March 22, 2022 • 44 mins
Jason and Mike are not impressed with the Colts acquiring Matt Ryan from the Falcons. CBS Football Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show to break down the QB moves across the NFL. Plus, LeBron will only play well if the Lakers remain in the play-in hunt, and Jason loves the Saints keeping Jameis Winston.
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Hello and welcome inside. Happy Monday. That Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon, Hobo Hobo where we
kind of have to make it Urban Meyer Night. I
mean don't don't we We kind of have to. I
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have to put a list of people I've never heard of,
no public lexicon that was like, my kid given me
all sorts of here's this guy, he's a famous YouTuber
or TikToker. I hear the crickets. You could see the
crickets over my head. Yeah, Who's Who's I don't know
who's Moran sings, Oh, Miranda's. But here's the thing. If
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we want to make it Urban Meyer Night, it's very
involved because we need to explain every time we mentioned
somebody's name in that Okay, people might not know who
it is. So if we say it's urban Meyer Night,
we have to explain. Urban Meyer was the head coach
at Ohio State, head coach of the Jaguars who was
fired because he was terrible. What are the Jaguars? They're
an organization the National Football League? What's the National Football
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League's a place that employees players where they play the
game of football. Okay, what's Ohio State? Ohio State is
a four year institution where people gather knowledge and and
move on and want to graduate and move on to
the workforce. What's the workforce? I mean, we have to
explain everything because urban Meyer doesn't know anything. We have
to go under that assumption that people don't know things.
So we have to do Do you know that urban
Meyer is now working for the foundation aimed at helping
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student athletes land name, image and likeness deals. I thought
you're gonna say he's working for the foundation, the Heart Foundation.
I really thought that's if I could beat Jim the
Anvil nine heard for one day. Now you explain, you
got explained to Jim the Envil Night artist bot A
time part of the Heart Foundation, alongside Brett the Hitman Heart,
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former world champion, was also screwed in the famous Montreal
screw Job. They were managed by the legendary Jimmy Hart,
who you could find all the time down in Florida
with Hulk Cogan, Hulk Cogan, Thunderlips and Rocky three and
a legend in the ring. One of the founding members
of the n w the n w O Scott Hall
and Kevin Nesh Who were they? Scott Hall, wh also
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Raiser Ramon, famous w w F iconic villain, and Kevin
Nash actually showed up in some television and movie projects. Now,
what is Florida? You mentioned Florida. People have to know.
It's this dangly state down south. It's hanging on the
rim and getting a technical like Illinois. Yeah, uh so
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it is urban myke and we'll get to Urban Meyer who. Yes,
of course, story came out today that he did not
who many of the star know who. Many of the
star players in the NFL were, particularly Deebo, Samuel Aaron
Donald and Jamal Adams. Now I do take a little
bit of umbridge because it's supposed to be star players
Jamal Adams is not in that group al right and
talking about he was the guy remember when we talked
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to Softie Miller of a big show there at kJ R.
Uh mine not minute. But Jamal Adams is going to
be key to the resurgence Aaron Donald Star yes, uh Deebo,
Samuel Star, Yes, Jamal Adams. I can forgive for not
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knowing who Jamal Adams is because he's not a star.
He was for a couple of years and maybe he
will be again. I don't know, I'm gonna I got
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common sense. So we'll have more on that story. And
it's just a great fun story that of course urban mire,
but that part of it's fun. The rest of it
paints him as the colossal jackass that we all surmised
he must have been well knew just checking a bunch
of boxes of see it's confirmation of a lot of
things we already had. The only new stuff was he
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didn't know who some of these players were. In the
direct quote was, hey, who's this ninety nine on the rams?
Uh here, We're gonna have trouble with him? And also
didn't know Jamal At Who's didn't know Deebo Samuel. The
other stuff we all knew, mistreated his coaching staff yep,
blame coaches for his own shortcomings. Yep. All these things
we knew. All these things we know. You know what
we needed is for Urban Meyer to go, I don't
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know who this number ninety nine is? Can you tell me?
And then like the window of his office opens and
it's Sean McVeigh with a micro a phone yelling run
it back, run it back. That's what I need. You
neglected to tell people who Sean McVeigh was. That's right.
Sean McVeigh, youngest coach in the National Football League, won
the Super Bowl with the Ramps. Uh. Super Bowl is
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the big sporting event of the year which is watched
by over hundreds of millions of people who are people,
living being, living, breathing beings like you and I. Who
am I? I'm Jason Smith? Who is he? He is
Mike Carman and you are you. So there we go.
There's the explanation. I am the Walrus. Google nicely done.
But we did have another big day on the quarterback carousel,
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and it was led off with Matt Ryan saying goodbye
to his career in Atlanta after fourteen years. He was
traded to the Indianapolis Colts in exchange for a third
round pick this season. Now, other dominoes happened as well.
The Falcons then moved quickly. They signed Marcus Mariota to
a two year deal. Jamis Winston resigned with the New
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Orleans Saints. It Matt Ryan going to the Colts. I
see this move, and honestly, I'm down on it. I'm
just man, I'm just Matt on it. The Colts needed
to go bold. They already went down the road of
here's a veteran who has seen his best days, but
let's hopeful, be hopeful that he can maybe recapture his glory. Here,
I get trying with Carson Wentz. He was younger, he
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was with Frank Wright, the guy that turned him into
a star. I get it. Matt Ryan's a jag. He's
a jag now every single measurable. For Matt Ryan, every
single one is on a four year downward trend since
two thousand eighteen, every single one, no matter what you
want to look at for Matt Ryan, he is not
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nearly the guy he was four years ago. His completions
are down, completion percentages down, yards are down, average yards
are down, touchdowns are down. Interceptions are about the same,
which is not good. His quarterback rating is down. Everything
is down. He has been just a guy. He's he's
looking at his stats. It's like a tiny bit better
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Baker Mayfield, but not much. And and for the Atlanta Falcons,
they've had playmakers, they've had weapons, you know, the for
the most of the last four years, like last year
was very difficult, but they've had guys on offense. Right,
they lucked into Cordarrel Patterson. Oh my god, look at it.
Suddenly the guys really good. Uh, they've had players. No,
so that gave them one last year. Yeah, so they
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didn't last they gave him. That gave him one last year.
And then Kyle Pitch with the quietest thousand yards seasons
that you'll ever tracted by many fantasy owners. Very Kyle Pits,
very quiet thousand yards season. But he's he's not the
same guy. He's the grizzled veteran who can make short throws.
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That's kind of who Matt Ryan is. Like when when
I watched him beat the Jets in England UM in
Week four, and it was embarrassing because he was doing
just the bare minimum. Here's what I need to do.
I'm just gonna throw short before the rush can get
to me because there's nothing that Jets can do to
stop this, because they're the Jets. And had the Jets
been able to do anything more than just send their
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send their rushes at the quarterback and and hope you
can defend one on one, they were gonna lose that game.
And all Matt Ryan did was throw the football fast
and get out of and get out of it fast.
And that beat the Jets. You know what, games like
that and and and and the guy that can throw short. Yeah,
you can beat the bad teams in the NFL. But
the Colts this was supposed to be a big, bold move,
right or say said, hey, we're making big moves now
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way now, we're gonna go big a quarterback of it.
And you struck out and you whipped so what you do.
You settled from Matt Ryan. You settled for him. And
so what kind of team are they gonna be this year?
They're gonna be the same team they were last year.
They're gonna they're they're they're talent or across the board
is gonna help them to beat the average to below
average teams. But the elite teams they're gonna struggle against
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because Matt Ryan is just a guy and it's not
like he's surrounded by a ton of weapons to throw too.
That's the one thing. Hey, when you come to Indianapolis,
you've got everything around you, but you gotta be a
quarterback that makes everybody better. And because with Pittman being
your best receiver, yeah, he's just okay. You have a
great offensive line, you have the best running back in
the NFL, you have a really good defense. You get
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a lot there. But you need a quarterback that can
make everybody better, not a guy who will be okay
if he has a lot of weapons. Because the Colts
don't have a lot of weapons. I don't get this
as being the fit for the call, but Colts needed
to go bold. I would have called Arizona for Kyler Murray,
I'd just said, hey, like, hey, do you really you
really upset with this guy? Do you really not like him?
Let's see if he works here playing on turf with us.
I'd have gone after and said, you know what, I
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know he threw thirty picks last year, but he was
really good this year. Let's go get Jamis Winston. See
if he can throw the ball around the yard a
little bit. Because you needed more, clearly, because all you
were doing was backing into the playoffs. If you with
Carson Wentz, how far are you really gonna go? How
far are you gonna go? In this a f C
that's loaded up with all kinds of quarterbacks. This move
is just man. I mean, I like Matt Ryan. He
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was a good quarterback for a long time. You know,
peaked winning the m v P a few years ago.
