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Jason and Mike react to the news surrounding Deshaun Watson, and discuss whether or not he will play this season and where he will end up. NFL Analyst Jason Cole joins the show to diswcuss Deshaun Watson, Calvin Ridley, Khalil Mack and other NFL news. Plus, the guys react to Gregg Popovich breaking Don Nelson's winning record.

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Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Greetings and welcome inside The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmony, where we may only be three
hours away from Lebron James passing up the game winning
shot against the Wizards. The excitement. What a Friday night

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to look forward to. Yes, big night in the NBA.
Look big day, Big day as well in college basketball,
as we get closer and closer to selection Sunday. Right now, clearly,
and this is clearly, uh, there is one team that
can stop John Morant. That is the New York Knicks.
The Knicks lead by ten going to the fourth quarter.

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Julius Randall has thirty John Morant is minus four teen,
So clear the Knicks are the kryptonite. The best players
can't beat the Knicks. Mike Harmon, this is just how
it goes. Still, twelve minutes of basketball to be played.
He just it's over now. They just ended the game
third quarters. That's right there. Yeah, it's gonna be Throw
the damn towel. That's what we're talking about here. Look,

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great effort by the Knicks thus far, as much as
I hate to, you know, feed into your nonsense to
start a Friday Night Nicks Knicks, Knicks Knicks. But Julius
Randall has thirty, Bar has one, Robinson needs to and
then you'll have all five starters and double figures. I mean,
that's some pretty big deal. When John Morant just nine

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of twenty two. Yeah, look at that. Look at the
Knicks say, hey, we may wait until it's too late,
but then we really start playing. That's the Knicks just
needed all the pressure off them and for people to
not believe, and then they start playing. Well, it's all
it needed. Julius Randall in particular, you know, he took
all that personally. Do we have any chance to win? No?

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Our seasons cooked? Okay, now I play all right, now,
try to stop me. He had ten against the Clippers
in his twenty nine minutes, and then forty six, then
twenty six, and right now thirty with twelve minutes of
glorious basketball to be played. So we'll keep you updated

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on the night that is in the NBA and again
Lebron and the Wizards are about a half hour away,
and just can't wait to see Lebron dribble underneath the
hoop and pass out and pass up on a game
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Discover exceptionally common sense and today the quarterback and Football
store that has kind of shook the world. A grand
jury on Friday declining to indict Texans quarterback to Shaun Watson.
This follows the big police investigation sparked by lawsuits that
were filed by twenty two women who accused him of
harassment and sexual assault. UH evidence and testimony was presented

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to the grand jury for six hours on Friday, Deshaun
Watson didn't testify. He took the Fifth Amendment and it
didn't matter. The grand jury, uh rejected all nine cases
that were presented to them. Prosecutors did not present the tenth.
And there's so many big takeaways from this answer, and
you know, and the first one, and and this is

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what what I come to all all the time, you know,
because we like to sit here and play you know,
lawyers on the radio and on TV and think this
is what a day looks like. And there's times when
you see a big court case going and you think,
this is a good day for the prosecution, this is
a good day for the defense. But today underscores just
how much really none of us understand the law unless
you do it for a living. None of us do.

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Because you you you've seen this story for the better
part of the past year. Here's twenty two women who
have filed lawsuits against him. Prosecutors presented nine of the
cases today, nine of them, and the grand jury rejected
all of them. Well, and I never thought that was
gonna happen. They reject all of them. This is what's
and now suddenly the conversation is gonna turn to Deshaun Watson,

(04:20):
his NFL future, what about? What? What? What's next? Everything
changed today. I never thought this was gonna be the
result today, and it happened so fast. He took he
took the Fifth Amendment. I said, this is gonna go
all weekend. They're gonna present cases. Nope, Nope, nope, nope, nope.
And and to see this was very shocking. And I
actually talked to Amy Dash, you know who we have
on the show all the time, sports attorney and an adviser,

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and she said, you know, when I looked at the
when I got a chance to look at the evidence,
I had a feeling I saw this is gonna be
difficult to prove, you know, because there there was text
messages and there's different things that the that the UH
prosecution presented. But I said, I thought it was going
to be difficult to prove. And I'm saying to myself, Wow,
we have all the text messages, we have X, Y
and Z and all these we have all these women

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and this is still not It didn't happen, none of it.
And I was just not because I thought one way
or the other. And I'm saying guilty, guilty, guilty or no,
let them go, let him go to them go. Just
judging by how this story was going, Mike, I'm like, Okay,
well I can tell what's gonna happen is there's gonna
be some kind of indictment. He's gonna have to go
through this, and now there's none. And it really underscores
just what what what happens and what the truth and

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and and what and what it is is underscored by
what you can prove and what the law is about,
and and realized I know absolutely nothing about as much
as I want to pretend I do. And I think
I'd be good in front of a jury because I
give that Tom Cruise a few good men's speech, and
I'm good with a bunch of people in the box
in front of me going hey, look at me. I'm
the kid. I'm gonna talk because I talk for a living.
But the the minutia of the law is something that

