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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hello, Welcome inside final hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike harw.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What's in the bag for Shark or something?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Before we get into Chris Paul something we talked about
last night on the show. Got to pay it off
here tonight a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, do we have to get into him?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, well well yeah yeah we sort of do.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, yeah, because it's getting late, and this is when
Chris Paul normally gets waived. So this is this is
the Chris Paul getting waved time. Oh gotta get up
in there. Absolutely. Last night on the show, if you
were listening, Alex Tyscher and I made a bet on
the movie Benny.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
In June.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Tysher played the proclaimers I'm Gonna be five hundred miles.
We talked about Havering and uh, he talked about what
a great movie it was, as it was not a
great movie, and he said, Jason, you do not know
this movie. Tyshert wasn't even born when this movie came out,
not even say it was not even just the movie
came out in nineteen ninety three. When were you born?
I was born ninety Oh, okay, all right, so you
(01:29):
were you were? You were not quite three?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, I was almost three? Sorry about that. Three guys.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You weren't even watching Aladdin yet, I was. You weren't
even watching Little Mermaid yet? Maybe two and a half.
Little Mermaid eighty nine, Yeah, you probably were watching Little
Mermaid came out. You weren't watching Lyon King yet. It
was Lion King was ninety four, so I almost was
almost were Yeah again, don't don't never go into a
battle with a Sicilian when death is on light?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Do you know the release date for every kid's movie?
I know that. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, lots of stuff? I know, lots of stuff. Pinocchio,
Pinocchio nineteen forty four, Who heard you? Cinderella nineteen fifty one?
You gotta be impressed. And I'm just saying random years
off of.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it sounds good though, eighteen seventy six,
not fver to nineteen twenty one.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
When did Mickey Mouse die? Mickey Mouse died nineteen thirty seven.
You don't know, but they've they they've kept Mickey Mouse's
head alive in a in cryogenic susan for a long time,
like with Disney. Yeah, exactly, yes, he's he's They'll bring
Mickey Mouse back at some point.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's why we got the whole Oswald the Rabbit here.
There's gonna be some kind of crazy sort.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I can't wait for that show Man. That's gonna be
insane thing.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, eventually, Hey, how Michael's got traded for Oswald the Rabbit.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You knew they were gonna come out.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Look a couple a couple of times that had, you know,
gone to the park. That's the character I seek out
forget about all these other guys. Oswald gets no love,
so I go find him.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Mickey's gonna have Ted Williams swing.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Hey, that'd be something though. The Dodgers could give him
no money and he could come and sign and take
over at dh RO Tommy deferred, Yo, We're gonna defer
all of me Jets's money. Okay, So we made a
bet last night, Tyer, you don't know this movie. And
I was like, oh, we didn't make the bet tyser Tyer,
you should not bet me on movies.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And of course you know I got it right because
I knew it was Benny and June. Also one of
my wife's favorite movies. Really before we met. She loved
that movie. We talked about it last night. She said, Hey,
what's going on for dinner tonight? I think Tysert allegedly
might be buying wings. I don't know because I won
a bet last night on Benny and June. She was, Oh,
my god, I love that movie. When I was twenty three,
that was my favorite movie. Now I realized I saw
(03:31):
it a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh it's not nearly as good as I thought it was.
Is that why you named your dog Benny?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I thought, Betty Zoe honest Zoey named Benny Benny for
Benny and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Benny is Jets, Yo. Everywhere Ben killed the Jets. B
E N N I E.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He's Benny Benny and the Jets. We got Benny and
Bailey with the Benny and Bailey Circus. So we made
the bed and it's one of Pam's favorite movies. She
loved Benny and June great taste. So I won won
the bet, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I mean,
I'm not going to really hold Tygert's feet to the
fire for bier wings tonight. I don't know, but sure enough,
about a half hour ago, what showed up thanks to
Alex ty Shirt was a whole bunch of wings and
(04:08):
French fries and he fed the crew tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You're good for another eight years? Now? Eight years? God?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yet today knowing I can't get home now I have
that gas money. Do you feel good?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I feel I feel I feel bad for you that
you're in your thirties and you don't have enough money
for gas. You have a full time job and you
don't have money for gas. You think that's my fault.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I think that's a youth. Probably.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I think it's because you're taking my raise money with
your best.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I think that's a youth raise money. I think I
think that's a youth.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
You just changed changed the game right there. I raised money.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I don't think you hurt him correctly.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, if he did have gas money, Oh he did
not until he bought the wings.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh okay, I see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, that nobody ate the fries. I mean piles of fries.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So when I said to Pam, I think Alex is buying,
she goes, is he really? I go, I don't know.