But he is just a guy. Now. Yeah, I'm not
too old to remember folks in the middle of the season,
even late in the regular season, thinking if these guys
get in, they can win the Super Bowl. So you
can cancel that noise right now. Okay, if they limped in,
how good were they gonna be? Okay, because I seem
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to remember someone started jumping on the bandwagon. I had
to keep grabbing you by the scruff of the neck
to keep you off it. For the car, I gotta
jump on it now, say, okay, I'm antie. I'm not
gonna give any leave no stone unturned. Now. I I'm
not a fan of this deal. It's just met I
I look at it from from Uh, I guess a
little different perspective of they weren't gonna get Kyler Murray
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wasn't on the market. And I don't believe that for
a second. What do you want? You want three first
round picks for him? We gotta go bold. We got
a super Bowl winning team right here. We gotta go bold.
Let's go get a quarterback that can make plays. No,
but then you see you're talking out aboutside your mouth.
You're saying they're not very good, and they're like, oh,
we got a super Bowl winning Yeah, if you get
a quarterback, you gotta get a quarterback. Man, you gotta
get a quarterback that can make plays. Blatt Ryan can't
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make plays. That's a you know, if you have a
quarterback that could potentially make players better, right, if they
potentially make players better, Uh, that's the guy you go
sign instead of well, let's put Matt Ryan out there
and see what we can do. I mean, you know,
look Reggie Way and walking through that door. He is no, no, no,
you know what he is actually, because he's now their
wide receiver coach. Shows how much you're paying at He's
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not knocking onto the field maybe to play. No, I'm
here to coach. That's disappointing. Stats. I was so excited
I thought he was playing again. Oh no, he's just
a wide receiver's coach. Alright, that's fine, just looking at
it from what what's available. Right. Obviously, yes, you you
could go and and try to throw a ton of assets,
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but is that helping you long term? And and is
Arizona gonna say? You know what, let's we join these
two at the hip. Let's break this apart and roll
the dice on some other guy, like who who is
Arizona backfilling with? Because Baker Mayfield's and Jack Baker. You
said Baker Mayfields the same guy as Matt Ryan. Well
I'll give you one better. Matt Ryan's better than him
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because nobody in the locker room hates him. That's why
he's a little bit better because nobody hates it. That's
why he's a little bit better. You didn't. Never mind,
I gotta lead. I gotta leave some points for you
to make, man, I mean night, you gotta make some
explanations as urban Meyer Knight. I appreciate that, no question
about it. But you know, I look at it for
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a third round pick. Is the world beating No? Can
you go and find another wide receiver or two? I
guess there's still guys available, all right, still guys that
can come alongside Pittman and the red zone monster that
is mo Ali Cox. I just had to say his name,
and then you're figuring out, you know, offensive line, Eric Fisher,
what's what's the deal there? Uh? And obviously Taylor and
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Hines in the backfield you're feeling pretty good about defensively solid.
I mean, you gotta go beat the Jaguars. I think
that was one of the best jokes of the day,
the number of times I saw the quote huh fictitiously
attributed to Frank Right, we know he could beat the Jaguars.
That's to why they went and got Matt Ryan, which
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I think was pretty funny. But in the end for
what they gave up, Yeah, you you take your shot.
Two years left on his deal not prohibitively expensive. So
you go and look at around the the wide receiver
offerings out there, not to mention the draft, and and
see if you can't you know, augment things here in
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free agency, and that he and Frank Reich and Frank
Reich was supposed to magically fix Carson Wentz. And we're
just gonna cite t D to interception ratio. Remember a
lot of that is the throws they won't make, allows
for the touchdown to interception ratio to be so high,
which allows me to give side eye to Aaron Rodgers
while I'm at and see what I did there. So
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it's it's that ability for Matt Ryan doing. Am I
the hugest fan of his? No? Do I think he's,
you know, one of those top five seven guys. No,
But in an offense that they want to push forward,
then they have a running game that you can try. Look,
Cordelle Patterson was fantastic as a runner and receiver. That
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was a nice gift that didn't make up for the
lack of opportunists on the outside. Russell Gage had his moments,
and he'll be a nice number three or four eight
or whatever he's doing in Tampa. But this deal for
the Colts. You know, when the world is running down,
you make the best of what's still around the police
and that's what you got. Matt Ryan, Thanks for listening
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Ryan is a cult, Marcus Mariota is a Falcon. Jamis
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Winson is a Saint. Joining us now on the hot
line to break it all down, CBS Sports NFL Insider
on Twitter at Jason Locking for the afore mentioned Jason
Locking for What's Happening, Jay Big day today another one. Yeah,
big days every day in the NFL. Um the quarterback
carousel rolls on and on and on. I mean, eventually
have to find a way for this to keep going, right,
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I mean, I know there's only a couple of guys left.
Don't we just start over again after this? Yeah? That,
I just think we do the whole thing again with
like backups and stuff. Maybe we just like do a
redraft and we take quarterbacks like thirty three through sixty
six and throw them in a hopper and have rich
eyes and pull the names out of a hat and
then they get assigned to a random team or something
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like that. Ah wait a minutet me write that down.
That could have a game show, you know, seven programming.
There's content right there. All right, So the first things first,
we talked about the Matt Ryant trade a few minutes ago.
I'm kind of mad on it. What were you on this?
I'd say, man, is about it from me as well?
I don't know that they're treading in significantly deeper waters
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or more fruitful waters than what they were trolling in
with Philip Rivers two years ago. You know, is this
really that different? I mean, is this really any different.
I'm not sure. Even when you look at the contract now,
it feels very sort of Philip Rivers a million dollars
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esque from a couple of years ago. Um. I think
he'll make better decisions and some of the gun slinger
that never really got out of Philip. But we look
at sort of modern football, right and what you want
out of a quarterback from an athleticism and mobility standpoint, Um,
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the the ability to move the target point around and
for teams not to kind of know where the ball
is being launched from all the time that you don't
have any of that. UM. Very productive quarterback for a
long time, very smart. He'll be a different kind of leader,
certainly than Carson Wentz. And I think there's a lot
of intangible areas that he can improve it. But he's
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a he's a mean, he's a band aid. It's another
stop gap. Maybe at last a year, maybe at last two,
Maybe you win a playoff game or two in that
period of time. But I just have a hard time
looking at that of quarterbacks in the a f C
and saying, no, Matt Ryan in his age, whatever season
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in the thirty seven season, is going to be able
to get that team over the hump in that conference.
I just don't see it. Yeah, I guess at this
point it's the the last resort, right I used the
police of make the best of what's still around, because
I mean, what else could you have swung for when
the rest of the world may very well be runned down? Also,
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so that could be the apropos. I would say any
apocalyptic tune might be apropos more to the world at
large than perhaps the NFL, where business is booming. Yeah.
I mean, look, these guys have not been dealing with
the quarterback position from the position to strength since Andrew
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Luck decided on some August night five six years ago
that enough was enough. Um. You know, everything they've done
since then has sort of been reactionary, and I feel
like a little bit piecemeal. And there have been, you know,
some teams that have made very bold moves, whether through
what they gave up in draft pick compensation to move
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up um in a particular draft, or two acquire a
veteran quarterback who is someone who's who's still had a
larger window to potentially bring you home the chalice than
what the Colts have been doing, as they've sort of
meandered between you know, the Jacoby Brissetts and you know
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the Philip Rivers and the Carson wentz Is, and it's
um in the NFC, you know what I mean, Like
if you put the Indianapolis Colts in the NFC North,
I'd be like, you know, I mean, look, did you
probably get a wild card and then anything that happened.
But it is a the paradigm shift that there is.
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It's it's almost like the a f C is the
major leagues. In the NFC is a well, I mean,
they should have been relegated after losing to the Jaguars.
So Carson Wentz was yeah, he was, hey, so before
you get to the other quarterbacks. UM, I don't know.
I feel bad, j because we should have started out
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by making sure that in honor of Urban Meyer, everybody
listening knows the people that we're talking about, knows the
star players. After that athletic report today that he didn't
know who some of the star players in the n
FEL were like Aaron Donald and Jamal Adams, and it's
look that that thing. I mean again, I I reported
going in the week one of the last season that
that was a one and duct that everybody around there
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just knew this guy this has no shot, this has
no chance. He doesn't really care, He's disinterested. He didn't
even really care about the staff he put together. He
doesn't care about the players. He really cares about if
he hit those those balls after practice straight or not,
though he cares about what time he leaves the facility. Um,
it just it had I mean I never ever heard
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people talking during O t a s and you know,
before the start of training camp and such like. He
couldn't put a schedule together. He didn't understand the concept
of O t a S. He didn't understand why he
couldn't have a practice on you know, the fourth of July. Like,
I mean, it was like talking to a toddler, you know,
it really was like it was a combination of malignant
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arcissism and just a lack of any sort of inquisitive
nature whatsoever. Yeah, I mean, it's an all time great
flame out. And um I wish you know that my
employers did not have rules against me gambling, because if
I could have got myself to anywhere to bet on
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urban Meyer as a one and done, I would have
put everything I have on it. By the start of
last season, it had no chance and we watched. I
didn't think the Columbus stuff would happen, though, even that
raised the bar from me, like the not flying home
with the team that I gotta say, even I didn't
see that one coming. The Bingo cards continues Jason Locking
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for CBS Sports seven the Fan in Baltimore with us
at Jason Locking for on Twitter is where you find
in the Jason Smithshow with My arm and here on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, so the dance cards are
filling up, Jimmy G's recovering from shoulder surgery, and Sad
Baker mayfields out there. He wanted the Colts, Colts didn't
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want him. Where's he end up? She's I just don't
know that Carolina, Like, do they really want to mediocre
quarterbacks on their fifth year option? Mediocre to you know? Look,
and I think Baker is better than the same Donald,
But I just don't think that they can go that route.
