December 24, 2025 • 41 mins
Fitz & Buck have more thoughts on teams building new stadiums and leaving long time homes, thoughts on the College Football Playoff as we head into the second round, actors crossing over into music, and more!
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
It only takes one is a statement we hear all
the time in sports. Whenever somebody says, oh, man, is
it coach really gonna want this job? Bo, it don't
takes one coach. Oh there's no way that we're gonna
see a quarterback get paid that Well, it only takes
one team willing to do it. In fact, if you
look across the spectrum of sports, things like salary caps
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where existed because it only takes one person that you
simply can't outspend and you simply can't out maneuver financially
through the process of trying to find success. I think
that it's an important reminder right now because as we
talk about things like stadiums being relocated, I want to
remind everybody it only takes one city that's willing to
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do what yours isn't, and that will result in a
new stadium being built somewhere else. He's Buck Rising. I'm
Jason fitz In for the guys tonight, all the way
to two am. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays to everybody hanging
out with us. Be safe if you're out there driving
to get to your family, take your time. We appreciate
you guys spending a little bit of time with us.
And Buck, I say it only takes one because I've
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just sort of gotten into it tonight. I had time.
I'm just sitting there watching some Christmas movies. I had time.
Everybody was talking about the chief's decision to move from
Missouri to Kansas, and the number one thing people love
to say here is that cities should not be giving
public money to billionaires for stadiums. At its core, I
agree with that statement. To be clear, I agree with that.
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I also don't believe in unicorns and pixie dust. So
to me, when we say what should be happening, I
don't really give a damn about shoulds because shoulds aren't real.
So the question is would and when you start to
apply that logic to it. I just have to remind
everybody that as long as there is one city in
America that will build a stadium for somebody, essentially for free,
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owners are gonna take advantage of that, whether it's leverage
or whether it's for actual relocation. If you want to
die on the hill, that we should not put public
money towards stadiums. I totally respect the hell out of that.
But if another city turns around and says we choose to,
I respect the hell out of that. Every state has
the right to do whatever the hell they want to.
So if you live in Nevada and your state chooses
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that they're going to spend the money to build a
Raiders stadium, but Oakland chooses not to, the Raider's gonna
move And does that stink? Yes? But is that just
real business?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
One oh one?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah. And I don't think that if the state of
Missouri chooses not to give any funds to the Chiefs,
that's fine, but they don't get to complain about it
when the state of Kansas chooses to, Like, that's Kansas's choice.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I did not think that we were going to be
having a states rights conversation In all it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Necessarily states rights, because I know that can be a
very triggering statement for something like that. I mean, I
said states rights when I was on First Take, the
first time I said states rights about something football related,
and a great, great human being, good friend Mamani Jones
text me on the side it was like, I totally
get your point. You should just never use that phrase.
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I was heard and learned from that. So yeah, I'm
just saying states can choose how they want to how
they want to fund stadiums.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay, so I understand you.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
You presented this to me in the commercial break, is
my stadium thesis statement?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I said, okay, I'm here to listen. Now.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
The next question that I have about your stadium thesis
statement is this, is there a scenario in which a
city that has had the NFL, that has had all
the benefits of the NFL and has grown to a
certain standard or whatever the case may be, has grown
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to a certain level.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Can a city or.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
A state, depending on how you want to talk about this,
outgrow having an NFL franchise, Because I think in the
case of Kansas City, Missouri, that's probably not the situation
that they're in. I've been to Kansas City, Missouri. There's
not a lot going on in Kansas City, Missouri. I'm
sure that it's a much different place on days when
the Chiefs play versus you know, your average Royals.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Game during the summer or something like that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Whatever else, What other marquee event would Kansas City, Missouri have?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Also, by the way, the state of Missouri.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Now losing two NFL franchises in the Rams and the Chiefs,
and I know, you know, it's literally just skipping to
the other side of town in Kansas City, Kansas. But
still a small thing there for the state of Missouri
that I'm sure triggers them a little bit extra. Can
a city like Chicago, for example, who is also messaging
that Northwest Indiana is within the realm of possibilities for
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the Chicago Bears, as if.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That makes it damn bit of sense.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
But if college football programs, college athletic departments are going
to reconfigure the structure of their conferences simply for television
rights deals, and we're all going to look around and
be like, really, Rutgers and Maryland and the Big Ten,
or USC and Washington and the Big Ten or something
like that, that makes absolutely no sense. Geographically, have we
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already kind of broken down that fourth wall that would
allow for a world where the Chicago Bears play in
Northwest Indiana because the situation for them is more financially viable,
and Northwest Indiana could use something with a little bit
of financial juice to get the economy going in ways
that Chicago probably doesn't need the Bears like that anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, I think that that all makes sense, you know.
I mean, I don't know the drive time from northwestern
or Indiana to the Chicago to Chicago, but it's still
going to be the Chicago Bears, right Like that's this
isn't as drastic as the Rams moving to LA or
the Raiders moving to Vegas, or the Chargers moving to LA.
It's not as drastic as any of those.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean, people have been lying about being from Chicago
and actually being from Northwest Indiana or the suburbs for years.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
At this point, now they just get to realize their dreams.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And so to me, it really is as simple as
if you want to keep it, and if you want
to keep it means at the end of the day,
like this is where I'm a nihilist and I believe
nothing really makes the difference. I say this to you
all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
This is where I guess it's my favorite thing. When
you tell me nothing you do makes it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, that's just But here's the thing, Like I
don't believe just because we love our football team doesn't
make it any different a business than Walmart. So you know,
they are in the business of sports. So if I'm
a multi billion dollar, you know, business mogul, and I
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turn around and I'm like, all right, I oh man,
They're gonna give me all these tax incentives to move
Google headquarters from here to here. I'm moving Google like that.
Do we see this all.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
The time you're running I'm in Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
All these tech companies are moving from from California to Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Absolutely, And part of what the reason they're doing it
is because they're getting tax incentives all over the place.
Like it is incentivized, and it's like, hey, we'll give
you a free this, and we'll give you free that,
and we'll give you discount on these, and we'll make
sure that you don't have to pay for that, like
goes on and on. Amazon is going through the process
of constantly saying, hey, you can't charge sales tax on
transactions in certain states. You know, just because we have
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Amazon headquarters here. All of these things like these are
all tax benefits given to massive companies. So I don't
really care if you're talking about an NFL team, an
NBA team, a Major League Baseball team.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
At the end of the day, they're all a business.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So we don't limit any other business. Do we just
limit this one because we are Our hearts are connected
to it, and that's a beautiful concept. But as long
as San Antonio doesn't have an NFL team, or Portland
doesn't have an NFL team, or Toronto doesn't have an
NFL team, do you think that they're not going to
eventually use expansion to London is a reason to say, hey,
give us a free stadium or we're moving to London.
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Like every every city's going to have to make this decision.
I personally want to live somewhere with professional sports. So
if I have to pay a higher tax rate, but
it means that I can live somewhere where I can
go to baseball, basketball, hockey, and football games, that would
be worth it to me. For some people, it isn't.
So if it isn't worth worth it to you move
somewhere where you don't have to pay for it, Like
that's you don't have to support the business with your money,
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but the business doesn't have to turn around and limit
their options because you don't think that they should be
publicly funded.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean it really comes down to, like what
is the value genuinely? And and I don't know how
to quantify this. I'm sure somebody smarter than me and
which also includes Fitzy from time to time, could potentially
explain this to me.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
But what is the value of loyalty?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like genuine what is the true value of fan support
and loyalty? Like how how can how much can you
quantify the people that will stick with you no matter what?
Because the Bears are a huge brand, right That's that's
a that's a national fan base that obviously has a
huge following and huge history and all of these different things.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Will they follow you no matter what?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Or do you risk moving this thing further away from
the city of Chicago losing that connection to the city
of Chicago, even though Northwest Indiana is you know, I'm
sure at most and again I haven't seen the exact
logistics on where they would drop this thing, but it's
gonna be you know, it's gonna be manageable. They will,
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they will find ways, and hell, it may even mean
a transit hub for northwest Indiana.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
There may already exist. Such things may already exist.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I'm not familiar with the infrastructure of northwest Indiana off
the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
But for a team like.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Let's say the Rams, the Rams are in law Los Angeles,
the Rams are a Super Bowl champion. The Rams have
this year's MVP at quarterback. The Rams have as good
a support as a professional football team in Los Angeles
playing in Englewood could possibly have.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Have you done a Rams game at so far?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
One, they're pretty empty. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I think that's you know, potentially what's going to happen
here in Nashville, where if the team doesn't turn around,
then they've created something that's not really about the Tennessee
Titans and the Los Angeles Rams or or the Vegas
Raiders or whatever, but it's about everything else that you
can do under the umbrella of the NFL and how
much bigger you can make that thing just by proximity
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of a football team being in a place where you
can get a stadium like this built because I think
that you know, I think a franchise like the Titans,
for example, there there is going to be some cost
benefit analysis done here as to whether you are banking on, oh,
we'll just make new fans along the way, or are
we really considering the implications of this. Should we continue
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to make to some more exclusive thing in a place
where exclusivity is not something that's going to bring you
the vast majority of fans. Truly, what is the value
of the fans loyalty? And I think the fans are
being told, yeah, it's not that important because we have
way more money elsewhere that can benefit from us doing
the thing that makes the most sense from our.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Business well, and the value of loyalty versus the value
of I mean, look, some of these are real estate deals.