I mean, I'm not gonna hold his feet to it.
I mean, you know, I mean I feel you know,
I'm not gonna, you know, make him, make me. She
goes and she says to me, She goes, how old
is he? And I said, I was like, thirty five,
He's not nineteen, starving in college.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He's got a full time job. He could buy wings. Once.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I was like, okay, so whatever wings are left over,
I have to bring those home of parents. I was, well, no, no,
Now she was like, what did you say, Pam or pan?
That's a p Pam panned with a D right, Pam, Pam, Pam, Pam,
Pam pam pan two ms I call it pampong. How
many times can Jim walk over to Pam's desk and
talk to her in the course of a day, panned, So, Pam,
(05:30):
Pam Pam, Pam, Pam.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Pam, Pam. So thank you for the wings. That was
very nice.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
She knows this is radio not TV though, right, what
does that mean? Well, this isn't TV money I'm making.
It's radio money.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, okay, but it's wing money.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's not like, Hey, Tysher bought a whole bunch of
Tomahawk steaks.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Sometimes you might get a better deal on the Tomahawk
states those guys that roll up with trucks in the
parking lots of a malls.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
He bought a.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Fred Flintstone's standing rip. That was a lot of money
dipped over the side of my card.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Deal though. Yeah, but that was right.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I got buying volume. You got eight years now till
you're next us anyways, Yeah, that's good. I mean, maybe
not too long for the next time for pizza, because
we got to cycle through all the different foods that
that harmon I buught. But wings, now you're good for
like eight years.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's okay.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I just can you see me sleeping in the parking
lone just know why.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Wait where are the violins? And the cop comes up
to rouse him, Hey, what happened to you?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I had no gas money because I bought wings.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
And he starts doing a thing like he's got the spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Tie on, Like, what chat you want to hear it?
You've slept here? Yeah, I've slept here. Everybody's yeah, everybody's
doing that.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Really yeah, Well I got pressed by security though. It
was really funny. Yeah, I did not know that didn't
slept in my car. So I pulled it at like
ten at night and the guy just comes sprinting from
the elevator to me. So I stand there. I'm like,
what's up? And he's like, hey, uh, do you see
somebody wearing a black sweater? And I looked down. I
was like no. He's like, okay, uh, what are you
doing here? I was like, I work at Fox Sports.
I'm just trying to sleep before my shift in the morning.
He's like, okay, do you have a badge? I was like, sure,
(07:00):
go get it. I just grab a random badge. It's
not even for here, and I showed him. He's like, okay, okay,
just let me know if you see the guy in
the black sweater.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So he's walking away. I was like, what just happened?
Two things?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Did they find the man in There was no man
who was a mcguffin.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
There was no in a black sweater.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He really shouldn't have said the thing about the the
id because it really made the security and that looks
so great.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
He had long hair, long hair, and he kept yelling,
I'm tired, wires up, you hippie.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Come out of here. It looked like Lord Farkwall. That's
not true. That was last year.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You were torturing the gingerbread man. You're torturing him. He's
married to the nothing man. So thank you for the wings.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
That was awesome.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Now, Chris Paul is no longer a Clipper and he
was led a good run in the middle of the
night last night. In his final year in the NBA,
he goes to the Clippers early in the year. He
wants he wants to end with the Clippers. I mean, okay,
everybody's got their quirks. He wants to end with the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Fine, had some good days, but he wasn't playing a
lot of minutes and he wasn't getting along with ty Lou.
