December 27, 2025 • 40 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (in for Jason Smith) open the show discussing longtime Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham being hired as Michigan's next coach... Is he the right guy for the job? College football insider Pete Fiutak joins to weigh in with his own thoughts and help the guys look ahead to the next round of the College Football Playoff. Plus, reacting to postgame comments from JJ Redick!
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Radio, grantings and welcome in another beautiful night here Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon, No
Jason Tonight back after the new year, and for me
I Cap twenty twenty five as well, alongside the stinking
genius Arnie span you for another night as we seek
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some shelter from the storm.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
We got a game with football scoring going on, Arnie scoring.
We got forty five points in the first half. That's
combined is better than everything.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
We had yesterday.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Let's stop pretending like we even care about that, and too,
how you doing the happy day after Christmas?
Speaker 7 (01:06):
It's good to hear from you again.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah we did that yesterday. I don't need to kiss
your ass.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I was just gonna give you a compliment, saying you're
really getting learning how to drive a show.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I thinking about another eight to ten years, you'll get
the hang of it. So congratulations.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
In eight to ten years, I hope to be uh
sitting on a porch or hanging out and a setup
like Hawkeyes got when he retreats from being an Avenger.
Speaker 8 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I don't know if Linda CARLINI will be waiting there
for me, but we'll see. You never can tell. At
Stick and Genius one, what's ed.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
That's over my head?
Speaker 8 (01:40):
Mike? There you go.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Well, we gotta we gotta get you. You gotta have some
of the more current pop culture references. We need to
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, do you want to give you a bunch of
six seven references while.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
We're at it?
Speaker 8 (01:52):
No?
Speaker 7 (01:52):
I know with that. Don't start with that, please, that
makes me sick of d oh.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No, that just made me feel like you've at least
paid attention to something outside of some bogus Twitter accounts
in a couple of months at Sticking Genius one where
you find them find me over at swollen Oh my
beloved Northwestern Wildcats with a Big Bowl victory earlier today. Uh,
that's about all. I'll say, Preston Stone three touchdowns, uh,
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six straight bowl wins for the Cats, because look, if
I'm gonna sit in the and drive, as you so
actually call it, I've got to make the show about
me for a chores. Like if it was a Mets
Jets or whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I thought we were gonna do four hours on the
on the game. That's why I was watching it so intense.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So intently. Yeah, just take it all sorts of notes.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
I was, you know, I actually had it on.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
And then once they dominated, I'm like, I'm not why
it was like twenty one nothing.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
At one point, I'm like to get this crap off.
I can't believe.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
It's funny though. It was like the first quarter was terrible, right,
it was punt punt.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I don't I don't believe that this is bringing in
major ratings. I have to show me.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You don't think it matters.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Do the math? Well, I guess they're making money, but.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That's just it, right, It's a TV show. It's like
all all the rest of it, right, So I mean,
we can start with the bowl games. We'll get to
winning him here in a moment. Pete Futec College Football
News will join us in about twenty minutes from now. Uh,
talk about this hiring and and all that's going on
in Bowl season as we get ready for the Elite
Eight next week. But you know, talking about the the
(03:22):
Bowl games and you know a lot of hand ringing,
and maybe it's not even drawing huge TV audiences, but
in the end, it's live programming, which means a higher
ad rate. Uh, And folks that are gonna stay with it, right,
you're not dipping even if the game starts getting out
of hand, as we've watched in many of these Bowl games.
One decision here or there, you know, Northwestern not kicking
(03:43):
a field goal late. Uh, they've got implications for a
lot of folks holding tickets in states all over this this.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, just if you're talking damn like, look, the game
was so many like all the other.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Bowl games too, they're so meaningless. It really doesn't make
an eference.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Other than meane to you.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, tell that to the alums, Tell that to the administration,
Tell that to nobody's the conference where the money flows
back in off of the share that they get from
going to these.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Nobody's spent go to that game.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Nobody said, I gotta go ahead and see, uh, Northwestern
in a bowl game take on Central Michigan. It's just
it's not happy and no offense against those schools. It's
most of the ball games are like that. Yeah, it's
just not gonna work that way.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But it's it's the change that is inevitable in terms
of condensing these it would seem based on the way
the playoffs have taken over and will continue to expand.
But in the end, if you if you're still in
the black, even if it's a smaller number, don't you
continue to do it?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
No, because again, too many people. You see all the
people opting out. It's starting to get absolutely crazy, coaches leaving.
I don't even know who's coaching, who's not core.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But you can't tell me anybody's going to a bowl
game or not going into a bowl game based on
a second string defensive end or a wide receiver opting
out of the game.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
No, well, yeah, it's mostly they're stars that are opting out, though, Mike,
And it's just it's it's happening way too much. How
many teams didn't even want to go to a bowl
game this year? What four or five you leave?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Notre Dame alone. They're still crying over in the court.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
But that's also Iowa State, Kansas State. I believe it's
just it's become too much and it coused a lot
of money to send these teams along with the you know,
the cheerleaders and the band and all that stuff, and
it's just not worth it anymore. We've we've passed it. Look,
you've got to evolve, and that's that's what we're doing.
That's why we have a playoff.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
We'll go from sixteen to twenty four and probably eventually
end up with thirty six sometime and stick with that.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But we don't need these ball games.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, we get to thirty seven, that would be a
rapid expansion, which might be I mean, I don't know
what the half life on all this stuff is or
gestation periods, but I predict I'll probably be.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Dead and gone before that happens.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
According to the report, they had nearly twenty eight thousand
at Ford Field today.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
They must have counted everybody three times. Then what could
I tell?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Perhaps they did it sold versus those that attended versus
I mean there's a million. Yeah, But it's all all
of that to say is it's still a TV show,
it's still live programming for three three hours, and if
financially it was absolutely not worth it to all the
parties involved, then it goes away.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
But it's not going away like you said.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's like I said, someone's making money.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Even if someone is making money but playing it there
they're bleeding left and right. This is when we get
into how many sports owners or whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
It's like, we didn't make any money. It's like how
many listeners.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
You think watch that game from start to finish? Saying
that that weren't a Northwestern fan or a Central Michigan fan.
And I'll even give you the people that made a
bet on the game warn't watching.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
The Generally people that bet don't, they might not look
at it at all.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
So I just don't think there was much interest. Nobody cares.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
And again that's I think that's what ninety percent of
the ball games now that we have a playoff, that's
what people want to see. That's what people are talking about,
and we still are.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
That people are getting on board that.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, well, people were complaining about James Madison and Tulane
and the way it was, you know, the ratings from
one to sixteen and we're still tweaking it.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
So we're still working on that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, I mean there's always going to be tweaks. You know,
it's a system that because you've got so many powers
fighting for control, right when you talk conference to conference,
commissioner to commissioner and go into that room, and the
lobbying that goes on, because that's a whole other part
of the problem, right, the dirty little secret of well
(07:54):
we need X, you need X.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Let's go through.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And then certainly the ratings and the game results didn't
help the back end of last weekend's playoffs. Why because
it was opposite one ended up being a fantastic Bears
Packers game. And even if you didn't like the Philly
game earlier, it's still the NFL.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
NFL wins you you know, you say.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That people are still watching these Bowl games. Only five
million people watched like the James Madison Oregon game, and
that's a playoff game and it's.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Five million people on a Saturday night in the holidays.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Well it went up against the NFL.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And I love Lucy sixty years ago.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
You know, look at the you know what so funny
you laugh at that if you look at like a
Thursday night ratings, unlike the sitcoms, and that's for ABC, CBS, NBC.
I don't think Fox was around at the time. They're
they're just like they're.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Monster talking thirty ratings.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, thirty, I mean that that's mind blowing.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
And we're talking about like ten shows of that those
those type of numbers.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
It was crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, but that's that's a long time ago. That's a
couple of generations removed.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Sorry, buddy, I gotta call it what it is now.
You're so fractured. Add to the fact that you have
different I mean, look, the way that things get measured
will always uh, you know, raise an eyebrow and try
to figure out how much is noise? Right, just like
that twenty eight thousand attendance for the ford Field Bowl
game today. But when we get into the fractionalization of
(09:35):
all of these these shows and options that folks have
in terms of streaming and how you consume thing and
when when it counts? Right, if I watch it a
week after premieres, how does does it count differently? Because
if mouth, shouldn't they get more ratings because I came
to it a week later? Because that meant it must
(09:56):
have meant something, you know what I mean, things like that,
So it's it's just curiosity. Like we got beat Futech
coming up in a couple of minutes, but a quick
reaction as we get the conversation started tonight, Winningham get
headed to the University of Michigan. You go back into
the timeline. Sharon Moore was fired on December tenth. Winningham
(10:17):
resigned on December twelfth. There was a coach in waiting
that was put in place there at Utah in twenty
twenty four, Scaly, So he's been waiting for his opportunity,
and as we know from historical precedence, guys get a
little anxious when jobs keep coming open and the incumbent
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is going to stay. The private equity terms were announced,
and then Winningham doesn't say he's retiring, It says he's entering.
