March 12, 2022 • 36 mins
Jason and Mike react to the news surrounding Deshaun Watson, and try to pinpoint what will happen next. Where is he going to play, and will he be suspended by the league? Plus, Jason and Mike discuss ESPN scooping up Joe Buck and Tory Aikman for Monday Night Football.
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where we may only be three hours away from Lebron
James passing up the game winning shot against the Wizards.
The excitement. What a Friday night to look forward to. Yes,
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big night in the NBA. Look, big day, Big day
as well in college basketball as we get closer and
closer to selection Sunday. Right now, clearly, and this is
to percent, clearly, Uh, there is one team that can
stop John Morant. That is the New York Knicks. The
Knicks lead by ten going to the fourth quarter. Julius
Randall has thirty John Morant as minus four team. So
(01:12):
clear the Knicks are the kryptonite. The best players can't
beat the Knicks. Mike Harmon. This is just how it goes.
Still twelve minutes of basketball to be played. He just
it's over now. They just ended the game third quarter.
That's it right there. Yeah, it's gonna throw the damn towel.
That's what we're talking about here. Look, great effort by
the Knicks thus far, as much as I hate to,
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you know, feed into your nonsense to start a Friday
Night Nicks Knicks, Nicks, Nicks. But Julius Randall has thirty,
Barret has one, Robinson needs to and then you'll have
all five starters and double figures. I mean, that's a
pretty big deal. When John Morant just nine of twenty two. Yeah,
look at that, and look at the Knicks say, hey,
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we may wait until it's too late, but then we
really start playing. That's the Knicks just needed all the
pressure off them and for people to not believe even
then they start playing. Well, it's all I needed Julius
Randall in particular, you know, and he took all that personally.
Do we have any chance to win? No? Our seasons cooked? Okay,
now I play all right, now, try to stop me.
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He had ten against the Clippers in his twenty nine minutes.
And then forty six, then twenty six, and right now
thirty with twelve minutes of glorious basketball to be played.
So we'll keep you updated on the night that is
in the NBA, and again Lebron and the Wizards are
about a half hour away, and just can't wait to
see Lebron dribble underneath the hoop and pass out and
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and football story that has kind of shook the world.
A grand jury on Friday declining to indict Texans quarterback
to Shaun Watson. This follows the big police investigation sparked
by lawsuits that were filed by twenty two women who
accused him of harassment and sexual assault. UH evidence and
testimony was presented to the grand jury for six hours
on Friday. Deshaun Watson didn't testify he took the Fifth
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Amendment and it didn't matter. The grand jury, uh rejected
all nine cases that were presented to them. Prosecutors did
not present the tenth. And there's so many big takeaways
from this answer, and you know, and the first one,
and and this is what what I come to all
all the time, you know, because we like to sit
here and play you know, lawyers on the radio and
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on TV and think this is what a day looks like.
And there's times when you see a big court case
going and you think, this is a good day for
the prosecution, this is a good day for the defense.
But today underscores just how much really none of us
understand the law unless you do it for a living.
None of us do. Because you you've seen the story
for the better part of the past year. Here's twenty
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two women who have filed lawsuits against him. Prosecutors presented
nine of the cases today, nine of them, and the
grand jury rejected all of them. When and I never
thought that was gonna happen. They reject all of them.
This is what's And now suddenly the conversation is gonna
turn to Deshaun Watson, his NFL future. What about what what,
what's next? Everything changed today. I never thought this was
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gonna be the result today, and it happened so fast.
He took he took the Fifth Amendment. I said, this
is gonna go all weekend. They're gonna present cases. Nope, Nope, nope, nope, nope.
And and to see this was very shocking. And I
actually talked to Amy Dash, you know who we have
on the show all the time, sports attorney and an adviser,
and she said, you know, when I looked at the
when I got a chance to look at the evidence,
I had a feeling. I saw, this is gonna be
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difficult to prove, you know, because there there was text
messages and there's different things that the that the uh
prosecution presented. But I said, I thought it was going
to be difficult to prove. And I'm saying to myself, Wow,
we have all the text messages, we have X, Y
and Z and all these we have all these women
and this is still not It didn't happen, none of it.
And I was just not because I thought one way
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or the other. And I'm saying guilty, guilty, guilty, or no,
let them go, let him go, to them go, just
judging by how this story was going, Mike, I'm like, Okay,
well I can tell what's gonna happen is there's gonna
be some kind of indictment. He's gonna have to go
through this, and now there's none. And it really underscores
just what what what happens and what the truth and
and and what and what it is is underscored by
what you can prove and what the law is about,
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and and realized I know absolutely nothing about as much
as I want to pretend I do. And I think
I'd be good in front of a jury because I
give that Tom Cruise a few good men's speech, and
I'm good with a bunch of people in a box
in front of me going hey, look at me. I'm
the kid. I'm gonna talk because I talk for a living.
But the the minutia of the law is something that
is just it's like the solar system. I can't imagine
how big it is and how many things you have
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to go through and just what what I and and
general you know, in general, the public just don't understand
about the law and how it works and how we
get certain decisions that we do. Yeah, I mean there's
always just that question of where the gaps between what
you think and what the the law is right in
in the gap between an indictment to all right, let's
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proceed with charges and all of that, you know, trying
to make sense of it all because you know, we
we've always heard the phrasing and many a movie and
television show has said it, well, you can indict a
ham sandwich. And if you look at it from a
straight uh definition of getting an indictment, Yeah, it's it's
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it's pretty nebulous, right, it's all right, witnesses whatever. Okay,
there's enough to move forward. And then it's that gap
right as to how big that is and how you
narrow it. And you know, Rusty Harden, you know, has
been a high profile lawyer for a long time. Uh
So you know, you get it's like, you know, any
anything right, you're gonna pay a big price. Then they
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know the law and they know where the gaps are
and everything. And for Deshaun Watson and you know, the
team that was assembled here, you know, it's certainly I
know insiders tweeting out about it got raped over the
coals based on word choice and verbiage and uh, insensitivity.
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It's hard, right because what comes out of this, Uh,
for a lot of folks like all right, it's exoneration
and move forward like well, not not so fast, not
so fast from a criminal side. That's where we are.
But I agree with you. I mean, I debated going
to law school a long time ago. Uh, and I
left it when as soon as like, yeah, you're gonna
need to be able to memorize every book on that wall.
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But I did pretty well with sports movies and and
song lyrics. But I don't know that I'm going to
remember all these cases precedents and whatever else. And you know,
spending a number of years as a researcher and trying
to gain those skills did not appeal to me, so
I have gone from it. But are they picture books?
Are they books? Do they tell me when sleeping beauty falls?
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Sleep brighter than that? I mean, I know the perception
of sports talk radio focus that we're we're all a
bunch of sweatpants wearing guys who never got out of
the fifth grade. I mean, that's that. It's not true.
It's not true. I'll show you, I'll tell you about
all those things. But screw you for saying, guys wearing sweatpants,
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what's wrong with wearing sweatpants? Man? Was it was? It
was not an or statement. It was an an statement.
This and this and this, and it comes back to
they're not educated and they're just yelling into a microphone. Uh,
most folks will tell you in two minutes, I could
do your job. Is that the defendant? No, that's the
lawyer in in sweatpants and a T shirt and a
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Mets hat. Yeah, that's the lawyer. Believe it or not. Hey,
you know what, if you know the law and you
can convince the judge that you need that's a good
thinking cap that should be allowed because of some something
in your life. There you know that it makes you
a better lawyer. It isn't connected to someone outside the
courtroom feeding you information. Then then why not Mr Smith?
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You need sleeves on in my courtroom? You need sleeves. Yeah,
but I move around better, you know you need sleeves.
