March 19, 2022 • 34 mins
Legendary sports personality John Clayton passed away and Jason Smith and Mike Harmon share their favorite moments and interactions about Clayton. A video surfaced of Los Angeles Lakers guard Russell Westbrook getting in a heated conversation with a heckler in Toronto, but also made a huge three pointer at the end of regulation against the Toronto Raptors and went on to win in overtime. The boys play a little TruTv and NotTV as well here on The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!
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of the first round. It is coal Gate with a
forty one thirty nine lead right now over Wisconsin, just
under fifteen minutes left to go in this game. Look
at col Gate and Mike Carmon, oh my second home
when I was in Syracuse, all the time I spent
on campus. They're going to going to Colgate hockey games
at Star Rank all. It's exciting. It's exciting. Yeah, it's
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good to see the Big ten in in many forms
during this n C Double A tournament, playing as though
it were the three yards in a clouded dust football
of twenty five years ago. I'll tell you that scores,
appointment in offense not great in college basketball. I'll tell
you what what's great about this though? I mean, you know,
as Steve went through the list of winners today, we
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get the is o versus Coach K matchup. I mean,
come on, wouldn't that be great as a if Coach
K actually says, you know what, maybe I'm not done,
but this is a loser leaves town mac c losers
gotta hang it up forever. Let's go. Well, Coach K
is already upset because now he just did his postgame
press conference following the wind by Duke earlier tonight, and
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he was really upset at two things. The court was
very moist and wet, and a couple of players slip,
which I get, Hey, it's dangerous. You gotta make sure
it's it's uh, it's you know that the condensation and
there's not wet spots on it. And you used the
word that nobody likes. It's one that gets people upset. No,
people don't like the word moist. They just don't. They
just don't. You know what my favorite baseball player was,
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who's moisses a lot? Okay, so is that well, no,
we won't go into that. We'll leave that at Uh.
So I was trying to think of something with moist
and it it's it's kind of tough moist moist, moist moist. Anyway. Anyway,
he's also upset because there were no there was no
crowd there yet because of the tight turnaround, UH, to
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let the one crowd out in the other crowd in,
they had to warm up and start the game with
with less than the full crowd. He was very upset
about that. You know, these kids have to have people
in the stands to be able to warm up in
the band playing and and have that entire uh to
get that n C A A experience. I'm like, Okay,
I get you're upset about the wet spots on the floor.
I get it, But really now you're mad at the
fans couldn't get it in time. They couldn't. We could.
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Fans got to be there for the players were able
to play. Okay, I think that's something that that's all right.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry they all couldn't get in time,
all right, but they got there right, they got there.
So really, what you're saying is, uh, had they had
they been there, maybe it wouldn't have been as close
in the first half. Maybe's what Mike Zachowski is trying
to say, wouldn't have you know what, at halftime defending
the final four seconds, you're gonna back your betters. Too
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bad job by you, hey, coach, k How mad were
you that they got that lay up with three point
five left to bust the spread on you? You let
your backers down, coach, I am, I am. It's it's
weird because I am drawn to this storyline. Obviously, Mike
Sachowski leaving and you know all the video tributes you're
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seeing his first when he was introduced as duke head coach.
They ran that video up a lot today when he
got the job in nine coach, you know, Yeah, and
it was like in somebody's office. You know, it's like
a podium, like next to the window where a guy
was sitting. Like that's how they did the introductions back then.
No big press conference, no theater, just I'm in office.
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We'll have a We'll have a couple of photographers. They're
taking pictures. That's what it was like Mike getting introduced
the nineteen eighties duke head coach. Yeah, it's good to
go back down memory land and what and what's interesting
And we talked about it a little bit, uh when
when you took ill uh the other night when Tourist
was in just how for the College Buckets this would
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have been such a bigger story. The NFL crushed it too,
and even in the final couple of r like the
whole season, but certainly in these last couple of weeks
with so much chaos and and rumor surrounding a lot
of the big names, right, Brady was still off on
his forty days sojourn to find himself and whatever Aaron Rodgers,
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what's he doing? Is he retiring? Is he going to
create his own offshoot, uh podcast or game show? Where
what's gonna happen there? I mean so many other permutations
to things that it left College Buckets as a whole,
and even Shachevsky's final games, other than mocking him for
the you know little post game would be pepp Alley
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after admonishing the students for their effort against North Carolina
and then that no show effort against Virginia Tech. I mean,
those had were a blip on the radar overall, and
the College Bucket season. Did we have a lot of
memorable moments. No, it kind of just came along. And
obviously region to region and if you're big into conference
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and all of our affiliates wherever you are, thanks for
listening to us. You know you'd have your local team
and local coverage would be huge. But from a national level,
there just wasn't the same breakthrough where we have three
or four guys and programs that really captivated like there
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In a few minutes, we'll have more on the Deshaun
Watson story. Look, clearly it came to a head today.
I told you could be today. I told you last
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night I think we might get the answer. Today, we
got the answer. Today's down there are really doing And
I told you so on this because I told you
I'm gonna come down the line, and you made fun
of me and said, oh, we could come in any
minute now, we could come into the next five minutes.
I said, no, it seems like this is gonna happen tomorrow,
And it happened today. It really was kind of funny.
And because the way it was, you know, whenever we
have these this could happen. Yes, of course, it could
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happen as early as the next time every refreshed my
Twitter page. Now, but we thought, we thought it was pushed.
It was gonna happen in you know, over the course
of the weekend and by Tuesday. But I'm like, this
is gonna happen. And it was a big left turn
for the Browns. And we'll get to that coming up
in a few minutes. But you know, the story that
we're still kind of shocked by, and and it's you know,
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not now you've most likely heard. John Clayton passed away
earlier today at the age of sixty seven, a guy
who had a five decade career in the sports business,
is a long time insider for esp IN. I was
really close to him spending our time at ESPN and
and and he's at what everybody is saying about him tonight.
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Is is true. He was a gentleman's gentleman. He was
someone who took his job seriously, but didn't take himself
too seriously. Seth Wickersham, I think hit the nail right
on the head with that with his uh oh to
John earlier tonight. People know him from the Slayer commercial
that was so great uh that he did for this
as Sports Center, And you know, so many things that
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I can tell you about about him, about what made
him a great person, and how he spent his entire
life caring for his wife, Pat, who suffered from multiple sclerosis,
and and Pat was one of the most wonderful people
and always it was a firecracker when you would talk
to her, and you know, the two of them together,
you can just tell they had this relationship that worked,
and it was, you know, something where you walk away
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and go, I hope that's what I'm like, you know
a few years from now with my wife, me and
my wife, I hope that's what it's like. As you
can see the care they had for each other. But professionally,
for a second, um is that John Clayton was j
Glazer and Adam Schefter before these guys took what it
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meant to be an NFL insider and and in the
two thousands brought it to that next level, right, because
that's what that's what it's all about. It's all about.
