August 13, 2021 • 39 mins
In Today's Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason believes the Patriot's QB controversy is a sham. Jason and Mike recap and react to MLB's Field of Dreams Game between the Yankees and the White Sox. FOX NFL Insider Jay Glazer joins the show to discuss the upcoming NFL season. Finally, Jason believes it's time for the Steelers to move on from QB Ben Roethlisberger.
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It's not often in the preseason you get standing ovations
for players. Now, granted if it was someone like the Jets,
because there's not a lot of big moments during the season. Yes, yes, here,
but it was a big moment for a brand new
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quarterback who is in the middle of a sham quarterback
derby because tonight one of the two big NFL games
happening right now. The Patriots signal caller of the future
got that. As he got on the field for the
first time, there comes the rookie Matt Joe. Welcome the
Fox for Welcome to the NFL. Wants post tell me
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they're not ready for the next cat. They're all so excited,
they're so excited Mac Jones. Yeah, Cam Newton blah blah blah.
I don't like him anymore. He was last year's news.
Now it's about Mac Jones. Look, Mac Jones has come
in for the Patriots and he's done a nice job.
Started out a little slow. Okay, he started out a
little slow, but he did throw the ball pretty well.
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He didn't look like the moment was too big for him,
and in in grand fashion, you now have what you
see as a sham quarterback competition between Cam Newton and
Mac Jones. Alright, Cam Newton was four out of seven
for forty nine yards, Mac Jones thirteen out of nineteen
for eighties seven yards. Doesn't matter. This is one of
those like what we call it's a fixed outcome, Like
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even though it seems like, hey, anybody can win the job,
and Newton's the guy going in and Mac Jones, this
is a fixed competition. What they want to see happen
is this. I'm keeping all the pressure off of Mac
Jones by saying Cam Newton's the guy. Cam's a guy.
Cam's a guy. Cam's the guy. So Mac Jones can play.
And while they still wait from to play, we understand
Belichick's got his thing and Cam was was was you know,
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did okay enough for us last year to bring him back.
Clearly we know mac Jones the future and we'll see
him at some point when the whole plan is to
allow mac Jones to play in as many games as
possible outside of the spotlight and then become the starter
when they have to anoint one for the season. And
that's all. That's that. The only way that Mac Jones
isn't the quarterback to start is if he absolutely falls
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on his face and shows, hey, I'm really not ready
and I'm calling plays in the huddle like red seventy
four um high and that's not happening. This is a
fixed and a sham quarterback battle. They well they want
you to think it's a quarterback battle, but it's just
gonna be as soon as mac Jones is ready and
we get to the regular season, it's gonna be Mac
Jones is our guy. I mean, you have to have
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somebody else just in case, and I get that's why
they brought Cam Newton back, but he is completely on
borrow time and maybe after week three, but you're gonna
see Newton play just a little bit and mac Jones
get a lot of opportunity to play, to show that
he can be the guy and have a big body
of work where it seems like it's a it's a
no brainer. This is a fixed quarterback derby and mac
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Jones is going to win well. And if you watch this,
and I know you did because you were enamored with
seeing everything positive going for the Patriots in your division.
A couple of really pretty balls beat through man. One
that was a diving catch by Jacoby Myers, al right fingertips,
so they didn't review it. Move on, play continues. But
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then he did a lollipop you know as they called
it on the broadcast, you know, drop it in the bucket,
kind of like Aaron Rodgers been throwing the ball into
the bag or trash can or whatever, showing off his accuracy.
This spring summer, once again, mac Jones did one of
those wide receiver, made a terrible play on the ball,
surprised he wasn't given a pink slip and sent away
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right after that, But it was, uh, just I don't know,
you when we see the young guys come in and
throw the ball with that kind of confidence, crowd obviously
behind him and wanting him. I think I have to uh,
I have to agree with you. You're gonna be ruing
uh this day for the next decade or so as
he torments you up and down the field. Cam's there
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because he came back on a on a lower cost, right,
he was a backup, knowing that that was probably going
to be his role. If if Jones was everything as
advertised and at least from what we saw tonight. We've
read all the reports, but you finally get to see
it beyond more than one or two throws in a
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practice recap video. Uh, he looks like a guy ready
for the job and running with the ones, playing against
the ones. Acquitted himself really nicely here. So right now
you've got the you know, eyebrows, eyes wide open, and
everybody kind of perked up at all. Right, there's rookie
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number one. What about the rest of him? Yeah, look,
and this is this is just how it's done. And
we've seen it unfold this way so many times about hey,
we want to make sure he comes in gets put
in position to succeed. We have a guy out there
that people think is going to potentially be the guy,
but in the end, he's just a placeholder for our
next quarterback of the future to get up and over.
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And that's how this is gonna unfold. You see the reaction.
You see what the team says about Mac Jones when
he's in the huddle. Hey, the guy's in charge. The
guy does things. He reminds me of Brady. He makes
good throws, he throws a catchable ball. What about Camp,
Oh hey, Cam's great? What about Mac Jones? Well, Mac
Jones does all these things at a B C. Dan
at Cam. He's a sharp dresser man. He's got good ads,
he's got good he's got good suits. All he's got
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good he's got good game. What was the question, who's
the quarterback? Oh? Boy, I tell you I like Mac Jones.
I mean, really, it's going to be Mac Jones. It's
some quarterback Derby's are created equal and some of them
are not. And this is not one that's created equal.
This is all about Hey, let's leave him in the shadows,
give him the bulk of the playing time. I'm in
the games until we can say it's now time for you,
and that's gonna be sometime just before week one. I
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don't believe that the Patriots want Mac Jones going through
the summer knowing he's the guy, even though they know
how it's going to end. So they don't want him
to get any sense of entitlement or have to worry
about answering questions. You're the number one guy. Uh, this
is gonna be one of those. After week three, sometime
in the few days leading up to week one, that's
when they say Mac Jones is the quarterback. Sounds gonna
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drag it out, make him keep working. And obviously for
for cam Newton, all the reps that he can get,
because look, you have no idea how these are gonna flow.
Uh what you would assume once Jones has the job,
it does not get relinquished. But you know, my my
thoughts and all that. When people say, well, you can't
bench him, it's like, yeah, yeah you can, because you
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know there's still learning that has to happen. And well,
but like it's the Carson Wentz thing. If the guy
can't handle it knowing he's got to go back to work,
refine the skills, put the work in on film and
on the field to win his job back, then he's
not the guy you want. And so for mac Jones,
if he gets the NOD week one, you know, and
struggles out of the gate. Well, you've got a guy
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in Cam Newton. Yes, it's a long way away from
the m v P years, but there were moments last
year before COVID that he showed he could still be
an electrifying player. So it's nice to have that off
to side. Then you've got Brian Hoyer, who's always there
for you. Sorry, I had to do it because he
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of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
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with My best friend Mike Harmon. Yes, Sir, Field of
Dreams game in Iowa that now has sucked up all
the oxygen in the sports room. If sports in one room,
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and Mac Jones was there, and Dwayne Haskins was there,
and Urban Myers they're saying, Hey, I might not go
with Trevor Lawrence is my starting quarterback. They all just
got blown out of the room by what we just
saw in the ninth inning. Look, there's certain things that
are just cool, and there's certain things that cut through
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and become touchstones. And this game tonight was that this
was such a cool three plus hours of baseball with
all the pageantry surrounding the field of dreams game. You know,
we see the actors, we see things with Kevin Costner,
the White Sox uniforms, the players walking in from the corn,
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the beginning of the game, and it's topped off with
two mammoth Yankee home runs in the ninth inning to
turn a deficit into a lead. Where wow, look at
what just happened. The Yankees are gonna ruin our storybook,
White Sox ending the evil Empire. Look, that's what the
Yankees do. They were losing and they had to to
run bobbedly ninth I judge and standing two guys everybody
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hates the most, so they were down, and they score
four times to take an eight seven lead. And then
the bottom of the ninth thinging two outs. White sucks
have nothing going on. Oh they got a runner at first,
and then some scrawny kid comes out of the dugout
swinging a couple of bats. Says Graham on the back
of his jersey, comes up to the plate, winks at
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the picture picture, tries to knock him down, stands up again,
looks the picture in the eye, sees the winning run
on first and make himself in the tying run at
first base, and Graham swings and this is the result.
Pitch is hit in the air. White sucks when the
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field of DRAMs nine the final. So now I'm not
I'm not I'm not joking on this. Now he's moonlight Anderson, right,
isn't that as he's moonlight Anderson. Yeah, that's yeah, that's
when he can call himself whatever. I mean, he knew
it as soon as it left the bat. John Smalls
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just laughing, going wow, right there is when he knew. Uh,
and then he cattle act around the bases, little celebration
and uh, just a crazy end that Len Casper call.