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is just it's like the solar system. I can't imagine
how big it is and how many things you have
to go through and and just what what I and
and general you know, in general, the public just don't
understand about the law and how it were and how
we get certain decisions that we do. Yeah, I mean,
there's always just that question of where the gaps between
what you think and what the the law is right

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in in the gap between an indictment to all right,
let's proceed with charges and all of that, you know,
trying to make sense of it all because you know,
we we've always heard the phrasing and many a movie
and television show has said it, well, you can indict
a ham sandwich. And if you look at it from

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a straight uh definition of getting an indictment, yeah, it's
it's it's pretty nebulous, right, It's all right, witnesses whatever. Okay,
there's enough to move forward. And then it's that gap
right as to how big that is and how you
narrow it. And you know, Rusty Harden, you know, has
been a high profile lawyer for a long time. Uh

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So you know, you get it's like, you know, any
anything right, you're gonna pay a big price. Then they
know the law and they know where the gaps are
and everything. And for Deshaun Watson and you know the
team that was assembled here, you know, it's certainly I
know insiders tweeting out about it got raped over the

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coals based on word choice and verbiage and uh insensitivity.
It's hard, right because what comes out of this Uh
for a lot of folks like all right, it's exoneration
and move forward like well, not not so fast, not
so fast from a criminal side. That's where we are.
But I agree with you. I mean, I debated going

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to law school a long time ago, uh, and I
left it when as soon as like, yeah, you're gonna
need to be able to memorize every book on that wall.
But I did pretty well with sports movies and and
song lyrics. But I don't know that I'm going to
remember all these cases precedents and whatever else. And you know,
spending a number of years as a researcher and trying

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to gain those skills did not appeal to me, so
I moved on from it. But are they picture books?
Are they books? Do they tell me when sleeping beauty falls?
And sleep brighter than that? I mean, I know the
perception of sports talk radio focus that we're we're all
a bunch of sweatpants wearing guys who never got out

(08:18):
of the fifth grade. I mean, that's that. It's not true.
It's not true. I'll show you if I ask, I'll
tell you about all those things. But screw you for saying,
guys wearing sweatpants? What's wrong with wearing sweatpants? Man? Lay
was it was? It was not an or statement. It
was an an statement. This and this and this, and
it comes back to they're not educated and they're just

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yelling into a microphone. Uh. Most folks will tell you
in two minutes, I could do your job. Is that
the defendant? No, that's the lawyer in in sweatpants and
a T shirt and a Mets hat. Yeah, that's the lawyer.
Believe it or not. Hey, you know what, if you
know the law and you can convince the judge that
you need that's a good thinking cap that should be

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allowed because of some something in your life. There. You
know that it makes you a better lawyer. It isn't
connected to someone outside the courtroom feeding you information. Then
then why not Mr Smith? You need sleeves on in
my courtroom? You need sleeves? Yeah, but I move around better,
you know, No, you need sleeves. I like to make
wild gestures with my arms, and I find dress shirts,

(09:23):
ties and suit coach restricting. But your honor sons out
guns out as fite defense. I mean, that's that's that's
critical to everything. I'm going to say. You're taking that
away from me. I file a rid of habeas corpus
against you right now. See, now we're getting into the RITZ.
I can file a rid of habeas corpus. I think

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you just wanted to say that. Yeah, I kind of did.
I guess I kind of did. You know? Rit of
habeas corps corpus recourts and law through which a person
can report an unlawful detention or imprisonment to a court
and request that the court order the custodian of the person,
usually a prison official, to bring the prisoner to court. Yeah,

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to determine whether the detention is lawful. See, I don't
think anybody really knows what that means. I could file that.
They wouldn't know that. Well, that's just it, like white
who's being detained. I think I thought you were gonna
get me for contempt for not wearing sleeves. So this
was a preemptive act on my part. You're a hunter.
Well you know what, what what if I just went
and decided to to object, why and I would say, like, uh,

(10:26):
you know, harmon versus Frostburg that this is not allowed
in the core of law, and that would just make
stuff up, and they would go, where's the precedent for that?
I would say, how you couldn't find that all the
different law things that happened, They couldn't find harmon versus
that building burned down. It was in a small town
in the northwest Indiana. Any what are you gonna do?
I mean that they couldn't find tie shirt versus Whole

(10:49):
Foods two thousand and seventeen when he got some bad keene.
I mean, I'm just kidding out of the microfiche burned.
What can I do? I would just make stuff that,
I completely make stuff up right now, speaking of that
now before we get because we we have the part
of the Deshaun Watson story, uh that what's next for
him and moving on, which we're gonna get to in
a few minutes. But this is something that I really

(11:11):
am surprised because you know, I told you I talked
to Amy dash Day. I did an interview with her
for his League of Justice dot com just dot com website.
We talked about Deshaun Watson, and one of the things
she said to me was, you know, she gave me
some free legal advice. So, okay, what's that. She said,
never have your case be heard on a Friday. And
I said why She goes, because you think of all

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these things that go into a case, and these are
people's lives and this is this is big money, and
it's reputation and it's it's it's stress, and it's all
of these things going on. And you have jurors who
may decide one thing just because they want to go home,
because you know, I've been away from my family and
I'm done. I want to go home and have dinner.
She goes, it's it's it happens. I said, you're kidding.