The transfer plotal got a bit cheeky by the way
transfer portal opens, what the second second through the fifteenth,
So that comes up here in short order. But you
now have him heading to meet all the friends, family
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players as Michigan gets ready for the Citrus Bowl against Texas. Meanwhile,
the Las Vegas Bull you've got Utah getting set to
take on Nebraska. But Winningham is going to be the
grown up stabilize it. He's a non Michigan man. So
you go outside of what's been around the the program
(11:24):
these last few years that under invescal and I think
that's the right way to go, right. Initial response of all, right,
here's you know this coach who was here for a while,
mentor hey, he's with the Chargers. But maybe he comes
back saying no, no, no, anybody that was in there
at all, even if they were on the fringes and periphery,
(11:46):
and you can argue that they knew nothing of any malfeasance.
You've got to excise it right. This is a deep
cleaning and of a new tenant coming in.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Okay, First of all, I think the hiring O Whittingham
absolutely tremendous, Absolutely tremendous. Higher So they nailed it. They
got themselves a great coach. I heard Rob talking about
how he's sixty six years old. Sixty six is to
the new forty four. He's not too old. He'll be
just fine. And I think he's gonna do a tremendous job. Now,
maybe I didn't quite understand what was happening Mike, because
(12:19):
I thought when he retired or left Utah or whatever
you want to call it, that was to eventually take
the Michigan job. So and then as time went along,
I said, Okay, they're gonna offer it to the Bores
if Alabama loses, because Ala Obama's gonna want him to
go instead of you know, giving it to winning him.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
But thought that was never the case. I at least
I don't think it was. So I'm wondering what took
so long?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Did he really retire to take the job, But either way,
I think he's gonna be absolutely tremendous. He's on it
right away. I don't think it's gonna take him long
to solidify things. It may take him this first year.
We'll have some growing pains. I don't know, you're gonna
have to hit the portal real hard. I'm sure he'll
get some Utah players to come. I'm sure there'll be
(13:04):
people in the portal that would love to come to Michigan.
So I don't think it's gonna be like a Bear
and Wasteland or anything like that. But I think it's
a tremendous Hire By Michigan, even though he's not a
Michigan guy.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, I mean, you go down. I think that's the
one of the pluses, right, go win people over.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
How do you do that? You win? And that's what
he's done cons twenty one years.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
He was winning at Utah.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Well, but that's just did he's been there a minute.
Like what's great is I envisioned immediately Urban Meyer sitting
back like he was Emperor Palpatine because now you got
winning him on one side, Ryan Day on the other,
two guys that both coached under him, and now they
get to fight, and he could just stand there cackling
like a madman as they wow.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Seed their life. Savers.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
See, there's a reference, you know, because that goes all
the way back to nineteen eighty three. You probably saw
that one at some point.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
You're right, finally, you go.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I had to go back and bring it. You want
me to get a Maud reference in while we're.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
At Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
But Jack, she brought up a good point that Irvin
Myer's going to sit back and enjoy the Michigan Ohio
state battles and the people that were under him and
his tree and and all that effect.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
It was a great hire. It's a win win every
which way.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
So I think Michigan fans are probably really happy.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I just saw that.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Dave Portnoy was tweeting out that that they just absolutely
nailed it. He's a big Michigan guy, and I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Did he go there anyway?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You had, Brohm, you had, as you mentioned, debor like
there were not a number of rumors, and I think
some of it. I mean, look, it's still only two weeks,
two and a half weeks from did you believe that
the board rumors or that was not thought? I thought
it was interesting just for the idea of how short
sighted Alabama could be because or if you think, but
(14:48):
the fact that you were still able to roll into
a playoff, no pun intended a roll time that you
were able to get into the playoffs to be short
sighted and get rid of a guy like that, right,
see to me? Because the old rule of thumb in
all of this is you may not like your coach,
but then go back and look out there and see
what's available, right exactly, And I think some of this
(15:10):
with Whittingham, he's doing the due diligence right, He's trying
to figure out what the hell is going on?
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Right? What can be beginning? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But you know what I mean, some of it it
becomes the what what's gonna be uncovered? That becomes an
internal problem, right and solution versus whatever vestiges of the
NC double A are still out there that could be
actionable by them. Right because Sharon more serve suspensions and
all this, there was a bunch of turmoil and in
and out of the coaching box for the last couple
(15:40):
of years. Is that all done? Is there something else
to go through? As they uncover more in and peel
back the onion more? Would there be something more to
the And I'm not saying that that's one hundred percent locked,
but I think he wanted some guarantees of all right,
we're gonna be able to get hit the ground running,
get into the portal, keep who we want to keep,
(16:01):
steal who we want to steal, and keep this thing moving.
Because as bad as it was, it was a nine
to three season after schedule, but they still won with
inefficiencies at the quarterback position and wherever else.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Are you not an Underwood fan, then I take that year.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
No, I'm saying there's room for growth.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
He's gone anyway, so they're gonna have to get the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
You're right, he's not officially gone.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I thought when he first had edited the portal that
he was gonna go to LSU. Was that a bad
rumor out there or one of my bogus web bets.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Might have been one of your bad Twitter.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Right, It could have been over the place that's.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Tacking genius one.
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Speaker 8 (19:02):
What's going on? So you've got an Arnie Spaniard in
the building, isn't it the James Jason Smith Show?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
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Speaker 8 (19:08):
You know, wow, you got the big man there.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Hey, Fete, how you doing? My friend? It's good to
see to speak to you again. And hey, you know
I want to rask you right off the bat.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
This has got to be a great hire for you
must love this thing because it started to look like
it was going to be a tough hire.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
And now you kind of get your guy, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
I know I settled buying to this post narrative that
no one wanted this got this gig, it's it's a
it's Michigan, it's no name was off the charts here,
and it would have been tough to get some of
these guys. And you know, some of them just didn't
want to talk, mainly because they didn't want to interview.
And then have it looked like, oh, well, you know this,
(19:49):
I'm rejecting you before you reject me kind of thing. Uh.
But yeah, Kyle winning him all along. I mean he
retired from you know, Utah coaching. He didn't retired, He
just you know, decided I'm stepping away from the job.
And he still wanted to coach. He wanted to, you know,
is he putty, I want to be in the transfer portal.
I want to you know, I want a bigger gigs
than this, And he got one. And you know, look
(20:09):
for a program like Michigan that just needs a little
tweaking for the next three to five years. Yeah, let's
see what he could do in this whole l idea
also that oh well he's not your young guy to
build it on for the future. Well who is I mean,
most of these coaches only last three to five years anyway,
So let's see what he can do with just a
little tweak in here, Pete.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
That was one of the things we're talking about a
little bit before.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
When you're talking about age, who cares everybody job hops.
Very few guys are like winning him where you're at
a place for twenty years. But the other part is
that he's not a Michigan guy. So it's a fresh
set of eyes and nobody that can be touched tangentially
or substantively by what's going on these last few years.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Absolutely, So, I mean, look, first of all, being a
Michigan guy, I means do you have a whole lot
losing in there? Before? You know, he actually started winning,
so uh yeah, you know who cares all the sausages?
Maybe guy national title under Harbaugh and all that. So yeah,
you got you want to fresh start and you know,
outside of you know the basic you know, normal you know,
big college little stuff here and there, there hasn't been
(21:09):
a whiff of scandal at Utah. There's no issues there.
And I go on a bunch of radio stations in
Utah just over the years, and I've always confided what
he's been doing to being like a big, big ten
program like he made Utah essentially the new Wisconsin back
when Wisconsin was Wisconsin, where big guys on the line,
you don't screw up on penalties or turnovers, you win
(21:31):
the time possession battle, You run, run, run. You have
guys up front who are more powerful than everyone else,
play tough defense, and that's possible to do if you
have an ulti culture discipline team. And the side that
they were able to get worked great. They made a
tweak to more of a pro style offense. Unfortunately they
had a hard time finding the right quarterback with Cam
Rising always hurt. So now let's see what they do.