I like to make wild gestures with my arms, and
I find dress shirts, ties and suit coach restricting. But
your honor sons out guns out aspite defense. I mean,
that's that's that's critical to everything I'm going to say
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you're taking that away from me, I file a rid
of habeas corpus against you right now. See, now we're
getting into the RITZ, I can file a rid of
habeas corpus. I think you just wanted to say that. Yeah,
I kind of did. I guess I kind of did.
You know? Rit of habeas corps corpus recourse and law
through which a person can report an unlawful detention or
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imprisonment to a court and request that the court order
the custodian of the person, usually a prison official, to
bring the prisoner to court. Yeah, okay, to determine whether
the detention is lawful. See, I don't think anybody really
knows what that means. I could file that. They wouldn't
know that well, but that's just it. Like Waite, who's
being detained. I think I thought you were gonna get
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me for contempt for not wearing sleeves. So this was
a preemptive act on my part, your hunter. You know what?
What what if I just went and decided to to
object why and I would say, like, uh, you know,
Harmon versus Frostburg that this is not allowed in the
core law, and that would just make stuff up and
they would go, where's the precedent for that? I would say,
how you couldn't find that? All the different law things
(10:36):
that happened, they couldn't find harmon versus that building burned out.
It was in a small town in the northwest Indiana.
I mean, what are you gonna do? I mean, there's
no they couldn't find tie shirt versus Whole Foods two
thousand and seventeen when he got some bad keene. I mean,
I'm just kidding out of the microfiche burned and what
can I do? I would just make stuff. I'd completely
(10:57):
make stuff up right now, speaking of that now before
we get because we we have the part of the
Deshaun Watson story. Uh that what's next for him and
moving on, which we're gonna get to you in a
few minutes. But this is something that I really am
surprised because you know, I told you I talked to
Amy dash Day. I did an interview with her for
his League of Justice dot com just dot com website.
(11:17):
We talked about Deshaun Watson, and one of the things
she said to me was, you know, she gave me
some free legal advices. Okay, what's that? She said? Never
have your case be hurd on a Friday. And I said,
why she goes because you think of all these things
that go into a case, and these are people's lives
and this is this is big money, and it's reputation
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and it's it's it's stress, and it's all of these
things going on. And you have jurors who may decide
one thing just because they want to go home because
you know what, I've been away from my family and
I'm done. I want to go home and have dinner.
She goes, it's it's it happens. I said, you're kidding.
She goes, it does. And you think everything that's at
steak steak, you think everything that's at stake, and still
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this happened where people decide when and you're stunned by
the decision and it doesn't seem like it's And she's
not talking about this this case, she's just saying Friday
in general, crazy things can happen, and things that get
that that are a surprising occur because of that, because
people just decide. You know, I've been here all week,
I'm done, i haven't seen my family. My daughter had
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to recital last night. I couldn't go to we had
a game. I mean, I'm ready to go home. What
are we doing so I can get done at five o'clock.
Let's get done. Let's get done. I'm done. And that happens,
and that and that you think about how shocking that
is when all the money and all the time and
effort that goes into one case versus the next, and
people's lives in the balance, And yeah, I really want
to go home. Enought dinner, so I'm ready to go. Let'
let's just vote we're done. Well. But but that's the
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thing though, right, you know, think about how hard it
is men and everybody out there. Uh, there's a good
percentage of you that have kind of chucked the jury
notice in your mailbox to the side right that you've
been selected for jury duty, or you've called to try
to get it pushed back, citing any number of excuses,
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and then you go and you sit and you wait patiently, wishing, wanting,
hoping that your number is not called that day, and
they basically just say, all right, that's it, we don't
have any more cases. You're done. I mean, there there's
a million things, but when you actually get on a jury.
I've had family members that have been part of it.
Um me me with uh, you know, my dad, having
been a law enforcement officer in Chicago, Normally I got
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one side or the other that's vigorously shaking their next
to the point of whiplash, telling no, that guy can't
be here because you know what discussions I might have
had with my dad. But those that have sat on juries, Yeah,
there's always at least one or two people. Uh. And
and perhaps in over generalization, I mean, I'm not saying
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they don't take it seriously, but there's also considerations of
their lives, their time, because as much as it may
be a huge case to the defendant, to the plaintiffs,
and in this case a lot of plaintiffs, once they're
out of that jury room, it doesn't matter to them anymore, right,
I mean, at least for some folks for something, they're
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gonna carry it one way or another based on what
they've heard, what they've seen, and everything going forward. But yeah,
it's human nature, right, self interest. Uh, sometimes it's gonna
rule the day, and certainly on a Friday, I can
see where any deliberations get shortened by a couple of
folks being aggressive about the weekend ahead. We're gonna be
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here till ten o'clock. Now, my wife made strawberry ice cream.
I'm done, I've been I'm ready to go. Here's my vote.
What do you guys want to vote? Let's all vote. Let'
let's vote. Let's vote. I can I could be home
in a half hour. I can vote. Let's vote right now.
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you where I thought he would go and where he's
gonna wind up ending up, it's gonna be one team
and then that team is going to have to move
their quarterback. Where is it? We'll tell you coming up
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been great in baseball. We'll get to Deshaun Watson a second.
It's been a big day in baseball. We do the signings.
We're gonna start happening fast and furious. Clayton Kershaw's going
back to the Dodgers for one year and seventeen million.
And I know, Mike, you and I are both really
excited our teams getting in the mix now. And hey,
you know, look, you know we talk a lot about
the Mets here, you know, and obviously you know what happens.
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But I'm excited about your White Sox man, that pitching
staff they're gonna bring back this year, and Rodon coming
off that ear he had a year ago. You're gonna
have some kind of season this year. Unfortunately, Oh, Carlos
left us jerk? Did I know the setup? Wait? Did
you get a blank bomb off? You turn your mic offs?
(17:27):
You could say blank you and then turn your mic
on and start talking. Probably I'm not gonna disavow it. Yeah, jerk,
that's one of my favorite guys. Because the thing is like,
there are players that that you like because of their
performance on the field, and Carlos has given Yeah, I mean,
(17:47):
Carlos has certainly given White Sox fans and baseball fans
a lot of thrills as a member of the team.
But he and his wife Ashley huge in interacting with
White Sox fans and and questions and answers and you know,
making them, you know, family more or less. So the
(18:09):
announcement today two years forty four to the Giants is like,
all right, well that sucks, and he's had injury issues
and and got blessing at twenty two million dollars. You
take the short term deal, Uh, do the prove it
and then in a couple of years you're back at
it again. But yeah, that's a huge loss for them,
(18:30):
not only uh, in the in the rotation, but in
that clubhouse, no question about it. Yeah. So and look,
Freddie Freeman supposedly deciding on his team could be the Yankees,
could be the Dodgers. And if Frostburg sends me that
damn photo shop one more time. All right, but man,
at least give credit to the guy the artists who
put that together, because I know you didn't do it.
(18:52):
You weren't in your pro create doing that. It all happening.
Uh so a lot more baseball and who knows. Look, look,
the Mets could make some big moves, big trains before
the night's over each. I mean they argue that about
to send the luxury tax or whatever. Why because they
want to spend money. Well, they want to be penalized. Yeah,
well that's just sometimes when all you have is to
(19:13):
be able to spend money, you need to be able
to do that. Like it's a bad thing. Nobody else
wants to go to New York. How do we do it?
We just overbid everybody. Well, okay, then that's gonna get
me to New York and get me to the bets.
That's a big advantage we need to have. That we need.
If we can't spend, we can't compete. We got to
spend in every walk of life, no matter what you
do for a living. All you out there wherever you're listening,
(19:33):
thanks for being part of the family here, whether you
finished the day and you're raising a glass, or whether
you're on the road or in the office or wherever
you're working and listening to us. We appreciate you. But
you understand it. You have to take advantage of whatever
little sliver that you got over your competition, whether it's
the people in the building, outside the building, you've got
(19:55):
your independent contractor so proprietor whatever it is, you're trying
to find your edge. And for the Mets, all it
is is my owner goes on Twitter and he's got
a big checkbook. So take advantage of those. That's what
you have to do. Hey, but what aren't you a destination? No?
