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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Greetings, Welcome inside, be Friday, Happy night one of the
college football playoff. It's the Jason Smith Show with my
bass friend Mike Harmon. Let's get it on live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios, where I'll tell you it
looked like Michigan was thirty some odd minutes away from
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Kaylin de Boor and now they might be thirty minutes
away from Kenny Dillingham. That's how fast it changes. A
seventeen to nothing Oklahoma lead is erased with a block
punt and a pick six, and we are at halftime
at seventeen a piece, with some curious coaching and penalty
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flags being thrown at the end of the first half, Mike,
we are picking up where we left off last night
with the Rams and the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, that's just it, right, just thinking about it as
that is replaying in the studio as I'm watching it.
Literally the weird odd disputed two point conversion play literally
just got replayed on this television. And when thinking about
this first half, right, You've got the punter going and
he drops the ball, ends up in a block, you
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get the miscommunication with Matier, ends up with a pick six,
and then you mentioned the coaching thing where we've got
a penalty in the final minute, Like when you're at
youth soccer and they tell you you got to get
those umbrellas back off the sideline.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I need my space, man, I need my space.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So we had a penalty there that gave Oklahoma in
theory a little bit of an extra chance. Nothing came
of it, but certainly there was a delay and a
lot of arguing and disputing, and but the fact that
we have a tie game at halftime, shocker. I came
in and seventeen to nothing and I'm like this, get
this looks like it's getting ugly fast.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, you're singing happy, You're singing Hey, you're singing hell
to the victors at this point. And Calen de Bori's
coach in the second half, wearing a Michigan hat. Yeah,
let's go. I'm gonna be here after the game anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Could they s prompose one on his head in there?
They got some wizards in the technical department there.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I thought it was real. It was really bad form
for the halftime interview with Holly row and she asked him, Hey,
what do you think to do in the second half,
and he said it. She goes, thanks coaching, he said,
go blue at the end. I don't think you needed
to do to I mean, come on, man, you can't
do you gotta just you know, you're coach in Alabama.
You can't do that.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And he did that smile where you got the little
gleam in his teeth right with the wink, I mean
that whole thing. You know what's interesting is they also
have a We were talking about it a little bit
last night, you and I. The second broadcast ESPN two
is the Oklahoma broadcast. Guess what I was listening to
is things unfolded in the second half. Wow, that got
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odd fast.
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And when you get a big pick six to this
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game up at seventeen at halftime, you get to be
the play of the day. Bama putting eight men up
initially now dropping.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Back a pick a pick at the forty five to
the thirty, to the twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
To the ten to the five touchdown, Savey and Brown
takes it to the house.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
BAMA changed its coverage and the Sooners threw it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right to us. There was on the Battle Radio network.
They threw it right to us. He's not wrong. I mean,
that's why he caught it on the sideline. They threw
it right to us, and I caught it and I
handed it to another guy that could actually run it
back on the field. They threw it right to it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But also akin to what we saw last night in
that mutant Thursday night football game. Remember Sam Darnold's second
pick when the defensive lineman just backed off and it's like, hey,
look what I found. Same thing here. It's like he
MATERI throws it thinking he's got the out route. Nope,
receivers going up. So the defensive bags like thank you
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and started sprinting back the other way.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Just absolute chaos, bedlum. The crowd shots.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I mean, I wonder what song you pick as the
appropriate response to that, because they stayed on the crowd
for a good three minutes with all the shock and
fear suddenly taking over that stadium.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Now, would you want to talk about this crazy penalty again? Stuff?
You hardly ever? You know, I'm thinking back. The last
time I can think about something like this was I
think it was the what the ninety four NFC championship
game where the Cowboys were getting killed by the forty
nine ers and they were coming back and they were
forcing the Niners into a punt situation, and Barry Switzer
got some kind of crazy penalty for yelling at a
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ref or running into a ref and it gave the
Niners a first down and they scored a touchdown and
the Cowboys didn't win. But near the end of the
first half, you had Alabama and Oklahoma again tied at seventeen.
Alabama looked like they were going to get the football back.
They had forced a fourth down, they called time out
with twenty five seconds left on the clock. They were
gonna make Oklahoma punt of the again, because you know,
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when you get a block punt, you're gonna make that
team punted as many times a ken the rest of
the game. Except the flag goes on the field and
you see Caitlin de Bord just lose it because the
penalty is sideline interference. Somehow someone ran into a referee,
and you're wondering, Okay, what the hell happened, And you
know Chris Fowler and Kirkirbstreet to say, we're gonna get
it for you're gonna get it for you. It is
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forty yards downfield, right, And I'm glad you mentioned the
game last night because this plays into something big in
sports the last couple of days. So forty yards downfield,
the official is backing up on the sideline. He's in
his territory and he backs into someone on the sideline
and the flag goes up right away. Fifteen yard penalty.