Remember he was one of the great editions. When the
Cubs started purging, he was first. He went over to
the White Sox to join the radio booth. But just
a crazy end because you had one out right. Mendic
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grounds out the first seby Zavala. The catcher comes up,
he'd homered earlier in the game, but he comes up,
goes down O two one to count foul ball down
the third base line. It took the one extra little
hops so on review, all right, go back, he was
thrown out and then Britain throws Street three straight balls
to to put him on base, to lead to Anderson. Uh.
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Just crazy. Uh. Now on the year Hendricks with ex
blown saves, he's given up ten home runs with his
effort tonight, Uh, and he was the most relieved man
in the building. But you know all the cliches of
couldn't script this any better. There's one of the guys.
Remember when we argued about faces of the game. That's
one of the guys. I've been trying to get up
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in your girl with Tim Anderson, and tonight will help
put him on the map in a whole other way. No,
you know what, No, I muna say, this is a
load of crap. You know what, act like you've hit
a home run before. I mean, I know it's a
game winning home running the corn field in the cor No,
there's somewhat putting out a bounty on that ball, that
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ball in the corn and someone just teeted out five
minutes ago. So that corn field is gonna look like
absolute crap tomorrow because everybody's going to look for those
eight home run balls that made it in be a
pro be a pro you've hit home runs before. Just
hit the home run, walk off the field, and you
get back at it tomorrow. I mean, come on, man,
I mean really look at this. Look at all this
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big seller bration, all this fun stuff going on. Act
like you've hit one before. This is a load of
crap in my Carmen right here? Uh, Tim Anderson, whatever
I got, No, you might as well given you know,
decided to channel whoever it is you're trying to quote
right there. But you know, like you had the grand
stage and we talked about it in the in the
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first hour, just the the setting, the build up, and
even going back two years ago when it was first announced,
before the construction, before any of it was like, oh
cool concept, right, because we've had you know, your NHL games,
We've had the college hoops on on the naval carrier.
We we've seen some some gimmicks. I guess, would you
know work the gimmick, as the Rock always says, so
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building the field next to the Field of Dreams Stadium
and putting up eight thousand seats, and and they did
the montage showing all the dirt that had to be
moved and and the corn planted one by one everything.
You know that it more than lived up to the
hype even before the ending, right just as the day
got here, and all the bits of the electricality, players
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entering from the corn, all of that, and it just
it just tugged at you. You know, it's one of
those for you and I, you know, growing up living
loving sports, whatever our relationship was in in many other
ways to other things in our lives. Uh, that was pure,
It really was. You know, you can try for the
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sports can try to do different things to try to
improve themselves, improve their visibility and improve the game. Right.
We can talk about baseball's gotta push their players more.
They have to push rivalries more. You've got to add
more teams to the playoffs, all these and then you
get a moment like this where hey, it's a one
off game, we're playing in the corn, it's Iowa, and
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it just becomes a moment because it's a hot, sweaty
August night and field of dreams game is something that
cuts through the clutter and even quarterback battles in in
in whether you're in Washington or wing Land or quarterback
Derby's that are going to take place later on in
the season, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, all of that pales with what
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goes on tonight. With this game. Things just cut through
the clutter sometimes and the cool factor is off the charts.
And that's what this was. The Field of Dreams game.
I guarantee you people just tuned over just to see
what the what the corn looked like in the outfield.
I just got to see what the corn looks like.
And then I'll watch a few minutes of it and
it's an event, and I don't know how you top it.
I don't know how you how you go past this.
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You had the Yankees, the most hated franchise in all
of sports, losing in a very heartbreaking way after very
evilly taking the lead in the top of the inning,
and everybody who watched this game wins as long as
you're not a Yankee fan, because the Yankees lost, and
and the White Sox win, and the team that this
movie was about and throwing the World Series in nineteen
and all these different historical lessons that people are gonna
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learn over the course the next day or so. Because
of this game. It just everything just falls into place,
and it's not that you can suddenly say, oh, okay,
let's play every game in the corn. But sometimes you
hit on something and it's I can't believe this was
the impact. I can't. We've seen baseball try, we've seen
we've seen basketball teams play games on aircraft carriers. Well,
you know, we've seen let's let's change we have the
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outdoor game in the NHL. Okay, and yeah, all right,
it's become kind of a thing. Nothing has hit like
this baseball game. Nothing has hit like this baseball game
in the corner in Iowa. Well, it strikes, you know,
for guys are our age and even the generation following.
And I hate to put myself that old that it's
the generation of follows. I mean, this movie just has
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has a hold. And I watched on social media and
headlines popping up all day of folks doing everything they
can to denigrate it. It's like, do what you gotta do.
You know, if you want to come across as having
no soul, uh, that's fine by you. Uh you gotta
work through those issues. But it's it's the kind of
thing that I mean, this is, this is not thirty
plus years or alive. I mean, you you talk about
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the evil Empire. Only appropriate that you've got the voice
of James earl Owns connected not only to the movie, right,
the speech that we know so well of you know
they will most definitely come, uh and all of those
the timeless nature of the game. It was one of
those connecting kind of kind of moments that that you know,
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it's a movie that everybody's seen, whether you want to
then fight about your favorite baseball movies or whatever. It
got baseball fans talking, It got people fired up. I
had a couple of people that were going, you know what,
I like the clear the mechanism moment of for love
of the game. I did that, Man, I did that.
It just got it. And obviously I'm thrilled that not
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only for the result, but just that the White Sox
and and a team on the come was selected to
be there, right, because that that shows you've arrived if
they're gonna let you be part of the inaugural and
Rob Banford immediately saying hey, before this thing even went
off today, Yeah, we're gonna do this again. There's no question. One.
They invested a ton of money. Uh, so they're not
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gonna do a one and done unless it was a
complete and abject failure. And the only thing that could
have done that, I think is if the skies would
have opened and and rained for hours and hours as
it had in Chicago earlier over the weekend and into
the beginning of the week. But I mean, every everything
you could want in this game happened. You got eight
home runs. Maybe they got to look at the dimensions
because of that, but other than you got what you
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wanted for the eight thousand there. I mean, it's it's
really a once in a lifetime experience. All the players
coming in talking about it like a little kid. Even
on the pregame. You got guys in the Hall of Fame, right,
you got Poppy whatever you think of Alex Rodriguez, You've
got Frank Thomas, and they're talking about it like their
tent again, right, memories with their parents and and and
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things of that nature. And certainly um when Costner was
on set with them in the pre game, same thing,
just like this reverential you know that Chris Farley with
the Beatles, you know, with Paul McCartney kind of thing
of Hey, you know that that scene, you know, it's
that kind of and it's what brings us all back.
I mean we talk about it all the time. Sports
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is the great connector and leader for so many things.
And for today, maybe it prompted a text message of
phone calling, a check in across and with one hell
of a finish, my phone has been blowing up going
on fifteen minutes. Now. Well, it's it's it's weird because
when you're young and you are impressionable with sports and
movies are impressionable are you? And if you're a certain
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age you watch what look any age you watch Field
of Dreams and it's an incredible movie. You talk about
something that stood the test of time that you would
go back and you would say, maybe that was best picture,
Maybe that should have won the Oscar for Best Picture. Uh.
There there is that romanticism part of it, right, What
is Brad Pitt saying moneyball? How do you not get
romantic about baseball? Of all the sports, of all the
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sports that are out there, you know, football and basketball
and side everything else, there is no sport that you
can mysticize and romanticize more about than baseball. It just
it just has that built into it. It has all
the end of visual stories that are built in and
baseball has even though we've been playing this game. Look,
I go back to Jason Stark all the time, playing
the game for over a hundred some odd years. Now
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do you get new stuff all the time? Right here
you go? We had a game one in a corn
field in Iowa on a walk off home run. It
really is hard to not get romantic about baseball. You
can be passionate about football, and they're still games. I
think about that the Jets played in the eighties that
I go, what the hell are they doing in that game? Man?
I mean, I still think about but there is nothing
more romantic and pure about baseball. And look, as I've
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gotten older, am I romantic? And look, no, I'm fifty,
I have a mortgage, you know, I got a family
and trying to figure out different things. You know, you
can't just sit back and spend time talking about movies
all the time. That's why I like to do the show,
or I can do it here with you. You You lose
that part of it, right because it happens. You grow
up and and and that's kind of how things go.
Doesn't mean you can't still love things and look back.
