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Well NBA playoffs tonight looked at the the whole three
games a night thing is just a beautiful, beautiful down
the middle of three games every night. It's great. Right now,
a one point game, just under four minutes left to
go on the fourth quarter, Timberwolves lead the Grizzlies. Meanwhile,
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another series is done. The Heat hold on to beat
the Hawks seven nine four to win their first round
series four games to one. The two big takeaways from
this number one Uh, you gotta start taking the heat seriously,
right they've been a number one seed that it's been Yeah,
but what about the Celtics, Yeah? But what about the Bucks? Yeah?
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But uh they knock out the Hawks. They did not
have Jimmy Butler. Tonight, Victor Oladipo, Hey reminds everybody, Hi,
was it All Star once? Uh twenty three points tonight?
You got it's time to take the heat extremely seriously.
Tyler hero has sixteen points off the bench. And for
the Hawks, man, I feel like they're reliving the nineteen
eighties right like, you know, if you're not, those who
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don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I
feel like this is this is Dominique Wilkins with the Hawks,
and what a hot human the human highlight reel. And
he scores a lot and he's so exciting. And while
they have a couple of nice pieces around him, they
don't nearly have enough to make a big time serious run.
You know they didn't. They didn't get better off the
last year. Look, they beat the Knicks in the first
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round of the playoffs last y. Oh, by the way,
the Knicks still have more playoff wins in the nets
the last couple of years. Um. But I feel like
the Hawks are kind of repeating the eighties where it
was Hey but Dominique and Spud Webb and Kevin Willis
and Doc Rivers and I don't know and they were
always much more fun than they were. This is how
good they are on the floor. But Wilkins was great.
He was so much fun to watch. I feel like
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that's with the Hawks were why and and look, Trey
Young had a horrible night tonight, and it's why the
Hawks are going home. But I kind of look at
Hawks ago, that's kind of the same team as it
was thirty years ago. It's kind of the same thing. Yeah,
we just advanced. I mean, going back to timelines and stuff.
DeAndre Hunter has himself a game where he almost triples
his season average, okay, not quite, thirteen point four all
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the way up to thirty five on eleven, shooting almost
perfect from the line with ten of eleven and eleven boards.
But when Young is only gonna take twelve shots? Because right,
that's the that's the narrative right now across the NBA
playoffs is aren't you the guy that's supposed to take over?
How do you only have X number of shots? Right?
Because that's one of the big questions with James Hardens,
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like why is he so passive? Why is he disappearing?
Kevin Durant before they went quietly into the good Night
with the nets. You saw his shot total as Jayson
Tatum clamped down get worse and worse, uh and lower
and lower. Uh. And here Trey Young was awful over
five from three point range. Watching the final minute of
this game. That's the beauty of, as you say, the
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three games in a night. We got split screen action, right.
I got my my iPad up against my TV and
I'm watching and going back and forth. I feel like
I'm gonna need a massage from my neck after this
is done. Maybe you know, pull out the farragon and
get to work. But with with Trey Young. Then in
a possession with about a half a minute left, he's
thirty feet away from the basket, and he picks up
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his dribble, like what are we doing? Like we're going
back and the fundamentals are are going out the window
again in a situation where you're supposed to be the
take charge guy. Forty one minutes seven and nine from
the file line. But again, oh of five from three,
just two of twelve shooting and down the stretch. Didn't
really seem like he wanted the ball in his hands,
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and you saw a big effort from the heat. You know,
it's funny you say that because it's very easy to
understand why guys are passive, right, like about why why
why guys aren't into the game mentally? That's all it is.
It's very simple. It's called lamar Odom syndrome. When how
can you get that invisible when you're not into the
game mentally? That's what happens, right, because if if if
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he was into the game, Like there's a difference between
Trey Young going like four for three. Hey, you know what,
he tried. He's the star. He was just a bad
night for him, man, you know, but he but he
shoots twenty three times whenn't you're two for twelve from
the floor, Um, were you really in the game? Were
you really in the game mentally? It's not like you
can't get shots. There's no defense in the NBA that
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can be created that can stop stars from getting shots.
There's none. There's defenses that stop stars from having big games,
but there's no defense that stops stars from getting their shots.
And try to say that five times fast. There's no one.
So I watch this and I see James Harden, I
see someone who you're detached from the game mentally, and
Trey Young is detached from the game mentally and guys
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that playing. Look, Trey Young plays very emotionally, and sometimes
it happens when you just have a game like that
where you convince yourself, Ah, this is just not my night,
this is not working my way. No, dude, this is
where Yeah, I'm sorry, you're two for twelve, but you
gotta be two for twenty. You gotta two for twenty five.
You got you gotta be able to try to keep
taking these shots. Right. This about being confidence, It's easy.
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This is the end. This is the end of your season.