Don't people really want to go play there? No? Why
would they? What's your highly off destination? I gotta check,
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you know it's But but that's the whole thing, is
that boy? You know I I don't know if we're
gonna win there, though, that's true. I don't know. Are
you set up to win long term? No, that's a
good question. Do you have a great atmosphere around the
ball club? Now that's a big question too. So why
should we come there? You tell me what's your highest
offer right now? Well, we're getting three years and sixty million.
How about three years and ninety million. I'm a met
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met smets met smets met smet smet met semets. That's
how it has to go. That's how it works. That's
that's not that's not a bad way to be. Uh.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. So we talked about Deshaun Watson
this situation at the beginning of the show. And now
that it looks like his criminal aspect of it is cleared,
(20:59):
he's going to have to deal with the civil version
of the case, the women who have brought charges against him.
But now, this was the big hurdle, This was the
big hurdle that the Texans had to get past in
order to be able to trade him. And now, look,
he's a quarterback in the NFL, regardless of what hanging
is hanging over him, and this is a big domino
coming up to follow in the off season. And while
(21:20):
it would be hard for me to root for my
team right now getting DeShawn Watson, look, he's he's still
a great quarterback and he's gonna likely be allowed to
play in the NFL. Could there be some kind of discipline? Yeah,
you might get that from the NFL, but he's going
to be able to resume his career with no criminal
charges filed against him. Where's he gonna wind up? And
(21:41):
that's been a big topic over the course of the
past three or four hours because you've heard the names
of some of the teams that are involved, and and
then you hear once in a while there's a mystery team.
Now there's no mystery team that's gonna get involved. For
Deshaun Watson, it's not gonna happen. It's just gonna be
like we heard for Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, there's
gonna be a couple of teams that want them and
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it's gonna and the same thing with Russell Wilson. There's
a couple of teams that want to trade for a
quarterback that are gonna give you everything you need to
go get that quarterback. And for Watson, I have a
hard time believing he's gonna end up anywhere but Philadelphia.
The entire duration of the saga with DeShawn Watson, Philadelphia
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has been there. They've been on the periphery, they've been
at the middle of it. We had the report in
the middle of the NFL season that the Eagles supposedly
were close to pulling the trigger on a deal for him,
It's well, oh wait, really, this is wait what what what?
And obviously nothing's gonna happen. While no one knew how
his legal case was gonna end up, but you knew
that the interest was there, and the the believing in
(22:42):
in in Jalen Hurts was kind to there. And as
time went on and they didn't look like they were
gonna get Deshaun Watson. Right now, we're in on Jalen Hurts.
But Philadelphia has always been around Watson. It's it's it's
that that that player that they just for whatever reason,
that's the guy they want. And and it's it's a
difficult um needle to thread to try to make this
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happen because you have to tell your fan base it's
okay to get this guy. There's lots of things that
have to happen, but Philadelphia, they've been the team all along,
and so I I would find it hard to believe
that he's gonna wind up anywhere but there, because they
had the impetus to get a deal done a few
months ago, and for the last few months, are they
really gonna be outbid by another team. Is someone else
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that we haven't even been talking about gonna come in
over the top and say no, we want to Shaun
Watson to come in. I I don't see that. It's
about relationships. It's about DeShawn Watson knowing the Eagles want him.
They're gonna put him into position to succeed in the
NFC East, which is a really craptastic division. So that's
kind of if he winds up somewhere other than Philadelphia, Mike,
I'll be pretty surprised. Yeah. I think there's a couple
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of teams where it makes sense. And you've heard the
whispers and rumblings, and you know folks that want to
go to tie shirt squad there in Cleveland's like get
rid of Baker Mayfield. Okay, there's a couple of things
with that. One does does Houston necessarily want him? How
much better is he than what Davis Mills showed you
last year? At Davis Mills cost you nothing at this point, right,
(24:11):
are you gonna bring Baker and saying I can fix
him and he's going to be the guy? The answer, Uh,
probably not um. But one thing that looms in all
of this right, and I know some folks are uneasy
with it. Getting back to football talk. Look, we are
a sports talk radio show. Uh. And based on that
hurdle of criminal charges being pushed away and now it's
(24:33):
civil and league suspension, which will come. Right, They've suspended
guys for much less, uh in terms of news and
information and charges around a guy. But you know, Carolina
is a possibility. But I think the background has started
to say and derailed myself, is that he's got in
(24:55):
full no trade clause. When we were talking with Softie
the other day, he's like, yeah, there's like six eight guys.
He's one of those guys. So you've got to make
it to where he wants to go. And you're you're
looking at well, can you pair it up? Carolina. There's
been talk that they would be willing to get rid
of McCaffrey. Well, if that's the case, is Deshaun Watson
going to go there? If McCaffrey is gonna be gone
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or if he has to be included in a deal
coming back? Uh? Does does that mute uh any desire
to be part of that? Because like Sam Donald is
what he is. They have a firsty have the sixth overall,
but they have no second or third round pick, So
you're gonna be going into multiple number ones, which you
were gonna do anyway, But how how far do you stretch?
It is gonna be like the Lakers. Their next first
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round pick comes in Y eight, might be the case um,
and then after by the time it's all a sudden,
they might not pick till they may not pick till
Bobby Bennie has done getting paid by the Mets. That's
a good point. And then obviously you know the other
team is Seattle. Everybody tries to immediately connect the dots,
but do they have the draft cab pittal or players
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that they can send back. No, they don't, So it's
it's going to limit the number of suitors. I've seen
Tampa Bay thrown out there. Uh, And it's just all right.
If you don't have an a list quarterback, it's all right,
how do we time? It's like, oh, at a he
want has to want to go there, and Tampa he
could actually be attracted to. But again, do you have
the assets to to send back to go get him?
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And then you have the obvious pull back of the
question of Organizationally, as much as you love the player,
do you do you dive right in right. That's the
other part in all of this is the the player
versus what is there and getting to the truth of
the matter. Again, just because there weren't criminal charges doesn't
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mean there's still not other stuff that has to be
pushed through and cleaned up and a league suspensions. So
and then you're dealing with your your shareholders, I your
season ticket holds, your sweetholders, you're advertising and business partners.
There's a lot of hoops that you have to make
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sure you've done your your due diligence. That's why probably
Philly jumps to that to the head as you said,
and Caroline, is that, you know the pipe dream just
because of the the desire that they had Matt Rule
and company going to last year. I mean, I don't
see some surprise out of the blue here the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon. Now, it's when you say
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that and you mentioned the Seahawks. See this is how
I think it's going to go. You mentioned Davis Mills,
who had a really good end of the season live.
I don't think people understand how well he played the
end of the year last year. If you say we'll
take back Jalen Hurts, is that gonna help you? Do
you really want to have a Jalen Hurts versus Davis
Mills quarterback derby or do you want to have Davis
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Mills play and you draft somebody because if Mills isn't
for real, then you have your next quarterback. I don't
see that happen. I don't see the Eagles turning around
and sending Jalen Hurts back to the Texans. What I
do see is the team that's got the draft capital
that won't have to send a lot because look at
there there, you know it's it's gonna be a buyer's
market for Jalen Hurts. That's where I see him ending
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up is Seattle. I see Jalen Hurts getting to the Seahawks,
and they're gonna gonna get a first round pick, most
likely for him, which the Eagles can give up because
which the Seahawks and because they just got a boatload
of picks from the from the Broncos, they got two
first two seconds. Uh, and now you can grab yourself
a quarterback who was pretty good last year, who you
don't have to change the offense. For that much. Russell
Wilson like to run around a lot in the pocket.