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But but baseball is one of those things that always
will will take me back, and I think everybody more
so than any other sport. The romanticism about the game
is never gonna leave. That's why it was America's game
for so long. That's why it was America's past time.
And yes, it has been passed in popularity by football,
but it is still a timeless sport. You can watch
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a baseball game from now and then compared to a
baseball game from two thousand and compared to a baseball
game in nineteen eighty, compared to a baseball game in
nineteen sixty to nineteen forty to nineteen twenty nine hundred,
and the game would look the same. The only thing
that would be different would be, well, what's the broadcast
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of the game gonna look like? How grainy is the
footage going to be? You watch all other sports man,
it's it's it's tough to decipher what look at this
change in the in in in the NFL going back
from nineteen seventy five. Where are you know? Baseball is timeless?
I mean it's it's it's a cliche, but it is.
And it's that sport more than anything else that can
bring about something like this. The NFL couldn't have a
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moment like this. The NBA couldn't have a moment like this,
No other sport but baseball could. Buddy. I was going
through before we started this evening, you know, one of
those uh go through the errands, what do you need
to make lists of? And unfortunately, as you talked about
mortgages and and reality whatever, well one of the realities
for me is all right, should something befall me. Not
that I'm expecting to you know, cash my chips at
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anytime soon, but I gotta make sense of what the
hell is it laying around for the girls so they
know what is So I was making a log of,
you know, just graded cards that I put aside. Yes,
baseball card collectors still there. I was like, all right,
sixty one All Star Willie May, sixty six tops Mickey Mantle,
and I'm going back to, you know, cards that I
had really beat up versions as a kid, and slowly,
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you know, trying to add some of those cool pieces
and and certainly for the players and stars of of
our time growing up. Here's a Jerry Rice, here's a
cool early Brady card. Whatever. But that's what I was doing.
As the game got underway, and as we're we're prepping
to talk here on Fox Sports Radio, it's just part
it's part of you know, what we did, what we do,
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and you know, the pandemic I think brought a lot
of people back, not only to the memorabilia and how
do I make a buck off of this, but also
going back and celebrating the journeys of the players. Right,
how much we did with Miguel Cabreras for under home run, Like,
those are all important things, those stats, those milestones. Um,
the first time you went to Stadium X on a
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road trip, right, I remember going to Fenway Park when
they played the Yankees and they're being thirty security guards
in the section uh, and the security guard just saying, good,
you've got no no colors of either side in I'm like,
all right, it's gonna be one of those nights. I mean,
those things you remember, they stick with you forever, and
tonight one of those nights for baseball. Big congratulations to
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major League Baseball and we don't do that demand for
it often, and certainly to our our team. You know,
our teammates and colleagues at at Big Fox for what
they pulled off tonight and the teams were putting on
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What's happening? Man? What's going on? Brother? How are you? What? Buddy?
To say? We're back to normal stuff now and there's
look ball and games and fans and hit its outstanding.
We have an outstanding night tonight. It felt great the
other night and we're at the whole of fan game
and um just you know, to stand on the field
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to feel it again. And I don't know, you know
when the world will be normal again, if you will.
Cal was before a pandemic. But it just felt good
to have that, you know, that distraction, if you will,
and um, just to feel a little bit more normal
that that we have in last year. It was. It
was great. And now we get to quarterback Derby's and
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quarterback competitions and Matt Jones and Cam Newton and Mac
Jones gets a standing ovation hit the game tonight. Jay,
is it just a matter of time before he takes over? No,
I can't say that. I don't know. You know, look,
here's event. The NFL is different the place obviously, like
you know, Billyjacks his system and how much you have
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to learn, um at a place like that. It's just different.
So I know everybody wants to look and to go,
oh man, let's put tray Lands in. Now, let's put
Mac Jones and now it's It is so different than
anything these guys, you know, I have experienced before. But
also like these pre season games, everybody kind of gets
charged up and you know they get excited about what happens.
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But teams do not caves land pre season, so you're
not really getting a good cage. Look at it's a
quarterback in there, and you know, in a regular in
season game, you're breaking down film on this guy. There's
cut up, some puny do certain situations. I mean, they
have so many specific things to that quarterback that they're
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trying to throw off. That's just not the case here
in pre season. So it's not it's not an honest stage.
If you will, Jay, let me stay with the young quarterbacks.
Jalen Hurts. Is he Nick Serriani's guy right now? He is?
I mean, if they can pull up Tray fri Shahn Wawnson, Uh,
you know, I don't know, but there's certainly you know,
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it's so cheap with that they do one of the
teams being interested. There's a few teams that are interested.
And Deshan Watson still but again because dejections just haven't
been calling anybody back, still trying to come out in
some way they still think that Deshan watch him's gonna
be like, yeah, you know what, Okay, oh good now, okay,
I'll play here against just I mean, I don't know
what they're picking or why did they take that. So
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they haven't really been you know, answering calls back better
and surely not called teams back about it. Um. But
right now janlens this guy. Yeah, and there is there
without at either best option, and they've got a you know,
they've got to kind of see how far they count
run with them. We got in the locker room, they
like them. They also realized like yeah, we it's a
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new offense and new guy. You know, there's just so
many question marks there. Jake Lazer our guest here the
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon. All Right, we we
hop over to the Steelers tonight, and clearly they're looking
for something in case Ben Roethlisberger falters. They're moving on.
And Dwayne Haskins certainly had a pretty good night tonight.
And I gonna say it's a pretty good redemption story
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for him, But is does he have enough that hey,
if something happens, Wayne Haskins can step in and run
this team no, it's a preseason game. I don't know
like saying it's like, man, there's so much help to see.
I'll say this, You'll see guys appreciates it that they
tear it up and you're like wow. And then all
of a sudden it's cut down day under God and
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it's people like, oh my gosh, this guy let the
league rusty in the preseason. It's preseason now. I was
with the Steelers the other day. They do want to
see what Dwayne Haskins had, but they're so far up
from that right now, Like right now, it's you know,
their ags are in Ben's basket without a doubt, without
a doubt. But they gotta see. They don't know, you know,
if Dwayne Haskins there're a god. They just started hitting.
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Is their first pre season game, so they have the
ideal what kind of verse he's gonna go through? How
many is gonna grow because certainly what they've seen the
best from from Washington, that's not gonna cut it right.
But he has an opportunity. I will say this, Dwayne Askins,
without a doubt, has an opportunity to show that, you know,
to show the team like hey, I could be your
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guy going forward, he has an opportunity. I don't know
if he's gonna be able to take that groun with it,
but he definitely will have that opportunity that they're gonna
look for him. They certainly would love for him to
step up and do that guy Absolutely all right, Jakes
gonna be back and after bend they're gonna go find
somewhere else. Obviously, well that quest is on. At least
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they're looking now, right. We had years where they didn't
seem to be all right. Take me back to Hall
of Fame weekend and the John Lynch celebration, which song
by Lionel Richie really got you going, Hello, is it
me you're looking for? Because Lynch was looking for the
guy who's spilt red wine on his jacket. Again, I'm
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still plausible deniability. I'm just I was just not totally
gonna admit it what we've dam just not fully gonna
admit it. It was so funny. He rolled over on
me so fast, and he drove that he drove the
butts over me and backed up and drove it back.
But you know, it was pretty cool. The next night, man,
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we're sitting there at Peyton Manning's party and I'm sitting
there like one of those like oh my god, God,
how do I get here? Moments? And it's me lynch Rande,
Tony Dungee, James Lofton, Tim Brown to Marcus Ware And
you know, it sounds like I'm the biggest name, the
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biggest name drop forever. But that's it's not the case
like that, Who was that? That? Who's out these parties?
You know, it's just like, but this is like this
little turgle amount right now, And I'm like, man if
it's just incredible. Jake lazer On guest here, all right, Jake,
before you let you go. Hey, the big news yesterday
it looked at Carson Wentz maybe back for week one.
