December 9, 2025 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the Notre Dame outrage after they were left out of the college football playoff. Audacy NFL Insider Jason LaCanfora reacts to the biggest headlines from week 14 including Philip Rivers coming out of retirement, Shedeur retaining his starting job, Chiefs downfall, controversial officiating and more! And Jason knows how to fix the Eagle after their OT loss to the Chargers on MNF.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Fourth quarter, we have a tie game in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
After he yet another turnover.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is the thirty sixth turnover of the game tonight,
the Chargers tie it up with the Eagles sixteen a piece.
Cabern Dickers field goal gives us an even game. Now
midway through the fourth quarter, charters getting the football back again.
We'll have more on this game coming up in a
few minutes. But hey, it's been sloppy. The quarterback's begetting hit.
(00:59):
There've been a lot of tip balls interceptions. But it's
close on a Monday night.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's it. That's it. That's holiday season here for everybody.
Tie game, final six minutes, it's an absolute gift to
us Justin Herbert six sacks, Jalen Hirts with more interceptions
tonight than he had all season combined coming into this game.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Uh, there has been I would say, overall before you
get back into the college world playoffs and overall last
week regular season, in fantasy playoffs, anybody who started outside
of Barkley or maybe a little bit of a mari
and Hampton, right, because he does have the touchdown, and
(01:40):
there's lots of guys that got started this week in
fantasy on both of these teams. You are unbleep and
happy with what you've seen so far tonight because nobody
is having a big night. Everybody's got guys going Tonight's
gonna lose. Everybody's gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, unless you had Barkley might have gotten into survival
or the kickers. Yeah, Okay, be one of the biggest
scores of the week, So you know, take that for it.
He was it worth what twenty five twenty six points
in most leagues sell.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Again, we'll have more in this game coming up in
a few minutes, but the reaction to the college football
playoff the last twenty four hours has been all over
the map, and you've heard all the different arguments. You've
heard everything, so what we like to do is to
give you something new. Yes, Notre Dame has left out
Why Notre Dame Miami weren't flipped before this week?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Stunning?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Why teams like James Madison and Tulane get in stunning?
You can't tell me you have the best twelve teams.
It is a really faulty process. And and everything was
laid bare with the unveiling of the college football Playoff
a day ago. And the first thing I want to
say is this is that this was inevitable and predictable
(03:00):
cause college football has no rules. They have no rules.
There's no one running the ship. There's not even someone
who I can say is corrupt and they're taking money. No,
there's no one running college football. It's the conferences are
out for themselves, the big teams out for themselves. College
football has no rules. It's how we got to the
nil era, It's how we got to the transfer era.
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It's why we are where we are. There are no
rules in college football. So if there's no rules, how
do you expect the playoff to go any different than
it did? That looks like an absolute mess, and people
trying to defend picks and positions, and why a team
moved ahead of another team when neither of them played
last week. Of course there was going to be this messy.
Of course it's gonna be like this because when you
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have no rules, this is how it goes. So this
should have been absolutely predictable. And anybody who thought it
wasn't gonna be this way, well, you guys haven't been
paying attention.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, so long as you have a system in place,
and look a lot more vocal proponents of get it
back to the computers, Like you all hated the computers,
But I like the computers. But you know, I joke before,
I love I like the high exactly. The mean girl's reference.
Or when you're going for, say a nomination at any
level of government, even down to your local school board,
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to prop yourself up by by way of comparison, you're
tearing other people down. In this case, you've got folks
that have their vested interest in their conference, in their
schools to go in and lobby as hard as they can.
Why because they get more of the gold, they get
more of the control, and that's what you have in there.
You've got very few actual football people it's people that
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are speaking on behalf of teams and doing stump speeches
like they're at the foot of you know, the of Congress.
I mean, that's where we're at. So so long as
that is the system, it's going to be flawed. It
becomes the hey, i'll convintion to my side, what are
the numbers, doesn't matter. Like the Notre Dame Miami thing
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was the all right, we'll wait until we actually have
to use this head to head and side by side.
That's what they said. After the fact. We never him
side by side. You're glad. We don't believe you. But
you didn't activate it because you didn't need to, because
it made for a better TV show. Because every year,
every week, as Notre Dame got better and better, towards
the end of the season, it became a aren't they
the better team? Because I think I were eight or
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nine to one before the playoff bracket got released and
by the way, there was actually a leak from fan
duel oh yeah, before it came out, and it had
Notre Dame in that ten slot, and then all of
a sudden, like whoa wait, wait, you mean oh you
mean division? You mean conference champions?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh wait, delete, delete, delete delete. You know you know
how I feel about this, and I feel weird about this.
But do you ever have have a friend who you're
really good friends with, but one thing they're not They
don't do the right they don't act the right way.
For like, maybe they're in a relationship with somebody, they
don't treat that person right. And you're like, you know,
we're friends. I know you're a good guy. You got
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you gotta you gotta get you, gotta treat the other
person better. Yeah, and then something embarrassing happens and your
friend gets embarrassed and you feel bad for them, but
at the same time, you're like, good, I hope you
learned your bleeping lesson. That's kind of how I feel
right now about college football. I love God, of course
college football. Of course, how much we talk about how
much I love college football my whole life. But right
now I'm like, good, I'm glad you own this absolute
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tire fire of a playoff of what it is.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Good.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I good. I feel like a good I told you
so kind of way. I want.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know, we were friends, we're really close, and I
love you, But man, I'm glad you're getting your come
up ands right now, because you need come up and because.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
This is stupid. But the funny thing and all of
this is that as soon as Bovaka was on with
Dan Patrick, it was no longer Alabama slipped out the
back door about Alabama anymore. Hey, you guys paying, Rob's
gonna leave. They got in and for about I don't know,
three or four hours, there's a big deal and then
no bowl game, and you started seeing some of the
missives back and forth, and eventually you get Vakua on
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with Dan Patrick this morning. He's like, that's it, Alabama's
entry into all this. Nobody cares about why did you
string us along with having us flipped with Miami this
whole time? Why did you do this and all of
these decisions along the way. But yeah, I mean you
make all these decisions as a school, right Notre Dame.
They've got to live. And it's it's pretty nice when
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you've got this NBC deal and and the schedule, and
I know it's made years in advance, and and you
have an EBB and flow as to who's good, bad
coaches leaving administrators, leaving all of that stuff that you
don't know years in advance. I understand that the fluidity
of all of that, but it's still to the point
of we want benefits on some parts of being in
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the conference. But then you need to genuflec Now you
need to genuflict us when we're respect exactly when we're
when we're talking about this process that we're all important
because we do move the move the needle and bring
the eyeballs or whatever. Like playoff games, people are gonna watch.
They may tune out, they may have it on as
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a second screen experience, but they're gonna watch now. It
is Notre Name more captivating. Absolutely, you saw the numbers
last year. Right. It brings up people to the yard
of positively negatively right. I mean Notre Name is one
of those polarizing schools in that regard because they've been
thrust in front of you low these many years. But
it's just laughable. We get to this point and it's like, well,
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here's all the problems, like all these problems have been
sitting there, oh yeah, yeah, and every iteration of the process,
and especially now because you've now got the considerations not
only have coaches leaving and what do you do with
teams or whatever, but all the players are like, yeah,
I don't know that they're actually gonna want to play
in any of this stuff because they're leaving for another
school or they're getting replaced because they're bringing in another guy.
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So it just makes this whole month leading up into
that process that much messier. And look, and if you
think this is now going to be the death of
the ball system, the death of conference championship games.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The death of the weekly college football polls, You're an idiot.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
None of those things. I thought it was funny that
the folks that have been they had a bunch of
their their hosts just like they were crying for Lane Kiffin.
Let them coach it out. It's like, we gotta get
rid of these shows, Like, are you kidding me? This
is not a red Ladder day, This is not gonna
be again. College football has no rules. The shows are fun, right,
The conference champions games make money.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right, All of this, all of this is happening. This
is simply going to be a big story in the
NIL era of college football timeline. We'll look back at
this poll and say, wow, this one. We knew college
football was really off the rails. But no changes are coming.
They're not gonna get rid of con You're stupid if
you think they're get rid of conference championship games.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
They're not gonna suddenly be hey, we got somebody in
charge of college football. No, that's not happening either. Everything's
gonna be the same. There's gonna be changes. I'm not
saying they're not gonna be changes. But as far as
as far as all those things, it's the death of this.
It's the end of it. No, all of those things
are still happening. Man, I don't know what to tell
you again, pay more attention. Yeah, the accal changes time
breaker rules. I think we can get I will say this,
(10:00):
what do we.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Say last week?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
That's the ACC's fault from making the stupid tie breaker again.
We talked about it last hour. The ACC needs to
be more of a forward thinking conference. And understand you
are in it as cutthroat as the Big Ten and
the SEC are and when it came to well, we're
just gonna have it, No, have some kind of vision
at wolla lo. What if the teams that have we're
all the way down to here as a team that's
not going to get into the playoff And that's it
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two highest ranked teams, there you go. If there's a tie,
the two highest ranked teams play and that's who gets in.