So going out with twelve shots, it's Hey, you're feeling okay?
Because the first questions in his post are gonna be
where you were you hurt? Where you're not feeling right?
What what's going on here? No, and that's exactly why
you see teams go home? Why did the Nets go
home last night? Kevin Durantis and the win? Was he
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really mentally in it? I mean, the guy had a
big night, Buddy. Miss is a free throw and he
too defensive indifference plays where the runner goes to second basement,
we're paying attention really defensive in different plays where he
allowed out Boston to get offensive rebounds and a big
oop to kind of clinch the game. Now, guy that
that's what his guys are not mentally in the game,
and that's inexcusable. It's inexcusable for Trey Young to be
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two for twelve. It's an excuse for James Harden to
take to take eleven shots in the game. Can't have that,
you just absolutely can't have it. And that's a game
that falls straight on the shoulders of the star, and
you wonder, does this star have what it takes to
be a next level guy? Or is Trey Young just
a player that's going to put up a lot of points,
a lot of highlights, is gonna be very fun. But
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we can't really take him seriously in the playoffs because
there's games like this where when you're backs to the
wall and this is the night you have, right, I
mean it's really I mean, this, this is it. This
is a this is on Trey Young game. This is
not on anybody else. This is on Trey Young because
they lose by three on a night where you take
two more shots and maybe you win by two. That's
kind of what it is. This is when I put
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it on the superstars, like last night's game with the Sixers.
I put that on James Harden because those of the game,
these are the inexcusable games. I'm never gonna rip a
guy if he's you know, four for five or five. Look,
he tried, right, John Rans not having a big night tonight,
but you know what, he just took and made a
big three to give the Grizzlies the lead with forty
five seconds left to go. This has not been John
Rand's night, but it doesn't mean right. But I'm still
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taking that shot, right, I'm still taking that shot, right,
John Ran. The Grizzlies just missed, missed the three, and
the ball comes out to him outside the ark and
instead of I'm taking it back and a reset the
shot clock, Nope, I'm open. I'm taking the three stars
who want the shots will always take the shots, even
on a night where it's not going his way. There
was no fear. There was no I'm not going to
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the hoop with it. There is I'm gonna take these shots.
He's got more of a killer instinct than Lebron James
does at the end of games. Think about it, how
many times have we seen Lebron at the end of
games sometimes he takes the game winning shot. Sometimes he
wants to dribble around under the hoop and make a
pass because he wants to make quote the correct play,
when the correct play is you taking a shot because
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you're Lebron James. Right, He's he's more dangerous at the
end of games because of that. He's a better finisher.
He's a guy want the ball in his end at
the end of the game all the time. John Morant
is just that good. It's every day he grows by
leaps and bounds. He's I again, I'd rather him have
the ball at the end of games and Lebron James.
So now, when you examine Trey Young and James Harden
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compared to guys like John Morant, clearly they're not the same.
Right again, this is a night It is on Trey Young.
Everything tonight was on Trey Young because more shots, more
into the game, that's you need from your start. Believe me,
Miami was more than happy to allow Tray. This is
what you want, this is what you're gonna do. Okay, great,
this is on tre Young. Yeah, go back to DeAndre
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Hunter has himself a big game. He steps up where
you saw Young step back we we talked about the
the nets. I think you do have to look at
it on a larger scope of if you actually had
a coach that might have gotten you one or two
possessions of a game. That's one of the great questions
we always ask in the NFL. I don't know that
we do it in the NBA as much of how
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much a coach actually matters in terms of points, UH
and possessions, etcetera. But a lot of close losses in
in that four game sweep for all of the uh,
the handwringing and anger that flows through the other just
to circle all the way back to the starting point
with the Heat. You know, Oladipo only played eight games
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this year. He only played four games with the Heat
last year and just twenty with Houston nine with with Indiana.
So finding it like if this is the guy that
now is going to be ready, because you know, he
joked with reporters the other day with the big hugs,
with Jimmy Butler and whatever else when they said they
can't be on the court and uh taking some shots
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because everybody's now it's open season. I'm commentators. If you
have a morning show, radio show, TV, show, because look
a lot of guys are just saying a lot of
stupid things. May make it up, timelines, changing guys, ages,
whatever you're doing, haven't had it. Victor Oladipo gave notice. Hey,
you know what, I could still be that guy. I
don't have to do it every night, but on this squad,
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I rose up and we're advancing. Kobe would have taken
like fifty shots in the game. I'm I'm taking fit.
I'm the star, I'm the guy. I'm gonna take fifty shots. Yeah.
You think differently about stars and you see them in
a different light when they have games like this and
closeout games where yeah, I just didn't even show up.
Not I'm showing up playing bad. No, I'm just not
even showing up, right, That's what it is. Be sure
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A night where Trey Young had where mentally he wasn't
into the game. We Trey Young can't take twelve shots, right,
But that's been a big uh through line this playoffs.