I don't want to get too complicated because people don't care,
but like some of these stadium initiatives are less about
the stadium and they're more about the apartments and bars
and condos and businesses that are built on that same
batchel of land that's owned by the team at that
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point and the team's making money off of it. Part
of the way that the Rams have made just gross
money off of their stadium. Isn't just from the stadium,
it's from everything that they own that they built around
it that's making the money. So now if you're a
billionaire owner, the question is what's the value of loyalty
versus whatever the up is in franchise valuation, you get
whatever the uptick is and everything else. Now, again, I
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looked it up Chicago to Gary, Indiana, and that's where
people have, you know, northwest in Indiana, people have used Gary.
I don't know if that's a specific spot, but right now,
the drive from Gary, Indiana to Chicago, Illinois's thirty six minutes.
We're talking about a thirty six minute drive. Like this
isn't gonna make a palpable change to anybody in Chicago.
It's just the state of Indiana is deciding that they're
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willing to pay for the stadium. They want the revenue
that's gonna come from whatever is built around it. Right Like,
that's it's the same thing Kansas City versus Kansas versus
Missouri on here, not a huge difference. But again, the
most profitable arena or stadium, I should say, in the
United States of America for the last two years running.
Each of those two years was allegiant. Look at what
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the Raiders were worth before they left Oakland to what
they're worth now. Now, there's some really good conversations about
what would it be worth that they've done the same
stadium in Oakland. All of these things. I don't really
care about that. If I'm Mark Davis. There was a
city that turned around and said I will pay for
your stadium. It's like, Wow, I want a new one,
and that's gonna be really good for attracting people to
come to it. I'm gonna go ahead and move and
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look at the valuation, look at the profit, look at
the money they're making. The fact that it has no
home field advantage. Who cares? If you're Mark Davis. Every
single seat is sold. When the Titans open their new stadium,
I think Amy Adams Trunk is gonna make a winfall
of cash because everybody outside of Nashville is gonna go
to that. They won't have a home field advantage. Nobody
in the city will care, but she's gonna make money.
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So if we take our fandom out and we just
treat it like a business, that's where I think we
forget sometimes where the owners went. I want to get
your thoughts on that. We got to take a break,
so we'll get Bucks thoughts on what it really means economically.
Coming up, we'll get you caught up on that next
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it all, we fill it out yet. Well, you haven't
filled it out.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yet, have you.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I saw Scott's email. Wow, I will get to it
before the playoff starts.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Probably you learn so much about our personalities. Like the
minute the email came through, it was like done, got
that knocked out, Like I either do it right away
or I forget to do it until the eleventh hour.
There is no outing for me.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
The mistake here is I have gotten to a point
my life, FITZI, and it's probably not terribly productive, and
nobody but one person, maybe a few people within the
sound of our voices well, and understand that Sean Wyman
probably resents me greatly for it. But I have gotten
to a point in my life where I do I
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just do not respond to emails. I'm so bad about this.
I saw Adam Schefter do an interview the other day,
and I know we have important things to talk about,
like the actual college football playoff, because it's going to
be fascinating to see what happens in this second round.
But I saw an interview with Adam Schefter the other
day where he said he did not have a single
unread text message. And then I looked at my text messages,
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and I looked at my emails and I said, who
the hell do you think you are that you could
just not respond to people at the rate that you do.
When Adam Damn Schefter, who is in his job for
obvious reasons, but is just living and breathing with every
text an email, I'm sure, any correspondence that he gets
through four different phones or whatever he's doing, and I'm
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sitting here with two hundred unread text messages and god
knows how many emails. I felt like such a bad
person in that moment.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I have literally turned off the count on my texts
so that I don't have to face it anymore.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Like that's my that's my Really, your strategy was just
simply to hide the number.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, I hide the number, And I love that for you. Yeah,
I have hidden all of the numbers. I mean, I've
gotten to the point that like when my mailboxes get
when my email gets full, I just get a new email.
Like that's it. Like I just that's it. Like email
gets full, get a new email.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's okay.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
So we're both bad people, it seems, Indiana, to your point, Uh,
the college football playoff is going to be fascinating for
a couple of different reasons. Because you and I have
talked about the Indiana football Hoosiers all season long. Because
I've told you, I, as an alumni of this institution,
never went to a football game. They have never mattered
in my life. It is the most spectacular I've ever
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seen in my life. The fact that Indiana is playing
a meaningful, meaningful game in the year twenty twenty five
in the Rose Bowl is insane. The fact that they
are the number one team in the country is just
a different kind of madness that I think you could
only achieve if you were taking serious psychedelic drugs. That
they are favored FITSI in this Rose Bowl by a
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significant margin. I think it opened at six and a half.
I haven't looked at it lately. That they are favored
against the Alabama Crimson Tide is something that I would
never have believed in my entire lifetime. I don't know
if Indiana is capable of winning a national championship, but
I'm gonna steal a take, Okay, and I I think
maybe we already talked about this or briefly covered it
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on the Saturday Show that you and I do Josh
Pate came on my local show here in Nashville and
said that Indiana winning a title would be the worst
thing to happen to college football. And I sat there
and stared at him for a minut it and I said,
go on, And he explained to me that the environment,
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the atmosphere in collegiate athletics has never been more favorable
for these kind of things. Vanderbilt and the existence of
Diego Pavia, transfer quarterback somebody who was Juco for a
period of time, then went to New Mexico, then goes
to Vanderbilt makes the program nationally relevant. Him and his
offensive coordinator and they end up on West End here
in Nashville. All of a sudden, Vanderbilt's playing as a
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ranked team against other ranked teams and beating them with regularity,
has a Heisman Trophy candidates a runner up. Kurt Signetti
and the situation at Indiana. Did you see the Did
you see the Kurt Signetti? Scott Dolson, the athletic director
at Indiana, They did an interview on sixty minutes.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
I don't know how many people are still watching sixty
minutes in twenty twenty five. I'm a weirdo IDVR and
I watch it on Tuesdays. I'm one hundred years old.
It's fine. I respect that Scott Dolson is talking about
the athletic director, the idea that, oh, if we just
spend money on football and football does well, that it
will help every other element of the business of Indiana University,
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that it will lift all ships, this great tide of
football if you just start to meaningfully invest in it,
and it costs a lot to invest in football. You've
got Kenny Dillingham out here in Arizona begging for twenty
million dollar checks from anybody just to get the program
up and going in a place where they feel like
they need to compete. I think that when Pate said
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that he's talking about there are going to be a
bunch of people who are chasing Kurt Signetti who will
never in a million years find another Kurt Signetti because
it's such a singular situation that is only made possible
by the current atmosphere of college football. That you'll get
one hundred different coaches hired and you'll get even more
of them fired because you cannot simply just recreate with money.
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What is happening in Indiana right now. I think they're
going to win the title. It's a ridiculous thing that
I've just said. And so it's not ridiculous even in
the slightest because the same reason that ran Nick Sabe
out of the sport, Kurt Signetti, who worked for Nick Saban,
turned around and said, I'll do it with three stars.
We'll make a millionaires, and we'll kick everybody's ass.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I love it, and I think Pate couldn't be more wrong.
I think what you just described is why this is
the best era in the history of college football. I
think that Indiana has every shot. Like I've said to
you before, and I'll say it again, I got in
the corner of my couch for the Big Ten Championship game.
I nestled up in the couch the corner, had the
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dog on me hanging out right, and pops popcorn. I
didn't actually have the popcorn, because I'm eating healthy. I
had some sort of healthy snack. I think it were carrots.