The winner gets in the playoff. Like, I don't understand
that that wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That's the problem with all of this, Even going back
to folks that think of the good old days of
college football, it's always been corrupt and power driven by
the conferences to get as much as they can as
fast as they can. To claim positions about why does
Notre Dame have a deal with NBC because they could
and they can do the cash. Why haven't they joined
a conference in football because they don't have to because
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the money flows. Now unfortunately this year, you know, you
can talk about a screw job possibility in all this,
but when we get down to it, it's the you
gotta be forward thinking, especially if you're not anywhere near
the sec or big ten of how can we get screwed?
And let's look at our constitutions, by laws and processes
to make sure that the hurt is gonna be a
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little bit less because we're gonna get screwed, right, We're
gonna get robbed wherever they possibly can and minimized. How
do we protect ourselves, so we have some level here.
Now do we take some of these conference championship games
to where they become a play in right for the backspots?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Do some of the bowl games maybe go away? I
don't know. We got to look at the financials or
what it does for tourism, ticket sales, buy ins. Because
you did have ten teams tell you to beat it
when it came down just filling out the rest of
these bulls, led by Notre Dame most vociferously, but all
of it. That's the part of the equation that maybe
changes a little bit in the NIL era. Not because
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of what happened to Notre Dame and at Alabama them
again again, no, but but just the reality of as
you transition coaches, as you transition so many players in
and out of your roster on a year to year basis,
that the games that once seem to be so obvious
of that extra month of practice aren't necessarily there anymore.
(12:18):
And might those resources coaching hours be better spent recruiting
and trying to retain getting back into the homes of
the people that you know we're going to get an
offer from a big TAN or SEC school to keep
them there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Look, I mean it's it's they're going to be changes
right every year, because every year, right, if you don't
like college football, wait five minutes, right, like the weather
of Florida. Yeah, but there's not they're not gonna and
they're not. I know, it's Oh, it's doing How can
you have these books? Teams keep opting out of balls?
Guess what they'll find teams to go playing balls. If
No Dame doesn't want to play, they'll find somebody. Many
teams out there find somebody else. Eventually, if Steve Angeli
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was healthy, they would take Syracuse in a bowl game.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, Hey, you're good with Angeli. Let's go back to
the books. They'll play the bowl games. They will have
the bowl games, they will have. None of this is
going away. I mean I don't understand. Oh it's the
end of college foo.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
This is exactly something where college football can take a
big negative and turn it into a positive. Where it's
attention on the sport. It's controversy. But are people not
gonna watch, People gonna tune out of people gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Say, oh I'm not watching this anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
No, it's not happening. Yes, there will be changes. I'm
not gonna say there isn't. We'll get to those changes
coming up in the next in the next few minutes.
But as far as the future of the game, nothing
happened that was ending the sport. Like it's a bit,
it's a big story, but it's a big story that
is defining. It's part of the story of college football.
It's a big red. It's it's a big day in
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the era of the nil.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Era of college football. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
But we're still gonna have conferences, tournaments, We're still gonna
have bowls, We're still gonna have weekly shows and rankings.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Next year. That's not going anywhere. Get rid of the
preseason top twenty five. You're kidding, right, yeah, right, why
you're kidding during the year, we're not gonna do it
because what Week three, there were number eleven and then
they fell out. So you're claiming, uh, hey, people can
use the argument that was no good. I mean, LSU
fired their coach, Penn State fired their coach, Like all
of those things happened in the course of a season.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
People are just pissed now, and I get it. But
in a couple of days, it's gonna be okay, all right,
win of the game starts. All right, people are pissed now,
I get it, and again changes will come, but you're
not gonna see any crazy ass stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But the Notre Dame Miami thing was the only thing
that mattered during any of those ranking shows until Lane
Kiffin was leaving Old miss it be kam. Will they
get will they get bounced? No they didn't, non story.
So here he'll turn on the day of the release
and everybody can be outraged for a minute. Look, change
is coming, Change is inevitable, Change is hard. But that's
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where we're at with college football. You still love it
for the pomp and circumstance, the pageantry, and it really
always comes back to one very fundamental truth in our
sporting universe and in life. Never get in front of
the judges. Okay, don't have to go to court. Don't
have to, you know, with two losses to make a
case that hey, please take me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I think Unfortunately everybody's in front of the judges. And
this I mean only only team not in front of
the judges Indiana.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Hay and all with me. Okay, but if you got
one loss, yeah, you're pretty comfortably in unless you're in
one of those conferences nobody cares about.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But you're in front of the judges and it's like,
how far do well?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But you're still in, You're still in the field. And
then you just you know, backslapping and having a drink,
trying to get it as only YEAHA stayed out of
court to that second loss. Man. Now all of a sudden,
you're fighting for your life. Wait, wait, you made that
a felony? What the hell? Exit out about a fresca exit?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
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Sports Radio studios. So understand, that's where cut, That's what
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Speaker 1 (15:54):
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Speaker 3 (16:07):
What's happening Man? Happy Monday?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Hey, what's going on gentlemen about it all right?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So you got to help us out here, Jay, So
obviously the big story in the last forty five minutes
the Colts, after injuries to Daniel Jones now out for
the year of the torn achilles Riley Leonard is week
to week they are going to work out Philip Rivers,
who last played in the NFL for them four years ago.
Happy birthday, Philip Rivers, by the way, last played four
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years ago, forty four years old. Jay, This isn't real,
is it do.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
We don't have many kids that they have. They had
more kids since he last busy public spirit.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, I know he's got a grand kid now.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, I mean I think he was up to like
ten or eleven kids.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, a lot of time.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah. I think the Colts are cooked no matter what
happens here. We talked about him quite a bit this
week on the one to back because he can get
plus two forty on them to miss the playoffs and
that they're gonna be around for much longer. You know,
it's uh, it's really unraveled there. I mean, they had
the inside shot at the one seed and had the
best record in the AFC A few weeks back. I
(17:11):
think that game in Pittsburgh really kind of started to
unmask them. And they still moved the ball, but they
turned it over. They kind of they screwed that game up.
They had that terrible muff punt. The offensive line started
to whelped a little bit. Daniel Jones started to look
like Daniel Jones. The injuries obviously mounted for him. The
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sauft Gardner trade was an overpay to begin with, and
now with him being hurt, that really looks tough. And
Daniel Jones is going to be compromised through the offseason.
And let's face it, when you trade two ones for
saut Carterner, you're doing that because you don't think you
need a quarterback. You're doing it because you think you've
got them. And now you know they're trying to sign
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philow Rivers off the street, like yeah, And the real
problem for them is the division is actually pretty good
for the first time in forever, So I don't think
it's gonna matter to it. You can really trace it
all back to the Richardson situation and not being able
to develop him and the injuries and the lost opportunity
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and the lost developmental time. And now that whole organization.
It's just crazy. A month ago to now, it just
feels like it's not just a couple of like you know,
losses on a football field. It feels like their direction
was a little bit to me.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now, well, you know me, the longer we can get
these guys in their forties to hang around, I don't
feel so old my own self. Jason, there you go.
How about there more talk of where Lamar is physically
or hating on officials today.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
There's plenty of time and energy for all the above.
You know, with Lamar, it's the physic stuff, but it's
now mental. I mean, he's been visibly frustrated. He's been
clearly plumbaged and confused and pissed, and he's got a
bad offensive line in front of him, and I think
he's starting to crack a little bit. And he's attacking
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some guys verbally on the sidelines and I don't blame
him for that, but it's not a good sign. And
they need people to make plays for him, and it's
it's not really happening, and the running backs starting to
look his age a little bit. Nobody makes plays in
the passing game except for Dight Flowers. And Jake Flowers
is a little guy and he doesn't score touchdowns. There's
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a lot. There's a lot to unpack right now. It's
a bad offensive line, it's a bad defensive line, and
it's going to be a really interesting offseason around here,
whether they make changes in the front office, whether they
make changes to the coaching staff. I personally don't think
this order is going to do it, but we'll see.
I mean, the left tackle probably nearing the end the
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centers of free ag they re up Derrick Henry, but
I mean Chiefs, I don't know. They've got to redo
Lamar's deal again because he's got an eighty million dollar
cap hit, so they have to get that done. He
might hold their feet to the fire there. They don't
have any pass rushers they I don't think none amount
(20:20):
a BK's ever gonna play on the snack in the NFL.
So the best player on defense is probably done. There's
there's a lot, a lot going on here.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, yeah, you get to the likely touchdown that got overturned.
That's been a big topic of conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Now, huh start foot down. Look, I mean I'm fifty
two years old. That was I mean, where has that
been all my life?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, I know you got to get that oh three
feet down okay, hey toejamp on the sideline, but across
the middle.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Hey, I mean I don't I don't understand Jay any
of that call and not allowing that touchdown.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
That When I see plays like that, I go wow.
I look back and.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I go Sometimes the NFL just decides we're gonna really
look at this and see if we can do everything
we can to change this call.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And sometimes they don't. And this is one of them.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Real they did everything they could to change that call
that clearly was a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Big Brother jumps in and gets caught up in the
weeds in the venutia in one game and another game,
they're willing to let head to head collisions on a
quarterback go. They're willing to let guys being dragged into
the end zone by by four people not push them behind,
but pulled across the line like they're letting things. They
get called out in real time by announcers and refereeing experts.
