January 28, 2022 • 43 mins
Jason and Mike talk about the Bears hiring Colts DC Matt Eberflus to be their head coach, Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer joins the show, and Big Ben Roethlisberger abruptly hangs ‘em up.
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You have a head coach, Yeah, hied God to fix
up as roster. Hell, he's got free agents at freewhere anyway. Yeah,
I'm working on the second verses. That's all right. I
I gotta say underwhelmed. Here's our shiny new quarterback who's
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gonna lead us. Oh, you're being nice about that. You're
being nice about That's it. I've gotta be nice because
everybody's all excited, like, oh, they're gonna reinstitute the peanut
punch or whatever else. It doesn't matter if you're losing.
Everybody to flipping free agency that can play anyway, that
doesn't matter. They got thirty free agents, twenty five unrestricted. Yeah,
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I know Andy Dalton is one of them. But the
point is you've got a bunch of guys you really
want to keep on both sides of the ball that
are probably saying goodbye, and some that kind of showed
you this year they were ready to say goodbye. So yeah, underwhelming, confusing, confounding,
and here we are with the curiosity of the Bears.
And once again I asked Aaron Rodgers, why the hell
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do you want to leave this division? Dude, you're being nice.
I don't get at all what that was all about.
And I mean I did my cursing off air. I
don't want to lose any FCC compliancy. I've got big
plans for this year and for the next couple of
years of my life. And throwing it all the way
over Eva fluess is a bad way to bed j
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with eber flues. Losses will arrive like butterflies see you
in how Yeah. No, it's like we've been We've been
capturing those butterflies for years in Chicago, and now we
added another guy who's like a bikini bottom, going and
running around with a net and never finds anything. There
you go, there's my nerd. If you all getting high,
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you're watching SpongeBob, you know it. Eber look of all
the big head coaching news today, right, Nathaniel hack It
becomes a head coach at Denver USO. Mike McCarthy's coming back,
Josh McDaniels is going to interview with the Raiders. The
Jaguars have all kinds of drama. Bill Brian might be
back in England. Dude, I just don't get this. You
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have a young franchise quarterback in a pressure packed market
and you hire a defensive coordinator. Yeah, okay, I mean
just think about this. The first time head coaches, when
they come from one side of the ball, what do
they do That's the side of the ball they concentrate on. Right,
That happened with every first time head coach. You bring
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a first timet coach who is a lights out defensive coordinator,
it's gonna take him a while to get the offensive
nuances of the game, and he's gonna rely on whoever
he hires as his o C to develop a quarterback.
You want, what's the most important thing you need to
do in Chicago developed justin fields or identify if he's
not the guy gets somebody else, and you go and
hire a defensive coordinator who's going to concentrate on the
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defensive side of the ball for the Bears, which is great,
but the most important thing is the quarterback. And this
market is ready to eat head coaches alive. I'd never
hire a first time head coach ever in Chicago because
I want someone that's been through the ringer, that understands, Okay,
now I'm in Chicago and things a little bit different
because guys just gets eat eating up, and chewed out.
The last few weeks of everybody's tenure is filled with
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you're getting fired. I know you're getting fired. Have you
heard you're getting fired? Everybody love e John Fox and
Matt Naggie. Everybody goes that, they get chewed up and
spit out. It is a really difficult place to coach.
And now you're gonna hire a guy that is not
expertly on the side of the ball. You need to
make sure a play is great, and he's a first
time head coaching. I don't understand this, I really don't.
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I I I get when you have to take a
chance sometimes a certain things. But this just doesn't make sense.
You needed a CEO type head coach that could come
in and I have the I have the entire program
under my watch, and I get and I'm gonna be
involved in all the parts. When he's just gonna come in,
he's gonna be the head coach of the defense. And
that's gonna be it. Now, who's who's coming in an offense?
Who's gonna be running things on offense? Now? What are you?
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What are you gonna do this? I I don't get
this at all. This. I watched the Bears and I go,
what are you doing? I mean, what are you doing? What?
What is? What is justin field saying you hired it?
You had the defensive coordinator of the Colts to be
the who's gonna who's gonna help me be a really
good quarterback in the NFL? Are you hiring that naggy
to be the O? C? Is he coming back? I
don't like it. Shut your mouth. You don't even try
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to put existence jerk. I don't. I don't get what
the Bears are doing all these it's I get get
the drama. I get the ridiculousness of how horrible they're
butchering things in Jacksonville. More than I get this, I
get it because jackson that's a mess. But man, I
really I I understand the mess there. I don't get
how this was. Oh, this is who we're gonna go get.
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This is our guy when you are just hiring people
now in this hiring phase of there's nobody that really
you go crazy for. There's nobody that's a slam dunkhead
coaching cat, Nobody we have to go get this guy
or this guy. It's just a bunch of people you're
hoping works, and this is what you wind up with
in Chicago. I really look, Matt even may wind up
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being a really good head coach at some point. He's
a really good defensive coordinator. But this is not what
the Bears need. This is this is not the side
of the ball the Bears need. They to see, Hey,
who's coming in. I got a great offensive mind and
I'm coming in and I know what to do with
justin fields. And this is how we're gonna make him
a star quarterback. Great, that's what you need to do.
And the Bears went in a complete and total opposite direction. Yeah,
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I mean you got a guy in and rhyme Poles
who comes in who's with a functional organization. Obviously they
they they had some turnover in the executive roles, but
Andy Reid still making it happen, and you see the
you know, the player development as it works. When when
you get to Eberflus, you've got a guy who's been
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in an organization, say which you want to buy? Jimmer say?
Uh gets a little after it on social media and
certainly has been pretty loud these last couple of weeks. Uh.
And obviously his transgressions we we know well. But the
point is generally wants football people and stays the hell
out of the way in terms of football moves until
the season is over, and then he blasts any decision
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they made uh and laments things that they did. But
you're coming from those organizations to Chicago where you don't
have football people at the top. Right. They brought in
Bill Pollian, which is why many would say this is
you know, eiber Flus is the clearly it's Poles guy
and that's where where that comes from. Right. So there's
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there's some disagreements and already more battling behind the scenes
because I think Bill Pollian thought he was gonna have
more juice. Uh, then he ended up having in some
of this process. You've got you know, Rod Marinelli who
coached in Chicago and all these other everybody's standing up
because that's the that's the thing that bothered me. I
said it with Poles. I say it here. Everybody that
wants to stand up and say how great to hire
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it is. If there's unanimity in that, I'm I got problems, Like,
I'm like, there's gotta be someone that disagrees out there
somewhere that has a differing opinion of how this is
going to flow. But now you're looking at you to know,
I I know, And we'll hear it all night long
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and we'll continue with the parodies. I don't care if
you've seen all the memes. I don't care if you've
heard parody songs. Folks want to say they created the
parody song. They can all beat it. Uh. You know,
this is about tackling, attacking the ball, all of those things.
And I can hear that till the blue in the face.
You know, it doesn't come together right. Going and commemorating
that team that got to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman.
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Is not the way you generally win playing football. The
ball doesn't always bounce your way your return guy in
your return game. Jackiem Grant, also pro bowler. He's a
free agent to Uh. They're not gonna run back six
or seven balls for touchdowns. That's not the way it works.
It's not the way it works in general, and certainly
not in two. Those are very rare and few and
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far between. So now it's all right, who do you
go and get? And there's all sorts of candidates. You
can look at Pet Hamilton's who was working with Justin Herbert,
Mike Kafka, you know, could get a shot. Northwestern kid,
uh st re a kid going back to the Chicago
Catholic League. You know he's been with Mahomes there since.
So maybe there's a fit. Right, Sorry, nicely done. I
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think everybody should go back and read that. I I
don't Gregor Mendel, you know, guy who was the big
Spider and then turns out he turns into a spider
and and then he winds up coaching the Bears. That's
a dumb beatle, but that's okay. Uh. You know Ken
Dorsey's name is out there, David Culley. I mean there
there's a lot of names that have now been thrown
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up against the proverbial wall. But it really your entire
existence relates to how you're getting and developing justin fields.
Unless you've already done the evaluation and said we're getting
through this year and then we're moving forward, right, Unless
that's the evaluation of him that you've already done, or
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you're giving this year a pass as you reconstitute your roster,
it really just flies in the face of of any
logic at all. So what you had Matt Naggy offensive coach,
younger guy, here's the pedigree, and everybody was excited. A
couple of playoff appearances, you know, me and Trabiskie. They
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got it done, whatever you say about it. But nobody
liked the offensive set. Many people laughed at the way
the offense was done. And you got rid of him.
So you go and get the younger, you know on
the relative scale, young defensive guy. That's that's your fix.