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She goes, it does. And you think everything that's at
steak steak, you think everything that's at stake, and still
this happens where people decide what and and you're stunned
by the decision and it doesn't seem like it's And
she's not talking about this this case, she's just saying
Friday in general, crazy things can happen, and things that
get that that are a surprising occur because of that,

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because people just decide, you know, I've been here all week,
I'm done. I haven't seen my family. My daughter had
to recital last night. I couldn't go to we had
a game. I mean, I'm ready to go home. What
are we doing so I can get done at five o'clock.
Let's get done. Let's get done. I'm done. And that happens,
and that and that you think about how shocking that
is when all all the money and all the time
and effort that goes into one case versus the next,
and people's lives in the balance, And yeah, I really

(12:37):
want to go home andoft dinner, so I'm ready to
go whatever. Lets let's just vote We're done. Well. But
but that's the thing, though, right, you know, think about
how hard it is men and everybody out there. Uh,
there's a good percentage of you that have kind of
chucked the jury notice in your mailbox to the side
right that you've been selected for jury duty, or you've

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called to try to get it pushed back, citing any
number of excuses. And then you go and you sit
and you wait patiently, wishing, wanting, hoping that your number
is not called that day, and they basically just say,
all right, that's it, we don't have any more cases.
You're done. I mean, there's a million things, but when
you actually get on a jury, I've had family members
that have been part of it. Um me me with uh,

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you know, my dad having been a law enforcement officer
in Chicago. Normally I got one side or the other
that's vigorously shaking their next to the point of whiplash,
telling no, that guy can't be here because you know
what discussions I might have had with my dad. But
those that have sat on juries, yeah, there's always at
least one or two people. Uh. And and perhaps in

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over generalization, I mean, I'm not saying they don't take
it seriously, but there's also considerations of their lives, their time,
because as much as it may be a huge case
to the defendant, to the plaintiffs and in this case
a lot of plaintiffs, once they're out of that jury room,
it doesn't matter to them anymore. Right, I mean, at

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least for some folks for something, they're gonna carry it
one way or another based on what they've heard, what
they've seen, and everything going forward. But yeah, it's human nature, right,
self interest. Uh, sometimes it's going to rule the day.
And certainly on a Friday, I can see where any
deliberations get shortened by a couple of folks being aggressive
about the weekend ahead. We're gonna be here till ten o'clock. Now,

(14:27):
my wife made strawberry ice cream. I'm done, I've been.
I'm ready to go. Here's my vote. What do you
guys want to vote? Let's all vote. Let's let's vote.
Let's vote. I can I can be home in a
half hour. I can vote. Let's vote right now. Just
unbelievable illegal advice there from Amy dash Well. You can
follow on Twitter at Amy dash TV. Hey, I'm got.
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Slash match limitations they do apply. Let me take a
sip of my diet coke. So Deshaun Watson could be
back in the NFL any day now. There will be
no criminal charges against him after the results of today's

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court proceedings. So now we could see teams making a
move joining us. Now on the hotline, no one better
to talk to because no one else will pick up
the phone, no one better to talk to. It's been
a long time NFL Insider, Pro Football Hall of Fame voter.
You can follow him on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.

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It is Jason Cole, j Cale. What's happening? Man, loves
our Easy. I'm going to respond to all of your
tweets you have during the week right now with that
pretty much. Yeah, that is like the perfectest statement or
purpose for how I connect business. Yes, that's that's that's professional.

(16:47):
I dig the cut of your jib. The next year,
at the voting, when the voting is done in person
for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, I want you.
They say, Okay, who's up next? And I wanted to
stand up and say Icky, Icky, Jordan's love ZOI Z
and then sit down and just see what people do.
It's my send off every single time I vote. Just
I make my little speech. I talked for like two

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or three minutes about whatever it is that you know
the subject is at that pomment, and then I just
hit that. It's like, I'm out. I kind of like that.
It's a good new signature. People can sell T shirts
and everything. Who was that guy? What? What? What are you?
Jordan's love? Is he not even starting? It was that?
I really do. I gotta see if that would take

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off in the T shirt. I really I need that.
I need that so that Jason Cole was able to
buy the Marlins, that that shortan loved shirt take off. Man,
everybody in Green bayball on. Well, I'm thinking that Cowboy
Bees has a whole new meaning um this week. But

(17:53):
we'll get into that later. Aren't sure, Okay? Sure, sure
you you made Smith nervous. Just we don't even do
the impression right now, Ja Cole, he's nervous to do that. Charles,
it's Charleston. Just just shoot him, just shoot them, alright.