(21:53):
I can't imagine if Brice Underwood takes off, and if
he does find just go get another quarterback, because again
you're Michigan pretty much get whatever you want there.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Yeah, Kim Rising does have another year left.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
I saw that. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Is that that's but let me ask you about Underwood.
I thought he was going to leave. What did you
think about him when when he signed a year ago?
And what do you think about him right now? It
doesn't sound like you're really would be broken up if
he ended up leaving.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I'm not broke. I mean really, it's about just the
position and the program, and you can get quarterbacks that
there's so many quarterbacks out there in the system, right,
It's so crazy all these guys who are jumping into
the portal, Like where do they think they're going to go?
Like there are only so many jobs that are open,
and okay, so maybe they're looking for extra money. Maybe
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they're looking for the deal like Darius meant to got
last year jumping from Tulane to Duke and you know,
got paid a big ton of money and hey, won
an ACC championship. He was really good for the Blue Devils.
Maybe that's what some of these guys are looking for.
But all these guys are in the portal. Okay, well,
let's see if they can fit certain places. And then
all of a sudden, what happens. Do you have a
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Trinidad Chambliss or someone like that who comes from out
of nowhere and is one of the Heisman favorites, or
even Trenando Mendozo was a hot prospect but definitely not
quite this so you never quite know. And so all
these big time guys who you have all the talent
in the world. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You know,
sometimes you have a guy like Dante Moore who wasn't
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really that great at UCLA, came back set for a year,
and all of a sudden, boom it works. So but
I don't fail that to say that I don't think
Underwood would leave.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Now, Jason Smith show with me, Mike Harman, the venerable
Arnie Span you're in for Jason Smith. Pete deferred to
him like you know, all non Western cultures to their elders.
The way this thing started at College Football News is
where you find him at Pete futec Pete. Let's go
to the world of litigation, where you've got Pavia looking
(23:55):
to get himself extra year. Going off to James Nausey
move drafted in twenty twenty three to the NBA Draft, traded,
his rights are part were conferred to the Knicks, and
now he's gonna go become a Baylor Bear. Why do
you think this plays out? And did his heisman Shenanigans costume?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
I don't have the problem with that. The heisman thing is,
you know, just immature. Okay, fine, but I kind of
you know, he basically did what every Heisman loser really thinks.
They just don't say it out loud. But that's of
course you see to look at like Peyton Manning's face
or you know, some of these other guys who thought
they were gonna win and didn't even though he wasn't
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gonna win the heids of this year Pavio. So yeah,
there's a little delusion there, but yeah, I'm gonna they're
still you know, relatively young kids, you know, to the
most parts of probably who's like what forty two at
this point, I mean, it's uh, good, go get a
job already, I guess, or just stay or just stay
in college as long as you can. But I get it,
(24:58):
you know, I would be not looking back. I'd love
to be back in college and live the life. You
know again, who.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Did John Jugar Mellencamp hold on to sixteen as long
as you can.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Especially getting paid for it now, I mean, like it's
a great deal. I mean, you get paid more than
you get paid as an NFL rookie. So I get it.
So give it a shot, see what you can do.
But at some point this is getting kind of ridiculous.
Like I still think the most. The craziest part through
all this is during this bowl season, a lot of
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teams had to opt out. Why because they couldn't find
their players? Yeah, because they scattered. And like when this happened,
every other college kid on the planet was studying for finals.
Like you're so these guys aren't like studying for finals.
You can't grab enough students. Who are you know, college
students to play college football. I mean, so it's just like,
(25:53):
come on, It's just it's just getting kind of ridiculous
at this point when you get guys who just won't leave.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Yeah, you know, Pete.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Of course, before I say, oh, let's break down the
playoffs in the Miami Ohio State and Oregon Texas Tech
and stuff like that, if I told you we're gonna
spend the next twenty minutes breaking down f IU in
Texas San Antonio and then switch over to the Central
Michigan Northwestern game and then Minnesota New Mexico, you're gonna
hang up the phone on me.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Enough is enough, Pete? Enough enough?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I don't care if thanky Pete, Yeah, perfect, but.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
You over Repete.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
No, enough is enough. Nobody cares about the game. I
really don't believe that it has television numbers.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Nobody's going to the game.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
They tried to tell me that twenty three thousand or
at the Northwestern game.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
I'm not buying it.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I just don't think we need it anymore, especially when
we started expanding the playoffs. I mean, seriously, Pete, anybody
asking you to break down any of these or any
of these other Bowl games.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
I mean, tomorrow, we got a whole slew of them.
Not what makes a different? Does not one care you
care about? Bete?
Speaker 8 (27:02):
Well, but there's here's the thing. Yet, we kind of
maybe care about Clemson ten State if you're you know,
a national, but there's so many of them. And look,
what else are you gonna do? Talk to your family?
I mean, what else you got going on? I mean,
especially if you live in a place that's cold. I mean,
you know, there's nothing to do. You're you're gonna watch
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you know another you know, the born identity marathon that
keeps happening on start. I mean, like, look, here's the thing.
First of all, the problem is these bowl games, unlike
that other than the Hawaii Bowl and this uh uh
uh the Rake Ball between New Mexico and Minnesota, these
Bowl games have been awful. So the big the bigger
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problem is that just you know, who's watching these things?
Who's staying watching these things because they're just so bad
and there's no real reason for it, because last year
they were really good, Like every game was competitive, every game.
I mean, it's not like they're not trying or anything,
but you just have so many disjointed teams with so
many coaches who are gone, so many players who are
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you know, missmatch of players who are going. So it's
just fun. It's like, you know, trying to handicap preseason games.
But like I said, who's watching these things? I can
tell you a very large stegment of the public to
try to pay off their holiday gift giving. What's going
on as we speak.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Exactly, And Pete does spots all over the country, so
he's got to know everything about Central Michigan and teams
of that. Ill all right, Pete, So really quickly as
we get to the playoffs, you still got some days
to chop this up. What stands out amongst the four games,
you know, in terms of where you're looking for an
upset and maybe a little bit of chaos.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
I'm look, I'm Texas Tech I'm really curious about it.
It's gonna be about the pass rushing all these games.
I don't think, oh, this is going to have what
it takes to hang with Georgia. It's just they got
their fun out of the way. They got their exorcism
of Layne Kiffin against Kalaane. Uh so now they got
the win. It's a it's been a good, good run.
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I think they have a problem with Georgia. I mean,
the problem with Indiana Alabama is it's still Alabama. It's
just hard. I don't care if you can analyze it
to death or yeah, of course Indiana should beat this
Alabama team, and isn't that great. It's still Indiana versus Alabama.
It's just hard. But I do think Indiana pulls that off.
So the real key is here the pass rush. For
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we all the NFL talent on the Miami defensive front
and all the talent on the Texas Tech defensive front,
can those can that be the neutralizing factor against these
Big ten teams? And I honestly don't think anybody watched
one Texas Tech game this year. I sure know if
the College Football Playoff Committee didn't until the Big Twelve
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championships is like, oh wow, that's that seems like a yeah,
this team is really good. You know, it's almost it's
it's got the talent. I don't know if it has
the quarterback situation. Barry Morton's a nice veteran. I don't
think he's quite there. And now it's about the big ten.
I mean, look, Ohio State, Indiana, and in Oregon. They
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could pretty much set the tone for the rest of
college football by being like, all right, we only got
a few teams in, but all of them are pretty
good and let's see what they do going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, for Texas Tech, it just means they need a
better lobbyist in that room for next year.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Pete.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
You know what the funniest the highest part about that
is also is that everyone's act be all, well, this
is the best team money can buy, like compared to Alabama,
like compared to like Oregon, who is like the forefront
of you know, sports marketing, and they look, it's all legal,
it's all above board now. But oh well, they bought
themselves a team so everyone could do that. Everyone could
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have had David Bailey, Romelo Heighten, great players of Texas
Tech got They just did it really well this year,
or you go.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Back in time and start comparing them to teams from Alabama,
Georgia and others of the past. At Pete few Tech,
where you find him on Twitter, Pete, enjoy the holiday
run blessed times with you and your family, and we appreciate.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
You being part of the show.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
I'm going guy.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Thanks, He's the best. Joints is each and every week
on the hotline. College footballnews dot com is the website.