When you went all in to draft that quarterback. I
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just don't understand. It just doesn't well, it's it's bears
football is really I don't know why I'm getting worked
up about it. This is exactly what I expected to happen.
A guy that was shaking our heads and going, what
the hell? Mhm. I'll tell you, man, I I really,
I don't get it. I I don't get it. I
it's it's just gonna end like it was like it
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was like it's going like I know how it's going
to go. It's gonna be very difficult. Justin field is
gonna have trouble developing, and it's gonna be the last
eight games of the tenure of Eberflus is gonna be.
So we heard you're getting fired and and are you
getting fired? Are you We're just gonna repeat this in
like two years. We're just gonna beat. It's gonna rinse repeat,
rinse repeat, rince beat. What's gonna happen here? All the
other stuff I get. I disagree with some things, but
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I understand where other teams are going. This one I don't.
I mean, really, how do you not go to the
offensive side of the ball? How did not go to
eric the enemy? If you want to hire a first
time UH coach who comes in and that would walk
right in and players would gravitate towards him. All this,
all this talk about the enemy not getting a job.
When he finally gets one, what do you think the
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reaction is going to be by the players he's coaching,
by the team around him. They're gonna go to the
wall for him to make sure. Hey, this guy finally
gets a chance after all this time he's never gotten one. Hey,
I'm gonna bust my ass to make sure this guy succeeds.
And here's a guy that that coach Patrick Mahomes. Um,
he's gonna walk in and and I'm gonna say, yes,
whatever you say, I'm gonna do because yes, you got
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that offense going Mahomes everything else. I mean, if you're
gonna if you're gonna take a chance on a first
time guy, why not that? Why not that side of
the bull's Jackson Bill? They fire Bulky and they give
and from all reports Byron Left, which is their guy. Okay,
he's a players guy, right, trying to get him their bonuses.
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All makes sense, Eric b. Enemy, you've seen the success
and whatever amount of the pie you're deciding as you
divvy it up between mahomes athleticism and craziness and improvisational skills,
and Andy Reid. The enemy is still got a pretty
damn big piece of that pie in terms of building
this offense over the last several years. So not giving
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him a shot in this cycle when so many openings
are out there is just ludicrous to me. Twitter and
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Joining us now
on the hotline for all the latest news in the NFL.
Luckily we can fit him in now because we would
have to wait. We had to wait until Sean Payton
stopped talking, and he just stopped talking. Five minutes ago.
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So now we can say hi to Ja Glazer and
bring him in. J what's happening. No, No, he didn't.
Oh he's still going. He's still talking. He's still going.
He's still going. One of the greatest I was crushing too, became.
You know, he called you a fourhand and said, Hey,
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I think I want to do this Ted last O
all my dude, You're opening statement went up for an hour,
I said, and then you're Ted Lasso joke, which we
talked about before, and I said, you said, hey, I
love Netflix and Ted laughs of my show. It's not
on Netflix, it's not Apple TV. And we screwed that up.
You had all these months to prepare your speech. You
screwed it up. I'm my voice was a little shot
(15:22):
right now, as you can hear, and uh yeah, h man.
It's been a while, a couple of days here, but
that was the Sean thing has been going optional. Man.
He started talking to me about it about three months ago,
and it's been going on and on. And I don't
know if you guys remember, but what I was doing
my week the last week the season every year Fox,
(15:43):
I'll do my coaching carousel think and after I was
going through who was kind of who was done? I said,
and it's probably gonna be at least one more one
or two more openings, supplies opening where someone's gonna step
away because it's just been a rough you know, a
year too with COVID, and Sean is who I was
talking about. But I didn't say then because he's like, hey,
(16:06):
you know, we were originally gonna reported that Tuesday, he said,
but I'm gonna go talk to Mrs bensince he goes,
and so he tells Mrs Benson on Monday, and uh,
she said, well, Sean, what don't you take a few
days to really think about it. Let's take a few
days in excel basically, well, his version of taking a
few days in next selling is his buck got on
playing Tacabo and went down there and he was drunk
(16:27):
for the next two weeks. So it just seems to
step going back and forth, back and forth, and by
the time he got home, like, hey, I don't need
a break. Did you figure out how you want to
do it? Because you are all over the map on
this thing? Can he did? He did? He kept going
back and forth with a bunch of stuff. Yeah, I
gotta imagine that that last couple of years. And you know,
having Kevin James doing a movie of your life, I
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mean he can slide right in. I guess now, oh
you killed me. Sean probably wishes, man, I wish we
did this movie the next year, so I couldn't start it.
So is it gonna be TV for him? Is it
a one year thing? Is it more than that? What
is it? Well? But the reason I want to report
because he kept going back and forth. So what I
(17:12):
want to do this? Am I leaving the Saints of
my return from everything? Am I just retiring from here?
Do I want to achieve it? Like? It went on
and on and I and you guys know that. You
know I have several therapist that I talked to all
the time. Well, I gotta get him to have another
therapist beside me. It just kept going on and it
was it was definitely a wronging therapy session. But now
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it was like you gotta remember too. And this is
what I'm very sensitive to with situations like this, And
because I have a charity with this, with with merk
investing players, when somebody wants to step away, he's this
is the first time he's gonna be on football since
he was ten years old to fifty six or fifty seven, Like,
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he has not been away from football a part of
the team since he was ten. Think about that, and
that's what I think he was really wrestling with luck
and they all do. They all do? They all wrestling
it like man stepping away from something you've done that
long and not having your team. A lot of these
guys like look, John Lyns went back and trying to
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be and well become a very successful general manager, but
decided to go do that because even though he's around
it with television, he's only around in the reeken. He
needs that team. And you know a lot of these
guys between their ears, they need that and that that's
what we provide an MVP. We provide you with a
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new team for when the uniform comes off. So I
know it's the close fraternity of thirty two. How much
is their salary cap situation going to impact the coaching
search and those that are looking at them versus other jobs?
Not really, I mean, it's just so much that goes
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into it. It's do they have a quarterback? Do they
have a good owner. But listen all the time too,
It's a lot of times when when people jobs there
have a culture of losing. So you know, these guys
all come in, they all change it. I'll change the
culture talking about and you gotta have that kind of
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ego if you're gonna be a successful coach. Sure, Jake
Glazer with us, the Jason Spitzer with Mike Harmon Live
and the Fox Sports Radio studios all right, j Elsewhere
in the coaching carousel, we saw real click click close
for that to go back to that point and to
tie Sean Payton. When Sean Payton went out of the stage,
it was probably the most undesirable job in league history.
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And what I mean is they just came off from
Katrina where they weren't even at home, but they were displaced.
Fans are wearing bags on their heads. They didn't have
a quarterback bring them there yet, right, So, man, it
wasn't his culture and they it was it was it
was they were displaced, and yet Sean, we'll go down there,
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we'll change it. So you know what I mean, he
didn't look at it it's like, oh my god, there's
so much until battle. Instead he looked at it like
I get to change this place. I think most coaches
going with that same mindset, no matter what the obstacles, thinking,
I get to go change this place. J Blaze with
us here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, So with
(20:31):
with with Sean now waiting to see what happens, and
clearly you know, look, he's gonna be linked to the
Cowboys every day for the next three uh. With the
Broncos getting Nathaniel Hackett coming over from Green Bay, it's
connect the dots, Aaron Rodgers to the Broncos. Is it
that simple? Is it much more complicated? What? What do
you what do you think about this? Yeah? You guys
asked me, well earlier week, said yeah, I think it
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will be, you know, go to another team. And then
I started talking to more and more people of colose
to Aaron. I started thinking, I'm not so sure anymore.
You know. So I was pretty sore earlier the week,
and now I'm not for sure. And it's and it's him,
it's whether or not Aaron loves to go, you know,
so you know he makes sense decision, um, but I'm
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not like I was pretty damn sure all year long
and now I'm not. I'm sure now what I'm what?
I am sure? That I can never figure out Eric Rodgers.
You know, you know, um, you know, he's just a
different test. So I won't act like, oh, I know
all the answers you're with him, because, like Sean, even
if you said something, he may okay something else you
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may have you know, working, which he's a smart jest. Yeah,
I would. I would just offer him a one page spreadsheet.
UH Minnesota fifty two per cent since he's been there
starting quarterback in Chicago forty seven. That's thirty thirty six
for Detroit. That's the winning percentages overall, he's won seventy
percent of his games against those three teams. Yep, no
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doubt it. She'll be like, Okay, what do you want? Okay,
you got it. We're good. Because when you don't have
a quarterback man, life sucks in the NFL. That is
the boncher to go by in in UH and the
Bears seem to have their quarterback or at least in
theory j but they hire Eberflus out of Indianapolis, and
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everybody in Chicago trying to make heads or tails of it.