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Jalen Hurts likes to run around a lot in the pocket. Okay,
you can take advantage of that skill set. And Jalen
Hurts is a pretty good quarterback. So I can see
the Seahawks trying to reload by getting a guy who's
gonna be on a second round deal for another couple
of years, and all that money you've freed up with
Wilson the draft picks, you can potentially remake the team
even faster because if you make the trade for DeShawn Watson,
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guess what you're paying them, right and now, so all
the money we had, we gotta fix the rest of
the team. Now, you can't really do that. But when
Jalen hurts On on a set can round contract, which
is not even the end of a rookie year first
round contract eighteen million dollars, you can really take that
team and make it into a competitive team in the
most loaded division in the NFL. So if I could
play connect the dots here Philadelphia, because they've had the
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interest into Shawn Watson all along, and then the and
then the Seahawks swooping in and saying, Okay, we'll take
Jalen Hurts. Here's a first round pick. And the Eagles
are like, great, we got to Shawn Watson. We traded
first round picks, whatever we had to give up for him.
We just got one back, and we got our quarterback
for the next ten years. And the and the Seahawks say,
we got our guy now, maybe for the next ten years,
but if not, we were able to spend money around
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and we can draft a quarterback and try to replace him.
That's where I see Jalen Hurts wind up winding up
at the end. It's not a not a bad move.
I'd be curious to see, you know, based on need
of of where they're at. Seattle's obviously you've got a
couple of wide receivers and then a lot of question marks.
Right resigning Rashad Penny for what the market is gonna
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command for him, are you trusting that he's staying healthy
to be your guy? Uh? In terms of giving up
the cash capital, But yeah, I mean, the the trade
to cover for what you did with Jamal Adams does
give you some flexibility, just a matter of whether you
want to go all in on. I mean it's not
a full rebuild. But obviously in Philadelphia the question of hurts.
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I like Hurts, I think more than most. But he
goes again to a shoddy offensive line. But at least
has two weapons. Uh that you can do the Joe
Burrow just fling it up and let him make plays philosophy,
so you can at least work with that. Be sure
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I knew something was coming Fox Sports Radio, That Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harman. Keep scaring me. Uh,
we'll have more NBA coming up in a little bit. Uh,
Lakers underway against the Wizards, Kuzma, k c P back
the crypt. Look, how great is this? But big NFL
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news today outside of Deshaun Watson, and that is that, Uh,
Troy Aikman and Joe Buck are gonna be reunited on
Monday Night Football with ESPN. So I've heard the last
broadcast and Troy Aikman and Joe Buck my my life.
Yes you you yeah, We're gonna be doing this, knock Wood.
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I don't know the next time we'll hear their voices.
But um, because I told you I was really coming
around to traitman, always using the last few words of
the sentence before in his answer. He's good active listening.
You know. It's like you said, hey, Troy, did did
you see something really wrong on this play? Yeah? You
know there was something really wrong on this play? And
then he'll go into it. He does that all the
time you talked to Carol. He was really concerned about
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this game. Yeah, Pete Carroll was really concerned about this game.
And that I love when Troy does that, Oh absolutely.
But he's become far more critical as he's gotten further
away from the game, and he and Buck uh, there's
a lot of snark. And look when when they didn't
let him do that Cowboys game, he was pissed. Yeah,
now now I'll get to do it when the Cowboys
on Monday Night Football. We get to do the Cowboys. Well,
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you're gonna get better games on Monday Night Football. I
can tell you that, Yeah, he'll He'll also I get
to watch the games on Sunday when he's get to
watch the Cowboys on set, doesn't get to the ship
right now, I'll get to watch the Cowboys. But this
is a big move right, and you're gonna starting to
see names go all over the place. Where is Al
Michael's gonna wind up? He could be the guy without
a seat, Mike to Rico's gonna take over Sunday night
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play by play duties and Kirk Herb Streets going to
Amazon on Thursday nights. It's been a big musical chairs.
Why did this happen? Why did ESPN pay so much
money for Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. They would not
have done this if not for social media. ESPN is
a company, and some companies do. They take so much
stock in what people say on social media Twitter and
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and Instagram. And they were just done with every week
people ripping the broadcast booth at Monday night football had
no matter what it was. They were done seeing Steve
Levy trend because he said a name wrong or he
in in the course of three and a half hours,
Uh he misidentified a players uncle or something. And this
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is the way it is. Right. It was with with
the booker McFarland booth when it was what is going
on and all that, and now so they went to
a new booth and now ESPNS finally said, you know
what's screw it, Let's pay all kinds of millions of
dollars so no one's gonna criticize us. And every time
we see Troy Aquan trending, people are gonna disagree with
what he says, but no one can impeaches his football
skill and his acumen. They made this move strictly because
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they were done with every night and every day after
and reading all the columns they do on the East
Coast websites and sports pages about how all ESPNS broadcast
booth from Monday night football is embarrassing. They don't have
the good enough guys, and the broadcast is fine. Everything
was fine. You could put good broadcasters out there. People
are gonna, hey and watch what happens with Joe Buck
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and Troyckman now that they're at ESPN. You thought at
the Fox people said, way do you see now what
happens at ESPN with ESPN B in the evil sports
empire that it is? Way do you see what people
say about Joe Buck and Troy Aikman now on Monday
night football? Good luck? Uh. This would not have been
done if not for the fact that they were so
sick and tired of every time we put on on
a show, people get mad and there's an overwhelming react,
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even though Twitter is just Twitter, but people take it
so seriously. Man, if that wasn't the case, they would
have stuck with their initial broadcast booth. They could have
they could have kept Joe Fisman on the air doing
Monday Night football, put them on Monday Night from Sundays
and Mondays. They got done a lot of different things,
but because of that, they were done getting bashed every
single Tuesday morning when they would come out and they
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would see what people are saying are saying Monday Night.
So that's why they said, let's go big game hunting.
We're gonna get Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, and that's it.
Now we're done. Now we're done, and I'm done having
to put band aids on Monday Night Football and people
worry about what Brian Greasy and Steve lee V and
everybody else is saying, whether Jason Witten was apropotigal one
or not. I'm done with that. If not for social media,
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this doesn't happen. Yeah, I mean, I think there's also
just that push to to elevate Monday Night football back
to where it once was and the pantheon. Right, it's
a standalone game, but it did have the same weight. No,
I mean you and I were clamoring to find out
what the Mannings had to say when they had random
interviews and whether they got someone to say something outrageous.
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But the broadcast itself is functional and they did the job.
And I mean we didn't watch it enough obviously because
we're on air. But Levy and Greasy and no, Brian
Greasy's worked for years and and and Riddick. I mean, look,
Riddick's a guy that you have talked about him being
in a front office at some point, and Greasy went
to to be a coach up in San Francisco. So
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clearly the acumen is there. Now you're just looking at
how do you elevate the game towards Monday night viewing
to the same level. And that's not to say that
the ratings suffered, because look, the NFL is ing, but
you know, when you're trying to attract advertisers and sponsors
and curry the favor of the NFL, when they're starting
to do their scheduling algorithm to make sure some of
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the games that might have been going on Thursday night
could end up in that Monday night window instead. It
doesn't hurt to have Buck and Aikman, guys who when
you've seen them all these years, you know it's a
game of consequence on the schedule that Sunday and that
Fox that assigned their number one squad. So the same
thing here. Try to get in there, shake hands, kiss babies,
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and it's part of the big salaries, but also the
big play to put them in the booth. And yes,
social media will hate them and Joe Buck will make
fun of it at every turn Twitter. And how about
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where we may only be three hours away from Lebron
James passing up the game winning shot against the Wizards.