And the reason Lawrence Frank GM gave was that his
voice was too loud. He was complaining a lot and
telling the team the front office, the players what their
job should be. He was trying to hold the players
(08:25):
too accountable. The Clippers didn't like the fact that this
voice was his, that hey, okay, we kind of have
to take care of this. But they didn't want to
deal with that anymore. Chris Paul being the always opinion
rick Buker, we talked to him. He's always been opinionated
his entire career.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Ahead of the PA for a long time, right, and
the Clippers had had enough.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
All Right, you're not playing enough with us. You're not
going to come in here and sabotage whatever we're trying
to accomplish by doing the things that you would have
been allowed to do when you were younger and really
denting the scoreboard and still being one of the top
five players in the NBA. Usually you hear about teams
that will put up with someone's off the field issues
as long as they're performing. It's the same kind of
(09:08):
thing where we'll put up with you and your outspokenness,
even if we think it's to the detriment to the team,
as long as you're playing well. But when you're coming
off the bench and playing six minutes a night, you're
not going to be that guy. So Rick Buker said,
he doesn't know who's gonna pick up Chris Paul. If
somebody wants to sign up for getting this guy who
is really not being able to contribute that much anymore,
(09:30):
and this might be the end for Chris Paul.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
If it is.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You want to look at the legacy of Chris Paul,
and there's many many people are going to talk about,
you know, the trade of the Lakers that didn't go
through for basketball reasons. How great he was. You know,
his nickname was the point God for a long time.
Maybe the last great point guard, true point guard that
we have seen. I mean Jalen Brunson, but like the
last great true point guard that we have seen. All
of these things for Chris Paul. But when I think
of his legacy, I think is something different. I think
(09:56):
of that he's a guy that one of the few
athletes for as long as he's been in the league
now you talking about two decades. He is someone who
did it his way, and that is really admirable, and
that's what a lot of people aspire to. I want
to be able to call it for my career my way.
I want to call all the shots, and I don't
want to have to kowtow to anybody. I don't want
(10:17):
to have to play the good soldier when I have to.
I don't want to have to keep my mouth shut
when I want to say something. Everybody wants to be
able to look in the mirror and say, I'm true
to myself. This is who I am, and Chris Paul
can do that. The flip side of it is it's
not always great because sometimes it goes your way, but
sometimes it's really bad and your career can end in
(10:39):
the middle of the night on a random Wednesday in December,
because this is who you are, right. It's really when
you are someone who is that outspoken that I want
to do things my way, right, I said, many times
it works out for you, true to yourself, look in
the mirror. But that doesn't all always jibe with other people,
(11:01):
and it doesn't always jibe with their vision of a
basketball team, a profession, your family, whatever it is. And
things become difficult for you, not all the time, but
it certainly dotted along your life where boy, this was
more difficult than it could have been because I was
a little too headstrong or I wanted this my way
it happens. And I understand that because that's kind of
how I've been my life, like I want to do stuff.
(11:22):
I want to do stuff my way when it comes
to my career, personal life, everything else. And you know,
for the most part, I'm pretty happy. But there's times where, boy,
this was rougher than it needed to be. This didn't
go my way because of that, And I understand that's
part of it. And the tough part is that's why
I feel bad for Chris Paul is that, yeah, okay,
he's had difficulties, he's had it's happened. But boy, if
(11:44):
this is how it ends for this guy, where you're
cut in the middle of the night on you get
fired on your day off, and and and you and
it's it's the bizarreness of waking up in the morning.
And the first story you seeing a statement from Clippers
GM Lawrence Frank who said, yeah, three am, we sent's
Paul home. He's no longer with the Clippers. We're gonna
help him transition the next part of his career. Like
(12:05):
what the hell happened?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Man?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Like this is how he's gonna go out. But this
is one of those it's it's a risk that you
take when this is how you want to you want
to run your career. And and it's I feel awful
for him that this is how it's likely gonna end it.
For everything he does, it's gonna be remember at the
end when he got cut in the middle of the night,
like man, that was embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Rule of thumb, change is hard, right in any aspect
of your life. You talk about your run. I certainly
have dotted my my personal and professional life with plenty
of those headstrong moments. There's no question about it. Uh,
sometimes he's got to be better kissing the ring. Uh,
you know, get along and and just see the next day.
