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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Hello, Welcome inside final
hour tonight of The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. The part of Mike Harmon tonight being
played by David Gascon. Much taller, much better looking. He
sounds sexy. You got your own line there in the
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open already. I know who did that? Uh? Let me
ask you, how sick are you of people always just
bringing up Gaston from Beauty and the Peace with you
when you say your last name? Well, that's got that's
gotta get to you at something. No, you know what,
I take that over anyone tenneth fully at me with
the with the district attorney here in Los Angeles. I'll
take that. Okay, Well, that that that's something that nobody
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really knows who that person is. That's not true, that's
not true. Really, what are we gonna do? Play a
drop of of of the d A and people go,
what is that all about? Now you play a drop
from Beauty and the Beast. Okay, it's good. Then, well people,
I mean, you know, Los Angeles is in the news
a lot, Los Angeles, San Francisco. Nobody listen. Life is
not the movies where people know the name of every
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cop that lead to So why do you always ask
me those comp related questions at the bottom there. I
have a lot of cop related questions for you. But
just so you know, there's nobody knows the name of
any police officer. But if you watch movies, it's and
this police officer, you know super Boy, you know Michael
Rappaport from I Didn't. Nobody knows the names of anybody
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the Los Angeles no nobody, Nobody knows the names of
any no one. No one targets any detective for a
case from twenty five years ago. It starts to every
Dick notes that everybody knows who John McClean is. Everybody
knows who David Mills is. Like, that's you know David Mills,
Red Pitts. Come on, I think you man, I thought
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you just trying to go Davis Mills. Like nobody knows
who Davis Mills. More more people know who Davis Mills
and than David Mills. Everybody knows John mcclins. It made
like a hundred different movies. We're trying to say John
McClean was the one. Yeah, police officer. Nobody does the
name of any police officer, No one does. Nobody knows. Okay,
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that's a that's a movie thing. Only nobody knows. Nobody knows, nobody.
I am. I am grateful that you allow me to
ride shotgun tonight on the show. Um four hours. Definitely
good as we make our way with a good night
with the drama and Major League Baseball, some playing games
and uh yeah, a lot to chew on all right now,
now before we get into a big star, I'm glad
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you because I do have one comperlated Okay, speaking speaking
of the movies, Okay, does it does it? Does it
always happen that police officers get together in someone's backyard
barbecue cook out, and and that's where a lot of
drama happens before like the big stuff happens in the
you know, like like with a case like this, do
we get do they get the backdrop of what everybody is?
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Like it like some big backyard barbecue. Always always the case.
It's like typically doing like a kincignetta or someone's like
some young child's birthday, um, fourth of July. And these
guys don't get a lot of time off, and so
when they're resetting, you know, timing is everything in life,
especially in civil servant work. And so these police officers
called out to duty and uh gotta cocton rocket, you know,
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So okay, I just want to make sure. It was
just curious about does that happen you in radio? Does
it happen you in television? Like when you're oh no, no, no,
no people people are always very surprised. Like like friends
of mine used to say, and this is before COVID,
they would say, hey, do you mind if I come
in and see the radio station one night? I'm like, yeah, sure,
come on in, Yeah, no problem, Like they're expecting to
come in and see I don't know, they expect to
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like all kinds of crazy sports member of Belia, like
hey there's shock shoe, you know, there's a there's a
basketball that Lorenzo Charles dunk to win the eighty three
n c A Championship. You know, here's here's a here's
the line from the longest game in Major League Baseball history.
And yeah, there's tickets lying around all over the place
for different games, and it's like some big bullpennery. Oh
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there's a Stanley Cup and they walk in. It's oh,
it's just the studio where you're just sitting down with microphone,
dirty laundry, a bad frigerator, Alex Tysher eating grass. You know.
The best part though, was when you always left the studio.
Is that Ben Mallory would would bitch for fifteen minutes
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on his opening segment about the studio smelling like death.
That was the best part. Like he made so dramatic
that he was high hurtling over trash and debris and
and how everything in the studio just smelled god awful
from the notoriously lie. That's a complete lie. It was
complete lie. I always make sure that stuff is thrown
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away because I'm always the one that doesn't want stuff left.
When I'm walking in, I'm like, dude, your mom doesn't
work here. Stuff no, no, no, not me. And and
if it smelled fine, it's I smell bad. It's not me,
it's not it wasn't me. It wasn't me, It wasn't
at all. On that note, when when am I going
to see you again? I haven't seen you for like
three years? Well when I think when I can come in,
when I can win Colleague of the month? If I
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come in, do I get cut tie shirt? If I
come in for a night, do I get Colleague of
the month? Depends what do you bring in? And you
have to come in on your own accord. You can't
be like Mike Harmon while your entire network just shuts
off in the middle of a show. No no, no no.