When you've got the young quarterback but you go in
is helping heat up the search. So of course you're
gonna have UM. But I gotta tell you the GM
over there rhyme pulse, well, like, I think the dude
is a strong, solid like man. He he was in
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life for some jobs. Last year he's been ready. He is.
He noted for a player's point of view, you know,
a salary cap. He goes from a personnel standpoint. Um,
and he's not a climber. That's where I'm like, you
haven't been one of the guys who are trying to
get their names out there and pick to move up
his you know, his name started going because he's good
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at what he does. You can fom on Twitter at
Jay Glazer, that is at Jake Glazer and Jay. Before
we let you go, I gotta ask you this ge,
all the interviews you've been doing talking about the book
Unbreakable that is out right now, pick it up, Jay Glazer,
this book is absolutely unbelievable. I want to go back
to what Tiki Barber tweeted about you earlier today, saying, Hey,
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over the years he slept on my couch. I taught
him how to change diapers. Dude, Jay, whose couch didn't
you sleep on? Straight hand? Tikey B I mean, how
many guys are gonna say, oh yeah, Jay slept on
my couch over the years too. So here's what y'all
don't know. And everybody out there you hear excuse me
on Fox in the old Sunday, Well, you don't know
when you'll find out the book. It's the first ten
of eleven years of my career. I made nine thousand
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some of the hundred a year as it, And I said,
I'm an outwork the world. So it's not like I
worked two hours a week at sports reporting and then
another forty hours like waitering, apart, telling or bouncing or
something to make friends meet. I was making nineties seven
hundred bucks a year working ninety hours at this job.
So yeah, I didn't know where I was paying my
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rent for all those leaders. So I was sleeping on
touches and I was bumming on some straight in and man,
I still don't We still joke about like how did
you pay your pills? I'm like, well, I know I
didn't sell drugs. I know I want to break it,
So I don't know. I really don't know. But also
the reason why stryand and are so close at one point, Hey,
so so bad for me. He's like, dude, and I
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was like, behind my rent. He's like, let me just
pay your rent. I said, don't, dude, don't you ever
offer to give me money ever. I got this, I
will do it. It will be there. So for me
with my friend, give their score with my friend. But
don't you ever offer me money ever again. And that
was okay. There was you realize now I'm here for
your your friendship. I'm not here for anything else. And man,
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I'm a loyalty guy. I'll tell you what else. For
nine of them, it happened. I was living down um
that's the fifty nine three pards and by the u
N And I didn't know where to go because we
didn't know what was happening. And so I actually ran
uptown to Tiki's place because Tiki was um away from
any landmark. So yeah, these guys, man, they've seen me
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since my struggle um and and I was with Tich
on a driving range at Randols. Now much it's been
ten years. And had a full time job ninety seven
into bucks a year in my agent and man, my, my, my, my,
my trusted during the planet Marie God's friend told me.
He said, where you have. I said, I'm gonna driving
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range Tiki, I'm rambles behind. He said, okay, you get
a sale. He said, we finally got you a full
time job. I said what. He so, we finally got
CBS Sports. We got the NFL today on cb answers
the second year back. I said, I'll take it. He said,
don't you wonder how much before? I said, I don't care?
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Like validated me that when I said a long time ago,
i will outworked the world to make my dreams come true.
And it took ten eleven years being rejected every single
freaking week in my life. But a guy like me
with mental health and self esteem issues to get rejected
that much. It's just validated me when I said I'll
be the last dude standing in the earth, and she
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was like, man like, that was my moment. It's always
few times of life when you find out who you are,
and that was one of them. And for eleven years,
I could have quit, and whoever said it quiting is
not an option is cone depth because it's shit's on
your shoulder every second of every day. I said, I
ain't gonna quit. I'm gona I work these guys and
told my dreams come true and said, well, fifty grand
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of year. I said, thank you, my best friend, Gonald,
my day and Leaven and I went and I went
and picked my my copy up today and I had
another book with me, and the guy asked me, Okay,
I go. This is part of my journey and the
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apply well all the coaching news in the NFL today.
And this is exactly I gotta say. It's not a
bowl prediction I made. It's kind of a bowl prediction
I made with myself, is that I knew when this
story was gonna break, it was gonna break exactly like
it did, and it was gonna be awkward, and this
story was gonna disappear really fast. Even though it's about
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a retirement of a quarterback that's won two Super Bowls
and is headed to the Hall of Fame. Ben Roethlisberger
retired from the NFL earlier today. Put out a statement
on a social media page and this is how he
did it. And he put out a statement and he
talked about the thanks he has for the Steelers, the fans,
the organization as he waves goodbye to the NFL after
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eighteen years. I don't know how to put into words
what the game of football has meant to me and
what a blessing it has been. Well, I know with
confidence I have given my all to the game. I
am overwhelmed with gratitude for all it has given me.
A boy from Finnly, Ohio with NFL dreams, developed an
Oxford at Miami University, blessed with the honor of eighteen
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seasons as a Pittsburgh Stealer, and a place to call home.
The journey has been exhilarating to fined by relationships and
fueled by a spirit of competition. Yet the time has
come to clean up my locker, hang up my cleats,
and continue to be all I can be to my
wife and children. I retire from football a truly grateful man.
To the Rooney family, the Tall family, Coach Tomlin, Coach Kauer,
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and all the coaches who have poured into me. The
incredible people on every level that make the Pittsburgh Steelers
a special organization. Thank you for believing in me and
allowing me to battle with you in pursuit of excellence.
To all of my teammates and the endless friendships that
I have gained, I appreciate you and our shared commitment
to wearing the black and goal with pride and dignity.
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Putting that jersey on every Sunday with my brothers will
always be one of the greatest joys of my life.
To steal your nation, the best fans in all of sport.
Thank you for accepting and supporting me as your quarterback
over the years. Football has been a gift, and I
thank God for allowing me to play it all. Right. Wait,
first things first, Wait, go back and play a little
bit at it because I want, you know, I think
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I want to buy a Ford truck. After listening to
the music that was in the background of Roethlisberger truck man,
just play it again. Coach Kaer and all the coaches
who have poured into me power under the hood. That's
what I dr eve. Oh my goodness, what do we
(32:21):
got from? And we got inspirational car truck music? Yeah,
we got that. Great. Let's take it and let's use
it on this um. You notice how you referenced the
Toll family that was not Jethro Toll, the guys that
from legendary pictures that owned part of the team and
gave us Batman and made heinz wards super fast. Uh done?
(32:42):
On on on, Hey, he's the smartest there is. Okay,
you show respect. Hang on, hang on, I gotta concentrate
for the next few minutes. Let me get off Ford
dot com. Hang on, all right. Look, the relationship Ben
Roethlisberger has with the Steelers is one that can best
be described as mutually beneficial. Okay, they're not upset he's gone,
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and many people are an upset that Ben Roethlisberger has retired.
Look how awkward today was. This is a guy again,
eighteen years in the NFL, two Super Bowls, is going
to the Hall of Fame, is retiring in the top
ten all time in many quarterback categories, and he barely
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was on the front page of ESPN dot com with
breaking news Ben Roethlisberger retires, and an hour after he retired,
it was gone, and it was other things. On the
front page. It was Bears higher eber Flews. No teammates
went crazy saying things about him. The Steelers didn't have
some kind of announcement planned, some joint announcement made with
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Ben Roethlisberger. This was Roethlisberger putting out a message by himself.
Because Roethlisberger has always been at arms length from the
team and from most fans. It's hard for me to
talk about Roethlisberger after two sexual assault cases. It's hard.
I only wanted to talk about him in in the
in the when it was merited, which was it's a
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football game, it's a big game, and we're talking about it,
and we talk about him, right I gotta. I want
to talk about him without passion or prejudice. He's a
guy in the NFL, right that that. You know, I'm
not thrilled with with with how everything went on with
his career and what happened. So this is how I
felt about it. I want to talk about him without
passionate prejudice, and I know I'm not alone, all right,
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and after today he's just gonna sort of disappear and
you're just not going to hear from him again, right,
Because how many teammates do you know can't stand him
for all the different um things he has had during
his career, throwing him under the bus during interviews and
times with the press. How many of them don't like him?
Many we already know, we already know. There there's no
pageantry for him retiring. There's nothing from the Steelers. There
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was no nothing else. Today you have some you had
some guys on social media saying thanks Ben, with a
picture of them hugging him. The Steelers put out a
message on social media that just said thanks Ben. Great
and now Ben Roethlisberger's gone, all right. His relationship was
just mutually beneficial. And because of what happened both off
the field with the two different sexual assault cases, uh
(35:13):
and and because of what it was like on the field,
because Roethlisberger, you know, his teammates, he had a difficult
time getting along with them. You're not gonna get a
lot of guys you're gonna stand up saying, oh my goodness,
Ben Roethlisberger, And it permeates everywhere, right, it was barely
How much was Roethlisberger's retirement covered today in the media.