(12:44):
But the reality for Chris Paul is that's just who
he is all the way till the end. And for
the Clippers, they get a win tonight, But at some
point there was gonna be a fall guy, right, whether
it was you take a long, hard look at Lawrence Frank,
the people in the front office, how they've constructed this
roster Balmer. Forget about the off the court stuff of
(13:05):
the Kawhi Leonard and obfuscation of league salary cap rules.
That's a whole other ball a kettle of fish as
it were. That is just kind of still sitting out
there for people to decide how big a deal it is.
But in the interim, you've watched the guy spend a
lot of money, and that's all we've talked about, the
rich owner that spent a lot of money and built
his own park to go play in. What's it meant?
(13:28):
What's it meant?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Nothing?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Right, You had a couple of years run where it
was good with Chris Paul, some of the other guys
that have passed through. We had the street lights versus
spotlights moment, and on the marquee was Paul George and
Kawhi Leonard, which made it really fun. But all of
that to say that it hasn't gotten you over the top.
So he comes back to wind things down, but he's
(13:51):
not a different guy. He's still Chris Paul, right, and
it's time placed down distance and recognize where you're at
in the pecking order and what you mean and what
you are to the organization as it stands right now,
Tyl Lou's not taking anything from anybody because he's he's
probably in danger of losing his job at this point
right with how poorly they've played the effort, or lack thereof,
(14:12):
on a nightly basis. I mean I heard a little
bit of our colleague Adam Oslin talking about it today
and he was just in shock, right, Moncey's mad. Yeah,
he was despondent, right, because it signals so much else, Right,
what else is under the surface here other than hey,
they piled up a bunch of l's that they would
(14:33):
cut him in Atlanta, not even you know, hey, road
trips over. When we come back home, we'll have a
little press conference in Sanya. Any way, No, you go
home under cover of darkness. Yeah, it couldn't even it
could even end. Well, it couldn't end to the point where, okay,
this is obviously not working. Let's figure out a statement
where we talk about you and wanting to play whatever
you want to say. This is no, we have sent
(14:54):
him home. That's how bad things were. That that's how
the Clippers had to do this right, And so conversations.
There's the reports that he and Lou hadn't talked, that
Lou didn't want to deal with him and talked to him.
James Harden claimed he had no knowledge of things, which
is always kind of funny when you've got your other
star players to go, Hey, I got nothing. It's like no, no, no,
(15:14):
come on now, So whose podcast does he show up?
Show up on to give the dirt at some point
here in short order. But for Chris Paul, I mean decorated.
You go all the way through nine point two assists
per game, sixth all time. He was the seventh highest
active scorer in the NBA over twenty three thousand points
in his career. You go through all these awards and accolades,
(15:37):
the All seventy fifth team and things of that nature,
and the two things he's recognized foremost this end game
and that trade that didn't happen. Exit ou about a
Fresca exit swallowingw You look at Chris Paul's legacy, that
is a complex one.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's tough man.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Coming up next, Chris Paul got way the Clipper said
bye bye. Now trying to go play something play in
the middle of the net. Coming up next. Uh, it's
not about being waved about being cut two x NFL
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
This song doesn't get played anymore. That's weird. It doesn't
get played anymore.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Some reason it's playing.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
It doesn't get played anymore. It was like number three
on your Spotify. What are you talking about? I saw
your list. It's songs I heard the most in the
last year. Yeah, unfortunately, this is there, Jason. We made
we made an agreements, an agreement on this. We were
a new eight year cycle. You just said that no, no, no,
no no. He can roll back to tape, he can
have it read back to you. We made an agreement
(17:32):
that once the new season came out, this song was
never gonna be paid never.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No. No, we made an agreement and.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Now we're on new agreement. No, we're not in new agreement, Jason,
Yes or no? Was that song in the first episode
of the final season?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So no, No, the rule was eight years ago when
the season ended. You told you much I hate this song.
You can play it until the new season comes out.
The season's out, but so now you can't playing any Mike.