I'm sitting on the corner of the sitting on the
corner of the couch.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Pop corn and carrots ridiculous, But well.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I was high. But I've sitt there, I look at
the TV and I just said out loud. I was like,
all right, show me what you got. And I walked
into that game saying, Okay, we've spent all year trying
to apologize for what this Indiana team looks like. Show
me what you got. And Fernando Mendoza takes that hit
in the opening drive, just gets knocked and you know
what out like, and I'm looking at it and saying, well,
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that's it. Back in the game, just playing the way
that he played the team speed on the defensive side
for Indiana blew my mind just watching that because I've
watched them all year, but all year there's been this
little caveat not the Oregon game. They were great in
the Oregon Game too. I just I felt like this
was such a big prove it moment and they did
exactly that. Like I think the message here is, hey,
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you know what, you can go out and yeah, everybody
might try and copycat it. But at the same time,
schools are copycat and a high name, high profile coaches
that they just have to play buyouts on every year.
So I think having a team like Indiana win the
National championship is assigned to absolutely everybody across the board, Like,
if you're Michigan State, if you're Wisconsin, if you're Auburn,
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if you're half the Big Twelve, if you're half the ACC,
you don't have an excuse. You can't turn around and say, oh,
we can't do it. We just don't have what those
other schools have. Indiana figured it out. If Indiana can
figure it out, you can figure it out. I think
it's empowered. I think it's great for the sport. I
think it's a key, key moment. I don't think Indiana
is gonna win the championship. I'll tell you why, though.
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First let's get an update from Steve Disager on what's
going on in the scoreboard right now.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Let's start with the NBA scoreboard. The Lakers have dropped
consecutive games for the first time this season. They'll be
hosting a Christmas showdown with Houston. The Lakers lose and
it wasn't closed, one thirty two to one oh eight
at Phoenix. Luka Doncic was out for LA with a
Bruce caff Austin Reeves did return from injury and off
the bench, had seventeen points. Houston has the late game
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there at the Clippers late first half. Clippers up fifty
six fifty four clips with a seven and twenty one record.
Dallas beat Denver one thirty one to one, thirty Cooper
Flag thirty three points, Anthony Davis with thirty one. San
Antonio won its seventh straight game, won thirty to one
ten over Oklahoma City with a dominant last ten minutes.
They win despite thirty three points from Shay Gilgis Alexander
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at Minnesota, thirty eight for Anthony Edwards in a victory
against New York one fifteen to one. Oh four wins
for Milwaukee and Cleveland, and among the games in progress,
the Pistons trying to go to twenty four and six,
our leading early third quarter at Sacramento seventy seven to
sixty five, and it's only a third quarter. Well, they've
just excuse me, the third quarter. It is at Portland
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Magic seventy four fifty seven against Portland, and they've just
gone final at Utah, Memphis wins one thirty seven one,
twenty eights over the Jazz. Thirty seven points for Santi
Al dama As. For the college basketball, Saint John's defeated
Hartford eighty five fifty nine. Villanova won at Seaton Hall
sixty four fifty six among the thirteen NHL games. Detroit
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in overtime beat Dallas Nashville in overtime one at Minnesota.
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He had one year left on his contract. He can
still play the four majors thanks to a five year
exemption as a recent PGA Championship winner. Bryce Harper says
he will play for Team USA and the World Baseball
Classic in March. Pirates reportedly gave All star Ryan O'Hearn
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a two year deal. He played this past season first
base right field in DH for Baltimore and San Diego
and batted two eighty one. The White Sox signed left
he pitcher Sean Newcomb. He pitched for the Red Sox
and A's last year with an e ARAF two point
seventy three, mostly as a reliever. College football Bowl wins
for Western Kentucky and Louisville. The late game the Frisco
Bowl in texas As, Ohio U leading fourteen to three
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over UNLV going to the fourth quarter to the NFL.
The two game suspension of Steelers wide receiver DK Metcalf
was upheld. He had appealed. Quarterback JJ McCarthy of the
Vikings will miss the Christmas game against the Lions. He
has a hairline fracture in his right hand. Green Bay
quarterback Jordan Love, still in concussion protocol, was limited at
practice today and his backup QB Malik Willis was limited
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with the sore shoulder and the Commander's host Dallas On Christmas.
Washington quarterback Marcus Mariota missed another walkthrough due to hand
and quad injuries. The Pro Bowl teams were announced and
there are nineteen first timers. Four teams have six Pro
Bowlers each. Those four are Denver and Baltimore, Seattle and
San Francisco. The three AFC quarterbacks Josh Allen, Drake May
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and Justin Herbert. The three NFC quarterbacks Matthew Stafford, Dak
Prescott and Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
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I looked and according to my phone, right now, one
of my email accounts has one hundred and forty three
thousan five hundred and sixty four unread message. So I'm
I'm I'm on fire. I'm doing God's disgusts. Ye, well
there we go. I am with you on the one
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for Indiana, and I'll be honest like this is this
is the most real thing I can ever admit here
there is if Indiana was in Indiana, I think they
would be getting a lot more love to be the
national champion this year, Like if it was the same
exact Indiana team. We're just so not used to seeing
Indiana in these situations. I think there's been slow for
buy in, and so there is this moment for me.
(27:21):
You're right there, favored by six and a half currently
against Alabama. I just love proof of concept. So to me,
I look at how strong. Georgia has played of late,
and I look at Kirby smart and proof of concept.
From a coaching standpoint, He's got a national championship. Just
the process of getting through the playoff, the process of
being in a championship game, it's all so new. I
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have a hard time just imagining that the jump could
just be completed. For Indiana, it feels like there's still
a step. I know that's a terrible like actual analysis,
because there aren't many problems. Indiana did lose one of
their best pass rushers after the Big Ten Championship came
to a freak injury where he's high fiving fans. Really
unfortunate moment. They'll have to replace some of that pressure
(28:04):
that they'll be able to try and create. I think
it Indiana beats Alabama, I have no doubt about that.
It's just getting all the way to that championship when
everything gets a little tighter. I like a coach that's
been there, and Georgia playing as well as they are.
Even though I like Fernando more than I like Gunner,
I lean Georgia.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So you you think that Georgia is the best team
in the field.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I think that they're the best equipped for a playoff run.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Well, no, and that matters, right, I mean that I
think that it's Signetty's been in a lot of big games,
but not as the guy, right, And it's It's one
of those things that we struggle with, I think as
an industry in sports.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Talk media, sports.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Talk radio, podcast, TV, whatever the case may be, are
we capable of believing without it being just chalking it
up the blind faith or whole for whatever, that something
like this could happen before we actually see it happen.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Like, is there an analytical.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Way to approach this by saying, no, they actually are
equipped to face the kind of teams in the field
that they will face based on what we have seen
from them in the regular season, or will it just
be a completely different experience. Will they have a moment
like Penn State? For example, Indiana went to Penn State
this year and they out blew it. Mendoza didn't play
(29:28):
a great game, threw an interception that put him in
a hole early on.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
They had to dig their way out of it.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
They did on one of the most spectacular final drives
with Amari Cooper in the back of the end zone.
The whole thing right, winning at Happy Valley for the
first time in program history, and a game that Indiana.
I mean, Indiana had a couple of those this year.
They went to Iowa. They never went at Iowa. They
went to Penn State, they never went to Penn State,
they did both. Do we just consider the playoff to
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be an entirely different atmosphere? Do we consider Indiana to
have had that much of an easy or that much
easier of a path than any of these other teams
in the field based on what we now know about
the level of competition in the SEC and what Oregon
is versus what Oregon has actually done, and what the
(30:16):
best win on their resume really is, And how do
we feel about Texas Tech as a bit of a
wild card in all of this situation? Like, I just
don't think that Indiana and Georgia are that different except
for the thing that you've cited, which is Kirby Smart
is a national champion multiple times over, and that he
understands how to put his team in the best position
(30:38):
to succeed. And you know, Caitlin de Bore may have
got me once, but he's not going to get me
when it matters.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think, for me. Everything you just said is so true.
But I also think I universally apply, you know, have
I seen it before to everything in life. Like if somebody,
if you're listening to this right now, and you're you know,
you work for a financial company and the absolute biggest
(31:03):
pitch of your life, you need somebody to make that
pitch that has never made it before. They got to
go in and do their first ever presentation. You're probably
a little bit nervous, right Like. I certainly remember my
first ever shot at doing a real radio show. I
remember my first day, my first TV shot live on
TV at ESPN. I'd never even done a camera test.
(31:24):
I mean, we were live five minutes before. The producer
handed me a rundown and I said, what's a rundown?