They've already already paying somebody nineteen million dollars who they
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know isn't their future quarterback Um the Texans or they
know they're gonna ride this Davis Mills thing out, And
maybe they just asked somebody, maybe they don't. I think
San Francisco could be interesting for him. But from a
timing standpoint, they're not gonna want to carry Baker Mayfield
and Jimmy g together for any prolonged period of time,
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you know, cap cash all that. Um it just doesn't
make sense. But they need somebody in that role that
Trey Lance isn't ready, and I don't know how anybody
could guarantee that Tray Lance is going to be ready. UM.
I think the boots and the waggles and some of
the things Baker can do when you do move him
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off the spot, because that with his limited size, that
does help. Um. I mean, he he has you know
what a playoff came to the NFL, So I could
see him in Shanahan system being a little bit interesting.
But they've got to obviously move Garoppolo. And I don't
know that the Garoppolo trade two weeks from you know,
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removed from sold shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder. I
don't know the time frame right now is is great
for them to move him, you know? And I mean
Seattle for Baker Mayfield could be interesting as well. You know,
he was drafted by John Dorsey First. Overall, John Dorsey
is very close with John Schneider, the GM of the Seahawks.
Those guys came up together with the Packers. They do
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have some I think they share some sort of over
arching scouting philosophies. You know, at times they tend to
like the same sort of players. Could that be a
play for for Seattle, um? But I think San Francisco
think could be interesting. You know, he's he had a
rough season last year, but he hasn't had the injury
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history that Garoppolo has year over year. Maybe they see
a little more upside there and he's cheaper um. But
then it's like, okay, well, unless they're trading Garoppolo to
their rival, you do start running out of options, you know,
Carolina UM for for Garoppolo, I mean maybe you know
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somebody's somebody's got to do the job. But yeah, it's
this is this is a new one for me, man
um This this this quarterback roulette? Is that a whole
another level? How much did the Garoppolo injury affect everything
going only because I kind of feel like had he been,
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had he been healthy, that trade would have been done,
would have been the first one done, and everything would
have gone after that. Yeah, I mean I think I think,
you know, I think Washington would have been more apt
to do something like that. I know the Steelers liked him,
you know, but if if we really want to try
to run back Canada's offense and our starting quarterbacks, you know,
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not gonna start his throwing program for July, you know,
first week of July and O t A s are over?
Can we you know what I mean? Is that is
that tenable? Like are we really going to give up,
you know, at three and a two or whatever and
then hope this guy is ready for the start of camp.
I know there were people reporting that the combine like
it's no big deal, it's not gonna affect, like it's
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not going to offend, talking about like he can't throw
until July NFL activities are over. The only time there's
nothing going over the NFL is like July July. How
did you know what you mean? How are you going
to know what you have? So and it could be
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one too where the forts are content to just let
it play out, because unfortunately, the sad reality is through
those O t A periods, somebody's gonna slip and have
a freak injury. Right, somebody's gonna have an Achille, somebody's
gonna have an a c L. Some team that today
feels like they have more quarterbacks than they need come
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May or June might be feeling like, oh, believe we
don't have we don't have a starting quarterback. So it
may work to their favorite, but absolutely in the end maybe,
but yeah, he would have been in that first wave,
and there's certainly people who would have preferred him, if healthy,
to what they got. But again, it's very tough to
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make that trade when the guys having surgery on his
throwing shoulder. As the league years opening up, He's on
Twitter at Jason lock and four That is at Jason
lock and for a CBS Sports NFL insider, Jay is
always buddy, Thanks to your time, and if any more
quarterbacks go anywhere, we'll call you right back. Hey, I'm
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everybody's back on the Lakers. Oh, they beat Cleveland tonight.
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Who knew? Hey the beginning of the season. Hey, the
Lakers beating Cleveland in March is gonna be a huge
win for them. You'd say, what are you crazy? Cleveland's
gonna win twelve games? What are you talking about? The
Lakers got Russell Westbrook. They're gonna be killing everybody. They're
gonna have sixty five wins. No, the Lakers beating Cleveland
and Cleveland in the Return of the King DJ Return
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of the King uh qualifies for a huge win for
the Lakers. Look at it was Cleveland team. Yeah, I
mean they got a better record than the Lakers by
ten games. Exactly. A big night from Lebron thirty eight
twelve assists, eleven rebounds, of course, passing karmelone over the weekend.
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Now all alone in second place, will pass Kareem Abdul
Jabbar sometime next season. Uh for likely at some point
unless he gets hurt. You never know, he could be out,
but likely next season, he becomes the all time leading
score in NBA history. And he has done something that
I didn't know that he would do. Because I've told
you from the beginning, Lebron is gonna play as long
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as the Lakers are firmly in the playing round, right.
There's no hiding from the fact that we're in the
playing round. Right, So now it's gonna be all right.
I can't get out, I can't find my way sitting down,
I can't back away from the team unless now that
I've passed car alone, this I really wanted to do
this year. Unless we look like we're falling out of
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the playing round and the Lakers aren't. Right, they won tonight,
that's great. Uh, there's ten games left and they have
a three and a half game lead on the Spurs,
who are in eleventh place. Right now, now before you think, well,
but if the Lakers just go like three and seven,
If the Lakers go three and seven, they're gonna have
it clinched. The Spurs aren't gonna go too Not all
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of these teams are terrible, right. That's the thing is
people forget all these teams are. You can look and
say in the Eastern Conference and say, well, Milwaukee could
go on a run and maybe pass Philadelphia and Miami
for first place. Yeah, because they're only two or two
and a half games back. Uh, and they're a good team.
When you're a good team, you can say, hey, we
can win eight of out of our last ten. But
you're looking at the Spurs and the Blazers who were
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sixteen and seventeen games below five hundred. They're not going
eight and two and run a blistering pace to end
the season at still go five and five. So if
they go five and five and the Lakers win three, yeah,
the Lakers are in the playing round and Lebron will
still keep playing because that's what's gonna happen. It's really
hard to fall out right now at this point because
even look look at look at Portland's Portland has been
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awful there two and eight the last ten games. But
because everybody's bad, even they haven't fallen so far off
everybody and where they were three weeks ago, this, and
they sent up the flare today that Damian Lillard ain't
coming back and it don't matter because the King's Thundering
Rockets are that bad man. So yeah, the Spurs, they
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have got that win over Golden State the other day
and everybody had to do a double take, going, hey,
wait a minute, this could screw everything up for the
final ten games of the season. Pelicans, you know, Zion
not expected back when that didn't change from two months ago.
You were just hoping you'd see some workout videos at
some point beyond that, you move on. Yeah, the Lakers
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big win, Darius Garland had his you know, monster game
in front of folks, and and Kevin Love got posterized
after giving Lebron the sleeper hold and a and a
neck lock like he was gonna get, you know, do
the bulldog maneuver on him. Uh and instead, you know,
he's now going to be part of some top shot
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moment or some bootleg video on the net for the
next you know week or so. But yeah, there's there's
nobody catching them because they're awful. Like I think that's
the worst thing is to look in the mirror go
no matter how hard we try, and and you got
the bonus of all. Look there's Anthony Davis working out,
so all of a sudden with this win, everybody's excited.
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Everybody started getting all juiced up against and and see
this is the one winners of two out of three,
and look they're playing with hard again. Yeah, here they are.
And then they hey, they win there, out of the
playing round, what do they get a first round matchup
against the Suns. Oh, you're going home in four games,
but they don't have Chris Paul in their last ten ridiculous.
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One more game and they clinch first place in in
in the Western Conference with ten games left. One more
win and they clinch first place. Yeah, good luck. You
want to avoid them, uh so? But still, hey, this
means Lebron will still be playing, He will get closer
to cream, and the Lakers will still stay relavant. Because
as much as we make fun of the Lakers, uh is,
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what's gonna be a more fun playing round with Lebron
playing in it? Or if the Spurs somehow get it.
And you're talking about the Timberwolves, the Clippers, the Pelicans
and the Spurs. Who cares about those games? No, it's
better when you have the Lakers in it. It's where
it's star power. As we've seen the last couple of years.
When you have the playing around, you have star power
in it, it's a big deal. How big was the
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playing around last year? Because Steph Curry was in it? Right,
both games they played big, big deals. They're out? What
was it? Those were seismic events. When you have good
teams in it, people are gonna care in the East.
The Nets are gonna be in the playing round as
good as they are. We're we're a championship team. Now
you're in the playing round, you're gonna be two games
from going home. I mean, it's could be a big
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time player you're gonna have as gonna be in the
playing round. Playing round is gonna be fun. Man, It's
gonna be fun. Little LaMelo Ball getting after it sure
are over. Think about if the Clippers all of a
sudden they break glass like it's stone cold Steve Austin,
and all of a sudden there's Paul, George and Leonard
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come into the you know, like it's a tag team
match gone to hell. Oh my god, there they are.
