December 30, 2025 • 41 mins
Chris Plank and Arnie Spanier, in for Jason and Mike, look at some wild eligibility manipulations in college football and one wacky rule for a historic NFL franchise. Is Marcus Freeman making a mistake in not looking to leave Notre Dame for the NFL? Plus, Nikola Jokic faced a scare on Monday night.
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Power hour of the show. Next hour is the bonus hour?
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
No, No, I don't think they do out there, by
the way, Big New Year plans for you or no.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, I'm covering Bowl games. It's exciting, isn't it. I'm
getting to cover bowl games that my team's not playing.
And I've got responsibilities for the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl,
the Cotton Bowl, and what we play the Sugar Bowl
as well. So yeah, i got postgame responsibilities after every
single bowl game. So I'm gonna be wow, why are
(01:26):
you partying? You're hitting the town?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, I gotta work that night. But if I wasn't working,
I'd be probably going to like Times Square or something like,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Do something like that. Don't tell people that why do
you want to leave your house at all?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, you know that is a little too crowded for me.
Maybe you're right about that. I mean, I don't have
to wear a diaper because I can't go to the
bathroom or something.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, is there no bathrooms that you can use?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, you can't leave what you're behind, like the barrier.
You can't just leave and come back. It doesn't work really, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, didn't we learn or a lesson? And the
wha for we thing?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, what are we even doing trying to put
people in positions where they couldn't be able to use
the restroom before they leave something. I I'm I'm split
On New Year's Eve, Yeah, I love it because it's
a fresh start for a lot of people, right, you
can in some ways, I don't. I'm not necessarily someone
that's like, gosh, got to get away from twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, I am a Raiders fan, so I guess maybe there.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, you should want to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But everything else, you know, I'm a little healthier now,
I'm working out now, got some priorities more in order,
Like I don't feel like I need these New Year's resolutions.
And a date on the calendar is not going to
change your life. You know, suddenly you're not going to
wake up on January one. You're like, New Year knew me.
You know you're still going to be that same lazy
person if you commit to change.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
There's no good years left too. We hit the year
two thousand.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What we hit the year? There's no good years left?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Remember, Well, first of all, it was nineteen ninety nine,
was going to be a big year party against stuff
like that, and then historic was the year two thousand,
and then when you got the twenty twenty five was
very historic, and now we won't be historic until we
get to like twenty fifty or something like.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I think twenty twenty six is rather historic.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Not really Okay, well, I mean with the number wise,
just numerical wise, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Why why are you so weird about numbers on years though?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Because I'm a math guy. Really, that's what.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I'm You're really not.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, but so you're saying, where do you put
the because New Year's Eve is very low I'm not
someone that calls it amateur to night, right, I'm not that.
I'm not that pompous about It's like I'm a bigger
drunk than you are. I don't need a night to
show you how hammered I can get. Come join me
on a Tuesday, right, And it's not like my mindset,
but it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't know. I think it was a.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Bigger deal for me when I was younger, and I'm
sure it'll be a big deal for my kids as
they're getting older, right, But it's just it's never really,
it's never really been real high on my depth chart
as far as holiday celebrations.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I think over the years it's kind of taken a
not a back seat, but it's been, like you said,
a lot more low key than it was back in
the day. Maybe because we were excited about like nineteen
ninety nine and the year two thousand and the Y
two K and all that blode.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
If you're just getting older and more boring.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Maybe that could that could be it. That could be
it also maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean you're about working on New Year's Eve. I
mean you're literally going to ring in the new year
on the.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Air, right, that's true. Yeah, that's that's good. Well, we're
coming on. We'll be on while the Miami Ohio State
game's going on. Right, that's seven thirty Eastern and they'll
probably be done about ten thirty to eleven. Yeah, we'll
be on the air as that game is finishing up.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
What is this for five straight nights for you now
on the air?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I didn't work Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh okay, so you'll do tonight. Are you doing Tomorrow
night too?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I would do. I don't work back to back nights.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, Monday Thursday Friday.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, sometimes I'll give them, you know, a break and
do something.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But then you're doing Thursday Friday too?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah? No, Monday, Wednesday Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was gonna say, you're like going against your own
quote unquote demands. I would love it one time if
our boss man, the Great Scot Shapiro, would actually call
you on this BS that you talk on.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
What are you're talking about? I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I would love it if he's like, yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm not going to offer you back to back shifts
because you don't want back to back.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, Jesus, that's what he says. I know you won't
work back to back. So here's Monday went.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And why did you work Thursday and Friday?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well there was nobody else, Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah there was. There were people. I was begging for shifts.
So shut it all right, off the Twitter machine. Let
get a couple of these in here before we play
the game show. That's sweeping the plane standard pretty much. Yeah, Brendan.
After Week seventeen, guys, I know this. This year's Raiders
are the worst team since the nineteen seventy six Buccaneers.
(05:47):
Maybe if the two teams played each other, the final
score would be three zip. But then again, the seventy
six Bucks did have more disciplined leadership but lacked on
the field talent.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I think you're the second word team. I think the
Jets right you the worst team in the NFL. This year,
it was a good race between you and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think the Jets are absolutely terrible, absolutely terrible, and
I don't know how they've backed into the wins that
they have this year. Did you say this was another
stat that blew my mind la last night? The worst
point differential in December in NFL history?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, well the Jets amazing? Is that crazy or what?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Unreal?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But how about you that stat on Sauce Gardner the
only the first person in what NFL history to play
for two teams to go what one and seven and
one in seven? Yeah it was two and fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I mean, I'm thinking about the biggest disappointments this year.
What's that Roman numeral number like five or something four maybe,
but the biggest disappointments this year. Yeah, and the Colts
have an excuse because Daniel Jones went down and it's
hard to replace your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yes, but they were still they people are saying, well
not people are saying, it's a fact, it's the biggest
collapse in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
But it's also a team that did go all in
right on the trade deadline, and they swung for the
fences and they went and they got sauce and you thought,
oh my gosh, they're gonna do this, and then Jones
gets Andre. Don't get me wrong, they were starting to
sputter a little bit before you got hurt.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
But they still would have made the playoffs. I think
if he would have been healthy for all the games,
But I'm not sure exactly Colin is Matt Lefleur's seat warm.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Consider the Packers had the number seven seed for the
last five playoffs, which didn't exist until twenty twenty December January.
Record with Jordan Love is seven and eight. They're three
and three at home. Twenty twenty six is a contract
season for him. New CEO ed policy has lots to
(07:58):
consider this offseason.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I don't think it is. I think he's somewhat safe,
at least till the end of his contract. You know,
I was thinking about this, could dude, Yeah, could you
imagine if they would have a rule that says, if
you're a coach, you got to retire by the age
of seventy Because the Packers what their CEO had to
leave it was it seventy or how old was it
that he had to leave away because he timed out
(08:23):
of his job right, so he had to walk away
from it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't think it was an age thing. I don't
think I do.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
No, No, I thought it was an age thing. You'll
have to what I'm telling you. I thought it was
an age thing, like you had tell me.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't doubt it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But I think if you said, and it's just me, yeah,
that if you reach a certain age, you can't coach
or be a GM or something of that nature, CEO,
I'm pretty sure that you could fight that in court
if you really wanted to be just wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I thought that was the rule.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'd be right if it. Just seems like that'd be
something that you wouldn't want to risk putting on a gipe.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I thought the only reason they were allowed to get
away with it is they didn't have an owner and
it was owned by the you know, shareholders or something.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, they're still a publicly traded company, right, I mean
I have shareholders, So I mean you got people in.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I love to look to look at this.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I appreciate you just throwing it out there without having
any knowledge.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Sounds good?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Though it sounds good? Does my gosh? Every so often,
just like one Google search can help you out a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
In this stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I Colin, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's a fascinating question because I sit here and this
is I come from a place of a team that
stinks they're terrible, And when I hear about a guy
like Matt Lafour and I think he's on the hot seat,
it blows my mind. But I understand it. It blows
(09:53):
my mind from this perspective. He has been so good
and consistently winning. Would it shock you if I told
you this is his seventh season as the head coach?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Just well, that would shock be But it's no more
crazy than people saying Sirianni should be fired.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Right, and he just won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yes, the floor has been in the playoffs in six
of his seven years. Right now, we got one more
game remaining on Sunday for the Packers, so this number
could grow. He's won ten or more games in four
and could be five of his seven seasons. Wow, they
(10:33):
haven't necessarily been great in the playoffs, but he has
gone to the NFC Championship Game twice.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now that was in his first two seasons.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Like to me, it's one of those situations where, like
my my fan brain can't compute anyone saying we might
have to move on from a coach that in his
last two years has been eleven and six and then
maybe ten six and one. You know, it's just I
understand the front stration with losing it home to the
Ravens on Saturday, but I don't know, It's just it's
(11:05):
kind of like the Tomlin heat. I get it where
I think, who is a mister nobody that was all
over us last night calling him mediocre Mike? And you're
the Steelers and you're used to winning a Super Bowl
like every other year in the seventies. But it's just
kind of not reality in the NFL right now. And
I don't know, it just it kind of blows my
mind to think that that would even be a conversation.