You know, certain people who are who are groundbreakers and
conduits to the next generation. And now you see what
Jay and Adam Schefter are able to do constantly tweeting
out breaking news and how they work and it happens
all the time, and now the industry is a minute
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by minute thing. John Clayton came around. He first hit
our TV screens in the mid nineties when I was
a production assistant at ESPN before I knew him later,
you know, and when he was on my show all
the time on ESPN, and uh he was when he
was the first guy where every Friday he would do
a report and I always inside the huddle, that was
what it was called. I couldn't think because he took
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over from Fred Edelstein, who did in the end Zone
with Fred Edelstein, and then he left in fred Edelstein
had issues after his after a sign of ESPN, and
then John Clayton and he did inside the Huddle and
this was back you know, in in ninety six, you
didn't get inside news all the time. You only got
it when you watch Sports Center, for you know, three
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times a day, whether you watch at six o'clock or
at eleven o'clock or two in the morning, that's the
only time you really got news. You never got this
twenty four hours a day news cycle. And people would
wait because every Friday, John Clayton would take a segment
called Inside the Huddle and it would run on every
single Sports Center because it was John Clayton with inside information.
You know, I spoke to the Seahawks today and their
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planet and their planet running back is to move on
from Chris Warren. He's gonna get traded. The Dallas Cowboys
are a likely destination. Like these are the kind of
things that he had that you would have to wait
until Friday at three o'clock to find out. And I
mean Friday at three o'clock because when he would send
his his segments in and he would do all you do,
all his stand ups and all the talking, we would
all watch around the the TV prock that it that
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it was fed in on satellite wise, because he wanted
to see what he was gonna talk about. What he
gonna tell us? What what? What big NFL news he
gonna say, because it was stuff that we got to
talk about, you know, three hours before anybody else knew,
because that's when it would go on TV. But his
segments were so popular inside the huddle was so popular,
and it was just a musty for everybody because that's
when you had breaking news. And John Clayton was the
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first guy to have that. And and he would always say, oh,
I talked to so and so, I talked to so,
and Soto's, Oh my goodness. And and he he really
was the conduit from what TV was in the nineties
to with with the birth of ESPN and now suddenly
twenty four hour sports is a thing, and John Clayton
brought it into where we are now, where it's constant
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news breaking with Schefter and Jay and with Wild Gnarowski
and Ken Rosenthal and John Paul Morossi and all these guys.
And and he was the first guy that did that,
and and it was and just thinking back to that
about how everything he did was such a musty because
we knew he was talking to everybody, you know, like
him and Peter Gammon's were the two guys at ESPN
Wars what are you hearing? What are you saying? Right?
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And John Clayton was always was never really in Connecticut,
so but Peter Gammons would come in on Sundays to
do baseball Tonights would always kind of stand there where
Peter Gammonds was going, maybe he's gonna say something. Hey,
I'm just gonna stand here for a second. Maybe he
said something I really like. Maybe he does. But John
Clayt would always send his inn via satellite, so he
wasn't in Bristol all that much, but he was that
person everybody wanted to know what he said, and then
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his segments were then played all weekend. Here's John Clayton
on what's going on with the Browns And here's John
Clayton on the Patriots who we're gonna fire Bill Belt
whatever it is, and and uh, I just kind of
threw that out there and that that's that's what That
was his impact and inside the huddle had a good
ten plus year run because if I'm if I'm getting
it right in my timeline, like Jay Glazer, I think
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right around like two thousand and to two thousand and
three started to to to break the mold for Okay,
Now I'm a twenty four hour you know, insider and
I'm coming on the radio with stuff and I'm breaking
news and I'm doing and Chris Mortenson was the same
at ESPN, but right, but it was John Clayed for
a good eight to ten years where he was the
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TV guy doing it and you had to wait a while,
You had to wait for his reports on Friday. I
don't know. Sometimes they said, hey, can we start doing
it on Tuesdays too? And it was like, oh my god,
that's so much. We had to get a segment on
Friday in a segment on Tuesday. Now, it's like, dude,
you gotta be ready every five minutes with something. But
he really was that groundbreaker, man, And I don't know
that people understand that. That's, you know, his real legacy
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to to the sports and you know, as we're going
to talk about the commercial and the Slayer commercial and
and how nice a guy he was, which is legit
and what everybody is telling you, whatever you're reading about
John Clayton is absolutely what he was like, because he
was just that nice of a person and that good
of a person. But that's really the legacy that he
leaves is that. Remember he was that first guy that
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kind of brought it into the modern era. And what
we know about insiders right now, well all those relationships
when he showed up on set, right, it's the argument
I've been making all along now that you know the
embargoes off and all the deals are made with with
Buck and Aikman head in the YESPN or whatever else,
like it's appointment viewing right when those guys are on
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a game, it feels big. Likewise, Clayton showed up on
a set or you heard he was coming up on
a radio show, it was a big deal. He and
Seawan Salisbury when they'd go back and forth at each other.
I mean that was this this side of w w
E interviews, the two of those guys going back and
forth at each other. But all of his appearances, you
knew there was some good and when before sources became
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a four letter word right and got the pejorative put
on it, uh And still sometimes that there's disdain for
the for that showing up in articles you know, the
old put your name on it or you know, depending
on who the person delivering the messages doesn't carry the
same weight. With John it always did and always you know,
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we'll always remember that. And you know, just reading the
timeline tonight, obviously the Slayer commercial as you mentioned, and
we we've been playing Slayer most of the night, so
you'll you'll hear some heavy riffs along the way. I
mean that that's monumental, right. Those series of commercials in
general were just brainchild genius kind of stuff, but him
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playing along with it because he was an ending meta guy.
He was the guy, you know, they called him the professor,
came on TV, spoke with authority, all right, did you
guys learn something cool? See you later. I'm out, you know,
that kind of thing, and you know my interactions with him,
he was a guy that you know, sat at you know,
fantasy football conventions and answered every question painstaking lee even
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though he'd already said, it's like, well, let's go through
that running back rotation again, let's think about their offensive line,
let's do all of those things. He owes me a
beer because I told him Jerivicious would be an impact
player for the Seahawks, had a career best ten touchdowns
that year. He was telling me I was nuts the
entire time on stage. I don't listen to him he's
in because obviously being in Seattle right as he was
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for much of his his career. You know, it's the uh,
the I he of no, no, no, I know that
he's not gonna be now he's gonna be a red
zone guy. I'm telling he's not great arguments and he
was a great sparring partner with that stuff. But just
the number of people that were starting out in the business.
We talked with Jason Cole last hour, the number of
people showing pictures of Clayton with them as they started
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their careers, didn't matter what their network affiliation was, who
they were writing for. It's like, yeah, I was, you know,
and nobody working for paper X in a small town.
And he still sought me out because something he read
when he was coming in to cover a game. So
we talked about it, and like all of these on
the timeline, it's just absolutely amazing, And you know, I
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hope he understands what he meant to people in this business,
as we always do, and we take this away to
our individual lives to always remember to tell people what
we think, uh, and hope that people do the same
for us. That you hear a little bit of it
while you're here, Uh, to recognize that you've had an
impact on folks, because uh, you know, I I hope
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for like point one per cent of the love that
he's getting, because I mean that is just fantastic stuff.
John Clayton Rest in peace, sixty seven years old. Be
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bast friend Mike Harmon. Four minutes ago on the second
half Wisconsin final game of the night, on top of
Cold Gate fifty eight to fifty two. Cold Gate has
been hanging tough so far. You got a home game
against a fourteen seed and you can't put them away.