If I could don't say his name, if I come
in and I ordered pizza for every boll of course
you would't want pizza. Well, can I pick the place
for pizza that it doesn't actually have pizza? Or is
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it like, here's pizza with a Collie flower crust and
instead of cheese, it's just glue that you can kind
of public glue? I mean, and I mean it's got
me a real pizza. I have an issue with the
fact that you're trying to make me like some hipster
vegan guy when that is not who I am. What
if it's like cauliflower with jackfruit on top. No, that's
not Actually it sounds pretty good, Jason, I will. I
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will tellst like nothing I'd ever wanted. I wouldn't need
it either. You want a cauliflower with jack Yeah, you know,
I'll stay home. Screw your colleague in about the ward? Okay,
how about this, When Mike was here and he won
the award, he bought Ginos for everybody. I ate it
and it was cheese on it. Okay. Number one not
a real award. Number two, place named Genos where it's
a Chicago place over here or something where where where
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Genos is not a literally it's not a real place
to Chicago places in Chicago. It's not really here. Yea.
They built out heroes, no harmon, said Genos, just to
make you think of you know, it had the box.
He just went to a food truck that was out
Jason tasted. Let me tell you this. If he paid
eighty bucks for too deep dish and they were not Geno's,
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he got robbed. That's all I'm gonna say. When he
went to a MPM because the Dodgers stole it up
of the basis got a couple of hot dogs that
brought him in. It sounds like this, this is this
sounds like a guy who's upset he did not win
Employee of the Month kind of thing. That's what it
sounds like. First of all, Colleague of the Month. And
second of all, it's not a real thing. It is,
it's not. I'm looking at the award right through the screen. Yeah. See,
it's typically controlled by Ernie Spaniers since he brings us
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like pancake every year during the holiday season. So pancake mix. Yeah,
like like like just the powder of paint from Vermont. Baby,
it's like Vermont pancake mix, the Vermont maple syreal so good.
He does it every year. He just brings mix, not
not like real pancakes, like he ships up from Vermont.
Him and his wife do it every year for the staff,
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for everybody. They send boxes for everybody. Jason, I've not
gotten pancake mix once. Because you have a come to
the studio for three years. It doesn't matter, it does not.
I was in studio a couple of months ago when
the cable one out in my I had to come in.
I was there a couple of months ago. How painful?
Is that for you? And with this and with this
kind of attitude, why would I why would I come
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in to see you? Guys? Hey, how about a hug?
Can I win Colleague of the month. If I can
win Colleague of the month, maybe maybe you'll see me. Maybe,
Well we'll put the plaque in the woman's locker room.
How about that? You kill me? You really do know?
I might come in just to rip that piece of
paper down. What do you have against Isaac Loancron. It's
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not a real award, it's not. It's just it's just
a made up thing. And to actually tell me Bucky
Brooks wanted two months in a row. The guy works
one day a week for four hours. Can't You can't win.
You can't win Colleague of the month working one day
for four hours. Can't do that? You know, you need
to be something that that Bucky is. You have to
be that team guy. You have to be you have
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to be more than Jason Smith and Mike Harmon Money
through Friday. That's two people. He's one person, I know,
But you are the show man. You're like the ringleader.
You're really instigator. Sure, so you have to come in
work on a weekend. Then that's what you have to
do Saturday or is Sunday? Yeah, yeah, I'm not busy
that day. I'm busy. I'm busy. I'm busy. Uh So,
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Clayton Kershaw today gets taken out of a perfect game,
seven innings, eighty pitches. There was absolutely no metric that
says Clayton Kershaw should come out of this game. None,
none at all. Early in the season, he hasn't thrown
a lot of pitches, hasn't built up his arm. He's
cruising with eighty pitches through seven innings. You can leave
him out there. We told you earlier. If you want
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to be upset at David at Dave Roberts, He's not
the guy, all right. Dave Roberts is a former player.
He doesn't want to pull guys out. But this is
the third time it's happened, right, raw Strippling Richiell, these
guys with perfect games and no hitters. This is a
call from above. And I don't mean like the heavens.
I mean this is a call from the front office
that says, hey, this is the plan for the game tonight,
and when Kershaw gets around eighty pitches, we take him out.
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That's how it works, right, That's why he's out. He's
it out because Dave Roberts is saying, hey, we gotta
save his arm. No, if it was up to Dave Roberts,
Kershaw would have been able to convince him to say,
put me back out on the mound. I can do it, right.