The excitement. What a Friday night to look forward to. Yes,
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big night in the NBA. Look, big day, Big day
as well in college basketball as we get closer and
closer to selection Sunday. Right now, clearly, and this is
to percent, clearly, Uh, there is one team that can
stop John Morant. That is the New York Knicks. The
Knicks lead by ten going to the fourth quarter. Julius
Randall has thirty John Morant as minus four team. So
(01:12):
clear the Knicks are the kryptonite. The best players can't
beat the Knicks. Mike Harmon. This is just how it goes.
Still twelve minutes of basketball to be played. He just
it's over now. They just ended the game third quarter.
That's it right there. Yeah, it's gonna throw the damn towel.
That's what we're talking about here. Look, great effort by
the Knicks thus far, as much as I hate to,
(01:32):
you know, feed into your nonsense to start a Friday
Night Nicks Knicks, Nicks, Nicks. But Julius Randall has thirty,
Barret has one, Robinson needs to and then you'll have
all five starters and double figures. I mean, that's a
pretty big deal. When John Morant just nine of twenty two. Yeah,
look at that, and look at the Knicks say, hey,
(01:53):
we may wait until it's too late, but then we
really start playing. That's the Knicks just needed all the
pressure off them and for people to not believe even
then they start playing. Well, it's all I needed Julius
Randall in particular, you know, and he took all that personally.
Do we have any chance to win? No? Our seasons cooked? Okay,
now I play all right, now, try to stop me.
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He had ten against the Clippers in his twenty nine minutes.
And then forty six, then twenty six, and right now
thirty with twelve minutes of glorious basketball to be played.
So we'll keep you updated on the night that is
in the NBA, and again Lebron and the Wizards are
about a half hour away, and just can't wait to
see Lebron dribble underneath the hoop and pass out and
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pass up on a game winning shot. It's gonna be awesome, awesome, awesome.
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and football story that has kind of shook the world.
A grand jury on Friday declining to indict Texans quarterback
to Shaun Watson. This follows the big police investigation sparked
by lawsuits that were filed by twenty two women who
accused him of harassment and sexual assault. UH evidence and
testimony was presented to the grand jury for six hours
on Friday. Deshaun Watson didn't testify he took the Fifth
(03:21):
Amendment and it didn't matter. The grand jury, uh rejected
all nine cases that were presented to them. Prosecutors did
not present the tenth. And there's so many big takeaways
from this answer, and you know, and the first one,
and and this is what what I come to all
all the time, you know, because we like to sit
here and play you know, lawyers on the radio and
(03:42):
on TV and think this is what a day looks like.
And there's times when you see a big court case
going and you think, this is a good day for
the prosecution, this is a good day for the defense.
But today underscores just how much really none of us
understand the law unless you do it for a living.
None of us do. Because you you've seen the story
for the better part of the past year. Here's twenty
(04:03):
two women who have filed lawsuits against him. Prosecutors presented
nine of the cases today, nine of them, and the
grand jury rejected all of them. When and I never
thought that was gonna happen. They reject all of them.
This is what's And now suddenly the conversation is gonna
turn to Deshaun Watson, his NFL future. What about what what,
what's next? Everything changed today. I never thought this was
(04:26):
gonna be the result today, and it happened so fast.
He took he took the Fifth Amendment. I said, this
is gonna go all weekend. They're gonna present cases. Nope, Nope, nope, nope, nope.
And and to see this was very shocking. And I
actually talked to Amy Dash, you know who we have
on the show all the time, sports attorney and an adviser,
and she said, you know, when I looked at the
when I got a chance to look at the evidence,
I had a feeling. I saw, this is gonna be
(04:47):
difficult to prove, you know, because there there was text
messages and there's different things that the that the uh
prosecution presented. But I said, I thought it was going
to be difficult to prove. And I'm saying to myself, Wow,
we have all the text messages, we have X, Y
and Z and all these we have all these women
and this is still not It didn't happen, none of it.
And I was just not because I thought one way
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or the other. And I'm saying guilty, guilty, guilty, or no,
let them go, let him go, to them go, just
judging by how this story was going, Mike, I'm like, Okay,
well I can tell what's gonna happen is there's gonna
be some kind of indictment. He's gonna have to go
through this, and now there's none. And it really underscores
just what what what happens and what the truth and
and and what and what it is is underscored by
what you can prove and what the law is about,
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and and realized I know absolutely nothing about as much
as I want to pretend I do. And I think
I'd be good in front of a jury because I
give that Tom Cruise a few good men's speech, and
I'm good with a bunch of people in a box
in front of me going hey, look at me. I'm
the kid. I'm gonna talk because I talk for a living.
But the the minutia of the law is something that
is just it's like the solar system. I can't imagine
how big it is and how many things you have
(05:51):
to go through and just what what I and and
general you know, in general, the public just don't understand
about the law and how it works and how we
get certain decisions that we do. Yeah, I mean there's
always just that question of where the gaps between what
you think and what the the law is right in
in the gap between an indictment to all right, let's
(06:14):
proceed with charges and all of that, you know, trying
to make sense of it all because you know, we
we've always heard the phrasing and many a movie and
television show has said it, well, you can indict a
ham sandwich. And if you look at it from a
straight uh definition of getting an indictment, Yeah, it's it's
(06:37):
it's pretty nebulous, right, it's all right, witnesses whatever. Okay,
there's enough to move forward. And then it's that gap
right as to how big that is and how you
narrow it. And you know, Rusty Harden, you know, has
been a high profile lawyer for a long time. Uh
So you know, you get it's like, you know, any
anything right, you're gonna pay a big price. Then they
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know the law and they know where the gaps are
and everything. And for Deshaun Watson and you know, the
team that was assembled here, you know, it's certainly I
know insiders tweeting out about it got raped over the
coals based on word choice and verbiage and uh, insensitivity.
(07:21):
It's hard, right because what comes out of this, Uh,
for a lot of folks like all right, it's exoneration
and move forward like well, not not so fast, not
so fast from a criminal side. That's where we are.
But I agree with you. I mean, I debated going
to law school a long time ago. Uh, and I
left it when as soon as like, yeah, you're gonna
need to be able to memorize every book on that wall.
(07:43):
But I did pretty well with sports movies and and
song lyrics. But I don't know that I'm going to
remember all these cases precedents and whatever else. And you know,
spending a number of years as a researcher and trying
to gain those skills did not appeal to me, so
I have gone from it. But are they picture books?
Are they books? Do they tell me when sleeping beauty falls?
(08:06):
Sleep brighter than that? I mean, I know the perception
of sports talk radio focus that we're we're all a
bunch of sweatpants wearing guys who never got out of
the fifth grade. I mean, that's that. It's not true.
It's not true. I'll show you, I'll tell you about
all those things. But screw you for saying, guys wearing sweatpants,
(08:27):
what's wrong with wearing sweatpants? Man? Was it was? It
was not an or statement. It was an an statement.
This and this and this, and it comes back to
they're not educated and they're just yelling into a microphone. Uh,
most folks will tell you in two minutes, I could
do your job. Is that the defendant? No, that's the
lawyer in in sweatpants and a T shirt and a
(08:48):
Mets hat. Yeah, that's the lawyer. Believe it or not. Hey,
you know what, if you know the law and you
can convince the judge that you need that's a good
thinking cap that should be allowed because of some something
in your life. There you know that it makes you
a better lawyer. It isn't connected to someone outside the
courtroom feeding you information. Then then why not Mr Smith?
(09:12):
You need sleeves on in my courtroom? You need sleeves. Yeah,
but I move around better, you know you need sleeves.