That guy looks like Big Country Reeves running around for
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coal Gate in the middle, or or the guy that
was hanging out with Zod in Superman two. It's the
greatness of the writer, except this, it's it's the cold
Gate Raiders. Um. So, before we get into Deshaun Watson,
just just this for a second here. Uh, there's video
circulating that has come after the Lakers win tonight over Toronto. Yes,
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it's documented. The Lakers won a basketball game tonight thanks
to Russell Westbrook who made his signature play as a
Laker with a steel in the final seconds of regulation
and a three that I'm still not sure he didn't
have his foot on the line on but it was
counted as a three. The Lakers win in over time,
and it's it's the best moment Russell Westbrooks had with
the Lakers. And then there's video circulating of a fan
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and he getting into it verbally after the game tonight.
The fan is on him saying, Russell, I love you, man,
That's why I say these things about you. And Russell
and he are going back and forth on it. Uh,
it's saying, you know, Russell's tell him not to keep talking.
And the guys the guy said, but Russell, I love you.
I'm a fan of yours. And then the guy walks
away and he goes, Russell, you're a goof and then
he runs away laughing, and you know, I look at
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this and I go, you know, Russell Westbrook, you just
gotta find a way to not listen to everything everybody says.
Because as much as it's been this year of Hey,
Russell Westbrook, and I give him a lot of credit
because through all this, this this this horrendous year for
the Lakers, and he's getting the brunt of it. He's
been pretty good about it. But you know, when stuff
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like this happens, you know how much he hears what
people say. You know how much he hears what's said
about him on social media. And it matters a great deal.
And and you know, my my one wish for players
is that you know what social media and and always
being up on what it's not for everybody. And when
you come out and say and you know, I get
what he was doing trying to defend his wife a
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few days ago with what people are saying to or
we get defending his his kids in school. I get
what he's saying. But all that's gonna do is make
people what No, we got to you now. So now
we're gonna we're gonna do more of this stuff. We're
gonna heckle you more when I see you. It's it's
really difficult, but sometimes you just gotta you just gotta
understand that, Okay, social media and and and being beholden
to everybody and paying attention to everything. Maybe that's not
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the best thing for me. Maybe I just really do
have to shut it all out and go play, right,
And you hear that all the time from players, I
gotta shut it all out and go play. No, he
really needs to shut it all out and just go play.
But it's it's really hard in this error now with
every athlete being so hyper aware of everything that's said
about them. There's something to be said for the fact
that before we got to this point, you know, athletes
could be hated and Okay, I'm still gonna go live
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my regular life and when I meet somebody in the street,
they're gonna be very nice to me. And now it's
not the case anymore. And that's something I wish athletes
could go back and go. Man, with all this Twitter
stuff and everything else on social media, we thought it
was gonna be a great thing. I wish we could
go back and there be no Twitter. I guarantee you
every athlete would say I wish there could be no
Twitter because it would really help me my and my
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my frame of mind going into games knowing that I'm
a target of fans wrath and what people want to
say about me. Because that that's the one thing that
athletes can't get away from now. And Russell West was
a big example of it. Well, especially when you invite
it by trying to push it off, because what's gonna happen?
It's that one percent, Right. We talked about it all
the time. You know, we could read mean tweets, some
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of which are not FCC compliant, some are from the
same three accounts that try to get deep, and it's like, no,
you obviously didn't listen to anything we actually just said,
because really it was quite the opposite of what you're
trying to assert when it comes to you know, sports
outside of the box score world. Uh, you know, we
get deeper into into the weeds with some of this
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stuff where many are afraid to go. And what does
that do? That means the one percent are gonna yell
at you. Yes, I'm gonna use the one percent in
a different term here, uh, and not from a pejorative,
just from us straight. That's what you get, right. Collins
talked about it, Dougs talked about it, Rob Chris ben
and then everybody gets you know, folks that want to
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see if you'll respond Jonas and and LaVar I saw
quite a bit when he and I worked together on Sundays.
Folks would get mad at him, and it's like, Okay,
you're listening kind of and you're you're getting an emotion
and a reaction, and that's the hope is right. Love us,
hate us, don't be indifferent, but also be realistic about
what you're saying. But guarantee you know, if you had
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say a thousand people, you might have one might do
anything other than shake your hand, asked for a picture
for some of those guys and autograph whatever, or tell
you how much they love your show. You'd have one
person that might pipe out trying to get a reaction.
Right now, Russell Westbrook with his impassioned response, you've seen
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a couple of them, right You saw with this in
the street, But you also saw the pregame shoot around
the other night, or a action and reaction they can
catch on tape, got your video in a whole other way.
Whereas most athletes, I think, still recognize there's a lot
of good and brand building that can be done. Unfortunately, uh,
you can't guard against the lunatic fringe. Twitter heard how
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advice for all that would be would be the athletes
to say, if you can't handle all this stuff, just
do your thing, man, don't worry about all the other crap.
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Just do your thing. And Russell Westbrook's that guy. He
needs to do his thing. Um. But from we'll have
more basketball coming up, we'll have Steve to say, or
with an update coming up in a few minutes, what's
going on in the n c A tournament, the night
in the NBA. But with the trade today, the shocking trade,
and everybody's got a time to get used to it now.
If DeShawn Watson suddenly becoming a member of the Cleveland Browns,
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we thought it was going to be between Atlanta and
New Orleans. And then a big left turn was made
when Adam Schefter tweets out Deshaun Watsons had a change
of heart, wants to go to the Browns, and within
ten minutes reports were out of a contract and a trade.
So the Browns get DeShawn Watson two and thirty million
dollars and guaranteed money he is getting. They trade three
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first round picks, a third round pick, and a fourth
round pick in exchange for Watson. Now, normally it was
we talked about the a f C West as it's
loading up. Um, the Bengals went to the Super Bowl.
They're still gonna be really good, right, the Ravens of
the Ravens lamar Jackson if they can figure out, Hey,
the Ravens are still good. The Steelers are always gonna
be there. They're never gonna stink because that's just not
(23:26):
in their DNA. Uh. The brown should win the a
f C North pretty easy as long as Watson is
able to play the majority of the game. If he
could play ten or more games, they should win. Because
this Browns team is loaded with talent. They have everything
they need. It's why I said the Browns, Yeah, I
see this decision for Deshaun Watson, because well, New Orleans
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is starting over with Dennis Allen. Are they gonna be
any good? You don't know? Atlanta? Is Arthur Smith a
good head coach. You don't know Matt Rule could be
gone from Carolina all the finalists for him. Uh yeah.
Kevin Stefants is a good head coach. The Browns have
a really good roster they have built they they have
built a really good team. That's why I picked him
for the a f C Championship last year. And what
did they get? They had bad quarterback play and you
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were not able to win games where they had to
rely on Baker may feel to do it. And they
had built a solid running game, a good offensive line,
weapons at tight end, a good defense. They had everything.