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So for real football before you devolve into it, Ikey
Jordan loves u after today is does the does the
Shawn Watson market heat up? Are you? Are you hearing
that many teams want to get in? Will be just
a couple of teams? What do you think? Answer? We're
waiting to get in before. I mean, they're all lined up,
they all want to They're going to get a minimum

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two first round picks, plus a bunch more than might
get three first round picks for the guy because at
this point, what's he gonna get? The standard was set
by Roethlisberger. Maybe he gets a little bit more because
you're talking about twenty two cases as opposed to Roethlisberger.
Roethlisberger was clearly really ugly right with even stronger accusations.

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But so if you use that as a benchmark of okay,
you got six hams that got rolled back to four.
Maybe okay, worst case this is eight games gets rolled
back to six. Are you willing to deal with that
for the chance to have Deshaun Watson as your quarterback
for the next text number of years. Of course, Okay,

(19:20):
you know what you know, like you just you take
him any deal with it. Now. There's gonna be some
ugliness and all that kind of stuff. But you know,
Philadelphia survived the Michael Vick thing. Uh, you know, they've
proved that teams can handle it. And again quarterback in
his mid twenties, who's by far the best guy available

(19:43):
at this point in time. I mean, it's a joke,
of course. See of course they do with the line lineup,
and I think Philadelphia is at the head of line
because they're looking and saying, we got three first round
picks this year in a draft where there's really no quarterback,
so it's almost worth the worth it for Philly to
trade all three of those picks this year just to

(20:05):
get him and get it over with at one time,
and then they get their first round picks going forward
later on. Like I would be I would do that.
I'm just not sure Houston would do that because they've
probably got to be looking at this and unless they
really believe in Davis Mills, they're like a lot of
other teams that are saying, hey, wait a second, the
two third team draft is the one we really want

(20:28):
to start to focus on for quarterbacks. Because he got
Stroud and he got bright Young. See that's why I
think that that Philadelphia is the destination. Like I think Philip,
they've been in it for the longest time to get him.
They'll pull the trigger to get him, and then I
I can see Seattle getting in the mix to get
Jalen Hurts to replace Russell Wilson. Hey, they're going to
get a first round draft pick back, most likely for

(20:50):
Jalen Hurts, and that's where Seattle goes and tries to.
Really I think Seattle, I'll be honest with you, I
think Seattle's playing a little longer game. I think they're saying,
we're going to redo this whole roster from top to bottom.
And I really believe that Pete's going to be gone
after this year. So I think they're like, they've already
picked up a first round pick next year. Why is

(21:12):
he staying for this year? Then? If he's gonna if
they're gonna if you think they're just gonna rebuild a
go what why is he why is he staying for that?
Who you're talking about Pete? I don't know. I don't
know he was supposed to stay here. I think look,
I think Pezza just cashing on this one. Like he
just said, Okay, you get guys giving a bunch of money,
I'll take another year's worth of check, and I'm not

(21:34):
gonna make it. I'm not gonna walk away right now.
But the word out of Seattle had been that if
Russell was going to go, he was going to go
to Now that has not happened yet. But then here's
gonna be seventy one. How much longer do you want
to do this, especially if you don't have a quarterback,
unless you're saying, Okay, we're gonna go get one of

(21:57):
those two guys Strout or Bryce Young. So we're going
to clear out the roster, get a third first round
pick next year, trade the number nine pick that we
just picked up in this last DRAF. We're going to
trade out of the first round this year to get
a first round pick next year. Um. Yeah, if Schneider
does that, maybe Carol says, Okay, I can get one
of these guys who's are ready made. Brece Young is

(22:19):
pretty pretty much ready made to go play and start
right away. Maybe he thinks he can turn it around
and three years. But yeah, boy, I got a lot
of admiration for Pete and energy he's got at his age.
That takes a lot of patients to want to grind
through that. I gotta say that I didn't have enough
energy to call Bobby Wagner to say goodbye. But that's

(22:41):
neither here nor there. You know, there's nap time, there's
nap time. But Russell Wilson goes away Denver. How how dangerous?
Well that was well done. That was moment from my pickup.
Well he didn't have the number saved in its phone. Yeah,
after all this time, Oh, Bobby Wagner, I don't show this.

(23:02):
That's not that's not my contact list. Someone had already
preemptively taken it out because he wasn't wasn't going to
need it anymore. I deleted I deleted Wagner. I meant
to delete Wilson. Oh, it's one's right above the other
in my phone. I can't believe I did that. I
deleted the wrong guy. Pete sending up messages new phone?

