March 19, 2022 • 33 mins
College Hoops Insider and Fox Sports very own Aaron Torres joins the guys to recap the latest in the big college tournament. Will we ever get the full story with Deshaun Watson controversy and does he really deserve the money? And with Deshaun Watson now in Cleveland, where does Baker Mayfield go now? All of this and much more on The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!
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Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike harm Lot from the Fox Sports
Radio Studios. I know you are still reeling from our
most recent edition of True TV or Not TV. I'll
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tell you Blood Lake really could be a great one.
Oh no, they're look. I was telling Tishers, this is
some of your best work. Every year I made hot
take and all of that we love, there's no question
about it. But times you gotta let your hair down. Sorry,
I didn't mean to take a shot. But it's the
you know, appointment listening, all right. We always try to
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win those quarter hours. Find those wins. Have some fun
along the way. I mean, I just found one that's
really interesting on Netflix. The title is is It Cake? Oh?
All right? And literally it's make crazy ass stuff and
then you have to decide whether it's the actual object
or did somebody replicate it to a cake. So here's
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here's what the looks like a designer handbag. Is it
cake or is it leather? It's insane, it's it's legit, Mike,
Is that? Is it cake? On Twitter? Now? Yeah? Right
now from Swollen Dome. But the day is done in
college basketball, the first round is complete. Yesterday was chock
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full of upsets and craziness. Today not so much. What
do we have to look forward to? Joining us now
on the hot line out basketball reporter and insider here
at Fox Sports One. Here him on the show all
the time, Aaron Torres. He is on Twitter at Aaron
Underscore Torres at what's happening? Man? Not much? Jason. You know,
first of all, I hope you're doing well. I did
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have to. I got the last call, the last minute
call to come in for you the other day. I
just assumed that you watched the Texas Southern Texas Corpus
Christy game. You saw Corpus Christy lose, and you just
said I cannot show up tonight. So that was my
assumption as to why you weren't in. I hope that
it was nothing serious. I hope it was simply a
Corpus Christy thing. But I also hope you're doing well, Mike.
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I hope you're doing well too. I'm going to see
you the other night as well. Not The thing is,
I had to finish my bracket, and as you see,
if it worked out for me, because now I've clinched
winning the expert's bracket because everybody had Kentucky and Iowa
in the final four, I've already clinched winning it. So
I'm figuring out where I'm gonna get the big TV. See.
Here's the thing you probably clinched. I would say that
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you would have clinched it by not picking Iowan Kentucky.
The problem is that you did pick Syracuse to win
the championship, and I don't. I don't think they're in
it as of this second. I could be wrong, but
you know what, Guess what, Jason, my Yukon Huskies aren't
in it either. So I really can't talk too much
smack right now. I really can't go So where are
you sitting here right now? First two days of the
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tournament looks it's been It's been a really up and
down year in college basketball, and some of the teams
that look great, you know, didn't finish the way we
thought teams coming on strong at the end. As what
you've seen so far, what stood out to you the most?
What's the dati most saying? Boy, the first two days?
This is what I think about. Well, it's really interesting
because when I was in the other night, Mike and
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I talked about this a little bit. Is that, you know,
I think that sometimes we like to just play into
this narrative that, oh, college basketball is so wide open
and there's twenty teams that can win it all. And
I think most years it's nonsense. Most years, you know, historically,
if you really look at the numbers, it's really about
somewhere between three to five teams that can win it.
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But one thing that Mike and I talked about was that,
at least me personally, and I can't speak for everybody,
but I did think this was one of the years
where it is more wide open, not just teams that
can get to New Orleans to a Final four, but
that can actually win the six games to win the
national championship. And so I bring it up Jason to
say that I think the first two days have confirmed that, man,
is that you know, you look at not only Kentucky losing,
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as you said, not only Iowa, who was a trendy pick.
Myself certainly included that like them, But Gonzaga didn't look
great for about seventy five percent of that game on
Thursday afternoon when they played whoever was Georgia State. You know,
you go on and on down the list. Arizona looks
sloppy at times. Today Ucla, I know they're a four seed,
but they struggled Baylor struggle for a minute there. So
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I just bring it up to say, I think the
first two days have confirmed what I thought, which is
that I do believe this is more of an open
tournament than traditionally has been the case. And I think
it's really been confirmed over the last day or so
in that, as you said, a couple of teams that
have been upset, but even some of the top seeds
that have advanced haven't necessarily look great in the process.
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How does Michigan State send coach k into retirement? Well,
you know, Mike, and again something you and I spoke
about the other night. I mean, listen, first of all,
you know, we can make our jokes about coach k
but like you know, to go back to even selection Sunday,
like all of this stuff about Tennessee being a two
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seed versus a three seed, it was all justified because really, Duke,
while they have a couple of great wins they beat
both Kentucky, which was a great win their season's over,
and Gonzaga on a neutral court in a game that
I was at, they also have some bizarre losses. I mean,
they lost to Virginia at home. Virginia was obviously not
a tournament team. They lost a Florida State not a
tournament team. Virginia Tech, they lose to in the a
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SEC championship game, would not have been a tournament team
if they hadn't won the ACC And so, Mike, when
you asked me, how can Michigan State do just you know,
play for forty minutes with Duke, because they have shown
that they can be susceptible to losing team, to losing
two teams excuse me, that are inferior to them. And
so you know, Duke took care of bus against Fullerton tonight,
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as everybody expected. But this is a team that seems
as though they coasted through acc play, probably played their
best basketball in November and December, have been hanging on
since then, and so Michigan State needs to just basically
be in the game and have a chance to win late.
With that said, I'm not a huge Michigan State guy
this year. I don't know if it's going to happen.
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But with the way that Texas Tech looked today, with
the way that Gonzaga has looked throughout the year, I
do find it hard to believe that we're still talking
about this coach k retirement tour when the final four
commences about you know, two weeks from now in New Orleans,
Aaron Torres, whether it's her college basketball inside of the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carman. All Right,
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so now going ahead, we're still looking back the big
Kentucky upset, which has been the big story the last
couple of days. I know he's got that big contract, right,
he signed that ten year, eighty six million dollar deal.
But I'll tell you at after that game last night,
I'm saying to myself, this is maybe the time when
John Calipari is sit back and go maybe I've maxed
out here, because this should have been a great chance
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from to win a national championship and he can't get
out of the first round against a fifteen seed that
he led late in regulation and overtime. Do you feel
that that's where Calipari's at kind of at that watershed
moment or is he just gonna, you know, continue on
and throw this away in next year's next year? Well, Jason,
the word you said, watershed, you know, pivotal moment whatever,
I agree with it one hundred percent. That was my
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biggest takeaway. And I've been a Calipari supporter, but one
thing I was filling in for for Doug golip today
with Dan Bayer and one thing that I brought up,
you really go back. This is not a one you know,
like like like first of all, okay, so two things
can be true. Calipari is not getting fired, nor should
he get fired over this moment. But this is not
a one year deal. You go back, So let's just
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use the last five years. Twenty eighteen, they lose to
a nine seat in Kansas State. Twenty twenty, excuse me,
twenty eighteen loses to a nine seat. Twenty nineteen, they
lose in the Elite eight to an Auburn team that
they had already beaten twice. That year twenty twenty, no
tournament has been played, and I think the narrative at
the time was, well, if the tournament gets played, they
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have Tyrese, Maxie Emanuel quickly they would have had a
real good run. Well, now we have twenty twenty one
where the season is disappointing. Obviously last year missed the tournament.