This is a really talented roster. They just couldn't get
out of their own way at quarterback. And clearly the
drama with is Baker the guy? Is he not? Is
something that seeped into the team because Baker can't let
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that go and he always had. He couldn't find a
way to be mentally tough enough to shut it out
and be able to go play. Speaking of guys who
need to stay away from social or to just sit
down order to do if you're you're hurt, and that's
part of Stefanski too, But obviously at Baker sayings good
to go, they're gonna put him out there. But anybody
that had the eye test, like I look, commend him
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for trying to play through injury. But all it did
was show that you weren't right. And now that's part
the resume as they moved forward and they exercised your
fifth year option. But since you didn't get your bag,
clearly they had decided they either needed to see more
or they were done, one or the other. But you know,
playing hurt did him no service. Yeah, a little bit
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of Yeah, you're tough, but you think about the opportunities
frittered away when he was healthy. You're not gonna be
any better when you're hurt. Doesn't have to worry about
my left arm. Oh no, you're gonna steak. You're looking right.
But for the first couple of weeks of a season,
normally we say, well, since you didn't play in the preseason,
teams kind of get a pass, right because look what
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happened with Indianapolis, right, they started terribly and then it
got right, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh,
you included uh, you know, you were mad that you
got you backed off him, and then you you got
mad that you did back off them. Right, and I
was like, oh, here they come. This was the team
I envisioned. And then they what they do? They Carson? Yeah,
(25:58):
the Carson went down down stretch. But it's that kind
of thing, right, It's an ebb and flow, and certainly
the first couple of weeks of a season don't define
it necessarily. But as soon as the wacky Doctor's game
operations started to hand happen where every week it was
a new piece of his body that was hurt. Like
at some point is case keenum at case keenum dumb uh?
(26:20):
Not as good as a hurt Baker, Mayfield and Stefanski
never pulled the trigger. Why I'll never know, but you know,
but the the that's my whole thing with with where
they're at now is that they needed to make that
move and now they've done it. Right now, now they
got their quarterbin. Deshaun Watson's top fortune favors the bold.
It's just it's just is he going to be eligible
(26:43):
to play? Because you know there's likely an NFL suspension coming, right,
and let's say if it is something like it's half
the season and then it gets appealed down to six games. Okay, Yeah,
if there's not a suspension, all hell breaks loose. Yeah,
if there's more than half the sea and that changes things.
But if he's playing ten or eleven games at least,
(27:04):
then yeah, I feel pretty confident. The Browns are strong
enough to win that division. And they're they're they're they're
just more to They're talented up and down, and now
they'll have a quarterback they know it's going to be
able to make the plays on the field. This is it.
I mean, the brown should win this division. They should
be the a f C North champions. Cooper and Joeku
People's jones hang a star on him, fantasy owners. Uh,
(27:26):
you may have to reach around earlier uh to get him, uh,
depending on Watson's availability, of course. But and then you
get Kareem Hunt back alongside Nick Chub. I mean, there's
fantastic work on that offensivehead. I'm still quoth the raven
as much as I love by Mitchell Trobinsky arrival in Pittsburgh.
Don't get me wrong. I'll take Lamar and A and
(27:48):
a retooled and healthy UH Ravens squad out of the gate.
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True TV or not TV. I give you the television show.
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Your job is to tell me whether it is a
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that airs on True TV. Because look, we're at the
end of the run now. This is the week that
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and you won't watch it again the rest of the year.
So let's get everybody just a little bit in comfortable
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on True TV or if it's made up entirely by
me playing as myself. Mike Harmon, Steve Sager, Alex tishert
are ready. I'm ready. Those who can't A comedy series
about teachers who cause constant trouble at their school? Is
that a True TV show or not? You we're watching
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that movie with Kevin Hart and it inspired you. Those
who can A comedy series about teachers who cause constant
trouble at their school. I should know more about that.
I'll say yes. Okay, I'm gonna say no, Jay, I
think you made this one up, all right, Okay, Harmon,
I said no, you said no, those who can't is
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a true TV really is? Yes, potentially problematic, exposing the
failures of the school district. Murder Which Way similar to
the y A Which Way books, This dramatic show allows
viewers to make plot choices and commercial breaks, with the
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most popular version being aired in the next segment. Murder
Which Way Similar to y A Which Way books, This
dramatic show allows viewers to make plot choices in commercial breaks,
with the most popular version being aired in the next segment.
For instance, Hey, do you think Betty is the killer
or should be the killer? And whoever votes? If more
people vote John, the next segment is one that shows
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you John being the in your maybe but yeah TV,
I'll say no, Okay, you know what, I love it. No, man,
I feel like that would be such a good way
to get people interactive with the show. I'm gonna say yeah.
I'm gonna say yeah. Hopefully it is. You said interactive, right,
I was wondering because should I say something else? I
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don't know. It sounded like you were talking about people
in Iraq, and I was like, Murder Which Way is
not a TV show, It is made up by me.
But boy, that would be a good show, especially if
it was narrated by the Iron Chet based on the
Way Tight Shirt. Temporary Insanity scripted show where comedians pos
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as temp employees and sabotage the day to day operations
of their workplace. Temporary Insanity a scripted show where comedians
poses temper yees and sabotage the day to day operations
of their workplace. No, but again, it should be it
should be right, Yeah, that's easy. The comedy Store to
go straight down the street and raise hell seems like premise. Yeah, man, Jason,
(32:15):
this one is actually tough, dude. That's tough, man, that's tough.
That's your best one so far these days, I'm gonna
say as well. No, but it should be that is
not a true TV show. That that's fantastic. We should
go down to Sunset Strip tonight and uh go talk
to some folks about green lighting this. Are we going
(32:36):
to hear about that cooking show? Sweet Dreams Are Made
of Cheese? Do you like that one? Right? That's any
Lenox right on for with her agent right now, going
get me on this show. Blood Lake. Blood Lake a
reality show where people sign up to endure a slash
or menacing their sleepaway camp, the last person standing is
the winner, and after every pretend to kill, the person
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is drowned in a bucket of blood to show they've
been eliminated. I thought the loser goes on the fire.
That's fantastic, but I think that's actually the title of
a Slayer song Blood Lake reality show where people sign
up a slasher menacing their sleepaway camp. The last person
standing is the winner. After every pretend to kill, the
person is based is drownding a bucket of blood to
(33:21):
show they've been eliminated. It sounds like one of your
dark fantasies. Jay, Okay, that's that's that's a Friday Night
left hern Hey right, that's a no okay No. Blood
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on stage on tour with eighties and nineties bands Rat
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We'll do it on a cruise line too. Musicians competing
to play on stage on tour with eighties and nineties
bands Rat and Winger. Why not No, but I love
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burned Down? Yes, Steve, you better not be right. It's no.
That is not a true. So great though, headed for
a break down the tournament, one of the mare most
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to go here night to night four, but day two
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of the first round. It is coal Gate with a
forty one thirty nine lead right now over Wisconsin, just
under fifteen minutes left to go in this game. Look
at col Gate and Mike Carmon, oh my second home
when I was in Syracuse, all the time I spent
on campus. They're going to going to Colgate hockey games
at Star Rank all. It's exciting. It's exciting. Yeah, it's
(01:06):
good to see the Big ten in in many forms
during this n C Double A tournament, playing as though
it were the three yards in a clouded dust football
of twenty five years ago. I'll tell you that scores,
appointment in offense not great in college basketball. I'll tell
you what what's great about this though? I mean, you know,
as Steve went through the list of winners today, we
(01:28):
get the is o versus Coach K matchup. I mean,
come on, wouldn't that be great as a if Coach
K actually says, you know what, maybe I'm not done,
but this is a loser leaves town mac c losers
gotta hang it up forever. Let's go. Well, Coach K
is already upset because now he just did his postgame
press conference following the wind by Duke earlier tonight, and
(01:50):
he was really upset at two things. The court was
very moist and wet, and a couple of players slip,
which I get, Hey, it's dangerous. You gotta make sure
it's it's uh, it's you know that the condensation and
there's not wet spots on it. And you used the
word that nobody likes. It's one that gets people upset. No,
people don't like the word moist. They just don't. They
just don't. You know what my favorite baseball player was,
(02:10):
who's moisses a lot? Okay, so is that well, no,
we won't go into that. We'll leave that at Uh.