But then I pull back and I'm like, it makes sense, dude.
(11:28):
It makes sense because they're the Packers. They expect to
beware right now, who's battling for the one in the NFC?
You expect me over the Seattle Seahawks and the Niners.
Are you know you expect to be battling for that
one seat every year.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
By the way, I just want to read you this.
The Green Bay Packers CEO Mark Murphy. He was the
last one step down July at twenty twenty five because
he reached the team's mandatory retire age of seventy.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wow, it's the Packers age rule, the mandatory. I'm surprised
someone hasn't tried to fight that if they want him
to stay around. I would like to normalize retirement being
at like sixty five again, can we.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Do you do that with coaches? Do seventy years old,
you're out of here?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Team by again, You're gonna have team bylaws.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm surprised no one says they're making me leave because
of age. Maybe everyone's just smart enough to realize, hey,
once the time you reach seventy, kind of time to
move on, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I also, we were talking about this last night.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'd like to see I would like to see us
normalizing quarterbacks like not playing into their forties. You know,
it's few and far between when it's happened. But I mean, Arnie,
you talk about Lamar Jackson like he's forty years old.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Do you know how old he is?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Twenty eight?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He's twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
He's two years older than Tyler Shuck whose Saints fans
are absolutely losing their minds about right now. Meanwhile, people
like yourself are like, oh, it's just you're like too
old to keep things going. Like he's twenty eight, but
he plays a different style, and because you hate mobile quarterbacks,
then it's a situation where he might be gone. I
I would like to see I would like to see
(13:10):
us normalize quarterbacks, maybe having a thirty six year age limbit.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Thirty six, thirty seven years old and then you're done.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Are we gonna have an age limit in college coming
up soon? I mean, look what's going on? And I
saw the two basketball players that are going back or
talking about going back to college. I saw in hockey,
and I know it doesn't make a big thing about it.
There was a guy that played in like two minor
league teams, was drafted in the first round, might even
gotten called up in the NHL. He's going back to college.
(13:39):
It's getting out of hand with guys that are getting
drafted playing in the summer league. One of those basketball
players played in the summer league and he's gonna be
able to go back to college.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What did you, Hardwright turn into this story? What let
you down this road?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
All of a sudden, we're talking about the NFL and
the playoffs and the age rull.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I've guess you're the age roll.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The age That's what it was. It was the age
rule that got me on it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was like, holy smokes, where did we go off road?
And on this one? I we have blame shifting on that.
Have you seen that with the older players getting an
opportunity here we have complete and total blame shift on that.
It's aren't you Plank sitting in for Jason and Mike
here on Fox Sports Radio tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Perhaps you've seen the.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Story you had the NBA D League player that on
three had the report yesterday that they had to kind
of apologize for.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But then they didn't like take the report down.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
The NBA D League player that was getting offered all
these opportunities by other colleges. And you've seen guys that
have played in the NBA now that are going back
to college field of sixty eight. I don't know you
follow them college basketball? Jeff Goodman and his crew.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I think so, I think I do.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
They're really good.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
If you you, being the college football expert that you are,
I'm kind of surprised that you're not on there right now.
But they reached out to the NCAA and everyone tonight.
Try to get a little bit of clarification on it. Buddy.
I think I'm even more confused about how these guys
are getting an opportunity to play in the in the
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college ranks despite having played in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Here was the NCAA.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Statement, all right, yeah, ready, yeah, okay. Schools are recruiting
and seeking eligibility for more individuals with more international, semi
pro and professional experience than ever before. And while the
NCAA members have updated many rules following the House injunction,
(15:37):
more rules must likely be updated to reflect the choices
member schools are making. At the same time, NCAA eligibility
rules have been invalidated by judges across the country, wreaking
havoc on the system and leading to fewer opportunities for
high school students, which is why the association is asking
(15:59):
for con Grits to intervene in these challenges.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It does. It destroys the high school athlete, the ones
that want to go ahead and play as freshmen or
they're probably gonna have the red shirt nowadays. That's you know,
that's gonna be the commonplace right now. A lot of
these kids that were thinking if they were borderline D one,
they're gonna have to start thinking to D three or
some stuff. Not nothing wrong with that because you get
a great education, but it does trickle down.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, I did you see what do you hear? What
the NCAA did.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
They put the blame back on the schools. So you
have Tom Izzo grand standing and everyone's saying.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Izzo was really upset about it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
He was, really your conversation needs to be with your
fellow coaches right there, who there, who's.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Doing this right now? And I don't blame him.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I mean, and I didn't even know the rule beforehand.
I always thought that if you First of all, I thought,
if you played in the NBA Summer League, that's it too.
You couldn't even go to a college. Gave the watch.
I don't play next to you. I know there's you know,
people going after these guys. And this is just the
start too. What do you think is gonna happen next year?
The year after? Now there's two there was when Treadon
(17:10):
Flowers and the kid that's going the Baylor right right
next year will be what ten, and then the year
after they'll be like fifty of them are or something.
It's gonna get out of hand.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oklahoma just added a seven foot or out of Russia
that is immediate, and he played tonight for them after
not playing in the entire first semester. Who just magically
became He only has one semester of eligibility left, so hey,
let's use this here somehow, some way. It's the player,
it's the coaches, it's not everyone's like the NCAA has
to do something about it. Okay, well, every listen, I
(17:43):
don't want to I'm not trying to be that guy.
But every single time that you get mad about an
eligibility decision, what happens they take him to court. And
what happens when you take him to court they do
is junction.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So it's like, what good are we doing here and
trying to be all Barnie badass his own like, ah,
this is unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Talk to your fellow coaches. That's where the conversation needs
to start.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And we used to complain that we the NCAA never
extended an athlete's career. No, no, I'm sorry, can't do it.
You know you sorry, you got your car accident and
you missed the whole year, but we can't give you
another year. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We're watching right now, you know, Diego Pavia is having
that fight for another year of eligibility.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
He won six years.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right at the core of.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
This, it's it's not even really a matter of how
many years they want. It's a matter of not having
your JUCO years count against your overall D one eligibility.
And I'm watching one of my guys, Owen Heineke, that's
fighting for another year of eligibility army because he was
a lacrosse player and he played in like three lacrosse
matches whenever he was at Ohio State, and now they're like,
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I'm sorry, you can't play another year.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Of college football.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So geez.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, it's just wild.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And if you and I don't think he's fighting it
in court right now, he's just kind of monitoring it
because if one of these guys wins their court case,
then what does that do?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
It opens it up for everyone else.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Well, because they want and they want the nil money.
So that's why they're going back to college knowing that
they really don't have much of a career in professional
those days. For another year or two in colleges to
take that money.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You can make more money right now in college football
and in college basketball. Then you can as a G
League player or an overseas player in basketball. And you're
looking at about what a fourth to seventh round pick like,
if you're in the first three rounds, might want to.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Go ahead and turn pro.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Right, fourth to seventh round, you still make more money
in college as a football player.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So fascinating times. Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't know if we accomplish a lot in that segment,
but I learned a lot. I learned about the Green
Bay seventy year old.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Rule, which how about that that existed?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
No I to pull that out of your backside.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And then we kind of got in depth on the
college eligibility rules which are kind of dominating the sport
right now outside of the college football playoffs. All right,
let's give us plenty of time for the hit game
show that's sweeping the planes, Staying or gone?
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Speaker 4 (21:15):
I used to get on the dance floor with that
song all the time. Oh yeah, I remember that. That
was when I was in college. I think.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
We let's get on the dance let's go.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
In Western girls. Is that the line ty shirt? I
think it's right.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Something like that. Ah, that's Ail eighty mustache too.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That was eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Uh, you had a mustache, But you stop with that.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What that's just a little that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's just a little bit of It's the only place
I can grow, actually grow facial hair right now. I
couldn't grow a mustache or a fu manchuw or a goatee,
but I could have a little a little bit underneath
my uh bottom list.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I had a little mustache fortytail. But all the girls
were like, you're so good looking, you don't need facial hair.