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And Oklahoma has a chance now with twenty two seconds
to go, because they're near midfield, maybe they get in
field goal range. Now they didn't wind up getting into
the field goal range. We'll get to that. But here's
a penalty sideline interference that is called. And they showed
the replay and you see the official he's backing way,
backing away and he runs into a guy. Now he's
forty yards away from the play, and this is a
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non call. This is a non call. But this gets
into why when pukin Aakua says refs are human after all, right,
they just want to be on TV. They want they
want you know, they're texting their buddies to show Hey,
this is why. You know, look at me, I just
called a penalty here. We told you the other night
it's not about the referees want to be on TV.
But the referees want to want to put their impart,
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their will on the game. They want to be heard,
they want to be a voice. Referees sometimes come out
there like the two teams on the field. No, there's
three teams. It's a two teams playing and there's us.
And I tell you from every from every youth coach
game that I could referees and and umpires want to
be a part of it. And and they they want
to put their stamp on the game. And this is
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what Pukinakua means when he says refs are human. This
is a referee backing down the field, runs into a guy,
doesn't get knocked down, you know, gets knocked off his
off his balance a little bit, but he stands up
and he throws that flag up in the air like
ah no, I don't know if he warned the sideline
before now, but this is something where you know what,
you kind of walk away from this, But the guy
got emotional and he wanted to be wanted to punish
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the sideline for this, so I threw the flag and
now potentially it could have been a three point swing
or more, and you could tilt the power of the
game because you got mad that you ran into somebody
on the sideline. Now you're not supposed to right and
they should be out of the way. And you saw
the referees when they talked about it in the in
the booth and and hey, listen, that's the referees area.
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Now I understand that. I get that it's forty yards downfield.
It's a mistake. The referee didn't get injured. He decided
to get emotional, So I'm throwing the flag. This is
where I'm completely on board with pookin Akua when he
says referees want to do certain things, why they call
certain penalties. They're human. After all, that was an emotional
decision at the refmade. And it's easily a thing that
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you could just say, hey listen, final warning, warning, whatever
it is. You tell the coach that happens again, it's
a fifteen yard penalty. Again. I don't know what's going on.
You know, on the if this happened before earlier in
the game and the referee warned them. But this is
the college football player. If you have forty yards downfield, man,
nobody came to the game to watch you throw that flag.
But yet I want to be part of it. I
want to throw a flag and I want people to
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know what that guy because I was embarrassed because I'm
doing my job and I run into somebody. I'm gonna
be a highlight and people were laughing at me behind
my back, and I heard the sideline laughing because I
ran into the guy. So yeah, so I'm gonna throw
a flag. You gotta be better than that. You have
to be one hundred percent better than that. That's a
non flag throw. But yet here are the officials. This wife,
Pukunakua said it, and I can't disagree with him.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, I just wonder if there had been a warning,
And we never really got clarity in that regard as
the broadcast was going forward, right, but we have the
incidents and the rules. Analyst as he got impassioned about it,
you've endangered me.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You've endangered me.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
By being on the sideline, which I don't think he's wrong.
I mean, because one if the guy takes a false step,
then all of a sudden, hey, we're we're down a sideline.
Ref because he took a you know, it took an
a c L because of a bad plant.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I mean, I got a side with the referee on
this one. As long as you look at you player, hater,
you've gone through the protocols again. We're wondering about the warning, right,
You're supposed you had a sideline warning.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I still think with the warnings you could have not
thrown the flag on that. It's not about you, it's
it didn't affect the play. It didn't affect. It wasn't
done maliciously. It wasn't done where the guy put his
foot out. Hey watch, it's some of the trip the
guy going down the field. It's one of those. It's
a big sideline.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Pay attention away, pay attention to where you are. You
gotta knowles, Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But okay, so you think that was worth it that
if if that's the three points that decides the game,
that's worth it for that, for that penalty throne, Well,
I can't, I can't.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I can't officiate that way. That's not the way it's
supposed to be officiated.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
No, no, it's not everything.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
No no, no, no, no, But I know, but you're not
doing that as an official. You shouldn't be saying, is
this going to affect the game out final outcome in
the game.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's either a penalty or it's not.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I don't think that's a side.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
That's fine, but by the letter at the law, it's
a penalty. Well you go look and to throw the flag.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Anytime a guy goes down, and if there's a guy
near him, he could say, I'm throwing a flat you
were in my way, but they.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Creeping up on the sideline because he wants a better
vantage point. You know, go and buy a ticket in
the fifth row.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Look at that. Referees are not going to call in
into the show and say we love you, Mike, just
so you know. I don't know the reason you're not
gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
All I'm saying is you've got to pay attention. If
you see the guy backpenally, get the hell out of
the way. Otherwise potentially there is chaos. And I get it,
it's forty yards downfield. They didn't throw a forty yard pass.