There's more stuff on Nathaniel hack It. People don't know
who the hell of the guy is. Yeah, it's a
(35:34):
bigger deal because he was a Really it's a forward
looking statement when it comes to hack It. This do
you think when we presumed this FIRS never think Tom
Brady's retirement is gonna be like, yeah, statement and that's it.
I mean Benlisberger, He's not Brady, But this guy's going
to the Hall of Fame. Right, one of the best
quarterbacks we've seen eighteen years, two super Bowls, He's going
to the Hall of Fame's hey, he's retired, and now
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we're moving on to other things. He's difficult to talk about.
He doesn't have the the the doesn't get the hug
that most great leaders and great quarterbacks and guys who
retire get either from the media, from teammates, from fans.
It's just awkward. And this is gonna be the last
time we talked about. He's not going to be an
active alum for this dealer. They're not gonna bring him
back to big nights when they're Hey, look, at that. Well,
(36:16):
I'll look at the James Farrier's here, Oh, James Harrison
is here. Look at Iron's wardens here. Ben Roethlisberg. No,
it's not happening. I mean, I think it's as much
as that he's gonna disappear and I and I don't know,
but I don't know how much he's gonna want to
be in the spotlight, right, He's always been pretty quiet. Hell,
other than blocking folks, you know, other whoever was running
his social media. It's not like he was active on
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social media, which is what made this announcement a little
different and made it white, made it awkward. He's not
on social media and he puts the announcement out on
social media. I look, I I I get that. Maybe
he's he's going to be a different kind of guy
in retirement. This is someone who we always knew when
he was hurt, he wanted us to know know what
he was. He crafted his ine of what he wanted
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out there really carefully for the last fifteen years, and
even most guys guys do he wanted out there, right,
But it was no other quarterback we knew was playing
with injuries, but we knew every single injury. Ben Roethlisberger
was playing with Why why do we know this? Why
was Mike Tomlin always so upset when someone would ask
a question at Press Covererence, Hey, so Ben's elbow? Is
he gonna be well enough to play this week? How
did you find out about that? I can't believe this. Look.
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That's kind of who Roethlisberger was, and and it's why
it makes it makes him difficult, at least for me.
He's difficult to talk about. Certain athletes are just tough
to talk about. And and from the from the perspective
that that we have of what happened off the field
versus where he's at when on the field. Everywhere you
look today it seemed awkward. There was there was no Hey,
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we have two hours of Ben Roethlisberger retiring coverage where
it's gonna be wall to wall when Tom Brady retired,
Tom Brady, Joseph Wilson retaining and playing well. Russell Wilson
will see. But certainly for Tom Brady, I mean, you're
talking about record breaking, you're talking about influence, interesting lifestyle stuff.
Giselle bunching a guy who's winning into his forties, which
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takes out a whole different thing than just, hey, this
guy's winning football games. Ben Roethlisberger. We've been waiting on
the retirement announcement for two years, right, even with the
touchdown interception ratio a year ago. Uh, you could see
the shot chart, for lack of a better term, uh,
to put it in NBA parlance, you know, it was
getting shorter, and it was a lot of yak. And
this year was even worse when it came to that.
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So it wasn't a question of, you know, was he
gonna retire. It was like, all right, eventually it's gonna
pop out when you've got a punt bunch of other
news being made. Steelers will, no doubt at all, given
the franchise they are, they'll celebrate him at the proper time,
and he'll have his big nights and they'll put the
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jersey up and all that other stuff, you know. As
related to the assault charges two thousand and eight, two
thousand ten, yeah, two is different, and it would have
been covered differently and maybe come to a different end, right,
lack of evidence in the case. Uh, And then this,
the other case was settled in twelve and so now
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it's it's the question of you know, what, what more
do you do with it? You know, do you do
you take it at its face value? You know, family
and that he's a change guy. You know, do you
guys get it? Does he get a chance to grow
out of that? And and that that's for each individual
to take two And for the most part, I mean
with most of these guys, we're not we're not diving
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deep into their personal lives unless we're gonna do an
interview with him, right otherwise, you know, or they're getting
in trouble. So if you and I had been on
air sure in two thousand and eight, two thousand ten,
that would have been front frontline stuff. But again, you
know it, it went the path it did. And you
wonder if police departments, the NFL, and everybody else would
(39:54):
look at it differently. Here, right, did have a suspension
that popped in you know, the one guy that did
pop and you you did talk about Tom Brady repeatedly.
Quote Ben defied the TB twelve method in favor of
the quote throw some ice on it method. His whole
career ended up with an all time great six Pro Bowls,
two Super Bowls. There's more than one way to bake
(40:14):
a cake. So it goes back to the j Glazer
uh thing that he told us years ago. Yeah, Ben
doesn't train like everybody else. He was trying to be better.
But yeah, it certainly is it. It's a it's a
different you know there, everybody's complicated and this, right Aaron
Rodgers was pretty simple until about a year ago. He doesn't. Look.
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I get what you're saying about about Roethlisberger and and
and and everything you said, but just think about this
for a second. I just think about this. In the
next few days, We're not gonna get any stories from
Roethlisberger's former teammates about what a great leader he was.
And let me tell you this great story about Ben
and what he did here. We know because we haven't
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gotten any of those stories up until now. Nobody tell
They tell those stories about Brady and Russell Wilson and
Cam Newton and everything, but there's been none about that.
There was no celebration for Roethlisberger and his career following
his last home game in Pittsburgh. Did the Steelers have
anything planned for him after the game. No, it was
just I want to sit on the bench and I'm
gonna go thank the fans and I'm gonna go be
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on the on the set with the guys after the
game is over. And that said, there was nothing else.
There's a when when when Mike Tomlin and other players
are asked about Roethlisberger, they give an answer and they
move on. And that's kind of what that's kind of
what it's. It's not a bad answer. Is his boy?
What can you say about Ben? Look at what he's
done throughout his career. That that's what Mike Tomlin said.
This was about mutually beneficial relationship with him, the team,
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and his teammates. And he won, and he was a
really good quarterback and he was able to make plays
and had a very unique style. Where as big as
he was, he was able to stay elusive in the
pocket and make plays down the field and see the
field really really well. Everything on the football field, yes,
but everything else. This is why you're gonna see his
story and right now, and it's not gonna have any
(42:01):
legs to it and is not gonna be a podcast
telling the story about Roethlisberger did this once. The only
stories are gonna come out are gonna be hey, you
know what Roethlisberger did to me? One time. Those are
the stories you're gonna get now that he's retired. You
know what he did to me? You know, that's what
you're gonna get because that that that's that's where this
story goes from here with Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, I'm curious.
I gotta imagine there's someone in the building that liked him,
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didn't he somewhere? I think they like that they won,
that he was winning help cure cure a lot of things. Sure,
I mean that's that that that that's what I mean.
I just want to hear more. No, I don't. I
was gonna say. I want to hear more from Levian
Bell and Antonio Brown. Alright, a Tonio Brown, dude. He
was on one of the morning shows this morning talking
(42:44):
about and it's like, why that story's done until he's
signed to another team. Yeah, because he's he's Antonio Brown.
What's he gonna say? I don't know. Put him on
and put a microphone in front of him. You never
know what's gonna happen. You have no idea. Yeah, that's
that's the fear factor of live television radio. Keep that
dump button like it's uh, you know you're playing press
(43:04):
your luck, just a just a really awkward day all
around for Roethlisberger. And it's it's because of everything that's
gone on his career and the image he has and
the reputation he has with the Steelers and with his teammates,
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You have a head coach, Yeah, hied God to fix
up as roster. Hell, he's got free agents at freewhere anyway. Yeah,
I'm working on the second verses. That's all right. I
I gotta say underwhelmed. Here's our shiny new quarterback who's
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gonna lead us. Oh, you're being nice about that. You're
being nice about That's it. I've gotta be nice because
everybody's all excited, like, oh, they're gonna reinstitute the peanut
punch or whatever else. It doesn't matter if you're losing.
Everybody to flipping free agency that can play anyway, that
doesn't matter. They got thirty free agents, twenty five unrestricted. Yeah,
(01:33):
I know Andy Dalton is one of them. But the
point is you've got a bunch of guys you really
want to keep on both sides of the ball that
are probably saying goodbye, and some that kind of showed
you this year they were ready to say goodbye. So yeah, underwhelming, confusing, confounding,
and here we are with the curiosity of the Bears.