He's a steaking genius. At Arnie Spanners, you see how
excited he was to talk to you, Well, she went
straight to me. I felt offended. Let's go over to
the news desk to a man who is above reproach,
(31:22):
a man that we all tower in his presence because
he's so mighty.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I gave you.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Gave him yesterday off I did, and yet I still worked.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
By the way, as you brought up that I'm sitting
at a newsdesk, I'm glad you brought that up. The
reaction to Arnie appearing on the show tonight by the
guest was Pete, which just went.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Nuts at the beginning. The greatest thing, ever.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
How about that I'm a pretty big deal. Just ask me.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
That is the definition of news. Nobody has reacted to
Argy like that way. In the Lay Bowl game tonight
in Dallas, ut San Antonio is still up thirty one
fourteen over Florida International, which about fifty yards passing fifty
yards rushing. UTSA was actually down fourteen to nothing early
in this one, including giving up a punt return TD
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in Phoenix, Minnesota in overtime beat New Mexico twenty to seventeen.
Northwestern beat Central Michigan thirty four to seven. In Detroit.
The Wildcats led seven nothing late first tap. They have
won six straight bowl games. There are eight bowl games
on Saturday, including Penn State at Yankee Stadium against Clemson
and at Fenway Pack It's Yukon against Army.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
It is official.
Speaker 10 (32:31):
Michigan's new head football coach is Kyle Whittingham from Utah,
where he spent the last twenty one years. There are
two NFL games on Saturday, Texans at Chargers and then
Ravens at Packers. Green Bay quarterback Jordan Love will not
play Saturday night due to his concussion, so Malik Willis
will start, but he's been limited at practice this week
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with the shore shoulder and quarterback for the ravens. Lamar
Jackson doubtful for the game with the bruise back, so
Tyler Huntley could start the big game Sunday on five,
Philadelphia at Buffalo. For the Eagles, linebacker Nikobe Dean out
with a hamstring injury. Tackle Lane Johnson still out with
a foot injury. Bill's quarterback Josh Allen is due to
play despite a foot injury. He practiced fully today. Buffalo
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kicker Matt Crater is still out with a quad injury.
The Patriots say there's still a chance running back Traveon
Henderson plays Sunday after a concussion last week, but they'll
be missing two injured wide receivers. The Raiders will not
play defensive end Max Crosby on Sunday against the Giants
due to a knee injury, and tight end Brock Bowers
is on ir Steelers pass rusher TJ. Watt will miss
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another game this weekend after the lung injury. Butt linebacker
Nick Herbig does return. In the NBA, Boston won at
Indiana won forty to one twenty two. Jalen Brown thirty points,
his eight straight thirty point game Chicago over Philadelphia thanks
to a ten oh run at the end one O nine,
one two, despite thirty one points from Joel Embiid at Memphis,
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tennisist for John Morant in a win against Milwaukee, victories
from Miami, Charlotte and Washington, which was five and twenty
three geez but shot fifty nine percent from the floor,
and rep Toronto one thirty eight to one seventeen. Wow,
they've just gone. Final Phoenix wins at New Orleans one
fifteen to one oh eight, thirty points for Devin Booker
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halftime Detroit with a record of twenty four and six
lead sixty eight sixty seven at Utah and the late
game through one quarter at Portland as the Blazers head
of the Clippers thirty five to twenty five. College basketball,
still on Christmas, break back to.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You, appreciate you. That's Steve di Seger at the news desk.
We got Ian, we got Alex, We've got Shay in
the back, and of course that's the stinking genius over
there already. Span you'ro ount Mike Carment, thanks for being
with us here tonight as you celebrate the holidays. If
you're on the roads, be smart, be safe, weather all
across this great land. Just let it take a little
bit longer. You'll get there. It'll be okay. I had
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to basically do a you know, the old traffic cone
test when you're you're doing your driving test. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, to do that today because some idiot must
have been flying down the highway and plastic and glass
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should be. As we continue, we'll take a stay in
the NBA for a minute. Steve gave you some updates
from the games. I want to talk about what happened
(35:36):
last night. As we were getting off the air, clips
started circulating of a certain coach who has an issue
with my usual co host. They got beef. Maybe we
can revisit that coming up next here on Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I celebrate Dua Lipa's entire catalog. Welcome back in Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon. Of course,
that's out in John and that's Arnie Spanner over there.
He's hanging out with us tonight at Stinking Genius one
where you find him find me over at Swollen Dome. Now,
as we got off the air yesterday, we'd had the
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chaos that was the latest Laker debacle.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yeah, oh that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
As they got drummed by the Houston Rockets. Rockets now
eighteen and ten, second in the Southwest Division, but resplendent,
resounding victory over the Lakers, an absolute beat down. One
nineteen ninety six was your final. So you're just seeing
as it's starting to unravel a little bit, play some
(36:45):
cupcakes early, put up some big points and well it's
been some tough sledding these last couple of weeks. Austin
Reeves is hurt, might miss a month, maybe more as
he reinjured. Once you start getting into calf injuries, everybody
gets a little bit nervous and you gotta give it,
you know, if you say I didn't know it was.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Gonna be a month, geez, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Well, but you're also going to air on the side
of caution because we've seen how quickly that leads to
other more disastrous and harmful long standing issues. And Reeves
was a guy that was becoming a star, a lot
of folks really getting excited about what he and Luca
can be. We should be noted during this current slide.
Luca his shooting percentage is down six percent, defensive ratings whatever.
(37:28):
I kind of chuckle whenever we talk about the Lakers
because I said the word defense, so we kind of
you know, Lebron is basically a one end of the
court player at this point. He's ola defense would not
even begin to describe it oftentimes, and then he stays
behind crying for a fall to where it becomes a
(37:49):
five on four break the other way. Plenty of incidences
of those in this three and six range that they've
been going to this during this recent slide where they're
getting blown out a bunch arny and well, yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
I just wanted to say this.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Out of the sixteen teams that are in the playoffs
right now, the Lakers are the only team that are
in the in the red in the negative scoring differential.
Everybody else is in the green. It's in the plus.
You know, take that for what it's worth. But you
could tell they're starting to go backwards. They've lost three
in a row, as you mentioned, the Reeves injury, and
it's certainly not going to get better with Lebron's defense.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
He's just a bad defender right now. That's just the
way it is, Mike. There's no way to sugar coated.
The guy just can't play defense.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, let's hear from JJ Raddick, who once took on
Jason Smith as he referenced just some random account you
know at Jason Smith blank blank blank, and we were
on air Ian Roddy are executive producers producer tonight. He
was in the back and he heard it live and went,
wait did he just say it like? And it became
obviously a fixture of the show. Hi, JJ, because we're
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gonna do it again with what he had to say yesterday.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
The two words of the day we're effort in execution,
and you know, I feel like when we've done both
of those things at a high level, we've been a
good basketball team and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team.
And tonight we were a terrible basketball team. And that
started legitimately right away because we don't care enough right now.
And that's that's the part that bothers you a lot.
We don't care enough to like do the things that
are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You know, we had it, We had it.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
This is this is I always say this about you know, culture,
I always say this about a team being a you know,
a good team, being a functioning organism, organism. Can it
can change like that? We don't have it right now. Again,
it goes back to what I said the other night.
It's it's a matter of making the choice. And too
often we have guys that don't want to make that choice.
And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so
(39:40):
Saturday practice I told the guys it's going to be uncomfortable,
the meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing
another fifty three games like this.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
So another beat down, and this one has become like
one of those the old Spider Man meme, because now
it's old.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
It's actually right.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
They want to get each other because, you know, you've
got Reddick saying that stuff, and what swirled up on
the interwebs was when he was back as an ESPN analyst,
where it was a lot of excuse making, and there's
a fine line sometimes between reasons and excuses. You could
say the rosters hampered by the fact that Lebron opted in.
(40:17):
I think that was the Lakers' worst case scenario to everything,
when he opted in to get his fifty three million
dollars for the year, because look, if you really wanted
to go win, go somewhere else, go be their guy. Instead,
he comes back and it bogs things down. We talk
about defensive effort, but it's now swirling and because he's
not calling out any of the role players in terms
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of effort and execution.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I had no problem with what JJ said. I know
we're short on time, so maybe we could pick it
up next hour, but I have no problem what he said,
how he said it, And if people want him to
point fingers, that's behind the closed doors.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
We'll do some more of that as we continue, as
well as a little bit of Pete Carroll and they
sent their star player home, he was not happy.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Radio, grantings and welcome in another beautiful night here Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon, No
Jason Tonight back after the new year, and for me
I Cap twenty twenty five as well, alongside the stinking
genius Arnie span you for another night as we seek
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some shelter from the storm.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
We got a game with football scoring going on, Arnie scoring.