Twenty twenty two, you lose to Saint Peter's Jason. This
is a five year trend at this point, and so listen,
I don't think I know Calberry's like not getting fired,
He's not getting forced out, nothing like that. But at
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the same time, you know he's out of excuses. Basically,
I guess is the way that I would put it
for years, every time he lost, it was always we
have freshmen, this is a process. We're the youngest team
in college basketball. Well, last offseason, coming off of the
worst season frankly in basically modern Kentucky history. His whole
thing was, while we're going to use the portal, the
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one time transfer rule is in place, we can bring
in older players. Now, well, you just brought in older
players and you had probably the worst tournament loss in
Kentucky history, following the worst regular season in Kentucky history.
And so listen, this guy's an all timer. And I
know he's got a lot of flags through the years,
but for the people that have said, for a year
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after year after year, he has the one of the
two or three most talented teams every single season. I mean,
when we're talking about a five year sample size, Jason,
a five year sample size, it's not one loss, it's
not two losses. It's now three straight NCAA tournaments that
he has lost to an inferior team, not debatable, mixed
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in with the worst regular season in Kentucky history, mixed
in with a twenty twenty year where you were good,
but we'll never know because the twenty twenty tournament was canceled.
I do understand the frustration of the Kentucky fan base
right now saying, listen, it's not national championship or bust.
But you also can't lose to Saint Peter's either, And
I think that's the middle ground. If you get to
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the Elite eight, you lose to Baylor, that's a lot
different than losing to a school named Saint Peter's. Let's
be honest, none of us had heard of them up
until yesterday. Germany Eddy Saint Peter's. Come on, man, you
know Bob Hurley was a longtime coach. You went there
for sc Bobby ly Daddy Early's Dad. I mean, that's
all I know about Saint Peter's. I'm just making That's
what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I mean, listen,
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the pictures of the gym made the rounds yesterday and like,
by the way, it's a really cool story for Saint
Peter's and credit their head coach Sheen all the way.
Because you guys were on air, you probably watched that
game from start to finish. Saint Peter's was the better prepared,
more ready to go team, But there was one coach
that was making eight point five million dollars, Jason, And
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you can't dismiss it as a one off, one thing
deal when it's now five years in a round even
to cut you guys off. But I think it's an
important point and I think it's a great question. Well,
and they had the eight point five million dollars being
paid to players via an nil who couldn't hit a
free throw. No that also play hit wall. No, I
mean it doesn't. I mean it doesn't. Well, and Mike, though,
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in all seriousness, it proves the point. What excuse. Here's
the thing, and I said this on on Doug Show today,
what I truly believe there is nothing that John Calipari
can do between now today March eighteen, twenty twenty two,
and the middle of the twenty twenty three tournament to
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win back this fan base. There's no recruit he can sign,
there's no transfer he can sign, there's no regular season
when he can have because you know, I know it
was tongue in cheek, Mike, but it's a great point
is now you have anil so when you lose a recruit,
you can't say, well, you know, well, guess what. You
can actually pay him above board and you can pay
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them better than anybody else. So I'm not it's not
a Calipari needs to be fired. It is he is
out of pretty much out of excuses though, to both
of your guys point throughout this segment. All right, so
last thing I'm gonna hit you with this. We have
all four number one seeds advance. Obviously they're all the
one eight nine games. Do all four number one seeds
survive this weekend? I'm gonna say no. I don't know
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where it comes from, though, I will say if San
Diego State had beaten Creton yesterday, I really did like
San Diego State to pull the upset against Kansas. But listen, Krayton.
They continue to lose players, they continue to find ways
to win, advance to the biggest championship game. Beat Providence
along the way. Memphis is playing as well as anybody.
I've been critical of Penny Hardaway. Those in the college
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basketball community have been critical of Penny Hardaway. He has
his team playing the best basketball ever. They play Gonzaga
in the late game. I'll actually be on air in
this timeslot tomorrow when that game is being played. Baylor
opener tomorrow, first game tomorrow against North Carolina. I criticize
Hubert Davis. They're playing well as well. So who am
I missing there? I guess against Arnie span Year's Wildcats, Well, listen, well,
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I'll tell you this. Have we gotten the Have we
gotten the schedule for Sunday? Yet? Because if Arizona is
playing when Arnie Spanier is on with Chris Planks starting
at eleven pm Eastern. That's as good as a loss.
I mean, you could take that to the bank. I
mean you guys, you can you can leave. You can
leave the Fox Sports Radio studios in Sherman Oaks, drive
to Vegas tonight. Put your life savings on TCU on Sunday.
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If we know that, if we know Larnie Spaniards, it
is the late game, it's the last It's the last
game of the day. Oh TCU is a thousand percent
winning that game? Is Segar in tonight? Is the Sager
in tonight? Geger the Sager, feel free to jump in
and confirm TCU is winning this game. There's zero down
in my last They shouldn't I said earlier tonight. They're
easily one of the worst teams in this field. And
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yet Arnie Spanier has an unmistakable uncanny Uh my ight
is touch shall we say in reverse? Where any sport
in the Arizona Athletic department that is taking place during
his show inevitably is an l well the Sager And
you know, about three weeks ago they were the hottest
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team in college basketball. Jason Martin calls out about Saturday
at eight am. He's not feeling well, they put an
Artie Spanier, Arizona loses for Colorado. They were unbeatable. I
think I swear the week before they had beaten the
Warriors in the Grizzlies and somehow they lost for Colorado
that week and the night that Artie Spanier called in.
So listen, I'm not telling you guys how to spend
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your money. You guys work hard for it. But I
am saying, drive straight from the Fox Sports Radio studios
to Vegas tonight and throw it all down. That's all
I'm saying. The game will be in the second half
when Artie says hello Sunday night. That's all I'm saying. Fellas,
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turn happened in National Football League, Deshaun Watson got traded. Okay,
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not really surprising because we thought it was coming, but
the destination whoo, that's a big one. After telling the Browns, hey,
you're out, I don't want to go there. No. Now
we're gonna clean up this mess with Baker Mayfield. Wait wait, wait,
maybe I was a little bit too hasty because I
really don't like what's going on in Atlanta. They won't
give me enough money, and New Orleans is out. Hey,
I want to come back to you in Cleveland. And
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right after that report came out, the deal was done.
Shortly after Deshaun Watson, now a Brown, gonna get a
deal giving him two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed,
the most guaranteed money in the history of the NFL
for one deal. The Browns trade three first round picks,
a third round pick, and a fourth round pick to
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get DeShawn Watson now first. Before we get to de
Shaun Watson, part of this is that the Texans did
as well as they could with this move, right because
I like three reasons why in a year the Texans
can be a five hundred ish team in the NFL. Right,
because I got three things going for them. They got
Lovey Smith, they got the haul in this DeShawn Watson
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deal with three first round picks, A couple more comment.
They got a lot, and I really like Davis Mills.