But in the end, look, no harm, no foul. But
it's certain because right they get nothing out of it
that they get the extra twenty five seconds runs off
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because they had no timeouts left, and they called a
bad play. How about calling the bad play where a
guy's got no chance of getting out of bounce. How
about we held at the coaching staff for that.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well we'll get to that in a second. But I
just want you. I want to add because this is
if you're if you're trying to get into the NFL
officiating program or a collegeable fan, I'll write you a
letter of recommendation if you want to. Because I could
see you in the jaunty hat and striped outfit, GoF
I could see you out there running up and down
the field trying to do that to get.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
In My knees would not take that. I'd be that
slow guy like that just.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Hurts, okay, like even even the last couple of days,
like my body ain't felt right.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I'm not sick, but like everything's sore.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And you'd have to be the replay official.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You'd be the I could I could be the rules analysts, like, hey,
that dope's got to get out of the way.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Wait wait, wait, rule that that's my sideline. Get out
of the way, sir.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
We don't call players on the other team dopes. That's
not something I don't care he was a dope. I
don't give a crap.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I would be equal when calling both sides dope if
they did something to affect the integrity in sanctity of
the game and put my officiating crew in danger.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Mike Harmon standing up for the referees here, somebody's got
to Uh. Now you bring up the other part of
this is it didn't turn into any any points because Oklahoma,
you talked about the play call. They don't get out
of bounds, they have the ball at midfield, they have
a chance to throw a hail mary. They are they
could they had a time out or to do whatever
you want to do if you want to call time
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out right away and try to throw a quick five
yard out so you can get your kicker out there,
And instead they just let the time go to halftime.
I felt like I'm watching Aaron Glenn coach this game,
like he's the guy not throwing hail mary's in the
first half of the season for the Jets, when yeah,
we got the ball at midfield, final play the first half,
let's just go to halftime. Let's not take a chance
to score. Might not that you weren't going to score,
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but you know what, you got the ball at midfield,
throw it up at half to try to get points there?
What are you doing you you're doing the other team
a favor. Oh you're gonna go to halftime. Great, Hey,
we're happy with that. Call time out, throw a hail Mary,
or call a time out. Try to throw something really
that takes like three seconds, but gage of five yards
off the sideline, and it said it was now we're
going to half time.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You got the guy coming out in his short pants,
big left left leg.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
He just won the girls are award. Come on, sand
Down didn't even get a chance.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
At the end was back like that was worse to
me than the official calling the penalty. I mean that
was like face that made sense. Okay, by the letter
of the law, that's a foul. This is just coaching
malfiss at the end of a half.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
How are you not screaming on the sideline, Hey, let's uh,
let's call time out. Hey, let's call time out, coach,
coach time out? How does nobody call it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
There's even in the booth they're like they're letting the
clock run. Like there was just these pauses as they're
going back and forth. I was waiting for the the
picture and picture of the two of them looking at
each other with their arms stretched out as if to say,
what the hell are we watching here?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I mean, are there are there some analytics I don't
know about that says throwing a hail mary at the
end of the first half is not the right thing.
I mean, that's the only thing football karma.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I mean, I don't know that it's a direct disney
that you could both like the teams that execute a
hail mary at the end of a half go on
to lose most of the I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I really there's got to be some kind of analytics
thing that I just thought, Oh yeah, yeah, so that
this is why we don't throw hill Mayor's at the
end of the first half. The analytics say that your
percentage of winning goes down. Oh really it does. Yeah,
because potentially if you get a touchdown, that would just
upset the other team and they would come out in
the second half with more energy. So yeah, we've done that,
look and saw that that's actually happened. Like, I don't understand,
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I'd be really Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
The curiosities of the college football bowl season with a.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Coaching job potentially on the line. I mean, there's so
much to it. It's great. Man, What a Friday night.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oklahoma could be a little at Michigan could be less
than thirty minutes away from Kaylin de Borr or Kenny Dillingham. Guys,
a lot of interested people watching this game. Early in
the third seventeen seventeen, Oklahoma has just failed to confirm
on third and six, they'll be punting in theory to
Alabama because we know Oklahoma's had some trouble. A catchable
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ball is dropped in the middle field, a little bit
behind the receiver, but still should have been caught, should
have been a first down. So Alabama getting the football
back in a game where it looked like they were
absolutely dead and buried seventeen. Nothing shocking their comeback here.