Facial hairs for ugly people. So so I kind of shaved.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I think my new favorite. I feel so bad for
this guy. I don't, Arnie. I'm sure you haven't seen it,
ty should? I bet you have, bursh I know you have.
It's the picture of the guy that has the beard
and then they shave the beard and he just looks
like it's almost a put the beard back on. They
got the side view of him like this big burly viking,
like badass with the beard, and then they shave the beard.
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It's like, oh, oh no, that's what I envision now, Arnie.
Whenever you need to get the facial hair back, you
got to hide the double chin. You'll be good to
go on that.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I have no double gin hare well, a little bit
of a double chin one and a half to one,
how about that?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Listen as a proud owner of a double chin, Arnie,
you can't lie those ones away.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'm still in shocked about the Puka naku at near catch.
I'm still in shock about the non call on the PI.
But Arnie, before we get to saga in here for
an update, should we be even more shocked by how
dominated the Rams war in the first half? Are more
reassured by the fact that they came back and made
it a game in the second half.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
No, it'd be more reassured. First of all, when you
throw up, you know, pick six, and you go down
twenty one to nothing and you're on the road, even
if it's to a team that's not going to the playoffs,
but they're feeling good about themselves. It is tough to
come back from something like that. And they did. I mean, yeah,
they lost the game, they didn't pull it out, and
then you have nobody to playing with themselves. They really
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didn't play a very good game, but they they tried
to put it all together in the second half, still
made mistakes, couldn't get the break on that last drive.
I think you look at the good stuff, you come
away with the positive than the negative in that first half.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Okay, that make me feel a little bit better about
things because to me, as a team that I really
think could make a run, really think they can make
a run, I was a little concerned by that first half,
but they found a way to come back and make
a game of it.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So maybe it's a little bit real sharing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like I like how you're selling me positivity sold rams tonight.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I'm mister positivity. You know that, don't you? So? Like,
like I told you, it's really wide open. You're not
going to get the usual odds. And we've talked to
Todd Ferman about this where you'll have the favorite of
two to one and then the next like four to one,
and you'll get some six to one. You'll have everybody
in the like four to one, six to one, ten
to one range. You're not gonna get like that one
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hundred to one or five hundred to one long shot
for the most part.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
All right, Steve de Sager comes rolling in with an
update because we got a lot to get caught up on,
including an injury that we're keeping an eye on what's
going on, Steve that.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
In the NBA.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
By the way, the song you played is not Western Girls,
west End Girls.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, well girls, Oh's.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Therefore like west End of London, Typer.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You've neither hit the dance forward to that to Sega.
You remember that I'm learning everything tonight. I didn't know
about the seventy year rule. A nice big night for me.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'm teaching you, you know.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
With the Rams lost tonight at Atlanta it was twenty
seven to twenty four Falcons, and after the heartbreak loss
at Seattle their previous game, can I just go back
a couple of short weeks when the Rams beat Detroit.
The comment from the Lions coach Dan Campbell is that's
what a number one seed looks like. Yeah, and more quote,
the Rams look more than any other team in the NFL,
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like the team you could pick to go to the
Super Bowl this year, in this crazy no dominant team year.
And now the Rams are not only not NFC West champs,
as we mentioned even last night because of Sunday results,
they had no mathematical chance of winning the division even
before tonight started. And now they've fallen to eleven and five.
Can they even get the five seed in the NFC?
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At this point, the Rams were down twenty one nothing
at the half. They did tie it with under three
minutes to go, but the Falcons won twenty seven to
twenty four on a fifty one yard field goal with
under thirty seconds left. You're correct about the late pass
interference call that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Was not called.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
That seemed obvious and it certainly did the guys in
the booth at the time. It was not second guessing.
There are also a couple of injuries to note that
might have made a difference, and maybe if these guys
are back to the play back in the playoffs, the
Rams will look better. The tackle Alaric Jackson was sorely
missed out with a knee injury. Wide receiver DeVante Adams
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hopping down the field with the bad hamstring a couple
games ago, was out tonight. It reminds me a little
bit of I think it was last year early the
Rams had a horrible start to the season. Someone said,
are the Rams not good this year? My response was,
I don't know. The real Rams haven't been on the
field yet. Tonight there were just and They mentioned this
in postgame of the Monday Night football telecast. They weren't
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all down on the Rams postseason chances because we think
that some of the regulars that contribute to victories for
this team might actually return.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But man, this was a bad one.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I know the Falcons are on a little winning streak
here end of season, but down twenty one to nothing
at Atlanta at the half, and that included the Matthew
Stafford pick six, which has turned out to be a
close game, that was really a killer. Stafford finished with
two touchdown passes three interceptions. Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman
is staying with an enhanced contract.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Reportedly.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
In the NBA Miami over Denver one forty seven to
one twenty three, Nikola Jokic of the Nuggets left with
a knee injury and it did not look good. A
teammate of his backed into him on defense in the
lane and he went hopping to the locker room. The
late games go into the fourth quarter, Portland holding on
ninety seven to ninety three against Dallas for the MAVs,
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Anthony Davis out again with adductor sorenis New York is
twenty three to nine after winning at New Orleans one
thirty to one twenty five. Zion Williamson thirty two points
in defeat. Minnesota won at Chicago one thirty six to
one poh one, and the Timberwolf starters combined for zero
turnovers in this game. Kobe White of the Bulls left
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with a calf injury. Josh Giddy left with a back hamstring.
Houston got thirty points from Kevin Durant and beat Indiana
one twenty six to one to nineteen. Rocket center Alpriam
Schengoon was still out with a calf injury the Indiana Pacers. Boy,
things have changed six and twenty seven this year, Cleveland
won at San Antonio one thirteen, one oh one despite
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twenty six points from Victor Wembin. Yama Spurs twenty three
and nine. How about Oklahoma City record of twenty eight
and five After beating Atlanta one forty to one twenty
nine Shay Gilgis Alexander thirty nine points.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Is this the All Star Game?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Geez Hawks guard Trey Young out with a Bruce quad
which brings me to the note about the All Star Game.
It's gonna be at the La Clippers Arena in mid February.
It's a new format this year for the NBA All
Star Game. Two teams of American players, one team of
international players in a round robin tournament. They'll use the
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four quarters as four twelve minute games in this tournament.
On one Sunday afternoon, the voting was out the first
results of the fan vote, and by the end the
fan vote will count for fifty percent of things, a
quarter from the NBA players, a quarter of the vote
of a media panel. But the top two vote getters
in the West so far Luka Doncic and Nikola Jokic.
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Top two vote getters in the East Giannis Antanacumpo and
Tyrese Maxi of Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Back to you, all right, thanks a lot, Steve.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's Arnie in Plank Comedy live from the Fox Sports
Radio Studios. I've got to get to Roman numeral twelve
here in just a bit, but I did since we're
short on time, we got the segment coming up here
in just a bit. I did want to ask you
about the Marcus Freeman news today. I think I think
he's out of a coach. I think he's outstanding. I
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think he would make a great NFL coach. I think
he's going to continue to make a great college coach.
Surprised to see that he wasn't at least tempted to
think about the Giants or the Titans.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
A little bit further, I heard Dan Byer talking about this.
He said, there were four teams were portally interested, but
we only knew those two teams. I don't know the
other two teams.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I can't remember who I was arguing with this about.
It might have been VJ, but I'm not one hundred
percent sure. I think the Notre Dame job is a
better job than the Titans, or a better job than
the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I get on board with that.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah, it's an historic job. Money aside, how much does
he get at Notre Dame and how much would he
have gotten with the Titans. I got to assume much
pretty close, right, Chris or No, the money may be
a little bit more in.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
The well, he'd make more in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
NFL, but he's not necessarily he's not lining up in
the breadline right.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
No, we're not gonna start a collection for him. But
I do think status wise, you're getting a better status
at Notre Dame. No, I'm not surprised he's stayed. We
always say the grass isn't always greener. I do hate
that saying, though, but in this case, I think he
was right to stay. He's comfortable there, and what was
the what's the thing for next year? If they're in
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the top twelve, they're going to get a bid.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Well, that's allegedly the rule.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
We'll see, and he couldn't get that in the NFL, right,
they turned them down on that.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
That's right? He asked, if he's a joke.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I saw that joke out there, remember of.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Those and his dad had got that joke in first
for tonight on X twelve.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Done. But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
All of the knocks on nil and it's it's ruining
the game. Might might be right, but coaches don't have
to deal with it anymore. I mean you really don't.