I like to make wild gestures with my arms, and
I find dress shirts, ties and suit coach restricting. But
your honor sons out guns out aspite defense. I mean,
that's that's that's critical to everything I'm going to say
(09:32):
you're taking that away from me, I file a rid
of habeas corpus against you right now. See, now we're
getting into the RITZ, I can file a rid of
habeas corpus. I think you just wanted to say that. Yeah,
I kind of did. I guess I kind of did.
You know? Rit of habeas corps corpus recourse and law
through which a person can report an unlawful detention or
(09:54):
imprisonment to a court and request that the court order
the custodian of the person, usually a prison official, to
bring the prisoner to court. Yeah, okay, to determine whether
the detention is lawful. See, I don't think anybody really
knows what that means. I could file that. They wouldn't
know that well, but that's just it. Like Waite, who's
being detained. I think I thought you were gonna get
(10:14):
me for contempt for not wearing sleeves. So this was
a preemptive act on my part, your hunter. You know what?
What what if I just went and decided to to
object why and I would say, like, uh, you know,
Harmon versus Frostburg that this is not allowed in the
core law, and that would just make stuff up and
they would go, where's the precedent for that? I would say,
how you couldn't find that? All the different law things
(10:36):
that happened, they couldn't find harmon versus that building burned out.
It was in a small town in the northwest Indiana.
I mean, what are you gonna do? I mean, there's
no they couldn't find tie shirt versus Whole Foods two
thousand and seventeen when he got some bad keene. I mean,
I'm just kidding out of the microfiche burned and what
can I do? I would just make stuff. I'd completely
(10:57):
make stuff up right now, speaking of that now before
we get because we we have the part of the
Deshaun Watson story. Uh that what's next for him and
moving on, which we're gonna get to you in a
few minutes. But this is something that I really am
surprised because you know, I told you I talked to
Amy dash Day. I did an interview with her for
his League of Justice dot com just dot com website.
(11:17):
We talked about Deshaun Watson, and one of the things
she said to me was, you know, she gave me
some free legal advices. Okay, what's that? She said? Never
have your case be hurd on a Friday. And I said,
why she goes because you think of all these things
that go into a case, and these are people's lives
and this is this is big money, and it's reputation
(11:39):
and it's it's it's stress, and it's all of these
things going on. And you have jurors who may decide
one thing just because they want to go home because
you know what, I've been away from my family and
I'm done. I want to go home and have dinner.
She goes, it's it's it happens. I said, you're kidding.
She goes, it does. And you think everything that's at
steak steak, you think everything that's at stake, and still
(11:59):
this happened where people decide when and you're stunned by
the decision and it doesn't seem like it's And she's
not talking about this this case, she's just saying Friday
in general, crazy things can happen, and things that get
that that are a surprising occur because of that, because
people just decide. You know, I've been here all week,
I'm done, i haven't seen my family. My daughter had
(12:19):
to recital last night. I couldn't go to we had
a game. I mean, I'm ready to go home. What
are we doing so I can get done at five o'clock.
Let's get done. Let's get done. I'm done. And that happens,
and that and that you think about how shocking that
is when all the money and all the time and
effort that goes into one case versus the next, and
people's lives in the balance, And yeah, I really want
to go home. Enought dinner, so I'm ready to go. Let'
let's just vote we're done. Well. But but that's the
(12:40):
thing though, right, you know, think about how hard it
is men and everybody out there. Uh, there's a good
percentage of you that have kind of chucked the jury
notice in your mailbox to the side right that you've
been selected for jury duty, or you've called to try
to get it pushed back, citing any number of excuses,
(13:01):
and then you go and you sit and you wait patiently, wishing, wanting,
hoping that your number is not called that day, and
they basically just say, all right, that's it, we don't
have any more cases. You're done. I mean, there there's
a million things, but when you actually get on a jury.
I've had family members that have been part of it.
Um me me with uh, you know, my dad, having
been a law enforcement officer in Chicago, Normally I got
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one side or the other that's vigorously shaking their next
to the point of whiplash, telling no, that guy can't
be here because you know what discussions I might have
had with my dad. But those that have sat on juries, Yeah,
there's always at least one or two people. Uh. And
and perhaps in over generalization, I mean, I'm not saying
(13:44):
they don't take it seriously, but there's also considerations of
their lives, their time, because as much as it may
be a huge case to the defendant, to the plaintiffs,
and in this case a lot of plaintiffs, once they're
out of that jury room, it doesn't matter to them anymore, right,
I mean, at least for some folks for something, they're
(14:05):
gonna carry it one way or another based on what
they've heard, what they've seen, and everything going forward. But yeah,
it's human nature, right, self interest. Uh, sometimes it's gonna
rule the day, and certainly on a Friday, I can
see where any deliberations get shortened by a couple of
folks being aggressive about the weekend ahead. We're gonna be
(14:25):
here till ten o'clock. Now, my wife made strawberry ice cream.
I'm done, I've been I'm ready to go. Here's my vote.
What do you guys want to vote? Let's all vote. Let'
let's vote. Let's vote. I can I could be home
in a half hour. I can vote. Let's vote right now.
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and then that team is going to have to move
their quarterback. Where is it? We'll tell you coming up
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been great in baseball. We'll get to Deshaun Watson a second.
It's been a big day in baseball. We do the signings.
We're gonna start happening fast and furious. Clayton Kershaw's going
back to the Dodgers for one year and seventeen million.
And I know, Mike, you and I are both really
excited our teams getting in the mix now. And hey,
you know, look, you know we talk a lot about
the Mets here, you know, and obviously you know what happens.
(17:05):
But I'm excited about your White Sox man, that pitching
staff they're gonna bring back this year, and Rodon coming
off that ear he had a year ago. You're gonna
have some kind of season this year. Unfortunately, Oh, Carlos
left us jerk? Did I know the setup? Wait? Did
you get a blank bomb off? You turn your mic offs?
(17:27):
You could say blank you and then turn your mic
on and start talking. Probably I'm not gonna disavow it. Yeah, jerk,
that's one of my favorite guys. Because the thing is like,
there are players that that you like because of their
performance on the field, and Carlos has given Yeah, I mean,
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Carlos has certainly given White Sox fans and baseball fans
a lot of thrills as a member of the team.
But he and his wife Ashley huge in interacting with
White Sox fans and and questions and answers and you know,
making them, you know, family more or less. So the
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announcement today two years forty four to the Giants is like,
all right, well that sucks, and he's had injury issues
and and got blessing at twenty two million dollars. You
take the short term deal, Uh, do the prove it
and then in a couple of years you're back at
it again. But yeah, that's a huge loss for them,
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not only uh, in the in the rotation, but in
that clubhouse, no question about it. Yeah. So and look,
Freddie Freeman supposedly deciding on his team could be the Yankees,
could be the Dodgers. And if Frostburg sends me that
damn photo shop one more time. All right, but man,
at least give credit to the guy the artists who
put that together, because I know you didn't do it.
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You weren't in your pro create doing that. It all happening.
Uh so a lot more baseball and who knows. Look, look,
the Mets could make some big moves, big trains before
the night's over each. I mean they argue that about
to send the luxury tax or whatever. Why because they
want to spend money. Well, they want to be penalized. Yeah,
well that's just sometimes when all you have is to
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be able to spend money, you need to be able
to do that. Like it's a bad thing. Nobody else
wants to go to New York. How do we do it?
We just overbid everybody. Well, okay, then that's gonna get
me to New York and get me to the bets.
That's a big advantage we need to have. That we need.
If we can't spend, we can't compete. We got to
spend in every walk of life, no matter what you
do for a living. All you out there wherever you're listening,
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thanks for being part of the family here, whether you
finished the day and you're raising a glass, or whether
you're on the road or in the office or wherever
you're working and listening to us. We appreciate you. But
you understand it. You have to take advantage of whatever
little sliver that you got over your competition, whether it's
the people in the building, outside the building, you've got
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your independent contractor so proprietor whatever it is, you're trying
to find your edge. And for the Mets, all it
is is my owner goes on Twitter and he's got
a big checkbook. So take advantage of those. That's what
you have to do. Hey, but what aren't you a destination? No?