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Quint Nelson also could be back for a week one,
which is absolutely huge news as well. Uh Is that
is that feeling realistic that hey, we can put our
eggs in that week one basket for him? Yeah? Absolutely,
Well it's you know, I think they have a five
better than shot. But even if he's not read one,
it's not gonna be far off of that. We two
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weeks three. That's why. Look, I said it on our
Hall of Fame. So even though they were saying that
it's five to twelve weeks. Was by the way, five
to twelve weeks. That's like saying like, oh, it can't
be you know, one to forty two years. Like it
was hilarious. It was great. I loved it. It was hilarious,
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and everybody just kind of took it like, hey guys,
that's between one and three months, so you know, and
it kind of bought cards in time. But um, but
I also said that that they were they were looking
at just as kind of druy. They just took a
phone out and you go, It's not like they went
in there and served a bunch of screws and put
it plate in. That's not what happened. So they were
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always looking at it like you'd be on the earlier
part rather than later part. And when had happened, everybody
was like, oh my gosh, are they gonna go trade
for somebody? I mean all the people that were saying
they're gonna trade from Nick Foles Dad, he walked with
the Nick Foles you know situation here with Carson Palmer
paying it happen again or people like Cope with Philip
Riverersly to come out like and they never looked at
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it like that. They're like, they always looked at it like, Hey,
it's Carson hover along with them without him, without him,
But we didn't they didn't think it was gonna be
a long time. He's on Twitter at Jake Lazer. That's
at Jay Glazer, also the founder of m V team
Merging vets and Players. Hey check out his most recent
tweet as he takes you behind the scenes of the
photo shoot for the Sexiest Bald Man Live Award again
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one by Jake Glazer. Jay, congratulations on that round away
with it, a round away with the ones once again.
That's what you call dynastic effort there, Jay, big buddy,
We'll talk to you a buddy, safe travels. That great
stuff there from Jake Glazer. Look, I I said it
last night. I was happy with hearing the time frame
on Carson Wentz. But but now if it's week one
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and week three at the latest, yeah, the cults are
going to be fine because maybe you find a way
if he's not there, you can split the first couple
of games you're one and one, you find a way
to win at ugly one like sixteen ten or thirteen nine,
something like that as long as that that's when he's
coming back, and then the calendar says September. Yeah, I'm fine.
I'm still sticking with Mike Colts to the a f
(32:25):
C Championship Game. Well, like I told you, as long
as the UH updates are the same for Quentin Nelson,
it's all good. And for anybody that wanted to talk
about Nick Foles, go back and actually watch what he
did with the Bears. I'm telling you he was terrible,
but he's a third He's your third string quarterback for
a reason. Man, Yeah you're still there? Why bring back Das?
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How do how? Why do I think at some point
Nick Foles is gonna wind up starting in September? You
know what? You go to Hell? Okay, you go and
joy Zach Wilson, Well yeah, yeah, Like dude, he's had
three good practices in a row man. Maybe he's actually
following this stuff. Shirk. Be sure to catch live editions
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of The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at
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and the I Heart Radio app. Steelers and the Eagles
just finished Pittsburgh wins at twenty four to sixteen. No
matter what you tell me, there is no way I'm
going to back away from Ben. Roethlisberger is finished, and
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at some point the Steeler is gonna realize that maybe
week nine, week ten, he can feel as fresh as
he wants to. Now it's the middle of August, everybody's great,
Come see me after week nine, like last year when
suddenly Roethlisberger couldn't throw the ball more than ten yards,
and it's not going to be a gentle good night
for Roethlisberger. Always just gonna stay corporate. No, the Steelers
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gonna say, dude, if you can't throw, we have to
go to somebody else. And that's why the big story
of this game is Dwayne Haskins, Mason Rudolph, who's gonna
win that job? And clearly tonight there's a big winner,
and that's Dwayne Haskins, who threw for a buck sixty
one and a touchdown. I mean, he's the guy they
brought him in to succeed Roethlisberger this year to say
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when Week nine comes and he can't throw, we are
not gonna go through what happened last year. We start
out eleven and oh and it's gonna be Super Bowl
and hopefield advantage, and suddenly Ben can't throw the ball anymore,
and the Steelers just absolutely spiraled from there, absolutely spiraled.
They're not gonna go through that again. They're not gonna
give Roethlisberger a big wave, a goodbye. Look look at
Eli Man and got bench in his final year with
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the Giants. So they brought Dwayne Haskins in as a curiosity,
as someone who they thought he will let's go back
to the guy he was when he came out of
the draft. It hasn't been that long for him, and
he's in a new system. We we we carry him
and and and treat him a little bit differently, and
hopefully he has matured because a lot of his wounds
in Washington were self inflicted, not realizing what it means
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to be a quarterback in the NFL. But make no mistake,
the Steelers brought him in specifically that he can succeed
roth Aisburger, and he can do it in the middle
of the season when Roethlisberger suddenly can't throw the football
because the steal. You know, every day they think we
were eleven and o last year, we were eleven and
oh eleven and oh we were eleven, and oh didn't
even make it to the conference championship game. We were eleven,
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and oh, that is not going to happen to us
this year. Dwayne Haskins watch Week nine, Week ten, He's
gonna be playing quarterback. I appreciate your your bold prediction.
I'm gonna say you're wrong for a couple of reasons. Uh,
number one you had do you want to talk about
the back end? At first? Off, mcadoo's still an idiot
all these years later for that move he could defend
until he's blew in the face. That was just a
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jackass move. Finish it out. Your team was going nowhere.
Having Davis Webb as a an answer to a trivia
question in the Greater New York area doesn't endear you
too many. But I move on with Pittsburgh attrition on defense,
number of injuries down the stretch, as well as a crumbling,
disintegrating off times pathetic offensive line combined with no semblance
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of a run game left Ben Roethlisberg going one one
thousand hot route get rid of the ball. So I
don't know how much was arms strength, because that that's
the question. That's only he can answer, and he's not
gonna be a hundred percent truthful on it. Right, how
much was the off season surgery going into last year
and a big effect, uh having a big effect on
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his ability versus all right, this is just what the
offense can be based on these other crumbling building blocks
that we have here. So I think with a seventeen
game season, having a guy that you trust, and certainly
with the play tonight, I saw a report from Brooke Prior,
who covers the Steelers, uh that you know, all the
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coaches have been citing Hey game over practice in terms
of what they were able to do, and certainly Dwayne
Haskins moved the ball effectively led them to several scoring drives. Uh.
So he gets the w today which probably pushed is
him into the number two spot. And if he's any
semblance of the guy that was drafted in the first round,
and you can find that guy again, and the culture
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of the Steelers and the steely eyes of Mike Tomlin
is a place where whereby you might find that that
he'll he'll be at the ready and maybe you'll need to, uh,
I don't know, load manage Ben Roethlisberger for a game
or two. But I don't think borrowing injury. Uh, he
supplants him all together. But it's fun that we actually
have that discussion, that it can be on there, and
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that you're such a champion of Dwayne Haskins. It's happened, happening,
It's happened. Look, it's it's kind of one of those
well he seems like he's damaged goods, But we really
don't know where our next quarterback is gonna come from,
because unless we you finished with the number one pick,
it's not guaranteed you're gonna get the guy you want.
So yeah, let's go take a shot at Dwayne Haskins.
And and it's worked out so far, and he's looked good.
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He looked good tonight, and you think maybe a change
of scenery. Look, he's a curiosity, he's a it's it's
found money. Hey, you know what, Look we plan if
he's If he's good, great, we got somebody to go to.
If not, then we'll we'll find somebody else. Do they
really wanted Mason Rudolph to be the backup quarterback? That
would have just stuck with Mason Rudolph, They wouldn't have
gone to sign Dwayne Haskins. They are looking past Ben Roethlisberger.
And trust me, it's not next season. It's about what
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do we do when Roethlisberger can't do it and we
have to go to somebody that can put points on
the boards. We've done it with Mason Rudolph before and
we just couldn't score right. So now Haskins is someone
who has come in with a much better grade and pedigree,
and me, it's not too long from the beginning of
his career where we can teach him new and and
and get him back to being the quarterback that he
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was evaluated to be. That this is why, I mean,
this is how you do it. And if the if
the Steelers hadn't started outlet and finished last year the
way they did in Roethlisberger clearly just had nothing left,
then you know, maybe not for Dwayne Haskins, but this
is a huge sign saying, hey, if he's bad, we
got the guy. And this is Roethlisberger knowing, Hey, as
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much as I've done for this organization, if I'm bad,
He's gonna be the guy and I'm gonna have to
worry about holding onto my job and not finishing up
my NFL career on the sideline. You know, Week six
team with a big h. You know, we're playing at
home and I got a big scarf around my face
and no one can see just my eyes and I'm
holding my shoulder pads and I get that big tight
look in and now just go. This is Ben Roethlisberger's
(39:18):
farewell game. You have to wonder if he's going to
actually get in and play today. But Dwayne Haskins has
been terrific since he's taken over sixteen touchdowns and four interceptions,
He's been fantastic. Dealers have won six in a row.