But I mean, that's one of the things you have
to look at and I think the Lakers as an
organization and from Lebron James and on down looking around, going,
how are the Clippers five games better than us? When
they're two guys haven't played Yeah, yeah, their best two
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guys I haven't played in there and they have. They're
they're not sweating anything out right now, like, yeah, we're
good right here they are. They are basically locked into
being the eight seed, to being the eight seed now
and in the playing tournament, they are locked into that
without having their two best players. The worst of it, though,
is the Timberwolves, right, you are half a game from
the sixth seed, alright, so you got them in the Nuggets,
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whichever one falls in. But you're that far ahead of
everybody else in the play and but one bad night
and you go home, and let's get too bad nights obviously,
but but just the just but just the idea that
you know, two games could determine even though you were
ten games ahead of these guys for the entirety of
the season. But you know what, that's what that what
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they were hoping to do, right, It's the second wild
card in baseball. It's adding a seven seed to the NFL.
Beyond the giant pile of money. It's to try to
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Ryan get traded to the Colts. Love more on him
coming up in about twenty five minutes. Marcus Mariota will
likely become his air apparent, will him or Josh Rosen?
Oh boy uh in Atlanta? But the move I like
the most today, and this was a team playing poker,
and they played poker in a way which it was
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more of a calculated gamble. But Jamis Winston goes back
to the Saints two years and twenty eight million dollars.
And I like this move for two reasons. One is
because from a football standpoint, he was really good last year, right,
People forget there. Seven weeks of the season, Jamis Winston
was terrific. Right, the Saints were five and two, they
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were rolling in. It was man. Anybody who plays quarterback
in a Sean Payton system winds up playing well, whether
it's Drew Brees or Teddy Bridgewater, Taysom Hill and outlook
at Jamis Winston. He was terrific and the Saints were
very good. Then Winston got hurt and things kind of
spiraled from there. But Winston was still someone who had
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reinvented himself and become someone that you had thought would
have had a better market. But two years of twenty
eight million, even though twenty one million dollars of it's guaranteed,
that's not real. Hey, I believe in you as a
starter money. This is like, Hey, no other teams really
interested in you. We're not gonna insult you to make
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you like a one year ten million dollar offer, so hey,
we'll give you like fourteen million a year, which is like,
what if you have the best backup in the world.
That's the money you're gonna make. So it shows you
that not a lot of teams. We're in it for Winston,
which was part of the calculated gamble because New Orleans
was in on Deshaun Watson. I'm sure it was, Hey, listen,
we're our guy. If we can't get Deshaun Watson, we're
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gonna go after here. We're coming back to you and Winston.
I'm sure said, all right, I've kind of restarted my
career here. Last year I was injured. They're gonna get me,
and if something happens, well, then I'll find another destination somewhere.
I'm still gonna be the best quarterback left on the market.
Jimmy Garoppolo is hurt. No one's gonna be able to
sign him for a while, know if he's healthy for
a while. So okay, So the the poker was good.
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The risk on him was good because of what he
did last year. But the other part of this that
makes so much sense is that sometimes a quarterback just
fits what your team is doing for this year. Right
the Saints are unsure of year one after Sean Payton.
Did they trust Dennis Allen? He's gonna be a great
head coach? You have no idea is he is he
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gonna Are we just gonna keep it rolling? Or are
we really gonna miss Shawan Payton that much? We're unsure.
Do we load up on free agents for this year
with Dennis Allen? Oh? I don't know. Does he have
a vision that we trust? Oh? I don't know. We're
kind of in a in between, I don't know year.
So the best thing to do is what Let's do
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a wait and see year. Let's see how things look
this year, and then we can get really in depth
on philosophy and strategy and going out and getting free
agents and really seeing who the leaders of this of
this team are going forward. So really, Jamis Winston fits
with that exact vision. He was good here last year.
Let's bring him back again. We don't know what we're
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gonna get. We don't know what kind of team we're
gonna be. We don't our philosophy is gonna be, we
don't know what our identity is going to be. We've
lost in the last three years Drew Brees and Sean Payton.
That's a tough thing, right, They were constants for twenty
years and now we've lost both of them. So, yeah,
there's gonna be a bit of we really don't know
where we're going. We're not suddenly sold on a vision
where one coach and one quarterback leave and another coach
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another quarterback are coming in. It's not like that. Now,
there's a lot of unknown. So because he fits in
with that vision of the unknown, because Winston still kind
of an unknown himself, I love this move for the Saints.
I think I think that this is one of the
best quarterback moves that we've seen the last few days. Well, remember,
you basically have a first round pick coming back in
Michael Thomas who played a little bit and then went away,
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right He Marcus Callaway, got guys that could work down
the seam, obviously Kenny Stills, so guys that can go
get a tray Kwan Smith. Will he ever be we
don't know, but still there Um obviously Camara. But for
Jamis Winstone, Winston, Winstone, Winstone, Ray Winstone, Ray Winstone, I
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don't know why Ray Winstone popped into my head. They
just yeah, I just did. But for Jamis Winston, right
came off. As you mentioned, the the giant pinball numbers
of touchdowns and interceptions to where all right, you know,
he can sling it, but now you need to refine
the skills and went to masters school, as he called
Sean Payton's offense, and then he gets hurt right as
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you're starting to show something. And depending on the organization,
maybe they weren't willing to to go down that road
and didn't want to outbid and overpay fifteen million plots.
Remember New Orleans came into this whole off season really
cash trapped and did a lot of reconfiguring and readjustments
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to try to free themselves up some money. So that
and probably have to do the same with Taysom Hill,
although I'm not sure what the guarantees are for him,
but I would think under Dennis Allen he goes to
you know, being more the back slash tight end slash
gadget guy again than being a quarterback consideration, and although
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it's experimentation that Sean Payton had done goes out the window.
But you have a great defense. Still rumors about potential
editions out there, still trying to figure out because the
honey Badger was was tied there early. I've seen other
teams pop up of late right, most notably the Indianapolis Colts,
who we've been talking about today. But for for Jamis Winston, Yeah,
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it's it's the perfect spot. And you get to go
play catch with Michael Thomas, assuming he sound and ready
to go. Yeah, it's I don't. I don't think there
was anything better for him in a organization that embraced
him and he started to grow and into that role.
And now he bets on himself, right, short term deal?
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Uh And if he puts up numbers, then we'll be
talking about him in the thirties range soon enough. And look,
and I know you don't like him, I know you're
not a fan of his, but bringing Winston back, all right,
what if he doesn't work out? Taysom Hill honestly is
the best backup quarterback in the NFL. That's the He's
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the backup. I don't You don't like him as a starter,
but I don't like him was a backup either. But oh,
come on, you just hate Taysom Hill. Man. I love
Taysom Hill. He's one of the nicest guys we've ever
had on our show. One that wasn't a regular, you know,
friend of the show. He's got a cal Ripken esque
streak of coming on our show. Once a year. I mean,
that's he's done it the last year. I'm not no, no, no,
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it's not the man. It's the aptitude as But what
other what other backup that you? Okay, we this guy
could come in and win games and and be dynamic
and make plays and not just be someone who, hey,
hand the ball off, you know, forty times and then
throw it only when we tell you. I mean, you know,
you need somebody that can make some plays. There's no
better backup quarterback in the NFL. That's a that's a
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very sad state of affairs. Hey, I just talk about reality. Man.
I'm just trying to go through the game. I tell
you what it is. Because everybody liked Honley with the Ravens.
But I had to remind a bunch of folks that
they lost all six of those games. So that doesn't
h Jacoby Burr sets now the backup in Cleveland, uh to.
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Rod Taylor continues his fantastic voyage of his NFL career.
Right because he signed eel when it Where is he
now or is he a free agent at the moment? No,
he went to the Giants. So there you go, trond Taylor.
We'll see what befalls him next, But no, it is,
it is truly. It does make you think though about
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the the backup position and how um how much of
a waste land it is, at least on the surface, right,
Because how many teams do you say, all right, that
guy is serviceable and come in and and Taysom Hill.
I guess he's serviceable, so he'll fit that fit that
bill for you know what about Gino Smith? He won
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games although he may be the starter at this are
you yeah? Yeah, I mean you'll come out. Are you
just mentioning? You know, just because you know he gets
under my skin, just like Tastom Hill get under your skin.