So being mad at Dave Roberts, you're just being mad
at the mess in German. Right. But let's take it
from a different angle here, because the big discrepancy, or
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the big argument for this is why you take Clayton
Kersha out is some of the things that I just said.
He hasn't thrown more than fifty seven pitches this spring,
it's cold in Minnesota. For everybody that thinks you should
leave him in, look at those situations before you want
to make a decision. Um, you know what, here's the thing. Uh,
just because he's throwing eighty pitches doesn't mean he can't
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throw another fifteen or twenty. Guys routinely throw near a
hundred pitches. Are you taxing his arm? If he had
stressful innings? I would say yeah. But this is what
this is what the argument is to anyone who says,
look at the just look at the number of pitches. No, no,
because it's not about the number of pitches. That's not
what gets pictures hurt. It's the number of stressful innings
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that they pitch over the course of a game. Because
not every eighty pitch outing is the same. Right, if
Clayton Kershaw had an eighty pitch outing in which he
was shutting out the Twins, let's just say, let's say
it's not a perfect game. You're just talking about when
to take him out of the game, right, Let's just
say that, So he's shutting out the Twins, is the
three nothing game in the seventh inning, and he's throwing
eighty pitches, Well, what's But what's his dave been like? Well,
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you know, he sailed through the first and the third
and the fourth, but in the second inning he threw
twenty two pitches, in the fifth inning he threw twenty
one pitches, and in the sixth inning he threw eighteen pitches.
Then you go, hmm, that's three high stress innings. That's
three innings of over or near twenty pitches. That's when
you want to take a guy out, because that's what
gets a guy hurt. When he throws too many high
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stress innings. When you're sailing through with ten, eleven and
twelve pitches at an inning, which is what Clayton Kershaw
was doing, you can easily go back out there and pitch.
It's not like he was in trouble. It's not like
he was laboring, and you could take him out right away.
If he hits a guy, you could take him out
because it's a no hit or not a perfect game, right,
and then okay, he's pitching no hitter before he can
let the guy go. But it's about the stressful innings.
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And that's the big thing about a picture. Right. Yo
On Santana who threw a no hit or of the Mets,
the only no hitter in Mets history about eight years ago. Uh,
did that start put him on the decline for his career. Yeah.
You could say that I'm not gonna walk away from
and say you're not. But the guy threw a four pitches. Okay,
that's a lot more than eighty. Okay, that's fifty four
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more pitches because I could do meth really fat, that's
fifty four more pitches. You're talking about the guy through.
That's a lot of stressful innings because you're talking about it,
oh hitter, where there's walks and there's full counts and
a lot of pressure. Clayton Kershaw had had the most
benign day you could possibly think of. This is the
absolute day you leave him into pitch when it's a
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perfect game. There's nothing against it where you could you
could argue encounter and say, yeah, this was happening, so
we should take them out. There was nothing. The only
reason to take him out is just because, well, something
might happen. Something might happen to anybody at any point
in time in a baseball game or anywhere else. You
can't stop living, you can't stop doing that because something
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might happen. If you had something concrete that I said, Okay,
you know what Kershaw said. His elbow was bothering him,
or his arm is a little sore, he was tied something.
If you add something that, then okay, that's great. I
get it. I understand. But there's no reason other than uh,
maybe something could happen. Yeah, something could happen all the time.
If Clayton Kershaw wins a cy Young this season, will
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that impact his legacy? Yeah, I have I'll have even
a bigger legacy than he has. So if he wins
a league m VP with that impacts his legacy, of course,
I mean probably Pete Alonzo was gonna win, but that's okay.
If he wins, okay. So if he wins a Gold Glove,
does that impact his legacy a tiny bit? It tmes
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It becomes a footnote and Clayton who also won X
amount of Gold Gloves? So if he does any or
all three of those things during the regular season this
year and the Dodgers don't get to the World Series
and he doesn't have a major impact in their postseason run,
what does it mean. It's just it's another accomplishment for
a guy that has had his stellar Hall of Fame
career in the regular season. No one's gonna talk about
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Clayton Kershaw anymore than they already have about his regular
season accomplishments. He's thrown a no hitter, He's won multiple
Cy Youngs, He's won a World Series. He's more synonymous
with burning out in the seventh inning of playoff games
than he is with anything else. I mean, you draw
comparisons to him and Peyton Manning throughout their entire careers
because of what the excellence during the regular season and
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the inability to take it over the top in the postseason.