But maybe Roethlisberger takes in one more snap. All he's
meant to this organ. Oh my god, Quyn Haskins is
on the field. Yay Dwayne Hatskins. Great Dwyne Haskins. That's
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It's not often in the preseason you get standing ovations
for players. Now, granted if it was someone like the Jets,
because there's not a lot of big moments during the season. Yes, yes, here,
but it was a big moment for a brand new
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quarterback who is in the middle of a sham quarterback
derby because tonight one of the two big NFL games
happening right now. The Patriots signal caller of the future
got that. As he got on the field for the
first time, there comes the rookie Matt Joe. Welcome the
Fox for Welcome to the NFL. Wants post tell me
(01:07):
they're not ready for the next cat. They're all so excited,
they're so excited Mac Jones. Yeah, Cam Newton blah blah blah.
I don't like him anymore. He was last year's news.
Now it's about Mac Jones. Look, Mac Jones has come
in for the Patriots and he's done a nice job.
Started out a little slow. Okay, he started out a
little slow, but he did throw the ball pretty well.
(01:29):
He didn't look like the moment was too big for him,
and in in grand fashion, you now have what you
see as a sham quarterback competition between Cam Newton and
Mac Jones. Alright, Cam Newton was four out of seven
for forty nine yards, Mac Jones thirteen out of nineteen
for eighties seven yards. Doesn't matter. This is one of
those like what we call it's a fixed outcome, Like
(01:51):
even though it seems like, hey, anybody can win the job,
and Newton's the guy going in and Mac Jones, this
is a fixed competition. What they want to see happen
is this. I'm keeping all the pressure off of Mac
Jones by saying Cam Newton's the guy. Cam's a guy.
Cam's a guy. Cam's the guy. So Mac Jones can play.
And while they still wait from to play, we understand
Belichick's got his thing and Cam was was was you know,
(02:13):
did okay enough for us last year to bring him back.
Clearly we know mac Jones the future and we'll see
him at some point when the whole plan is to
allow mac Jones to play in as many games as
possible outside of the spotlight and then become the starter
when they have to anoint one for the season. And
that's all. That's that. The only way that Mac Jones
isn't the quarterback to start is if he absolutely falls
(02:35):
on his face and shows, hey, I'm really not ready
and I'm calling plays in the huddle like red seventy
four um high and that's not happening. This is a
fixed and a sham quarterback battle. They well they want
you to think it's a quarterback battle, but it's just
gonna be as soon as mac Jones is ready and
we get to the regular season, it's gonna be Mac
Jones is our guy. I mean, you have to have
(02:56):
somebody else just in case, and I get that's why
they brought Cam Newton back, but he is completely on
borrow time and maybe after week three, but you're gonna
see Newton play just a little bit and mac Jones
get a lot of opportunity to play, to show that
he can be the guy and have a big body
of work where it seems like it's a it's a
no brainer. This is a fixed quarterback derby and mac
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Jones is going to win well. And if you watch this,
and I know you did because you were enamored with
seeing everything positive going for the Patriots in your division.
A couple of really pretty balls beat through man. One
that was a diving catch by Jacoby Myers, al right fingertips,
so they didn't review it. Move on, play continues. But
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then he did a lollipop you know as they called
it on the broadcast, you know, drop it in the bucket,
kind of like Aaron Rodgers been throwing the ball into
the bag or trash can or whatever, showing off his accuracy.
This spring summer, once again, mac Jones did one of
those wide receiver, made a terrible play on the ball,
surprised he wasn't given a pink slip and sent away
(03:59):
right after that, But it was, uh, just I don't know,
you when we see the young guys come in and
throw the ball with that kind of confidence, crowd obviously
behind him and wanting him. I think I have to uh,
I have to agree with you. You're gonna be ruing
uh this day for the next decade or so as
he torments you up and down the field. Cam's there
(04:20):
because he came back on a on a lower cost, right,
he was a backup, knowing that that was probably going
to be his role. If if Jones was everything as
advertised and at least from what we saw tonight. We've
read all the reports, but you finally get to see
it beyond more than one or two throws in a
(04:40):
practice recap video. Uh, he looks like a guy ready
for the job and running with the ones, playing against
the ones. Acquitted himself really nicely here. So right now
you've got the you know, eyebrows, eyes wide open, and
everybody kind of perked up at all. Right, there's rookie
(05:01):
number one. What about the rest of him? Yeah, look,
and this is this is just how it's done. And
we've seen it unfold this way so many times about hey,
we want to make sure he comes in gets put
in position to succeed. We have a guy out there
that people think is going to potentially be the guy,
but in the end, he's just a placeholder for our
next quarterback of the future to get up and over.
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And that's how this is gonna unfold. You see the reaction.
You see what the team says about Mac Jones when
he's in the huddle. Hey, the guy's in charge. The
guy does things. He reminds me of Brady. He makes
good throws, he throws a catchable ball. What about Camp,
Oh hey, Cam's great? What about Mac Jones? Well, Mac
Jones does all these things at a B C. Dan
at Cam. He's a sharp dresser man. He's got good ads,
he's got good he's got good suits. All he's got
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good he's got good game. What was the question, who's
the quarterback? Oh? Boy, I tell you I like Mac Jones.
I mean, really, it's going to be Mac Jones. It's
some quarterback Derby's are created equal and some of them
are not. And this is not one that's created equal.
This is all about Hey, let's leave him in the shadows,
give him the bulk of the playing time. I'm in
the games until we can say it's now time for you,
and that's gonna be sometime just before week one. I
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don't believe that the Patriots want Mac Jones going through
the summer knowing he's the guy, even though they know
how it's going to end. So they don't want him
to get any sense of entitlement or have to worry
about answering questions. You're the number one guy. Uh, this
is gonna be one of those. After week three, sometime
in the few days leading up to week one, that's
when they say Mac Jones is the quarterback. Sounds gonna
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drag it out, make him keep working. And obviously for
for cam Newton, all the reps that he can get,
because look, you have no idea how these are gonna flow.
Uh what you would assume once Jones has the job,
it does not get relinquished. But you know, my my
thoughts and all that. When people say, well, you can't
bench him, it's like, yeah, yeah you can, because you
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know there's still learning that has to happen. And well,
but like it's the Carson Wentz thing. If the guy
can't handle it knowing he's got to go back to work,
refine the skills, put the work in on film and
on the field to win his job back, then he's
not the guy you want. And so for mac Jones,
if he gets the NOD week one, you know, and
struggles out of the gate. Well, you've got a guy
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in Cam Newton. Yes, it's a long way away from
the m v P years, but there were moments last
year before COVID that he showed he could still be
an electrifying player. So it's nice to have that off
to side. Then you've got Brian Hoyer, who's always there
for you. Sorry, I had to do it because he
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Dreams game in Iowa that now has sucked up all
the oxygen in the sports room. If sports in one room,
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and Mac Jones was there, and Dwayne Haskins was there,
and Urban Myers they're saying, Hey, I might not go
with Trevor Lawrence is my starting quarterback. They all just
got blown out of the room by what we just
saw in the ninth inning. Look, there's certain things that
are just cool, and there's certain things that cut through
(08:18):
and become touchstones. And this game tonight was that this
was such a cool three plus hours of baseball with
all the pageantry surrounding the field of dreams game. You know,
we see the actors, we see things with Kevin Costner,
the White Sox uniforms, the players walking in from the corn,
(08:39):
the beginning of the game, and it's topped off with
two mammoth Yankee home runs in the ninth inning to
turn a deficit into a lead. Where wow, look at
what just happened. The Yankees are gonna ruin our storybook,
White Sox ending the evil Empire. Look, that's what the
Yankees do. They were losing and they had to to
run bobbedly ninth I judge and standing two guys everybody
(09:02):
hates the most, so they were down, and they score
four times to take an eight seven lead. And then
the bottom of the ninth thinging two outs. White sucks
have nothing going on. Oh they got a runner at first,
and then some scrawny kid comes out of the dugout
swinging a couple of bats. Says Graham on the back
of his jersey, comes up to the plate, winks at
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the picture picture, tries to knock him down, stands up again,
looks the picture in the eye, sees the winning run
on first and make himself in the tying run at
first base, and Graham swings and this is the result.
Pitch is hit in the air. White sucks when the
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field of DRAMs nine the final. So now I'm not
I'm not I'm not joking on this. Now he's moonlight Anderson, right,
isn't that as he's moonlight Anderson. Yeah, that's yeah, that's
when he can call himself whatever. I mean, he knew
it as soon as it left the bat. John Smalls
(10:10):
just laughing, going wow, right there is when he knew. Uh,
and then he cattle act around the bases, little celebration
and uh, just a crazy end that Len Casper call.