So I was trying to think of something with moist
and it it's it's kind of tough moist moist, moist moist. Anyway. Anyway,
he's also upset because there were no there was no
crowd there yet because of the tight turnaround, UH, to
(02:30):
let the one crowd out in the other crowd in,
they had to warm up and start the game with
with less than the full crowd. He was very upset
about that. You know, these kids have to have people
in the stands to be able to warm up in
the band playing and and have that entire uh to
get that n C A A experience. I'm like, Okay,
I get you're upset about the wet spots on the floor.
I get it, But really now you're mad at the
fans couldn't get it in time. They couldn't. We could.
(02:52):
Fans got to be there for the players were able
to play. Okay, I think that's something that that's all right.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry they all couldn't get in time,
all right, but they got there right, they got there.
So really, what you're saying is, uh, had they had
they been there, maybe it wouldn't have been as close
in the first half. Maybe's what Mike Zachowski is trying
to say, wouldn't have you know what, at halftime defending
the final four seconds, you're gonna back your betters. Too
(03:14):
bad job by you, hey, coach, k How mad were
you that they got that lay up with three point
five left to bust the spread on you? You let
your backers down, coach, I am, I am. It's it's
weird because I am drawn to this storyline. Obviously, Mike
Sachowski leaving and you know all the video tributes you're
(03:37):
seeing his first when he was introduced as duke head coach.
They ran that video up a lot today when he
got the job in nine coach, you know, Yeah, and
it was like in somebody's office. You know, it's like
a podium, like next to the window where a guy
was sitting. Like that's how they did the introductions back then.
No big press conference, no theater, just I'm in office.
(03:59):
We'll have a We'll have a couple of photographers. They're
taking pictures. That's what it was like Mike getting introduced
the nineteen eighties duke head coach. Yeah, it's good to
go back down memory land and what and what's interesting
And we talked about it a little bit, uh when
when you took ill uh the other night when Tourist
was in just how for the College Buckets this would
(04:19):
have been such a bigger story. The NFL crushed it too,
and even in the final couple of r like the
whole season, but certainly in these last couple of weeks
with so much chaos and and rumor surrounding a lot
of the big names, right, Brady was still off on
his forty days sojourn to find himself and whatever Aaron Rodgers,
(04:39):
what's he doing? Is he retiring? Is he going to
create his own offshoot, uh podcast or game show? Where
what's gonna happen there? I mean so many other permutations
to things that it left College Buckets as a whole,
and even Shachevsky's final games, other than mocking him for
the you know little post game would be pepp Alley
(05:00):
after admonishing the students for their effort against North Carolina
and then that no show effort against Virginia Tech. I mean,
those had were a blip on the radar overall, and
the College Bucket season. Did we have a lot of
memorable moments. No, it kind of just came along. And
obviously region to region and if you're big into conference
(05:20):
and all of our affiliates wherever you are, thanks for
listening to us. You know you'd have your local team
and local coverage would be huge. But from a national level,
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In a few minutes, we'll have more on the Deshaun
Watson story. Look, clearly it came to a head today.
I told you could be today. I told you last
(06:02):
night I think we might get the answer. Today, we
got the answer. Today's down there are really doing And
I told you so on this because I told you
I'm gonna come down the line, and you made fun
of me and said, oh, we could come in any
minute now, we could come into the next five minutes.
I said, no, it seems like this is gonna happen tomorrow,
And it happened today. It really was kind of funny.
And because the way it was, you know, whenever we
have these this could happen. Yes, of course, it could
(06:26):
happen as early as the next time every refreshed my
Twitter page. Now, but we thought, we thought it was pushed.
It was gonna happen in you know, over the course
of the weekend and by Tuesday. But I'm like, this
is gonna happen. And it was a big left turn
for the Browns. And we'll get to that coming up
in a few minutes. But you know, the story that
we're still kind of shocked by, and and it's you know,
(06:47):
not now you've most likely heard. John Clayton passed away
earlier today at the age of sixty seven, a guy
who had a five decade career in the sports business,
is a long time insider for esp IN. I was
really close to him spending our time at ESPN and
and and he's at what everybody is saying about him tonight.
(07:07):
Is is true. He was a gentleman's gentleman. He was
someone who took his job seriously, but didn't take himself
too seriously. Seth Wickersham, I think hit the nail right
on the head with that with his uh oh to
John earlier tonight. People know him from the Slayer commercial
that was so great uh that he did for this
as Sports Center, And you know, so many things that
(07:28):
I can tell you about about him, about what made
him a great person, and how he spent his entire
life caring for his wife, Pat, who suffered from multiple sclerosis,
and and Pat was one of the most wonderful people
and always it was a firecracker when you would talk
to her, and you know, the two of them together,
you can just tell they had this relationship that worked,
and it was, you know, something where you walk away
(07:49):
and go, I hope that's what I'm like, you know
a few years from now with my wife, me and
my wife, I hope that's what it's like. As you
can see the care they had for each other. But professionally,
for a second, um is that John Clayton was j
Glazer and Adam Schefter before these guys took what it
(08:09):
meant to be an NFL insider and and in the
two thousands brought it to that next level, right, because
that's what that's what it's all about. It's all about.
You know, certain people who are who are groundbreakers and
conduits to the next generation. And now you see what
Jay and Adam Schefter are able to do constantly tweeting
out breaking news and how they work and it happens
all the time, and now the industry is a minute
(08:31):
by minute thing. John Clayton came around. He first hit
our TV screens in the mid nineties when I was
a production assistant at ESPN before I knew him later,
you know, and when he was on my show all
the time on ESPN, and uh he was when he
was the first guy where every Friday he would do
a report and I always inside the huddle, that was
what it was called. I couldn't think because he took
(08:52):
over from Fred Edelstein, who did in the end Zone
with Fred Edelstein, and then he left in fred Edelstein
had issues after his after a sign of ESPN, and
then John Clayton and he did inside the Huddle and
this was back you know, in in ninety six, you
didn't get inside news all the time. You only got
it when you watch Sports Center, for you know, three
(09:13):
times a day, whether you watch at six o'clock or
at eleven o'clock or two in the morning, that's the
only time you really got news. You never got this
twenty four hours a day news cycle. And people would
wait because every Friday, John Clayton would take a segment
called Inside the Huddle and it would run on every
single Sports Center because it was John Clayton with inside information.