(23:23):
Who did so? How much better is Denver everybody, all right,
they're Super Bowl contenders, there are they? How about win
the division? First, Blu did think about that? You got
you got Mahomes, You've got h you got Herbert, Now

(23:47):
you got Wilson and Derek Carr, who's like, you know,
the closest things to the you know, the schmuck of
the Wheat Club in this one. I mean he's a
pretty good player, right, So that's a brutal division. I
love the arms race. I mean, like Denver goes out
and get Russell Wilson and it's like Sandya said, oh,
let's go get Khalil Mack and the readers are like, well,

(24:10):
let's pay like crazy to keep our guys. I mean,
it's Mason Crosby, just not Mason. What am I saying? Sorry?
Max Crossby cashes in like crazy, um, and I like
the chiefs are in deepnd von Miller, so they could
go get him. This thing, this thing could be a

(24:33):
wild race, but it's sorry to me, it becomes like
the NFL the NFC East back in the nineteen eighties,
where you've got all these super teams and whoever survives
that year ends up winning a title, or there's a
great team. We know you've got Philly the Giants one twice,
Washington won three times basically, and Dallas eventually came out

(24:56):
of that. Think wow, charge your super Bowl champion, Los
Angeles Charges. I'm trying to try it on to see
if that works. The super Bowl champion Chargers. That's tough one,
that's tough. It's pretty good. I would have to listen
to prospect with all of that, and then imagine how
happy Frostburg would be. It's almost like having to set

(25:17):
up a show for you guys on a Friday night
like that. It would make him almost that happy if
the Chargers actually won a Super Bowl. It's almost like
him like sending me a text every Friday afternoon, doing
are you ready to be on the show tonight? Yes,
I am already. Yes, super Bowl Champion Derek Carr and

(25:40):
I'm trying to try that one on too. That's and
that's another time. Josh McDaniels, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can
you releast can you realize and now I know he
has rings, but not in that position. That's a little
bit of a stretch, but it's all fun theater nonetheless. Uh,
And we're talking with Jon Cole of course at Jason

(26:01):
Coles sixty two joins a s each and every week
here on Fox Sports Radio the Jason Spit Show with
Mike Carmen, and earlier this week, you know, all these
stories and handwringing and everything, and Aaron Rodgers went down
with a whimper, just got a giant check. It's a
really disappointing end. Let's say we banned a guy for
an entire year, so we destroyed his career. Um, Aaron Rodgers,

(26:26):
you know, okay, oh yeah, I'm gonna end up going back.
You know, after teasing everybody that he might do something.
Russell Wilson blows up the world. You guys are carefully
dodging the elephant in the room. Oh no, that's the room.
Is it a bumble be in the room. It's not
quite an elephant. It's a bumble It's like cowboy bumble bee.
That's how we're gonna look at this one. Yes, um, yeah,

(26:48):
So we'll avoid that for a second. Now, we've got
to move along. We'll move along to other conversation. That's
how he's like, has not done a whole lot of press, no, no,
no interview. How remembering that thinking this week. Yeah, nothing
on nothing on the ticket, no, no, none of the
free agency conversations this week is just fine. Really, shall

(27:15):
you know? You know what I said? Okay, just to
tell you know what this sounds like. I mean, really
mean this is because you know, to here today, we
don't really know what the woman who wants to be
recognized as Jerry Jones's daughter wants, so we're still kind
of way fat. But this sounds like this is like
the plot of a of a family drama, like when
you get through, like you get through the first eight years,
and here's the guy who was in charge of the

(27:37):
big company and his kids are trying to jockey for
position to take over one day and they fight and
they make up and they scheme and they do all
these things, and then right around year eight, they go,
we got to introduce somebody else. How about a kid
that nobody knew that the patriarch had. Let's do that,
and that that becomes and that's year eight. Okay, and

(27:58):
now somebody didn't even know it comes in that. I mean,
that's kind of what this is. I just can't you
know what you know, what this really is. I'm sorry,
this is the Beverly Hillbillies neat boogie nights. That's what
this Okay, let's just call it what it really is. Okay,
that's what it is. And yeah, I said it. It's
a Friday night. You guys are in l A. You

(28:18):
know what I'm talking about. Does that make him Alfred
Molina with a little guy with the poppers? I mean,
what we what do we got going on? I'm only
going to go so far. You guys can carry the rest,
So I'm not going to carry it. We're not going
to right there. No, no, we're not going to Chatsworth.
It's just not happening. I gave you a TV drama comparison,

(28:41):
and that's what I did. That's that was my role,
right and I went to silver screen, baby, that's what
you did. Actually I went a little bit, a little bit,
I say, I went from I went from a little
screen to big screen. Okay, I went Beverly hill Bills
and yeah, all right, we're gone. Yeah, I mean they
did have with Jim barn and died bad. You don't

(29:01):
get a good Buddy Ebsen reference on the show every
now and again. You don't get that often. Max Bear Junior,
how old do you think the people listening to the
show are Jason Cole. I mean, really, what do you
what do you think they get it to a show
with under the age of listening to radio period? Okay,
you write a lot Billy's reference and I remember that.