Remember he was one of the great editions. When the
Cubs started purging, he was first. He went over to
the White Sox to join the radio booth. But just
a crazy end because you had one out right. Mendic
(10:33):
grounds out the first seby Zavala. The catcher comes up,
he'd homered earlier in the game, but he comes up,
goes down O two one to count foul ball down
the third base line. It took the one extra little
hops so on review, all right, go back, he was
thrown out and then Britain throws Street three straight balls
to to put him on base, to lead to Anderson. Uh.
(10:55):
Just crazy. Uh. Now on the year Hendricks with ex
blown saves, he's given up ten home runs with his
effort tonight, Uh, and he was the most relieved man
in the building. But you know all the cliches of
couldn't script this any better. There's one of the guys.
Remember when we argued about faces of the game. That's
one of the guys. I've been trying to get up
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in your girl with Tim Anderson, and tonight will help
put him on the map in a whole other way. No,
you know what, No, I muna say, this is a
load of crap. You know what, act like you've hit
a home run before. I mean, I know it's a
game winning home running the corn field in the cor No,
there's somewhat putting out a bounty on that ball, that
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ball in the corn and someone just teeted out five
minutes ago. So that corn field is gonna look like
absolute crap tomorrow because everybody's going to look for those
eight home run balls that made it in be a
pro be a pro you've hit home runs before. Just
hit the home run, walk off the field, and you
get back at it tomorrow. I mean, come on, man,
I mean really look at this. Look at all this
(11:59):
big seller bration, all this fun stuff going on. Act
like you've hit one before. This is a load of
crap in my Carmen right here? Uh, Tim Anderson, whatever
I got, No, you might as well given you know,
decided to channel whoever it is you're trying to quote
right there. But you know, like you had the grand
stage and we talked about it in the in the
(12:19):
first hour, just the the setting, the build up, and
even going back two years ago when it was first announced,
before the construction, before any of it was like, oh
cool concept, right, because we've had you know, your NHL games,
We've had the college hoops on on the naval carrier.
We we've seen some some gimmicks. I guess, would you
know work the gimmick, as the Rock always says, so
(12:42):
building the field next to the Field of Dreams Stadium
and putting up eight thousand seats, and and they did
the montage showing all the dirt that had to be
moved and and the corn planted one by one everything.
You know that it more than lived up to the
hype even before the ending, right just as the day
got here, and all the bits of the electricality, players
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entering from the corn, all of that, and it just
it just tugged at you. You know, it's one of
those for you and I, you know, growing up living
loving sports, whatever our relationship was in in many other
ways to other things in our lives. Uh, that was pure,
It really was. You know, you can try for the
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sports can try to do different things to try to
improve themselves, improve their visibility and improve the game. Right.
We can talk about baseball's gotta push their players more.
They have to push rivalries more. You've got to add
more teams to the playoffs, all these and then you
get a moment like this where hey, it's a one
off game, we're playing in the corn, it's Iowa, and
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it just becomes a moment because it's a hot, sweaty
August night and field of dreams game is something that
cuts through the clutter and even quarterback battles in in
in whether you're in Washington or wing Land or quarterback
Derby's that are going to take place later on in
the season, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, all of that pales with what
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goes on tonight. With this game. Things just cut through
the clutter sometimes and the cool factor is off the charts.
And that's what this was. The Field of Dreams game.
I guarantee you people just tuned over just to see
what the what the corn looked like in the outfield.
I just got to see what the corn looks like.
And then I'll watch a few minutes of it and
it's an event, and I don't know how you top it.
I don't know how you how you go past this.
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You had the Yankees, the most hated franchise in all
of sports, losing in a very heartbreaking way after very
evilly taking the lead in the top of the inning,
and everybody who watched this game wins as long as
you're not a Yankee fan, because the Yankees lost, and
and the White Sox win, and the team that this
movie was about and throwing the World Series in nineteen
and all these different historical lessons that people are gonna
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learn over the course the next day or so. Because
of this game. It just everything just falls into place,
and it's not that you can suddenly say, oh, okay,
let's play every game in the corn. But sometimes you
hit on something and it's I can't believe this was
the impact. I can't. We've seen baseball try, we've seen
we've seen basketball teams play games on aircraft carriers. Well,
you know, we've seen let's let's change we have the
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outdoor game in the NHL. Okay, and yeah, all right,
it's become kind of a thing. Nothing has hit like
this baseball game. Nothing has hit like this baseball game
in the corner in Iowa. Well, it strikes, you know,
for guys are our age and even the generation following.
And I hate to put myself that old that it's
the generation of follows. I mean, this movie just has
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has a hold. And I watched on social media and
headlines popping up all day of folks doing everything they
can to denigrate it. It's like, do what you gotta do.
You know, if you want to come across as having
no soul, uh, that's fine by you. Uh you gotta
work through those issues. But it's it's the kind of
thing that I mean, this is, this is not thirty
plus years or alive. I mean, you you talk about
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the evil Empire. Only appropriate that you've got the voice
of James earl Owns connected not only to the movie, right,
the speech that we know so well of you know
they will most definitely come, uh and all of those
the timeless nature of the game. It was one of
those connecting kind of kind of moments that that you know,
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it's a movie that everybody's seen, whether you want to
then fight about your favorite baseball movies or whatever. It
got baseball fans talking, It got people fired up. I
had a couple of people that were going, you know what,
I like the clear the mechanism moment of for love
of the game. I did that, Man, I did that.
It just got it. And obviously I'm thrilled that not
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only for the result, but just that the White Sox
and and a team on the come was selected to
be there, right, because that that shows you've arrived if
they're gonna let you be part of the inaugural and
Rob Banford immediately saying hey, before this thing even went
off today, Yeah, we're gonna do this again. There's no question. One.
They invested a ton of money. Uh, so they're not
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gonna do a one and done unless it was a
complete and abject failure. And the only thing that could
have done that, I think is if the skies would
have opened and and rained for hours and hours as
it had in Chicago earlier over the weekend and into
the beginning of the week. But I mean, every everything
you could want in this game happened. You got eight
home runs. Maybe they got to look at the dimensions
because of that, but other than you got what you
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wanted for the eight thousand there. I mean, it's it's
really a once in a lifetime experience. All the players
coming in talking about it like a little kid. Even
on the pregame. You got guys in the Hall of Fame, right,
you got Poppy whatever you think of Alex Rodriguez, You've
got Frank Thomas, and they're talking about it like their
tent again, right, memories with their parents and and and
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things of that nature. And certainly um when Costner was
on set with them in the pre game, same thing,
just like this reverential you know that Chris Farley with
the Beatles, you know, with Paul McCartney kind of thing
of Hey, you know that that scene, you know, it's
that kind of and it's what brings us all back.
I mean we talk about it all the time. Sports
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is the great connector and leader for so many things.
And for today, maybe it prompted a text message of
phone calling, a check in across and with one hell
of a finish, my phone has been blowing up going
on fifteen minutes. Now. Well, it's it's it's weird because
when you're young and you are impressionable with sports and
movies are impressionable are you? And if you're a certain
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age you watch what look any age you watch Field
of Dreams and it's an incredible movie. You talk about
something that stood the test of time that you would
go back and you would say, maybe that was best picture,
Maybe that should have won the Oscar for Best Picture. Uh.
There there is that romanticism part of it, right, What
is Brad Pitt saying moneyball? How do you not get
romantic about baseball? Of all the sports, of all the
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sports that are out there, you know, football and basketball
and side everything else, there is no sport that you
can mysticize and romanticize more about than baseball. It just
it just has that built into it. It has all
the end of visual stories that are built in and
baseball has even though we've been playing this game. Look,
I go back to Jason Stark all the time, playing
the game for over a hundred some odd years. Now
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do you get new stuff all the time? Right here
you go? We had a game one in a corn
field in Iowa on a walk off home run. It
really is hard to not get romantic about baseball. You
can be passionate about football, and they're still games. I
think about that the Jets played in the eighties that
I go, what the hell are they doing in that game? Man?
I mean, I still think about but there is nothing
more romantic and pure about baseball. And look, as I've
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gotten older, am I romantic? And look, no, I'm fifty,
I have a mortgage, you know, I got a family
and trying to figure out different things. You know, you
can't just sit back and spend time talking about movies
all the time. That's why I like to do the show,
or I can do it here with you. You You lose
that part of it, right because it happens. You grow
up and and and that's kind of how things go.
Doesn't mean you can't still love things and look back.
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But but baseball is one of those things that always
will will take me back, and I think everybody more
so than any other sport. The romanticism about the game
is never gonna leave. That's why it was America's game
for so long. That's why it was America's past time.