Did he not say that there's an eight year cycle
that was just completed. It's true, there we go, not
for this, Well, that's a completely different conversation. Say, I said,
(18:08):
he was, you're good for not buying wings for them for.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Another eight No.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
No, you said you've completed your eight year cycle. Here
we go.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
I did.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Here's the problem because you punctuated that sentence and then
began your elaboration of the food part of it. Now
he's taking it as separate, separate paragraphs in an agreement.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I had a roommate freshman year at college, and when
we first met the first day, I said, Oh, this
is gonna be cool.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
We're gonna get along. Three weeks later, I was like,
I'm going to kill this guy. I'm gonna come imagine
what he said.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
We would we would argue, Oh, he didn't like it either,
because he would argue.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
He really liked himself. He went full mister roper.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He would argue like ty Shirt, except he would argue
like that for real, Like he argued without logic. He
had absolutely no logic. And he would say, and I
would go, that's that makes absolutely no sense. And it
was and and I knew, I, Okay, well we can't
be roommates. And we can't.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
We just can't do it. There's just no way. Were
you able to get through the semester? Did you throw
them out on the street, made.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It through the semester, made it through the semester? You
gave him.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I believe he moved. He moved out after the first semester.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Did you play rock, paper scissors for it? Wrestle for it?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Was one of those things where we knew one of
us had to go, And he was like, I'm thinking
of all because there were three of us in the room,
because we was in a triple.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And my other my other roommate. We got along well
with he the bottle as soon as the third Yeah,
I got it in there. I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's the you know, that's the biggest thing that I
that I can. I can tell you when you apply,
when you imply it, when you apply to colleges, because
there's you know, housing shorts everywhere. You have to make
sure you say you don't want a triple you want
one roommate. Because I didn't say that because I didn't
think I had to. Oh, you didn't say any wanted to.
So you're in a triple. I'm like, I can't share
eight bucks triple threat match if your dominance come on terrible.
(20:03):
So he's like, I think in a move and I'll say, okay, cool, Yeah,
well that's great man, that's odd.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Can I help you? Can I help you?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And and and then then we got along great because
you don't have.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
To live there.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You helped him move. Yeah, I moved down the hall.
He moved like to two doors down.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But that he felt like he was moving to Antarctica.
That was yeah, it was he was moving that far away.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Anyway, back to the original subject matter. I mean, you
did say that it was an eight year cycle complete.
I said, ty shirt is good for buying food, frying
for buying wings for another eight years.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The running up that Hill thing we made that. I
mean that now I feel like, oh, you're.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Not a man of your word, like you're you're you're
now and now like yeah, used to it, you're just
another guy. Just what I can't I can't trust you
because we made the deal and you said yes, one
hundred times, you play the song until the next season
comes out. Then we're never hearing it again. And now
how you played it. You played it every night, you
know you played it. You played it every night of
a holiday song. It's not a holiday song, really, running
(20:59):
up that hill holiday song?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It's not ready. You don't run up hills at holidays.
Not even Rocky runs a holiday.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
No, you don't. Forty nine years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Tonight, by the way, the premiere Jay Soon. When's the
last time you ran up a hill? Oh, I don't
run anymore. A long time ago at a high school
and the dog went out that hill today. Yeah, Now,
if we were playing if we were playing softball, and
maybe like there was the field was a little slanted.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You know, one way or that, a little bit of there,
but yeah, no, no, that technically count as a Hill.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, no, you can't be making fun of Ty Shirt
for not being a man of his word.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Why why, of course I can Why you're not a
man at your word? How am I not? You tell
us all the time the Jets are going to Super Bowl?
They never do. I said it two years ago. That
was two weeks the show. The show tells me that
you play it back like it happened like five minutes ago.
You say it every day. I'm being unfairly edited. You
say we're going to the finals? How many times?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Okay, well, they had some things happened. Was that wasn't
my f Then the Mets they had some things that
the Mets had to things happened. They had had some
things happen.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's all. But maybe we'll go this year. Maybe this
is the thing with the guy in the place.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I mean, if that Jannis thing can come to fruition boy,
look out, man, I'll tell you this. This is the
end of Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. It is absolutely happening
because the world is going that way. We talked about
it going into this season. The pressure for Tomlin to
produce was going to be immense because the sea was
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running the Steelers, and the Steels are being run like
it's a team from the nineteen eighties, where our quarterback
is a get by position and we're not gonna invest
a ton of money in it, and we're gonna just
we're gonna try to build up everywhere else and run
the football a ton and play great defense and win.