And once again I asked Aaron Rodgers, why the hell
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do you want to leave this division? Dude, you're being nice.
I don't get at all what that was all about.
And I mean I did my cursing off air. I
don't want to lose any FCC compliancy. I've got big
plans for this year and for the next couple of
years of my life. And throwing it all the way
over Eva fluess is a bad way to bed j
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with eber flues. Losses will arrive like butterflies see you
in how Yeah. No, it's like we've been We've been
capturing those butterflies for years in Chicago, and now we
added another guy who's like a bikini bottom, going and
running around with a net and never finds anything. There
you go, there's my nerd. If you all getting high,
(02:40):
you're watching SpongeBob, you know it. Eber look of all
the big head coaching news today, right, Nathaniel hack It
becomes a head coach at Denver USO. Mike McCarthy's coming back,
Josh McDaniels is going to interview with the Raiders. The
Jaguars have all kinds of drama. Bill Brian might be
back in England. Dude, I just don't get this. You
(03:01):
have a young franchise quarterback in a pressure packed market
and you hire a defensive coordinator. Yeah, okay, I mean
just think about this. The first time head coaches, when
they come from one side of the ball, what do
they do That's the side of the ball they concentrate on. Right,
That happened with every first time head coach. You bring
(03:22):
a first timet coach who is a lights out defensive coordinator,
it's gonna take him a while to get the offensive
nuances of the game, and he's gonna rely on whoever
he hires as his o C to develop a quarterback.
You want, what's the most important thing you need to
do in Chicago developed justin fields or identify if he's
not the guy gets somebody else, and you go and
hire a defensive coordinator who's going to concentrate on the
(03:44):
defensive side of the ball for the Bears, which is great,
but the most important thing is the quarterback. And this
market is ready to eat head coaches alive. I'd never
hire a first time head coach ever in Chicago because
I want someone that's been through the ringer, that understands, Okay,
now I'm in Chicago and things a little bit different
because guys just gets eat eating up, and chewed out.
The last few weeks of everybody's tenure is filled with
(04:05):
you're getting fired. I know you're getting fired. Have you
heard you're getting fired? Everybody love e John Fox and
Matt Naggie. Everybody goes that, they get chewed up and
spit out. It is a really difficult place to coach.
And now you're gonna hire a guy that is not
expertly on the side of the ball. You need to
make sure a play is great, and he's a first
time head coaching. I don't understand this, I really don't.
(04:28):
I I I get when you have to take a
chance sometimes a certain things. But this just doesn't make sense.
You needed a CEO type head coach that could come
in and I have the I have the entire program
under my watch, and I get and I'm gonna be
involved in all the parts. When he's just gonna come in,
he's gonna be the head coach of the defense. And
that's gonna be it. Now, who's who's coming in an offense?
Who's gonna be running things on offense? Now? What are you?
(04:48):
What are you gonna do this? I I don't get
this at all. This. I watched the Bears and I go,
what are you doing? I mean, what are you doing? What?
What is? What is justin field saying you hired it?
You had the defensive coordinator of the Colts to be
the who's gonna who's gonna help me be a really
good quarterback in the NFL? Are you hiring that naggy
to be the O? C? Is he coming back? I
don't like it. Shut your mouth. You don't even try
(05:09):
to put existence jerk. I don't. I don't get what
the Bears are doing all these it's I get get
the drama. I get the ridiculousness of how horrible they're
butchering things in Jacksonville. More than I get this, I
get it because jackson that's a mess. But man, I
really I I understand the mess there. I don't get
how this was. Oh, this is who we're gonna go get.
(05:30):
This is our guy when you are just hiring people
now in this hiring phase of there's nobody that really
you go crazy for. There's nobody that's a slam dunkhead
coaching cat, Nobody we have to go get this guy
or this guy. It's just a bunch of people you're
hoping works, and this is what you wind up with
in Chicago. I really look, Matt even may wind up
(05:50):
being a really good head coach at some point. He's
a really good defensive coordinator. But this is not what
the Bears need. This is this is not the side
of the ball the Bears need. They to see, Hey,
who's coming in. I got a great offensive mind and
I'm coming in and I know what to do with
justin fields. And this is how we're gonna make him
a star quarterback. Great, that's what you need to do.
And the Bears went in a complete and total opposite direction. Yeah,
(06:11):
I mean you got a guy in and rhyme Poles
who comes in who's with a functional organization. Obviously they
they they had some turnover in the executive roles, but
Andy Reid still making it happen, and you see the
you know, the player development as it works. When when
you get to Eberflus, you've got a guy who's been
(06:33):
in an organization, say which you want to buy? Jimmer say?
Uh gets a little after it on social media and
certainly has been pretty loud these last couple of weeks. Uh.
And obviously his transgressions we we know well. But the
point is generally wants football people and stays the hell
out of the way in terms of football moves until
the season is over, and then he blasts any decision
(06:54):
they made uh and laments things that they did. But
you're coming from those organizations to Chicago where you don't
have football people at the top. Right. They brought in
Bill Pollian, which is why many would say this is
you know, eiber Flus is the clearly it's Poles guy
and that's where where that comes from. Right. So there's
(07:17):
there's some disagreements and already more battling behind the scenes
because I think Bill Pollian thought he was gonna have
more juice. Uh, then he ended up having in some
of this process. You've got you know, Rod Marinelli who
coached in Chicago and all these other everybody's standing up
because that's the that's the thing that bothered me. I
said it with Poles. I say it here. Everybody that
wants to stand up and say how great to hire
(07:38):
it is. If there's unanimity in that, I'm I got problems, Like,
I'm like, there's gotta be someone that disagrees out there
somewhere that has a differing opinion of how this is
going to flow. But now you're looking at you to know,
I I know, And we'll hear it all night long
(08:00):
and we'll continue with the parodies. I don't care if
you've seen all the memes. I don't care if you've
heard parody songs. Folks want to say they created the
parody song. They can all beat it. Uh. You know,
this is about tackling, attacking the ball, all of those things.
And I can hear that till the blue in the face.
You know, it doesn't come together right. Going and commemorating
that team that got to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman.
(08:24):
Is not the way you generally win playing football. The
ball doesn't always bounce your way your return guy in
your return game. Jackiem Grant, also pro bowler. He's a
free agent to Uh. They're not gonna run back six
or seven balls for touchdowns. That's not the way it works.
It's not the way it works in general, and certainly
not in two. Those are very rare and few and
(08:46):
far between. So now it's all right, who do you
go and get? And there's all sorts of candidates. You
can look at Pet Hamilton's who was working with Justin Herbert,
Mike Kafka, you know, could get a shot. Northwestern kid,
uh st re a kid going back to the Chicago
Catholic League. You know he's been with Mahomes there since.
So maybe there's a fit. Right, Sorry, nicely done. I
(09:12):
think everybody should go back and read that. I I
don't Gregor Mendel, you know, guy who was the big
Spider and then turns out he turns into a spider
and and then he winds up coaching the Bears. That's
a dumb beatle, but that's okay. Uh. You know Ken
Dorsey's name is out there, David Culley. I mean there
there's a lot of names that have now been thrown
(09:33):
up against the proverbial wall. But it really your entire
existence relates to how you're getting and developing justin fields.
Unless you've already done the evaluation and said we're getting
through this year and then we're moving forward, right, Unless
that's the evaluation of him that you've already done, or
(09:53):
you're giving this year a pass as you reconstitute your roster,
it really just flies in the face of of any
logic at all. So what you had Matt Naggy offensive coach,
younger guy, here's the pedigree, and everybody was excited. A
couple of playoff appearances, you know, me and Trabiskie. They
(10:14):
got it done, whatever you say about it. But nobody
liked the offensive set. Many people laughed at the way
the offense was done. And you got rid of him.
So you go and get the younger, you know on
the relative scale, young defensive guy. That's that's your fix.
When you went all in to draft that quarterback. I
(10:35):
just don't understand. It just doesn't well, it's it's bears
football is really I don't know why I'm getting worked
up about it. This is exactly what I expected to happen.
A guy that was shaking our heads and going, what
the hell? Mhm. I'll tell you, man, I I really,
I don't get it. I I don't get it. I
it's it's just gonna end like it was like it
(10:58):
was like it's going like I know how it's going
to go. It's gonna be very difficult. Justin field is
gonna have trouble developing, and it's gonna be the last
eight games of the tenure of Eberflus is gonna be.
So we heard you're getting fired and and are you
getting fired? Are you We're just gonna repeat this in
like two years. We're just gonna beat. It's gonna rinse repeat,
rinse repeat, rince beat. What's gonna happen here? All the
other stuff I get. I disagree with some things, but
(11:20):
I understand where other teams are going. This one I don't.