You got a front office now in most college football programs,
and you have a guy who that is his job. Now,
I say, a guy, a guy gal. You got a
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staff where it's costing more money, but you got to
do it. So for college football coaches, whenever you hear
I wouldn't want to deal with nil or I want
to deal with Well, you really don't.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, but they got to give him the names. I mean,
they got to decide which players are getting what. Right,
that's up to the coaches, though.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
No, you've got a general manager that does that, gotcha.
It works like an NFL team. Now, coaches can be
as coaches depending on where you are. Like Ryan Day
at Ohio State won a national championship. He can be
his hands on or his hands off as he wants, right,
Jim Naggy came to Oklahoma, I'm pretty sure he's running it.
Andrew Luck had a general manager at Stanford. His name
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is Andrew Luck. He's pretty much running it right now
as far as things are concerned. So you still have
to recruit. I'm not saying it's easy. You still have
to recruit. You still got to sell your culture. And
culture I think matters a lot more in the college
ranks than it does in NFL. So this whole idea
that oh, I wouldn't want to be a college coach,
I honestly think that mess that we went through from
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about twenty twenty to twenty twenty four is it necessarily
cleaned up. But I think with the implementation of these
front offices. I think it's made it a little bit
more bearable for coaches and their staffs.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You know, one thing I did do a complete one
eighty on I used to be behind the kids. I've
let the kids transfer and let them transfer immediately, and
I hate that they had to sit out a year
and all this and coaches never had to sit out.
Now when they transfer kind of bothers me. One because
they're transferring so much, tou because they're transferring because of money.
It used to be you were transferring because of playing time,
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and I can get behind that. Nobody wants to sit
on the bench if you can go someplace else where
you can play not you know, everybody wants that. You
know that, Chris, We all want we don't want to
be on the bench. But now kids are transferring for
the money and other reasons like that, and it kind
of bothers me. The you know, they could transfer two, three,
four times.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Where are you most valuable as a college football player
right now?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Is the question?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Are you more valuable staying where you are and you know,
being retained a sure maybe you can make some money,
or are you more valuable on the open market? And
most people have found that they're more valuable on the
open market.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Oh, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And man, so it's not.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Just about Hey, I like it here, but I can
make like two hundred and fifty two hundred fifty to
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars more going to another school.
You kind of have to look at that. And tampering
is exist so much. These guys have agents, and some
of the agents are verified, some aren't, and they're just
out constantly trying to find a couple extra bucks here
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and there, and it's it's it's working. But hey, I'll
tell you what, I'm fascinated by it. Man, I'm sitting here.
It's added a whole new season of the world of
college football?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Has it not? Got a free Agenciason coming up? Starting
January second.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
There was a couple of people tweeting today matter of fact,
that this is the death of college football. The way
it's going right now actually had me scared. I was
reading some of the points. I'm like, hey, he's got
a good point here, he's got a good point there.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Sure, but what's the return? OK.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know, we started with Marcus Freeman and we've ended
up in the nile world because it's crushed so much.
But you reach a point where it's what's the retur
on investment? Like you're giving these money, these moneies to
nil and it's not necessarily for a company anymore. It's just, hey,
I want to pay them the most money. What's your gain?
What's your goal? What do you get out of it?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I mean anything? Your team might win a game or two.
What if that guy sucks, you don't put your money back,
you know, but.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You only keep them for a year. Then it goes on.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
They yeah, but it's still out the window.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I mean, oh, you allegedly gave Jay not like you know,
mid six figures to come play running back for OU
and he had about as many yards as you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Did this year. So I mean there's swings a miss
as it happens.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
All right, listen, Steve is Sager, it's gonna slide in
with it a segment next, and then we've got to
get to our Staying or Gone game show. It's taken
over the country. It's coming up here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It's that time when Arnie and I get to hang
out with Steve de Seger, that we welcome in our anchor,
America's anchor for the segment.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
And happy holidays formally to the both of you. As
we look toward wild Card weekend, which is not that
far away, the NFL regular season ends this coming weekend,
it's possible that the NFC's three playoff games that weekend
are at Chicago, at Philadelphia at Carolina. How's the weather
in those three cities. The answer is not bad, especially
for January, because the forecast for Chicago is about thirty
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five degrees, not that windy, and no forecast of rain
or snow yet for their nice Also wild card weekend
in Philadelphia about thirty eight degrees, a chance of some
Sunday morning snow, but keep in mind there's no guarantee
it will even be a Sunday game for Philly, and
also in Charlotte, assuming that it's the Panthers that win
that division and host a playoff game. About fifty degrees
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showers possible on the Saturday, but not the Sunday is
how things look right now now. The Rams lost the
upset at Atlanta to is very good news for the Seahawks,
and that'll be great news for the Seahawks this weekend
if they can actually win at San Francisco and get
the one seed in the NFC. But this result the
Rams losing somehow tonight means the lowest the Seahawks can
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go is the five seed.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Let's go, Jim Zorn, let's go, and.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Steve Largin once again, the top four seeds are reserved
for division champions, So if the Seahawks have a great
year but they're not division champion, the lowess they can
go is the five seed. The most intriguing, of course,
is what we've referenced earlier. The Panthers keep their hopes
alive of winning the NFC South.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
In a myriad of ways.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
They have three different ways they can clinch their division
title this weekend and therefore a four seed, a home
playoff game, a Carolina win at Tampa Bay on Saturday,
they win the division. A Carolina tie on Saturday, and
they win the division. Even if Carolina loses on Saturday
and then Atlanta wins its finale over the Saints would
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still win its division.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Blowing that these Saints Atlanta game is going to decide
a division.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Time thanks to this little Falcons winning streak at the end.
So if they win next week as well, they'd finish
eight and nine. A Carolina loss means they'd finish eight
and nine, they would be losing at Tampa Bay. Tampa
would finish at eight and nine. Well, guess what, Carolina
would win a three way division tiebreaker. As for the
Seattle Seahawks, keep in mind going into the weekend, they
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have a one game lead on the Niners. So yeah,
they're on the road Saturday night, but it's a win
or a tie, we'll clinch the NFC West title for
Seattle and therefore the one seed. The Rams can only
be a five or six seed in the NFC, and
as for Chicago and Philadelphia, they can only be either
two or three, and Chicago has the advantage they already
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won at Philadelphia in November, so even though they have
the same record, if they both win this weekend, or yeah,
both lose this weekend, Chicago stays as the two seed
in the NFC. Got to mention how Atlanta one and
that is not just on the late field goal, but
on the greatness of Beshon Robinson. This guy has had
at least one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage in
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seven different games this year. Now, that is the most
in the NFL. He had exactly two hundred and twenty
nine yards from scrimmage in this one. One hundred and
ninety of that were after first contact, the most yards
a guys had after contact since they started tracking such
a thing about fifteen years ago. So the Falcons, although
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they blew a twenty one nothing lead, did not blow
the game. They won it twenty seven to twenty four
over the Rams, which mean we can update the stat
the Falcons in the last thirty five years. What's their
record when they're up twenty one in the second half.
It's sixty nine and two, with the two blown losses
being the famous Super Bowl against the Patriots and the
other was against Matthew Stafford and the Lions about a
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decade ago.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
In college basketball, yes, number one Arizona wound up a
winner at home. They were there's a real wildcat. Arizona
beat South Dakota State ninety nine to seventy one. A
lot of blowouts and mismatches. In college hoops, Number eight
Houston State undefeated at home. They barely beat Middle Tennessee
sixty nine to sixty. In the NBA, we've got a
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late game going, and for those who care, the late
game has Dallas now in the lead with four minutes
to go, one thirteen to one ten at Portland. But
the big NBA news the Jokic injury earlier as Denver
lost at Miami knee injury. I'm sure we'll find out
more tomorrow, but.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Nothing new since the show started, right, no updates. Okay,
we'll keep an eye on that major story potentially developing
for the latter half.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
And it was a road game, so it's not like
they can have their own hospitals and their own medical staff.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Ropeman numeral number twelve. He is going to kick off
the bonus. That's Arnie Spanier. I'm Chris Plank. We are
heading down the home stretch with Arnie and Plank right
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I s let's go
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's rip Milank.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Still the power Hour? I mean, I get confused with
these four is the.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Power hour of the show. Next hour is the bonus hour?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We got the Sager's to segment coming up a little
bit later on Arnie's Picks and uh, you see, you
guys are finding us at Stinking Genius one. I'm at
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I don't know if Jason and Mike live, eat, sleep,
and breathe on X like we do during our program,
but that's how we roll.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
No, No, I don't think they do out there, by
the way, Big New Year plans for you or no.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, I'm covering Bowl games. It's exciting, isn't it. I'm
getting to cover bowl games that my team's not playing.