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Refereeing experts to the league, by the way, was too
cheap to keep. That's why they all laughed, because they
could make more money talking about it on TV than
he could actually overseeing it for the NFL. That's I'll
cheap the billionaires. Yeah, we find ourselves in predicaments like this,
I mean two feet down in a football move, and
like I had no money on likely to catch a touchdown,
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Like it didn't affect my pocketbook, and it didn't affect
any fandom. But like he's got two feet out almost
a third foot and he takes the ball and extends
it away from the defender. If that's not a football move,
what the hell the football move?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
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the NFL as we roll forward. So but stay in
the AFC North Shador Sanders now the King of Yak
(22:28):
and he's got the job for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean he's he's held up pretty well with a
team that's fizzle and collapsed, playing for a coach who
clearly never wanted anything to do with him. Yeah, I mean,
I don't think there's really any other choice, Like, what
are you can go back to Dylan Gabriel and then
this guy, actually, Garry Judy actually plays football again. You know,
both tight ends and I know when Juco Djoko got
(22:53):
hurt again in this game, but like both tight ends
actually played football again, Like they actually run rounds where
they have a chance of the ball hitting them in
they's more than four feet downfield. Like it's it's I mean,
it's shameful what they did. It really is. It's ridiculous
that they wasted a half this kid's rookie year so
that they could look at Flacco for three or four
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weeks and then look at you know, waste six weeks
with going Gabriel pretending that he's an NFL quarterback or
has a chance to be an NFL quarterback. Like it's really,
it's really kind of ridiculous because we should know more
about Shador Standers. They should know more about schor Sanders.
You know, you draft him where you draft him, and
maybe you don't want to play him at first, like okay,
(23:36):
but but when you're training Flacco and then you're going
to Gabriel, it's just it's it's ridiculous. But whatever, Uh
I don't know, guys like uh I don't know if
the Fanski will still be there. I don't know. I'm
sure Sanders will be there, but like, I don't know
if he's gonna be competing with a veteran. I don't
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know if they're going to use the high draft they
want to on a quarterback again, Like, is Andrew Barry
definitely there or was the Podesta's departure a sign of
other moves to Comba. Don't know the answer to all
those questions, but he's definitely the best quarterback on their
roster and an even close.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
All right, Jay, how about this? We watched the Chiefs
lose last night. The Texans keep rolling their defense playing
at such a high level.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Are the Chiefs cooked for this season? Can they still
find their way back? Where are you on this?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I mean they're cooked to the Super Bowl contender like
they you know, I don't know, to just fall off
a cliff and you know, this game tonight is obviously
huge for them, and the Chargers hold on here or not?
I mean, that's that's kind of everything for for these guys.
Obviously they've got some head to head to head lost instacts,
(24:45):
head to head lost and suson. So that's gonna be
real tough at the time with those guys and any
sort of wild card, uh situation. I mean, they're they're
horribly flawed football team. They're they're U age, and their
their age in some spots and just their the lack
(25:09):
of ability in others. It's it's kind of shocking, how
what we're not that far removed from them winning seventeen
straight one score games, you know, and now they get
in a close and late situation and you just kind
of wait for them to melt down there. You know,
something to go wrong and guy to drop the ball
(25:29):
and got to knock the ball off his hands to
the other team, kick her to miss one. It's just
they find a myriad of ways to lose now, which
is the antithesis of what they've been.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, it's always been the one score game going the
other way back into the playoffs. So now we got
a live Miami Dolphins after they take down the Jets.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, well, look, I think they're keeping keeping your coach
and your quarterbacks employed down there, which if you're a
Dolphins fan, should probably make it. But I think it's
gonna run back with these guys, I really do. Yeah,
And I think they'll probably be pretty bad by thanks
killing again next year, and then the owner is going
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to be deep enough down the road where he'll be
paying two or sixty millions one more time, and everybody
will be gone by this time next year. But yeah,
they're winning games. And look, they've allowed seventeen or fewer,
I think in for of their last five games. Anthony
Weavers doing a really nice job with the defense, even
after they traded Jalen Phillips, And they're running the hell
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out of football. You know, that's really what it is.
I mean, too, is not doing anything special. He has
hit the occasional deep shot the wattle, which is more
than he did in the pass. But it's it's really
kind of old school, and it's been it's been really
effective the last four or five weeks. And look, could
they go into Pittsburgh and beat them Monday night? I
(26:54):
certainly think they could because they can run the ball
and that's been obviously a problem for Pittsburgh, and hell,
it's been a problem for Pittsburgh against teams in that division.
So but no, I don't think they're particularly close to
being a true contender. But I don't think many people
would want to come into that situation as a head
coach and have to inherit to and inherit all of that.
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And you know he's McDaniel's kuy So I think the
book coming back honesty.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
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Speaker 3 (27:30):
Man, have a great week. We'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You guys are the same.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Thank you, Jason.
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Speaker 1 (27:44):
If you like turnovers and big plays and field goals,
Monday Night was your night. The Chargers beat the Eagles
twenty two to nineteen. LA improves to nine and four,
Philadelphia drops to eight and five. Jalen Hurd is intercepted
for the fourth time of the night a ball he
tried to sneak in to Dotson that was better left,
(28:07):
not thrown. And the Eagles go down to defeat, and
now you're wondering can they even hold on to the
NFC East? Now Dallas is going. Man, if we had
just able to win if we get a beaten Detroit.
But there's still a lot. You're talking about four games left, man,
and the Eagles are just completely on vapors now, and
(28:28):
it's tough to watch the defending champs, who have such
a talented roster go the way they're going. But luckily,
Mike Harmon, I can solve all the eagles problems right now.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You can solve their problems. Yes, so you are the
figurative Jeff Goldbloom in this situation. We're off to see
the Wizard.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Are either gonna say like life finds Away like Jurassic Park. Oh,
we can do that too, life finds Away.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
He might have actually been construed as a good guy
at a grand scale there, alright, right, let me go otherwise, Hey, hey,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Let me go back to the Fly where he was
a good guy and a bad guy. There you go, Oh, Brundle,
Sid Brundle, Fly fuses with pod. Oh no, that was
kind of like if Harvey Kaitel was a dinosaur and
he was mad.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I'm sorry, tail, it hurts to his teammates through so
many bad picks. Now, sorry, how can I solve the Eagles? Problems.
Welcome to the Miami Dolphins. Wait what training with the Dolphins. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. The Dolphins hold the key to what the
(29:41):
Eagles need to do.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Dolphins, yesterday they thumped the Jets right a game in
which the Jets clearly weren't ready. I don't know if
they practiced all week. It's twenty one to nothing midway
through the first quarter, and suddenly CBS is running the stats.
When's the last time a team was up this big?
There a team scored twenty eight points in the first quarter.
It was absolutely a blow again. I don't feel like
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the Jets knew anything that the Dolphins were trying to do.
And all the Dolphins did was just give the ball
to Devon eight chan and right a little bit of
Oli Gordon later on, and they just ran the ball
and ran over the Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
That's all they did was run the football. I saw
the stop stop, he's already dead. Guy way too far.
It was really early too. I'm like, wait, yeah, eight
minutes to go in the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Game was over, right, But this is about the Dolphins.
The Dolphins who started out one and six, it was over.
McDaniel was getting fired to it was going to be
on a new team. It was about as bad as
it could be for Miami because everything was coming apart.
It was going to be a new regime in next year.
Everything was going to be new. Now what's Miami done?
(30:54):
Now they're six and seven, all right, they have figured
out a way back into the back end of the
playoff chase. Now they've won four in a row and
five out of six.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Okay, what have they done?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
They did exactly what the Eagles need to do. And
it's a tough decision because, you know, the Dolphins is
kind of easy because look, we're terrible in one and six,
Eagles are the champs. The Dolphins went from we are
a high octane offense with Waddle and Tyreek Hill and Tua.
We still believe in Tua even though you know they don't. Yeah,
Johnny Smith with eighty eight ago, Oh yeah, once upon
(31:29):
a time, you know, and we have you know, and
a Chan's a great running back and we can you know,
he's part of what we have going on. But we
are going to be a high octane offense going up
and down the field. Well, what happened, Tyreek Kill got
hurt and Mike McDaniel, I give I give the guy
credit because now not only he saved his career at Miami,
he saved to his career in Miami, he saved their season.
(31:50):
He decided, we need to change who we are. We're
not gonna win that way, because they weren't gonna win
that way anyway. Before Tyreek Hill got hurt. You could
see the TUA that the Dolphins got figured out. As
good as they were fifteen months ago, they got figured
out we need to become a run first football team.
And for a Miami Dolphin team that the you know,
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their hallmark has always been we're throwing the football, right,
no matter what kind of situation, whatever kind of team
they have, they're always a team that throws the football. No,
we are going to become a ball control team. We
have the horses offensively to do this. And two was
going to become a game manager. And he can still
make plays once in a while, which he did right.
He made the big throw for a touchdown in the
(32:32):
first quarter yesterday, made a couple of throws at Jalen Waddle.
But this was a Dolphins team that ran for two
hundred and eighty yards and a chan before he left.
He could have gone back in the game, but McDaniel
said there was no reason to because you.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Have to worry about it. If they were running all
over the.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Jets, didn't matter who was running with us. Ricky Williams
could have been running the football. He's fifty years old,
and we would have been able to have this kind
of success against the Jets. That's all we did. Right,
Jalen Wrights, you're leading rusher. Yesterday he didn't get a
carry until the second quarter. Ran for one hundred yards. Right,
he had ninety two Yead Gordon had seventeen in a touchdown.