You know, I spoke to the Seahawks today and their
(09:35):
planet and their planet running back is to move on
from Chris Warren. He's gonna get traded. The Dallas Cowboys
are a likely destination. Like these are the kind of
things that he had that you would have to wait
until Friday at three o'clock to find out. And I
mean Friday at three o'clock because when he would send
his his segments in and he would do all you do,
all his stand ups and all the talking, we would
all watch around the the TV prock that it that
(09:56):
it was fed in on satellite wise, because he wanted
to see what he was gonna talk about. What he
gonna tell us? What what? What big NFL news he
gonna say, because it was stuff that we got to
talk about, you know, three hours before anybody else knew,
because that's when it would go on TV. But his
segments were so popular inside the huddle was so popular,
and it was just a musty for everybody because that's
when you had breaking news. And John Clayton was the
(10:18):
first guy to have that. And and he would always say, oh,
I talked to so and so, I talked to so,
and Soto's, Oh my goodness. And and he he really
was the conduit from what TV was in the nineties
to with with the birth of ESPN and now suddenly
twenty four hour sports is a thing, and John Clayton
brought it into where we are now, where it's constant
(10:38):
news breaking with Schefter and Jay and with Wild Gnarowski
and Ken Rosenthal and John Paul Morossi and all these guys.
And and he was the first guy that did that,
and and it was and just thinking back to that
about how everything he did was such a musty because
we knew he was talking to everybody, you know, like
him and Peter Gammon's were the two guys at ESPN
Wars what are you hearing? What are you saying? Right?
(11:00):
And John Clayton was always was never really in Connecticut,
so but Peter Gammons would come in on Sundays to
do baseball Tonights would always kind of stand there where
Peter Gammonds was going, maybe he's gonna say something. Hey,
I'm just gonna stand here for a second. Maybe he
said something I really like. Maybe he does. But John
Clayt would always send his inn via satellite, so he
wasn't in Bristol all that much, but he was that
person everybody wanted to know what he said, and then
(11:21):
his segments were then played all weekend. Here's John Clayton
on what's going on with the Browns And here's John
Clayton on the Patriots who we're gonna fire Bill Belt
whatever it is, and and uh, I just kind of
threw that out there and that that's that's what That
was his impact and inside the huddle had a good
ten plus year run because if I'm if I'm getting
it right in my timeline, like Jay Glazer, I think
(11:44):
right around like two thousand and to two thousand and
three started to to to break the mold for Okay,
Now I'm a twenty four hour you know, insider and
I'm coming on the radio with stuff and I'm breaking
news and I'm doing and Chris Mortenson was the same
at ESPN, but right, but it was John Clayed for
a good eight to ten years where he was the
(12:05):
TV guy doing it and you had to wait a while,
You had to wait for his reports on Friday. I
don't know. Sometimes they said, hey, can we start doing
it on Tuesdays too? And it was like, oh my god,
that's so much. We had to get a segment on
Friday in a segment on Tuesday. Now, it's like, dude,
you gotta be ready every five minutes with something. But
he really was that groundbreaker, man, And I don't know
that people understand that. That's, you know, his real legacy
(12:26):
to to the sports and you know, as we're going
to talk about the commercial and the Slayer commercial and
and how nice a guy he was, which is legit
and what everybody is telling you, whatever you're reading about
John Clayton is absolutely what he was like, because he
was just that nice of a person and that good
of a person. But that's really the legacy that he
leaves is that. Remember he was that first guy that
(12:47):
kind of brought it into the modern era. And what
we know about insiders right now, well all those relationships
when he showed up on set, right, it's the argument
I've been making all along now that you know the
embargoes off and all the deals are made with with
Buck and Aikman head in the YESPN or whatever else,
like it's appointment viewing right when those guys are on
(13:09):
a game, it feels big. Likewise, Clayton showed up on
a set or you heard he was coming up on
a radio show, it was a big deal. He and
Seawan Salisbury when they'd go back and forth at each other.
I mean that was this this side of w w
E interviews, the two of those guys going back and
forth at each other. But all of his appearances, you
knew there was some good and when before sources became
(13:32):
a four letter word right and got the pejorative put
on it, uh And still sometimes that there's disdain for
the for that showing up in articles you know, the
old put your name on it or you know, depending
on who the person delivering the messages doesn't carry the
same weight. With John it always did and always you know,
(13:54):
we'll always remember that. And you know, just reading the
timeline tonight, obviously the Slayer commercial as you mentioned, and
we we've been playing Slayer most of the night, so
you'll you'll hear some heavy riffs along the way. I
mean that that's monumental, right. Those series of commercials in
general were just brainchild genius kind of stuff, but him
(14:16):
playing along with it because he was an ending meta guy.
He was the guy, you know, they called him the professor,
came on TV, spoke with authority, all right, did you
guys learn something cool? See you later. I'm out, you know,
that kind of thing, and you know my interactions with him,
he was a guy that you know, sat at you know,
fantasy football conventions and answered every question painstaking lee even
(14:40):
though he'd already said, it's like, well, let's go through
that running back rotation again, let's think about their offensive line,
let's do all of those things. He owes me a
beer because I told him Jerivicious would be an impact
player for the Seahawks, had a career best ten touchdowns
that year. He was telling me I was nuts the
entire time on stage. I don't listen to him he's
in because obviously being in Seattle right as he was
(15:03):
for much of his his career. You know, it's the uh,
the I he of no, no, no, I know that
he's not gonna be now he's gonna be a red
zone guy. I'm telling he's not great arguments and he
was a great sparring partner with that stuff. But just
the number of people that were starting out in the business.
We talked with Jason Cole last hour, the number of
people showing pictures of Clayton with them as they started
(15:26):
their careers, didn't matter what their network affiliation was, who
they were writing for. It's like, yeah, I was, you know,
and nobody working for paper X in a small town.
And he still sought me out because something he read
when he was coming in to cover a game. So
we talked about it, and like all of these on
the timeline, it's just absolutely amazing, And you know, I
(15:47):
hope he understands what he meant to people in this business,
as we always do, and we take this away to
our individual lives to always remember to tell people what
we think, uh, and hope that people do the same
for us. That you hear a little bit of it
while you're here, Uh, to recognize that you've had an
impact on folks, because uh, you know, I I hope
(16:09):
for like point one per cent of the love that
he's getting, because I mean that is just fantastic stuff.
John Clayton Rest in peace, sixty seven years old. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show
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app Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My
(16:32):
bast friend Mike Harmon. Four minutes ago on the second
half Wisconsin final game of the night, on top of
Cold Gate fifty eight to fifty two. Cold Gate has
been hanging tough so far. You got a home game
against a fourteen seed and you can't put them away.
That guy looks like Big Country Reeves running around for
(16:53):
coal Gate in the middle, or or the guy that
was hanging out with Zod in Superman two. It's the
greatness of the writer, except this, it's it's the cold
Gate Raiders. Um. So, before we get into Deshaun Watson,
just just this for a second here. Uh, there's video
circulating that has come after the Lakers win tonight over Toronto. Yes,
(17:13):
it's documented. The Lakers won a basketball game tonight thanks
to Russell Westbrook who made his signature play as a
Laker with a steel in the final seconds of regulation
and a three that I'm still not sure he didn't
have his foot on the line on but it was
counted as a three. The Lakers win in over time,
and it's it's the best moment Russell Westbrooks had with
the Lakers. And then there's video circulating of a fan
(17:36):
and he getting into it verbally after the game tonight.
