phoenix seven minutes to go.
Oka See already eighteen and one this year, is leading

(27:08):
the Suns one oh one to ninety four, and in
action in LA halftime, it's Dallas over the Lakers sixty
two to sixty. Luka Donsich does have eighteen points against
his former team in the first half. Austin Reeves with
nineteen points. Lebron James has two points one of four
shooting in the first half. Anthony Davis started and played

(27:30):
fourteen minutes in the first half six points against the Lakers.
He had missed a month's due to injury. Orlando won
at Detroit one twelve, one oh nine, thirty seven points
for Desmond Baine Cleveland a loser at Atlanta, Hawks won
thirty to one twenty three despite the Cavs Donovan Mitchell
scoring forty two points. Wins for New York in Philadelphia.

(27:50):
Wins for Indiana and Charlotte, which had lost seven straight.
In men's college hoops today, number five Connecticut beat thirteenth
ranked Illinois at Madison Square Gardens seventy four to sixty
one one NHL shootout wins for Anaheim, Philadelphia, and Minnesota,
which is one seven straight. Dallas four to three over
Utah a final, and US Women's soccer when it's exhibition

(28:10):
in Orlando three nothing over Italy. They'll play each other
again Monday and Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Back to you. Appreciate you the SEGA as always man,
that's the best guy in the business doing up days
like the SEGA. Don't miss nothing. If I want to
know what happened in sports that day, honestly, and I
need some of some score from a sport. I just
completely forgot about a game. Just listen when the sagas
in the young days, he don't miss h nothing. Man
if he's a bun a husky Arniest Spanier in for

(28:36):
a Jason Smith and Mike Harmon here coming to you
live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Arnie really fast.
I'm up here and I'm reading the X if you
want to reach me at Big Vanilla Funny. You guys
all know Stinky Genis. He's at like seven hundred thousand
followers or something like that. This guy's a monster on here.
But I tell you something, when I hear people go
against things of you know, just what's logic right? And Uh,

(29:04):
I see Uh, I want to make sure I got
this that at Superstar Dad. Uh, I guess he's a
Johnny says, I talk too much. Get playing back in here, Okay,
but he'll be back on one day. I'm just feeling it, Uh,
they said, he does say at Superstar Dad, I get
your premise of I guess you're saying a person should
challenge themselves at the highest level. But with the transfer
port of NILS saying uh saying NFL college Uh, college

(29:26):
jobs are more comfortable and easy just as a true
no see you're you're proving my point, but you want
to make an argument. It is true. You just made
the point with ni L and transfer portal. It does
make it easier in college football to be more comfortable
where you are now because you can reload your teams
because the kids are getting paid. Now, how did Bryce

(29:47):
Underwood end up at Michigan. Guys, they they beat every
other bid or out.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, but but if everybody was paying people. But back
in the old days, nobody was paying it. This isn't
the old relative, but it's all relative.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
So uh so it makes it more comfortable knowing, Arnie,
you don't have to go and grab all the five
stars anymore. It's so, which means you're not on the
recruiting trail as hard anymore. You're not wearing down your
body from city to city to city to city, sleeping
in kids brooms on floors and sleeping bags and all
this stuff any because you know, you can hit the

(30:22):
transfer portal and grab a kid that's not happy where
he is or from a lower school in the power
file or power for bring him to your program, get
him it.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
And there's a lot of people that want people from
the transfer portals. Also there's competition. There's a lot of
there's more competition for those kids than there's for college
senior or high school senior.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
But my point I'm making is it is actually college
is a more comfortable place. You just talked about being
liked in the NFL and all this other college Right now,
the coach entry, the teams are panicking and fire. We
just heard Oregon State's got a new coach. What co
defensive coordinator from Alabama CD These coordinator jobs or these
coordinators excuse me that you were talking about that could

(31:03):
be out there to rival Lane Kiffin right now, they're
getting hired already, they're already going to different places, they're
already feeling these jobs. But in the NFL you are
at the highest level. It is, it's very uncomfortable in
the NFL. You don't have protect in college. And we
all know this college you can hide in the concoon
in your rural little town right and not have to

(31:27):
You can ban people, you can ban people from press conferences,
you can ban people from having access to coaches and players.
You don't have to let freshmen talk to that. There's
total comfortable control in college. In the NFL, there's a GM,
there's a VP, there's an owner, there's a football operations,
and then the media can say and do or come