This is what the Dolphins did. They turned themselves into
(33:07):
a ball control We're gonna run the football first, and
we're taking our identity and we're changing it and we're
changing from the throw first team that we are to
this hey pinball team. We're gonna light up the scoreboard.
And look what it's done. The Dolphins now have fought
their way back in the back end of contention. Right,
they're six and seven.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The Eagles need to.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Do the exact same. Sixty seven sixty seven, sixty seven, right,
six seven. I had to do it, and now the
Eagles need to do the same thing. We talked about
this earlier in the show What's Been, but for a
different reason the Eagles coming into this year, you knew
it wasn't gonna be a Saquon Barkley heavy year for
most part because Barkley with all the carries coming off
last year, you just don't have the same kind of year.
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And Barkley has not been that guy. The Eagles have
tried for a long time to try to say, Okay,
Jalen Hurts is going to solve our problems. We are
going to throw the football up and down the field.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
We have the guys to do it right. That a
great tight end.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
We're gonna get aj Brown on track, DeVante Smith is
a great weapon. We're gonna find a way to do it. Man,
I don't care what. We are gonna find a way
to do it. And after all these weeks into week thirteen,
they still can't do it right. Different reports about how
much Jalen Hurts is liked or not liked on the team,
how much they don't like or don't like, like or
(34:22):
don't like each other, how much they like or don't
like Nick Siriani, whatever control Nick Sirianni has with the
team with the with the offense when they throw the football,
maybe or maybe not. Jalen Hurts is changing plays and
and and going rogue. We had that report a couple
of weeks ago. However, you want to shake it, shake
it up. Going Jalen Hurts driven is not working. They
(34:43):
tried to make it work because you thought you had too. Well,
he's our quarterback, we're paying him. He's won a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Now this is he is. He is that good. But
it's not working.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
They give plenty of chances to do it. You have
to get back to being Saquon Barkley driven. Now It's okay, Saquon.
We haven't had the same kind of workload we gave
you last because we've been a different team and we
know that you're not that guy. But now that we're
into December, that's who you have to be. That's who
we have to be. They have to be Saquon Barkley driven.
And what did they do tonight? They gave the ball
(35:12):
to Saquon Barkley a lot, had the big touchdown run.
If you're Saquon Barkley driven, I can buy back in
the on the Eagles because their roster is just that talented.
The rest of the offense and defensively, if they can
become more of a team like the Dolphins where Hurtz
becomes a game manager and you're Saquon Barkley driven, then
I can believe in you because I know I've seen
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Barkley do it. And after having not and after having
a first twelve or thirteen weeks where not as many carries,
you're as fresh as you're gonna be at this point,
and Barkley running up and down the sideline after that
big fifty yard touchdown run. Okay, let's be Saquon Barkley driven.
What did the Eagles not do in the rest of
the fourth court in overtime? Give the ball to Saquon Barkley,
(35:53):
and what happened? You have Jalen Hurts coming off a
no touchdown for interception performance and Saquon Barkley running for
one hundred yards the big go ahead touchdown. If this
doesn't tell you we have to change our philosophy and
change who we are, nothing else does. No scores four
picks for Jalen Hurts, one hundred yards and a touchdown
for Barkley. If they are Barkley driven the rest of
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the way. I will buy back in on the Eagles.
I will get back into them being a team that
can cause damage in the playoffs, because there's no great
team anywhere, not in the NFC, not in the AFC.
I will buy back in. But this is the game
that shows you they have to do it, because you see, Hey,
if the Eagles keep trying to tread this and go
on this line of yeah, we're gonna throw the football
a ton and still try to make it work with
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Hurts and Brown and DeVante Smith, You've tried it way
too much. It's not working to be the offense you
were last year because Barkley covered a lot of issues
last year, covered a lot of problems for the Eagles.
Still had problems offensively last year, but Barkley running for
two thousand yards, you're able to cover up a lot.
Usually it's a quarterback that covers up a lot of ills.
Barkley coming in the personality that he was. Everybody loves
Saquon Barkley. It was a great moment in time. Eagles
(36:58):
have to draw back on that formula, and I'll buy
back in.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, We've talked a lot about the continuity, consistency, leadership
in the locker room, all of those things with Jay Glazer,
Me and Cosell on Sunday mornings a little bit. And
you and I certainly have tossed this one back and
forth like a medicine ball in a big workout, oftentimes
trying to figure out exactly what we're doing here because
(37:21):
you've had the injuries on the offensive line. Obviously you
lose Jason Kelsey. He's hanging out in the podcast land
with his multi million dollar deal in all and I'm
sure they wish he was back there as an anchor
and a locker room guy and all of that stuff
to kind of solidify. But we haven't seen the same
explosion off the line by the front five, right, so
(37:42):
we haven't had that. Jalen Hurts is right now in
half his yardage that he had rushing the football last year.
His passing numbers very much in line with what he
put across for a full season and what he played
last year. Last year he had eighteen touchdowns against five picks,
basically at that same line at this point. Now he
goes over to the sixth pick with that game sealer.
(38:04):
But we watched them move the ball and actually commit
to Saint Kawan Barkley. If we watched that over the
course of the season as well, you had a number
of games where he didn't get to double digit touches.
It hasn't been as active in the passing game, but
certainly from a rushing perspective, they haven't tried to set
up balance. Hell I would have excused it even if
they brought in Tank Bigsby, who they traded for somebody
(38:26):
else had tried to run the ball, but they haven't
even done that. Hurts tonight four carries eight yards. Right,
you're not even using what was a big part that
helped make him super a little bit more, especially kind
of like we're watching the diminished versions physically of Lamar
Jackson in some of these other quarterbacks. Right, you're seeing
more scrambles from Patrick Mahons, still seeing the Superman cape
(38:48):
come out for Josh Allen, but for Jalen Hurts, we're
not seeing that, and not even the tush push being
utilized to the same level of effectiveness. Remember the Bears
stole the ball from him, but final possession, we kept
looking at each other just shrugging our shoulders because he's
trying to push down field. You got that big completion
to Smith, got the big sideline route to Goddard, no
(39:10):
calls to put the ball back in Saquon Barkley's gut.
You got that defense that's been on the field a
ton all night, and you finally have a little bit
of an advantage where you're winning that trench warfare and
you don't go to that instead pushing the ball down
the field. Great play by the defenders, no question about it.
But for the rest of this season, you're looking at
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a schedule that's really advantageous for them. Only the Saints
and Giants have lesser quality of opponents. You've got a
game against the Bills and week to week we watched them,
still a top ten scoring defense, but other issues. And
then you have the Raiders and two games against the
whatever's left of the Commanders. Right at this point, I
don't even know. I guess Marcus Mariona comes back, so
(39:54):
they'll be winging the ball around. But it's that idea
of you've got a t terrible team and at whatever
you know, however you want to describe either of those
those squads with Buffalo as your only plus team still
on this and you could still go get it right.
It's still theirs for the taking in terms of the division.
But we're at going into week fifteen and still scratching
(40:18):
our heads going what are we doing? Look, and here's
the thing and here's why he can do it right.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Last year, Barkley three hundred and forty five carries, okay,
three forty five carries, and he caught thirty three passes
and then what he had in the playoffs. Right, it's
nearly five hundred touches from Barkley last year. Okay, he
needed some time, you know, you don't bounce back. Took
some time to heal, right, and he tells you, well,
you had to take a lot of time coming off
of that. Five hundred touches is a lot in this season.
(40:42):
Right now, with four games left, he's at one hundred
and ninety eight touches, so he is far behind his
pace of last year. So in theory, he should be fresher.
And I gotta tell you tonight, it didn't look like
he was running in mud. It didn't look like he
was someone who he looked like. He looked like a
guy that Okay, now it's say Kwon Barkley time when
he had that fifty two yard touchdown run. He splits
(41:03):
the defense and goes through and then he's on the sideline.
You could deal. That was the moment where the Eagles said, hey,
wait a minute, Saquon Barkley is back. He's our guy.
Now he's had a lot less carry. You look at
his numbers week to week. This is where he should
be fresh. Right, We're into early part of December and
there's you know, we have four games left and the
division's there for you. It's an easy it's honestly, I
(41:24):
think it's an easy call to make. I mean, really,
it's an easy call to make. And the because the
Eagles live in dysfunction. Man, it's of course, Hey, Jalen,
you're gonna be a game manager. Now, say Kuan, go ahead.
You're you're gonna get twenty five carries a game. Now,
that's been how we're gonna win games. Now we're gonna
control the football, We're gonna limit our turnovers. This is
what we're gonna do, right, Like, I mean, I think
it's a pretty easy decision to make.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Defense is against the run. Let's see, Commanders are twenty ninth,
the Bills are twenty eighth Raiders. You can do whatever
you want on them, So it's a little.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
That could be a forfeit though, I mean maybe I
have thought child, that would be a forfeit. Maybe you
kick a field goal late. I don't know, and Raider
fans get mad.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Well your forfeit.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think you win to nothing. Right, You can look
at that scrorel of ten years now going Wow, what
a game that would have been safety to nothing. Wow,
what the defense must have been awesome
Speaker 4 (42:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Fourth quarter, we have a tie game in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
After he yet another turnover.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is the thirty sixth turnover of the game tonight,
the Chargers tie it up with the Eagles sixteen a piece.