That's exactly who he's been. So if you're the Dodgers,
you want at least try to get that horse to
the finish line and having him go eight innings or
nine innings and possibly get not into major trouble, but
having his pitch account extended because of a tough at
batter two that could be a detriment to them in
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his next start. That's one of the things that they
talked about is if if he goes a full nine,
throws a perfect game, but he throws a hundred ten pitches,
maybe a hundred fifteen, does he go on regular rest
in his next start? Does he get two additional days off?
Does he get injured? Does he run out of gas?
Is eating that good of shape yet? None of those
things we don't know. But we do know this is
that it's April thirteen and they want to get into
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September and October, so they're gonna set a caution for
a team that's won one World Series since nineteen and
it was a shortened season because of COVID, So you
had to see where the Dodgers are coming in to
play with something like this, because I don't think they're
gonna bring back Trevor Bauer. So who do you have
that starting rotation that you think will be there at
the end of the line. Trevor Bauer not gonna be there.
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You are you are fast forwarding to the end of
this course. And when we're talking about another fifteen pitches
from a guy in this start in April, but that
we're talking about the l A Dodgers. It's like we're
talking to the American League about the Boston Red Sox
of the the New York Yankees. These aren't like your cupcake
organizations that look just to have one good year every
five seasons. There's an expectation when you have one of
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the biggest payrolls in all of Major League Baseball that
not only you're gonna win, but you're also gonna make
some noise in the postseason. And so when they don't
do that, much like the Lakers, there's gonna be hell
to pay and guys should be held accountable. In Clayton
Kershaw's one of them. Okay, what does that have to
do with him pitching an extra fifteen pitches today for
a perfect game something that three people in the history
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of the game baseball, and fifty years old, we got
twenty three perfect games. Of course, But when you look
at all those guys, how many of them are are
Hall of famers? How of them had great careers? A
handful of them? Right, But wouldn't you if you're Clayton
kersher had the option throw a perfect game now or
be competitive and somewhat good in the postseason? What would
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you rather pack? But but that? But that's not But
that's not It's not one or the other. It's not like, Okay,
so he didn't pitch today, that means he's gonna be
good in the postseason. Doesn't mean pitch good today. He's
gonna suck in the posts. Some things aren't two things.
He throws an extra fifteen pitches right now, which means
he's not going to be have anything in October. That
doesn't that doesn't, That doesn't compute. But it stretches him.
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It stretches him, and it stretches a guy that's not
in good shape, not great shape yet, and a guy
that's been on the injury list last couple of seasons
a lot more than he was the first six seven
years of his entire career. Think about it from the
flip from the flip side. If it was eighty pitches
and he stays in, is anybody saying, what, why is
he still and you gotta take him out? Is anybody
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saying that? But not? No, no, because that's the right callches.
If it was a hundred pitches and you left him in,
there's a lot of people saying, hey, yeah, it's an
extra twenty pitches. That's a lot. You're talking about an
extra couple of stressful innings. Yeah, then you're gonna bit
up about a hundred and twenty pitches when it's all
said and done. Yeah, I don't know about that. No,
that then that's legit. But no one is saying, oh,
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I can't believe you you. I can't believe you didn't
take him out after eight pitches? But what's your what's
your max that on a pitch count? If he goes
eight innings and throws a hundred pitches, then do you
remove him off he's up around a hundred, then you
start thinking about it. Yeah, if he's up around a hundred. Yeah,
But this was, like I said, this was eighty. This
is if if if you could have put some sort
of Dictionary definition saying when do you leave a guy
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in to pitch a perfect game in the first week
of in the second week of April, and you would
say things like, he's cruising through seven, his pitch count
is very low, he's got a lot of strikeouts, he
doesn't have stressful innings. That would be the dictionary debt.
And that's what today he was. And still no, we're
gonna take about But I can guarantee you right now
that there's certain guys that you can name in Major
League Baseball that would take the rock and they're a
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little bit older, that would go in the eighth and
ninth inning and could do it. Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer,
those are two guys that come to my mind. Those
are guys that can actually do it. Kershaw is not
that guy. We saw him two years ago against the Astros,
three years ago, four years ago, now, bad math um.
He didn't take the rock in Game seven on two
days rest against the Astros when they need to win
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a game at home, must win obviously Game seven for everybody,
he didn't take the rock. He got Sheldon Game five. Now,
some people obviously can make the argument about what was
going on at Houston. But nine pitches, you're the ace
of that staff and you don't demand the rock. Then
if he didn't demand the rock, then in game seven,
what makes you think gonna demand the rock today? And
that's what you should have been done. Be sure to
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thick takes cheap shots like Gaston that takes shots. Yes,
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listen up, I've given a microphone for that expect or rate. Hey,
speaking of expector rating, I gotta get to at least
eight nine inches and then it's going to be good.
Come on, man, a family show, dude, what's wrong with you?