It's not a modern era. This is not how you
win in the NFL in twenty twenty five. And you
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would think that Tomlin would have learned his lesson last year. Okay,
we tried to go cheap with Justin Fields and Russell Wilson,
but he wanted to wear Russell Wilson like, hey, look
how right I am, and look how bad it was
at the end. You would have thought, Okay, I want
to stick around. And the Steelers winning super Bowls, they
win with franchise quarterbacks Terry Bradshaw, Ben Roethlisberger. We talked
about this with Jason Cole earlier in the show. You
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would think, Okay, I gotta go out and get somebody. No, no, no,
gonna go cheap again with Aaron Rodgers. So now what's happening.
The team is floundering. They're giving away this lead in
the AFC North, Aaron Rodgers looks terrible, the defense looks bad.
Fans are booing at the games when they play Renegade.
Like Renegade fans, you go after sticks man, come over,
go nuts. When Renegade plays to pump up the defense,
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they were booing it. They were chanting fire. Tomlin right,
the world is going that way. And now more fuel
was added to that fire today by two former Pittsburgh
superstars that, oh, by the way, Tomlin coached during their heyday.
The first was Ben Roethlisberger, who look I and to
and Tomlin never had a great relationship, and Roethlisberger choosing
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now to jump up and down and say, yeah, I
think Mike Tomlin needs to go someplace else. This is
from his Football in podcast where he talks about there
needs to be a change. Wait till he tells you
where he thinks Mike Tomlin should go after this year.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
And I know it's being talked about around here a lot.
Maybe it's time, Maybe it's a cleanhouse time. Maybe it
is Maybe it's time. And I like Coach Tomlin. I
have a lot of respect Coach Tomlin, but maybe it's
best for him too. Maybe maybe a fresh start for
him is what's best, whether that's in the pros, whether
maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what
he would do in Penn State. He'd probably go win
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national championships.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh what a troll that is. Yeah, you gotta go
back to college. That's not a compliment. That's not even
a backhanded compliment. That is just him saying, yeah, maybe
you should go to college and go recruit and go
coach Penn State. Does it also make us recognize that
Roethlisberger doesn't realize there's a greater world out there beyond
the state of Pennsylvania. No, well, well, look he does
the football and podcast for Steelers fans, so he's appealing
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to his audience. So hey, you guys can still keep him.
We just don't want him anymore. That's what he's This
is not Roethlisberger not knowing college football. How This is
him completely just I am going to take my shot
at Mike Tomlin right now by saying go coach Penn State.
I'm completely taking that shot out of it. So that's
exactly what that was, because now, hey, he wants Mike
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Tomlin out, So apparently does James Harrison, superstar linebacker red
the best years of his career under Mike Tomlin, won
the Super Bowl, had a five hundred yard return for
a touchdown to the Super Bowl against the Cardinals, which
he's still running as the longest playing history of the game.
He don't hill, Yeah, he was running up a hill.
It did look like he was running up a hill.
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You're right about that, specially those last twenty yards.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Here is James Harrison from a podcast today talking about
how Tomlin is not really getting the team to play
to their full potential.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
You tell me where there's a good coach on this staff,
because right now I don't see anybody playing to their potential.
Mike Tomlin is in control of hiring coaches, and he
may not be the one coaching the position, but he
is in position to hire the coaches to get the
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potential out of our players, and right now he has
not put coaches in the position that can get the
potential out of what it is that we have. Something
has to be done, Bro, And I know the stillers
historically don't move on from coaches, but I think it's
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time the history be made, because right now the only
history room making is being the worst Pittsburgh's still a
team statistically almost in the history of the organization.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
He's not just blow torching Mike Tomlin. He is grabbing
like seven different frame flowers and putting them all into
one super flamethrower and blow torching Tomlin with this. I mean, really,
this is the worst team in the history tree of
the Steelers. And Tomlin is not as not coaching, well,
he's in He's in front, in charge of the coaches.