Cabern Dickers field goal gives us an even game. Now
midway through the fourth quarter, charters getting the football back again.
We'll have more on this game coming up in a
few minutes. But hey, it's been sloppy. The quarterback's begetting hit.
(00:59):
There've been a lot of tip balls interceptions. But it's
close on a Monday night.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's it. That's it. That's holiday season here for everybody.
Tie game, final six minutes, it's an absolute gift to
us Justin Herbert six sacks, Jalen Hirts with more interceptions
tonight than he had all season combined coming into this game.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Uh, there has been I would say, overall before you
get back into the college world playoffs and overall last
week regular season, in fantasy playoffs, anybody who started outside
of Barkley or maybe a little bit of a mari
and Hampton, right, because he does have the touchdown, and
(01:40):
there's lots of guys that got started this week in
fantasy on both of these teams. You are unbleep and
happy with what you've seen so far tonight because nobody
is having a big night. Everybody's got guys going Tonight's
gonna lose. Everybody's gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, unless you had Barkley might have gotten into survival
or the kickers. Yeah, Okay, be one of the biggest
scores of the week, So you know, take that for it.
He was it worth what twenty five twenty six points
in most leagues sell.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Again, we'll have more in this game coming up in
a few minutes, but the reaction to the college football
playoff the last twenty four hours has been all over
the map, and you've heard all the different arguments. You've
heard everything, so what we like to do is to
give you something new. Yes, Notre Dame has left out
Why Notre Dame Miami weren't flipped before this week?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Stunning?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Why teams like James Madison and Tulane get in stunning?
You can't tell me you have the best twelve teams.
It is a really faulty process. And and everything was
laid bare with the unveiling of the college football Playoff
a day ago. And the first thing I want to
say is this is that this was inevitable and predictable
(03:00):
cause college football has no rules. They have no rules.
There's no one running the ship. There's not even someone
who I can say is corrupt and they're taking money. No,
there's no one running college football. It's the conferences are
out for themselves, the big teams out for themselves. College
football has no rules. It's how we got to the
nil era, It's how we got to the transfer era.
(03:20):
It's why we are where we are. There are no
rules in college football. So if there's no rules, how
do you expect the playoff to go any different than
it did? That looks like an absolute mess, and people
trying to defend picks and positions, and why a team
moved ahead of another team when neither of them played
last week. Of course there was going to be this messy.
Of course it's gonna be like this because when you
(03:42):
have no rules, this is how it goes. So this
should have been absolutely predictable. And anybody who thought it
wasn't gonna be this way, well, you guys haven't been
paying attention.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, so long as you have a system in place,
and look a lot more vocal proponents of get it
back to the computers, Like you all hated the computers,
But I like the computers. But you know, I joke before,
I love I like the high exactly. The mean girl's reference.
Or when you're going for, say a nomination at any
level of government, even down to your local school board,
(04:11):
to prop yourself up by by way of comparison, you're
tearing other people down. In this case, you've got folks
that have their vested interest in their conference, in their
schools to go in and lobby as hard as they can.
Why because they get more of the gold, they get
more of the control, and that's what you have in there.
You've got very few actual football people it's people that
(04:33):
are speaking on behalf of teams and doing stump speeches
like they're at the foot of you know, the of Congress.
I mean, that's where we're at. So so long as
that is the system, it's going to be flawed. It
becomes the hey, i'll convintion to my side, what are
the numbers, doesn't matter. Like the Notre Dame Miami thing
(04:54):
was the all right, we'll wait until we actually have
to use this head to head and side by side.
That's what they said. After the fact. We never him
side by side. You're glad. We don't believe you. But
you didn't activate it because you didn't need to, because
it made for a better TV show. Because every year,
every week, as Notre Dame got better and better, towards
the end of the season, it became a aren't they
the better team? Because I think I were eight or
(05:15):
nine to one before the playoff bracket got released and
by the way, there was actually a leak from fan
duel oh yeah, before it came out, and it had
Notre Dame in that ten slot, and then all of
a sudden, like whoa wait, wait, you mean oh you
mean division? You mean conference champions?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh wait, delete, delete, delete delete. You know you know
how I feel about this, and I feel weird about this.
But do you ever have have a friend who you're
really good friends with, but one thing they're not They
don't do the right they don't act the right way.
For like, maybe they're in a relationship with somebody, they
don't treat that person right. And you're like, you know,
we're friends. I know you're a good guy. You got
(05:54):
you gotta you gotta get you, gotta treat the other
person better. Yeah, and then something embarrassing happens and your
friend gets embarrassed and you feel bad for them, but
at the same time, you're like, good, I hope you
learned your bleeping lesson. That's kind of how I feel
right now about college football. I love God, of course
college football. Of course, how much we talk about how
much I love college football my whole life. But right
now I'm like, good, I'm glad you own this absolute
(06:16):
tire fire of a playoff of what it is.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Good.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I good. I feel like a good I told you
so kind of way. I want.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know, we were friends, we're really close, and I
love you, But man, I'm glad you're getting your come
up ands right now, because you need come up and because.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
This is stupid. But the funny thing and all of
this is that as soon as Bovaka was on with
Dan Patrick, it was no longer Alabama slipped out the
back door about Alabama anymore. Hey, you guys paying, Rob's
gonna leave. They got in and for about I don't know,
three or four hours, there's a big deal and then
no bowl game, and you started seeing some of the
missives back and forth, and eventually you get Vakua on
(06:54):
with Dan Patrick this morning. He's like, that's it, Alabama's
entry into all this. Nobody cares about why did you
string us along with having us flipped with Miami this
whole time? Why did you do this and all of
these decisions along the way. But yeah, I mean you
make all these decisions as a school, right Notre Dame.
They've got to live. And it's it's pretty nice when
(07:15):
you've got this NBC deal and and the schedule, and
I know it's made years in advance, and and you
have an EBB and flow as to who's good, bad
coaches leaving administrators, leaving all of that stuff that you
don't know years in advance. I understand that the fluidity
of all of that, but it's still to the point
of we want benefits on some parts of being in
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the conference. But then you need to genuflec Now you
need to genuflict us when we're respect exactly when we're
when we're talking about this process that we're all important
because we do move the move the needle and bring
the eyeballs or whatever. Like playoff games, people are gonna watch.
They may tune out, they may have it on as
(07:56):
a second screen experience, but they're gonna watch now. It
is Notre Name more captivating. Absolutely, you saw the numbers
last year. Right. It brings up people to the yard
of positively negatively right. I mean Notre Name is one
of those polarizing schools in that regard because they've been
thrust in front of you low these many years. But
it's just laughable. We get to this point and it's like, well,
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here's all the problems, like all these problems have been
sitting there, oh yeah, yeah, and every iteration of the process,
and especially now because you've now got the considerations not
only have coaches leaving and what do you do with
teams or whatever, but all the players are like, yeah,
I don't know that they're actually gonna want to play
in any of this stuff because they're leaving for another
school or they're getting replaced because they're bringing in another guy.
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So it just makes this whole month leading up into
that process that much messier. And look, and if you
think this is now going to be the death of
the ball system, the death of conference championship games.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The death of the weekly college football polls, You're an idiot.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
None of those things. I thought it was funny that
the folks that have been they had a bunch of
their their hosts just like they were crying for Lane Kiffin.
Let them coach it out. It's like, we gotta get
rid of these shows, Like, are you kidding me? This
is not a red Ladder day, This is not gonna
be again. College football has no rules. The shows are fun, right,
The conference champions games make money.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right, All of this, all of this is happening. This
is simply going to be a big story in the
NIL era of college football timeline. We'll look back at
this poll and say, wow, this one. We knew college
football was really off the rails. But no changes are coming.
They're not gonna get rid of con You're stupid if
you think they're get rid of conference championship games.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
They're not gonna suddenly be hey, we got somebody in
charge of college football. No, that's not happening either. Everything's
gonna be the same. There's gonna be changes. I'm not
saying they're not gonna be changes. But as far as
as far as all those things, it's the death of this.
It's the end of it. No, all of those things
are still happening. Man, I don't know what to tell
you again, pay more attention. Yeah, the accal changes time
breaker rules. I think we can get I will say this,
(10:00):
what do we.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Say last week?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
That's the ACC's fault from making the stupid tie breaker again.
We talked about it last hour. The ACC needs to
be more of a forward thinking conference. And understand you
are in it as cutthroat as the Big Ten and
the SEC are and when it came to well, we're
just gonna have it, No, have some kind of vision
at wolla lo. What if the teams that have we're
all the way down to here as a team that's
not going to get into the playoff And that's it
(10:23):
two highest ranked teams, there you go. If there's a tie,
the two highest ranked teams play and that's who gets in.
The winner gets in the playoff. Like, I don't understand
that that wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That's the problem with all of this, Even going back
to folks that think of the good old days of
college football, it's always been corrupt and power driven by
the conferences to get as much as they can as
fast as they can. To claim positions about why does
Notre Dame have a deal with NBC because they could
and they can do the cash. Why haven't they joined
a conference in football because they don't have to because
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the money flows. Now unfortunately this year, you know, you
can talk about a screw job possibility in all this,
but when we get down to it, it's the you
gotta be forward thinking, especially if you're not anywhere near
the sec or big ten of how can we get screwed?