And yes, it has been passed in popularity by football,
but it is still a timeless sport. You can watch
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a baseball game from now and then compared to a
baseball game from two thousand and compared to a baseball
game in nineteen eighty, compared to a baseball game in
nineteen sixty to nineteen forty to nineteen twenty nine hundred,
and the game would look the same. The only thing
that would be different would be, well, what's the broadcast
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of the game gonna look like? How grainy is the
footage going to be? You watch all other sports man,
it's it's it's tough to decipher what look at this
change in the in in in the NFL going back
from nineteen seventy five. Where are you know? Baseball is timeless?
I mean it's it's it's a cliche, but it is.
And it's that sport more than anything else that can
bring about something like this. The NFL couldn't have a
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moment like this. The NBA couldn't have a moment like this,
No other sport but baseball could. Buddy. I was going
through before we started this evening, you know, one of
those uh go through the errands, what do you need
to make lists of? And unfortunately, as you talked about
mortgages and and reality whatever, well one of the realities
for me is all right, should something befall me. Not
that I'm expecting to you know, cash my chips at
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anytime soon, but I gotta make sense of what the
hell is it laying around for the girls so they
know what is So I was making a log of,
you know, just graded cards that I put aside. Yes,
baseball card collectors still there. I was like, all right,
sixty one All Star Willie May, sixty six tops Mickey Mantle,
and I'm going back to, you know, cards that I
had really beat up versions as a kid, and slowly,
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you know, trying to add some of those cool pieces
and and certainly for the players and stars of of
our time growing up. Here's a Jerry Rice, here's a
cool early Brady card. Whatever. But that's what I was doing.
As the game got underway, and as we're we're prepping
to talk here on Fox Sports Radio, it's just part
it's part of you know, what we did, what we do,
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and you know, the pandemic I think brought a lot
of people back, not only to the memorabilia and how
do I make a buck off of this, but also
going back and celebrating the journeys of the players. Right,
how much we did with Miguel Cabreras for under home run, Like,
those are all important things, those stats, those milestones. Um,
the first time you went to Stadium X on a
(22:21):
road trip, right, I remember going to Fenway Park when
they played the Yankees and they're being thirty security guards
in the section uh, and the security guard just saying, good,
you've got no no colors of either side in I'm like,
all right, it's gonna be one of those nights. I mean,
those things you remember, they stick with you forever, and
tonight one of those nights for baseball. Big congratulations to
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major League Baseball and we don't do that demand for
it often, and certainly to our our team. You know,
our teammates and colleagues at at Big Fox for what
they pulled off tonight and the teams were putting on
one hell of a show, so thank you. Be sure
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your podcast. Two big games in the NFL tonight, so
many quarterback storylines. Joining us now to break it all
down NFL on Fox Insider extraordinary longtime friend of the show,
(23:49):
Jake Glazer. You can follow me on Twitter at Jay Glazer. Jay.
What's happening? Man? What's going on? Brother? How are you? What? Buddy?
To say? We're back to normal stuff now and there's
look ball and games and fans and hit its outstanding.
We have an outstanding night tonight. It felt great the
other night and we're at the whole of fan game
and um just you know, to stand on the field
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to feel it again. And I don't know, you know
when the world will be normal again, if you will.
Cal was before a pandemic. But it just felt good
to have that, you know, that distraction, if you will,
and um, just to feel a little bit more normal
that that we have in last year. It was. It
was great. And now we get to quarterback Derby's and
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quarterback competitions and Matt Jones and Cam Newton and Mac
Jones gets a standing ovation hit the game tonight. Jay,
is it just a matter of time before he takes over? No,
I can't say that. I don't know. You know, look,
here's event. The NFL is different the place obviously, like
you know, Billyjacks his system and how much you have
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to learn, um at a place like that. It's just different.
So I know everybody wants to look and to go,
oh man, let's put tray Lands in. Now, let's put
Mac Jones and now it's It is so different than
anything these guys, you know, I have experienced before. But
also like these pre season games, everybody kind of gets
charged up and you know they get excited about what happens.
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But teams do not caves land pre season, so you're
not really getting a good cage. Look at it's a
quarterback in there, and you know, in a regular in
season game, you're breaking down film on this guy. There's
cut up, some puny do certain situations. I mean, they
have so many specific things to that quarterback that they're
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trying to throw off. That's just not the case here
in pre season. So it's not it's not an honest stage.
If you will, Jay, let me stay with the young quarterbacks.
Jalen Hurts. Is he Nick Serriani's guy right now? He is?
I mean, if they can pull up Tray fri Shahn Wawnson, Uh,
you know, I don't know, but there's certainly you know,
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it's so cheap with that they do one of the
teams being interested. There's a few teams that are interested.
And Deshan Watson still but again because dejections just haven't
been calling anybody back, still trying to come out in
some way they still think that Deshan watch him's gonna
be like, yeah, you know what, Okay, oh good now, okay,
I'll play here against just I mean, I don't know
what they're picking or why did they take that. So
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they haven't really been you know, answering calls back better
and surely not called teams back about it. Um. But
right now janlens this guy. Yeah, and there is there
without at either best option, and they've got a you know,
they've got to kind of see how far they count
run with them. We got in the locker room, they
like them. They also realized like yeah, we it's a
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new offense and new guy. You know, there's just so
many question marks there. Jake Lazer our guest here the
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon. All Right, we we
hop over to the Steelers tonight, and clearly they're looking
for something in case Ben Roethlisberger falters. They're moving on.
And Dwayne Haskins certainly had a pretty good night tonight.
And I gonna say it's a pretty good redemption story
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for him, But is does he have enough that hey,
if something happens, Wayne Haskins can step in and run
this team no, it's a preseason game. I don't know
like saying it's like, man, there's so much help to see.
I'll say this, You'll see guys appreciates it that they
tear it up and you're like wow. And then all
of a sudden it's cut down day under God and
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it's people like, oh my gosh, this guy let the
league rusty in the preseason. It's preseason now. I was
with the Steelers the other day. They do want to
see what Dwayne Haskins had, but they're so far up
from that right now, Like right now, it's you know,
their ags are in Ben's basket without a doubt, without
a doubt. But they gotta see. They don't know, you know,
if Dwayne Haskins there're a god. They just started hitting.
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Is their first pre season game, so they have the
ideal what kind of verse he's gonna go through? How
many is gonna grow because certainly what they've seen the
best from from Washington, that's not gonna cut it right.
But he has an opportunity. I will say this, Dwayne Askins,
without a doubt, has an opportunity to show that, you know,
to show the team like hey, I could be your
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guy going forward, he has an opportunity. I don't know
if he's gonna be able to take that groun with it,
but he definitely will have that opportunity that they're gonna
look for him. They certainly would love for him to
step up and do that guy Absolutely all right, Jakes
gonna be back and after bend they're gonna go find
somewhere else. Obviously, well that quest is on. At least
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they're looking now, right. We had years where they didn't
seem to be all right. Take me back to Hall
of Fame weekend and the John Lynch celebration, which song
by Lionel Richie really got you going, Hello, is it
me you're looking for? Because Lynch was looking for the
guy who's spilt red wine on his jacket. Again, I'm
(28:50):
still plausible deniability. I'm just I was just not totally
gonna admit it what we've dam just not fully gonna
admit it. It was so funny. He rolled over on
me so fast, and he drove that he drove the
butts over me and backed up and drove it back.
But you know, it was pretty cool. The next night, man,
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we're sitting there at Peyton Manning's party and I'm sitting
there like one of those like oh my god, God,
how do I get here? Moments? And it's me lynch Rande,
Tony Dungee, James Lofton, Tim Brown to Marcus Ware And
you know, it sounds like I'm the biggest name, the
(29:32):
biggest name drop forever. But that's it's not the case
like that, Who was that? That? Who's out these parties?
You know, it's just like, but this is like this
little turgle amount right now, And I'm like, man if
it's just incredible. Jake lazer On guest here, all right, Jake,
before you let you go. Hey, the big news yesterday
it looked at Carson Wentz maybe back for week one.