This guy was someone they drafted to say maybe he's
a curiosity. He was really good, Mike, And I don't
think people understand that. With all the rookie quarterbacks we
talked about, and you know, Lawrence and Zach Wilson got
all the attention, and I understand that, but Davis Mills
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was a team that was terrible and people weren't really
paying attention. But on a really bad team, he was
pretty good. And so now you have this kind of talent,
you can surround a quarterback who you're gonna be paying
a really low contract too for a long time. If
he's decent the tech, they can make that jump into
respect the ability in a year. It can happen that
you can get from two and fourteen or two and
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fifteen to seven and nine to eight and nine, nine
and eight pretty quick in the NFL. And this turnaround
can happen for the Texans. Yeah, I mean, you got
a bunch of draft picks. Obviously you did as well
as you could. Lovey Smith is a good placeholder, stabilizer,
whatever you want to say. As they move forward with
the squad. It's been a long time since he's had
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tremendous success as a head coach. Don't forget he spent
several years at Illinois in between that Bears run and
where he is now. But to your point, Davis Mills
sixty six point eight completion rate, Yes, the record obviously terrible.
The team was awful. Sixteen touchdowns just against ten picks,
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which isn't great, but it's still, you know, not a
horrible ratio. And when you look at the players that
he had at his disposal, you had Brandon Cooks and
a bunch of guys right both at the running back
because Rex Burkehead became your leading rusher for crying out
loud to show you where you were. No disrespect to him,
but this is a guy that's been in the league
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quite a while and it hadn't really been an impact
player since twenty seventeen, and even then it was as
a red zone guy in New England. So you have
now draft assets to go work with. You get away
from this and the story and everything about it that
got on Savory pretty fast in terms of him asking
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out the Bill O'Brien era as he traded away everything
he possibly could cutting it. So it's like, all right,
de Sean, you got your new contract. That's great, but
you've got nobody to play with you anymore. And so
he asked out, and then all the allegations came forward.
So you make the best of it. Davis Mills, I
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think is a guy you can at least have as
your stable bridge guy with some great upset upside. I
should say, until you decide, all right, can we bring
in a franchise guy or do we go draft one?
Because this ain't the year to go draft one. No,
you don't want to try to try to get something
this year. But this actually plays into it because with
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their draft picks, they can build around him and if
they're right. And look, the guy was pretty good. I
mean really, I mean honestly, he was pretty good with
not a lot around. I'm excited to see what he
can do. And now that the Deshaun Watson cloud is
not hanging over the franchise anymore, it is he playing,
is he not? Look, I would have forced the issue.
We talked about it a lot last year, and I
know the optics of a guy on the field while
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so much was still hanging in the balance was not
what anybody wanted, but it also would have forced the
hand of the office in New York to decide what
they were going to do exemp list or whatever else. Instead,
it was all right, he's available, but he's not showing up.
So what are we doing here now? When it comes
to Watson, That's part of it. This is what gets
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a little bit difficult because, look, to be quite on,
it's hard for me to talk about DeShawn Watson because
there's so much unresolved with his legal situation. And to
go from hey, there's no criminal charges too. Now he's
getting traded and getting two hundred and thirty million dollars man,
that's an awful optic. You know, No matter what happened criminally,
this is still twenty two women who have brought these
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charges against him, and and are they all making it up?
Why is he calling twenty two different women from massages?
All these unanswered questions. He didn't talk at all. He
played the Fifth amendments, so we didn't really never got
his side of the story on what happened, and you
still have the civil cases that are pending. Now, what
does this mean with no criminal charges, he'll be able
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to play in the NFL. He'll probably get a suspension
of four to six games when it's all said and done,
but he's gonna be playing. And it's difficult. It's hard
for me because we have to balance the business of
the NFL and Deshaun Watson getting traded as a really
big deal for so many ways. It's the NFL on
the field, it's team's fortunes, it's where quarterbacks go after.
It's part of the jazz, right It's part of what
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we talk about. But the other part of it is, man,
we're just kind of moving right on all of a sudden.
It was look at what's going on with with with
all of these women, and now we're moving on. It's
hard to talk about him. And when I think this
settles and Deshaun Watson becomes a member of the Browns,
he will be one of those players that we just
don't talk about with a lot of passion or emotion
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because he's in the league. So we will talk about
him when he when it merits, and when the Browns
win a big game, the Browns are winning, the Browns
are losing, Deshaun Watson's good, Deshaun Watson's bad, But that
whole the the the emotion that we put in. We
talk about players like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers and
Russell Wilson, you know, it's different. And when when you
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compare them the players, for instance, had fallen into the
category of Michael Vick or Ben Roethlisberger or Tyree Hill,
they're just hard to talk about. And I know in
my career it's when these guys come up, it's I'm
just going to be matter of fact with them, and
it's going to be hard to come up with with
full segments to talk about them and to really care
about what I think about them a lot because it's
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such a it's such a double edged sword. You don't
know what's happening in a lot of these cases that
come up, and for whatever reason, they just kind of
go away. It's difficult. And that's the way it's going
to be for Deshaun Watson. I think that's how he's
going to be reported on. He's reported on like like
Roethlisberger was and like Michael Vick was, where here's what happened,
here's how it affected the game, and here's some conversation
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on it. But we're not going to dwell on it.
We're not going to spend a lot of time on
it like we do with Rogers or Wilson or any
of these guys where their dramas about on the field
and what they say. Uh, that's just how I think
it's gonna wind up going for Deshaun Watson after this
initial buzz of this trade and the fallout of it
is over. Yeah, I think the curiosity is to see
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you know, obviously the reporting and there's a sensitivity to it,
but what happens between the white lines. Look, if he
plays well, you're gonna have to acknowledge it, right, and
I mean the global you as football fans, as NFL
watchers and everything leading towards the road to Super Bowl
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fifty seven in Arizona. Right, So if he comes back
and he plays well with her, it's a half year
or four games or whatever comes down suspension. You still
have to deal with the twenty two civil cases and
the details, at least the little leaks of what some
of the allegations are. I mean, it's uncomfortable, it's it's
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tough to talk about certainly. You know, I always get
at least a little bit when I drive Madeline to
her private soccer practices that we do on Friday, right,
go through some skills and work through some stuff, and
you know, I stand in goal and letter pepper me
with shots to get the frustrations of anything I did
wrong that week out on her. You know, that's changed.
More shots. I've just taken one hundred and fifty seventy
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five more. Dad was not a fan of that segment
you did with mister Jason on Tuesday. No, but she
asked what she always asked, what the show is kind
of looking like for Friday night, right, and talking about
the nc doubaa tournament. She'd heard kids talking about it.
And they actually watched a little bit of the tournament
towards the end of a class after a test and
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everybody had papers in and they still had a couple
of minutes. You know, they finished early, which is great,
but the guy flipped on you know, his computer and
let them watch a couple of minutes of the game.
So she knew that was going on. She goes, and
you were talking about free agency the other day and
he's like, yeah, and that guy, I go, well, he's
the story of the day, and started explaining, you know,
because look, over eighteen months, they kind of ebb and flow.