I'd never seen a TV rundown before? Like, and I
was live on TV five minutes later, right Like, that
could have crashed and burned. Now I handled that moment,
and luckily enough, that helped change my life. I remember
the first time I stood up on the stage in
front of people with a musical instrument, right Like, it
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doesn't matter what you do. The first time you drive
a truck, you think you're prepared to drive a truck,
but then you get out there, you know you don't know, right,
So for me, it's sort of a truth in life
that you know so often we just don't know how
people handle new pressure. And so certainly that's that's a
cop out, and I'm willing to admit that's a cop out.
Like you can't. You can't judge Fernando Mendos on what
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he hasn't seen it. It's why I think these playoffs
are so important for quarterbacks, right Like we I do
believe that the current college football playoff system is going
to give us better prepared NFL quarterbacks because we have
more tape and evidence on how they handle pressure situations.
We are going to learn about Fernando through this playoffs.
We're going to learn about Dante Moore in these playoffs.
(32:27):
We learned about Ty Simpson certainly in that first playoff game.
He definitely changed some minds in the way he played
that game. Like we're gonna learn about Gunner Stockton and
some like you know what I mean. Like, so I
do think that I'm universal in this. I want to
see it in pressure moments to believe it.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
No, it's fair and the idea of new pressure and
these different atmospheres, these different environments, these different all these different.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Variables that are are just such.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
A fun science experiment college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Is, but be on the G five.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
We don't need to get into the nonsense that well,
I mean, just a waste of time these two lane
ole miss games, and respectfully for James Madison, like there
that game should have come with a like a warning
label like a pack of cigarettes, like it's going to
be physically bad for your health to be on the
same field as a completely different caliber of athlete.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
It is borderline unsafe.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
But the idea of new pressure, the whole way through,
is the thing that makes this all fascinating because we
are in an atmosphere that creates these kind of situations
not with regularity, but we're still learning about all the
different all the different impacts of the new age of
college athletics, and we're seeing it on a huge stage,
and we're probably going to get an expanded playoff at
(33:40):
some point. They haven't, I know, they have a deadline
for the sixteen team playoff as they're working towards the
different things like that and how much more television money
is going to be involved in all of this.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
I can't wait to find out. Man.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I genuinely don't know what to do with the College
Football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
This year, and that has to be the kind of
element that they were going for, right.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
It's not It's not parody in the NFL sense, because
there's so many more college programs and so many different
things where you're dealing with the amount of transfers and
the age of the athletes and all of this different
stuff that has to be considered. But it's it's a
closer version to that while still maintaining the things that
we love about college football.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Well, the College Football Playoff might be in for a
big change anyway, because the world is reacting to Notre Dame.
What's it mean for the future of the College Football Playoff?
And how is college football going to handle Notre Dame?
As soon as next season, we'll talk about it next
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. Bucket Fit's hanging out
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Speaker 2 (34:37):
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Speaker 3 (34:44):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz bucket Fit's hanging out
with you and for Jason Smith and Mike Harmen. Fancy
got a question for you. Yeah, what's up.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You're a big star Wars guy, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah. This is Christopher Lee, this is Count Dooku right here.
Really yeah. Wow. I don't know how I feel about that.
I don't know how I feel about that. You know,
here's the thing. I think sometimes actors try to be musicians,
and I hate it when somebody says you can't do
it because you're an actor, and that means you're not
going to be a good musician. That is not true. However,
(35:16):
I do think that there are we just need more
people in the world that, you know, maybe have some
honest people around them when it comes to the music
side of it. I just I think there's a lot
of people that are like, oh my god, but there's
like you just I don't know, man, it's just that
he should stick to acting. I'm just saying he should.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Sick.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I mean, I mean, buck, am I wrong? Were you
listening to that and you were like rooving with it? No?
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I was just I it's such an obscure poll by
bo the Count dook who's singing Christmas Care.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
To guitar, like hardcore guitar, not hardcore, kind.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Of beautiful people sort of riff going in the back
to it felt like it was a little Marilyn Mansony
on there.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, it's a very I'm impressed with the depth of
Chris miss and holiday music that Bow has has gone
to to provide us some additional entertainment.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I mean, I feel like if you're a person of
a certain level of competency, if you're excellent at what
you're doing. I'm not saying that that particularly. The name
is Christopher Lee.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Is that right? They hear that correctly? Okay, Uh so,
you know, I don't know what else he was in.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
He's not He's not Morgan Freeman or Robert de Niro
or whatever in a lot of movies.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Okay, I'm being disrespectful, then I'm being mean.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Like if you googled him, you know, I think so
I think so, Okay, well.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Now I feel bad.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
But either way, if you're if you're a person, like
if you're in the entertainment sphere and you're really good
at what you do, and you're like, yeah, I could
probably probably try my hand at this damn if they
tell me that I can't do it, I've done. I've
done a million different things that people have told me
I can't do my entire career.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Why can't I do this?
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I just feel like people get to a point where
either you get promoted to uh to a point of
failure where you've achieved your sense of competency, or if
you've you've eclipsed your sense of competency, and all of
a sudden, you're like, Ah, that was fun, and you're
really good at all this other stuff, and we put
you on this thing because we thought you'd be good
at it, because you're so good at everything else that
we put you in front of that it ends up
not being great. It's kind of like Dennis Miller and
(37:12):
Tony Tony Kornheiser on Monday Night Football, Like I got
what they were going for, but it never really quite worked.
Doesn't mean that those two people aren't excellent and everything
else that they do, but in that particular moment, it
just didn't quite hit. I feel the same about the
idea of people having that kind of crossover in the
entertainment space.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think, and I've never really thought about this until
this exact moment. So I'm going to workshop this with you.
But I feel like the accessibility, there are very few
creative endeavors that are more accessible to have in at
least a floor of competence and quality than music because
you can just buy it, like you can essentially, like
(37:53):
if you're doing a little drummer boy and you have
enough money in the bank, you can hire great studio musicians, right,
you can hire a great producer, hire a great mixer.
You can hire all of these and it's gonna cost
you a fraction a fraction of what it would cost.
Like if a musician wanted to make a movie, you're
talking about an astronomical amount of money. You know, if
you want to get into most other creative spaces, you're
(38:15):
talking about an astronomical amount of money. If you're a
very successful actor or model or any of these things,
Like you work in creative spaces and you are very successful.
I mean, for the for less than it would cost
you to get a fancy car, you could hire the
best musicians, mixers, and producers in the world and all
you got to do is sing over the track. Right, So, like,
(38:36):
I just think that the accessibility, especially if you're rich
enough to put out something it makes you feel like
you're better than you are. That's all, like I just
not better than you are as a person, better than
you are as a talent. Like you can have absolutely
no musical ability but still hire great musicians, producers and mixers,
and all of a sudden you're still gonna put out
something that sounds at least decent, so that empowers people
(38:57):
that maybe don't have the basic need to be empowered.
That was very condescending of Mendissent.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Well much less than I mean, there's there's always just
kind of an underlying current of condescension on the show.
I think it's also compative by the idea that you
could make significantly better music than the music that just
brought us back with Chad GPT and it's scary and
it's terrifying, and it's you know, I mean, there's you
can still kind of tell that it's not entirely authentic, uh,
(39:25):
but in certain situations you may not even care because.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
It's trendy and it's a it's an earworm and whatever.
It's that. We've never we've never lowered the bar more
than we have in the year.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Twenty twenty five for what passes as acceptable music.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Oh, and it's that like, AI in music is only
going to overtake all of it. And this is where
you know, people come in all the time, especially because
my past in music. Everybody says, oh, you must have
deep thoughts on it, like, oh my god, I should
use my mic to try and push back on it.
I look at all of it, and it's inevitable. I mean,
the fact is thirty forty years ago, when you would
(40:01):
hear an orchestra on a on a song that was
a bunch of real musicians. And then you know, if
you listen to like all the famous Coldplay records, that
you hear those big string sections, that's one guy with
a keyboard like he's using computer programs and he's playing
the strings on top of it. Nobody ever listened to
it and thought, wow, is that mostly artificial music or
(40:22):
is that real music? Like, it's inevitable. Musicians are going
to be replaced on all of these massive records. AI
is going to take over, and the modern generation isn't
gonna give it. Damn. As long as they can, as
long as they can bop to their K pop, they're
gonna be just fine, and it's it's it's inevitable. That's
again me ever the nihilist.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
I've never sounded older than Bop to their K pop.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Thank you, thank you so much. That might be, you know,
maybe that maybe that's what I'll call the next record
that I put out. But I can assure you, whatever
it is, it will sound better than a little drummer boy.