(29:25):
I'm waiting for them to mention Donna Reid next. I mean, okay, whatever,
it still worked, you guys, she had a good show. Yeah,
and I laughed, we can go straight to Boogie Nights
if you want, you can. Was the better character? Was
it Lucy all Ball or Mary Tyler Moore? And I mean,
back for the Dick Van Dyke Show, it's a really

(29:49):
bad alistair cook. The fact that you're referencing Alista really yeah,
that's exactly I'm trying to stay in the right hero. Okay,
all right, well, let's let's go back to to the
to the last story that that started all when we
get to the the gambling the NFL. Really fortuitous that
all this other news popped forward, didn't it. Here's a trade,

(30:09):
here's a resigning, everything else. Calvin Ridley's back in our
distant memory at this point. Oh my god, that story
seems like it was like eight years ago. Calvin Ridley
Roger Goodell's like, all right, we're suspending him. What's Rogers
doing tomorrow morning? Okay, what's the will? The Wilson trade
is on tomorrow afternoon. Thank god rolled Jerry out there. So,

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I mean that was Monday. The Calvin Ridley story was Monday.
It seems like it was so long. I think a
suspension might be over. It was so long. I feel
like he's back in the league now. It's a time
warp um. No, Calvin Ridles just like he was like,

(30:57):
I've got a protest. Nobody's paying attention to me. What's happening?
My my complaints are over. Nobody cares anymore about me,
you know. And and he got wronged so badly in
this one. And look I know that, you know they
put post the rules all the time. And I was
talking to one X player he says, Look, if you

(31:19):
don't know about a year or two that you're not
allowed to do this, you are absolutely certifiably an idiot.
All of that set Okay, it's you know, this is
not Paul Horning and Alex Carris hanging out in bars
with gamblers. It's not like it's not arch Leyster getting

(31:40):
going seven hundred thousand dollars in debt. Think about that
k the gamblers, right, which is you know these things
had the potential to takedown of the league. This is
a player, by the way, placing bets with a league sponsor,

(32:01):
one of your partners while he's not playing. You could
have sent the same message with four or six games.
This is such a terrible overreaction by Rogers. But if
you play the strategy out, if this is he's establishing

(32:22):
what the benchmark is, so now that you can handle
with Stephen Ross if something goes wrong with that, and
then you can come back to Calvinryally later and say, oh,
we revisited this and now we'll peel back on your
suspension after we deal with Stephen Ross. I understand how
the domino has following this one, right, but that's to

(32:42):
be played out, and I don't you know, and we
still don't know if the Steven Ross thing is at
all true? You know what what is What is the
reality of Stephen Ross ordering Brian Flores to to throw games?
But I'll just say this, Um, I'm sure the NFL
is doing everything I can to find out what the
reality is about that. He's on Twitter at Jason Cole

(33:04):
sixty two. That is at Jason Cole sixty two Pro
Football Hall of Fame voter. At least for now, Ja
Cole is always buddy, appreciate your time. Man. Have a
great week. I think I ended that tonight with the
Boogie Nights reference. I think it is completely over. Yeah,
it might be. It may be you may you may
you stay back, both out of the Hall of Fame.
At the same trying to get the cowboys out. Yeah,

(33:26):
I've been trying and I just got myself out. Okaypula guys, Amen,
say you buddy, here it goes. Jason Cole. You never know,
you never know what you're gonna get seven hundred thousand worth,
two million, forty dollars right now. Man. Be sure to
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(33:47):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Welcome inside our three go ahead to Vegas
coming up in about twenty minutes. Find out who the
darlings are as we get into the end of championship
weekend here in college basketball and where some quarterbacks might
end up as the quarterback carousel goes. But uh, you know,

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it's it's it's kind of surprising because tonight we had
a big milestone. We had a big story out of
college basketball. Speaking that coming up in a couple of minutes,
but uh, it's been really weird that we had an
unbelievable milestone in sports tonight and really the last few days,
and nobody's cared about it. Tonight. It's not been a

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great season for the Spurs, hasn't been a great last
couple of years for the Spurs. However, Gregg Popovitch has
gotten into rarefied air with the Spurs win on Friday
nights and with tonight's win, Greg Popovitch has surpassed as
good friend Don Nelson with win number one thousand, three
hundred and sixty six, the most coaching wins in NBA history.

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Congratulations to Gregg Popovitch. As the Spurs had the feat
at the Utah Jazz the final score Spurs on Form
Jazz one O two, So there it is first radio
network on the call. Nobody has cared. This has been
a non story. It has been something that oh, Pop,
it's gonna have the most wins if this was the NFL.