We got forty five points in the first half. That's
combined is better than everything.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
We had yesterday.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Let's stop pretending like we even care about that, and too,
how you doing the happy day after Christmas?
Speaker 7 (01:06):
It's good to hear from you again.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah we did that yesterday. I don't need to kiss
your ass.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I was just gonna give you a compliment, saying you're
really getting learning how to drive a show.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I thinking about another eight to ten years, you'll get
the hang of it. So congratulations.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
In eight to ten years, I hope to be uh
sitting on a porch or hanging out and a setup
like Hawkeyes got when he retreats from being an Avenger.
Speaker 8 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I don't know if Linda CARLINI will be waiting there
for me, but we'll see. You never can tell. At
Stick and Genius one, what's ed.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
That's over my head?
Speaker 8 (01:40):
Mike? There you go.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Well, we gotta we gotta get you. You gotta have some
of the more current pop culture references. We need to
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, do you want to give you a bunch of
six seven references while.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
We're at it?
Speaker 8 (01:52):
No?
Speaker 7 (01:52):
I know with that. Don't start with that, please, that
makes me sick of d oh.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No, that just made me feel like you've at least
paid attention to something outside of some bogus Twitter accounts
in a couple of months at Sticking Genius one where
you find them find me over at swollen Oh my
beloved Northwestern Wildcats with a Big Bowl victory earlier today. Uh,
that's about all. I'll say, Preston Stone three touchdowns, uh,
(02:16):
six straight bowl wins for the Cats, because look, if
I'm gonna sit in the and drive, as you so
actually call it, I've got to make the show about
me for a chores. Like if it was a Mets
Jets or whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I thought we were gonna do four hours on the
on the game. That's why I was watching it so intense.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So intently. Yeah, just take it all sorts of notes.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
I was, you know, I actually had it on.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
And then once they dominated, I'm like, I'm not why
it was like twenty one nothing.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
At one point, I'm like to get this crap off.
I can't believe.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
It's funny though. It was like the first quarter was terrible, right,
it was punt punt.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I don't I don't believe that this is bringing in
major ratings. I have to show me.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You don't think it matters.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Do the math? Well, I guess they're making money, but.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That's just it, right, It's a TV show. It's like
all all the rest of it, right, So I mean,
we can start with the bowl games. We'll get to
winning him here in a moment. Pete Futec College Football
News will join us in about twenty minutes from now. Uh,
talk about this hiring and and all that's going on
in Bowl season as we get ready for the Elite
Eight next week. But you know, talking about the the
(03:22):
Bowl games and you know a lot of hand ringing,
and maybe it's not even drawing huge TV audiences, but
in the end, it's live programming, which means a higher
ad rate. Uh, And folks that are gonna stay with it, right,
you're not dipping even if the game starts getting out
of hand, as we've watched in many of these Bowl games.
One decision here or there, you know, Northwestern not kicking
(03:43):
a field goal late. Uh, they've got implications for a
lot of folks holding tickets in states all over this this.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, just if you're talking damn like, look, the game
was so many like all the other.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Bowl games too, they're so meaningless. It really doesn't make
an eference.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Other than meane to you.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, tell that to the alums, Tell that to the administration,
Tell that to nobody's the conference where the money flows
back in off of the share that they get from
going to these.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Nobody's spent go to that game.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Nobody said, I gotta go ahead and see, uh, Northwestern
in a bowl game take on Central Michigan. It's just
it's not happy and no offense against those schools. It's
most of the ball games are like that. Yeah, it's
just not gonna work that way.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But it's it's the change that is inevitable in terms
of condensing these it would seem based on the way
the playoffs have taken over and will continue to expand.
But in the end, if you if you're still in
the black, even if it's a smaller number, don't you
continue to do it?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
No, because again, too many people. You see all the
people opting out. It's starting to get absolutely crazy, coaches leaving.
I don't even know who's coaching, who's not core.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But you can't tell me anybody's going to a bowl
game or not going into a bowl game based on
a second string defensive end or a wide receiver opting
out of the game.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
No, well, yeah, it's mostly they're stars that are opting out, though, Mike,
And it's just it's it's happening way too much. How
many teams didn't even want to go to a bowl
game this year? What four or five you leave?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Notre Dame alone. They're still crying over in the court.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
But that's also Iowa State, Kansas State. I believe it's
just it's become too much and it coused a lot
of money to send these teams along with the you know,
the cheerleaders and the band and all that stuff, and
it's just not worth it anymore. We've we've passed it. Look,
you've got to evolve, and that's that's what we're doing.
That's why we have a playoff.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
We'll go from sixteen to twenty four and probably eventually
end up with thirty six sometime and stick with that.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But we don't need these ball games.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, we get to thirty seven, that would be a
rapid expansion, which might be I mean, I don't know
what the half life on all this stuff is or
gestation periods, but I predict I'll probably be.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Dead and gone before that happens.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
According to the report, they had nearly twenty eight thousand
at Ford Field today.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
They must have counted everybody three times. Then what could
I tell?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Perhaps they did it sold versus those that attended versus
I mean there's a million. Yeah, But it's all all
of that to say is it's still a TV show,
it's still live programming for three three hours, and if
financially it was absolutely not worth it to all the
parties involved, then it goes away.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
But it's not going away like you said.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's like I said, someone's making money.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Even if someone is making money but playing it there
they're bleeding left and right. This is when we get
into how many sports owners or whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
It's like, we didn't make any money. It's like how
many listeners.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
You think watch that game from start to finish? Saying
that that weren't a Northwestern fan or a Central Michigan fan.
And I'll even give you the people that made a
bet on the game warn't watching.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
The Generally people that bet don't, they might not look
at it at all.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
So I just don't think there was much interest. Nobody cares.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
And again that's I think that's what ninety percent of
the ball games now that we have a playoff, that's
what people want to see. That's what people are talking about,
and we still are.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
That people are getting on board that.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, well, people were complaining about James Madison and Tulane
and the way it was, you know, the ratings from
one to sixteen and we're still tweaking it.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
So we're still working on that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, I mean there's always going to be tweaks. You know,
it's a system that because you've got so many powers
fighting for control, right when you talk conference to conference,
commissioner to commissioner and go into that room, and the
lobbying that goes on, because that's a whole other part
of the problem, right, the dirty little secret of well
(07:54):
we need X, you need X.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Let's go through.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And then certainly the ratings and the game results didn't
help the back end of last weekend's playoffs. Why because
it was opposite one ended up being a fantastic Bears
Packers game. And even if you didn't like the Philly
game earlier, it's still the NFL.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
NFL wins you you know, you say.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That people are still watching these Bowl games. Only five
million people watched like the James Madison Oregon game, and
that's a playoff game and it's.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Five million people on a Saturday night in the holidays.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Well it went up against the NFL.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And I love Lucy sixty years ago.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
You know, look at the you know what so funny
you laugh at that if you look at like a
Thursday night ratings, unlike the sitcoms, and that's for ABC, CBS, NBC.
I don't think Fox was around at the time. They're
they're just like they're.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Monster talking thirty ratings.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, thirty, I mean that that's mind blowing.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
And we're talking about like ten shows of that those
those type of numbers.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
It was crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, but that's that's a long time ago. That's a
couple of generations removed.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Sorry, buddy, I gotta call it what it is now.
You're so fractured. Add to the fact that you have
different I mean, look, the way that things get measured
will always uh, you know, raise an eyebrow and try
to figure out how much is noise? Right, just like
that twenty eight thousand attendance for the ford Field Bowl
game today. But when we get into the fractionalization of
(09:35):
all of these these shows and options that folks have
in terms of streaming and how you consume thing and
when when it counts? Right, if I watch it a
week after premieres, how does does it count differently? Because
if mouth, shouldn't they get more ratings because I came
to it a week later? Because that meant it must
(09:56):
have meant something, you know what I mean, things like that,
So it's it's just curiosity. Like we got beat Futech
coming up in a couple of minutes, but a quick
reaction as we get the conversation started tonight, Winningham get
headed to the University of Michigan. You go back into
the timeline. Sharon Moore was fired on December tenth. Winningham
(10:17):
resigned on December twelfth. There was a coach in waiting
that was put in place there at Utah in twenty
twenty four, Scaly, So he's been waiting for his opportunity,
and as we know from historical precedence, guys get a
little anxious when jobs keep coming open and the incumbent
(10:39):
is going to stay. The private equity terms were announced,
and then Winningham doesn't say he's retiring, It says he's entering.