Fater ten? Baby? Not yet? Just safe Harbor? Safe haven?
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Something different? Is it? Yeah? I think so safe. That's
a leading safe word. I think. I think. I think
safe Haven is a movie with Ryan Reynolds. To get
a safe Haven with Ryan Reynolds. Does he have a
beard in that one? Or now? Or maybe Josh Dumel.
I don't know. I don't know one of those guys. Hey,
let me look at its live from You know, it
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is a movie. It is a movie. A young woman
with a mysterious past lands in North Carolina, where her
bond with a widower forces to confront a dark secret. Oh,
Josh du Mel, isn't it is? Jodie Foster in too No,
Julianne Huff, Yes, Josh to Mel, isn't it though? How
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cool is that? Psycho and movie? No? I still I
swear to guy that didn't know it. I just said
it sounded like a movie that he would be a
safe haven, Like there's helicopters with that are shooting bullets
and everything, and I, yeah, it's that sounds like a
movie safe haven. You know, back before Ryan Reynolds realized,
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oh I need to just play this smart, alec wise
cracking person in every single movie. I shouldn't just spend
my time. I'm trying to do action movies because it's
not working. It was good and waiting, right, Yeah, it's okay,
it's other movies. He's better and what do you mean? Okay?
It was okay? He was okay? Why wy DoD you
bring up the obscure? Why did you bring up Deadpool
and stuff? He was actually really good and I didn't
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watch Deadpool? What are you crazy? How could you say
that's like me? Said Tom Crude? Top Gun? I never
saw a top gun. I mean, what's a little bit different?
That's his that's his signature movie, is it? I don't know.
Watched a lot of movies my time. Usually a TV
show type of guy. Really every time when you go, hey,
what's trending? Guys? Is it William Parnell? Who's that? That
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was the guy that played the third police officer, Brad
Pitt's partner in seven do like quite often, but different.
Just had a birthday the other day at my My
daughter and I we do birthdays every day. We try
to get you a take turns when we see celebrities
birthday guessing and see we don't guess how old they are.
He's fifty, you just turned fifty? Was your daughter drifting
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as she was reciting this? Yeah, we were actually in
a parking garage and we were tripping from side to
side trying to find a parking spot. We're going up
and back. But speaking of expectorating, because it was a
great segue, so you derailed it, thank you. Uh. Miles
Bridges got tossed from the Hornets Hawks game tonight. Uh.
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He was not happy, ejected from his team's big playing
loss to the Hawks, like was one two, one oh three. Um.
He gets whistled for goaltending calling DeAndre Hunter and immediately
went after the official. He gets too quick, teas called
on him and he's thrown out of the game. Now,
as Miles Bridges is walking out of the arena, he's
getting ready to go through the tunnel, a fan is
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yelling stuff at him, and he turns and throws his
mouthpiece completely misses him, hitting a sixteen year old girl
in the hair. I say, I can't say in the
head because it was a mouthpiece which really doesn't weigh anything,
but it hits her in the hair. Like she's like,
what just happened? To be like, you tell nothing happened. Um,
So he decided to get so mad he throws his
mouth piece, misses the dude who's yelling at him, and
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hits a girl in the hair. And I give Myles
Bridges a lot of credit because right after the game
was over, he put out on Twitter Please, somebody help
me find this girl. I apologize. That's not me. He
apologized for his actions. He got really mad in a
moment and made a bad decision. Luckily, it's not something
that's gonna come back to haunt him, because you know,
he threw his mouth piece in and she could barely
tell what happened. What does it save me with a
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mouth piece? Uh so, look, this is what happened. Sometimes
when you get in the heat of the moment, I
don't know that I have ever gotten to a point
in the game, no matter how upset I am about
losing something that I've wanted to throw a mouthpiece at somebody.
But hey, this is the NBA. Man. Well, well what
else could he have thrown? Nothing? I guess nothing else.
Throw your jersey, I guess, take it off for you
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can throw a shoe, You can throw a sock, because
I want to do take off my shoe and throw
a smelly sock at somebody here hits you in The
part is if if you went to social media, go
see this throw. He misses a guy point blank and
as a guy that was two feet away from him
when he threw that mouthpiece and he missed him. By
a good five feet and then hit the other Look,
he's not a picture. He's not Clayton Kershaw five ft
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away from you. I would not put him in to
try to save Clayton Kershaw is perfect. Yeah. The guy's
yelling like right out and he's got his hands up
in the air like hey look at me, I'm right here.
Eddie completely just throws it right by him. That was
probably the highlight of the night in the NBA. Uh,
well that in Zion's dunk. Zion's dunk was pretty cool. Yeah,
but that was like pre game. That's like NBA jams. Ask.