It just sounded. I am going to fix the rivalry
that is. I'm just being honest. Between a Notre Dame
and college football. I've got all of it. I've got
a way to solve it where college football can shut
Notre Dame down. I'll tell you how Next Bucking fits.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
It only takes one is a statement we hear all
the time in sports. Whenever somebody says, oh, man, is
it coach really gonna want this job? Bo, it don't
takes one coach. Oh there's no way that we're gonna
see a quarterback get paid that Well, it only takes
one team willing to do it. In fact, if you
look across the spectrum of sports, things like salary caps
(00:48):
where existed because it only takes one person that you
simply can't outspend and you simply can't out maneuver financially
through the process of trying to find success. I think
that it's an important reminder right now because as we
talk about things like stadiums being relocated, I want to
remind everybody it only takes one city that's willing to
(01:09):
do what yours isn't, and that will result in a
new stadium being built somewhere else. He's Buck Rising. I'm
Jason fitz In for the guys tonight, all the way
to two am. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays to everybody hanging
out with us. Be safe if you're out there driving
to get to your family, take your time. We appreciate
you guys spending a little bit of time with us.
And Buck, I say it only takes one because I've
(01:30):
just sort of gotten into it tonight. I had time.
I'm just sitting there watching some Christmas movies. I had time.
Everybody was talking about the chief's decision to move from
Missouri to Kansas, and the number one thing people love
to say here is that cities should not be giving
public money to billionaires for stadiums. At its core, I
agree with that statement. To be clear, I agree with that.
(01:52):
I also don't believe in unicorns and pixie dust. So
to me, when we say what should be happening, I
don't really give a damn about shoulds because shoulds aren't real.
So the question is would and when you start to
apply that logic to it. I just have to remind
everybody that as long as there is one city in
America that will build a stadium for somebody, essentially for free,
(02:15):
owners are gonna take advantage of that, whether it's leverage
or whether it's for actual relocation. If you want to
die on the hill, that we should not put public
money towards stadiums. I totally respect the hell out of that.
But if another city turns around and says we choose to,
I respect the hell out of that. Every state has
the right to do whatever the hell they want to.
So if you live in Nevada and your state chooses
(02:36):
that they're going to spend the money to build a
Raiders stadium, but Oakland chooses not to, the Raider's gonna
move And does that stink? Yes? But is that just
real business?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
One oh one?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah. And I don't think that if the state of
Missouri chooses not to give any funds to the Chiefs,
that's fine, but they don't get to complain about it
when the state of Kansas chooses to, Like, that's Kansas's choice.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I did not think that we were going to be
having a states rights conversation In all it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Necessarily states rights, because I know that can be a
very triggering statement for something like that. I mean, I
said states rights when I was on First Take, the
first time I said states rights about something football related,
and a great, great human being, good friend Mamani Jones
text me on the side it was like, I totally
get your point. You should just never use that phrase.
(03:26):
I was heard and learned from that. So yeah, I'm
just saying states can choose how they want to how
they want to fund stadiums.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay, so I understand you.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
You presented this to me in the commercial break, is
my stadium thesis statement?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I said, okay, I'm here to listen. Now.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
The next question that I have about your stadium thesis
statement is this, is there a scenario in which a
city that has had the NFL, that has had all
the benefits of the NFL and has grown to a
certain standard or whatever the case may be, has grown
(04:08):
to a certain level.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Can a city or.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
A state, depending on how you want to talk about this,
outgrow having an NFL franchise, Because I think in the
case of Kansas City, Missouri, that's probably not the situation
that they're in. I've been to Kansas City, Missouri. There's
not a lot going on in Kansas City, Missouri. I'm
sure that it's a much different place on days when
the Chiefs play versus you know, your average Royals.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Game during the summer or something like that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Whatever else, What other marquee event would Kansas City, Missouri have?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Also, by the way, the state of Missouri.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Now losing two NFL franchises in the Rams and the Chiefs,
and I know, you know, it's literally just skipping to
the other side of town in Kansas City, Kansas. But
still a small thing there for the state of Missouri
that I'm sure triggers them a little bit extra. Can
a city like Chicago, for example, who is also messaging
that Northwest Indiana is within the realm of possibilities for
(05:06):
the Chicago Bears, as if.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That makes it damn bit of sense.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
But if college football programs, college athletic departments are going
to reconfigure the structure of their conferences simply for television
rights deals, and we're all going to look around and
be like, really, Rutgers and Maryland and the Big Ten,
or USC and Washington and the Big Ten or something
like that, that makes absolutely no sense. Geographically, have we
(05:31):
already kind of broken down that fourth wall that would
allow for a world where the Chicago Bears play in
Northwest Indiana because the situation for them is more financially viable,
and Northwest Indiana could use something with a little bit
of financial juice to get the economy going in ways
that Chicago probably doesn't need the Bears like that anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, I think that that all makes sense, you know.
I mean, I don't know the drive time from northwestern
or Indiana to the Chicago to Chicago, but it's still
going to be the Chicago Bears, right Like that's this
isn't as drastic as the Rams moving to LA or
the Raiders moving to Vegas, or the Chargers moving to LA.
It's not as drastic as any of those.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean, people have been lying about being from Chicago
and actually being from Northwest Indiana or the suburbs for years.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
At this point, now they just get to realize their dreams.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And so to me, it really is as simple as
if you want to keep it, and if you want
to keep it means at the end of the day,
like this is where I'm a nihilist and I believe
nothing really makes the difference. I say this to you
all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
This is where I guess it's my favorite thing. When
you tell me nothing you do makes it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, that's just But here's the thing, Like I
don't believe just because we love our football team doesn't
make it any different a business than Walmart. So you know,
they are in the business of sports. So if I'm
a multi billion dollar, you know, business mogul, and I
(06:58):
turn around and I'm like, all right, I oh man,
They're gonna give me all these tax incentives to move
Google headquarters from here to here. I'm moving Google like that.
Do we see this all.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
The time you're running I'm in Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
All these tech companies are moving from from California to Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Absolutely, And part of what the reason they're doing it
is because they're getting tax incentives all over the place.
Like it is incentivized, and it's like, hey, we'll give
you a free this, and we'll give you free that,
and we'll give you discount on these, and we'll make
sure that you don't have to pay for that, like
goes on and on. Amazon is going through the process
of constantly saying, hey, you can't charge sales tax on
transactions in certain states. You know, just because we have
(07:35):
Amazon headquarters here. All of these things like these are
all tax benefits given to massive companies. So I don't
really care if you're talking about an NFL team, an
NBA team, a Major League Baseball team.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
At the end of the day, they're all a business.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So we don't limit any other business. Do we just
limit this one because we are Our hearts are connected
to it, and that's a beautiful concept. But as long
as San Antonio doesn't have an NFL team, or Portland
doesn't have an NFL team, or Toronto doesn't have an
NFL team, do you think that they're not going to
eventually use expansion to London is a reason to say, hey,
give us a free stadium or we're moving to London.
(08:11):
Like every every city's going to have to make this decision.
I personally want to live somewhere with professional sports. So
if I have to pay a higher tax rate, but
it means that I can live somewhere where I can
go to baseball, basketball, hockey, and football games, that would
be worth it to me. For some people, it isn't.
So if it isn't worth worth it to you move
somewhere where you don't have to pay for it, Like
that's you don't have to support the business with your money,
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but the business doesn't have to turn around and limit
their options because you don't think that they should be
publicly funded.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean it really comes down to, like what
is the value genuinely? And and I don't know how
to quantify this. I'm sure somebody smarter than me and
which also includes Fitzy from time to time, could potentially
explain this to me.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
But what is the value of loyalty?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like genuine what is the true value of fan support
and loyalty? Like how how can how much can you
quantify the people that will stick with you no matter what?
Because the Bears are a huge brand, right That's that's
a that's a national fan base that obviously has a
huge following and huge history and all of these different things.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Will they follow you no matter what?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Or do you risk moving this thing further away from
the city of Chicago losing that connection to the city
of Chicago, even though Northwest Indiana is you know, I'm
sure at most and again I haven't seen the exact
logistics on where they would drop this thing, but it's
gonna be you know, it's gonna be manageable. They will,
(09:38):
they will find ways, and hell, it may even mean
a transit hub for northwest Indiana.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
There may already exist. Such things may already exist.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I'm not familiar with the infrastructure of northwest Indiana off
the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
But for a team like.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Let's say the Rams, the Rams are in law Los Angeles,
the Rams are a Super Bowl champion. The Rams have
this year's MVP at quarterback. The Rams have as good
a support as a professional football team in Los Angeles
playing in Englewood could possibly have.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Have you done a Rams game at so far?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
One, they're pretty empty. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I think that's you know, potentially what's going to happen
here in Nashville, where if the team doesn't turn around,
then they've created something that's not really about the Tennessee
Titans and the Los Angeles Rams or or the Vegas
Raiders or whatever, but it's about everything else that you
can do under the umbrella of the NFL and how
much bigger you can make that thing just by proximity
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of a football team being in a place where you
can get a stadium like this built because I think
that you know, I think a franchise like the Titans,
for example, there there is going to be some cost
benefit analysis done here as to whether you are banking on, oh,
we'll just make new fans along the way, or are
we really considering the implications of this. Should we continue
(11:03):
to make to some more exclusive thing in a place
where exclusivity is not something that's going to bring you
the vast majority of fans. Truly, what is the value
of the fans loyalty? And I think the fans are
being told, yeah, it's not that important because we have
way more money elsewhere that can benefit from us doing
the thing that makes the most sense from our.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Business well, and the value of loyalty versus the value
of I mean, look, some of these are real estate deals.