I feel like you're only bringing up something because you
knew that would get a rise out of me. When
I knew, I did not taste what I knew it would, actually,
but I still do. Taysom Hill is the best backup
in the NFL. Well, I mean Nick Foles, he's got
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a Super Bowl rain. Oh Nick, you can't can't put
anything like that. Yeah, look what I did? I just
did you show wrong right there? How about Taylor Heidechi
you kid, you kids, I'll take Taylor, I'll you know what,
I'll take Taylor Heidechi there kid. It took a lot
of scanning, but I found one twittering out about a
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kind of have to make it Urban Meyer Night. I
mean don't don't we We kind of have to. I
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have to put a list of people I've never heard of,
no public lexicon that was like, my kid given me
all sorts of here's this guy, he's a famous YouTuber
or TikToker. I hear the crickets. You could see the
crickets over my head. Yeah, Who's Who's I don't know
who's Moran sings, Oh, Miranda's. But here's the thing. If
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we want to make it Urban Meyer Night, it's very
involved because we need to explain every time we mentioned
somebody's name in that Okay, people might not know who
it is. So if we say it's urban Meyer Night,
we have to explain. Urban Meyer was the head coach
at Ohio State, head coach of the Jaguars who was
fired because he was terrible. What are the Jaguars? They're
an organization the National Football League? What's the National Football
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League's a place that employees players where they play the
game of football. Okay, what's Ohio State? Ohio State is
a four year institution where people gather knowledge and and
move on and want to graduate and move on to
the workforce. What's the workforce? I mean, we have to
explain everything because urban Meyer doesn't know anything. We have
to go under that assumption that people don't know things.
So we have to do Do you know that urban
Meyer is now working for the foundation aimed at helping
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student athletes land name, image and likeness deals. I thought
you're gonna say he's working for the foundation, the Heart Foundation.
I really thought that's if I could beat Jim the
Anvil nine heard for one day. Now you explain, you
got explained to Jim the Envil Night artist bot A
time part of the Heart Foundation, alongside Brett the Hitman Heart,
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former world champion, was also screwed in the famous Montreal
screw Job. They were managed by the legendary Jimmy Hart,
who you could find all the time down in Florida
with Hulk Cogan, Hulk Cogan, Thunderlips and Rocky three and
a legend in the ring. One of the founding members
of the n w the n w O Scott Hall
and Kevin Nesh Who were they? Scott Hall, wh also
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Raiser Ramon, famous w w F iconic villain, and Kevin
Nash actually showed up in some television and movie projects. Now,
what is Florida? You mentioned Florida. People have to know.
It's this dangly state down south. It's hanging on the
rim and getting a technical like Illinois. Yeah, uh so
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it is urban myke and we'll get to Urban Meyer who. Yes,
of course, story came out today that he did not
who many of the star know who. Many of the
star players in the NFL were, particularly Deebo, Samuel Aaron
Donald and Jamal Adams. Now I do take a little
bit of umbridge because it's supposed to be star players
Jamal Adams is not in that group al right and
talking about he was the guy remember when we talked
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to Softie Miller of a big show there at kJ R.
Uh mine not minute. But Jamal Adams is going to
be key to the resurgence Aaron Donald Star yes, uh Deebo,
Samuel Star, Yes, Jamal Adams. I can forgive for not
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knowing who Jamal Adams is because he's not a star.
He was for a couple of years and maybe he
will be again. I don't know, I'm gonna I got
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common sense. So we'll have more on that story. And
it's just a great fun story that of course urban mire,
but that part of it's fun. The rest of it
paints him as the colossal jackass that we all surmised
he must have been well knew just checking a bunch
of boxes of see it's confirmation of a lot of
things we already had. The only new stuff was he
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didn't know who some of these players were. In the
direct quote was, hey, who's this ninety nine on the rams?
Uh here, We're gonna have trouble with him? And also
didn't know Jamal At Who's didn't know Deebo Samuel. The
other stuff we all knew, mistreated his coaching staff yep,
blame coaches for his own shortcomings. Yep. All these things
we knew. All these things we know. You know what
we needed is for Urban Meyer to go, I don't
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know who this number ninety nine is? Can you tell me?
And then like the window of his office opens and
it's Sean McVeigh with a micro a phone yelling run
it back, run it back. That's what I need. You
neglected to tell people who Sean McVeigh was. That's right.
Sean McVeigh, youngest coach in the National Football League, won
the Super Bowl with the Ramps. Uh. Super Bowl is
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the big sporting event of the year which is watched
by over hundreds of millions of people who are people,
living being, living, breathing beings like you and I. Who
am I? I'm Jason Smith? Who is he? He is
Mike Carman and you are you. So there we go.
There's the explanation. I am the Walrus. Google nicely done.
But we did have another big day on the quarterback carousel,
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and it was led off with Matt Ryan saying goodbye
to his career in Atlanta after fourteen years. He was
traded to the Indianapolis Colts in exchange for a third
round pick this season. Now, other dominoes happened as well.
The Falcons then moved quickly. They signed Marcus Mariota to
a two year deal. Jamis Winston resigned with the New
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Orleans Saints. It Matt Ryan going to the Colts. I
see this move, and honestly, I'm down on it. I'm
just man, I'm just Matt on it. The Colts needed
to go bold. They already went down the road of
here's a veteran who has seen his best days, but
let's hopeful, be hopeful that he can maybe recapture his glory. Here,
I get trying with Carson Wentz. He was younger, he
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was with Frank Wright, the guy that turned him into
a star. I get it. Matt Ryan's a jag. He's
a jag now every single measurable. For Matt Ryan, every
single one is on a four year downward trend since
two thousand eighteen, every single one, no matter what you
want to look at for Matt Ryan, he is not
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nearly the guy he was four years ago. His completions
are down, completion percentages down, yards are down, average yards
are down, touchdowns are down. Interceptions are about the same,
which is not good. His quarterback rating is down. Everything
is down. He has been just a guy. He's he's
looking at his stats. It's like a tiny bit better
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Baker Mayfield, but not much. And and for the Atlanta Falcons,
they've had playmakers, they've had weapons, you know, the for
the most of the last four years, like last year
was very difficult, but they've had guys on offense. Right,
they lucked into Cordarrel Patterson. Oh my god, look at it.
Suddenly the guys really good. Uh, they've had players. No,
so that gave them one last year. Yeah, so they
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didn't last they gave him. That gave him one last year.
And then Kyle Pitch with the quietest thousand yards seasons
that you'll ever tracted by many fantasy owners. Very Kyle Pits,
very quiet thousand yards season. But he's he's not the
same guy. He's the grizzled veteran who can make short throws.
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That's kind of who Matt Ryan is. Like when when
I watched him beat the Jets in England UM in
Week four, and it was embarrassing because he was doing
just the bare minimum. Here's what I need to do.
I'm just gonna throw short before the rush can get
to me because there's nothing that Jets can do to
stop this, because they're the Jets. And had the Jets
been able to do anything more than just send their
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send their rushes at the quarterback and and hope you
can defend one on one, they were gonna lose that game.
And all Matt Ryan did was throw the football fast
and get out of and get out of it fast.
And that beat the Jets. You know what, games like
that and and and and the guy that can throw short. Yeah,
you can beat the bad teams in the NFL. But
the Colts this was supposed to be a big, bold move,
right or say said, hey, we're making big moves now
(08:28):
way now, we're gonna go big a quarterback of it.
And you struck out and you whipped so what you do.
You settled from Matt Ryan. You settled for him. And
so what kind of team are they gonna be this year?
They're gonna be the same team they were last year.
They're gonna they're they're they're talent or across the board
is gonna help them to beat the average to below
average teams. But the elite teams they're gonna struggle against
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because Matt Ryan is just a guy and it's not
like he's surrounded by a ton of weapons to throw too.
That's the one thing. Hey, when you come to Indianapolis,
you've got everything around you, but you gotta be a
quarterback that makes everybody better. And because with Pittman being
your best receiver, yeah, he's just okay. You have a
great offensive line, you have the best running back in
the NFL, you have a really good defense. You get
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a lot there. But you need a quarterback that can
make everybody better, not a guy who will be okay
if he has a lot of weapons. Because the Colts
don't have a lot of weapons. I don't get this
as being the fit for the call, but Colts needed
to go bold. I would have called Arizona for Kyler Murray,
I'd just said, hey, like, hey, do you really you
really upset with this guy? Do you really not like him?
Let's see if he works here playing on turf with us.
I'd have gone after and said, you know what, I
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know he threw thirty picks last year, but he was
really good this year. Let's go get Jamis Winston. See
if he can throw the ball around the yard a
little bit. Because you needed more, clearly, because all you
were doing was backing into the playoffs. If you with
Carson Wentz, how far are you really gonna go? How
far are you gonna go? In this a f C
that's loaded up with all kinds of quarterbacks. This move
is just man. I mean, I like Matt Ryan. He
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was a good quarterback for a long time. You know,
peaked winning the m v P a few years ago.
But he is just a guy. Now. Yeah, I'm not
too old to remember folks in the middle of the season,
even late in the regular season, thinking if these guys
get in, they can win the Super Bowl. So you
can cancel that noise right now. Okay, if they limped in,
how good were they gonna be? Okay, because I seem
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to remember someone started jumping on the bandwagon. I had
to keep grabbing you by the scruff of the neck
to keep you off it. For the car, I gotta
jump on it now, say, okay, I'm antie. I'm not
gonna give any leave no stone unturned. Now. I I'm
not a fan of this deal. It's just met I
I look at it from from Uh, I guess a
little different perspective of they weren't gonna get Kyler Murray
(10:33):
wasn't on the market. And I don't believe that for
a second. What do you want? You want three first
round picks for him? We gotta go bold. We got
a super Bowl winning team right here. We gotta go bold.