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This is These are two of the most decorated players
in Steelers history.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, however you feel about Roethlisberger or Harrison, Uh, you know,
like Harrison had his had his ups and downs on
the field with you know, plays that weren't quote super
cool or super legal. Uh. And Roethlisberger certainly had his
issues off the field and on the field with some
of his teammates. But these are still two of the
biggest players that ever put on that uniform, and they're
the ones saying, Mike Tomlin's gotta go. Guess what, man,
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Mike Tomlin's gonna go. It's gonna happen at the end
of the year, and it will wind up being very amicable. Look,
the Steels will do it the right way. It'll be
the season will end, Tomlin will have some sort of
very very huffy statement, world said, well, I'm more in
this for you in a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I'm not talking about that right now.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Like that, like what Tomlin likes to do, and Uh,
it will be. They will sit down. You will see
all illuminaries there, and it would be a it would
be a decision reached by both parties. We're buying out
Mike Tomlin, whatever monetary uh situation they figure out, and
he will be free to go coach someplace else. He'll
get a job right away because he's still a great coach.
But the Steelers, you can see, the world is moving
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this way and it's not stopping. You can't bring back
Tomlin for another year. After the failures of last year
and this year, the fans are gonna unplug. The team
is gonna unplug. When you have former luminaries talking about
how this guy's gotta go, and fans are booing at
the games, and they're booing songs. They're not even booing play.
When you're booing a song in a game, that's how
fed up you are. The Steelers need change and they
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need to bring in someone who's gonna be much more.
This is what offensive football is like in twenty twenty five.
You need to be able to have a franchise quarterback.
You gotta light up the scoreboard, you gotta do all
these things. You can't have the quarterback be you get
by position and run football like it was in nineteen
eighty three. That's what Tomlin wants to do. You need
a break from that. You got to get back to
the modern era. The biggest thing for me is just
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from an organizational standpoint, all the way down to Tom
Let you decide where he is in the packing order
of all this up. But the Rooney's you know, the
old rule of thumb is if if you're on a field,
it doesn't matter that you're hurt.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You played right, good, bad, and different.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You can have the wacky doctors game operation with a
bunch of red flashing moments all over the place. If
you're on the field, I don't care right you play
how you play. Same thing here, like we talked with
Jason Cole and we're trying to get a bunch of
stuff across, and I talk about Omar Khan, who that
wasn't his role for a long time. I get it,
but he was in the building. Yeah, and then he
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ascends to the GM. I don't care that he's three
years into the job. It's like Scottie Carson in draft Day.
You're the GM, now you're responsible. That was my backup guy, Sonny,
I don't know, you know what I mean. So like,
in terms of how they're choosing the particular groceries, I
can only go after Tomlin so much like nobody in
that power between the owner and him is saying, yeah,
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we probably need to do something else. And look, for
a minute, they rejuvenated the offense with the moon ball
and Russell Wilson, but that was like Pixie Dust, I
mean was gone. It was dissipated. He was a you know,
flash paper A look, I made a magic trick.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And now you've got this Aaron Rodgers where he's tied
for Dylan with Dylan Gabriel for average yards per passage.
That Adam feeling is not changing. That complaxion to the oven.
But I gotta ask you this, We're going to keep
bringing back guys who were good five years ago. That's
how the Steelers are building. Might as well bring back
both both these guys. But with my sarcasm bucket under me,
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do you think that there's a running bet between like Roethlisberger,
Harris and some of the other guys and like Kendrick
Perkins and Acho to see who could say the most
outrageous nonsensical Just wait, Beway, just wait till that happens,
because like, no, that's coming, Like we just just find
out there's little bets on it.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Oh you thought that was bad? Way? Do you see
what I say about our coach? Time now to.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
From someone who is no longer on Lawrence Frank's Christmas
card list, it's Monty.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Straight to jail, wow, jail, straight to jail.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Okay, no, not Pasco, not Pasco.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Do not collect two hundred dollars, not just visiting, not
going visiting.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Don't go to the board walk straight to jail straight
jail wow.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Very demonstrative hand gestures.