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But you said that's the night of the NBA. It was.
It's what happened now outside of the NBA. And again,
and props to Miles Bridges for at least going after
this saying hey, I'm sorry. Uh, Derek Carr got paid today.
Raiders quarterback got a three year, hundred and one million
dollar extension from the Las Vegas Raiders. Um, this shows
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you the desperation and what teams will pay for a
quarterback that's gonna give them just above average play, because
that's kind of what Derek Carr is. He's a guy
that's gonna give you just above average play. He's anywhere
between the twelfth and fifteen best quarterback in the NFL. Right,
And I'm not saying, oh, I'm taking him over Trevor Lawrence,
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who's got a great future. No, no, guys that have
actually done stuff in the NFL at best. Derek Carr
is a twelve best quarterback in the NFL. Right, twelve
best quarterbacks don't get forty million dollars a year. I mean,
as as as upset as teams were the Deshaun Watson
guaranteed money, they're more pissed at this because now they're like, oh, man,
Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna want forty million dollars a year,
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right because Jimmy can say, hey, I've been to a
Super Bowl and NFC Championship game. Derek Carr has never
won a playoff game. He hasn't been of the Pro
Bowl in five years. He's just a little bit above average.
He was twenty three touchdowns and fourteen picks this year.
That's not great. Dowser Baker Mayfield numbers. His quarterback rating
is in the middle of the pack. He is a
middle of the pack quarterback, and and and This is
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where the NFL is really gotten out of control, and
that the guys that are just a little bit above
average and now getting forty million dollars a year, that's
not This is a guy that should you want to
extend him for like twenty million, five million, sure, the
going rate for quarterbacks, because you don't really want to
start over. Because so, all right, we're gonna stick with
Derek Carr. He's not a forty million dollar year guy. Man,
He's not. He's not Aaron Rodger's not Tom Brad's not
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any of these guys. He's not even close. He's just
a little bit above. Okay. And when I say a
little bit, I mean a tiny bit, I don't mean
you know, I mean like a tiny like fingernails bit,
a little bit above. Okay. Yes, he threw forty hundred
yards this year to not get the team in the
end zone again, hasn't been a Pro Bowl quarterback in
five years. Uh, and he hits forty million dollars year. Ah.
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NFL teams, this is the contract making them throw up
because they go, my better than my just above average
signal caller. In the next couple of years are gonna say, hey,
I want Derek Carmoney. I'm just as good as him.
I can throw twenty three touchdowns and fourteen picks. Teddy
Bridgewater can throw twenty three touchdowns with fourteen picks. He's
not getting forty million dollars. This is a rerendous contract
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for the Raiders. Arerendous. Well, they're paying a guy that's
been consistently in the lineup. That's the other thing too.
I mean, I know he got hurt a few years
ago against the Indianapolis Colts, but he's thrown for four
thousand yards plus and three straight seasons, almost four thousand
a couple of years ago as well. And he's not
gonna lose games for the Raiders. So it doesn't matter
that you're looking at a contract that he gets right
now and thinking, well, these guys down the road, they're
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gonna want Derek Carr money. Derek Carr is getting Kirk
Cousins money. That's a guy that most people think he's
not a game breaker. He's not gonna win you a
Super Bowl. He might get to the postseason, but he
still got paid handsomely. And that's all Derek Carr is doing.
I mean, the National Football League prides itself in quarterback play,
tackles getting paid, defensive ends getting paid. Those the showcase
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positions in the National Football League. So Derek Carr, for
all that he has done so far, he hasn't been
a guy that doesn't deserve it. He's been in the
lineup weekend and week out for the Las Vegas Raiders
when he was in Oakland. He's not a bad locker
room guy, and he's put up big numbers when he's
been expected to. So, I mean, he looked at his
body of work last year, almost five thousand yards. The
Raiders had no business being in the NFL postseason none,
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And you looked at all the drama that he dealt with,
he survived. He was the sole reason why they got
into the postseason. They almost stole that game at Cincinnati.
I mean, I could understand your position if it's Baker Mayfield.
But Derek Carr is a guy that you can rely
on to win you games, double digit games if you
need to. And he's not a guy that's gonna give
away Again. You mentioned a Teddy Bridgewater that's a liability
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at the quarterback position. Drew Lock is a liability at
the quarterback position. I wouldn't know what we got on
Kyler Murray just yet. Jimmy Garoppolo up and down. Why
wouldn't you pay a guy like Derek Carr? Who else
is out there you'd be willing to give money to?