The transfer plotal got a bit cheeky by the way
transfer portal opens, what the second second through the fifteenth,
So that comes up here in short order. But you
now have him heading to meet all the friends, family
(11:02):
players as Michigan gets ready for the Citrus Bowl against Texas. Meanwhile,
the Las Vegas Bull you've got Utah getting set to
take on Nebraska. But Winningham is going to be the
grown up stabilize it. He's a non Michigan man. So
you go outside of what's been around the the program
(11:24):
these last few years that under invescal and I think
that's the right way to go, right. Initial response of all, right,
here's you know this coach who was here for a while,
mentor hey, he's with the Chargers. But maybe he comes
back saying no, no, no, anybody that was in there
at all, even if they were on the fringes and periphery,
(11:46):
and you can argue that they knew nothing of any malfeasance.
You've got to excise it right. This is a deep
cleaning and of a new tenant coming in.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Okay, First of all, I think the hiring O Whittingham
absolutely tremendous, Absolutely tremendous. Higher So they nailed it. They
got themselves a great coach. I heard Rob talking about
how he's sixty six years old. Sixty six is to
the new forty four. He's not too old. He'll be
just fine. And I think he's gonna do a tremendous job. Now,
maybe I didn't quite understand what was happening Mike, because
(12:19):
I thought when he retired or left Utah or whatever
you want to call it, that was to eventually take
the Michigan job. So and then as time went along,
I said, Okay, they're gonna offer it to the Bores
if Alabama loses, because Ala Obama's gonna want him to
go instead of you know, giving it to winning him.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
But thought that was never the case. I at least
I don't think it was. So I'm wondering what took
so long?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Did he really retire to take the job, But either way,
I think he's gonna be absolutely tremendous. He's on it
right away. I don't think it's gonna take him long
to solidify things. It may take him this first year.
We'll have some growing pains. I don't know, you're gonna
have to hit the portal real hard. I'm sure he'll
get some Utah players to come. I'm sure there'll be
(13:04):
people in the portal that would love to come to Michigan.
So I don't think it's gonna be like a Bear
and Wasteland or anything like that. But I think it's
a tremendous Hire By Michigan, even though he's not a
Michigan guy.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, I mean, you go down. I think that's the
one of the pluses, right, go win people over.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
How do you do that? You win? And that's what
he's done cons twenty one years.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
He was winning at Utah.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Well, but that's just did he's been there a minute.
Like what's great is I envisioned immediately Urban Meyer sitting
back like he was Emperor Palpatine because now you got
winning him on one side, Ryan Day on the other,
two guys that both coached under him, and now they
get to fight, and he could just stand there cackling
like a madman as they wow.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Seed their life. Savers.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
See, there's a reference, you know, because that goes all
the way back to nineteen eighty three. You probably saw
that one at some point.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
You're right, finally, you go.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I had to go back and bring it. You want
me to get a Maud reference in while we're.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
At Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
But Jack, she brought up a good point that Irvin
Myer's going to sit back and enjoy the Michigan Ohio
state battles and the people that were under him and
his tree and and all that effect.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
It was a great hire. It's a win win every
which way.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
So I think Michigan fans are probably really happy.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I just saw that.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Dave Portnoy was tweeting out that that they just absolutely
nailed it. He's a big Michigan guy, and I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Did he go there anyway?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You had, Brohm, you had, as you mentioned, debor like
there were not a number of rumors, and I think
some of it. I mean, look, it's still only two weeks,
two and a half weeks from did you believe that
the board rumors or that was not thought? I thought
it was interesting just for the idea of how short
sighted Alabama could be because or if you think, but
(14:48):
the fact that you were still able to roll into
a playoff, no pun intended a roll time that you
were able to get into the playoffs to be short
sighted and get rid of a guy like that, right,
see to me? Because the old rule of thumb in
all of this is you may not like your coach,
but then go back and look out there and see
what's available, right exactly, And I think some of this
(15:10):
with Whittingham, he's doing the due diligence right, He's trying
to figure out what the hell is going on?
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Right? What can be beginning? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But you know what I mean, some of it it
becomes the what what's gonna be uncovered? That becomes an
internal problem, right and solution versus whatever vestiges of the
NC double A are still out there that could be
actionable by them. Right because Sharon more serve suspensions and
all this, there was a bunch of turmoil and in
and out of the coaching box for the last couple
(15:40):
of years. Is that all done? Is there something else
to go through? As they uncover more in and peel
back the onion more? Would there be something more to
the And I'm not saying that that's one hundred percent locked,
but I think he wanted some guarantees of all right,
we're gonna be able to get hit the ground running,
get into the portal, keep who we want to keep,
(16:01):
steal who we want to steal, and keep this thing moving.
Because as bad as it was, it was a nine
to three season after schedule, but they still won with
inefficiencies at the quarterback position and wherever else.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Are you not an Underwood fan, then I take that year.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
No, I'm saying there's room for growth.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
He's gone anyway, so they're gonna have to get the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
You're right, he's not officially gone.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I thought when he first had edited the portal that
he was gonna go to LSU. Was that a bad
rumor out there or one of my bogus web bets.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Might have been one of your bad Twitter.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Right, It could have been over the place that's.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Tacking genius one.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
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College football.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Playoffs, a little NBA.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
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Now Man, the legend, the myth joins us each and
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Speaker 5 (18:56):
It is Pete Few Tech.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
There's his entrance music, Merry Christmas, See you buddy, how
are you?
Speaker 8 (19:02):
What's going on? So you've got an Arnie Spaniard in
the building, isn't it the James Jason Smith Show?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
At this point?
Speaker 8 (19:08):
You know, wow, you got the big man there.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Hey, Fete, how you doing? My friend? It's good to
see to speak to you again. And hey, you know
I want to rask you right off the bat.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
This has got to be a great hire for you
must love this thing because it started to look like
it was going to be a tough hire.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
And now you kind of get your guy, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
I know I settled buying to this post narrative that
no one wanted this got this gig, it's it's a
it's Michigan, it's no name was off the charts here,
and it would have been tough to get some of
these guys. And you know, some of them just didn't
want to talk, mainly because they didn't want to interview.
And then have it looked like, oh, well, you know this,
(19:49):
I'm rejecting you before you reject me kind of thing. Uh.
But yeah, Kyle winning him all along. I mean he
retired from you know, Utah coaching. He didn't retired, He
just you know, decided I'm stepping away from the job.
And he still wanted to coach. He wanted to, you know,
is he putty, I want to be in the transfer portal.
I want to you know, I want a bigger gigs
than this, And he got one. And you know, look
(20:09):
for a program like Michigan that just needs a little
tweaking for the next three to five years. Yeah, let's
see what he could do in this whole l idea
also that oh well he's not your young guy to
build it on for the future. Well who is I mean,
most of these coaches only last three to five years anyway,
So let's see what he can do with just a
little tweak in here, Pete.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
That was one of the things we're talking about a
little bit before.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
When you're talking about age, who cares everybody job hops.
Very few guys are like winning him where you're at
a place for twenty years. But the other part is
that he's not a Michigan guy. So it's a fresh
set of eyes and nobody that can be touched tangentially
or substantively by what's going on these last few years.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Absolutely, So, I mean, look, first of all, being a
Michigan guy, I means do you have a whole lot
losing in there? Before? You know, he actually started winning,
so uh yeah, you know who cares all the sausages?
Maybe guy national title under Harbaugh and all that. So yeah,
you got you want to fresh start and you know,
outside of you know the basic you know, normal you know,
big college little stuff here and there, there hasn't been
(21:09):
a whiff of scandal at Utah. There's no issues there.
And I go on a bunch of radio stations in
Utah just over the years, and I've always confided what
he's been doing to being like a big, big ten
program like he made Utah essentially the new Wisconsin back
when Wisconsin was Wisconsin, where big guys on the line,
you don't screw up on penalties or turnovers, you win
(21:31):
the time possession battle, You run, run, run. You have
guys up front who are more powerful than everyone else,
play tough defense, and that's possible to do if you
have an ulti culture discipline team. And the side that
they were able to get worked great. They made a
tweak to more of a pro style offense. Unfortunately they
had a hard time finding the right quarterback with Cam
Rising always hurt. So now let's see what they do.