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You're amazed at what falls into their timelines or what
they hear at school, And certainly Deshaun Watson's case had
come up in nebulous terms, but certainly enough to where
they knew there was something being looked into in terms
of behavior. So trying to talk with her about it
and saying, well, you know, two hundred and thirty million dollars,
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there's a lot of people that are going to be
upset about it, saying, look, a bad guy got over
and we don't know where reality and what's real and
who's telling a truth or their version of the truth,
and you know, but twenty two is a very large
number of coincidence, right, So it's hard to stomach and
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hard to process as guaranteed deals. Congratulation to him and
his agent for orchestrating a deal and being the type
of talent where there's that much interest while this is
still pending, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't leave
a little bit of a sour taste in your mouth. Again,
we don't know what the end game is and what
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really happened with each of these women, but it's enough
and we've talked to enough people and read enough about
this to to leave you ill at ease. And to
your point about Michael Vick and others, it's, you know,
hopefully you learn and you be better. Right, Michael Vick
has to some degree he's never gonna win over and
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and find peace with everybody. But hopefully whatever happened with
Deshaun Watson, he recognizes and does a lot of good
going forward and maybe get a little bit of that
redemption arc. But in the interim, you've got Cleveland that
went for it right of all the teams he had
the no trade clause, decided this is the squad I
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want to go to, and they made it happen. And
for him and for that organization, for their fan base,
you know, they've they've all got to come to grips
with it, because I know a lot of friends that
are Browns fans, like I don't know that I could
be a Browns fan anymore. And that's one of the
things you have to come to terms with here. You know,
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It was limp and dangly. I had to pull it out.
We got Baker Mayfield come in your way in a
couple of minutes. However, we're getting reports here from Mark Burman,
sports director at Fox care IV. He's got a blue
check mark and everything that Carlos Correa and the Twins
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have reached agreement on a three year, hundred and five
million dollars deal. Fox Sports and MLB just tweeting it
out as well. Less than a minute ago. Bob Nightingale
again seconds ago, tweeting this out. So Carlos career is
now gone from the astros. Let's call our boss, uh Scotch,
tell him right now. We should call him right now
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and tell him here. I'll put him on my cell phone.
All right, go ahead, call him right now and tell him.
Maybe I'll answer. Go ahead, call him and hold it up.
Call him and hold it up. Let's do it. Call it,
hold him up, call it and see if he answers.
All right, I'm calling now. Let's do it. Call it.
Hold up. See if we can hear him. This would
be great. Actually, actually actually it is California. I don't
want to lose my job. It's it's fine. It's ten four. Okay, fine, wow, great,
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he wouldn't care. I did text him though, So let's
see if we get a quick response. All right, I'll
start talking about the other Baker Mayfield. Oh no, he's
he's got in a hotel room with sleeping kids. Unfortunately, boo.
If he was a real fan, he would come on
with us. Talk about the twins getting Carlos Correa. Wow,
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highest average annual value for an MLBN fielder Carlos Korea.
Now to the Minnesota Twins. So now people can go
boo him boy, Too bad, they don't play with the
trash baggy in right field anymore. People hitting that's into
the trash can. Oh, that would have been awesome. All right,
just people hitting that for fastball's coming. I'm hitting the
trash bag for you. There's no can. I'm hitting the
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bag all That would have been the best. That would
have been the best. Here's here's the response. Still not
buying it until authors confirm it, and those opt outs
scare me. There you go, Oh, so there it is.
Carlos Correa two the Twins for three years and one
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hundred and five million dollars. Now, we talked a lot
today about DeShawn Watson and now that he's a member
of the Browns, and you know clearly Baker Mayfield. It's
been a big part of this conversation. The Browns were
in on Deshaun Watson. He wanted out. Now I don't
want to play there anymore. I thought I was tough
and I was a guy gonna take the NFL by storm,
But now you're going after somebody else. I want to
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be traded. There's only a couple of big places for
Baker Mayfield to land now, one that would be great.
I would love to see him land Is in Carolina
just to see him and Sam Darnold try to duel
it out. I mean that would be the best. You know,
you committed money to Cam Newton, You're gonna give Sam
Darnold twenty million, and you got eighteen million for Baker Mayfield.
Next year, Let's have mediocre quarterbacks that are worth like
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sixty million dollars battled out. So that would be a
great destiny. I would love that, love that love at
that good theater. Seattle would be great because Pete Carroll's
kind of a raw, raw guy, and they're gonna need
some kind of competition for Drew Locke, and he's about
as far away from Cleveland as you can get. Let
him battle it out. Seattle always says they're about competition.
Maybe he can thrive there, maybe because Seattle's going to
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be in that position of, well, we need somebody here.
We got a couple of guys, but we're not sure.
Now he wants to go to Indianapolis. Forget Indianapolis had
enough with quarterbacks who may or may not still be good.
So it is still the best fit for him in
terms of just translating to a squad that looked like
that that gave him such great success in twenty oh yeah. Yeah, yeah,
But but the Indianapolis just did that with Carson White.
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We're not doing it again with Baker Mayfield. I think
he and would get along though, But all right, keep going.
So here's where he should go, and now we get
to a new verb about getting Trubisky. Is where he
should go is Tampa. He should go to Tampa Bay
because this problem has always been not really understanding what
it means to be an NFL quarterback and not getting
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the responsibilities of being a leader and all the off
the field stuff that he can't shut out. Right, he
goes to Tampa Bay for a couple of years, he
plays behind Brady. Brady will show him what it means
to be a quarterback in the NFL. He will learn
a lot. And like Trubisky who went to the Bills
and the Bills were terrific, he didn't do anything the
last years. But as you can see, in the NFL,
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you can do nothing and people love you. Again, if
he goes to Tampa and he's he's a model citizen
and he learns and you get good reports out of
him out there in a couple of years, either he
takes over for Tom Brady when Brady leaves, or he
gets another chance like Trabiski, to win a job somewhere,
because that's what it really is for Mayfield. It's not
so much about the performance on the field in this
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I mean, that's a that's part of it, but really
he's been his own worst enemy. So go someplace where
you can be under the radar for a little bit,
learn what it means to be a quarterback, and then
you get a chance in a couple of years to show, hey,
this is what I've learned, and now I'm ready. I
know what it means now to be an NFL quarterback.
Because if he really knew that from the beginning, his
career would be in a different place right now. But
he never did. He thought his arrogance and swagger, I
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can do whatever I want to, I get involved in teammates, businesses,
I can do whatever I want. No, clearly you didn't know,
and that is what helped derail you as a quarterback.
So that's why I like Tampa for him, Yeah, and
that's where it's for me. I'll take Kyle Trask. I'll
take the young guy learning from one right instead of
trying to fix that which is broken. Right. We see
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the word entitled and needing to be humbled is a
phrase that goes with Baker Mayfield a lot. And I
still think he's a pretty good quarterback. But if I'm Tampa,
it's like I got a guy that I'm paying nothing,
and that's where I'm gonna stay. Keep teaching the young
guy for when Brady potentially eventually retires. Who knows it
may never happen. I saw some folks suggesting the Giants
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Brian Dable is he either gonna fix Daniel Jones or
he's bringing in a guy with the temperament of Josh Allen.
He ain't bringing in Baker Mayfield, but Carolina would be
good theater for US. Matt Rule. Which guy gets him fired? Yeah, exactly.