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If if Andy Reid was on the cuts of becoming
the winning is coach, Bill Belichick is on the cusp
of the being the winning is coach. Ever, we are
going all over ourselves to try to hey, look at
this story, is he really the best? Who are the best?
But instead here's Greg about the winning his coach in
NBA history. Yeah, no, it doesn't matter. We don't Yeah,
we don't care. It's nice. Then that's nice for pop

(35:35):
That's great. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I look at it,
and I wonder on some level how much of it
And I dare say this and and risk angering folks
that when you get to uh a stat aggregation, it's
like how many titles you win? Right? And Pops don't
share a winning don't get me wrong, but like you

(35:55):
look at some of the other guys on the the
NBA list, like, all right, they won consistently and coached
for a long time, but were they dominant? You know?
It's like we do with you know, Hall of Fame
players and all time players, like, but were they the
most dominant? Right? Because you look at the other members

(36:16):
up there? One Popovich did this in three hundred sixty
eight fewer games, So that's four full seasons, almost almost
four and a half when it's all said and done
over Nelson, then Lenny Wilkins thirteen thirty two, Jerry Sloan one, Well,
we know he didn't get over with Utah, right, And
then you get to Pat Riley, then George carl and

(36:38):
then Phil Jackson, your guy, Larry Brown, and then Rick Adelman.
Why isn't my guy Larry Brown? Why is he? Sticks
are still paying him? Is that? And then you've got
Doc Rivers is the last of the thousand win coaches.
He's got a thousand thirty two. Guys were better. I'd
have more. I'd i'd have double what Pop has. But

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it's not my fault. I mean, I I coach best
I can every night. I shouldn't have a loss at
all in the regular season. I should have all wins,
but my guys don't play well. When they play well,
they win, that's great. It's it's all because of me.
But you know, when they don't, that's all because of them.
I should have three thousand wins right now. I should
have as many. I should be in the Cal Ripken
club with all those games he played consecutive I should

(37:22):
have more than that should be right there, nicely done.
Way to extrapolate that, Yeah, I just wonder, you know,
to some degree, and look at say what fifty five
and a half percent winning winning percentage for for Nelson
in his career, A little obviously better for for Popovich.

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So to that end, I think there there's something lost,
right because it's also something that has to happen, and
you say, well, congratulations on coaching that long and it
takes nothing away from Don Nelson, right His teams won
a lot of games, which is why we're talking about
this at all. But I think it's one of those
that just it's it's that long road to it, and

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particularly for pop for this year, a lot of pageantry
after a lot of hugs and excitement from his players,
cool videos. I think people had moved on from Popovich
since the Spurs a couple of years ago was the
end of their run as one of the contending squads.
I don't know that it would be even if they
were good, people would pay attention there the top of

(38:24):
the West. Would people would pay attention when I think
I think if they were first or second in the West,
because we'd be talking about them. We're not talking about
them now because they think I don't know, I don't
know how much do we talk about them When they
were winning championships, they were the most boring team, and
that we talked about how boring, We're so boring. Yeah,
and then we were done because after you're talking about
how boring until we got into the life that that

(38:47):
was for Tony Parker, Gry, I mean we got into
that a little bit. What did Tebow do today? You know,
I'll you know, I remember that Tony Parker, even Longoria
wedding and iron because this is not in the infancy
of blogs when it for but I remember going, you know,
going to blogs every day looking for the weird stories.
And now you don't need to do that. Those dot

(39:08):
com Yeah, I go to Ben mallard dot com all
the time. I was featured on Ben mallow dot com.
That was producer prep. But like Ben al right, Ben's Prep,
Ben's page, Sports by Brooks was a big one. Uh,
all the different ones you would go and you would
find and you would find some crazy story and it
would wind up everywhere. Right, every show would do it. Oh,

(39:29):
this is interesting and different. I'm gonna do this story.
You know, stories about like how when David Garrard was
the quarterback of the Jaguars, he was doing a radio
show that he stopped doing because he wasn't getting paid
or some crazy like that. I'm going, this story is everywhere.
That story would even get reported now, but now all
that stories everywhere because it's on a blog. Right, Oh,
it's on a blog. And I remember when Eva Longorian

(39:50):
Tony Parker when you get married. I'm going, this is
so tremendously overcovered. I can't get over the number of people.
Do do we really care this much about Tony Parker
and Eva long Gore? Are you seriously? It was one
of the biggest things going. Man, remember but I mean,
come on, it's Tony Parker. It's Tony Parker. I mean
know what? And he said san Antonio it was Did

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people really care that much? I can't believe they did.
He was winning and she was winning in the ratings
and winning in the hearts and minds. It wasn't happening.
Well not now. You have to reach to to make
that happen. But congratulations to Greg Popovich, you know, well learned,

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even if he doesn't get the credit and people don't
think it's a big story. At Congratulations, I felt brad
because I felt like I took a baseball bat to it.
Because I just mentioned all the NBA titles. The rest
of those guys didn't win. Gotta with Flair. Gotta win
with Flair Man. You can't just win got him with Flair.
This is me expressing my flair Okay, bracket seasons right

(40:54):
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we are in the midst of championship week in college basketball,