And I've got responsibilities for the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl,
the Cotton Bowl, and what we play the Sugar Bowl
as well. So yeah, i got postgame responsibilities after every
single bowl game. So I'm gonna be wow, why are
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you partying? You're hitting the town?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, I gotta work that night. But if I wasn't working,
I'd be probably going to like Times Square or something like,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Do something like that. Don't tell people that why do
you want to leave your house at all?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, you know that is a little too crowded for me.
Maybe you're right about that. I mean, I don't have
to wear a diaper because I can't go to the
bathroom or something.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, is there no bathrooms that you can use?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, you can't leave what you're behind, like the barrier.
You can't just leave and come back. It doesn't work really, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, didn't we learn or a lesson? And the
wha for we thing?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, what are we even doing trying to put
people in positions where they couldn't be able to use
the restroom before they leave something. I I'm I'm split
On New Year's Eve, Yeah, I love it because it's
a fresh start for a lot of people, right, you
can in some ways, I don't. I'm not necessarily someone
that's like, gosh, got to get away from twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, I am a Raiders fan, so I guess maybe there.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, you should want to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But everything else, you know, I'm a little healthier now,
I'm working out now, got some priorities more in order,
Like I don't feel like I need these New Year's resolutions.
And a date on the calendar is not going to
change your life. You know, suddenly you're not going to
wake up on January one. You're like, New Year knew me.
You know you're still going to be that same lazy
person if you commit to change.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
There's no good years left too. We hit the year
two thousand.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What we hit the year? There's no good years left?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Remember, Well, first of all, it was nineteen ninety nine,
was going to be a big year party against stuff
like that, and then historic was the year two thousand,
and then when you got the twenty twenty five was
very historic, and now we won't be historic until we
get to like twenty fifty or something like.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I think twenty twenty six is rather historic.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Not really Okay, well, I mean with the number wise,
just numerical wise, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Why why are you so weird about numbers on years though?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Because I'm a math guy. Really, that's what.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I'm You're really not.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, but so you're saying, where do you put
the because New Year's Eve is very low I'm not
someone that calls it amateur to night, right, I'm not that.
I'm not that pompous about It's like I'm a bigger
drunk than you are. I don't need a night to
show you how hammered I can get. Come join me
on a Tuesday, right, And it's not like my mindset,
but it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't know. I think it was a.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Bigger deal for me when I was younger, and I'm
sure it'll be a big deal for my kids as
they're getting older, right, But it's just it's never really,
it's never really been real high on my depth chart
as far as holiday celebrations.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I think over the years it's kind of taken a
not a back seat, but it's been, like you said,
a lot more low key than it was back in
the day. Maybe because we were excited about like nineteen
ninety nine and the year two thousand and the Y
two K and all that blode.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
If you're just getting older and more boring.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Maybe that could that could be it. That could be
it also maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean you're about working on New Year's Eve. I
mean you're literally going to ring in the new year
on the.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Air, right, that's true. Yeah, that's that's good. Well, we're
coming on. We'll be on while the Miami Ohio State
game's going on. Right, that's seven thirty Eastern and they'll
probably be done about ten thirty to eleven. Yeah, we'll
be on the air as that game is finishing up.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
What is this for five straight nights for you now
on the air?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I didn't work Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh okay, so you'll do tonight. Are you doing Tomorrow
night too?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I would do. I don't work back to back nights.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, Monday Thursday Friday.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, sometimes I'll give them, you know, a break and
do something.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But then you're doing Thursday Friday too?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah? No, Monday, Wednesday Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was gonna say, you're like going against your own
quote unquote demands. I would love it one time if
our boss man, the Great Scot Shapiro, would actually call
you on this BS that you talk on.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
What are you're talking about? I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I would love it if he's like, yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm not going to offer you back to back shifts
because you don't want back to back.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, Jesus, that's what he says. I know you won't
work back to back. So here's Monday went.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And why did you work Thursday and Friday?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well there was nobody else, Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah there was. There were people. I was begging for shifts.
So shut it all right, off the Twitter machine. Let
get a couple of these in here before we play
the game show. That's sweeping the plane standard pretty much. Yeah, Brendan.
After Week seventeen, guys, I know this. This year's Raiders
are the worst team since the nineteen seventy six Buccaneers.
(05:47):
Maybe if the two teams played each other, the final
score would be three zip. But then again, the seventy
six Bucks did have more disciplined leadership but lacked on
the field talent.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I think you're the second word team. I think the
Jets right you the worst team in the NFL. This year,
it was a good race between you and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think the Jets are absolutely terrible, absolutely terrible, and
I don't know how they've backed into the wins that
they have this year. Did you say this was another
stat that blew my mind la last night? The worst
point differential in December in NFL history?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, well the Jets amazing? Is that crazy or what?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Unreal?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But how about you that stat on Sauce Gardner the
only the first person in what NFL history to play
for two teams to go what one and seven and
one in seven? Yeah it was two and fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I mean, I'm thinking about the biggest disappointments this year.
What's that Roman numeral number like five or something four maybe,
but the biggest disappointments this year. Yeah, and the Colts
have an excuse because Daniel Jones went down and it's
hard to replace your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yes, but they were still they people are saying, well
not people are saying, it's a fact, it's the biggest
collapse in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
But it's also a team that did go all in
right on the trade deadline, and they swung for the
fences and they went and they got sauce and you thought,
oh my gosh, they're gonna do this, and then Jones
gets Andre. Don't get me wrong, they were starting to
sputter a little bit before you got hurt.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
But they still would have made the playoffs. I think
if he would have been healthy for all the games,
But I'm not sure exactly Colin is Matt Lefleur's seat warm.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Consider the Packers had the number seven seed for the
last five playoffs, which didn't exist until twenty twenty December January.
Record with Jordan Love is seven and eight. They're three
and three at home. Twenty twenty six is a contract
season for him. New CEO ed policy has lots to
(07:58):
consider this offseason.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I don't think it is. I think he's somewhat safe,
at least till the end of his contract. You know,
I was thinking about this, could dude, Yeah, could you
imagine if they would have a rule that says, if
you're a coach, you got to retire by the age
of seventy Because the Packers what their CEO had to
leave it was it seventy or how old was it
that he had to leave away because he timed out
(08:23):
of his job right, so he had to walk away
from it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't think it was an age thing. I don't
think I do.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
No, No, I thought it was an age thing. You'll
have to what I'm telling you. I thought it was
an age thing, like you had tell me.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't doubt it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But I think if you said, and it's just me, yeah,
that if you reach a certain age, you can't coach
or be a GM or something of that nature, CEO,
I'm pretty sure that you could fight that in court
if you really wanted to be just wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I thought that was the rule.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'd be right if it. Just seems like that'd be
something that you wouldn't want to risk putting on a gipe.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I thought the only reason they were allowed to get
away with it is they didn't have an owner and
it was owned by the you know, shareholders or something.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, they're still a publicly traded company, right, I mean
I have shareholders, So I mean you got people in.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I love to look to look at this.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I appreciate you just throwing it out there without having
any knowledge.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Sounds good?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Though it sounds good? Does my gosh? Every so often,
just like one Google search can help you out a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
In this stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I Colin, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's a fascinating question because I sit here and this
is I come from a place of a team that
stinks they're terrible, And when I hear about a guy
like Matt Lafour and I think he's on the hot seat,
it blows my mind. But I understand it. It blows
(09:53):
my mind from this perspective. He has been so good
and consistently winning. Would it shock you if I told
you this is his seventh season as the head coach?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Just well, that would shock be But it's no more
crazy than people saying Sirianni should be fired.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Right, and he just won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yes, the floor has been in the playoffs in six
of his seven years. Right now, we got one more
game remaining on Sunday for the Packers, so this number
could grow. He's won ten or more games in four
and could be five of his seven seasons. Wow, they
(10:33):
haven't necessarily been great in the playoffs, but he has
gone to the NFC Championship Game twice.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now that was in his first two seasons.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Like to me, it's one of those situations where, like
my my fan brain can't compute anyone saying we might
have to move on from a coach that in his
last two years has been eleven and six and then
maybe ten six and one. You know, it's just I
understand the front stration with losing it home to the
Ravens on Saturday, but I don't know, It's just it's
(11:05):
kind of like the Tomlin heat. I get it where
I think, who is a mister nobody that was all
over us last night calling him mediocre Mike? And you're
the Steelers and you're used to winning a Super Bowl
like every other year in the seventies. But it's just
kind of not reality in the NFL right now. And
I don't know, it just it kind of blows my
mind to think that that would even be a conversation.