(31:48):
at you and have access to you on a level
that you could control. In college. College is definitely a
more comfortable coaching situation. Just because in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Doesn't make it a let's her job. I don't not
quite understand what you're saying. Just because something's more comfortable
doesn't mean that it's not work just on a total
of a job in the NFL. And by the way
you're making a case, you're making a case for why
you should go to the NFL, not because it's not comfortable,
but if you're gonna go ahead and get beaten up
and have to deal with crappy owners and deal with

(32:20):
bad situations and deal with stuff that you really can't
take care of, sure, I would.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Rather why it's more challenging. So what's more okay? So
then what's more comfortable?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Colin, I don't know if it's what more challenging or
do I want to be more successful? And let me
tell you that there's a lot more jobs that are
more challenging than ours, doesn't mean that's something i'd want
to go ahead and be And by the way, being
national is not the highest job. Look at WFA N.
I would say that people that are WF an are
probably on the highest level when it comes to being

(32:50):
on a talk show. But there's people that do a
podcast that are on the higher level, more or more
known than us.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
So I miss my point. It's not about being known
that we can. Boy, it's not about being known. I
made that point already, so I'm not going to be
the dead horse. At the same day, it's not about
being known. I'm talking about just on the totem pole
of your profession. Like those people love us on our profession.
There there's but none not on national radio. No, that's
not the point. Yeah, so they're just you didn't. So

(33:19):
there's college coach know you did? There's so there's college coaches, right,
there's college coaches that are more known than some NFL
coaches correct a lot of All. Right, what's the higher
level though, that's the point I'm making, Arnie. A higher level.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
It's on the job. I think, like being the head
coach of Alabama is a higher level than being the
head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
What the character look something like that you might have
a point about Jacksonville, call about.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
You know something like that, just you know something like that.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Let's move over in college man. We just got the
update from the SAGA. Texas now goes on and beats
Texas A and M number three rate team was undefeated
leading to today twenty seven to seventeen. You asked me
last night about Underwood and manny man as numbers a
day fourteen or twenty nine. Not a good day at all,
one saving nine it touchdown, didn't have the interception, So
there's that. But they do why is theer? They get

(34:10):
nineteen carries for him for one to fifty five, no
touchdowns for him. That touchdown went to arch Manning on
the scramble. He had thirty five yards as long as
thirty five yards excuse me, he had a fifty three
yard total yards on seven carries. So your thoughts on
Texas A and them they're guaranteed in European in the
college football player, What do you do with Texas at
this point.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
As into well, right now they have to wait losses.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, so we have to wait to see what shakes
out between so Georgia Alabama, right, does one of those
teams get pushed out if they get blown off the field,
So I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
I think there's you know, too many teams with three
losses that I don't think I would jump them. Georgia's
got one loss, right right right, you know they're they're
gonna go in no matter what. I think that they
don't have anything to worry about, and you know, just
good victory against the Georgia Tech team. They had to
kind of grind that with out. That was a I
watched a lot.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
It was hard to watch. It was really weird. It
was tough to but it was weird to watch, right.
Neither team could really move the ball at all. No,
very strange, and.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
You know they played it. It did well, supposedly neutral site
and all that. So no, I don't I don't.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Think I can even agree with that at all. I
have no idea why that was done.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
It should be out. I always said that, I always
a fight with Chris Plank about that I hate neutral
site games, even though that's not really a neutral site.
Alabama would pick up their third loss, but you know
the fact that they're just Alabama, right, they would be
ahead of all the other three loss teams so I
would say they're still okay. I don't have like the percentages.
But remember they lost to like Florida State, they lost

(35:39):
to Oklahoma, and Oklahoma is not going to be up
against them, so I don't think they'll have any problem
getting in anyway.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, like you said, Bama's a big brand. I mentioned
it last night. I'm all about brand, man, I am.
When you get down to if you're gonna get me
twelve teams, give me the twelve logical. You know, teams
that need to be there. I don't need Boise State,
I don't need SMU, and I'm not trying to knock
those programs, but we saw what happens to both of
those teams last year that had buys right, and but

(36:06):
once they got on the field, we you know, the
cream rises to the cream's gonna rise to the top,
especially in the sport of football. And now that you
have a legitimate playoff with twelve teams, uh, you know,
I just don't see the outsider coming.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
You don't want in the end, what you don't want
in college football is what makes college basketball the best
sporting event we have.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
You know, I hear that about the NCAA tournament. It's
it's lost its luster to me a little bit. It
just really hasn't. I think that's really because college basketball
we talk about transfer portal nil right. These rosters. I'm
a tar hill these rosters. It's a one hundred percent almost,
I like, completely different roster right than it was last year.