Let's go get a quarterback that can make plays. No,
but then you see you're talking out aboutside your mouth.
You're saying they're not very good, and they're like, oh,
we got a super Bowl winning Yeah, if you get
a quarterback, you gotta get a quarterback. Man, you gotta
get a quarterback that can make plays. Blatt Ryan can't
(10:54):
make plays. That's a you know, if you have a
quarterback that could potentially make players better, right, if they
potentially make players better, Uh, that's the guy you go
sign instead of well, let's put Matt Ryan out there
and see what we can do. I mean, you know,
look Reggie Way and walking through that door. He is no, no, no,
you know what he is actually, because he's now their
wide receiver coach. Shows how much you're paying at He's
(11:16):
not knocking onto the field maybe to play. No, I'm
here to coach. That's disappointing. Stats. I was so excited
I thought he was playing again. Oh no, he's just
a wide receiver's coach. Alright, that's fine, just looking at
it from what what's available. Right. Obviously, yes, you you
could go and and try to throw a ton of assets,
(11:38):
but is that helping you long term? And and is
Arizona gonna say? You know what, let's we join these
two at the hip. Let's break this apart and roll
the dice on some other guy, like who who is
Arizona backfilling with? Because Baker Mayfield's and Jack Baker. You
said Baker Mayfields the same guy as Matt Ryan. Well
I'll give you one better. Matt Ryan's better than him
(11:59):
because nobody in the locker room hates him. That's why
he's a little bit better because nobody hates it. That's
why he's a little bit better. You didn't. Never mind,
I gotta lead. I gotta leave some points for you
to make, man, I mean night, you gotta make some
explanations as urban Meyer Knight. I appreciate that, no question
about it. But you know, I look at it for
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a third round pick. Is the world beating No? Can
you go and find another wide receiver or two? I
guess there's still guys available, all right, still guys that
can come alongside Pittman and the red zone monster that
is mo Ali Cox. I just had to say his name,
and then you're figuring out, you know, offensive line, Eric Fisher,
what's what's the deal there? Uh? And obviously Taylor and
(12:42):
Hines in the backfield you're feeling pretty good about defensively solid.
I mean, you gotta go beat the Jaguars. I think
that was one of the best jokes of the day,
the number of times I saw the quote huh fictitiously
attributed to Frank Right, we know he could beat the Jaguars.
That's to why they went and got Matt Ryan, which
(13:02):
I think was pretty funny. But in the end for
what they gave up, Yeah, you you take your shot.
Two years left on his deal not prohibitively expensive. So
you go and look at around the the wide receiver
offerings out there, not to mention the draft, and and
see if you can't you know, augment things here in
(13:22):
free agency, and that he and Frank Reich and Frank
Reich was supposed to magically fix Carson Wentz. And we're
just gonna cite t D to interception ratio. Remember a
lot of that is the throws they won't make, allows
for the touchdown to interception ratio to be so high,
which allows me to give side eye to Aaron Rodgers
while I'm at and see what I did there. So
(13:43):
it's it's that ability for Matt Ryan doing. Am I
the hugest fan of his? No? Do I think he's,
you know, one of those top five seven guys. No,
But in an offense that they want to push forward,
then they have a running game that you can try. Look,
Cordelle Patterson was fantastic as a runner and receiver. That
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was a nice gift that didn't make up for the
lack of opportunists on the outside. Russell Gage had his moments,
and he'll be a nice number three or four eight
or whatever he's doing in Tampa. But this deal for
the Colts. You know, when the world is running down,
you make the best of what's still around the police
and that's what you got. Matt Ryan, Thanks for listening
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Locking for What's Happening, Jay Big day today another one. Yeah,
big days every day in the NFL. Um the quarterback
carousel rolls on and on and on. I mean, eventually
have to find a way for this to keep going, right,
(15:31):
I mean, I know there's only a couple of guys left.
Don't we just start over again after this? Yeah? That,
I just think we do the whole thing again with
like backups and stuff. Maybe we just like do a
redraft and we take quarterbacks like thirty three through sixty
six and throw them in a hopper and have rich
eyes and pull the names out of a hat and
then they get assigned to a random team or something
(15:51):
like that. Ah wait a minutet me write that down.
That could have a game show, you know, seven programming.
There's content right there. All right, So the first things first,
we talked about the Matt Ryant trade a few minutes ago.
I'm kind of mad on it. What were you on this?
I'd say, man, is about it from me as well?
I don't know that they're treading in significantly deeper waters
(16:13):
or more fruitful waters than what they were trolling in
with Philip Rivers two years ago. You know, is this
really that different? I mean, is this really any different.
I'm not sure. Even when you look at the contract now,
it feels very sort of Philip Rivers a million dollars
(16:35):
esque from a couple of years ago. Um. I think
he'll make better decisions and some of the gun slinger
that never really got out of Philip. But we look
at sort of modern football, right and what you want
out of a quarterback from an athleticism and mobility standpoint, Um,
(16:56):
the the ability to move the target point around and
for teams not to kind of know where the ball
is being launched from all the time that you don't
have any of that. UM. Very productive quarterback for a
long time, very smart. He'll be a different kind of leader,
certainly than Carson Wentz. And I think there's a lot
of intangible areas that he can improve it. But he's
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a he's a mean, he's a band aid. It's another
stop gap. Maybe at last a year, maybe at last two,
Maybe you win a playoff game or two in that
period of time. But I just have a hard time
looking at that of quarterbacks in the a f C
and saying, no, Matt Ryan in his age, whatever season
(17:41):
in the thirty seven season, is going to be able
to get that team over the hump in that conference.
I just don't see it. Yeah, I guess at this
point it's the the last resort, right I used the
police of make the best of what's still around, because
I mean, what else could you have swung for when
the rest of the world may very well be runned down? Also,
(18:04):
so that could be the apropos. I would say any
apocalyptic tune might be apropos more to the world at
large than perhaps the NFL, where business is booming. Yeah.
I mean, look, these guys have not been dealing with
the quarterback position from the position to strength since Andrew
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Luck decided on some August night five six years ago
that enough was enough. Um. You know, everything they've done
since then has sort of been reactionary, and I feel
like a little bit piecemeal. And there have been, you know,
some teams that have made very bold moves, whether through
what they gave up in draft pick compensation to move
(18:47):
up um in a particular draft, or two acquire a
veteran quarterback who is someone who's who's still had a
larger window to potentially bring you home the chalice than
what the Colts have been doing, as they've sort of
meandered between you know, the Jacoby Brissetts and you know
(19:08):
the Philip Rivers and the Carson wentz Is, and it's
um in the NFC, you know what I mean, Like
if you put the Indianapolis Colts in the NFC North,
I'd be like, you know, I mean, look, did you
probably get a wild card and then anything that happened.
But it is a the paradigm shift that there is.
(19:29):
It's it's almost like the a f C is the
major leagues. In the NFC is a well, I mean,
they should have been relegated after losing to the Jaguars.
So Carson Wentz was yeah, he was, hey, so before
you get to the other quarterbacks. UM, I don't know.
I feel bad, j because we should have started out
(19:49):
by making sure that in honor of Urban Meyer, everybody
listening knows the people that we're talking about, knows the
star players. After that athletic report today that he didn't
know who some of the star players in the n
FEL were like Aaron Donald and Jamal Adams, and it's
look that that thing. I mean again, I I reported
going in the week one of the last season that
that was a one and duct that everybody around there
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just knew this guy this has no shot, this has
no chance. He doesn't really care, He's disinterested. He didn't
even really care about the staff he put together. He
doesn't care about the players. He really cares about if
he hit those those balls after practice straight or not,
though he cares about what time he leaves the facility. Um,
it just it had I mean I never ever heard
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people talking during O t a s and you know,
before the start of training camp and such like. He
couldn't put a schedule together. He didn't understand the concept
of O t a S. He didn't understand why he
couldn't have a practice on you know, the fourth of July. Like,
I mean, it was like talking to a toddler, you know,
it really was like it was a combination of malignant
(21:00):
arcissism and just a lack of any sort of inquisitive
nature whatsoever. Yeah, I mean, it's an all time great
flame out. And um I wish you know that my
employers did not have rules against me gambling, because if
I could have got myself to anywhere to bet on
(21:22):
urban Meyer as a one and done, I would have
put everything I have on it. By the start of
last season, it had no chance and we watched. I
didn't think the Columbus stuff would happen, though, even that
raised the bar from me, like the not flying home
with the team that I gotta say, even I didn't
see that one coming. The Bingo cards continues Jason Locking
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for CBS Sports seven the Fan in Baltimore with us
at Jason Locking for on Twitter is where you find
in the Jason Smithshow with My arm and here on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, so the dance cards are
filling up, Jimmy G's recovering from shoulder surgery, and Sad
Baker mayfields out there. He wanted the Colts, Colts didn't
(22:05):
want him. Where's he end up? She's I just don't
know that Carolina, Like, do they really want to mediocre
quarterbacks on their fifth year option? Mediocre to you know? Look,
and I think Baker is better than the same Donald,
But I just don't think that they can go that route.