Don't people really want to go play there? No? Why
would they? What's your highly off destination? I gotta check,
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you know it's But but that's the whole thing, is
that boy? You know I I don't know if we're
gonna win there, though, that's true. I don't know. Are
you set up to win long term? No, that's a
good question. Do you have a great atmosphere around the
ball club? Now that's a big question too. So why
should we come there? You tell me what's your highest
offer right now? Well, we're getting three years and sixty million.
How about three years and ninety million. I'm a met
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met smets met smets met smet smet met semets. That's
how it has to go. That's how it works. That's
that's not that's not a bad way to be. Uh.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. So we talked about Deshaun Watson
this situation at the beginning of the show. And now
that it looks like his criminal aspect of it is cleared,
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he's going to have to deal with the civil version
of the case, the women who have brought charges against him.
But now, this was the big hurdle, This was the
big hurdle that the Texans had to get past in
order to be able to trade him. And now, look,
he's a quarterback in the NFL, regardless of what hanging
is hanging over him, and this is a big domino
coming up to follow in the off season. And while
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it would be hard for me to root for my
team right now getting DeShawn Watson, look, he's he's still
a great quarterback and he's gonna likely be allowed to
play in the NFL. Could there be some kind of discipline? Yeah,
you might get that from the NFL, but he's going
to be able to resume his career with no criminal
charges filed against him. Where's he gonna wind up? And
(21:41):
that's been a big topic over the course of the
past three or four hours because you've heard the names
of some of the teams that are involved, and and
then you hear once in a while there's a mystery team.
Now there's no mystery team that's gonna get involved. For
Deshaun Watson, it's not gonna happen. It's just gonna be
like we heard for Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, there's
gonna be a couple of teams that want them and
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it's gonna and the same thing with Russell Wilson. There's
a couple of teams that want to trade for a
quarterback that are gonna give you everything you need to
go get that quarterback. And for Watson, I have a
hard time believing he's gonna end up anywhere but Philadelphia.
The entire duration of the saga with DeShawn Watson, Philadelphia
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has been there. They've been on the periphery, they've been
at the middle of it. We had the report in
the middle of the NFL season that the Eagles supposedly
were close to pulling the trigger on a deal for him,
It's well, oh wait, really, this is wait what what what?
And obviously nothing's gonna happen. While no one knew how
his legal case was gonna end up, but you knew
that the interest was there, and the the believing in
(22:42):
in in Jalen Hurts was kind to there. And as
time went on and they didn't look like they were
gonna get Deshaun Watson. Right now, we're in on Jalen Hurts.
But Philadelphia has always been around Watson. It's it's it's
that that that player that they just for whatever reason,
that's the guy they want. And and it's it's a
difficult um needle to thread to try to make this
(23:04):
happen because you have to tell your fan base it's
okay to get this guy. There's lots of things that
have to happen, but Philadelphia, they've been the team all along,
and so I I would find it hard to believe
that he's gonna wind up anywhere but there, because they
had the impetus to get a deal done a few
months ago, and for the last few months, are they
really gonna be outbid by another team. Is someone else
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that we haven't even been talking about gonna come in
over the top and say no, we want to Shaun
Watson to come in. I I don't see that. It's
about relationships. It's about DeShawn Watson knowing the Eagles want him.
They're gonna put him into position to succeed in the
NFC East, which is a really craptastic division. So that's
kind of if he winds up somewhere other than Philadelphia, Mike,
I'll be pretty surprised. Yeah. I think there's a couple
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of teams where it makes sense. And you've heard the
whispers and rumblings, and you know folks that want to
go to tie shirt squad there in Cleveland's like get
rid of Baker Mayfield. Okay, there's a couple of things
with that. One does does Houston necessarily want him? How
much better is he than what Davis Mills showed you
last year? At Davis Mills cost you nothing at this point, right,
(24:11):
are you gonna bring Baker and saying I can fix
him and he's going to be the guy? The answer, Uh,
probably not um. But one thing that looms in all
of this right, and I know some folks are uneasy
with it. Getting back to football talk. Look, we are
a sports talk radio show. Uh. And based on that
hurdle of criminal charges being pushed away and now it's
(24:33):
civil and league suspension, which will come. Right, They've suspended
guys for much less, uh in terms of news and
information and charges around a guy. But you know, Carolina
is a possibility. But I think the background has started
to say and derailed myself, is that he's got in
(24:55):
full no trade clause. When we were talking with Softie
the other day, he's like, yeah, there's like six eight guys.
He's one of those guys. So you've got to make
it to where he wants to go. And you're you're
looking at well, can you pair it up? Carolina. There's
been talk that they would be willing to get rid
of McCaffrey. Well, if that's the case, is Deshaun Watson
going to go there? If McCaffrey is gonna be gone
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or if he has to be included in a deal
coming back? Uh? Does does that mute uh any desire
to be part of that? Because like Sam Donald is
what he is. They have a firsty have the sixth overall,
but they have no second or third round pick, So
you're gonna be going into multiple number ones, which you
were gonna do anyway, But how how far do you stretch?
It is gonna be like the Lakers. Their next first
(25:39):
round pick comes in Y eight, might be the case um,
and then after by the time it's all a sudden,
they might not pick till they may not pick till
Bobby Bennie has done getting paid by the Mets. That's
a good point. And then obviously you know the other
team is Seattle. Everybody tries to immediately connect the dots,
but do they have the draft cab pittal or players
(26:01):
that they can send back. No, they don't, So it's
it's going to limit the number of suitors. I've seen
Tampa Bay thrown out there. Uh, And it's just all right.
If you don't have an a list quarterback, it's all right,
how do we time? It's like, oh, at a he
want has to want to go there, and Tampa he
could actually be attracted to. But again, do you have
the assets to to send back to go get him?
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And then you have the obvious pull back of the
question of Organizationally, as much as you love the player,
do you do you dive right in right. That's the
other part in all of this is the the player
versus what is there and getting to the truth of
the matter. Again, just because there weren't criminal charges doesn't
(26:45):
mean there's still not other stuff that has to be
pushed through and cleaned up and a league suspensions. So
and then you're dealing with your your shareholders, I your
season ticket holds, your sweetholders, you're advertising and business partners.
There's a lot of hoops that you have to make
(27:05):
sure you've done your your due diligence. That's why probably
Philly jumps to that to the head as you said,
and Caroline, is that, you know the pipe dream just
because of the the desire that they had Matt Rule
and company going to last year. I mean, I don't
see some surprise out of the blue here the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon. Now, it's when you say
(27:27):
that and you mentioned the Seahawks. See this is how
I think it's going to go. You mentioned Davis Mills,
who had a really good end of the season live.
I don't think people understand how well he played the
end of the year last year. If you say we'll
take back Jalen Hurts, is that gonna help you? Do
you really want to have a Jalen Hurts versus Davis
Mills quarterback derby or do you want to have Davis
(27:47):
Mills play and you draft somebody because if Mills isn't
for real, then you have your next quarterback. I don't
see that happen. I don't see the Eagles turning around
and sending Jalen Hurts back to the Texans. What I
do see is the team that's got the draft capital
that won't have to send a lot because look at
there there, you know it's it's gonna be a buyer's
market for Jalen Hurts. That's where I see him ending
(28:09):
up is Seattle. I see Jalen Hurts getting to the Seahawks,
and they're gonna gonna get a first round pick, most
likely for him, which the Eagles can give up because
which the Seahawks and because they just got a boatload
of picks from the from the Broncos, they got two
first two seconds. Uh, and now you can grab yourself
a quarterback who was pretty good last year, who you
don't have to change the offense. For that much. Russell
Wilson like to run around a lot in the pocket.