I mean, really, how do you not go to the
offensive side of the ball? How did not go to
eric the enemy? If you want to hire a first
time UH coach who comes in and that would walk
right in and players would gravitate towards him. All this,
all this talk about the enemy not getting a job.
When he finally gets one, what do you think the
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reaction is going to be by the players he's coaching,
by the team around him. They're gonna go to the
wall for him to make sure. Hey, this guy finally
gets a chance after all this time he's never gotten one. Hey,
I'm gonna bust my ass to make sure this guy succeeds.
And here's a guy that that coach Patrick Mahomes. Um,
he's gonna walk in and and I'm gonna say, yes,
whatever you say, I'm gonna do because yes, you got
(12:01):
that offense going Mahomes everything else. I mean, if you're
gonna if you're gonna take a chance on a first
time guy, why not that? Why not that side of
the bull's Jackson Bill? They fire Bulky and they give
and from all reports Byron Left, which is their guy. Okay,
he's a players guy, right, trying to get him their bonuses.
(12:22):
All makes sense, Eric b. Enemy, you've seen the success
and whatever amount of the pie you're deciding as you
divvy it up between mahomes athleticism and craziness and improvisational skills,
and Andy Reid. The enemy is still got a pretty
damn big piece of that pie in terms of building
this offense over the last several years. So not giving
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him a shot in this cycle when so many openings
are out there is just ludicrous to me. Twitter and
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on the big NFL head coaching moves ahead of the
Championship weekend. Always a great visit with Jay. Keep it
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(14:15):
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays
at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Joining us now
on the hotline for all the latest news in the NFL.
Luckily we can fit him in now because we would
have to wait. We had to wait until Sean Payton
stopped talking, and he just stopped talking. Five minutes ago.
(14:37):
So now we can say hi to Ja Glazer and
bring him in. J what's happening. No, No, he didn't.
Oh he's still going. He's still talking. He's still going.
He's still going. One of the greatest I was crushing too, became.
You know, he called you a fourhand and said, Hey,
(14:57):
I think I want to do this Ted last O
all my dude, You're opening statement went up for an hour,
I said, and then you're Ted Lasso joke, which we
talked about before, and I said, you said, hey, I
love Netflix and Ted laughs of my show. It's not
on Netflix, it's not Apple TV. And we screwed that up.
You had all these months to prepare your speech. You
screwed it up. I'm my voice was a little shot
(15:22):
right now, as you can hear, and uh yeah, h man.
It's been a while, a couple of days here, but
that was the Sean thing has been going optional. Man.
He started talking to me about it about three months ago,
and it's been going on and on. And I don't
know if you guys remember, but what I was doing
my week the last week the season every year Fox,
(15:43):
I'll do my coaching carousel think and after I was
going through who was kind of who was done? I said,
and it's probably gonna be at least one more one
or two more openings, supplies opening where someone's gonna step
away because it's just been a rough you know, a
year too with COVID, and Sean is who I was
talking about. But I didn't say then because he's like, hey,
(16:06):
you know, we were originally gonna reported that Tuesday, he said,
but I'm gonna go talk to Mrs bensince he goes,
and so he tells Mrs Benson on Monday, and uh,
she said, well, Sean, what don't you take a few
days to really think about it. Let's take a few
days in excel basically, well, his version of taking a
few days in next selling is his buck got on
playing Tacabo and went down there and he was drunk
(16:27):
for the next two weeks. So it just seems to
step going back and forth, back and forth, and by
the time he got home, like, hey, I don't need
a break. Did you figure out how you want to
do it? Because you are all over the map on
this thing? Can he did? He did? He kept going
back and forth with a bunch of stuff. Yeah, I
gotta imagine that that last couple of years. And you know,
having Kevin James doing a movie of your life, I
(16:49):
mean he can slide right in. I guess now, oh
you killed me. Sean probably wishes, man, I wish we
did this movie the next year, so I couldn't start it.
So is it gonna be TV for him? Is it
a one year thing? Is it more than that? What
is it? Well? But the reason I want to report
because he kept going back and forth. So what I
(17:12):
want to do this? Am I leaving the Saints of
my return from everything? Am I just retiring from here?
Do I want to achieve it? Like? It went on
and on and I and you guys know that. You
know I have several therapist that I talked to all
the time. Well, I gotta get him to have another
therapist beside me. It just kept going on and it
was it was definitely a wronging therapy session. But now
(17:34):
it was like you gotta remember too. And this is
what I'm very sensitive to with situations like this, And
because I have a charity with this, with with merk
investing players, when somebody wants to step away, he's this
is the first time he's gonna be on football since
he was ten years old to fifty six or fifty seven, Like,
(17:59):
he has not been away from football a part of
the team since he was ten. Think about that, and
that's what I think he was really wrestling with luck
and they all do. They all do? They all wrestling
it like man stepping away from something you've done that
long and not having your team. A lot of these
guys like look, John Lyns went back and trying to
(18:21):
be and well become a very successful general manager, but
decided to go do that because even though he's around
it with television, he's only around in the reeken. He
needs that team. And you know a lot of these
guys between their ears, they need that and that that's
what we provide an MVP. We provide you with a
(18:41):
new team for when the uniform comes off. So I
know it's the close fraternity of thirty two. How much
is their salary cap situation going to impact the coaching
search and those that are looking at them versus other jobs?
Not really, I mean, it's just so much that goes
(19:01):
into it. It's do they have a quarterback? Do they
have a good owner. But listen all the time too,
It's a lot of times when when people jobs there
have a culture of losing. So you know, these guys
all come in, they all change it. I'll change the
culture talking about and you gotta have that kind of
(19:23):
ego if you're gonna be a successful coach. Sure, Jake
Glazer with us, the Jason Spitzer with Mike Harmon Live
and the Fox Sports Radio studios all right, j Elsewhere
in the coaching carousel, we saw real click click close
for that to go back to that point and to
tie Sean Payton. When Sean Payton went out of the stage,
it was probably the most undesirable job in league history.
(19:46):
And what I mean is they just came off from
Katrina where they weren't even at home, but they were displaced.
Fans are wearing bags on their heads. They didn't have
a quarterback bring them there yet, right, So, man, it
wasn't his culture and they it was it was it
was they were displaced, and yet Sean, we'll go down there,
(20:11):
we'll change it. So you know what I mean, he
didn't look at it it's like, oh my god, there's
so much until battle. Instead he looked at it like
I get to change this place. I think most coaches
going with that same mindset, no matter what the obstacles, thinking,
I get to go change this place. J Blaze with
us here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, So with
(20:31):
with with Sean now waiting to see what happens, and
clearly you know, look, he's gonna be linked to the
Cowboys every day for the next three uh. With the
Broncos getting Nathaniel Hackett coming over from Green Bay, it's
connect the dots, Aaron Rodgers to the Broncos. Is it
that simple? Is it much more complicated? What? What do
you what do you think about this? Yeah? You guys
asked me, well earlier week, said yeah, I think it
(20:55):
will be, you know, go to another team. And then
I started talking to more and more people of colose
to Aaron. I started thinking, I'm not so sure anymore.
You know. So I was pretty sore earlier the week,
and now I'm not for sure. And it's and it's him,
it's whether or not Aaron loves to go, you know,
so you know he makes sense decision, um, but I'm
(21:17):
not like I was pretty damn sure all year long
and now I'm not. I'm sure now what I'm what?
I am sure? That I can never figure out Eric Rodgers.
You know, you know, um, you know, he's just a
different test. So I won't act like, oh, I know
all the answers you're with him, because, like Sean, even
if you said something, he may okay something else you
(21:39):
may have you know, working, which he's a smart jest. Yeah,
I would. I would just offer him a one page spreadsheet.
UH Minnesota fifty two per cent since he's been there
starting quarterback in Chicago forty seven. That's thirty thirty six
for Detroit. That's the winning percentages overall, he's won seventy
percent of his games against those three teams. Yep, no
(22:02):
doubt it. She'll be like, Okay, what do you want? Okay,
you got it. We're good. Because when you don't have
a quarterback man, life sucks in the NFL. That is
the boncher to go by in in UH and the
Bears seem to have their quarterback or at least in
theory j but they hire Eberflus out of Indianapolis, and
(22:24):
everybody in Chicago trying to make heads or tails of it.
When you've got the young quarterback but you go in
is helping heat up the search. So of course you're
gonna have UM. But I gotta tell you the GM
over there rhyme pulse, well, like, I think the dude
is a strong, solid like man. He he was in
(22:47):
life for some jobs. Last year he's been ready. He is.