Twittering out about a Fresca, Mike gets swollen dome Brian
No coming up next, Professor Clayton, Rest in peace, my friend.
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Oh no, they're look. I was telling Tishers, this is
some of your best work. Every year I made hot
take and all of that we love, there's no question
about it. But times you gotta let your hair down. Sorry,
I didn't mean to take a shot. But it's the
you know, appointment listening, all right. We always try to
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win those quarter hours. Find those wins. Have some fun
along the way. I mean, I just found one that's
really interesting on Netflix. The title is is It Cake? Oh?
All right? And literally it's make crazy ass stuff and
then you have to decide whether it's the actual object
or did somebody replicate it to a cake. So here's
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here's what the looks like a designer handbag. Is it
cake or is it leather? It's insane, it's it's legit, Mike,
Is that? Is it cake? On Twitter? Now? Yeah? Right
now from Swollen Dome. But the day is done in
college basketball, the first round is complete. Yesterday was chock
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full of upsets and craziness. Today not so much. What
do we have to look forward to? Joining us now
on the hot line out basketball reporter and insider here
at Fox Sports One. Here him on the show all
the time, Aaron Torres. He is on Twitter at Aaron
Underscore Torres at what's happening? Man? Not much? Jason. You know,
first of all, I hope you're doing well. I did
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have to. I got the last call, the last minute
call to come in for you the other day. I
just assumed that you watched the Texas Southern Texas Corpus
Christy game. You saw Corpus Christy lose, and you just
said I cannot show up tonight. So that was my
assumption as to why you weren't in. I hope that
it was nothing serious. I hope it was simply a
Corpus Christy thing. But I also hope you're doing well, Mike.
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I hope you're doing well too. I'm going to see
you the other night as well. Not The thing is,
I had to finish my bracket, and as you see,
if it worked out for me, because now I've clinched
winning the expert's bracket because everybody had Kentucky and Iowa
in the final four, I've already clinched winning it. So
I'm figuring out where I'm gonna get the big TV. See.
Here's the thing you probably clinched. I would say that
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you would have clinched it by not picking Iowan Kentucky.
The problem is that you did pick Syracuse to win
the championship, and I don't. I don't think they're in
it as of this second. I could be wrong, but
you know what, Guess what, Jason, my Yukon Huskies aren't
in it either. So I really can't talk too much
smack right now. I really can't go So where are
you sitting here right now? First two days of the
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tournament looks it's been It's been a really up and
down year in college basketball, and some of the teams
that look great, you know, didn't finish the way we
thought teams coming on strong at the end. As what
you've seen so far, what stood out to you the most?
What's the dati most saying? Boy, the first two days?
This is what I think about. Well, it's really interesting
because when I was in the other night, Mike and
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I talked about this a little bit. Is that, you know,
I think that sometimes we like to just play into
this narrative that, oh, college basketball is so wide open
and there's twenty teams that can win it all. And
I think most years it's nonsense. Most years, you know, historically,
if you really look at the numbers, it's really about
somewhere between three to five teams that can win it.
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But one thing that Mike and I talked about was that,
at least me personally, and I can't speak for everybody,
but I did think this was one of the years
where it is more wide open, not just teams that
can get to New Orleans to a Final four, but
that can actually win the six games to win the
national championship. And so I bring it up Jason to
say that I think the first two days have confirmed that, man,
is that you know, you look at not only Kentucky losing,
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as you said, not only Iowa, who was a trendy pick.
Myself certainly included that like them, But Gonzaga didn't look
great for about seventy five percent of that game on
Thursday afternoon when they played whoever was Georgia State. You know,
you go on and on down the list. Arizona looks
sloppy at times. Today Ucla, I know they're a four seed,
but they struggled Baylor struggle for a minute there. So
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I just bring it up to say, I think the
first two days have confirmed what I thought, which is
that I do believe this is more of an open
tournament than traditionally has been the case. And I think
it's really been confirmed over the last day or so
in that, as you said, a couple of teams that
have been upset, but even some of the top seeds
that have advanced haven't necessarily look great in the process.
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How does Michigan State send coach k into retirement? Well,
you know, Mike, and again something you and I spoke
about the other night. I mean, listen, first of all,
you know, we can make our jokes about coach k
but like you know, to go back to even selection Sunday,
like all of this stuff about Tennessee being a two
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seed versus a three seed, it was all justified because really, Duke,
while they have a couple of great wins they beat
both Kentucky, which was a great win their season's over,
and Gonzaga on a neutral court in a game that
I was at, they also have some bizarre losses. I mean,
they lost to Virginia at home. Virginia was obviously not
a tournament team. They lost a Florida State not a
tournament team. Virginia Tech, they lose to in the a
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SEC championship game, would not have been a tournament team
if they hadn't won the ACC And so, Mike, when
you asked me, how can Michigan State do just you know,
play for forty minutes with Duke, because they have shown
that they can be susceptible to losing team, to losing
two teams excuse me, that are inferior to them. And
so you know, Duke took care of bus against Fullerton tonight,
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as everybody expected. But this is a team that seems
as though they coasted through acc play, probably played their
best basketball in November and December, have been hanging on
since then, and so Michigan State needs to just basically
be in the game and have a chance to win late.
With that said, I'm not a huge Michigan State guy
this year. I don't know if it's going to happen.
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But with the way that Texas Tech looked today, with
the way that Gonzaga has looked throughout the year, I
do find it hard to believe that we're still talking
about this coach k retirement tour when the final four
commences about you know, two weeks from now in New Orleans,
Aaron Torres, whether it's her college basketball inside of the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carman. All Right,
(06:54):
so now going ahead, we're still looking back the big
Kentucky upset, which has been the big story the last
couple of days. I know he's got that big contract, right,
he signed that ten year, eighty six million dollar deal.
But I'll tell you at after that game last night,
I'm saying to myself, this is maybe the time when
John Calipari is sit back and go maybe I've maxed
out here, because this should have been a great chance
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from to win a national championship and he can't get
out of the first round against a fifteen seed that
he led late in regulation and overtime. Do you feel
that that's where Calipari's at kind of at that watershed
moment or is he just gonna, you know, continue on
and throw this away in next year's next year? Well, Jason,
the word you said, watershed, you know, pivotal moment whatever,
I agree with it one hundred percent. That was my
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biggest takeaway. And I've been a Calipari supporter, but one
thing I was filling in for for Doug golip today
with Dan Bayer and one thing that I brought up,
you really go back. This is not a one you know,
like like like first of all, okay, so two things
can be true. Calipari is not getting fired, nor should
he get fired over this moment. But this is not
a one year deal. You go back, So let's just
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use the last five years. Twenty eighteen, they lose to
a nine seat in Kansas State. Twenty twenty, excuse me,
twenty eighteen loses to a nine seat. Twenty nineteen, they
lose in the Elite eight to an Auburn team that
they had already beaten twice. That year twenty twenty, no
tournament has been played, and I think the narrative at
the time was, well, if the tournament gets played, they
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have Tyrese, Maxie Emanuel quickly they would have had a
real good run. Well, now we have twenty twenty one
where the season is disappointing. Obviously last year missed the tournament.