(41:16):
and look to be honest. Because I call it like
I see it, I gotta call it straight. This has
been a very boring college basketball season. It's not It's
not been filled with a lot of twists and turns.
There's not been the big national programs to gain our attention.
College basketball has had a very big, regionalized year where
the teams are big regionally, but you know, do we

(41:36):
care about Duke as much? No, North Carolina. It's just
not And and this is part of the trend of
college basketball and that this is where it's going. And
now with Mike Sachowski's retirement, that could be his last game,
could be any day in the next week or so. Uh,
you know it's gonna be even tougher because Showski was
one of the true rock stars left in college basketball.
So to to make an illustrated point about this, what's

(41:59):
the most memorable thing from Championship Week so far? Leaving
it open that we could get some incredible stuff on
the weekend, could happen, right, we get some stuff tomorrow.
It's on it. What's the most memorable thing from Championship
Week in college basketball? Buddhim punching a guy in a
gut and get buddy Northwestern getting absolutely bludgeoned by Iowa

(42:21):
That Buddy not punched the guy. We're still playing in
Syracuse is winning And where the story where that's That's
one of the things in the multiverse that is definitely there. Hey,
can you give me am i on the earth? Where
Syracuse just beat Duke in the A C. C tournament. Yeah,
but they lost the next game. I'm going to the
next time, going to the next earth. I gotta make
sure they're still winning. But I'm staying in the A

(42:42):
c C as. Boston College got eliminated this week by
Miami Mammy, who got eliminated today by Duke and senior
Steve Clifford of Boston College is playing in his final
game with the Eagles. You know, the Eagles ended I
think oh in nineteen and a C C play, so
not a big year. Uh. He was asked what is
memories going to be? And Steve Clifford got really emotional

(43:03):
and uh, he hung his head for a while and
then gave an answer that you think I'm gonna make
fun of, but no, I completely dig what he said.
Take a listen, I'm not because you are in coming coming.
And then I got track and if you change, yeah, no,

(43:25):
it was. It was difficult. It was you know, track
g was definitely where you wanted to go. Boston College
was on track age instead. Uh. Here's Steve Clifford going
through his various emotions. Cliff what's your what are you
gonna take aways your best memory from playing basketball? Boston
College down for a long time. But it's that down

(43:46):
for a long time. Here you can do the standing
ten and fifteen county still not saying, you know, head
down coming up in a couple of seconds. Just no,
it's very emotional. It's happening very much. So yes, it's
coming any second. Going to eat, going out to eat.

(44:07):
That's Boston College basketball right there. That that's the that's
the n c A season, and nutshell, how could you
sum up your four years at Boston College? Man? Going
out to eat? And I'm like, okay, because I get
that on two levels. I get it on the micro
level of hey, man, I like going out to eat
after games and stuff, and I love I love going
out to eat, But there's also the macro level of
going out to eat with the guys. We didn't do

(44:28):
a lot of winning. Our team wasn't very good, but
thirteen overall, I like the guys on the team, and
I like going out to eat after. I mean, that's
I I dig that answer. What's your what are you
gonna miss? The mouth going out to eat? If someone
says to me, you know, many many years from now, knock,
what health of Jason, what are you gonna miss the
most man. I like going out to eat. That's the
answer I might give. I love going out because I
love like ordering in dinner. When we were in the studio, Oh,

(44:52):
I love going I love diner or whatever. You were working. Yeah,
it's it's fourth me, it's taco bell, it's fourth meal.
You bring him. I wasn't given the credit. It was
the local providers and wings. It didn't matter what the
health rating was. It was they were good wings. But
you're going to I get missed those wings. Those were good.
We had a lot of times you spent a lot

(45:14):
of money on food in the studio that we did.
We saved a lot of money the last year and
a half not spending not driving in and right now
with the costs of inflation, I mean, come on now,
plust the gas here. Forget about I'm waiting to find
someone out there siphoning gas out of my car. At
some point, Oh, Twitter and out about a Fresco. Mike

(45:37):
gets swollen down the Jason Smith throw with Mike car. Yeah,
going out to eat. I I'd miss that. I'd miss
I'd miss all of that. I would if I'm Boston College,
I would have wanted to hear something a little bit different, like, hey,
you know the camaraderie team and but you know, I
think it was implied like we lost nineteen in a row.
But the food was good because you know, the restaurants

(45:57):
and Boston are really really good. I I I dug
that man. We'd go to the BU campus all the time.
They would eat like kings there. This is great going
out to eat. Nothing basketball was. He's just sitting there,
sitting going I can't say anything basketball. I get this
team was, this team stucked. It was so bad. I
couldn't stand it. We're oh in nineteen, but I can't.

(46:20):
I can't say basketball. I can I'd look ridiculous. I
look at him going out to eat, going out. There's
my hands, there's your there's your two college basketball season
in the nutshell, right. I love the honesty. I don't
really care. I'm just trying to go something