He noted for a player's point of view, you know,
a salary cap. He goes from a personnel standpoint. Um,
and he's not a climber. That's where I'm like, you
haven't been one of the guys who are trying to
get their names out there and pick to move up
his you know, his name started going because he's good
(23:08):
at what he does. You can fom on Twitter at
Jay Glazer, that is at Jake Glazer and Jay. Before
we let you go, I gotta ask you this ge,
all the interviews you've been doing talking about the book
Unbreakable that is out right now, pick it up, Jay Glazer,
this book is absolutely unbelievable. I want to go back
to what Tiki Barber tweeted about you earlier today, saying, Hey,
(23:29):
over the years he slept on my couch. I taught
him how to change diapers. Dude, Jay, whose couch didn't
you sleep on? Straight hand? Tikey B I mean, how
many guys are gonna say, oh yeah, Jay slept on
my couch over the years too. So here's what y'all
don't know. And everybody out there you hear excuse me
on Fox in the old Sunday, Well, you don't know
when you'll find out the book. It's the first ten
of eleven years of my career. I made nine thousand
(23:52):
some of the hundred a year as it, And I said,
I'm an outwork the world. So it's not like I
worked two hours a week at sports reporting and then
another forty hours like waitering, apart, telling or bouncing or
something to make friends meet. I was making nineties seven
hundred bucks a year working ninety hours at this job.
So yeah, I didn't know where I was paying my
(24:14):
rent for all those leaders. So I was sleeping on
touches and I was bumming on some straight in and man,
I still don't We still joke about like how did
you pay your pills? I'm like, well, I know I
didn't sell drugs. I know I want to break it,
So I don't know. I really don't know. But also
the reason why stryand and are so close at one point, Hey,
so so bad for me. He's like, dude, and I
(24:35):
was like, behind my rent. He's like, let me just
pay your rent. I said, don't, dude, don't you ever
offer to give me money ever. I got this, I
will do it. It will be there. So for me
with my friend, give their score with my friend. But
don't you ever offer me money ever again. And that
was okay. There was you realize now I'm here for
your your friendship. I'm not here for anything else. And man,
(24:57):
I'm a loyalty guy. I'll tell you what else. For
nine of them, it happened. I was living down um
that's the fifty nine three pards and by the u
N And I didn't know where to go because we
didn't know what was happening. And so I actually ran
uptown to Tiki's place because Tiki was um away from
any landmark. So yeah, these guys, man, they've seen me
(25:19):
since my struggle um and and I was with Tich
on a driving range at Randols. Now much it's been
ten years. And had a full time job ninety seven
into bucks a year in my agent and man, my, my, my, my,
my trusted during the planet Marie God's friend told me.
He said, where you have. I said, I'm gonna driving
(25:40):
range Tiki, I'm rambles behind. He said, okay, you get
a sale. He said, we finally got you a full
time job. I said what. He so, we finally got
CBS Sports. We got the NFL today on cb answers
the second year back. I said, I'll take it. He said,
don't you wonder how much before? I said, I don't care?
(26:00):
Like validated me that when I said a long time ago,
i will outworked the world to make my dreams come true.
And it took ten eleven years being rejected every single
freaking week in my life. But a guy like me
with mental health and self esteem issues to get rejected
that much. It's just validated me when I said I'll
be the last dude standing in the earth, and she
(26:21):
was like, man like, that was my moment. It's always
few times of life when you find out who you are,
and that was one of them. And for eleven years,
I could have quit, and whoever said it quiting is
not an option is cone depth because it's shit's on
your shoulder every second of every day. I said, I
ain't gonna quit. I'm gona I work these guys and
told my dreams come true and said, well, fifty grand
(26:43):
of year. I said, thank you, my best friend, Gonald,
my day and Leaven and I went and I went
and picked my my copy up today and I had
another book with me, and the guy asked me, Okay,
I go. This is part of my journey and the
blueprint to getting there. So God blast man. I'm at
page and and all up to you. Man, You're doing
such great stuff. And I've listened to all the interviews. Obviously,
(27:05):
good morning America. You're on billboards and Times Square. What
the hell? Man, unbelievable. I used to box there in
Time Square gym and this is before Disney owner, so
it was. It was a red Leicester. Yes, I get
we'll get more fights going to the boxing gym. And
I wouldn't box with Jim Crazy. The book is Unbreakable
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How I turned my depression and anxiety into motivation and
you can too. It's available now. Check out Jay on
Twitter at Jay Glazer at Jay Glazer all the information there.
Wherever you buy books, you can get Unbreakable Jay. Keep
fighting the good fight. Awesome stuff, my friend, take care
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apply well all the coaching news in the NFL today.
And this is exactly I gotta say. It's not a
bowl prediction I made. It's kind of a bowl prediction
I made with myself, is that I knew when this
story was gonna break, it was gonna break exactly like
it did, and it was gonna be awkward, and this
story was gonna disappear really fast. Even though it's about
(30:09):
a retirement of a quarterback that's won two Super Bowls
and is headed to the Hall of Fame. Ben Roethlisberger
retired from the NFL earlier today. Put out a statement
on a social media page and this is how he
did it. And he put out a statement and he
talked about the thanks he has for the Steelers, the fans,
the organization as he waves goodbye to the NFL after
(30:30):
eighteen years. I don't know how to put into words
what the game of football has meant to me and
what a blessing it has been. Well, I know with
confidence I have given my all to the game. I
am overwhelmed with gratitude for all it has given me.
A boy from Finnly, Ohio with NFL dreams, developed an
Oxford at Miami University, blessed with the honor of eighteen
(30:50):
seasons as a Pittsburgh Stealer, and a place to call home.
The journey has been exhilarating to fined by relationships and
fueled by a spirit of competition. Yet the time has
come to clean up my locker, hang up my cleats,
and continue to be all I can be to my
wife and children. I retire from football a truly grateful man.
To the Rooney family, the Tall family, Coach Tomlin, Coach Kauer,
(31:14):
and all the coaches who have poured into me. The
incredible people on every level that make the Pittsburgh Steelers
a special organization. Thank you for believing in me and
allowing me to battle with you in pursuit of excellence.
To all of my teammates and the endless friendships that
I have gained, I appreciate you and our shared commitment
to wearing the black and goal with pride and dignity.
(31:37):
Putting that jersey on every Sunday with my brothers will
always be one of the greatest joys of my life.
To steal your nation, the best fans in all of sport.
Thank you for accepting and supporting me as your quarterback
over the years. Football has been a gift, and I
thank God for allowing me to play it all. Right. Wait,
first things first, Wait, go back and play a little
bit at it because I want, you know, I think
(31:58):
I want to buy a Ford truck. After listening to
the music that was in the background of Roethlisberger truck man,
just play it again. Coach Kaer and all the coaches
who have poured into me power under the hood. That's
what I dr eve. Oh my goodness, what do we
(32:21):
got from? And we got inspirational car truck music? Yeah,
we got that. Great. Let's take it and let's use
it on this um. You notice how you referenced the
Toll family that was not Jethro Toll, the guys that
from legendary pictures that owned part of the team and
gave us Batman and made heinz wards super fast. Uh done?
(32:42):
On on on, Hey, he's the smartest there is. Okay,
you show respect. Hang on, hang on, I gotta concentrate
for the next few minutes. Let me get off Ford
dot com. Hang on, all right. Look, the relationship Ben
Roethlisberger has with the Steelers is one that can best
be described as mutually beneficial. Okay, they're not upset he's gone,
(33:07):
and many people are an upset that Ben Roethlisberger has retired.
Look how awkward today was. This is a guy again,
eighteen years in the NFL, two Super Bowls, is going
to the Hall of Fame, is retiring in the top
ten all time in many quarterback categories, and he barely
(33:28):
was on the front page of ESPN dot com with
breaking news Ben Roethlisberger retires, and an hour after he retired,
it was gone, and it was other things. On the
front page. It was Bears higher eber Flews. No teammates
went crazy saying things about him. The Steelers didn't have
some kind of announcement planned, some joint announcement made with
(33:48):
Ben Roethlisberger. This was Roethlisberger putting out a message by himself.
Because Roethlisberger has always been at arms length from the
team and from most fans. It's hard for me to
talk about Roethlisberger after two sexual assault cases. It's hard.
I only wanted to talk about him in in the
in the when it was merited, which was it's a
(34:09):
football game, it's a big game, and we're talking about it,
and we talk about him, right I gotta. I want
to talk about him without passion or prejudice. He's a
guy in the NFL, right that that. You know, I'm
not thrilled with with with how everything went on with
his career and what happened. So this is how I
felt about it. I want to talk about him without
passionate prejudice, and I know I'm not alone, all right,
(34:29):
and after today he's just gonna sort of disappear and
you're just not going to hear from him again, right,
Because how many teammates do you know can't stand him
for all the different um things he has had during
his career, throwing him under the bus during interviews and
times with the press. How many of them don't like him?