They've already already paying somebody nineteen million dollars who they
(22:27):
know isn't their future quarterback Um the Texans or they
know they're gonna ride this Davis Mills thing out, And
maybe they just asked somebody, maybe they don't. I think
San Francisco could be interesting for him. But from a
timing standpoint, they're not gonna want to carry Baker Mayfield
and Jimmy g together for any prolonged period of time,
(22:50):
you know, cap cash all that. Um it just doesn't
make sense. But they need somebody in that role that
Trey Lance isn't ready, and I don't know how anybody
could guarantee that Tray Lance is going to be ready. UM.
I think the boots and the waggles and some of
the things Baker can do when you do move him
(23:10):
off the spot, because that with his limited size, that
does help. Um. I mean, he he has you know
what a playoff came to the NFL, So I could
see him in Shanahan system being a little bit interesting.
But they've got to obviously move Garoppolo. And I don't
know that the Garoppolo trade two weeks from you know,
(23:31):
removed from sold shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder. I
don't know the time frame right now is is great
for them to move him, you know? And I mean
Seattle for Baker Mayfield could be interesting as well. You know,
he was drafted by John Dorsey First. Overall, John Dorsey
is very close with John Schneider, the GM of the Seahawks.
Those guys came up together with the Packers. They do
(23:53):
have some I think they share some sort of over
arching scouting philosophies. You know, at times they tend to
like the same sort of players. Could that be a
play for for Seattle, um? But I think San Francisco
think could be interesting. You know, he's he had a
rough season last year, but he hasn't had the injury
(24:14):
history that Garoppolo has year over year. Maybe they see
a little more upside there and he's cheaper um. But
then it's like, okay, well, unless they're trading Garoppolo to
their rival, you do start running out of options, you know,
Carolina UM for for Garoppolo, I mean maybe you know
(24:35):
somebody's somebody's got to do the job. But yeah, it's
this is this is a new one for me, man
um This this this quarterback roulette? Is that a whole
another level? How much did the Garoppolo injury affect everything
going only because I kind of feel like had he been,
(24:57):
had he been healthy, that trade would have been done,
would have been the first one done, and everything would
have gone after that. Yeah, I mean I think I think,
you know, I think Washington would have been more apt
to do something like that. I know the Steelers liked him,
you know, but if if we really want to try
to run back Canada's offense and our starting quarterbacks, you know,
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not gonna start his throwing program for July, you know,
first week of July and O t A s are over?
Can we you know what I mean? Is that is
that tenable? Like are we really going to give up,
you know, at three and a two or whatever and
then hope this guy is ready for the start of camp.
I know there were people reporting that the combine like
it's no big deal, it's not gonna affect, like it's
(25:41):
not going to offend, talking about like he can't throw
until July NFL activities are over. The only time there's
nothing going over the NFL is like July July. How
did you know what you mean? How are you going
to know what you have? So and it could be
(26:02):
one too where the forts are content to just let
it play out, because unfortunately, the sad reality is through
those O t A periods, somebody's gonna slip and have
a freak injury. Right, somebody's gonna have an Achille, somebody's
gonna have an a c L. Some team that today
feels like they have more quarterbacks than they need come
(26:24):
May or June might be feeling like, oh, believe we
don't have we don't have a starting quarterback. So it
may work to their favorite, but absolutely in the end maybe,
but yeah, he would have been in that first wave,
and there's certainly people who would have preferred him, if healthy,
to what they got. But again, it's very tough to
(26:44):
make that trade when the guys having surgery on his
throwing shoulder. As the league years opening up, He's on
Twitter at Jason lock and four That is at Jason
lock and for a CBS Sports NFL insider, Jay is
always buddy, Thanks to your time, and if any more
quarterbacks go anywhere, we'll call you right back. Hey, I'm
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The Lakers want a basketball game? How about that? And
everybody's back on the Lakers. Oh, they beat Cleveland tonight.
(27:46):
Who knew? Hey the beginning of the season. Hey, the
Lakers beating Cleveland in March is gonna be a huge
win for them. You'd say, what are you crazy? Cleveland's
gonna win twelve games? What are you talking about? The
Lakers got Russell Westbrook. They're gonna be killing everybody. They're
gonna have sixty five wins. No, the Lakers beating Cleveland
and Cleveland in the Return of the King DJ Return
(28:07):
of the King uh qualifies for a huge win for
the Lakers. Look at it was Cleveland team. Yeah, I
mean they got a better record than the Lakers by
ten games. Exactly. A big night from Lebron thirty eight
twelve assists, eleven rebounds, of course, passing karmelone over the weekend.
(28:27):
Now all alone in second place, will pass Kareem Abdul
Jabbar sometime next season. Uh for likely at some point
unless he gets hurt. You never know, he could be out,
but likely next season, he becomes the all time leading
score in NBA history. And he has done something that
I didn't know that he would do. Because I've told
you from the beginning, Lebron is gonna play as long
(28:48):
as the Lakers are firmly in the playing round, right.
There's no hiding from the fact that we're in the
playing round. Right, So now it's gonna be all right.
I can't get out, I can't find my way sitting down,
I can't back away from the team unless now that
I've passed car alone, this I really wanted to do
this year. Unless we look like we're falling out of
(29:09):
the playing round and the Lakers aren't. Right, they won tonight,
that's great. Uh, there's ten games left and they have
a three and a half game lead on the Spurs,
who are in eleventh place. Right now, now before you think, well,
but if the Lakers just go like three and seven,
If the Lakers go three and seven, they're gonna have
it clinched. The Spurs aren't gonna go too Not all
(29:29):
of these teams are terrible, right. That's the thing is
people forget all these teams are. You can look and
say in the Eastern Conference and say, well, Milwaukee could
go on a run and maybe pass Philadelphia and Miami
for first place. Yeah, because they're only two or two
and a half games back. Uh, and they're a good team.
When you're a good team, you can say, hey, we
can win eight of out of our last ten. But
you're looking at the Spurs and the Blazers who were
(29:52):
sixteen and seventeen games below five hundred. They're not going
eight and two and run a blistering pace to end
the season at still go five and five. So if
they go five and five and the Lakers win three, yeah,
the Lakers are in the playing round and Lebron will
still keep playing because that's what's gonna happen. It's really
hard to fall out right now at this point because
even look look at look at Portland's Portland has been
(30:14):
awful there two and eight the last ten games. But
because everybody's bad, even they haven't fallen so far off
everybody and where they were three weeks ago, this, and
they sent up the flare today that Damian Lillard ain't
coming back and it don't matter because the King's Thundering
Rockets are that bad man. So yeah, the Spurs, they
(30:35):
have got that win over Golden State the other day
and everybody had to do a double take, going, hey,
wait a minute, this could screw everything up for the
final ten games of the season. Pelicans, you know, Zion
not expected back when that didn't change from two months ago.
You were just hoping you'd see some workout videos at
some point beyond that, you move on. Yeah, the Lakers
(30:59):
big win, Darius Garland had his you know, monster game
in front of folks, and and Kevin Love got posterized
after giving Lebron the sleeper hold and a and a
neck lock like he was gonna get, you know, do
the bulldog maneuver on him. Uh and instead, you know,
he's now going to be part of some top shot
(31:20):
moment or some bootleg video on the net for the
next you know week or so. But yeah, there's there's
nobody catching them because they're awful. Like I think that's
the worst thing is to look in the mirror go
no matter how hard we try, and and you got
the bonus of all. Look there's Anthony Davis working out,
so all of a sudden with this win, everybody's excited.
(31:44):
Everybody started getting all juiced up against and and see
this is the one winners of two out of three,
and look they're playing with hard again. Yeah, here they are.
And then they hey, they win there, out of the
playing round, what do they get a first round matchup
against the Suns. Oh, you're going home in four games,
but they don't have Chris Paul in their last ten ridiculous.
(32:06):
One more game and they clinch first place in in
in the Western Conference with ten games left. One more
win and they clinch first place. Yeah, good luck. You
want to avoid them, uh so? But still, hey, this
means Lebron will still be playing, He will get closer
to cream, and the Lakers will still stay relavant. Because
as much as we make fun of the Lakers, uh is,
(32:27):
what's gonna be a more fun playing round with Lebron
playing in it? Or if the Spurs somehow get it.
And you're talking about the Timberwolves, the Clippers, the Pelicans
and the Spurs. Who cares about those games? No, it's
better when you have the Lakers in it. It's where
it's star power. As we've seen the last couple of years.
When you have the playing around, you have star power
in it, it's a big deal. How big was the
(32:48):
playing around last year? Because Steph Curry was in it? Right,
both games they played big, big deals. They're out? What
was it? Those were seismic events. When you have good
teams in it, people are gonna care in the East.
The Nets are gonna be in the playing round as
good as they are. We're we're a championship team. Now
you're in the playing round, you're gonna be two games
from going home. I mean, it's could be a big
(33:09):
time player you're gonna have as gonna be in the
playing round. Playing round is gonna be fun. Man, It's
gonna be fun. Little LaMelo Ball getting after it sure
are over. Think about if the Clippers all of a
sudden they break glass like it's stone cold Steve Austin,
and all of a sudden there's Paul, George and Leonard
(33:32):
come into the you know, like it's a tag team
match gone to hell. Oh my god, there they are.