Twenty twenty two, you lose to Saint Peter's Jason. This
is a five year trend at this point, and so listen,
I don't think I know Calberry's like not getting fired,
He's not getting forced out, nothing like that. But at
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the same time, you know he's out of excuses. Basically,
I guess is the way that I would put it
for years, every time he lost, it was always we
have freshmen, this is a process. We're the youngest team
in college basketball. Well, last offseason, coming off of the
worst season frankly in basically modern Kentucky history. His whole
thing was, while we're going to use the portal, the
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one time transfer rule is in place, we can bring
in older players. Now, well, you just brought in older
players and you had probably the worst tournament loss in
Kentucky history, following the worst regular season in Kentucky history.
And so listen, this guy's an all timer. And I
know he's got a lot of flags through the years,
but for the people that have said, for a year
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after year after year, he has the one of the
two or three most talented teams every single season. I mean,
when we're talking about a five year sample size, Jason,
a five year sample size, it's not one loss, it's
not two losses. It's now three straight NCAA tournaments that
he has lost to an inferior team, not debatable, mixed
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in with the worst regular season in Kentucky history, mixed
in with a twenty twenty year where you were good,
but we'll never know because the twenty twenty tournament was canceled.
I do understand the frustration of the Kentucky fan base
right now saying, listen, it's not national championship or bust.
But you also can't lose to Saint Peter's either, And
I think that's the middle ground. If you get to
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the Elite eight, you lose to Baylor, that's a lot
different than losing to a school named Saint Peter's. Let's
be honest, none of us had heard of them up
until yesterday. Germany Eddy Saint Peter's. Come on, man, you
know Bob Hurley was a longtime coach. You went there
for sc Bobby ly Daddy Early's Dad. I mean, that's
all I know about Saint Peter's. I'm just making That's
what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I mean, listen,
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the pictures of the gym made the rounds yesterday and like,
by the way, it's a really cool story for Saint
Peter's and credit their head coach Sheen all the way.
Because you guys were on air, you probably watched that
game from start to finish. Saint Peter's was the better prepared,
more ready to go team, But there was one coach
that was making eight point five million dollars, Jason, And
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you can't dismiss it as a one off, one thing
deal when it's now five years in a round even
to cut you guys off. But I think it's an
important point and I think it's a great question. Well,
and they had the eight point five million dollars being
paid to players via an nil who couldn't hit a
free throw. No that also play hit wall. No, I
mean it doesn't. I mean it doesn't. Well, and Mike, though,
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in all seriousness, it proves the point. What excuse. Here's
the thing, and I said this on on Doug Show today,
what I truly believe there is nothing that John Calipari
can do between now today March eighteen, twenty twenty two,
and the middle of the twenty twenty three tournament to
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win back this fan base. There's no recruit he can sign,
there's no transfer he can sign, there's no regular season
when he can have because you know, I know it
was tongue in cheek, Mike, but it's a great point
is now you have anil so when you lose a recruit,
you can't say, well, you know, well, guess what. You
can actually pay him above board and you can pay
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them better than anybody else. So I'm not it's not
a Calipari needs to be fired. It is he is
out of pretty much out of excuses though, to both
of your guys point throughout this segment. All right, so
last thing I'm gonna hit you with this. We have
all four number one seeds advance. Obviously they're all the
one eight nine games. Do all four number one seeds
survive this weekend? I'm gonna say no. I don't know
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where it comes from, though, I will say if San
Diego State had beaten Creton yesterday, I really did like
San Diego State to pull the upset against Kansas. But listen, Krayton.
They continue to lose players, they continue to find ways
to win, advance to the biggest championship game. Beat Providence
along the way. Memphis is playing as well as anybody.
I've been critical of Penny Hardaway. Those in the college
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basketball community have been critical of Penny Hardaway. He has
his team playing the best basketball ever. They play Gonzaga
in the late game. I'll actually be on air in
this timeslot tomorrow when that game is being played. Baylor
opener tomorrow, first game tomorrow against North Carolina. I criticize
Hubert Davis. They're playing well as well. So who am
I missing there? I guess against Arnie span Year's Wildcats, Well, listen, well,
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I'll tell you this. Have we gotten the Have we
gotten the schedule for Sunday? Yet? Because if Arizona is
playing when Arnie Spanier is on with Chris Planks starting
at eleven pm Eastern. That's as good as a loss.
I mean, you could take that to the bank. I
mean you guys, you can you can leave. You can
leave the Fox Sports Radio studios in Sherman Oaks, drive
to Vegas tonight. Put your life savings on TCU on Sunday.
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If we know that, if we know Larnie Spaniards, it
is the late game, it's the last It's the last
game of the day. Oh TCU is a thousand percent
winning that game? Is Segar in tonight? Is the Sager
in tonight? Geger the Sager, feel free to jump in
and confirm TCU is winning this game. There's zero down
in my last They shouldn't I said earlier tonight. They're
easily one of the worst teams in this field. And
(13:54):
yet Arnie Spanier has an unmistakable uncanny Uh my ight
is touch shall we say in reverse? Where any sport
in the Arizona Athletic department that is taking place during
his show inevitably is an l well the Sager And
you know, about three weeks ago they were the hottest
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team in college basketball. Jason Martin calls out about Saturday
at eight am. He's not feeling well, they put an
Artie Spanier, Arizona loses for Colorado. They were unbeatable. I
think I swear the week before they had beaten the
Warriors in the Grizzlies and somehow they lost for Colorado
that week and the night that Artie Spanier called in.
So listen, I'm not telling you guys how to spend
(14:36):
your money. You guys work hard for it. But I
am saying, drive straight from the Fox Sports Radio studios
to Vegas tonight and throw it all down. That's all
I'm saying. The game will be in the second half
when Artie says hello Sunday night. That's all I'm saying. Fellas,
That's all I'm saying. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
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the Fox Sports Radio Studios, where today a big left
turn happened in National Football League, Deshaun Watson got traded. Okay,
(15:18):
not really surprising because we thought it was coming, but
the destination whoo, that's a big one. After telling the Browns, hey,
you're out, I don't want to go there. No. Now
we're gonna clean up this mess with Baker Mayfield. Wait wait, wait,
maybe I was a little bit too hasty because I
really don't like what's going on in Atlanta. They won't
give me enough money, and New Orleans is out. Hey,
I want to come back to you in Cleveland. And
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right after that report came out, the deal was done.
Shortly after Deshaun Watson, now a Brown, gonna get a
deal giving him two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed,
the most guaranteed money in the history of the NFL
for one deal. The Browns trade three first round picks,
a third round pick, and a fourth round pick to
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get DeShawn Watson now first. Before we get to de
Shaun Watson, part of this is that the Texans did
as well as they could with this move, right because
I like three reasons why in a year the Texans
can be a five hundred ish team in the NFL. Right,
because I got three things going for them. They got
Lovey Smith, they got the haul in this DeShawn Watson
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deal with three first round picks, A couple more comment.
They got a lot, and I really like Davis Mills.