The fan is on him saying, Russell, I love you, man,
That's why I say these things about you. And Russell
and he are going back and forth on it. Uh,
it's saying, you know, Russell's tell him not to keep talking.
And the guys the guy said, but Russell, I love you.
I'm a fan of yours. And then the guy walks
away and he goes, Russell, you're a goof and then
he runs away laughing, and you know, I look at
(17:57):
this and I go, you know, Russell Westbrook, you just
gotta find a way to not listen to everything everybody says.
Because as much as it's been this year of Hey,
Russell Westbrook, and I give him a lot of credit
because through all this, this this this horrendous year for
the Lakers, and he's getting the brunt of it. He's
been pretty good about it. But you know, when stuff
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like this happens, you know how much he hears what
people say. You know how much he hears what's said
about him on social media. And it matters a great deal.
And and you know, my my one wish for players
is that you know what social media and and always
being up on what it's not for everybody. And when
you come out and say and you know, I get
what he was doing trying to defend his wife a
(18:40):
few days ago with what people are saying to or
we get defending his his kids in school. I get
what he's saying. But all that's gonna do is make
people what No, we got to you now. So now
we're gonna we're gonna do more of this stuff. We're
gonna heckle you more when I see you. It's it's
really difficult, but sometimes you just gotta you just gotta
understand that, Okay, social media and and and being beholden
to everybody and paying attention to everything. Maybe that's not
(19:02):
the best thing for me. Maybe I just really do
have to shut it all out and go play, right,
And you hear that all the time from players, I
gotta shut it all out and go play. No, he
really needs to shut it all out and just go play.
But it's it's really hard in this error now with
every athlete being so hyper aware of everything that's said
about them. There's something to be said for the fact
that before we got to this point, you know, athletes
could be hated and Okay, I'm still gonna go live
(19:24):
my regular life and when I meet somebody in the street,
they're gonna be very nice to me. And now it's
not the case anymore. And that's something I wish athletes
could go back and go. Man, with all this Twitter
stuff and everything else on social media, we thought it
was gonna be a great thing. I wish we could
go back and there be no Twitter. I guarantee you
every athlete would say I wish there could be no
Twitter because it would really help me my and my
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my frame of mind going into games knowing that I'm
a target of fans wrath and what people want to
say about me. Because that that's the one thing that
athletes can't get away from now. And Russell West was
a big example of it. Well, especially when you invite
it by trying to push it off, because what's gonna happen?
It's that one percent, Right. We talked about it all
the time. You know, we could read mean tweets, some
(20:09):
of which are not FCC compliant, some are from the
same three accounts that try to get deep, and it's like, no,
you obviously didn't listen to anything we actually just said,
because really it was quite the opposite of what you're
trying to assert when it comes to you know, sports
outside of the box score world. Uh, you know, we
get deeper into into the weeds with some of this
(20:31):
stuff where many are afraid to go. And what does
that do? That means the one percent are gonna yell
at you. Yes, I'm gonna use the one percent in
a different term here, uh, and not from a pejorative,
just from us straight. That's what you get, right. Collins
talked about it, Dougs talked about it, Rob Chris ben
and then everybody gets you know, folks that want to
(20:53):
see if you'll respond Jonas and and LaVar I saw
quite a bit when he and I worked together on Sundays.
Folks would get mad at him, and it's like, Okay,
you're listening kind of and you're you're getting an emotion
and a reaction, and that's the hope is right. Love us,
hate us, don't be indifferent, but also be realistic about
what you're saying. But guarantee you know, if you had
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say a thousand people, you might have one might do
anything other than shake your hand, asked for a picture
for some of those guys and autograph whatever, or tell
you how much they love your show. You'd have one
person that might pipe out trying to get a reaction.
Right now, Russell Westbrook with his impassioned response, you've seen
(21:37):
a couple of them, right You saw with this in
the street, But you also saw the pregame shoot around
the other night, or a action and reaction they can
catch on tape, got your video in a whole other way.
Whereas most athletes, I think, still recognize there's a lot
of good and brand building that can be done. Unfortunately, uh,
you can't guard against the lunatic fringe. Twitter heard how
(22:00):
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advice for all that would be would be the athletes
to say, if you can't handle all this stuff, just
do your thing, man, don't worry about all the other crap.
(22:22):
Just do your thing. And Russell Westbrook's that guy. He
needs to do his thing. Um. But from we'll have
more basketball coming up, we'll have Steve to say, or
with an update coming up in a few minutes, what's
going on in the n c A tournament, the night
in the NBA. But with the trade today, the shocking trade,
and everybody's got a time to get used to it now.
If DeShawn Watson suddenly becoming a member of the Cleveland Browns,
(22:42):
we thought it was going to be between Atlanta and
New Orleans. And then a big left turn was made
when Adam Schefter tweets out Deshaun Watsons had a change
of heart, wants to go to the Browns, and within
ten minutes reports were out of a contract and a trade.
So the Browns get DeShawn Watson two and thirty million
dollars and guaranteed money he is getting. They trade three
(23:04):
first round picks, a third round pick, and a fourth
round pick in exchange for Watson. Now, normally it was
we talked about the a f C West as it's
loading up. Um, the Bengals went to the Super Bowl.
They're still gonna be really good, right, the Ravens of
the Ravens lamar Jackson if they can figure out, Hey,
the Ravens are still good. The Steelers are always gonna
be there. They're never gonna stink because that's just not
(23:26):
in their DNA. Uh. The brown should win the a
f C North pretty easy as long as Watson is
able to play the majority of the game. If he
could play ten or more games, they should win. Because
this Browns team is loaded with talent. They have everything
they need. It's why I said the Browns, Yeah, I
see this decision for Deshaun Watson, because well, New Orleans
(23:47):
is starting over with Dennis Allen. Are they gonna be
any good? You don't know? Atlanta? Is Arthur Smith a
good head coach. You don't know Matt Rule could be
gone from Carolina all the finalists for him. Uh yeah.
Kevin Stefants is a good head coach. The Browns have
a really good roster they have built they they have
built a really good team. That's why I picked him
for the a f C Championship last year. And what
did they get? They had bad quarterback play and you
(24:09):
were not able to win games where they had to
rely on Baker may feel to do it. And they
had built a solid running game, a good offensive line,
weapons at tight end, a good defense. They had everything.
This is a really talented roster. They just couldn't get
out of their own way at quarterback. And clearly the
drama with is Baker the guy? Is he not? Is
something that seeped into the team because Baker can't let
(24:31):
that go and he always had. He couldn't find a
way to be mentally tough enough to shut it out
and be able to go play. Speaking of guys who
need to stay away from social or to just sit
down order to do if you're you're hurt, and that's
part of Stefanski too, But obviously at Baker sayings good
to go, they're gonna put him out there. But anybody
that had the eye test, like I look, commend him
(24:52):
for trying to play through injury. But all it did
was show that you weren't right. And now that's part
the resume as they moved forward and they exercised your
fifth year option. But since you didn't get your bag,
clearly they had decided they either needed to see more
or they were done, one or the other. But you know,
playing hurt did him no service. Yeah, a little bit
(25:15):
of Yeah, you're tough, but you think about the opportunities
frittered away when he was healthy. You're not gonna be
any better when you're hurt. Doesn't have to worry about
my left arm. Oh no, you're gonna steak. You're looking right.