I don't want to get too complicated because people don't care,
but like some of these stadium initiatives are less about
the stadium and they're more about the apartments and bars
and condos and businesses that are built on that same
batchel of land that's owned by the team at that
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point and the team's making money off of it. Part
of the way that the Rams have made just gross
money off of their stadium. Isn't just from the stadium,
it's from everything that they own that they built around
it that's making the money. So now if you're a
billionaire owner, the question is what's the value of loyalty
versus whatever the up is in franchise valuation, you get
whatever the uptick is and everything else. Now, again, I
(12:05):
looked it up Chicago to Gary, Indiana, and that's where
people have, you know, northwest in Indiana, people have used Gary.
I don't know if that's a specific spot, but right now,
the drive from Gary, Indiana to Chicago, Illinois's thirty six minutes.
We're talking about a thirty six minute drive. Like this
isn't gonna make a palpable change to anybody in Chicago.
It's just the state of Indiana is deciding that they're
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willing to pay for the stadium. They want the revenue
that's gonna come from whatever is built around it. Right Like,
that's it's the same thing Kansas City versus Kansas versus
Missouri on here, not a huge difference. But again, the
most profitable arena or stadium, I should say, in the
United States of America for the last two years running.
Each of those two years was allegiant. Look at what
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the Raiders were worth before they left Oakland to what
they're worth now. Now, there's some really good conversations about
what would it be worth that they've done the same
stadium in Oakland. All of these things. I don't really
care about that. If I'm Mark Davis. There was a
city that turned around and said I will pay for
your stadium. It's like, Wow, I want a new one,
and that's gonna be really good for attracting people to
come to it. I'm gonna go ahead and move and
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look at the valuation, look at the profit, look at
the money they're making. The fact that it has no
home field advantage. Who cares? If you're Mark Davis. Every
single seat is sold. When the Titans open their new stadium,
I think Amy Adams Trunk is gonna make a winfall
of cash because everybody outside of Nashville is gonna go
to that. They won't have a home field advantage. Nobody
in the city will care, but she's gonna make money.
(13:30):
So if we take our fandom out and we just
treat it like a business, that's where I think we
forget sometimes where the owners went. I want to get
your thoughts on that. We got to take a break,
so we'll get Bucks thoughts on what it really means economically.
Coming up, we'll get you caught up on that next
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it all, we fill it out yet. Well, you haven't
filled it out.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yet, have you.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I saw Scott's email. Wow, I will get to it
before the playoff starts.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Probably you learn so much about our personalities. Like the
minute the email came through, it was like done, got
that knocked out, Like I either do it right away
or I forget to do it until the eleventh hour.
There is no outing for me.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
The mistake here is I have gotten to a point
my life, FITZI, and it's probably not terribly productive, and
nobody but one person, maybe a few people within the
sound of our voices well, and understand that Sean Wyman
probably resents me greatly for it. But I have gotten
to a point in my life where I do I
(16:22):
just do not respond to emails. I'm so bad about this.
I saw Adam Schefter do an interview the other day,
and I know we have important things to talk about,
like the actual college football playoff, because it's going to
be fascinating to see what happens in this second round.
But I saw an interview with Adam Schefter the other
day where he said he did not have a single
unread text message. And then I looked at my text messages,
(16:45):
and I looked at my emails and I said, who
the hell do you think you are that you could
just not respond to people at the rate that you do.
When Adam Damn Schefter, who is in his job for
obvious reasons, but is just living and breathing with every
text an email, I'm sure, any correspondence that he gets
through four different phones or whatever he's doing, and I'm
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sitting here with two hundred unread text messages and god
knows how many emails. I felt like such a bad
person in that moment.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I have literally turned off the count on my texts
so that I don't have to face it anymore.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Like that's my that's my Really, your strategy was just
simply to hide the number.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, I hide the number, And I love that for you. Yeah,
I have hidden all of the numbers. I mean, I've
gotten to the point that like when my mailboxes get
when my email gets full, I just get a new email.
Like that's it. Like I just that's it. Like email
gets full, get a new email.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's okay.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
So we're both bad people, it seems, Indiana, to your point, Uh,
the college football playoff is going to be fascinating for
a couple of different reasons. Because you and I have
talked about the Indiana football Hoosiers all season long. Because
I've told you, I, as an alumni of this institution,
never went to a football game. They have never mattered
in my life. It is the most spectacular I've ever
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seen in my life. The fact that Indiana is playing
a meaningful, meaningful game in the year twenty twenty five
in the Rose Bowl is insane. The fact that they
are the number one team in the country is just
a different kind of madness that I think you could
only achieve if you were taking serious psychedelic drugs. That
they are favored FITSI in this Rose Bowl by a
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significant margin. I think it opened at six and a half.
I haven't looked at it lately. That they are favored
against the Alabama Crimson Tide is something that I would
never have believed in my entire lifetime. I don't know
if Indiana is capable of winning a national championship, but
I'm gonna steal a take, Okay, and I I think
maybe we already talked about this or briefly covered it
(18:43):
on the Saturday Show that you and I do Josh
Pate came on my local show here in Nashville and
said that Indiana winning a title would be the worst
thing to happen to college football. And I sat there
and stared at him for a minut it and I said,
go on, And he explained to me that the environment,
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the atmosphere in collegiate athletics has never been more favorable
for these kind of things. Vanderbilt and the existence of
Diego Pavia, transfer quarterback somebody who was Juco for a
period of time, then went to New Mexico, then goes
to Vanderbilt makes the program nationally relevant. Him and his
offensive coordinator and they end up on West End here
in Nashville. All of a sudden, Vanderbilt's playing as a
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ranked team against other ranked teams and beating them with regularity,
has a Heisman Trophy candidates a runner up. Kurt Signetti
and the situation at Indiana. Did you see the Did
you see the Kurt Signetti? Scott Dolson, the athletic director
at Indiana, They did an interview on sixty minutes.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
I don't know how many people are still watching sixty
minutes in twenty twenty five. I'm a weirdo IDVR and
I watch it on Tuesdays. I'm one hundred years old.
It's fine. I respect that Scott Dolson is talking about
the athletic director, the idea that, oh, if we just
spend money on football and football does well, that it
will help every other element of the business of Indiana University,
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that it will lift all ships, this great tide of
football if you just start to meaningfully invest in it,
and it costs a lot to invest in football. You've
got Kenny Dillingham out here in Arizona begging for twenty
million dollar checks from anybody just to get the program
up and going in a place where they feel like
they need to compete. I think that when Pate said
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that he's talking about there are going to be a
bunch of people who are chasing Kurt Signetti who will
never in a million years find another Kurt Signetti because
it's such a singular situation that is only made possible
by the current atmosphere of college football. That you'll get
one hundred different coaches hired and you'll get even more
of them fired because you cannot simply just recreate with money.
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What is happening in Indiana right now. I think they're
going to win the title. It's a ridiculous thing that
I've just said. And so it's not ridiculous even in
the slightest because the same reason that ran Nick Sabe
out of the sport, Kurt Signetti, who worked for Nick Saban,
turned around and said, I'll do it with three stars.
We'll make a millionaires, and we'll kick everybody's ass.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I love it, and I think Pate couldn't be more wrong.
I think what you just described is why this is
the best era in the history of college football. I
think that Indiana has every shot. Like I've said to
you before, and I'll say it again, I got in
the corner of my couch for the Big Ten Championship game.
I nestled up in the couch the corner, had the
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dog on me hanging out right, and pops popcorn. I
didn't actually have the popcorn, because I'm eating healthy. I
had some sort of healthy snack. I think it were carrots.