(28:30):
Jalen Hurts likes to run around a lot in the pocket. Okay,
you can take advantage of that skill set. And Jalen
Hurts is a pretty good quarterback. So I can see
the Seahawks trying to reload by getting a guy who's
gonna be on a second round deal for another couple
of years, and all that money you've freed up with
Wilson the draft picks, you can potentially remake the team
even faster because if you make the trade for DeShawn Watson,
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guess what you're paying them, right and now, so all
the money we had, we gotta fix the rest of
the team. Now, you can't really do that. But when
Jalen hurts On on a set can round contract, which
is not even the end of a rookie year first
round contract eighteen million dollars, you can really take that
team and make it into a competitive team in the
most loaded division in the NFL. So if I could
play connect the dots here Philadelphia, because they've had the
(29:15):
interest into Shawn Watson all along, and then the and
then the Seahawks swooping in and saying, Okay, we'll take
Jalen Hurts. Here's a first round pick. And the Eagles
are like, great, we got to Shawn Watson. We traded
first round picks, whatever we had to give up for him.
We just got one back, and we got our quarterback
for the next ten years. And the and the Seahawks say,
we got our guy now, maybe for the next ten years,
but if not, we were able to spend money around
(29:37):
and we can draft a quarterback and try to replace him.
That's where I see Jalen Hurts wind up winding up
at the end. It's not a not a bad move.
I'd be curious to see, you know, based on need
of of where they're at. Seattle's obviously you've got a
couple of wide receivers and then a lot of question marks.
Right resigning Rashad Penny for what the market is gonna
(29:57):
command for him, are you trusting that he's staying healthy
to be your guy? Uh? In terms of giving up
the cash capital, But yeah, I mean, the the trade
to cover for what you did with Jamal Adams does
give you some flexibility, just a matter of whether you
want to go all in on. I mean it's not
a full rebuild. But obviously in Philadelphia the question of hurts.
(30:20):
I like Hurts, I think more than most. But he
goes again to a shoddy offensive line. But at least
has two weapons. Uh that you can do the Joe
Burrow just fling it up and let him make plays philosophy,
so you can at least work with that. Be sure
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Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harman. Keep scaring me. Uh,
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Lakers underway against the Wizards, Kuzma, k c P back
the crypt. Look, how great is this? But big NFL
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news today outside of Deshaun Watson, and that is that, Uh,
Troy Aikman and Joe Buck are gonna be reunited on
Monday Night Football with ESPN. So I've heard the last
broadcast and Troy Aikman and Joe Buck my my life.
Yes you you yeah, We're gonna be doing this, knock Wood.
(31:28):
I don't know the next time we'll hear their voices.
But um, because I told you I was really coming
around to traitman, always using the last few words of
the sentence before in his answer. He's good active listening.
You know. It's like you said, hey, Troy, did did
you see something really wrong on this play? Yeah? You
know there was something really wrong on this play? And
then he'll go into it. He does that all the
time you talked to Carol. He was really concerned about
(31:49):
this game. Yeah, Pete Carroll was really concerned about this game.
And that I love when Troy does that, Oh absolutely.
But he's become far more critical as he's gotten further
away from the game, and he and Buck uh, there's
a lot of snark. And look when when they didn't
let him do that Cowboys game, he was pissed. Yeah,
now now I'll get to do it when the Cowboys
on Monday Night Football. We get to do the Cowboys. Well,
(32:09):
you're gonna get better games on Monday Night Football. I
can tell you that, Yeah, he'll He'll also I get
to watch the games on Sunday when he's get to
watch the Cowboys on set, doesn't get to the ship
right now, I'll get to watch the Cowboys. But this
is a big move right, and you're gonna starting to
see names go all over the place. Where is Al
Michael's gonna wind up? He could be the guy without
a seat, Mike to Rico's gonna take over Sunday night
(32:30):
play by play duties and Kirk Herb Streets going to
Amazon on Thursday nights. It's been a big musical chairs.
Why did this happen? Why did ESPN pay so much
money for Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. They would not
have done this if not for social media. ESPN is
a company, and some companies do. They take so much
stock in what people say on social media Twitter and
(32:54):
and Instagram. And they were just done with every week
people ripping the broadcast booth at Monday night football had
no matter what it was. They were done seeing Steve
Levy trend because he said a name wrong or he
in in the course of three and a half hours,
Uh he misidentified a players uncle or something. And this
(33:16):
is the way it is. Right. It was with with
the booker McFarland booth when it was what is going
on and all that, and now so they went to
a new booth and now ESPNS finally said, you know
what's screw it, Let's pay all kinds of millions of
dollars so no one's gonna criticize us. And every time
we see Troy Aquan trending, people are gonna disagree with
what he says, but no one can impeaches his football
skill and his acumen. They made this move strictly because
(33:40):
they were done with every night and every day after
and reading all the columns they do on the East
Coast websites and sports pages about how all ESPNS broadcast
booth from Monday night football is embarrassing. They don't have
the good enough guys, and the broadcast is fine. Everything
was fine. You could put good broadcasters out there. People
are gonna, hey and watch what happens with Joe Buck
(34:01):
and Troyckman now that they're at ESPN. You thought at
the Fox people said, way do you see now what
happens at ESPN with ESPN B in the evil sports
empire that it is? Way do you see what people
say about Joe Buck and Troy Aikman now on Monday
night football? Good luck? Uh. This would not have been
done if not for the fact that they were so
sick and tired of every time we put on on
a show, people get mad and there's an overwhelming react,
(34:24):
even though Twitter is just Twitter, but people take it
so seriously. Man, if that wasn't the case, they would
have stuck with their initial broadcast booth. They could have
they could have kept Joe Fisman on the air doing
Monday Night football, put them on Monday Night from Sundays
and Mondays. They got done a lot of different things,
but because of that, they were done getting bashed every
single Tuesday morning when they would come out and they
(34:45):
would see what people are saying are saying Monday Night.
So that's why they said, let's go big game hunting.
We're gonna get Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, and that's it.
Now we're done. Now we're done, and I'm done having
to put band aids on Monday Night Football and people
worry about what Brian Greasy and Steve lee V and
everybody else is saying, whether Jason Witten was apropotigal one
or not. I'm done with that. If not for social media,
(35:06):
this doesn't happen. Yeah, I mean, I think there's also
just that push to to elevate Monday Night football back
to where it once was and the pantheon. Right, it's
a standalone game, but it did have the same weight. No,
I mean you and I were clamoring to find out
what the Mannings had to say when they had random
interviews and whether they got someone to say something outrageous.
(35:27):
But the broadcast itself is functional and they did the job.
And I mean we didn't watch it enough obviously because
we're on air. But Levy and Greasy and no, Brian
Greasy's worked for years and and and Riddick. I mean, look,
Riddick's a guy that you have talked about him being
in a front office at some point, and Greasy went
to to be a coach up in San Francisco. So
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clearly the acumen is there. Now you're just looking at
how do you elevate the game towards Monday night viewing
to the same level. And that's not to say that
the ratings suffered, because look, the NFL is ing, but
you know, when you're trying to attract advertisers and sponsors
and curry the favor of the NFL, when they're starting
to do their scheduling algorithm to make sure some of
(36:11):
the games that might have been going on Thursday night
could end up in that Monday night window instead. It
doesn't hurt to have Buck and Aikman, guys who when
you've seen them all these years, you know it's a
game of consequence on the schedule that Sunday and that
Fox that assigned their number one squad. So the same
thing here. Try to get in there, shake hands, kiss babies,
(36:33):
and it's part of the big salaries, but also the
big play to put them in the booth. And yes,
social media will hate them and Joe Buck will make
fun of it at every turn Twitter. And how about
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