In the National Football League? Teddy Bridgewater better quarterback rating
than Derek Carr? Okay, last year? Nothing, I'm just saying
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Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr not that far off. One
team went to the postseason, the other one didn't. Kirk
Cousins and Derek Carr. Three out of the last four years,
Kirk Cousins has thrown for thirty touchdowns throws less than
ten interceptions. Of your last year, Kirk Cousins was the
fourth highest rated quarterback in the NFL in postseason in
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primetime games. Okay, fourth highest rated quarterback in the NFL
last year, fourth fourth, Right, you play? Okay, I understand you.
You worry about playoffs and where he's at, But um,
you could do a hell of a lot worse than Kirk.
Kirk Cousins at least is a top ten quarterback in
the NFL. You may like him or not like him.
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The guy's thirty touchdowns in seven or eight picks a year.
He's Matthew Stafford, but he's on a team that hasn't
been able to put it together. What is Kirk Cousins?
What does he not doing? Doesn't win games at the
end of the fourth quarter, Kirk Cousins gives you exactly
what you're paying him for. Thirty touchdowns is a big deal.
Derek Carr has done that once and he hasn't done
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it since. That was three years before I even knew you.
This is this is back when when you were saying, boy,
Brian Greasy maybe the best quarterback we have on our
Broncos Rodcat. I mean, that's the difference you wanted. Oh,
Kirk kirk Cousins and Derek Carr aren't even close. And
Kirk kirk Cousins has done way more and is a
much better quarterback than Derek Carr. I mean, you're you're
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looking at a guy that puts up fat numbers in
an offense, whether it's in Washington or Minnesota, and it's
all empty. I mean you can point to like Alex
Rodriguez in Texas or in Seattle and say this guy's
a Hall of Famer because of what he did there.
But you compare him with Derek Jeter. Who are you taking?
I'm taking Derek Jeter all day over Alex Rodriguez. It's
the same thing with Kirk Cousins. You're telling me you
would take Kirk Cousins on the road in a playoff
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game over Derek Carr. I sure as hell wouldn't. Sure
I would know why because Derek Carr can't show me
he can win a playoff game. Because the guy's not
want a playoff game. I can't give forty million dollars
to a guy that hasn't won. Why do you care?
One years old? Because I'd be a better GM than
half the people in the National Football League because I
know who to give money to and who not to.
If I, hey, Derek Carr's agents on the line, what
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does he want forty million dollars a year? Yeah, tell him,
I'll call him back. We're looking at Kenny Pickett tape.
Let's see what he says about that. Let's see how
much he likes here and that I'm watching Kenny Pickett play. Yeah, no,
I'm not giving him forty million dollars a year. So
what would you pay a guy like Derek Carr? Then
a guy that's been in the fire with you for
his entire career, has not had a poor season, and
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is not a liability. What kind of money would you
give a guy like that, Like he's closer to Baker
Mayfield than he is to Aaron Rodgers. I give him
eight million a year. I get the going rate for
quarterbacks and what that is. I give him that, But
I'm not giving him more than that. I'm not giving
him any more money than I have to because I'm
not giving money to a guy that hasn't proven anything again,
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hasn't won a playoff game, has been a Pro bowler
in five years. But here's forty million dollars, which is
what all the Pro Bowlers and and and top quarterbacks
in the league are getting. Now. Now everybody and their
mother's making the Pro Bowl. That doesn't count that, right,
And he hasn't made it in five years. Everybody has
made it and he hasn't made it in five years. Well,
and it's probably because you know, fan voting. I don't
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know it could an issue there. You're paying for stability,
that's what you're paying for, and that's exactly what Vegas
is getting from him. He's not an erratic guy. It's
not like you're gonna look at him one week and
think Aaron Rodgers and the next week you're gonna think
Cam Newton. He has a stable quarterback and that's what
they bring that position. That the Raiders aren't a bad team.
They have issues at defense, and they have issues with
the health of their offense, especially the offensive line. But
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Derek Car's the one guy that was in the fire
all season long and still came out alive. Uh through
yards once in the last half of the season, one time,
last half of the season, one time, one time. Again,
He's not terrible. I'm saying he's just above average. But
I'm not paying a guy just above average fortyllion dollars. Thankfully,
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it's not your money. Hey, I'm you know what, I'm
glad it's not my team's money. I'm glad that Jets
didn't do it. And I think there's a lot of
teams around like a boy, I'm glad my I didn't
give my quarterback that's just a little bit above average
forty million dollars. Well, I mean, the Jets haven't had
a good quarterback in thirty years. No, no, not listen,
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Hopefully that doesn't scare you like it scares me every time.