I'm sitting on the corner of the sitting on the
corner of the couch.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Pop corn and carrots ridiculous, But well.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I was high. But I've sitt there, I look at
the TV and I just said out loud. I was like,
all right, show me what you got. And I walked
into that game saying, Okay, we've spent all year trying
to apologize for what this Indiana team looks like. Show
me what you got. And Fernando Mendoza takes that hit
in the opening drive, just gets knocked and you know
what out like, and I'm looking at it and saying, well,
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that's it. Back in the game, just playing the way
that he played the team speed on the defensive side
for Indiana blew my mind just watching that because I've
watched them all year, but all year there's been this
little caveat not the Oregon game. They were great in
the Oregon Game too. I just I felt like this
was such a big prove it moment and they did
exactly that. Like I think the message here is, hey,
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you know what, you can go out and yeah, everybody
might try and copycat it. But at the same time,
schools are copycat and a high name, high profile coaches
that they just have to play buyouts on every year.
So I think having a team like Indiana win the
National championship is assigned to absolutely everybody across the board, Like,
if you're Michigan State, if you're Wisconsin, if you're Auburn,
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if you're half the Big Twelve, if you're half the ACC,
you don't have an excuse. You can't turn around and say, oh,
we can't do it. We just don't have what those
other schools have. Indiana figured it out. If Indiana can
figure it out, you can figure it out. I think
it's empowered. I think it's great for the sport. I
think it's a key, key moment. I don't think Indiana
is gonna win the championship. I'll tell you why, though.
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First let's get an update from Steve Disager on what's
going on in the scoreboard right now.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Let's start with the NBA scoreboard. The Lakers have dropped
consecutive games for the first time this season. They'll be
hosting a Christmas showdown with Houston. The Lakers lose and
it wasn't closed, one thirty two to one oh eight
at Phoenix. Luka Doncic was out for LA with a
Bruce caff Austin Reeves did return from injury and off
the bench, had seventeen points. Houston has the late game
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there at the Clippers late first half. Clippers up fifty
six fifty four clips with a seven and twenty one record.
Dallas beat Denver one thirty one to one, thirty Cooper
Flag thirty three points, Anthony Davis with thirty one. San
Antonio won its seventh straight game, won thirty to one
ten over Oklahoma City with a dominant last ten minutes.
They win despite thirty three points from Shay Gilgis Alexander
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at Minnesota, thirty eight for Anthony Edwards in a victory
against New York one fifteen to one. Oh four wins
for Milwaukee and Cleveland, and among the games in progress,
the Pistons trying to go to twenty four and six,
our leading early third quarter at Sacramento seventy seven to
sixty five, and it's only a third quarter. Well, they've
just excuse me, the third quarter. It is at Portland
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Magic seventy four fifty seven against Portland, and they've just
gone final at Utah, Memphis wins one thirty seven one,
twenty eights over the Jazz. Thirty seven points for Santi
Al dama As. For the college basketball, Saint John's defeated
Hartford eighty five fifty nine. Villanova won at Seaton Hall
sixty four fifty six among the thirteen NHL games. Detroit
(24:40):
in overtime beat Dallas Nashville in overtime one at Minnesota.
Brooks Kopka is leaving liv Golf to stay closer to home.
He had one year left on his contract. He can
still play the four majors thanks to a five year
exemption as a recent PGA Championship winner. Bryce Harper says
he will play for Team USA and the World Baseball
Classic in March. Pirates reportedly gave All star Ryan O'Hearn
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a two year deal. He played this past season first
base right field in DH for Baltimore and San Diego
and batted two eighty one. The White Sox signed left
he pitcher Sean Newcomb. He pitched for the Red Sox
and A's last year with an e ARAF two point
seventy three, mostly as a reliever. College football Bowl wins
for Western Kentucky and Louisville. The late game the Frisco
Bowl in texas As, Ohio U leading fourteen to three
(25:26):
over UNLV going to the fourth quarter to the NFL.
The two game suspension of Steelers wide receiver DK Metcalf
was upheld. He had appealed. Quarterback JJ McCarthy of the
Vikings will miss the Christmas game against the Lions. He
has a hairline fracture in his right hand. Green Bay
quarterback Jordan Love, still in concussion protocol, was limited at
practice today and his backup QB Malik Willis was limited
(25:49):
with the sore shoulder and the Commander's host Dallas On Christmas.
Washington quarterback Marcus Mariota missed another walkthrough due to hand
and quad injuries. The Pro Bowl teams were announced and
there are nineteen first timers. Four teams have six Pro
Bowlers each. Those four are Denver and Baltimore, Seattle and
San Francisco. The three AFC quarterbacks Josh Allen, Drake May
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and Justin Herbert. The three NFC quarterbacks Matthew Stafford, Dak
Prescott and Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
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I looked and according to my phone, right now, one
of my email accounts has one hundred and forty three
thousan five hundred and sixty four unread message. So I'm
I'm I'm on fire. I'm doing God's disgusts. Ye, well
there we go. I am with you on the one
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for Indiana, and I'll be honest like this is this
is the most real thing I can ever admit here
there is if Indiana was in Indiana, I think they
would be getting a lot more love to be the
national champion this year, Like if it was the same
exact Indiana team. We're just so not used to seeing
Indiana in these situations. I think there's been slow for
buy in, and so there is this moment for me.
(27:21):
You're right there, favored by six and a half currently
against Alabama. I just love proof of concept. So to me,
I look at how strong. Georgia has played of late,
and I look at Kirby smart and proof of concept.
From a coaching standpoint, He's got a national championship. Just
the process of getting through the playoff, the process of
being in a championship game, it's all so new. I
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have a hard time just imagining that the jump could
just be completed. For Indiana, it feels like there's still
a step. I know that's a terrible like actual analysis,
because there aren't many problems. Indiana did lose one of
their best pass rushers after the Big Ten Championship came
to a freak injury where he's high fiving fans. Really
unfortunate moment. They'll have to replace some of that pressure
(28:04):
that they'll be able to try and create. I think
it Indiana beats Alabama, I have no doubt about that.
It's just getting all the way to that championship when
everything gets a little tighter. I like a coach that's
been there, and Georgia playing as well as they are.
Even though I like Fernando more than I like Gunner,
I lean Georgia.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So you you think that Georgia is the best team
in the field.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I think that they're the best equipped for a playoff run.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Well, no, and that matters, right, I mean that I
think that it's Signetty's been in a lot of big games,
but not as the guy, right, And it's It's one
of those things that we struggle with, I think as
an industry in sports.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Talk media, sports.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Talk radio, podcast, TV, whatever the case may be, are
we capable of believing without it being just chalking it
up the blind faith or whole for whatever, that something
like this could happen before we actually see it happen.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Like, is there an analytical.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Way to approach this by saying, no, they actually are
equipped to face the kind of teams in the field
that they will face based on what we have seen
from them in the regular season, or will it just
be a completely different experience. Will they have a moment
like Penn State? For example, Indiana went to Penn State
this year and they out blew it. Mendoza didn't play
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a great game, threw an interception that put him in
a hole early on.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
They had to dig their way out of it.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
They did on one of the most spectacular final drives
with Amari Cooper in the back of the end zone.
The whole thing right, winning at Happy Valley for the
first time in program history, and a game that Indiana.
I mean, Indiana had a couple of those this year.
They went to Iowa. They never went at Iowa. They
went to Penn State, they never went to Penn State,
they did both. Do we just consider the playoff to
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be an entirely different atmosphere? Do we consider Indiana to
have had that much of an easy or that much
easier of a path than any of these other teams
in the field based on what we now know about
the level of competition in the SEC and what Oregon
is versus what Oregon has actually done, and what the
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best win on their resume really is, And how do
we feel about Texas Tech as a bit of a
wild card in all of this situation? Like, I just
don't think that Indiana and Georgia are that different except
for the thing that you've cited, which is Kirby Smart
is a national champion multiple times over, and that he
understands how to put his team in the best position
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to succeed. And you know, Caitlin de Bore may have
got me once, but he's not going to get me
when it matters.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think, for me. Everything you just said is so true.
But I also think I universally apply, you know, have
I seen it before to everything in life. Like if somebody,
if you're listening to this right now, and you're you know,
you work for a financial company and the absolute biggest
(31:03):
pitch of your life, you need somebody to make that
pitch that has never made it before. They got to
go in and do their first ever presentation. You're probably
a little bit nervous, right Like. I certainly remember my
first ever shot at doing a real radio show. I
remember my first day, my first TV shot live on
TV at ESPN. I'd never even done a camera test.
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I mean, we were live five minutes before. The producer
handed me a rundown and I said, what's a rundown?