And let's look at our constitutions, by laws and processes
to make sure that the hurt is gonna be a
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little bit less because we're gonna get screwed, right, We're
gonna get robbed wherever they possibly can and minimized. How
do we protect ourselves, so we have some level here.
Now do we take some of these conference championship games
to where they become a play in right for the backspots?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Do some of the bowl games maybe go away? I
don't know. We got to look at the financials or
what it does for tourism, ticket sales, buy ins. Because
you did have ten teams tell you to beat it
when it came down just filling out the rest of
these bulls, led by Notre Dame most vociferously, but all
of it. That's the part of the equation that maybe
changes a little bit in the NIL era. Not because
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of what happened to Notre Dame and at Alabama them
again again, no, but but just the reality of as
you transition coaches, as you transition so many players in
and out of your roster on a year to year basis,
that the games that once seem to be so obvious
of that extra month of practice aren't necessarily there anymore.
(12:18):
And might those resources coaching hours be better spent recruiting
and trying to retain getting back into the homes of
the people that you know we're going to get an
offer from a big TAN or SEC school to keep
them there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Look, I mean it's it's they're going to be changes
right every year, because every year, right, if you don't
like college football, wait five minutes, right, like the weather
of Florida. Yeah, but there's not they're not gonna and
they're not. I know, it's Oh, it's doing How can
you have these books? Teams keep opting out of balls?
Guess what they'll find teams to go playing balls. If
No Dame doesn't want to play, they'll find somebody. Many
teams out there find somebody else. Eventually, if Steve Angeli
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was healthy, they would take Syracuse in a bowl game.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, Hey, you're good with Angeli. Let's go back to
the books. They'll play the bowl games. They will have
the bowl games, they will have. None of this is
going away. I mean I don't understand. Oh it's the
end of college foo.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
This is exactly something where college football can take a
big negative and turn it into a positive. Where it's
attention on the sport. It's controversy. But are people not
gonna watch, People gonna tune out of people gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Say, oh I'm not watching this anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
No, it's not happening. Yes, there will be changes. I'm
not gonna say there isn't. We'll get to those changes
coming up in the next in the next few minutes.
But as far as the future of the game, nothing
happened that was ending the sport. Like it's a bit,
it's a big story, but it's a big story that
is defining. It's part of the story of college football.
It's a big red. It's it's a big day in
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the era of the nil.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Era of college football. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
But we're still gonna have conferences, tournaments, We're still gonna
have bowls, We're still gonna have weekly shows and rankings.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Next year. That's not going anywhere. Get rid of the
preseason top twenty five. You're kidding, right, yeah, right, why
you're kidding during the year, we're not gonna do it
because what Week three, there were number eleven and then
they fell out. So you're claiming, uh, hey, people can
use the argument that was no good. I mean, LSU
fired their coach, Penn State fired their coach, Like all
of those things happened in the course of a season.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
People are just pissed now, and I get it. But
in a couple of days, it's gonna be okay, all right,
win of the game starts. All right, people are pissed now,
I get it, and again changes will come, but you're
not gonna see any crazy ass stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But the Notre Dame Miami thing was the only thing
that mattered during any of those ranking shows until Lane
Kiffin was leaving Old miss it be kam. Will they
get will they get bounced? No they didn't, non story.
So here he'll turn on the day of the release
and everybody can be outraged for a minute. Look, change
is coming, Change is inevitable, Change is hard. But that's
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where we're at with college football. You still love it
for the pomp and circumstance, the pageantry, and it really
always comes back to one very fundamental truth in our
sporting universe and in life. Never get in front of
the judges. Okay, don't have to go to court. Don't
have to, you know, with two losses to make a
case that hey, please take me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I think Unfortunately everybody's in front of the judges. And
this I mean only only team not in front of
the judges Indiana.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Hay and all with me. Okay, but if you got
one loss, yeah, you're pretty comfortably in unless you're in
one of those conferences nobody cares about.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But you're in front of the judges and it's like,
how far do well?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But you're still in, You're still in the field. And
then you just you know, backslapping and having a drink,
trying to get it as only YEAHA stayed out of
court to that second loss. Man. Now all of a sudden,
you're fighting for your life. Wait, wait, you made that
a felony? What the hell? Exit out about a fresca exit?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Swallen Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harman live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. So understand, that's where cut, That's what
happened in the last twenty four forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (15:54):
Joining us now on the hot line, nobody better than anest,
the NFL Insider, one of five seven the fan in Baltimore,
the Washington Post. He is on Twitter at Jason Lock
and for That's at Jason Lock and for Jay.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
What's happening Man? Happy Monday?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Hey, what's going on gentlemen about it all right?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So you got to help us out here, Jay, So
obviously the big story in the last forty five minutes
the Colts, after injuries to Daniel Jones now out for
the year of the torn achilles Riley Leonard is week
to week they are going to work out Philip Rivers,
who last played in the NFL for them four years ago.
Happy birthday, Philip Rivers, by the way, last played four
(16:33):
years ago, forty four years old. Jay, This isn't real,
is it do.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
We don't have many kids that they have. They had
more kids since he last busy public spirit.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, I know he's got a grand kid now.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, I mean I think he was up to like
ten or eleven kids.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, a lot of time.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah. I think the Colts are cooked no matter what
happens here. We talked about him quite a bit this
week on the one to back because he can get
plus two forty on them to miss the playoffs and
that they're gonna be around for much longer. You know,
it's uh, it's really unraveled there. I mean, they had
the inside shot at the one seed and had the
best record in the AFC A few weeks back. I
(17:11):
think that game in Pittsburgh really kind of started to
unmask them. And they still moved the ball, but they
turned it over. They kind of they screwed that game up.
They had that terrible muff punt. The offensive line started
to whelped a little bit. Daniel Jones started to look
like Daniel Jones. The injuries obviously mounted for him. The
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sauft Gardner trade was an overpay to begin with, and
now with him being hurt, that really looks tough. And
Daniel Jones is going to be compromised through the offseason.
And let's face it, when you trade two ones for
saut Carterner, you're doing that because you don't think you
need a quarterback. You're doing it because you think you've
got them. And now you know they're trying to sign
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philow Rivers off the street, like yeah, And the real
problem for them is the division is actually pretty good
for the first time in forever, So I don't think
it's gonna matter to it. You can really trace it
all back to the Richardson situation and not being able
to develop him and the injuries and the lost opportunity
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and the lost developmental time. And now that whole organization.
It's just crazy. A month ago to now, it just
feels like it's not just a couple of like you know,
losses on a football field. It feels like their direction
was a little bit to me.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now, well, you know me, the longer we can get
these guys in their forties to hang around, I don't
feel so old my own self. Jason, there you go.
How about there more talk of where Lamar is physically
or hating on officials today.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
There's plenty of time and energy for all the above.
You know, with Lamar, it's the physic stuff, but it's
now mental. I mean, he's been visibly frustrated. He's been
clearly plumbaged and confused and pissed, and he's got a
bad offensive line in front of him, and I think
he's starting to crack a little bit. And he's attacking
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some guys verbally on the sidelines and I don't blame
him for that, but it's not a good sign. And
they need people to make plays for him, and it's
it's not really happening, and the running backs starting to
look his age a little bit. Nobody makes plays in
the passing game except for Dight Flowers. And Jake Flowers
is a little guy and he doesn't score touchdowns. There's
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a lot. There's a lot to unpack right now. It's
a bad offensive line, it's a bad defensive line, and
it's going to be a really interesting offseason around here,
whether they make changes in the front office, whether they
make changes to the coaching staff. I personally don't think
this order is going to do it, but we'll see.
I mean, the left tackle probably nearing the end the
(19:59):
centers of free ag they re up Derrick Henry, but
I mean Chiefs, I don't know. They've got to redo
Lamar's deal again because he's got an eighty million dollar
cap hit, so they have to get that done. He
might hold their feet to the fire there. They don't
have any pass rushers they I don't think none amount
(20:20):
a BK's ever gonna play on the snack in the NFL.
So the best player on defense is probably done. There's
there's a lot, a lot going on here.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, yeah, you get to the likely touchdown that got overturned.
That's been a big topic of conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Now, huh start foot down. Look, I mean I'm fifty
two years old. That was I mean, where has that
been all my life?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, I know you got to get that oh three
feet down okay, hey toejamp on the sideline, but across
the middle.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Hey, I mean I don't I don't understand Jay any
of that call and not allowing that touchdown.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
That When I see plays like that, I go wow.
I look back and.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I go Sometimes the NFL just decides we're gonna really
look at this and see if we can do everything
we can to change this call.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And sometimes they don't. And this is one of them.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Real they did everything they could to change that call
that clearly was a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Big Brother jumps in and gets caught up in the
weeds in the venutia in one game and another game,
they're willing to let head to head collisions on a
quarterback go. They're willing to let guys being dragged into
the end zone by by four people not push them behind,
but pulled across the line like they're letting things. They
get called out in real time by announcers and refereeing experts.