(21:53):
I can't imagine if Brice Underwood takes off, and if
he does find just go get another quarterback, because again
you're Michigan pretty much get whatever you want there.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Yeah, Kim Rising does have another year left.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
I saw that. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Is that that's but let me ask you about Underwood.
I thought he was going to leave. What did you
think about him when when he signed a year ago?
And what do you think about him right now? It
doesn't sound like you're really would be broken up if
he ended up leaving.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I'm not broke. I mean really, it's about just the
position and the program, and you can get quarterbacks that
there's so many quarterbacks out there in the system, right,
It's so crazy all these guys who are jumping into
the portal, Like where do they think they're going to go?
Like there are only so many jobs that are open,
and okay, so maybe they're looking for extra money. Maybe
(22:42):
they're looking for the deal like Darius meant to got
last year jumping from Tulane to Duke and you know,
got paid a big ton of money and hey, won
an ACC championship. He was really good for the Blue Devils.
Maybe that's what some of these guys are looking for.
But all these guys are in the portal. Okay, well,
let's see if they can fit certain places. And then
all of a sudden, what happens. Do you have a
(23:02):
Trinidad Chambliss or someone like that who comes from out
of nowhere and is one of the Heisman favorites, or
even Trenando Mendozo was a hot prospect but definitely not
quite this so you never quite know. And so all
these big time guys who you have all the talent
in the world. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You know,
sometimes you have a guy like Dante Moore who wasn't
(23:24):
really that great at UCLA, came back set for a year,
and all of a sudden, boom it works. So but
I don't fail that to say that I don't think
Underwood would leave.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Now, Jason Smith show with me, Mike Harman, the venerable
Arnie Span you're in for Jason Smith. Pete deferred to
him like you know, all non Western cultures to their elders.
The way this thing started at College Football News is
where you find him at Pete futec Pete. Let's go
to the world of litigation, where you've got Pavia looking
(23:55):
to get himself extra year. Going off to James Nausey
move drafted in twenty twenty three to the NBA Draft, traded,
his rights are part were conferred to the Knicks, and
now he's gonna go become a Baylor Bear. Why do
you think this plays out? And did his heisman Shenanigans costume?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
I don't have the problem with that. The heisman thing is,
you know, just immature. Okay, fine, but I kind of
you know, he basically did what every Heisman loser really thinks.
They just don't say it out loud. But that's of
course you see to look at like Peyton Manning's face
or you know, some of these other guys who thought
they were gonna win and didn't even though he wasn't
(24:37):
gonna win the heids of this year Pavio. So yeah,
there's a little delusion there, but yeah, I'm gonna they're
still you know, relatively young kids, you know, to the
most parts of probably who's like what forty two at
this point, I mean, it's uh, good, go get a
job already, I guess, or just stay or just stay
in college as long as you can. But I get it,
(24:58):
you know, I would be not looking back. I'd love
to be back in college and live the life. You
know again, who.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Did John Jugar Mellencamp hold on to sixteen as long
as you can.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Especially getting paid for it now, I mean, like it's
a great deal. I mean, you get paid more than
you get paid as an NFL rookie. So I get it.
So give it a shot, see what you can do.
But at some point this is getting kind of ridiculous.
Like I still think the most. The craziest part through
all this is during this bowl season, a lot of
(25:31):
teams had to opt out. Why because they couldn't find
their players? Yeah, because they scattered. And like when this happened,
every other college kid on the planet was studying for finals.
Like you're so these guys aren't like studying for finals.
You can't grab enough students. Who are you know, college
students to play college football. I mean, so it's just like,
(25:53):
come on, It's just it's just getting kind of ridiculous
at this point when you get guys who just won't leave.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Yeah, you know, Pete.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Of course, before I say, oh, let's break down the
playoffs in the Miami Ohio State and Oregon Texas Tech
and stuff like that, if I told you we're gonna
spend the next twenty minutes breaking down f IU in
Texas San Antonio and then switch over to the Central
Michigan Northwestern game and then Minnesota New Mexico, you're gonna
hang up the phone on me.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Enough is enough, Pete? Enough enough?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I don't care if thanky Pete, Yeah, perfect, but.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
You over Repete.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
No, enough is enough. Nobody cares about the game. I
really don't believe that it has television numbers.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Nobody's going to the game.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
They tried to tell me that twenty three thousand or
at the Northwestern game.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
I'm not buying it.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I just don't think we need it anymore, especially when
we started expanding the playoffs. I mean, seriously, Pete, anybody
asking you to break down any of these or any
of these other Bowl games.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
I mean, tomorrow, we got a whole slew of them.
Not what makes a different? Does not one care you
care about? Bete?
Speaker 8 (27:02):
Well, but there's here's the thing. Yet, we kind of
maybe care about Clemson ten State if you're you know,
a national, but there's so many of them. And look,
what else are you gonna do? Talk to your family?
I mean, what else you got going on? I mean,
especially if you live in a place that's cold. I mean,
you know, there's nothing to do. You're you're gonna watch
(27:23):
you know another you know, the born identity marathon that
keeps happening on start. I mean, like, look, here's the thing.
First of all, the problem is these bowl games, unlike
that other than the Hawaii Bowl and this uh uh
uh the Rake Ball between New Mexico and Minnesota, these
Bowl games have been awful. So the big the bigger
(27:43):
problem is that just you know, who's watching these things?
Who's staying watching these things because they're just so bad
and there's no real reason for it, because last year
they were really good, Like every game was competitive, every game.
I mean, it's not like they're not trying or anything,
but you just have so many disjointed teams with so
many coaches who are gone, so many players who are
(28:04):
you know, missmatch of players who are going. So it's
just fun. It's like, you know, trying to handicap preseason games.
But like I said, who's watching these things? I can
tell you a very large stegment of the public to
try to pay off their holiday gift giving. What's going
on as we speak.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Exactly, And Pete does spots all over the country, so
he's got to know everything about Central Michigan and teams
of that. Ill all right, Pete, So really quickly as
we get to the playoffs, you still got some days
to chop this up. What stands out amongst the four games,
you know, in terms of where you're looking for an
upset and maybe a little bit of chaos.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
I'm look, I'm Texas Tech I'm really curious about it.
It's gonna be about the pass rushing all these games.
I don't think, oh, this is going to have what
it takes to hang with Georgia. It's just they got
their fun out of the way. They got their exorcism
of Layne Kiffin against Kalaane. Uh so now they got
the win. It's a it's been a good, good run.
(29:01):
I think they have a problem with Georgia. I mean,
the problem with Indiana Alabama is it's still Alabama. It's
just hard. I don't care if you can analyze it
to death or yeah, of course Indiana should beat this
Alabama team, and isn't that great. It's still Indiana versus Alabama.
It's just hard. But I do think Indiana pulls that off.
So the real key is here the pass rush. For
(29:23):
we all the NFL talent on the Miami defensive front
and all the talent on the Texas Tech defensive front,
can those can that be the neutralizing factor against these
Big ten teams? And I honestly don't think anybody watched
one Texas Tech game this year. I sure know if
the College Football Playoff Committee didn't until the Big Twelve
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championships is like, oh wow, that's that seems like a yeah,
this team is really good. You know, it's almost it's
it's got the talent. I don't know if it has
the quarterback situation. Barry Morton's a nice veteran. I don't
think he's quite there. And now it's about the big ten.
I mean, look, Ohio State, Indiana, and in Oregon. They
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could pretty much set the tone for the rest of
college football by being like, all right, we only got
a few teams in, but all of them are pretty
good and let's see what they do going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, for Texas Tech, it just means they need a
better lobbyist in that room for next year.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Pete.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
You know what the funniest the highest part about that
is also is that everyone's act be all, well, this
is the best team money can buy, like compared to Alabama,
like compared to like Oregon, who is like the forefront
of you know, sports marketing, and they look, it's all legal,
it's all above board now. But oh well, they bought
themselves a team so everyone could do that. Everyone could
(30:38):
have had David Bailey, Romelo Heighten, great players of Texas
Tech got They just did it really well this year,
or you go.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Back in time and start comparing them to teams from Alabama,
Georgia and others of the past. At Pete few Tech,
where you find him on Twitter, Pete, enjoy the holiday
run blessed times with you and your family, and we appreciate.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
You being part of the show.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
I'm going guy.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Thanks, He's the best. Joints is each and every week
on the hotline. College footballnews dot com is the website.