I'd never seen a TV rundown before? Like, and I
was live on TV five minutes later, right Like, that
could have crashed and burned. Now I handled that moment,
and luckily enough, that helped change my life. I remember
the first time I stood up on the stage in
front of people with a musical instrument, right Like, it
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doesn't matter what you do. The first time you drive
a truck, you think you're prepared to drive a truck,
but then you get out there, you know you don't know, right,
So for me, it's sort of a truth in life
that you know so often we just don't know how
people handle new pressure. And so certainly that's that's a
cop out, and I'm willing to admit that's a cop out.
Like you can't. You can't judge Fernando Mendos on what
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he hasn't seen it. It's why I think these playoffs
are so important for quarterbacks, right Like we I do
believe that the current college football playoff system is going
to give us better prepared NFL quarterbacks because we have
more tape and evidence on how they handle pressure situations.
We are going to learn about Fernando through this playoffs.
We're going to learn about Dante Moore in these playoffs.
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We learned about Ty Simpson certainly in that first playoff game.
He definitely changed some minds in the way he played
that game. Like we're gonna learn about Gunner Stockton and
some like you know what I mean. Like, so I
do think that I'm universal in this. I want to
see it in pressure moments to believe it.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
No, it's fair and the idea of new pressure and
these different atmospheres, these different environments, these different all these different.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Variables that are are just such.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
A fun science experiment college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Is, but be on the G five.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
We don't need to get into the nonsense that well,
I mean, just a waste of time these two lane
ole miss games, and respectfully for James Madison, like there
that game should have come with a like a warning
label like a pack of cigarettes, like it's going to
be physically bad for your health to be on the
same field as a completely different caliber of athlete.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
It is borderline unsafe.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
But the idea of new pressure, the whole way through,
is the thing that makes this all fascinating because we
are in an atmosphere that creates these kind of situations
not with regularity, but we're still learning about all the
different all the different impacts of the new age of
college athletics, and we're seeing it on a huge stage,
and we're probably going to get an expanded playoff at
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some point. They haven't, I know, they have a deadline
for the sixteen team playoff as they're working towards the
different things like that and how much more television money
is going to be involved in all of this.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
I can't wait to find out. Man.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I genuinely don't know what to do with the College
Football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
This year, and that has to be the kind of
element that they were going for, right.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
It's not It's not parody in the NFL sense, because
there's so many more college programs and so many different
things where you're dealing with the amount of transfers and
the age of the athletes and all of this different
stuff that has to be considered. But it's it's a
closer version to that while still maintaining the things that
we love about college football.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Well, the College Football Playoff might be in for a
big change anyway, because the world is reacting to Notre Dame.
What's it mean for the future of the College Football Playoff?
And how is college football going to handle Notre Dame?
As soon as next season, we'll talk about it next
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. Bucket Fit's hanging out
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Speaker 2 (34:37):
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Speaker 3 (34:44):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz bucket Fit's hanging out
with you and for Jason Smith and Mike Harmen. Fancy
got a question for you. Yeah, what's up.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You're a big star Wars guy, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah. This is Christopher Lee, this is Count Dooku right here.
Really yeah. Wow. I don't know how I feel about that.
I don't know how I feel about that. You know,
here's the thing. I think sometimes actors try to be musicians,
and I hate it when somebody says you can't do
it because you're an actor, and that means you're not
going to be a good musician. That is not true. However,
(35:16):
I do think that there are we just need more
people in the world that, you know, maybe have some
honest people around them when it comes to the music
side of it. I just I think there's a lot
of people that are like, oh my god, but there's
like you just I don't know, man, it's just that
he should stick to acting. I'm just saying he should.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Sick.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I mean, I mean, buck, am I wrong? Were you
listening to that and you were like rooving with it? No?
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I was just I it's such an obscure poll by
bo the Count dook who's singing Christmas Care.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
To guitar, like hardcore guitar, not hardcore, kind.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Of beautiful people sort of riff going in the back
to it felt like it was a little Marilyn Mansony
on there.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, it's a very I'm impressed with the depth of
Chris miss and holiday music that Bow has has gone
to to provide us some additional entertainment.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I mean, I feel like if you're a person of
a certain level of competency, if you're excellent at what
you're doing. I'm not saying that that particularly. The name
is Christopher Lee.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Is that right? They hear that correctly? Okay, Uh so,
you know, I don't know what else he was in.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
He's not He's not Morgan Freeman or Robert de Niro
or whatever in a lot of movies.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Okay, I'm being disrespectful, then I'm being mean.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Like if you googled him, you know, I think so
I think so, Okay, well.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Now I feel bad.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
But either way, if you're if you're a person, like
if you're in the entertainment sphere and you're really good
at what you do, and you're like, yeah, I could
probably probably try my hand at this damn if they
tell me that I can't do it, I've done. I've
done a million different things that people have told me
I can't do my entire career.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Why can't I do this?
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I just feel like people get to a point where
either you get promoted to uh to a point of
failure where you've achieved your sense of competency, or if
you've you've eclipsed your sense of competency, and all of
a sudden, you're like, Ah, that was fun, and you're
really good at all this other stuff, and we put
you on this thing because we thought you'd be good
at it, because you're so good at everything else that
we put you in front of that it ends up
not being great. It's kind of like Dennis Miller and
(37:12):
Tony Tony Kornheiser on Monday Night Football, Like I got
what they were going for, but it never really quite worked.
Doesn't mean that those two people aren't excellent and everything
else that they do, but in that particular moment, it
just didn't quite hit. I feel the same about the
idea of people having that kind of crossover in the
entertainment space.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think, and I've never really thought about this until
this exact moment. So I'm going to workshop this with you.
But I feel like the accessibility, there are very few
creative endeavors that are more accessible to have in at
least a floor of competence and quality than music because
you can just buy it, like you can essentially, like
(37:53):
if you're doing a little drummer boy and you have
enough money in the bank, you can hire great studio musicians, right,
you can hire a great producer, hire a great mixer.
You can hire all of these and it's gonna cost
you a fraction a fraction of what it would cost.
Like if a musician wanted to make a movie, you're
talking about an astronomical amount of money. You know, if
you want to get into most other creative spaces, you're
(38:15):
talking about an astronomical amount of money. If you're a
very successful actor or model or any of these things,
Like you work in creative spaces and you are very successful.
I mean, for the for less than it would cost
you to get a fancy car, you could hire the
best musicians, mixers, and producers in the world and all
you got to do is sing over the track. Right, So, like,
(38:36):
I just think that the accessibility, especially if you're rich
enough to put out something it makes you feel like
you're better than you are. That's all, like I just
not better than you are as a person, better than
you are as a talent. Like you can have absolutely
no musical ability but still hire great musicians, producers and mixers,
and all of a sudden you're still gonna put out
something that sounds at least decent, so that empowers people
(38:57):
that maybe don't have the basic need to be empowered.
That was very condescending of Mendissent.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Well much less than I mean, there's there's always just
kind of an underlying current of condescension on the show.
I think it's also compative by the idea that you
could make significantly better music than the music that just
brought us back with Chad GPT and it's scary and
it's terrifying, and it's you know, I mean, there's you
can still kind of tell that it's not entirely authentic, uh,
(39:25):
but in certain situations you may not even care because.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
It's trendy and it's a it's an earworm and whatever.
It's that. We've never we've never lowered the bar more
than we have in the year.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Twenty twenty five for what passes as acceptable music.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Oh, and it's that like, AI in music is only
going to overtake all of it. And this is where
you know, people come in all the time, especially because
my past in music. Everybody says, oh, you must have
deep thoughts on it, like, oh my god, I should
use my mic to try and push back on it.
I look at all of it, and it's inevitable. I mean,
the fact is thirty forty years ago, when you would
(40:01):
hear an orchestra on a on a song that was
a bunch of real musicians. And then you know, if
you listen to like all the famous Coldplay records, that
you hear those big string sections, that's one guy with
a keyboard like he's using computer programs and he's playing
the strings on top of it. Nobody ever listened to
it and thought, wow, is that mostly artificial music or
(40:22):
is that real music? Like, it's inevitable. Musicians are going
to be replaced on all of these massive records. AI
is going to take over, and the modern generation isn't
gonna give it. Damn. As long as they can, as
long as they can bop to their K pop, they're
gonna be just fine, and it's it's it's inevitable. That's
again me ever the nihilist.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
I've never sounded older than Bop to their K pop.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Thank you, thank you so much. That might be, you know,
maybe that maybe that's what I'll call the next record
that I put out. But I can assure you, whatever
it is, it will sound better than a little drummer boy.
It just sounded. I am going to fix the rivalry
that is. I'm just being honest. Between a Notre Dame
and college football. I've got all of it. I've got
a way to solve it where college football can shut
Notre Dame down. I'll tell you how Next Bucking fits.
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