(21:33):
Refereeing experts to the league, by the way, was too
cheap to keep. That's why they all laughed, because they
could make more money talking about it on TV than
he could actually overseeing it for the NFL. That's I'll
cheap the billionaires. Yeah, we find ourselves in predicaments like this,
I mean two feet down in a football move, and
like I had no money on likely to catch a touchdown,
(21:53):
Like it didn't affect my pocketbook, and it didn't affect
any fandom. But like he's got two feet out almost
a third foot and he takes the ball and extends
it away from the defender. If that's not a football move,
what the hell the football move?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Fair boy? Jason locking for our guest Washington Bows one
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Uh where you find at? Jason lockinfor on X for
all of that in the above and his missives on
the NFL as we roll forward. So but stay in
the AFC North Shador Sanders now the King of Yak
(22:28):
and he's got the job for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean he's he's held up pretty well with a
team that's fizzle and collapsed, playing for a coach who
clearly never wanted anything to do with him. Yeah, I mean,
I don't think there's really any other choice, Like, what
are you can go back to Dylan Gabriel and then
this guy, actually, Garry Judy actually plays football again. You know,
both tight ends and I know when Juco Djoko got
(22:53):
hurt again in this game, but like both tight ends
actually played football again, Like they actually run rounds where
they have a chance of the ball hitting them in
they's more than four feet downfield. Like it's it's I mean,
it's shameful what they did. It really is. It's ridiculous
that they wasted a half this kid's rookie year so
that they could look at Flacco for three or four
(23:14):
weeks and then look at you know, waste six weeks
with going Gabriel pretending that he's an NFL quarterback or
has a chance to be an NFL quarterback. Like it's really,
it's really kind of ridiculous because we should know more
about Shador Standers. They should know more about schor Sanders.
You know, you draft him where you draft him, and
maybe you don't want to play him at first, like okay,
(23:36):
but but when you're training Flacco and then you're going
to Gabriel, it's just it's it's ridiculous. But whatever, Uh
I don't know, guys like uh I don't know if
the Fanski will still be there. I don't know. I'm
sure Sanders will be there, but like, I don't know
if he's gonna be competing with a veteran. I don't
(23:56):
know if they're going to use the high draft they
want to on a quarterback again, Like, is Andrew Barry
definitely there or was the Podesta's departure a sign of
other moves to Comba. Don't know the answer to all
those questions, but he's definitely the best quarterback on their
roster and an even close.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
All right, Jay, how about this? We watched the Chiefs
lose last night. The Texans keep rolling their defense playing
at such a high level.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Are the Chiefs cooked for this season? Can they still
find their way back? Where are you on this?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I mean they're cooked to the Super Bowl contender like
they you know, I don't know, to just fall off
a cliff and you know, this game tonight is obviously
huge for them, and the Chargers hold on here or not?
I mean, that's that's kind of everything for for these guys.
Obviously they've got some head to head to head lost instacts,
(24:45):
head to head lost and suson. So that's gonna be
real tough at the time with those guys and any
sort of wild card, uh situation. I mean, they're they're
horribly flawed football team. They're they're U age, and their
their age in some spots and just their the lack
(25:09):
of ability in others. It's it's kind of shocking, how
what we're not that far removed from them winning seventeen
straight one score games, you know, and now they get
in a close and late situation and you just kind
of wait for them to melt down there. You know,
something to go wrong and guy to drop the ball
(25:29):
and got to knock the ball off his hands to
the other team, kick her to miss one. It's just
they find a myriad of ways to lose now, which
is the antithesis of what they've been.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, it's always been the one score game going the
other way back into the playoffs. So now we got
a live Miami Dolphins after they take down the Jets.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, well, look, I think they're keeping keeping your coach
and your quarterbacks employed down there, which if you're a
Dolphins fan, should probably make it. But I think it's
gonna run back with these guys, I really do. Yeah,
And I think they'll probably be pretty bad by thanks
killing again next year, and then the owner is going
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to be deep enough down the road where he'll be
paying two or sixty millions one more time, and everybody
will be gone by this time next year. But yeah,
they're winning games. And look, they've allowed seventeen or fewer,
I think in for of their last five games. Anthony
Weavers doing a really nice job with the defense, even
after they traded Jalen Phillips, And they're running the hell
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out of football. You know, that's really what it is.
I mean, too, is not doing anything special. He has
hit the occasional deep shot the wattle, which is more
than he did in the pass. But it's it's really
kind of old school, and it's been it's been really
effective the last four or five weeks. And look, could
they go into Pittsburgh and beat them Monday night? I
(26:54):
certainly think they could because they can run the ball
and that's been obviously a problem for Pittsburgh, and hell,
it's been a problem for Pittsburgh against teams in that division.
So but no, I don't think they're particularly close to
being a true contender. But I don't think many people
would want to come into that situation as a head
coach and have to inherit to and inherit all of that.
(27:17):
And you know he's McDaniel's kuy So I think the
book coming back honesty.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Washington Post one oh five seven The fan in Baltimore
wanna bet with us dot com Jason lockinfor a Jay
as always, Buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Man, have a great week. We'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You guys are the same.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Thank you, Jason.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Incredible drama. Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
If you like turnovers and big plays and field goals,
Monday Night was your night. The Chargers beat the Eagles
twenty two to nineteen. LA improves to nine and four,
Philadelphia drops to eight and five. Jalen Hurd is intercepted
for the fourth time of the night a ball he
tried to sneak in to Dotson that was better left,
(28:07):
not thrown. And the Eagles go down to defeat, and
now you're wondering can they even hold on to the
NFC East? Now Dallas is going. Man, if we had
just able to win if we get a beaten Detroit.
But there's still a lot. You're talking about four games left, man,
and the Eagles are just completely on vapors now, and
(28:28):
it's tough to watch the defending champs, who have such
a talented roster go the way they're going. But luckily,
Mike Harmon, I can solve all the eagles problems right now.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You can solve their problems. Yes, so you are the
figurative Jeff Goldbloom in this situation. We're off to see
the Wizard.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Are either gonna say like life finds Away like Jurassic Park. Oh,
we can do that too, life finds Away.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
He might have actually been construed as a good guy
at a grand scale there, alright, right, let me go otherwise, Hey, hey,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Let me go back to the Fly where he was
a good guy and a bad guy. There you go, Oh, Brundle,
Sid Brundle, Fly fuses with pod. Oh no, that was
kind of like if Harvey Kaitel was a dinosaur and
he was mad.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I'm sorry, tail, it hurts to his teammates through so
many bad picks. Now, sorry, how can I solve the Eagles? Problems.
Welcome to the Miami Dolphins. Wait what training with the Dolphins. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. The Dolphins hold the key to what the
(29:41):
Eagles need to do.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Dolphins, yesterday they thumped the Jets right a game in
which the Jets clearly weren't ready. I don't know if
they practiced all week. It's twenty one to nothing midway
through the first quarter, and suddenly CBS is running the stats.
When's the last time a team was up this big?
There a team scored twenty eight points in the first quarter.
It was absolutely a blow again. I don't feel like
(30:04):
the Jets knew anything that the Dolphins were trying to do.
And all the Dolphins did was just give the ball
to Devon eight chan and right a little bit of
Oli Gordon later on, and they just ran the ball
and ran over the Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
That's all they did was run the football. I saw
the stop stop, he's already dead. Guy way too far.
It was really early too. I'm like, wait, yeah, eight
minutes to go in the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Game was over, right, But this is about the Dolphins.
The Dolphins who started out one and six, it was over.
McDaniel was getting fired to it was going to be
on a new team. It was about as bad as
it could be for Miami because everything was coming apart.
It was going to be a new regime in next year.
Everything was going to be new. Now what's Miami done?
(30:54):
Now they're six and seven, all right, they have figured
out a way back into the back end of the
playoff chase. Now they've won four in a row and
five out of six.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Okay, what have they done?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
They did exactly what the Eagles need to do. And
it's a tough decision because, you know, the Dolphins is
kind of easy because look, we're terrible in one and six,
Eagles are the champs. The Dolphins went from we are
a high octane offense with Waddle and Tyreek Hill and Tua.
We still believe in Tua even though you know they don't. Yeah,
Johnny Smith with eighty eight ago, Oh yeah, once upon
(31:29):
a time, you know, and we have you know, and
a Chan's a great running back and we can you know,
he's part of what we have going on. But we
are going to be a high octane offense going up
and down the field. Well, what happened, Tyreek Kill got
hurt and Mike McDaniel, I give I give the guy
credit because now not only he saved his career at Miami,
he saved to his career in Miami, he saved their season.
(31:50):
He decided, we need to change who we are. We're
not gonna win that way, because they weren't gonna win
that way anyway. Before Tyreek Hill got hurt. You could
see the TUA that the Dolphins got figured out. As
good as they were fifteen months ago, they got figured
out we need to become a run first football team.
And for a Miami Dolphin team that the you know,
(32:11):
their hallmark has always been we're throwing the football, right,
no matter what kind of situation, whatever kind of team
they have, they're always a team that throws the football. No,
we are going to become a ball control team. We
have the horses offensively to do this. And two was
going to become a game manager. And he can still
make plays once in a while, which he did right.
He made the big throw for a touchdown in the
(32:32):
first quarter yesterday, made a couple of throws at Jalen Waddle.
But this was a Dolphins team that ran for two
hundred and eighty yards and a chan before he left.
He could have gone back in the game, but McDaniel
said there was no reason to because you.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Have to worry about it. If they were running all
over the.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Jets, didn't matter who was running with us. Ricky Williams
could have been running the football. He's fifty years old,
and we would have been able to have this kind
of success against the Jets. That's all we did. Right,
Jalen Wrights, you're leading rusher. Yesterday he didn't get a
carry until the second quarter. Ran for one hundred yards. Right,
he had ninety two Yead Gordon had seventeen in a touchdown.