(36:49):
And you're finding that in college basketball, and most people
who are big football heads like you and I, they
don't really attach the college basketball until about January February.
But by the second weekend in February, you're going into
the last week of the rivalry games, and then the
conference tournaments start before March Madness hits, so you don't
really get a chance. In my opinion, just my only
person being over the last five or six years, you

(37:11):
can't even tell me starting five from most of the
top teams in the nation. And we used to be
able to do that because kids didn't jump around. I'm
not knocking in io and transferport I love it, but
I do think it's made college basketball kind of lose
a little bit of its March mad.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Really, you could you could make a case the other
way because more kids are staying in college for the
nil money that they're not gonna get because they probably
won't get drafted, so they'll stay that third, fourth, fifth
year in college, get that extra money, and you'll start
to see that a little bit more. You know, the
elite will go, and that's just the way that is.

(37:48):
But you'll see more of the you know, the fourth
and fifth starters stay instead of declaring themselves for the
NBA draft.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, I wish I could agree with that. But if
that was the case, then why aren't we seeing better
rookies and better young players just come into the league.
We have a lot of young players NBA. Yes, yes,
I'm talking about the NBA. These kids are staying. Three.
Where's the third and four year college kid that came
into the NBA over the last five to six years

(38:17):
and just took the world by like he was ready?
Right because he stayed in college All these.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Year of eighteen to nineteen year olds that are the NBA?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right, the last three? Are they ready? Last year's drafts
seemed like Flagg has had like two you know, I
don't want to say, you know, good games, but I
think he had the twenty seven point night. But other
than that, you put on a Dallas game and you know,
Cooper Flapper, there's not a lot.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Of room in the NBA considering of all the international
kids up the previous two drafts.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I just raided from, uh, the G League, not just
over overseas. Remember the G League nineteen keeps putting two
or three kids in the Thompson the Thompson brothers won
that place for the Rockets, won the place for the Pistons. Yeah, Jayalen, Yeah,
Jalen Green, who was the number two pick after k
Cunningham coming from the G League, these G League night
teams and then like you said, overseas Zach Risha Sha

(39:09):
and then you had Victim Winbayama. You you know what
I'm saying, the top picks over the last two of
the last three drafts.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
So right, But that's why I feel like college look
like Arizonta had love.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yukon went back to back. Think about you, Khon went
back to back. Where where's where's one of those kids
from the Yukon team that's making on the team that's
making up seriously making a huge impact in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Caravan is like a fifty year senior. He came back.
I think he could have declared himself for the NBA Draft,
but he wanted to come back and get the NIL money.
So you know, it's stuff like that. Love for Arizona,
University of Arizona, played for four years, finally left. He
wanted to go out last year. He just couldn't do it.
And he's had an unbelievable game just the other day,

(39:54):
I think it was for Portland. He put up more
than twenty points. So you'll start to see it more
with the NI money, You'll.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
See Yeah, well we'll see. Man, there's a lot to
be imagine. It just hasn't been It may be it's
a personal thing, man, it just hasn't been as fun
as it was. Like I said, when you know, kids
were staying at the same school and not moving so
not moving around so much. I don't mind it. I'm
not knock going to I just think that's something that attitude,
all right, Bud It take a quick break. Jason Smith

(40:22):
and The Mike Harmon Show, Arnie Spaying, VJ Husky sitting
in for the gentlemen. We'll be right back Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
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Jason Smith Show with his best friend Mike Harmon. Substitute
is sitting in the Night VJ. Vernon Husky and Arnie
Spaniard coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Now we have some big rivalry games, had something today,
but we got some huge ones tomorrow. Then we already
know some of the conference championship games that will be
set up, and it got me kind of thinking what

(40:58):
to have a little fun tonight. And rivalries have been
a big topic this week and people have been on podcasts.
Our colleague Joe Klatt was on one battling the Iron
Bowl guys against the game. So coming up in the
next hour, quick, two hours, man, two more to go,
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