This guy was someone they drafted to say maybe he's
a curiosity. He was really good, Mike, And I don't
think people understand that. With all the rookie quarterbacks we
talked about, and you know, Lawrence and Zach Wilson got
all the attention, and I understand that, but Davis Mills
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was a team that was terrible and people weren't really
paying attention. But on a really bad team, he was
pretty good. And so now you have this kind of talent,
you can surround a quarterback who you're gonna be paying
a really low contract too for a long time. If
he's decent the tech, they can make that jump into
respect the ability in a year. It can happen that
you can get from two and fourteen or two and
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fifteen to seven and nine to eight and nine, nine
and eight pretty quick in the NFL. And this turnaround
can happen for the Texans. Yeah, I mean, you got
a bunch of draft picks. Obviously you did as well
as you could. Lovey Smith is a good placeholder, stabilizer,
whatever you want to say. As they move forward with
the squad. It's been a long time since he's had
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tremendous success as a head coach. Don't forget he spent
several years at Illinois in between that Bears run and
where he is now. But to your point, Davis Mills
sixty six point eight completion rate, Yes, the record obviously terrible.
The team was awful. Sixteen touchdowns just against ten picks,
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which isn't great, but it's still, you know, not a
horrible ratio. And when you look at the players that
he had at his disposal, you had Brandon Cooks and
a bunch of guys right both at the running back
because Rex Burkehead became your leading rusher for crying out
loud to show you where you were. No disrespect to him,
but this is a guy that's been in the league
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quite a while and it hadn't really been an impact
player since twenty seventeen, and even then it was as
a red zone guy in New England. So you have
now draft assets to go work with. You get away
from this and the story and everything about it that
got on Savory pretty fast in terms of him asking
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out the Bill O'Brien era as he traded away everything
he possibly could cutting it. So it's like, all right,
de Sean, you got your new contract. That's great, but
you've got nobody to play with you anymore. And so
he asked out, and then all the allegations came forward.
So you make the best of it. Davis Mills, I
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think is a guy you can at least have as
your stable bridge guy with some great upset upside. I
should say, until you decide, all right, can we bring
in a franchise guy or do we go draft one?
Because this ain't the year to go draft one. No,
you don't want to try to try to get something
this year. But this actually plays into it because with
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their draft picks, they can build around him and if
they're right. And look, the guy was pretty good. I
mean really, I mean honestly, he was pretty good with
not a lot around. I'm excited to see what he
can do. And now that the Deshaun Watson cloud is
not hanging over the franchise anymore, it is he playing,
is he not? Look, I would have forced the issue.
We talked about it a lot last year, and I
know the optics of a guy on the field while
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so much was still hanging in the balance was not
what anybody wanted, but it also would have forced the
hand of the office in New York to decide what
they were going to do exemp list or whatever else. Instead,
it was all right, he's available, but he's not showing up.
So what are we doing here now? When it comes
to Watson, That's part of it. This is what gets
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a little bit difficult because, look, to be quite on,
it's hard for me to talk about DeShawn Watson because
there's so much unresolved with his legal situation. And to
go from hey, there's no criminal charges too. Now he's
getting traded and getting two hundred and thirty million dollars man,
that's an awful optic. You know, No matter what happened criminally,
this is still twenty two women who have brought these
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charges against him, and and are they all making it up?
Why is he calling twenty two different women from massages?
All these unanswered questions. He didn't talk at all. He
played the Fifth amendments, so we didn't really never got
his side of the story on what happened, and you
still have the civil cases that are pending. Now, what
does this mean with no criminal charges, he'll be able
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to play in the NFL. He'll probably get a suspension
of four to six games when it's all said and done,
but he's gonna be playing. And it's difficult. It's hard
for me because we have to balance the business of
the NFL and Deshaun Watson getting traded as a really
big deal for so many ways. It's the NFL on
the field, it's team's fortunes, it's where quarterbacks go after.
It's part of the jazz, right It's part of what
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we talk about. But the other part of it is, man,
we're just kind of moving right on all of a sudden.
It was look at what's going on with with with
all of these women, and now we're moving on. It's
hard to talk about him. And when I think this
settles and Deshaun Watson becomes a member of the Browns,
he will be one of those players that we just
don't talk about with a lot of passion or emotion
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because he's in the league. So we will talk about
him when he when it merits, and when the Browns
win a big game, the Browns are winning, the Browns
are losing, Deshaun Watson's good, Deshaun Watson's bad, But that
whole the the the emotion that we put in. We
talk about players like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers and
Russell Wilson, you know, it's different. And when when you
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compare them the players, for instance, had fallen into the
category of Michael Vick or Ben Roethlisberger or Tyree Hill,
they're just hard to talk about. And I know in
my career it's when these guys come up, it's I'm
just going to be matter of fact with them, and
it's going to be hard to come up with with
full segments to talk about them and to really care
about what I think about them a lot because it's
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such a it's such a double edged sword. You don't
know what's happening in a lot of these cases that
come up, and for whatever reason, they just kind of
go away. It's difficult. And that's the way it's going
to be for Deshaun Watson. I think that's how he's
going to be reported on. He's reported on like like
Roethlisberger was and like Michael Vick was, where here's what happened,
here's how it affected the game, and here's some conversation
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on it. But we're not going to dwell on it.
We're not going to spend a lot of time on
it like we do with Rogers or Wilson or any
of these guys where their dramas about on the field
and what they say. Uh, that's just how I think
it's gonna wind up going for Deshaun Watson after this
initial buzz of this trade and the fallout of it
is over. Yeah, I think the curiosity is to see
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you know, obviously the reporting and there's a sensitivity to it,
but what happens between the white lines. Look, if he
plays well, you're gonna have to acknowledge it, right, and
I mean the global you as football fans, as NFL
watchers and everything leading towards the road to Super Bowl
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fifty seven in Arizona. Right, So if he comes back
and he plays well with her, it's a half year
or four games or whatever comes down suspension. You still
have to deal with the twenty two civil cases and
the details, at least the little leaks of what some
of the allegations are. I mean, it's uncomfortable, it's it's
(23:34):
tough to talk about certainly. You know, I always get
at least a little bit when I drive Madeline to
her private soccer practices that we do on Friday, right,
go through some skills and work through some stuff, and
you know, I stand in goal and letter pepper me
with shots to get the frustrations of anything I did
wrong that week out on her. You know, that's changed.
More shots. I've just taken one hundred and fifty seventy
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five more. Dad was not a fan of that segment
you did with mister Jason on Tuesday. No, but she
asked what she always asked, what the show is kind
of looking like for Friday night, right, and talking about
the nc doubaa tournament. She'd heard kids talking about it.
And they actually watched a little bit of the tournament
towards the end of a class after a test and
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everybody had papers in and they still had a couple
of minutes. You know, they finished early, which is great,
but the guy flipped on you know, his computer and
let them watch a couple of minutes of the game.
So she knew that was going on. She goes, and
you were talking about free agency the other day and
he's like, yeah, and that guy, I go, well, he's
the story of the day, and started explaining, you know,
because look, over eighteen months, they kind of ebb and flow.