But then again, remember both of these teams, neither their
offenses have played well the last few weeks. They kind
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of been a couple of teams that maybe a little
bit on vapors. But we're getting an entertaining game. We
thought we could have seen something that was completely a blowout.
Instead we got a seventeen to seventeen game. Now, early
in the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You danced right up along the line of neither team
should be here. I can hear that trailing as you said, it's.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh man. So we got more on this coming up.
But it's a big football Friday as well. We're previewing
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Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Maybe Michigan's gonna wind up with Brent Venables at the
end of this game instead of Kaitlin de boor A.
A seventeen nothing Oklahoma lead not only is gone, but
now they trail Alabama twenty four seventeen, Ty Simpson. Simpson A,
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I'll remember that name. A thirty yard touchdown pass to
Brooks make it a twenty four to seventeen lead. Now
for Alabama eleven and a half to go in the
third quarter. Now Simpson, two touchdowns on the night. Hey,
I think Michigan fans will be happy, and listen, we'll
take either one of these guys either way. And if
Venables blows this big lead and we all right, man, okay,
we'll take it. That'll be fine. He got into the end.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Zone and he started scrolling. Brooks was here in the
corner of the end zone.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So we'll have more on this game. Oklahoma trying to
get back in at first play mateir is sacked everything
coming up Alabama right now. But time to break down
all the big news in the NFL. Joining us now
on the hot line another big Football Friday. Nobody better
than Longtime fell inside or check him out in the
thirty third team. He is a Pro Football Hall of
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Very Good voter, and he has written letters about how
the referees just want to be on TV and that's
all they're good for. It is Jason Cole, Jay Cole,
what's happening man?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Where's my intro music?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well, we thought it would be really serious. You would
say something fun.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Yeah, I'm in music.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Okay, okay, I got.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
A hang out. Here we go, Here we go, hang on,
and here comes Jason.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
I can't perform without my intro music, right, I'll do
it for you.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We'll do it again. I got afraid. Here we go,
hang on, hang on on, here we go, hang on.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
That's not it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now, Mary I got I got it? Mary I got here?
It is?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Here?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Is it right here? Hanging joining us now in the
Hotline thirty third team, Pro Football Hall of Very Good voter.
Oh As checks rock. It is Jason Cole. Deep deep deep.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Deep deep.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Deep deep deep.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Actually we should start playing the theme from Barney Miller.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Barty Miller's They Done. You have to explain the millennials
to party. Miller ones, why do.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Guys you get some deep base followed by some horns
we're in let's go.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Yeah, Harvin, you got a game this on Saturday, Saturday?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
How do you believe the Packers' injury report they list
eighteen guys.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Somebody must have asked questions about that just to just
and they're now messing with the reporters. When they list
eighteen guys, it's because the coach is fed up with
a reporter asking the name questions. I mean, I mean
that's usually what it is. It's like, oh, you want
to know about that guy? Here, We'll list everybody who
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has even a hangnail. That's what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So that's a Belichick thing to do. He used to
do that a long time ago, like ninety to twenty
five people on the injured lits because somebody pissed them off.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, it's also and Ben Johnson and either they love
each other or they hate each other. We haven't quite
figured it out yet.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
They There ain't no love there. That's not that's that's
not love. That's that's like getting close to the Schwartz
Harbaugh relationship.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Awesome okay, and you're what's your deal man? What's your
deal man? What's your deal?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
That's the best ever?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Wait, so what what's better? What's better the Schwartz Harbaugh
relationship or Pukaakua and officials? Which relationship is better? Right now?