But I mean, that's one of the things you have
to look at and I think the Lakers as an
organization and from Lebron James and on down looking around, going,
how are the Clippers five games better than us? When
they're two guys haven't played Yeah, yeah, their best two
(33:54):
guys I haven't played in there and they have. They're
they're not sweating anything out right now, like, yeah, we're
good right here they are. They are basically locked into
being the eight seed, to being the eight seed now
and in the playing tournament, they are locked into that
without having their two best players. The worst of it, though,
is the Timberwolves, right, you are half a game from
the sixth seed, alright, so you got them in the Nuggets,
(34:14):
whichever one falls in. But you're that far ahead of
everybody else in the play and but one bad night
and you go home, and let's get too bad nights obviously,
but but just the just but just the idea that
you know, two games could determine even though you were
ten games ahead of these guys for the entirety of
the season. But you know what, that's what that what
(34:36):
they were hoping to do, right, It's the second wild
card in baseball. It's adding a seven seed to the NFL.
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Ryan get traded to the Colts. Love more on him
coming up in about twenty five minutes. Marcus Mariota will
likely become his air apparent, will him or Josh Rosen?
Oh boy uh in Atlanta? But the move I like
the most today, and this was a team playing poker,
and they played poker in a way which it was
(35:43):
more of a calculated gamble. But Jamis Winston goes back
to the Saints two years and twenty eight million dollars.
And I like this move for two reasons. One is
because from a football standpoint, he was really good last year, right,
People forget there. Seven weeks of the season, Jamis Winston
was terrific. Right, the Saints were five and two, they
(36:05):
were rolling in. It was man. Anybody who plays quarterback
in a Sean Payton system winds up playing well, whether
it's Drew Brees or Teddy Bridgewater, Taysom Hill and outlook
at Jamis Winston. He was terrific and the Saints were
very good. Then Winston got hurt and things kind of
spiraled from there. But Winston was still someone who had
(36:26):
reinvented himself and become someone that you had thought would
have had a better market. But two years of twenty
eight million, even though twenty one million dollars of it's guaranteed,
that's not real. Hey, I believe in you as a
starter money. This is like, Hey, no other teams really
interested in you. We're not gonna insult you to make
(36:46):
you like a one year ten million dollar offer, so hey,
we'll give you like fourteen million a year, which is like,
what if you have the best backup in the world.
That's the money you're gonna make. So it shows you
that not a lot of teams. We're in it for Winston,
which was part of the calculated gamble because New Orleans
was in on Deshaun Watson. I'm sure it was, Hey, listen,
we're our guy. If we can't get Deshaun Watson, we're
(37:09):
gonna go after here. We're coming back to you and Winston.
I'm sure said, all right, I've kind of restarted my
career here. Last year I was injured. They're gonna get me,
and if something happens, well, then I'll find another destination somewhere.
I'm still gonna be the best quarterback left on the market.
Jimmy Garoppolo is hurt. No one's gonna be able to
sign him for a while, know if he's healthy for
a while. So okay, So the the poker was good.
(37:30):
The risk on him was good because of what he
did last year. But the other part of this that
makes so much sense is that sometimes a quarterback just
fits what your team is doing for this year. Right
the Saints are unsure of year one after Sean Payton.
Did they trust Dennis Allen? He's gonna be a great
head coach? You have no idea is he is he
(37:52):
gonna Are we just gonna keep it rolling? Or are
we really gonna miss Shawan Payton that much? We're unsure.
Do we load up on free agents for this year
with Dennis Allen? Oh? I don't know. Does he have
a vision that we trust? Oh? I don't know. We're
kind of in a in between, I don't know year.
So the best thing to do is what Let's do
(38:13):
a wait and see year. Let's see how things look
this year, and then we can get really in depth
on philosophy and strategy and going out and getting free
agents and really seeing who the leaders of this of
this team are going forward. So really, Jamis Winston fits
with that exact vision. He was good here last year.
Let's bring him back again. We don't know what we're
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gonna get. We don't know what kind of team we're
gonna be. We don't our philosophy is gonna be, we
don't know what our identity is going to be. We've
lost in the last three years Drew Brees and Sean Payton.
That's a tough thing, right, They were constants for twenty
years and now we've lost both of them. So, yeah,
there's gonna be a bit of we really don't know
where we're going. We're not suddenly sold on a vision
where one coach and one quarterback leave and another coach
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another quarterback are coming in. It's not like that. Now,
there's a lot of unknown. So because he fits in
with that vision of the unknown, because Winston still kind
of an unknown himself, I love this move for the Saints.
I think I think that this is one of the
best quarterback moves that we've seen the last few days. Well, remember,
you basically have a first round pick coming back in
Michael Thomas who played a little bit and then went away,
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right He Marcus Callaway, got guys that could work down
the seam, obviously Kenny Stills, so guys that can go
get a tray Kwan Smith. Will he ever be we
don't know, but still there Um obviously Camara. But for
Jamis Winstone, Winston, Winstone, Winstone, Ray Winstone, Ray Winstone, I
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don't know why Ray Winstone popped into my head. They
just yeah, I just did. But for Jamis Winston, right
came off. As you mentioned, the the giant pinball numbers
of touchdowns and interceptions to where all right, you know,
he can sling it, but now you need to refine
the skills and went to masters school, as he called
Sean Payton's offense, and then he gets hurt right as
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you're starting to show something. And depending on the organization,
maybe they weren't willing to to go down that road
and didn't want to outbid and overpay fifteen million plots.
Remember New Orleans came into this whole off season really
cash trapped and did a lot of reconfiguring and readjustments
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to try to free themselves up some money. So that
and probably have to do the same with Taysom Hill,
although I'm not sure what the guarantees are for him,
but I would think under Dennis Allen he goes to
you know, being more the back slash tight end slash
gadget guy again than being a quarterback consideration, and although
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it's experimentation that Sean Payton had done goes out the window.
But you have a great defense. Still rumors about potential
editions out there, still trying to figure out because the
honey Badger was was tied there early. I've seen other
teams pop up of late right, most notably the Indianapolis Colts,
who we've been talking about today. But for for Jamis Winston, Yeah,
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it's it's the perfect spot. And you get to go
play catch with Michael Thomas, assuming he sound and ready
to go. Yeah, it's I don't. I don't think there
was anything better for him in a organization that embraced
him and he started to grow and into that role.
And now he bets on himself, right, short term deal?
(41:29):
Uh And if he puts up numbers, then we'll be
talking about him in the thirties range soon enough. And look,
and I know you don't like him, I know you're
not a fan of his, but bringing Winston back, all right,
what if he doesn't work out? Taysom Hill honestly is
the best backup quarterback in the NFL. That's the He's
(41:50):
the backup. I don't You don't like him as a starter,
but I don't like him was a backup either. But oh,
come on, you just hate Taysom Hill. Man. I love
Taysom Hill. He's one of the nicest guys we've ever
had on our show. One that wasn't a regular, you know,
friend of the show. He's got a cal Ripken esque
streak of coming on our show. Once a year. I mean,
that's he's done it the last year. I'm not no, no, no,
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it's not the man. It's the aptitude as But what
other what other backup that you? Okay, we this guy
could come in and win games and and be dynamic
and make plays and not just be someone who, hey,
hand the ball off, you know, forty times and then
throw it only when we tell you. I mean, you know,
you need somebody that can make some plays. There's no
better backup quarterback in the NFL. That's a that's a
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very sad state of affairs. Hey, I just talk about reality. Man.
I'm just trying to go through the game. I tell
you what it is. Because everybody liked Honley with the Ravens.
But I had to remind a bunch of folks that
they lost all six of those games. So that doesn't
h Jacoby Burr sets now the backup in Cleveland, uh to.
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Rod Taylor continues his fantastic voyage of his NFL career.
Right because he signed eel when it Where is he
now or is he a free agent at the moment? No,
he went to the Giants. So there you go, trond Taylor.
We'll see what befalls him next, But no, it is,
it is truly. It does make you think though about
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the the backup position and how um how much of
a waste land it is, at least on the surface, right,
Because how many teams do you say, all right, that
guy is serviceable and come in and and Taysom Hill.
I guess he's serviceable, so he'll fit that fit that
bill for you know what about Gino Smith? He won
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games although he may be the starter at this are
you yeah? Yeah, I mean you'll come out. Are you
just mentioning? You know, just because you know he gets
under my skin, just like Tastom Hill get under your skin.
I feel like you're only bringing up something because you
knew that would get a rise out of me. When
I knew, I did not taste what I knew it would, actually,
but I still do. Taysom Hill is the best backup
in the NFL. Well, I mean Nick Foles, he's got
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a Super Bowl rain. Oh Nick, you can't can't put
anything like that. Yeah, look what I did? I just
did you show wrong right there? How about Taylor Heidechi
you kid, you kids, I'll take Taylor, I'll you know what,
I'll take Taylor Heidechi there kid. It took a lot
of scanning, but I found one twittering out about a
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