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Quint Nelson also could be back for a week one,
which is absolutely huge news as well. Uh Is that
is that feeling realistic that hey, we can put our
eggs in that week one basket for him? Yeah? Absolutely,
Well it's you know, I think they have a five
better than shot. But even if he's not read one,
it's not gonna be far off of that. We two
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weeks three. That's why. Look, I said it on our
Hall of Fame. So even though they were saying that
it's five to twelve weeks. Was by the way, five
to twelve weeks. That's like saying like, oh, it can't
be you know, one to forty two years. Like it
was hilarious. It was great. I loved it. It was hilarious,
(30:36):
and everybody just kind of took it like, hey guys,
that's between one and three months, so you know, and
it kind of bought cards in time. But um, but
I also said that that they were they were looking
at just as kind of druy. They just took a
phone out and you go, It's not like they went
in there and served a bunch of screws and put
it plate in. That's not what happened. So they were
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always looking at it like you'd be on the earlier
part rather than later part. And when had happened, everybody
was like, oh my gosh, are they gonna go trade
for somebody? I mean all the people that were saying
they're gonna trade from Nick Foles Dad, he walked with
the Nick Foles you know situation here with Carson Palmer
paying it happen again or people like Cope with Philip
Riverersly to come out like and they never looked at
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it like that. They're like, they always looked at it like, Hey,
it's Carson hover along with them without him, without him,
But we didn't they didn't think it was gonna be
a long time. He's on Twitter at Jake Lazer. That's
at Jay Glazer, also the founder of m V team
Merging vets and Players. Hey check out his most recent
tweet as he takes you behind the scenes of the
photo shoot for the Sexiest Bald Man Live Award again
(31:43):
one by Jake Glazer. Jay, congratulations on that round away
with it, a round away with the ones once again.
That's what you call dynastic effort there, Jay, big buddy,
We'll talk to you a buddy, safe travels. That great
stuff there from Jake Glazer. Look, I I said it
last night. I was happy with hearing the time frame
on Carson Wentz. But but now if it's week one
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and week three at the latest, yeah, the cults are
going to be fine because maybe you find a way
if he's not there, you can split the first couple
of games you're one and one, you find a way
to win at ugly one like sixteen ten or thirteen nine,
something like that as long as that that's when he's
coming back, and then the calendar says September. Yeah, I'm fine.
I'm still sticking with Mike Colts to the a f
(32:25):
C Championship Game. Well, like I told you, as long
as the UH updates are the same for Quentin Nelson,
it's all good. And for anybody that wanted to talk
about Nick Foles, go back and actually watch what he
did with the Bears. I'm telling you he was terrible,
but he's a third He's your third string quarterback for
a reason. Man, Yeah you're still there? Why bring back Das?
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How do how? Why do I think at some point
Nick Foles is gonna wind up starting in September? You
know what? You go to Hell? Okay, you go and
joy Zach Wilson, Well yeah, yeah, Like dude, he's had
three good practices in a row man. Maybe he's actually
following this stuff. Shirk. Be sure to catch live editions
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of The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Steelers and the Eagles
just finished Pittsburgh wins at twenty four to sixteen. No
matter what you tell me, there is no way I'm
going to back away from Ben. Roethlisberger is finished, and
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at some point the Steeler is gonna realize that maybe
week nine, week ten, he can feel as fresh as
he wants to. Now it's the middle of August, everybody's great,
Come see me after week nine, like last year when
suddenly Roethlisberger couldn't throw the ball more than ten yards,
and it's not going to be a gentle good night
for Roethlisberger. Always just gonna stay corporate. No, the Steelers
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gonna say, dude, if you can't throw, we have to
go to somebody else. And that's why the big story
of this game is Dwayne Haskins, Mason Rudolph, who's gonna
win that job? And clearly tonight there's a big winner,
and that's Dwayne Haskins, who threw for a buck sixty
one and a touchdown. I mean, he's the guy they
brought him in to succeed Roethlisberger this year to say
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when Week nine comes and he can't throw, we are
not gonna go through what happened last year. We start
out eleven and oh and it's gonna be Super Bowl
and hopefield advantage, and suddenly Ben can't throw the ball anymore,
and the Steelers just absolutely spiraled from there, absolutely spiraled.
They're not gonna go through that again. They're not gonna
give Roethlisberger a big wave, a goodbye. Look look at
Eli Man and got bench in his final year with
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the Giants. So they brought Dwayne Haskins in as a curiosity,
as someone who they thought he will let's go back
to the guy he was when he came out of
the draft. It hasn't been that long for him, and
he's in a new system. We we we carry him
and and and treat him a little bit differently, and
hopefully he has matured because a lot of his wounds
in Washington were self inflicted, not realizing what it means
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to be a quarterback in the NFL. But make no mistake,
the Steelers brought him in specifically that he can succeed
roth Aisburger, and he can do it in the middle
of the season when Roethlisberger suddenly can't throw the football
because the steal. You know, every day they think we
were eleven and o last year, we were eleven and
oh eleven and oh we were eleven, and oh didn't
even make it to the conference championship game. We were eleven,
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and oh, that is not going to happen to us
this year. Dwayne Haskins watch Week nine, Week ten, He's
gonna be playing quarterback. I appreciate your your bold prediction.
I'm gonna say you're wrong for a couple of reasons. Uh,
number one you had do you want to talk about
the back end? At first? Off, mcadoo's still an idiot
all these years later for that move he could defend
until he's blew in the face. That was just a
(35:37):
jackass move. Finish it out. Your team was going nowhere.
Having Davis Webb as a an answer to a trivia
question in the Greater New York area doesn't endear you
too many. But I move on with Pittsburgh attrition on defense,
number of injuries down the stretch, as well as a crumbling,
disintegrating off times pathetic offensive line combined with no semblance
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of a run game left Ben Roethlisberg going one one
thousand hot route get rid of the ball. So I
don't know how much was arms strength, because that that's
the question. That's only he can answer, and he's not
gonna be a hundred percent truthful on it. Right, how
much was the off season surgery going into last year
and a big effect, uh having a big effect on
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his ability versus all right, this is just what the
offense can be based on these other crumbling building blocks
that we have here. So I think with a seventeen
game season, having a guy that you trust, and certainly
with the play tonight, I saw a report from Brooke Prior,
who covers the Steelers, uh that you know, all the
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coaches have been citing Hey game over practice in terms
of what they were able to do, and certainly Dwayne
Haskins moved the ball effectively led them to several scoring drives. Uh.
So he gets the w today which probably pushed is
him into the number two spot. And if he's any
semblance of the guy that was drafted in the first round,
and you can find that guy again, and the culture
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of the Steelers and the steely eyes of Mike Tomlin
is a place where whereby you might find that that
he'll he'll be at the ready and maybe you'll need to, uh,
I don't know, load manage Ben Roethlisberger for a game
or two. But I don't think borrowing injury. Uh, he
supplants him all together. But it's fun that we actually
have that discussion, that it can be on there, and
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that you're such a champion of Dwayne Haskins. It's happened, happening,
It's happened. Look, it's it's kind of one of those
well he seems like he's damaged goods, But we really
don't know where our next quarterback is gonna come from,
because unless we you finished with the number one pick,
it's not guaranteed you're gonna get the guy you want.
So yeah, let's go take a shot at Dwayne Haskins.
And and it's worked out so far, and he's looked good.
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He looked good tonight, and you think maybe a change
of scenery. Look, he's a curiosity, he's a it's it's
found money. Hey, you know what, Look we plan if
he's If he's good, great, we got somebody to go to.
If not, then we'll we'll find somebody else. Do they
really wanted Mason Rudolph to be the backup quarterback? That
would have just stuck with Mason Rudolph, They wouldn't have
gone to sign Dwayne Haskins. They are looking past Ben Roethlisberger.
And trust me, it's not next season. It's about what
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do we do when Roethlisberger can't do it and we
have to go to somebody that can put points on
the boards. We've done it with Mason Rudolph before and
we just couldn't score right. So now Haskins is someone
who has come in with a much better grade and pedigree,
and me, it's not too long from the beginning of
his career where we can teach him new and and
and get him back to being the quarterback that he
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was evaluated to be. That this is why, I mean,
this is how you do it. And if the if
the Steelers hadn't started outlet and finished last year the
way they did in Roethlisberger clearly just had nothing left,
then you know, maybe not for Dwayne Haskins, but this
is a huge sign saying, hey, if he's bad, we
got the guy. And this is Roethlisberger knowing, Hey, as
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much as I've done for this organization, if I'm bad,
He's gonna be the guy and I'm gonna have to
worry about holding onto my job and not finishing up
my NFL career on the sideline. You know, Week six
team with a big h. You know, we're playing at
home and I got a big scarf around my face
and no one can see just my eyes and I'm
holding my shoulder pads and I get that big tight
look in and now just go. This is Ben Roethlisberger's
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farewell game. You have to wonder if he's going to
actually get in and play today. But Dwayne Haskins has
been terrific since he's taken over sixteen touchdowns and four interceptions,
He's been fantastic. Dealers have won six in a row.
But maybe Roethlisberger takes in one more snap. All he's
meant to this organ. Oh my god, Quyn Haskins is
on the field. Yay Dwayne Hatskins. Great Dwyne Haskins. That's
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