Speaker 6 (21:39):
It's hab versus Schwartz because you've got that for that
whole exchange. What's your deal man?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Like yeah, Like Pokah's like, don't don't go here, like
this is this is silly and you're making stuff up
and not making calls because they just want to get
on television. That's not what it is. I mean, I just,
you know, some stuff that I don't believe. Yeah, are
some of those guys like trying to get the next
(22:05):
TV gig? Maybe, but I you know, I just don't
see that. But that's not what I think. Guys are
just they're legitimately trying to do their job, and it's
a complex job that the league continues to make harder
and harder. And the worst thing that the league does
is they make those guys think way too much. And
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that's why you get really bad efficient because they think
too much instead of just react to make calls. So
enough of that the pokod thing. This doesn't really impress me.
It's taking shots. It's taking shots at people who are,
for the most part, trying their best and have an
impossible job. That's that's what it's doing. And it's also
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it's so easy to take shots at officials like that's
that's like shooting fish in a barrel. It's like, Oh,
I'm going to really go out on a limb and
I'm going to the side officials. Congratulations, therapy you've done
with every you know, guy watching a television on Sunday
does eighty five times when he goes on Twitter. Yeah,
(23:10):
you're a big man. Congratulations dude.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's like when you see in the magazine's stars, they're
just like us. Look, they pump their own gas, they
go to Costco. They're just like, Hey, Pookas could just
like I can criticize the official.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's what he's doing, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I'm not impressed by that criticism. I mean, I you know,
I know why he's getting a lot of attention for it,
but that cracism doesn't impress me. Like, if you want
to come up with a criticism of how the league
handles officiating, and you want to say we made the
job way too complex and we're begging for inconsistent officiating
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because of the way that the NFL does ask those
guys to do their job. I'm all ears, but just
you know, like ripping guys because you think they want
to get on television. Now, I'm not buying that. Sorry,
that's that's that's old hat. Yeah, that's that's not that's
not thoughtful analysis. So but whatever, he's a great players.
I like watching him.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Pluge only a twenty five thousand dollars Fine, so yeah,
let's I can't wait to follow more football players this
weekend on Twitter. But as a game, I mean, Matthew
Stafford and Sam Donald put on a show that.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Was pretty awesome. I got and what are the odds
of hitting three straight two pointers? I mean, I like
to pull that out. And that's why I don't congratulates
the Seattle right and hell of a win, way to
come back, way to stay in it. But if you
walk away from that game, if you're a Seattle fan saying, oh,
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we're clearly better than the Rams, no you're really not.
Because for basically, for the better part of fifty to
fifty two to fifty five minutes. They I'm going to
aid you pretty well, and then all of a sudden thing,
you know, you get the punt return, you get you know,
you know, you get a four and out, you know,
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three and out really quick quick. That's great, But you
know you didn't. I mean, the odds of what you
just did to win that game are so long that
that's like the one out of twenty times. You know,
if you play that game in that circumstance and you
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play at twenty different times, there's one of those games,
maybe even less, that the Seattle wins. And that's the
one that happened last night. So he gratulations is great victory. Yes,
they're in first place if they outplay again, I'm picking
the Rams, and I'm picking the Rams probably by ten points.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
NFL insider Jason Colark, guest Jason Smith, Mike Carmon, Life
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. All right, he usually
does this for me, so I'll do it for him.
Is my partner in crime? Mike Harmon gonna be happy
tomorrow night after the Packers Bears go? Or is he
going to be unhappy after the Packers Bears game?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I think It's similar to Dan Gambell if he wins
the division and he just runs naked down eight mile.
I think Harmon Harmon led down the Miracle Mile in
Los Angeles, and I mean, it's not the first guy
who'd run down the Marraica.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I wouldn't stand out here. It's not the first guy to.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Know you were not that probably it's not original. But
if you ran all the way from there to the
Santa Monica Peer naked, that would be quite something. Although
you definitely get arrested. But yeah, like you know, the
cops might catch you somewhere along the line on that one.
And even in Los Angeles. No, Yeah, I'm going I'm
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going Miracle Mile, naked naked run down Miracle Mile. That's
why I'm betting on that tomorrow. That's that's that's that's
what I think is going to happen. I think that
in Vegas, odds should be on Harmon running naked down
Miracle Mile.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
There we go, Harmon, you got to do it now
because Jason Coles said the Bear wind tomorrow night naked
down Miracle Mark.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yeah. I like. I like the Bears in a regular
season situation where scoring is going to be up and
defense is not know, defense is not as emphasized as
a low to emphasize during the playoffs, right and now
with Micah out, there's not really anybody on that defensive
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line who you think can really chase Caleb down and
make it hard for him. The problem I have with
the Bears when you're talk about the playoffs and this
is just for this year and we'll see, if you know,
if Caleb gets it more under controls as he goes
well with Ben Johnson, there is still that element of
degree of difficulty that Caleb Williams plays within. It's sort
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of like the guy who's you know, like on the
high dive and he says he's going to do what
like fifteen twists before he falls into the pool and
stuff like that. Like Caleb wants still wants to play
that game at a critical moment, and he's good at it.