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You're amazed at what falls into their timelines or what
they hear at school, And certainly Deshaun Watson's case had
come up in nebulous terms, but certainly enough to where
they knew there was something being looked into in terms
of behavior. So trying to talk with her about it
and saying, well, you know, two hundred and thirty million dollars,
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there's a lot of people that are going to be
upset about it, saying, look, a bad guy got over
and we don't know where reality and what's real and
who's telling a truth or their version of the truth,
and you know, but twenty two is a very large
number of coincidence, right, So it's hard to stomach and
(25:27):
hard to process as guaranteed deals. Congratulation to him and
his agent for orchestrating a deal and being the type
of talent where there's that much interest while this is
still pending, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't leave
a little bit of a sour taste in your mouth. Again,
we don't know what the end game is and what
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really happened with each of these women, but it's enough
and we've talked to enough people and read enough about
this to to leave you ill at ease. And to
your point about Michael Vick and others, it's, you know,
hopefully you learn and you be better. Right, Michael Vick
has to some degree he's never gonna win over and
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and find peace with everybody. But hopefully whatever happened with
Deshaun Watson, he recognizes and does a lot of good
going forward and maybe get a little bit of that
redemption arc. But in the interim, you've got Cleveland that
went for it right of all the teams he had
the no trade clause, decided this is the squad I
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want to go to, and they made it happen. And
for him and for that organization, for their fan base,
you know, they've they've all got to come to grips
with it, because I know a lot of friends that
are Browns fans, like I don't know that I could
be a Browns fan anymore. And that's one of the
things you have to come to terms with here. You know,
the cost of winning is sometimes higher than just a
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It was limp and dangly. I had to pull it out.
We got Baker Mayfield come in your way in a
couple of minutes. However, we're getting reports here from Mark Burman,
sports director at Fox care IV. He's got a blue
check mark and everything that Carlos Correa and the Twins
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have reached agreement on a three year, hundred and five
million dollars deal. Fox Sports and MLB just tweeting it
out as well. Less than a minute ago. Bob Nightingale
again seconds ago, tweeting this out. So Carlos career is
now gone from the astros. Let's call our boss, uh Scotch,
tell him right now. We should call him right now
(28:22):
and tell him here. I'll put him on my cell phone.
All right, go ahead, call him right now and tell him.
Maybe I'll answer. Go ahead, call him and hold it up.
Call him and hold it up. Let's do it. Call it,
hold him up, call it and see if he answers.
All right, I'm calling now. Let's do it. Call it.
Hold up. See if we can hear him. This would
be great. Actually, actually actually it is California. I don't
want to lose my job. It's it's fine. It's ten four. Okay, fine, wow, great,
(28:46):
he wouldn't care. I did text him though, So let's
see if we get a quick response. All right, I'll
start talking about the other Baker Mayfield. Oh no, he's
he's got in a hotel room with sleeping kids. Unfortunately, boo.
If he was a real fan, he would come on
with us. Talk about the twins getting Carlos Correa. Wow,
(29:07):
highest average annual value for an MLBN fielder Carlos Korea.
Now to the Minnesota Twins. So now people can go
boo him boy, Too bad, they don't play with the
trash baggy in right field anymore. People hitting that's into
the trash can. Oh, that would have been awesome. All right,
just people hitting that for fastball's coming. I'm hitting the
trash bag for you. There's no can. I'm hitting the
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bag all That would have been the best. That would
have been the best. Here's here's the response. Still not
buying it until authors confirm it, and those opt outs
scare me. There you go, Oh, so there it is.
Carlos Correa two the Twins for three years and one
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hundred and five million dollars. Now, we talked a lot
today about DeShawn Watson and now that he's a member
of the Browns, and you know clearly Baker Mayfield. It's
been a big part of this conversation. The Browns were
in on Deshaun Watson. He wanted out. Now I don't
want to play there anymore. I thought I was tough
and I was a guy gonna take the NFL by storm,
But now you're going after somebody else. I want to
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be traded. There's only a couple of big places for
Baker Mayfield to land now, one that would be great.
I would love to see him land Is in Carolina
just to see him and Sam Darnold try to duel
it out. I mean that would be the best. You know,
you committed money to Cam Newton, You're gonna give Sam
Darnold twenty million, and you got eighteen million for Baker Mayfield.
Next year, Let's have mediocre quarterbacks that are worth like
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sixty million dollars battled out. So that would be a
great destiny. I would love that, love that love at
that good theater. Seattle would be great because Pete Carroll's
kind of a raw, raw guy, and they're gonna need
some kind of competition for Drew Locke, and he's about
as far away from Cleveland as you can get. Let
him battle it out. Seattle always says they're about competition.
Maybe he can thrive there, maybe because Seattle's going to
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be in that position of, well, we need somebody here.
We got a couple of guys, but we're not sure.
Now he wants to go to Indianapolis. Forget Indianapolis had
enough with quarterbacks who may or may not still be good.
So it is still the best fit for him in
terms of just translating to a squad that looked like
that that gave him such great success in twenty oh yeah. Yeah, yeah,
But but the Indianapolis just did that with Carson White.
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We're not doing it again with Baker Mayfield. I think
he and would get along though, But all right, keep going.
So here's where he should go, and now we get
to a new verb about getting Trubisky. Is where he
should go is Tampa. He should go to Tampa Bay
because this problem has always been not really understanding what
it means to be an NFL quarterback and not getting
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the responsibilities of being a leader and all the off
the field stuff that he can't shut out. Right, he
goes to Tampa Bay for a couple of years, he
plays behind Brady. Brady will show him what it means
to be a quarterback in the NFL. He will learn
a lot. And like Trubisky who went to the Bills
and the Bills were terrific, he didn't do anything the
last years. But as you can see, in the NFL,
(32:00):
you can do nothing and people love you. Again, if
he goes to Tampa and he's he's a model citizen
and he learns and you get good reports out of
him out there in a couple of years, either he
takes over for Tom Brady when Brady leaves, or he
gets another chance like Trabiski, to win a job somewhere,
because that's what it really is for Mayfield. It's not
so much about the performance on the field in this
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I mean, that's a that's part of it, but really
he's been his own worst enemy. So go someplace where
you can be under the radar for a little bit,
learn what it means to be a quarterback, and then
you get a chance in a couple of years to show, hey,
this is what I've learned, and now I'm ready. I
know what it means now to be an NFL quarterback.
Because if he really knew that from the beginning, his
career would be in a different place right now. But
he never did. He thought his arrogance and swagger, I
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can do whatever I want to, I get involved in teammates, businesses,
I can do whatever I want. No, clearly you didn't know,
and that is what helped derail you as a quarterback.
So that's why I like Tampa for him, Yeah, and
that's where it's for me. I'll take Kyle Trask. I'll
take the young guy learning from one right instead of
trying to fix that which is broken. Right. We see
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the word entitled and needing to be humbled is a
phrase that goes with Baker Mayfield a lot. And I
still think he's a pretty good quarterback. But if I'm Tampa,
it's like I got a guy that I'm paying nothing,
and that's where I'm gonna stay. Keep teaching the young
guy for when Brady potentially eventually retires. Who knows it
may never happen. I saw some folks suggesting the Giants
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Brian Dable is he either gonna fix Daniel Jones or
he's bringing in a guy with the temperament of Josh Allen.
He ain't bringing in Baker Mayfield, but Carolina would be
good theater for US. Matt Rule. Which guy gets him fired? Yeah, exactly.
Twittering out about a Fresca, Mike gets swollen dome Brian
No coming up next, Professor Clayton, Rest in peace, my friend.
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