Speaker 10 (31:17):
That's all I That's what I can legally see on
the radio, you know, not the other stuff I said.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, I got the real uh, I got the real
uh experience of Monsey's true, true language, how she likes
to talk Jason.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
May Or may not leak that audio later on tonight.
Check it out. And how about a fresco fresco. Oh,
there's a lot of bleeps in that. Yeah, it's an
entirely belief.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
It's redacted like a government document.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
You can hear her say, Chris Paul more shrink and Clippers.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, that's it, though every other word.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Can't sell every other word, No, no, we cannot now.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
Clippers did snap their five game losing streak today with
the one fifteen to ninety two win over the Hawks,
where James Harden had twenty seven points. After the game,
James Harden and Kawhi Leonards said they were shocked, shocked
at the news that they released Chris Paul in the
middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Shocked, they said, just like the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Liars all right.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Jamal Murray drop fifty two by dramattery.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
Draw fifty two points and the Nuggets outscored the Facers
won thirty five to one twenty. Karl Anthony Towns had
a double double thirty five points and eighteen rebounds as
the Knicks crushed the Hornets won nineteen to one oh four.
The Mavericks had seven players in double digits, including all
of their starters. Cooper Flagg had twenty two points. They
defeated the heat onon eighteen to one oh eight. Josh
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Giddy had a triple double, but it wasn't enough. The
Bulls lost one thirteen to one oh three to the Mets.
Chicago has lost five in a row. The Rockets rolled
past the Kings one twenty one to ninety five, and
the Blazer has defeated the Cavaliers in Cleveland one twenty
two to one ten. Buckstar Jiannisante Tookoopo suffered a non
contact injury in the first quarter against the Pistons.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
He was ruled out for the remainder of the game
with a right CAF strain.
Speaker 10 (33:01):
Despite that and being down eighteen points, Milwaukee came back
to defeat Detroit one thirteen to one oh nine.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Apparently he's gonna go to the next Gen i'm an
MRI to determine the extent of the injury. Other NBA news,
Lakers will be without Luka Doncic for Thursday's game against
the Raptors due to personal reasons, and SunStar Devin Brooker
is gonna miss at least a week with a growing strain.
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Thursday Night football is gonna kick off Week fourteen of
the NFL Lions and Cowboys. Wide receiver i'min Ross Saint
Brown questionable for that game. Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert, who
just had surgery, had to play multiple screws put in
his fractured left hand, while the plan is for him
to play on Monday Night against the Eagles. The Ravens
and tight end Mike Mark Andrews excuse me to sign
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a three year extension, and the Buccaneers opened the twenty
one day practice window for wide receiver Mike Evans, who
did practice today.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
In the NHL, the Capitals have won six in a row.
They crushed the Sharks seven to one, and Alex Soovechkins
scored two goals in the win.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
So he's up to nine hundred and eleven. I believe
career goals at this point.
Speaker 10 (34:07):
And the Stars, the Stars shout out the Devil's three zero.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
All right, Oh, oh, oh, Dodgers.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Are bringing back World Series hero Miguel Rojas five and
a half.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
We'll give you five and a half million dollars to play. Oh,
I'll play one more.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Year, he said.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Wanted one more, he said, he wanted one more for.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Five point five. Yeah, let's go. I can't wait for
that Miguel Rojas bobblehead next year. Well, he released at
three o'clock in the morning, mids.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I mean, they probably could have given him a little lesson.
He would have taken it.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Five point five, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It was a big home run though, so that he
comes up a.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Lot in conversations I have with people around the you know,
start asking about sports stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It's like they love that guy.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
He's a good guy. Yeah, everybody he's loved and he
has had big moments. The hit, the home to the
throw to home plate where he was looking at Will
Smith like he was going to kill him.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, if he slowed that.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
Down because he remembered he like roubbled for like a
hot second and then through his eyes were like, I
am going to.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Kill you if you don't catch this ball. And that's
how I feel about Lawrence Frank Back to you.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Thank you, Monsie.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Coming up next, we get back into the biggest breaking
basketball story. Then I'd give you our picks for Thursday
Night Football. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Fox, be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
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