Right Like when when he's you know, running full speed
to his writer, you know, whatever the closest you can
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get to full speed, Ryan goes right and then firing
back down field, like that's really a breath taking throw
that's really fun to watch. And even when he throws
his left, he's not what Aaron Rodgers going to his left,
or even you know, Justin Herbert going to his left.
But he's pretty good, right so, you know, he's good
at making the acrobatic eye flying, you know, trapeze artists throw.
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The problem is that he's in love with making that throw.
Still a little too much for my liking. In a
playoff game against a good team with a good defense
that will say, Okay, we'll allow you to keep trying
to do that and either you're not going to be
able to make the play because we're we're better at
playing defense here, or you're going to make a mistake
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and we'll capitalize on it. That's that's where I am
with the Bears when you talk about playoffs.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That's at
Jason Cole sixty two. He is the one responsible for
potentially losing a naked miracle. Miles Harmon on the Public
Tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Harmon, Harmon, do it.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Let's go good, Jacob, have a great weekend, man. We'll
talk to you later. One playoff game down. It was
a thriller, twists and turns. Alabama beats Oklahoma thirty four
twenty four. They move on to the next round of
the college football playoff. Oklahoma goes home.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
So many big shockers in this game, but we talked
about one of the big things a few minutes ago.
Sandell is the Gros Award winner best kicker in the country.
He misses a thirty six yard field goal and is
short on a fifty one yard field goal in the
last four and a half minutes, which helps Alabama clinch
the win. And we mentioned this guy a few minutes ago,
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and I said, what does Pete Fewtech say college kickers?
Chat Chat Chaw joining us now on the hotline is
the owner, editor, proprietor of the best website for college
football on the Internet, college Footballnews dot com. All the previews,
all the picks, all the prognostications. Chat shot Shaw. What's
happened at Pete few Tech?
Speaker 7 (30:23):
I know, you know all these guys. All I kept
thinking was like, first of all, that kick, that first
kick was way close, Like, I get it, you're supposed
to hit that, But that looked awfully good for a while,
and I got the right shot, and then I guess,
in the modern age, not being able to hit a
fifty one yarder, I mean, I know, they're not the
NFL guys who are bombing them some seventy and stuff.
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But it's fifty one yard. You're you're, you know, you're
well paid college kicker. You should be able to get
it there.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well, I feel like, well, I think it's probably in
his head the first kick. But honestly, that first kick,
like I get that. Okay, it's not reviewable because it's
above the post, but like, okay, that's kind of where
we need reviews. But I think if they called it good,
nobody would have complained. They could have called that kick
either way and it would have been okay, well, he
barely got it through and it's now a one score game.
They could have gone either way on that and nobody
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would have said anything.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
But they got it right. It looked like because it
did go over the top. It's a weird rule. And
the whole kicking thing to begin with is kind of
a bizarre, you know, twist we've kind of accepted as
the norm, but it's kind of an unnaturally strange thing that,
you know, here's this game that comes down to this
guy who looks like he's twelve years old and you know,
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you know, kicks it and the ball goes one foot
the other way and all of a sudden everything changes.
But that's that's the game, and all right, kind of
weird one. But they weren't even if he nails that,
they're not winning it. So uh, it's look, this was
a strange one. Like I I don't know what where
this Bama team has been, and I don't know if
it's an indictment on the coaching staff or the talent
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or the team or just that the SEC is just
kind of eh. And this is an SEC versus the
SEC game. This Spama team over the last forty minutes
hadn't been there for two months. I mean they they
had no problems with the Tennessee team, but like they
didn't play this well all year. I mean they I
saw the Florida State game from the start they had
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you know, they beat Georgia, but that what they didn't
perform like this, that was just kind of a okay,
back and forth. They pulled it off. But to do this,
I mean, to totally adjust and dominate and then for
Oklahoma to turtle like it did, I mean, it's Mojo
completely up the building. After three straight plays, the dropped pass,
the Sean Landetta and then the pick six, I mean,
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and then that was it didn't have anything else. They
had no answers after that. It was the strangest twist
of a college football game I can remember in a long, long.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Time, fantastic reference going all the way back to the
eighties with the Lendetta uh Pete. You also talked about
it being a foot difference, you know, in that field goal.