This is what the Dolphins did. They turned themselves into
(33:07):
a ball control We're gonna run the football first, and
we're taking our identity and we're changing it and we're
changing from the throw first team that we are to
this hey pinball team. We're gonna light up the scoreboard.
And look what it's done. The Dolphins now have fought
their way back in the back end of contention. Right,
they're six and seven.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The Eagles need to.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Do the exact same. Sixty seven sixty seven, sixty seven, right,
six seven. I had to do it, and now the
Eagles need to do the same thing. We talked about
this earlier in the show What's Been, but for a
different reason the Eagles coming into this year, you knew
it wasn't gonna be a Saquon Barkley heavy year for
most part because Barkley with all the carries coming off
last year, you just don't have the same kind of year.
(33:49):
And Barkley has not been that guy. The Eagles have
tried for a long time to try to say, Okay,
Jalen Hurts is going to solve our problems. We are
going to throw the football up and down the field.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
We have the guys to do it right. That a
great tight end.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
We're gonna get aj Brown on track, DeVante Smith is
a great weapon. We're gonna find a way to do it. Man,
I don't care what. We are gonna find a way
to do it. And after all these weeks into week thirteen,
they still can't do it right. Different reports about how
much Jalen Hurts is liked or not liked on the team,
how much they don't like or don't like, like or
(34:22):
don't like each other, how much they like or don't
like Nick Siriani, whatever control Nick Sirianni has with the
team with the with the offense when they throw the football,
maybe or maybe not. Jalen Hurts is changing plays and
and and going rogue. We had that report a couple
of weeks ago. However, you want to shake it, shake
it up. Going Jalen Hurts driven is not working. They
(34:43):
tried to make it work because you thought you had too. Well,
he's our quarterback, we're paying him. He's won a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Now this is he is. He is that good. But
it's not working.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
They give plenty of chances to do it. You have
to get back to being Saquon Barkley driven. Now It's okay, Saquon.
We haven't had the same kind of workload we gave
you last because we've been a different team and we
know that you're not that guy. But now that we're
into December, that's who you have to be. That's who
we have to be. They have to be Saquon Barkley driven.
And what did they do tonight? They gave the ball
(35:12):
to Saquon Barkley a lot, had the big touchdown run.
If you're Saquon Barkley driven, I can buy back in
the on the Eagles because their roster is just that talented.
The rest of the offense and defensively, if they can
become more of a team like the Dolphins where Hurtz
becomes a game manager and you're Saquon Barkley driven, then
I can believe in you because I know I've seen
(35:33):
Barkley do it. And after having not and after having
a first twelve or thirteen weeks where not as many carries,
you're as fresh as you're gonna be at this point,
and Barkley running up and down the sideline after that
big fifty yard touchdown run. Okay, let's be Saquon Barkley driven.
What did the Eagles not do in the rest of
the fourth court in overtime? Give the ball to Saquon Barkley,
(35:53):
and what happened? You have Jalen Hurts coming off a
no touchdown for interception performance and Saquon Barkley running for
one hundred yards the big go ahead touchdown. If this
doesn't tell you we have to change our philosophy and
change who we are, nothing else does. No scores four
picks for Jalen Hurts, one hundred yards and a touchdown
for Barkley. If they are Barkley driven the rest of
(36:15):
the way. I will buy back in on the Eagles.
I will get back into them being a team that
can cause damage in the playoffs, because there's no great
team anywhere, not in the NFC, not in the AFC.
I will buy back in. But this is the game
that shows you they have to do it, because you see, Hey,
if the Eagles keep trying to tread this and go
on this line of yeah, we're gonna throw the football
a ton and still try to make it work with
(36:35):
Hurts and Brown and DeVante Smith, You've tried it way
too much. It's not working to be the offense you
were last year because Barkley covered a lot of issues
last year, covered a lot of problems for the Eagles.
Still had problems offensively last year, but Barkley running for
two thousand yards, you're able to cover up a lot.
Usually it's a quarterback that covers up a lot of ills.
Barkley coming in the personality that he was. Everybody loves
Saquon Barkley. It was a great moment in time. Eagles
(36:58):
have to draw back on that formula, and I'll buy
back in.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, We've talked a lot about the continuity, consistency, leadership
in the locker room, all of those things with Jay Glazer,
Me and Cosell on Sunday mornings a little bit. And
you and I certainly have tossed this one back and
forth like a medicine ball in a big workout, oftentimes
trying to figure out exactly what we're doing here because
(37:21):
you've had the injuries on the offensive line. Obviously you
lose Jason Kelsey. He's hanging out in the podcast land
with his multi million dollar deal in all and I'm
sure they wish he was back there as an anchor
and a locker room guy and all of that stuff
to kind of solidify. But we haven't seen the same
explosion off the line by the front five, right, so
(37:42):
we haven't had that. Jalen Hurts is right now in
half his yardage that he had rushing the football last year.
His passing numbers very much in line with what he
put across for a full season and what he played
last year. Last year he had eighteen touchdowns against five picks,
basically at that same line at this point. Now he
goes over to the sixth pick with that game sealer.
(38:04):
But we watched them move the ball and actually commit
to Saint Kawan Barkley. If we watched that over the
course of the season as well, you had a number
of games where he didn't get to double digit touches.
It hasn't been as active in the passing game, but
certainly from a rushing perspective, they haven't tried to set
up balance. Hell I would have excused it even if
they brought in Tank Bigsby, who they traded for somebody
(38:26):
else had tried to run the ball, but they haven't
even done that. Hurts tonight four carries eight yards. Right,
you're not even using what was a big part that
helped make him super a little bit more, especially kind
of like we're watching the diminished versions physically of Lamar
Jackson in some of these other quarterbacks. Right, you're seeing
more scrambles from Patrick Mahons, still seeing the Superman cape
(38:48):
come out for Josh Allen, but for Jalen Hurts, we're
not seeing that, and not even the tush push being
utilized to the same level of effectiveness. Remember the Bears
stole the ball from him, but final possession, we kept
looking at each other just shrugging our shoulders because he's
trying to push down field. You got that big completion
to Smith, got the big sideline route to Goddard, no
(39:10):
calls to put the ball back in Saquon Barkley's gut.
You got that defense that's been on the field a
ton all night, and you finally have a little bit
of an advantage where you're winning that trench warfare and
you don't go to that instead pushing the ball down
the field. Great play by the defenders, no question about it.
But for the rest of this season, you're looking at
(39:32):
a schedule that's really advantageous for them. Only the Saints
and Giants have lesser quality of opponents. You've got a
game against the Bills and week to week we watched them,
still a top ten scoring defense, but other issues. And
then you have the Raiders and two games against the
whatever's left of the Commanders. Right at this point, I
don't even know. I guess Marcus Mariona comes back, so
(39:54):
they'll be winging the ball around. But it's that idea
of you've got a t terrible team and at whatever
you know, however you want to describe either of those
those squads with Buffalo as your only plus team still
on this and you could still go get it right.
It's still theirs for the taking in terms of the division.
But we're at going into week fifteen and still scratching
(40:18):
our heads going what are we doing? Look, and here's
the thing and here's why he can do it right.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Last year, Barkley three hundred and forty five carries, okay,
three forty five carries, and he caught thirty three passes
and then what he had in the playoffs. Right, it's
nearly five hundred touches from Barkley last year. Okay, he
needed some time, you know, you don't bounce back. Took
some time to heal, right, and he tells you, well,
you had to take a lot of time coming off
of that. Five hundred touches is a lot in this season.
(40:42):
Right now, with four games left, he's at one hundred
and ninety eight touches, so he is far behind his
pace of last year. So in theory, he should be fresher.
And I gotta tell you tonight, it didn't look like
he was running in mud. It didn't look like he
was someone who he looked like. He looked like a
guy that Okay, now it's say Kwon Barkley time when
he had that fifty two yard touchdown run. He splits
(41:03):
the defense and goes through and then he's on the sideline.
You could deal. That was the moment where the Eagles said, hey,
wait a minute, Saquon Barkley is back. He's our guy.
Now he's had a lot less carry. You look at
his numbers week to week. This is where he should
be fresh. Right, We're into early part of December and
there's you know, we have four games left and the
division's there for you. It's an easy it's honestly, I
(41:24):
think it's an easy call to make. I mean, really,
it's an easy call to make. And the because the
Eagles live in dysfunction. Man, it's of course, Hey, Jalen,
you're gonna be a game manager. Now, say Kuan, go ahead.
You're you're gonna get twenty five carries a game. Now,
that's been how we're gonna win games. Now we're gonna
control the football, We're gonna limit our turnovers. This is
what we're gonna do, right, Like, I mean, I think
it's a pretty easy decision to make.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Defense is against the run. Let's see, Commanders are twenty ninth,
the Bills are twenty eighth Raiders. You can do whatever
you want on them, So it's a little.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
That could be a forfeit though, I mean maybe I
have thought child, that would be a forfeit. Maybe you
kick a field goal late. I don't know, and Raider
fans get mad.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Well your forfeit.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think you win to nothing. Right, You can look
at that scrorel of ten years now going Wow, what
a game that would have been safety to nothing. Wow,
what the defense must have been awesome
Speaker 4 (42:18):
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