But then I pull back and I'm like, it makes sense, dude.
(11:28):
It makes sense because they're the Packers. They expect to
beware right now, who's battling for the one in the NFC?
You expect me over the Seattle Seahawks and the Niners.
Are you know you expect to be battling for that
one seat every year.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
By the way, I just want to read you this.
The Green Bay Packers CEO Mark Murphy. He was the
last one step down July at twenty twenty five because
he reached the team's mandatory retire age of seventy.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wow, it's the Packers age rule, the mandatory. I'm surprised
someone hasn't tried to fight that if they want him
to stay around. I would like to normalize retirement being
at like sixty five again, can we.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Do you do that with coaches? Do seventy years old,
you're out of here?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Team by again, You're gonna have team bylaws.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm surprised no one says they're making me leave because
of age. Maybe everyone's just smart enough to realize, hey,
once the time you reach seventy, kind of time to
move on, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I also, we were talking about this last night.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'd like to see I would like to see us
normalizing quarterbacks like not playing into their forties. You know,
it's few and far between when it's happened. But I mean, Arnie,
you talk about Lamar Jackson like he's forty years old.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Do you know how old he is?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Twenty eight?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He's twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
He's two years older than Tyler Shuck whose Saints fans
are absolutely losing their minds about right now. Meanwhile, people
like yourself are like, oh, it's just you're like too
old to keep things going. Like he's twenty eight, but
he plays a different style, and because you hate mobile quarterbacks,
then it's a situation where he might be gone. I
I would like to see I would like to see
(13:10):
us normalize quarterbacks, maybe having a thirty six year age limbit.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Thirty six, thirty seven years old and then you're done.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Are we gonna have an age limit in college coming
up soon? I mean, look what's going on? And I
saw the two basketball players that are going back or
talking about going back to college. I saw in hockey,
and I know it doesn't make a big thing about it.
There was a guy that played in like two minor
league teams, was drafted in the first round, might even
gotten called up in the NHL. He's going back to college.
(13:39):
It's getting out of hand with guys that are getting
drafted playing in the summer league. One of those basketball
players played in the summer league and he's gonna be
able to go back to college.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What did you, Hardwright turn into this story? What let
you down this road?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
All of a sudden, we're talking about the NFL and
the playoffs and the age rull.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I've guess you're the age roll.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The age That's what it was. It was the age
rule that got me on it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was like, holy smokes, where did we go off road?
And on this one? I we have blame shifting on that.
Have you seen that with the older players getting an
opportunity here we have complete and total blame shift on that.
It's aren't you Plank sitting in for Jason and Mike
here on Fox Sports Radio tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Perhaps you've seen the.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Story you had the NBA D League player that on
three had the report yesterday that they had to kind
of apologize for.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But then they didn't like take the report down.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
The NBA D League player that was getting offered all
these opportunities by other colleges. And you've seen guys that
have played in the NBA now that are going back
to college field of sixty eight. I don't know you
follow them college basketball? Jeff Goodman and his crew.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I think so, I think I do.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
They're really good.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
If you you, being the college football expert that you are,
I'm kind of surprised that you're not on there right now.
But they reached out to the NCAA and everyone tonight.
Try to get a little bit of clarification on it. Buddy.
I think I'm even more confused about how these guys
are getting an opportunity to play in the in the
(15:11):
college ranks despite having played in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Here was the NCAA.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Statement, all right, yeah, ready, yeah, okay. Schools are recruiting
and seeking eligibility for more individuals with more international, semi
pro and professional experience than ever before. And while the
NCAA members have updated many rules following the House injunction,
(15:37):
more rules must likely be updated to reflect the choices
member schools are making. At the same time, NCAA eligibility
rules have been invalidated by judges across the country, wreaking
havoc on the system and leading to fewer opportunities for
high school students, which is why the association is asking
(15:59):
for con Grits to intervene in these challenges.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It does. It destroys the high school athlete, the ones
that want to go ahead and play as freshmen or
they're probably gonna have the red shirt nowadays. That's you know,
that's gonna be the commonplace right now. A lot of
these kids that were thinking if they were borderline D one,
they're gonna have to start thinking to D three or
some stuff. Not nothing wrong with that because you get
a great education, but it does trickle down.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, I did you see what do you hear? What
the NCAA did.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
They put the blame back on the schools. So you
have Tom Izzo grand standing and everyone's saying.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Izzo was really upset about it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
He was, really your conversation needs to be with your
fellow coaches right there, who there, who's.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Doing this right now? And I don't blame him.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I mean, and I didn't even know the rule beforehand.
I always thought that if you First of all, I thought,
if you played in the NBA Summer League, that's it too.
You couldn't even go to a college. Gave the watch.
I don't play next to you. I know there's you know,
people going after these guys. And this is just the
start too. What do you think is gonna happen next year?
The year after? Now there's two there was when Treadon
(17:10):
Flowers and the kid that's going the Baylor right right
next year will be what ten, and then the year
after they'll be like fifty of them are or something.
It's gonna get out of hand.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oklahoma just added a seven foot or out of Russia
that is immediate, and he played tonight for them after
not playing in the entire first semester. Who just magically
became He only has one semester of eligibility left, so hey,
let's use this here somehow, some way. It's the player,
it's the coaches, it's not everyone's like the NCAA has
to do something about it. Okay, well, every listen, I
(17:43):
don't want to I'm not trying to be that guy.
But every single time that you get mad about an
eligibility decision, what happens they take him to court. And
what happens when you take him to court they do
is junction.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So it's like, what good are we doing here and
trying to be all Barnie badass his own like, ah,
this is unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Talk to your fellow coaches. That's where the conversation needs
to start.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And we used to complain that we the NCAA never
extended an athlete's career. No, no, I'm sorry, can't do it.
You know you sorry, you got your car accident and
you missed the whole year, but we can't give you
another year. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We're watching right now, you know, Diego Pavia is having
that fight for another year of eligibility.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
He won six years.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right at the core of.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
This, it's it's not even really a matter of how
many years they want. It's a matter of not having
your JUCO years count against your overall D one eligibility.
And I'm watching one of my guys, Owen Heineke, that's
fighting for another year of eligibility army because he was
a lacrosse player and he played in like three lacrosse
matches whenever he was at Ohio State, and now they're like,
(18:50):
I'm sorry, you can't play another year.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Of college football.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So geez.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, it's just wild.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And if you and I don't think he's fighting it
in court right now, he's just kind of monitoring it
because if one of these guys wins their court case,
then what does that do?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
It opens it up for everyone else.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Well, because they want and they want the nil money.
So that's why they're going back to college knowing that
they really don't have much of a career in professional
those days. For another year or two in colleges to
take that money.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You can make more money right now in college football
and in college basketball. Then you can as a G
League player or an overseas player in basketball. And you're
looking at about what a fourth to seventh round pick like,
if you're in the first three rounds, might want to.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Go ahead and turn pro.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Right, fourth to seventh round, you still make more money
in college as a football player.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So fascinating times. Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't know if we accomplish a lot in that segment,
but I learned a lot. I learned about the Green
Bay seventy year old.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Rule, which how about that that existed?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
No I to pull that out of your backside.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And then we kind of got in depth on the
college eligibility rules which are kind of dominating the sport
right now outside of the college football playoffs. All right,
let's give us plenty of time for the hit game
show that's sweeping the planes, Staying or gone?
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Speaker 4 (21:15):
I used to get on the dance floor with that
song all the time. Oh yeah, I remember that. That
was when I was in college. I think.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
We let's get on the dance let's go.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
In Western girls. Is that the line ty shirt? I
think it's right.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Something like that. Ah, that's Ail eighty mustache too.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That was eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Uh, you had a mustache, But you stop with that.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What that's just a little that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's just a little bit of It's the only place
I can grow, actually grow facial hair right now. I
couldn't grow a mustache or a fu manchuw or a goatee,
but I could have a little a little bit underneath
my uh bottom list.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I had a little mustache fortytail. But all the girls
were like, you're so good looking, you don't need facial hair.