Tight shirt, It's still scary. It's still scary. Could be
its own horror movie right there. It's that h so hey,
this is something I'm wondering if this could be the
next great sports movie. Right now, Clayton Kershaw nearly pitches
a perfect game today gets pulled from the game by
the Dodgers in a ridiculous decision that doesn't make any sense.
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Didn't make sense, then doesn't make sense. Now there was
no warning signs of red flag saying hey, let's take
him out of the game. But there was a bigger
thing in this game that I want to get to
for a second. That is Trade Turner stole a base?
What does that mean? That means thanks to a mp
M and the app and approach they have going on
to get a free hot dog from a mp M.
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All right, now, you throw this on top of the
three stolen bases the Dodgers ad yesterday, and suddenly you're
in it. Now, man, you've got Trade Turner for all
whole year. He's gonna steal some basses. Uh. You could
wind up getting a lot of free hot dogs. So
I ask you, David Gascon, could this be the next
great sports will be like one of those Morgan Spurlock
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documentaries where you know, you document a guy who from
the beginning of the season, every time the Dodgers steal
a base, he goes into a mp M, he eats
a hot dog, and it's about his life and how
he feels all the way through, kind of like it
was Supersize me. Is that a movie? Could that be?
Because you gotta we gotta remember now, over the course
of the season, the Dodgers may steal with a whole
season at trade Turner, I don't know ninety bases just
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so so you're talking about a you know, an AMPM
hot dog every other day, and sometimes you're talking about
multiple hot dogs a day. They had three stolen bases yesterday,
you're talking about three AMPM hot dogs. But man, I
feel like we kind of missed the boat on this. Like,
if you're gonna capitalize on a on an opportunity, shouldn't
we have gotten that with beast Mode and Marshawn Lynch
and Skittles. Yeah, but this is yeah, I yeah, but
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this is an actual thing though, Yeah, yeah, this is
an actual preay. You know, steal a base, got a
hot dog, steel BaseT. That's a thing. Now does it
have to be a hot dog? Can you go nachos?
Can you That's that's the thing? Steel a base got
a hot dog. Dont don't make the rules dog. I
feel like it is appropriate, especially here in Los Angeles,
you have different things that you can give away. What
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do they do? Used to do tacos. It's at at
old school Staples for Laker games. And you do hot
dogs for for trade turner. But no, it's not just
for trade turner. It's for anybody stealing a baby. But
that's the thing is that you know tacos. You know,
it's you're at a game and you really have to
have something big. You know, you gotta have a really
good performance defensively to get this is like, hey, stolen
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base fab but anytime you've got mookie bets, you got
bell and bases. Yeah, I mean this is something where
you got hot dog every day. I feel like we
get one, but I feel like we get cheated here
in California, at least Southern California with something like that.
Maybe not a hot dog. Why don't we go Mexican food?
Why don't we go a carneusta burrita? Because we have
Taco Tuesday? What we do we can do that, that's
a good call, but we already have Taco Tuesday. This
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is something different this is hot dog when the Dodgers
deal a base, I know, but hot dogs here in
southern California. That not the same hot dogs you'd get
like in New York or Chicago. Right well, I mean
that's because AMPM is a sponsor. That's that's kind of
you know, that's kind of how it is. So that's
what you want, But do you want it? We're not
only are fans getting it, but then trade Turner has
to load up on hot dogs. You can see everybody,
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everybody who actually steals a base also has to eat
a hot dog. Yes, I like that. That's great. So
you can just see them getting fatter as the season
goes along, for what sixty two? Right, Hey, I'll come
into steal bases anymore. The hot dogs. Man, Come on,
you don't think these guys are eating all kinds of
crazy as Dodger dogs every night at home anyway? Of
course they are. That's exactly what they're doing, right. There's
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no Bartilo cologne on the Dodgers roster unfortunately, so no
Brad Penny either, by the way, So yeah, you know,
and when when in those rare games Dodger down eight
to one, I don't want to see some oh second
base on fielders indifference. No, you give him the stolen
base on that dog. Twelve one. They're still stealing bags
from a hot dig the next day. Great, I need
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my fix. What do you need a hot dog tomorrow?
That's what I need. So this is a movie now,
I think, I think this is a movie. So who
plays the lead? Well, I do because it's my thing.
I'm eating the hot dog everything. I shouldn't be there
to film it going. If something happens you, Jack got
to get you to the hospital. That's great. And at
the close of the end of the regular season, you
make Justin Frostberg eat a hot dog. You shove it
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down his throat too, just because he doesn't eat it.
We can make this happen, all right, I think if
you can guarante Call of the Month, Jason Smith, I'm down.
My buddy Ben Mallin is coming ups.