Many we already know, we already know. There there's no
pageantry for him retiring. There's nothing from the Steelers. There
(34:51):
was no nothing else. Today you have some you had
some guys on social media saying thanks Ben, with a
picture of them hugging him. The Steelers put out a
message on social media that just said thanks Ben. Great
and now Ben Roethlisberger's gone, all right. His relationship was
just mutually beneficial. And because of what happened both off
the field with the two different sexual assault cases, uh
(35:13):
and and because of what it was like on the field,
because Roethlisberger, you know, his teammates, he had a difficult
time getting along with them. You're not gonna get a
lot of guys you're gonna stand up saying, oh my goodness,
Ben Roethlisberger, And it permeates everywhere, right, it was barely
How much was Roethlisberger's retirement covered today in the media.
There's more stuff on Nathaniel hack It. People don't know
who the hell of the guy is. Yeah, it's a
(35:34):
bigger deal because he was a Really it's a forward
looking statement when it comes to hack It. This do
you think when we presumed this FIRS never think Tom
Brady's retirement is gonna be like, yeah, statement and that's it.
I mean Benlisberger, He's not Brady, But this guy's going
to the Hall of Fame. Right, one of the best
quarterbacks we've seen eighteen years, two super Bowls, He's going
to the Hall of Fame's hey, he's retired, and now
(35:55):
we're moving on to other things. He's difficult to talk about.
He doesn't have the the the doesn't get the hug
that most great leaders and great quarterbacks and guys who
retire get either from the media, from teammates, from fans.
It's just awkward. And this is gonna be the last
time we talked about. He's not going to be an
active alum for this dealer. They're not gonna bring him
back to big nights when they're Hey, look, at that. Well,
(36:16):
I'll look at the James Farrier's here, Oh, James Harrison
is here. Look at Iron's wardens here. Ben Roethlisberg. No,
it's not happening. I mean, I think it's as much
as that he's gonna disappear and I and I don't know,
but I don't know how much he's gonna want to
be in the spotlight, right, He's always been pretty quiet. Hell,
other than blocking folks, you know, other whoever was running
his social media. It's not like he was active on
(36:39):
social media, which is what made this announcement a little
different and made it white, made it awkward. He's not
on social media and he puts the announcement out on
social media. I look, I I I get that. Maybe
he's he's going to be a different kind of guy
in retirement. This is someone who we always knew when
he was hurt, he wanted us to know know what
he was. He crafted his ine of what he wanted
(37:01):
out there really carefully for the last fifteen years, and
even most guys guys do he wanted out there, right,
But it was no other quarterback we knew was playing
with injuries, but we knew every single injury. Ben Roethlisberger
was playing with Why why do we know this? Why
was Mike Tomlin always so upset when someone would ask
a question at Press Covererence, Hey, so Ben's elbow? Is
he gonna be well enough to play this week? How
did you find out about that? I can't believe this. Look.
(37:23):
That's kind of who Roethlisberger was, and and it's why
it makes it makes him difficult, at least for me.
He's difficult to talk about. Certain athletes are just tough
to talk about. And and from the from the perspective
that that we have of what happened off the field
versus where he's at when on the field. Everywhere you
look today it seemed awkward. There was there was no Hey,
(37:44):
we have two hours of Ben Roethlisberger retiring coverage where
it's gonna be wall to wall when Tom Brady retired,
Tom Brady, Joseph Wilson retaining and playing well. Russell Wilson
will see. But certainly for Tom Brady, I mean, you're
talking about record breaking, you're talking about influence, interesting lifestyle stuff.
Giselle bunching a guy who's winning into his forties, which
(38:06):
takes out a whole different thing than just, hey, this
guy's winning football games. Ben Roethlisberger. We've been waiting on
the retirement announcement for two years, right, even with the
touchdown interception ratio a year ago. Uh, you could see
the shot chart, for lack of a better term, uh,
to put it in NBA parlance, you know, it was
getting shorter, and it was a lot of yak. And
this year was even worse when it came to that.
(38:29):
So it wasn't a question of, you know, was he
gonna retire. It was like, all right, eventually it's gonna
pop out when you've got a punt bunch of other
news being made. Steelers will, no doubt at all, given
the franchise they are, they'll celebrate him at the proper time,
and he'll have his big nights and they'll put the
(38:49):
jersey up and all that other stuff, you know. As
related to the assault charges two thousand and eight, two
thousand ten, yeah, two is different, and it would have
been covered differently and maybe come to a different end, right,
lack of evidence in the case. Uh, And then this,
the other case was settled in twelve and so now
(39:12):
it's it's the question of you know, what, what more
do you do with it? You know, do you do
you take it at its face value? You know, family
and that he's a change guy. You know, do you
guys get it? Does he get a chance to grow
out of that? And and that that's for each individual
to take two And for the most part, I mean
with most of these guys, we're not we're not diving
(39:32):
deep into their personal lives unless we're gonna do an
interview with him, right otherwise, you know, or they're getting
in trouble. So if you and I had been on
air sure in two thousand and eight, two thousand ten,
that would have been front frontline stuff. But again, you
know it, it went the path it did. And you
wonder if police departments, the NFL, and everybody else would
(39:54):
look at it differently. Here, right, did have a suspension
that popped in you know, the one guy that did
pop and you you did talk about Tom Brady repeatedly.
Quote Ben defied the TB twelve method in favor of
the quote throw some ice on it method. His whole
career ended up with an all time great six Pro Bowls,
two Super Bowls. There's more than one way to bake
(40:14):
a cake. So it goes back to the j Glazer
uh thing that he told us years ago. Yeah, Ben
doesn't train like everybody else. He was trying to be better.
But yeah, it certainly is it. It's a it's a
different you know there, everybody's complicated and this, right Aaron
Rodgers was pretty simple until about a year ago. He doesn't. Look.
(40:38):
I get what you're saying about about Roethlisberger and and
and and everything you said, but just think about this
for a second. I just think about this. In the
next few days, We're not gonna get any stories from
Roethlisberger's former teammates about what a great leader he was.
And let me tell you this great story about Ben
and what he did here. We know because we haven't
(40:58):
gotten any of those stories up until now. Nobody tell
They tell those stories about Brady and Russell Wilson and
Cam Newton and everything, but there's been none about that.
There was no celebration for Roethlisberger and his career following
his last home game in Pittsburgh. Did the Steelers have
anything planned for him after the game. No, it was
just I want to sit on the bench and I'm
gonna go thank the fans and I'm gonna go be
(41:18):
on the on the set with the guys after the
game is over. And that said, there was nothing else.
There's a when when when Mike Tomlin and other players
are asked about Roethlisberger, they give an answer and they
move on. And that's kind of what that's kind of
what it's. It's not a bad answer. Is his boy?
What can you say about Ben? Look at what he's
done throughout his career. That that's what Mike Tomlin said.
This was about mutually beneficial relationship with him, the team,
(41:41):
and his teammates. And he won, and he was a
really good quarterback and he was able to make plays
and had a very unique style. Where as big as
he was, he was able to stay elusive in the
pocket and make plays down the field and see the
field really really well. Everything on the football field, yes,
but everything else. This is why you're gonna see his
story and right now, and it's not gonna have any
(42:01):
legs to it and is not gonna be a podcast
telling the story about Roethlisberger did this once. The only
stories are gonna come out are gonna be hey, you
know what Roethlisberger did to me? One time. Those are
the stories you're gonna get now that he's retired. You
know what he did to me? You know, that's what
you're gonna get because that that that's that's where this
story goes from here with Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, I'm curious.
I gotta imagine there's someone in the building that liked him,
(42:23):
didn't he somewhere? I think they like that they won,
that he was winning help cure cure a lot of things. Sure,
I mean that's that that that that's what I mean.
I just want to hear more. No, I don't. I
was gonna say. I want to hear more from Levian
Bell and Antonio Brown. Alright, a Tonio Brown, dude. He
was on one of the morning shows this morning talking
(42:44):
about and it's like, why that story's done until he's
signed to another team. Yeah, because he's he's Antonio Brown.
What's he gonna say? I don't know. Put him on
and put a microphone in front of him. You never
know what's gonna happen. You have no idea. Yeah, that's
that's the fear factor of live television radio. Keep that
dump button like it's uh, you know you're playing press
(43:04):
your luck, just a just a really awkward day all
around for Roethlisberger. And it's it's because of everything that's
gone on his career and the image he has and
the reputation he has with the Steelers and with his teammates,
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