Facial hairs for ugly people. So so I kind of shaved.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I think my new favorite. I feel so bad for
this guy. I don't, Arnie. I'm sure you haven't seen it,
ty should? I bet you have, bursh I know you have.
It's the picture of the guy that has the beard
and then they shave the beard and he just looks
like it's almost a put the beard back on. They
got the side view of him like this big burly viking,
like badass with the beard, and then they shave the beard.
(22:28):
It's like, oh, oh no, that's what I envision now, Arnie.
Whenever you need to get the facial hair back, you
got to hide the double chin. You'll be good to
go on that.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I have no double gin hare well, a little bit
of a double chin one and a half to one,
how about that?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Listen as a proud owner of a double chin, Arnie,
you can't lie those ones away.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'm still in shocked about the Puka naku at near catch.
I'm still in shock about the non call on the PI.
But Arnie, before we get to saga in here for
an update, should we be even more shocked by how
dominated the Rams war in the first half? Are more
reassured by the fact that they came back and made
it a game in the second half.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
No, it'd be more reassured. First of all, when you
throw up, you know, pick six, and you go down
twenty one to nothing and you're on the road, even
if it's to a team that's not going to the playoffs,
but they're feeling good about themselves. It is tough to
come back from something like that. And they did. I mean, yeah,
they lost the game, they didn't pull it out, and
then you have nobody to playing with themselves. They really
(23:29):
didn't play a very good game, but they they tried
to put it all together in the second half, still
made mistakes, couldn't get the break on that last drive.
I think you look at the good stuff, you come
away with the positive than the negative in that first half.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Okay, that make me feel a little bit better about
things because to me, as a team that I really
think could make a run, really think they can make
a run, I was a little concerned by that first half,
but they found a way to come back and make
a game of it.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So maybe it's a little bit real sharing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like I like how you're selling me positivity sold rams tonight.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I'm mister positivity. You know that, don't you? So? Like,
like I told you, it's really wide open. You're not
going to get the usual odds. And we've talked to
Todd Ferman about this where you'll have the favorite of
two to one and then the next like four to one,
and you'll get some six to one. You'll have everybody
in the like four to one, six to one, ten
to one range. You're not gonna get like that one
(24:25):
hundred to one or five hundred to one long shot
for the most part.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
All right, Steve de Sager comes rolling in with an
update because we got a lot to get caught up on,
including an injury that we're keeping an eye on what's
going on, Steve that.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
In the NBA.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
By the way, the song you played is not Western Girls,
west End Girls.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, well girls, Oh's.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Therefore like west End of London, Typer.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You've neither hit the dance forward to that to Sega.
You remember that I'm learning everything tonight. I didn't know
about the seventy year rule. A nice big night for me.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'm teaching you, you know.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
With the Rams lost tonight at Atlanta it was twenty
seven to twenty four Falcons, and after the heartbreak loss
at Seattle their previous game, can I just go back
a couple of short weeks when the Rams beat Detroit.
The comment from the Lions coach Dan Campbell is that's
what a number one seed looks like. Yeah, and more quote,
the Rams look more than any other team in the NFL,
(25:18):
like the team you could pick to go to the
Super Bowl this year, in this crazy no dominant team year.
And now the Rams are not only not NFC West champs,
as we mentioned even last night because of Sunday results,
they had no mathematical chance of winning the division even
before tonight started. And now they've fallen to eleven and five.
Can they even get the five seed in the NFC?
(25:41):
At this point, the Rams were down twenty one nothing
at the half. They did tie it with under three
minutes to go, but the Falcons won twenty seven to
twenty four on a fifty one yard field goal with
under thirty seconds left. You're correct about the late pass
interference call that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Was not called.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
That seemed obvious and it certainly did the guys in
the booth at the time. It was not second guessing.
There are also a couple of injuries to note that
might have made a difference, and maybe if these guys
are back to the play back in the playoffs, the
Rams will look better. The tackle Alaric Jackson was sorely
missed out with a knee injury. Wide receiver DeVante Adams
(26:19):
hopping down the field with the bad hamstring a couple
games ago, was out tonight. It reminds me a little
bit of I think it was last year early the
Rams had a horrible start to the season. Someone said,
are the Rams not good this year? My response was,
I don't know. The real Rams haven't been on the
field yet. Tonight there were just and They mentioned this
in postgame of the Monday Night football telecast. They weren't
(26:40):
all down on the Rams postseason chances because we think
that some of the regulars that contribute to victories for
this team might actually return.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But man, this was a bad one.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I know the Falcons are on a little winning streak
here end of season, but down twenty one to nothing
at Atlanta at the half, and that included the Matthew
Stafford pick six, which has turned out to be a
close game, that was really a killer. Stafford finished with
two touchdown passes three interceptions. Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman
is staying with an enhanced contract.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Reportedly.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
In the NBA Miami over Denver one forty seven to
one twenty three, Nikola Jokic of the Nuggets left with
a knee injury and it did not look good. A
teammate of his backed into him on defense in the
lane and he went hopping to the locker room. The
late games go into the fourth quarter, Portland holding on
ninety seven to ninety three against Dallas for the MAVs,
(27:36):
Anthony Davis out again with adductor sorenis New York is
twenty three to nine after winning at New Orleans one
thirty to one twenty five. Zion Williamson thirty two points
in defeat. Minnesota won at Chicago one thirty six to
one poh one, and the Timberwolf starters combined for zero
turnovers in this game. Kobe White of the Bulls left
(27:57):
with a calf injury. Josh Giddy left with a back hamstring.
Houston got thirty points from Kevin Durant and beat Indiana
one twenty six to one to nineteen. Rocket center Alpriam
Schengoon was still out with a calf injury the Indiana Pacers. Boy,
things have changed six and twenty seven this year, Cleveland
won at San Antonio one thirteen, one oh one despite
(28:17):
twenty six points from Victor Wembin. Yama Spurs twenty three
and nine. How about Oklahoma City record of twenty eight
and five After beating Atlanta one forty to one twenty
nine Shay Gilgis Alexander thirty nine points.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Is this the All Star Game?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Geez Hawks guard Trey Young out with a Bruce quad
which brings me to the note about the All Star Game.
It's gonna be at the La Clippers Arena in mid February.
It's a new format this year for the NBA All
Star Game. Two teams of American players, one team of
international players in a round robin tournament. They'll use the
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four quarters as four twelve minute games in this tournament.
On one Sunday afternoon, the voting was out the first
results of the fan vote, and by the end the
fan vote will count for fifty percent of things, a
quarter from the NBA players, a quarter of the vote
of a media panel. But the top two vote getters
in the West so far Luka Doncic and Nikola Jokic.
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Top two vote getters in the East Giannis Antanacumpo and
Tyrese Maxi of Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Back to you, all right, thanks a lot, Steve.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's Arnie in Plank Comedy live from the Fox Sports
Radio Studios. I've got to get to Roman numeral twelve
here in just a bit, but I did since we're
short on time, we got the segment coming up here
in just a bit. I did want to ask you
about the Marcus Freeman news today. I think I think
he's out of a coach. I think he's outstanding. I
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think he would make a great NFL coach. I think
he's going to continue to make a great college coach.
Surprised to see that he wasn't at least tempted to
think about the Giants or the Titans.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
A little bit further, I heard Dan Byer talking about this.
He said, there were four teams were portally interested, but
we only knew those two teams. I don't know the
other two teams.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I can't remember who I was arguing with this about.
It might have been VJ, but I'm not one hundred
percent sure. I think the Notre Dame job is a
better job than the Titans, or a better job than
the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I get on board with that.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah, it's an historic job. Money aside, how much does
he get at Notre Dame and how much would he
have gotten with the Titans. I got to assume much
pretty close, right, Chris or No, the money may be
a little bit more in.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
The well, he'd make more in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
NFL, but he's not necessarily he's not lining up in
the breadline right.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
No, we're not gonna start a collection for him. But
I do think status wise, you're getting a better status
at Notre Dame. No, I'm not surprised he's stayed. We
always say the grass isn't always greener. I do hate
that saying, though, but in this case, I think he
was right to stay. He's comfortable there, and what was
the what's the thing for next year? If they're in
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the top twelve, they're going to get a bid.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Well, that's allegedly the rule.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
We'll see, and he couldn't get that in the NFL, right,
they turned them down on that.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
That's right? He asked, if he's a joke.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I saw that joke out there, remember of.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Those and his dad had got that joke in first
for tonight on X twelve.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Done. But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
All of the knocks on nil and it's it's ruining
the game. Might might be right, but coaches don't have
to deal with it anymore. I mean you really don't.