That's about all they averaged on the ground, both teams.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
What that all?
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Yeah, it's it's kind of odd that, okay that you know, Okay,
Matier was the only one running, But like it was
so strange because you could tell that John Mattier was
finally healthy. He was slinging it, he was throwing well,
and he looked confident, he was making play. He's a
baller's baller, he's their best runner, and he looked healthy enough.
And you know, again, I guess the part of the
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point was, all right, you're up to seventeen nothing and okay,
you're up seventeen seven and you're moving the ball. Well,
there's no way that defense, which has been dominant all year,
and with all their healthy pass rushers there, we're going
to you know not be able to hold up. And
then again I think the pick six screwed them up.
They'd screwed it their heads. That drops past where Matier
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could have run for forty yards. But I get it,
the guy was wide open. You throw it down the field,
the guy's supposed.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
To catch it.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
He's getting nil money too. And then the weird punt.
It just seemed like, all of a sudden, like the
mojo just completely shifted and Oklahoma was utterly incapable of
getting it back.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
It was.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
It was just like they forgot how to play and
they lost it.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So Pete Klein de Boor wins when it looked like
it's seventeen to nothing, he would be saying go blue
in his postgame press conference, So, uh, what is Maybe
maybe bred Venables is now available, But like, what does
Michigan do now? Because clearly it looks like, hey, Caylen
de Bor is gonna wind up stay at Alabama with
a win, moving on in the playoff. He's got confidence
and the nil backers, I'm sure I have confidence in him.
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What do they do now?
Speaker 7 (34:31):
I never thought the Bor is going and I always
kind of thought it was an odd thought to begin with.
That Oh well, Michigan's just gonna get the Alabama coach. Like,
that's not really how this works. That's I said. I
said to you guys last week, there's no name that's
too crazy, but that one was. I I just never
saw why you would go, like, if Alabama doesn't want
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him in Michigan does or you just think you can
get the Michigan head coach who just played his team
played in the SEC champion tip into the College Football Playoff.
That's not how the pecking order of the world works.
But I still think they're going to go with someone
who's relatively boring, you know, Tommy Reeze or somebody that
I still kind of shocked that Jeed Fish wasn't more
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of a part of this. I thought he would be
kind of an instant yoink from Washington, but that didn't happen.
So it'll be an interesting call. There are lots of
you know, interesting guys out there. It's just as you know,
how creative do they want to get with this? So
at the moment, I think they're just trying to get
their stuff together and get their house in order, and
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then they'll try to figure out, oh yeah, we should
probably hire a football coach at some point too, above
all the other problems they're having within the internal you know,
athletic department stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Right now, no question about we got three games tomorrow,
beat the heavyweight battle Miami and Texas, A and M
A and M three point favorites, forty eight year total,
and now all eyes on Carson Beck and what Miami
has been able to do they get in and and
all the speculation and A and M on the other side,
their schedules come up quite a bit in the last
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week or two.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
So how does this play?
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I still going with Miami. It's see my gut inta. I.
Then again, I thought Oklahoma would roll with these, and
I was hearing very smug if you're about the twenty
minsters more than usual. And then yeah, I I but
this one is a harder, harder one because I don't
buy the sec. I do think Miami's better, but Miami's
not great on the road this year. However, They've got
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so much NFL talent, and it's kind of hard after
you watch these just incredibly awful Bowl games so far,
just horrible.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Me.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You like the ball game so far? You're a big fan.
I can tell Okay, last year they were great.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Last year, all these weird, you know, funky little boutique,
you know, hipster underground Bowl games were actually really kind
of good. This year they're just bad. It's bad entertainment.
It's just bad. And then you forget oh yeah, the
college football playoffs. This is where you get real teams,
good teams, and they're all trying really hard. You know,
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they all have their fully opt outs happening here. These
are these are the guys. So I think this is
where Miami just sort of turns it up a few
notches and again not totally sold to Texas A and
m is all that great. Remember Texas A and m
they A off to Texas, didn't play Alabama, Georgia, Old
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miss or Oklahoma. I think they're missing someone else big too,
But like, they didn't play all the good teams this year,
so I'm kind of curious to see it. But I'm
not as strong on this one as I usually am
on stuff. But I'm gonna stick with Miami call because
it just seems like the narratives like, Okay, you got in,
you know, earn this.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Win this all right, beat the other games tomorrow to
Lane and Old Miss look ole Miss is playing on
emotion James Madison and Oregon. Anyway, we don't see Oregon
and ole Miss moving on in either of these games.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Yeah, there's a huge way we can see this. They
not see this happening because no one's gonna watch it. Like, literally,
no one's going to see this happening. Everyone's gonna watch
their fantasy teams or you know, they're gonna see They're
gonna sit there and watch the Eagles Commanders, and they're
definitely gonna watch Packers Bears, and you know, maybe it's
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you know, if multiview works, you can you work it
out where you can get the both games. But I
don't know anyone who's gonna willingly watch these two games.