He's a steaking genius. At Arnie Spanners, you see how
excited he was to talk to you, Well, she went
straight to me. I felt offended. Let's go over to
the news desk to a man who is above reproach,
(31:22):
a man that we all tower in his presence because
he's so mighty.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I gave you.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Gave him yesterday off I did, and yet I still worked.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
By the way, as you brought up that I'm sitting
at a newsdesk, I'm glad you brought that up. The
reaction to Arnie appearing on the show tonight by the
guest was Pete, which just went.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Nuts at the beginning. The greatest thing, ever.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
How about that I'm a pretty big deal. Just ask me.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
That is the definition of news. Nobody has reacted to
Argy like that way. In the Lay Bowl game tonight
in Dallas, ut San Antonio is still up thirty one
fourteen over Florida International, which about fifty yards passing fifty
yards rushing. UTSA was actually down fourteen to nothing early
in this one, including giving up a punt return TD
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in Phoenix, Minnesota in overtime beat New Mexico twenty to seventeen.
Northwestern beat Central Michigan thirty four to seven. In Detroit.
The Wildcats led seven nothing late first tap. They have
won six straight bowl games. There are eight bowl games
on Saturday, including Penn State at Yankee Stadium against Clemson
and at Fenway Pack It's Yukon against Army.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
It is official.
Speaker 10 (32:31):
Michigan's new head football coach is Kyle Whittingham from Utah,
where he spent the last twenty one years. There are
two NFL games on Saturday, Texans at Chargers and then
Ravens at Packers. Green Bay quarterback Jordan Love will not
play Saturday night due to his concussion, so Malik Willis
will start, but he's been limited at practice this week
(32:51):
with the shore shoulder and quarterback for the ravens. Lamar
Jackson doubtful for the game with the bruise back, so
Tyler Huntley could start the big game Sunday on five,
Philadelphia at Buffalo. For the Eagles, linebacker Nikobe Dean out
with a hamstring injury. Tackle Lane Johnson still out with
a foot injury. Bill's quarterback Josh Allen is due to
play despite a foot injury. He practiced fully today. Buffalo
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kicker Matt Crater is still out with a quad injury.
The Patriots say there's still a chance running back Traveon
Henderson plays Sunday after a concussion last week, but they'll
be missing two injured wide receivers. The Raiders will not
play defensive end Max Crosby on Sunday against the Giants
due to a knee injury, and tight end Brock Bowers
is on ir Steelers pass rusher TJ. Watt will miss
(33:36):
another game this weekend after the lung injury. Butt linebacker
Nick Herbig does return. In the NBA, Boston won at
Indiana won forty to one twenty two. Jalen Brown thirty points,
his eight straight thirty point game Chicago over Philadelphia thanks
to a ten oh run at the end one O nine,
one two, despite thirty one points from Joel Embiid at Memphis,
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tennisist for John Morant in a win against Milwaukee, victories
from Miami, Charlotte and Washington, which was five and twenty
three geez but shot fifty nine percent from the floor,
and rep Toronto one thirty eight to one seventeen. Wow,
they've just gone. Final Phoenix wins at New Orleans one
fifteen to one oh eight, thirty points for Devin Booker
(34:18):
halftime Detroit with a record of twenty four and six
lead sixty eight sixty seven at Utah and the late
game through one quarter at Portland as the Blazers head
of the Clippers thirty five to twenty five. College basketball,
still on Christmas, break back to.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You, appreciate you. That's Steve di Seger at the news desk.
We got Ian, we got Alex, We've got Shay in
the back, and of course that's the stinking genius over
there already. Span you'ro ount Mike Carment, thanks for being
with us here tonight as you celebrate the holidays. If
you're on the roads, be smart, be safe, weather all
across this great land. Just let it take a little
bit longer. You'll get there. It'll be okay. I had
(34:54):
to basically do a you know, the old traffic cone
test when you're you're doing your driving test. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, to do that today because some idiot must
have been flying down the highway and plastic and glass
was all over the roadway. So let's be smart out
there people as we go, hey, and as you're doing that,
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should be. As we continue, we'll take a stay in
the NBA for a minute. Steve gave you some updates
from the games. I want to talk about what happened
(35:36):
last night. As we were getting off the air, clips
started circulating of a certain coach who has an issue
with my usual co host. They got beef. Maybe we
can revisit that coming up next here on Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I celebrate Dua Lipa's entire catalog. Welcome back in Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon. Of course,
that's out in John and that's Arnie Spanner over there.
He's hanging out with us tonight at Stinking Genius one
where you find him find me over at Swollen Dome. Now,
as we got off the air yesterday, we'd had the
(36:19):
chaos that was the latest Laker debacle.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yeah, oh that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
As they got drummed by the Houston Rockets. Rockets now
eighteen and ten, second in the Southwest Division, but resplendent,
resounding victory over the Lakers, an absolute beat down. One
nineteen ninety six was your final. So you're just seeing
as it's starting to unravel a little bit, play some
(36:45):
cupcakes early, put up some big points and well it's
been some tough sledding these last couple of weeks. Austin
Reeves is hurt, might miss a month, maybe more as
he reinjured. Once you start getting into calf injuries, everybody
gets a little bit nervous and you gotta give it,
you know, if you say I didn't know it was.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Gonna be a month, geez, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Well, but you're also going to air on the side
of caution because we've seen how quickly that leads to
other more disastrous and harmful long standing issues. And Reeves
was a guy that was becoming a star, a lot
of folks really getting excited about what he and Luca
can be. We should be noted during this current slide.
Luca his shooting percentage is down six percent, defensive ratings whatever.
(37:28):
I kind of chuckle whenever we talk about the Lakers
because I said the word defense, so we kind of
you know, Lebron is basically a one end of the
court player at this point. He's ola defense would not
even begin to describe it oftentimes, and then he stays
behind crying for a fall to where it becomes a
(37:49):
five on four break the other way. Plenty of incidences
of those in this three and six range that they've
been going to this during this recent slide where they're
getting blown out a bunch arny and well, yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
I just wanted to say this.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Out of the sixteen teams that are in the playoffs
right now, the Lakers are the only team that are
in the in the red in the negative scoring differential.
Everybody else is in the green. It's in the plus.
You know, take that for what it's worth. But you
could tell they're starting to go backwards. They've lost three
in a row, as you mentioned, the Reeves injury, and
it's certainly not going to get better with Lebron's defense.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
He's just a bad defender right now. That's just the
way it is, Mike. There's no way to sugar coated.
The guy just can't play defense.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, let's hear from JJ Raddick, who once took on
Jason Smith as he referenced just some random account you
know at Jason Smith blank blank blank, and we were
on air Ian Roddy are executive producers producer tonight. He
was in the back and he heard it live and went,
wait did he just say it like? And it became
obviously a fixture of the show. Hi, JJ, because we're
(38:53):
gonna do it again with what he had to say yesterday.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
The two words of the day we're effort in execution,
and you know, I feel like when we've done both
of those things at a high level, we've been a
good basketball team and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team.
And tonight we were a terrible basketball team. And that
started legitimately right away because we don't care enough right now.
And that's that's the part that bothers you a lot.
We don't care enough to like do the things that
are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You know, we had it, We had it.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
This is this is I always say this about you know, culture,
I always say this about a team being a you know,
a good team, being a functioning organism, organism. Can it
can change like that? We don't have it right now. Again,
it goes back to what I said the other night.
It's it's a matter of making the choice. And too
often we have guys that don't want to make that choice.
And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so
(39:40):
Saturday practice I told the guys it's going to be uncomfortable,
the meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing
another fifty three games like this.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
So another beat down, and this one has become like
one of those the old Spider Man meme, because now
it's old.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
It's actually right.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
They want to get each other because, you know, you've
got Reddick saying that stuff, and what swirled up on
the interwebs was when he was back as an ESPN analyst,
where it was a lot of excuse making, and there's
a fine line sometimes between reasons and excuses. You could
say the rosters hampered by the fact that Lebron opted in.
(40:17):
I think that was the Lakers' worst case scenario to everything,
when he opted in to get his fifty three million
dollars for the year, because look, if you really wanted
to go win, go somewhere else, go be their guy. Instead,
he comes back and it bogs things down. We talk
about defensive effort, but it's now swirling and because he's
not calling out any of the role players in terms
(40:38):
of effort and execution.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I had no problem with what JJ said. I know
we're short on time, so maybe we could pick it
up next hour, but I have no problem what he said,
how he said it, And if people want him to
point fingers, that's behind the closed doors.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
We'll do some more of that as we continue, as
well as a little bit of Pete Carroll and they
sent their star player home, he was not happy.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
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