You got a front office now in most college football programs,
and you have a guy who that is his job. Now,
I say, a guy, a guy gal. You got a
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staff where it's costing more money, but you got to
do it. So for college football coaches, whenever you hear
I wouldn't want to deal with nil or I want
to deal with Well, you really don't.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, but they got to give him the names. I mean,
they got to decide which players are getting what. Right,
that's up to the coaches, though.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
No, you've got a general manager that does that, gotcha.
It works like an NFL team. Now, coaches can be
as coaches depending on where you are. Like Ryan Day
at Ohio State won a national championship. He can be
his hands on or his hands off as he wants, right,
Jim Naggy came to Oklahoma, I'm pretty sure he's running it.
Andrew Luck had a general manager at Stanford. His name
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is Andrew Luck. He's pretty much running it right now
as far as things are concerned. So you still have
to recruit. I'm not saying it's easy. You still have
to recruit. You still got to sell your culture. And
culture I think matters a lot more in the college
ranks than it does in NFL. So this whole idea
that oh, I wouldn't want to be a college coach,
I honestly think that mess that we went through from
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about twenty twenty to twenty twenty four is it necessarily
cleaned up. But I think with the implementation of these
front offices. I think it's made it a little bit
more bearable for coaches and their staffs.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You know, one thing I did do a complete one
eighty on I used to be behind the kids. I've
let the kids transfer and let them transfer immediately, and
I hate that they had to sit out a year
and all this and coaches never had to sit out.
Now when they transfer kind of bothers me. One because
they're transferring so much, tou because they're transferring because of money.
It used to be you were transferring because of playing time,
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and I can get behind that. Nobody wants to sit
on the bench if you can go someplace else where
you can play not you know, everybody wants that. You
know that, Chris, We all want we don't want to
be on the bench. But now kids are transferring for
the money and other reasons like that, and it kind
of bothers me. The you know, they could transfer two, three,
four times.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Where are you most valuable as a college football player
right now?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Is the question?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Are you more valuable staying where you are and you know,
being retained a sure maybe you can make some money,
or are you more valuable on the open market? And
most people have found that they're more valuable on the
open market.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Oh, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
And man, so it's not.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Just about Hey, I like it here, but I can
make like two hundred and fifty two hundred fifty to
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars more going to another school.
You kind of have to look at that. And tampering
is exist so much. These guys have agents, and some
of the agents are verified, some aren't, and they're just
out constantly trying to find a couple extra bucks here
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and there, and it's it's it's working. But hey, I'll
tell you what, I'm fascinated by it. Man, I'm sitting here.
It's added a whole new season of the world of
college football?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Has it not? Got a free Agenciason coming up? Starting
January second.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
There was a couple of people tweeting today matter of fact,
that this is the death of college football. The way
it's going right now actually had me scared. I was
reading some of the points. I'm like, hey, he's got
a good point here, he's got a good point there.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Sure, but what's the return? OK.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know, we started with Marcus Freeman and we've ended
up in the nile world because it's crushed so much.
But you reach a point where it's what's the retur
on investment? Like you're giving these money, these moneies to
nil and it's not necessarily for a company anymore. It's just, hey,
I want to pay them the most money. What's your gain?
What's your goal? What do you get out of it?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I mean anything? Your team might win a game or two.
What if that guy sucks, you don't put your money back,
you know, but.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You only keep them for a year. Then it goes on.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
They yeah, but it's still out the window.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I mean, oh, you allegedly gave Jay not like you know,
mid six figures to come play running back for OU
and he had about as many yards as you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Did this year. So I mean there's swings a miss
as it happens.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
All right, listen, Steve is Sager, it's gonna slide in
with it a segment next, and then we've got to
get to our Staying or Gone game show. It's taken
over the country. It's coming up here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It's that time when Arnie and I get to hang
out with Steve de Seger, that we welcome in our anchor,
America's anchor for the segment.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
And happy holidays formally to the both of you. As
we look toward wild Card weekend, which is not that
far away, the NFL regular season ends this coming weekend,
it's possible that the NFC's three playoff games that weekend
are at Chicago, at Philadelphia at Carolina. How's the weather
in those three cities. The answer is not bad, especially
for January, because the forecast for Chicago is about thirty
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five degrees, not that windy, and no forecast of rain
or snow yet for their nice Also wild card weekend
in Philadelphia about thirty eight degrees, a chance of some
Sunday morning snow, but keep in mind there's no guarantee
it will even be a Sunday game for Philly, and
also in Charlotte, assuming that it's the Panthers that win
that division and host a playoff game. About fifty degrees
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showers possible on the Saturday, but not the Sunday is
how things look right now now. The Rams lost the
upset at Atlanta to is very good news for the Seahawks,
and that'll be great news for the Seahawks this weekend
if they can actually win at San Francisco and get
the one seed in the NFC. But this result the
Rams losing somehow tonight means the lowest the Seahawks can
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go is the five seed.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Let's go, Jim Zorn, let's go, and.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Steve Largin once again, the top four seeds are reserved
for division champions, So if the Seahawks have a great
year but they're not division champion, the lowess they can
go is the five seed. The most intriguing, of course,
is what we've referenced earlier. The Panthers keep their hopes
alive of winning the NFC South.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
In a myriad of ways.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
They have three different ways they can clinch their division
title this weekend and therefore a four seed, a home
playoff game, a Carolina win at Tampa Bay on Saturday,
they win the division. A Carolina tie on Saturday, and
they win the division. Even if Carolina loses on Saturday
and then Atlanta wins its finale over the Saints would
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still win its division.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Blowing that these Saints Atlanta game is going to decide
a division.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Time thanks to this little Falcons winning streak at the end.
So if they win next week as well, they'd finish
eight and nine. A Carolina loss means they'd finish eight
and nine, they would be losing at Tampa Bay. Tampa
would finish at eight and nine. Well, guess what, Carolina
would win a three way division tiebreaker. As for the
Seattle Seahawks, keep in mind going into the weekend, they
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have a one game lead on the Niners. So yeah,
they're on the road Saturday night, but it's a win
or a tie, we'll clinch the NFC West title for
Seattle and therefore the one seed. The Rams can only
be a five or six seed in the NFC, and
as for Chicago and Philadelphia, they can only be either
two or three, and Chicago has the advantage they already
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won at Philadelphia in November, so even though they have
the same record, if they both win this weekend, or yeah,
both lose this weekend, Chicago stays as the two seed
in the NFC. Got to mention how Atlanta one and
that is not just on the late field goal, but
on the greatness of Beshon Robinson. This guy has had
at least one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage in
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seven different games this year. Now, that is the most
in the NFL. He had exactly two hundred and twenty
nine yards from scrimmage in this one. One hundred and
ninety of that were after first contact, the most yards
a guys had after contact since they started tracking such
a thing about fifteen years ago. So the Falcons, although
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they blew a twenty one nothing lead, did not blow
the game. They won it twenty seven to twenty four
over the Rams, which mean we can update the stat
the Falcons in the last thirty five years. What's their
record when they're up twenty one in the second half.
It's sixty nine and two, with the two blown losses
being the famous Super Bowl against the Patriots and the
other was against Matthew Stafford and the Lions about a
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decade ago.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
In college basketball, yes, number one Arizona wound up a
winner at home. They were there's a real wildcat. Arizona
beat South Dakota State ninety nine to seventy one. A
lot of blowouts and mismatches. In college hoops, Number eight
Houston State undefeated at home. They barely beat Middle Tennessee
sixty nine to sixty. In the NBA, we've got a
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late game going, and for those who care, the late
game has Dallas now in the lead with four minutes
to go, one thirteen to one ten at Portland. But
the big NBA news the Jokic injury earlier as Denver
lost at Miami knee injury. I'm sure we'll find out
more tomorrow, but.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Nothing new since the show started, right, no updates. Okay,
we'll keep an eye on that major story potentially developing
for the latter half.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
And it was a road game, so it's not like
they can have their own hospitals and their own medical staff.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Ropeman numeral number twelve. He is going to kick off
the bonus. That's Arnie Spanier. I'm Chris Plank. We are
heading down the home stretch with Arnie and Plank right
here on Fox Sports Radio.
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