I mean, you'll tune in just to see if it's interesting.
I kind of think I could see either way happening
with the old Miss Tilinger, where ole Miss just gets
way tight and they're just like, oh, we're gonna prove everything,
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and they just play bad and they start turning the
ball over, or I could see them being like, oh,
screw you, ling Kiff and then come out and hang
sixty four on the board. So I'm gonna go with
the ladder a little bit. I think, I actually do
think to Lane's gonna hang around for a while and
then ole Miss will finally pull away and cover and
do all that fun stuff later. But I think I
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think that might be a little bit of a battle.
I will be floored if Oregon doesn't come out and
just put it to just be insulted by this game.
From all indications there, it's been quite kind of quiet
that there's still a little upset over the way they
played and got rocked in that Rose Bowl last year
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when they were the number one overall seed and you know,
the Ohio State came in.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
And just took it to them.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
That's that's an embarrassing thing. That's kind of a motivating factor.
And I don't I think you're gonna see one of
those tone setting type of things happen where it might
not just be explosive and but it'll be methodical and
I to balance too sharp, too good, and James Madison
will give it the college try for a little while.
Maybe they'll score, but if you like point totals, I
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would not be stunned if Oregon just handled that all
by itself.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Forty six is the Tonal minus twenty and a half
Oregon dufteymore two thirty three and a half passing yards.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
What do we think?
Speaker 7 (40:12):
Maybe they're but but I don't know if they're gonna
throw that much. If it's I need it to be
more balanced. And they're not gonna sit him too. So
I'm nextly not a fan of that as much because
they're just gonna keep running in short, midrange games. And
you know, look, James Madison's got a good defense. You know,
their run defense statistically is awesome. They have guys, they
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have They kind of help Louisville in check from not
doing much anything. But this Oregon thing is just gonna
be a different animal at this.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Point, all right, Pete. Lastly, we'll see Alabama again on
New Year's Day when they take on Indiana. Indiana is
a six and a half point favorite right now. I
know it's early. We just watched Alabama just watching play
the best forty minutes last couple of months. Does Alabama
have a shot in this game?
Speaker 7 (40:59):
Well, according to the first half of the Oklahoma versus
Indiana preview, I wrote that wrap. Uh yeah, I said, yeah,
of course. You know it's at the end of I'm
still one of those people that like, I know, I know,
you're not supposed to say this, and aha, it's still Indiana.
There's part of me it's still is not quite there.
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I mean just it's it's a great story. They're great cooks,
but Alabama's got more talent, you know, They've just they've
got the guys. That's not the problem with this team.
It's just they haven't played up to it. Of course,
Indiana is going to be great, but look at tonight.
It almost seemed like once they got down, Ty Simpson
got good because he's like, Okay, well we're supposed to
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get boat raced again. We just did that against Georgia,
and now we're getting killed here. And then he kind
of found it a little bit. The team sort of
played up to its attitude and they're the under They're
gonna be the underdog at this They're gonna be here
about Alabama and the Heisman winner and all that. I'm
gonna pick Indiana, but it's I'm this is not a guarantee.
I was gonna easily pick Indiana over Oklahoma. I'm not
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so sure because that Bama team that showed up over
the second forty minutes of this game or the flast
flighty miss of this game ends up in Pasadena. Yeah,
they're not gonna run it at all. So it's kind
of an easy team to defend if you just got
to get the Ty Simpson. But I wouldn't put it
pass them. I'll pick Indiana right now, but I'm not
the thousand percent sold on it.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Pete, you're thinking about accidentally publishing that Oklahoma Indiana flee.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
You know what, It'll probably get more.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
He'll break it through. It'll put through the SEO and
to get a lot more hits than whatever it is.
I'm gonna come up with the next hour and a
half or so.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
College football insider previews, wrong game. That'll be the headline.
Barstool will pick it up, Everybody will pick it up.
He'll be awesome, exactly sooner.
Speaker 7 (42:49):
As to Fete Truman, there's something like that.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
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We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
You do.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
Guys, have a good one.