But for the first couple of weeks of a season,
normally we say, well, since you didn't play in the preseason,
teams kind of get a pass, right because look what
(25:35):
happened with Indianapolis, right, they started terribly and then it
got right, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh,
you included uh, you know, you were mad that you
got you backed off him, and then you you got
mad that you did back off them. Right, and I
was like, oh, here they come. This was the team
I envisioned. And then they what they do? They Carson? Yeah,
(25:58):
the Carson went down down stretch. But it's that kind
of thing, right, It's an ebb and flow, and certainly
the first couple of weeks of a season don't define
it necessarily. But as soon as the wacky Doctor's game
operations started to hand happen where every week it was
a new piece of his body that was hurt. Like
at some point is case keenum at case keenum dumb uh?
(26:20):
Not as good as a hurt Baker, Mayfield and Stefanski
never pulled the trigger. Why I'll never know, but you know,
but the the that's my whole thing with with where
they're at now is that they needed to make that
move and now they've done it. Right now, now they
got their quarterbin. Deshaun Watson's top fortune favors the bold.
It's just it's just is he going to be eligible
(26:43):
to play? Because you know there's likely an NFL suspension coming, right,
and let's say if it is something like it's half
the season and then it gets appealed down to six games. Okay, Yeah,
if there's not a suspension, all hell breaks loose. Yeah,
if there's more than half the sea and that changes things.
But if he's playing ten or eleven games at least,
(27:04):
then yeah, I feel pretty confident. The Browns are strong
enough to win that division. And they're they're they're they're
just more to They're talented up and down, and now
they'll have a quarterback they know it's going to be
able to make the plays on the field. This is it.
I mean, the brown should win this division. They should
be the a f C North champions. Cooper and Joeku
People's jones hang a star on him, fantasy owners. Uh,
(27:26):
you may have to reach around earlier uh to get him, uh,
depending on Watson's availability, of course. But and then you
get Kareem Hunt back alongside Nick Chub. I mean, there's
fantastic work on that offensivehead. I'm still quoth the raven
as much as I love by Mitchell Trobinsky arrival in Pittsburgh.
Don't get me wrong. I'll take Lamar and A and
(27:48):
a retooled and healthy UH Ravens squad out of the gate.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called
All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all the time,
but it's more about the stories about what made these
(28:10):
people love their sport and all the interesting interactions along
the way. We talked to coaches, we talked to players,
We tell you stories. You download it, you listen to it.
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(28:34):
Night for John Clayton, Everybody, Fox Sports Radio, The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, All the
Action in the books, Day two of the first round.
No better way to celebrate it right now than with
our favorite game, maybe the greatest radio game that exists.
True TV or not TV. I give you the television show.
(28:56):
Your job is to tell me whether it is a
real TV show or if it's something I made up
that airs on True TV. Because look, we're at the
end of the run now. This is the week that
people watch True TV because of the n c A games,
and you won't watch it again the rest of the year.
So let's get everybody just a little bit in comfortable
with what true tis. We're here show titles well that
(29:18):
that that may or may not be shows like if
you say, brush up your Shakespeare brought to you by
cold Gate, for example, that is not by by that
might have been a radio play in the forties, exactly
cold Porter. We mentioned Colgate. We're referring, of course, on
this show to the Patriot League Champions, not your product
in the store. So here we go. I give you
(29:40):
the show. You tell me if it's a show that's
on True TV or if it's made up entirely by
me playing as myself. Mike Harmon, Steve Sager, Alex tishert
are ready. I'm ready. Those who can't A comedy series
about teachers who cause constant trouble at their school? Is
that a True TV show or not? You we're watching
(30:00):
that movie with Kevin Hart and it inspired you. Those
who can A comedy series about teachers who cause constant
trouble at their school. I should know more about that.
I'll say yes. Okay, I'm gonna say no, Jay, I
think you made this one up, all right, Okay, Harmon,
I said no, you said no, those who can't is
(30:21):
a true TV really is? Yes, potentially problematic, exposing the
failures of the school district. Murder Which Way similar to
the y A Which Way books, This dramatic show allows
viewers to make plot choices and commercial breaks, with the
(30:42):
most popular version being aired in the next segment. Murder
Which Way Similar to y A Which Way books, This
dramatic show allows viewers to make plot choices in commercial breaks,
with the most popular version being aired in the next segment.
For instance, Hey, do you think Betty is the killer
or should be the killer? And whoever votes? If more
people vote John, the next segment is one that shows
(31:04):
you John being the in your maybe but yeah TV,
I'll say no, Okay, you know what, I love it. No, man,
I feel like that would be such a good way
to get people interactive with the show. I'm gonna say yeah.
I'm gonna say yeah. Hopefully it is. You said interactive, right,
I was wondering because should I say something else? I
(31:26):
don't know. It sounded like you were talking about people
in Iraq, and I was like, Murder Which Way is
not a TV show, It is made up by me.
But boy, that would be a good show, especially if
it was narrated by the Iron Chet based on the
Way Tight Shirt. Temporary Insanity scripted show where comedians pos
(31:50):
as temp employees and sabotage the day to day operations
of their workplace. Temporary Insanity a scripted show where comedians
poses temper yees and sabotage the day to day operations
of their workplace. No, but again, it should be it
should be right, Yeah, that's easy. The comedy Store to
go straight down the street and raise hell seems like premise. Yeah, man, Jason,
(32:15):
this one is actually tough, dude. That's tough, man, that's tough.
That's your best one so far these days, I'm gonna
say as well. No, but it should be that is
not a true TV show. That that's fantastic. We should
go down to Sunset Strip tonight and uh go talk
to some folks about green lighting this. Are we going
(32:36):
to hear about that cooking show? Sweet Dreams Are Made
of Cheese? Do you like that one? Right? That's any
Lenox right on for with her agent right now, going
get me on this show. Blood Lake. Blood Lake a
reality show where people sign up to endure a slash
or menacing their sleepaway camp, the last person standing is
the winner, and after every pretend to kill, the person
(32:59):
is drowned in a bucket of blood to show they've
been eliminated. I thought the loser goes on the fire.
That's fantastic, but I think that's actually the title of
a Slayer song Blood Lake reality show where people sign
up a slasher menacing their sleepaway camp. The last person
standing is the winner. After every pretend to kill, the
person is based is drownding a bucket of blood to
(33:21):
show they've been eliminated. It sounds like one of your
dark fantasies. Jay, Okay, that's that's that's a Friday Night
left hern Hey right, that's a no okay No. Blood
Lake unfortunately is not last one you guys. Ready, let's
(33:43):
go Rats with Sides with Wings Musicians compete to play
on stage on tour with eighties and nineties bands Rat
and Winger. Make this happen? Rats with Wings is the hell.
We'll do it on a cruise line too. Musicians competing
to play on stage on tour with eighties and nineties
bands Rat and Winger. Why not No, but I love
(34:06):
burned Down? Yes, Steve, you better not be right. It's no.
That is not a true. So great though, headed for
a break down the tournament, one of the mare most
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