The star is not taking enough shots, and all that
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is is you're not mentally engaged in the game. That's
your fault. It's on you. Great players don't have that happen.
Great players still take a lot of shots. I'm never
gonna bash a star if he has a bad night shooting.
If you have my normal workload, I'm shooting twenty five
times what I'm doing. You're a star, You're supposed to
take those shots. Right. Uh. We saw that with Hardened
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last night. Joel emb today said we need to have
more aggressiveness out of James Harden. All right, Clearly, we've
seen it throughout the entire year with Kyrie Irving. Where
was Kyrie Irving until the final two minutes last night?
He h's a three in a lay up? Dude, where
were you from the previous forty minutes? Right? He plays
whatever he feels like it. And then you look at
John Moran tonight. And this is why John Morand is next.
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This is why he is the next superstar in the NBA.
That all the other guys are all pretenders. As much
as I love Donovan Mitchell, as much as I love
Devin Booker, all these guys, John Morant is it. John
Morant just has that it factor and he's got that
killer mentality that it doesn't matter what kind of game
I am having, I'm gonna take shots to win this game.
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He had a horrendous night, right He finished the night
nine out of twenty two shooting. Right now, he still
still at a big you know, thirteen rebounds, nine says
three steals. Look, the guy is a great player, but
you don't win games unless John Moran shoots and makes
big shots. This was not his night. But what happened
in the final minute of this game, As we told you,
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he hits a big three with nobody on him early
in the shot clock. I'm still gonna take and make
this shot because I'm that good and I know I
can make it. And what happens there? He ties the
game great. Then he gets the free throw line, makes
a couple of free throws to give the Grizzlies the lead. Right,
Anthony Edwards makes a big three with four seconds left,
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and it's oh my god, look at this shot for shot,
Morant makes the three, hits free throws, Edwards makes the three,
and then what does John Moran do With three and
a half seconds left to go? The inbounds goes to Morant,
and Morant dribbles all the way to the hoop and
goes in for a lefty layup with one second left
to go. One eleven, one o nine is your final
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Grizzlies win. And here's what it sounded like. Brooks bound
across the floor and across from the Wolves bench from
us left all right on the radio dial, Anderson breaks
through Brooks the end bound for Moran. He gets by
Edwards and at banner boat skiss with one second remaining,
the Wolves have to play on no timeouts banner boat
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for Towns from three quarter quart. Grizzlies are up three
games to two. I want to move by John Morant
at the prezzer to win it for the grizz Tonight,
Grizzlies Radio Network on the call. You can have all
those other guys, man, you can have all those other guys.
Give me John Moran, all the young stars. When I'm
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talking about John Moran is just different. He's better, he's
a killer, and he's he's only been to the league
a couple of years. I mean this is you see
other guys like Mitchell and Booker who have been around
a while getting big deals. Hey, they're great players. Uh,
this guy's this guy's a baby, and look at how
good he is. All right, Memphis just has to find
a way to keep him for the rest of his
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career and not let him go someplace like the Knicks.
You know he may want to go to. You'd never know.
But you can have all those guys, man, gimme John Moran,
you can have all those other guys. He he is
just different, you know. Donovan Mitchell and Jayson Tatum are
two guys I have a lot of of of love
for because I love their game and I see mentally
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where they're at, and they want to kill you every time,
like they have that Donovan Mitchell the last few nights,
though clearly he wants out. Jayson Tatum sometimes has, you know,
has these off nights, but Morant just doesn't. I mean,
the guy is an absolute killer. And and if Mitchell
I thought might have been the closest thing to Kobe Bryant,
that's not even close. Now. John Morant is clearly the
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closest thing to Kobe, closest into a combination of Kobe
and Jordan's with the talent that he has and the
desire to want the ball and to finish games. He
is above he is in that league above everybody else,
and his talent is not even all the way there yet.
I mean he's still just it's not quite scratching the
surface because the guys, you know, the guy's almost a
finished product. But you know, in a couple of years
he will be the player that it will be reaching
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his potential. He's maybe at right now of where he's
gonna wind up being. Give me John Moran. He is
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to be able to answer questions and inform the entire
world about big stories in baseball? I am ready to
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pass the test, and I think the question is what
is the most important story in baseball right now at
this moment? And my understanding is is that in St.
Louis they're currently sorting out all of these hit by pitches.
Pete Alonso was scary mobile with the pitch that they
caught him in the head. So the Mets, I think,
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showed their resiliency, their resolved, their composure to hang out
and win for a second straight night in St. Louis
and continue to be Jason the first place team in
the National League East. Well, because well he kind of
took the wind out of my sales from my question.
My question was going to be who has the most
wins in Major League Baseball? And the answer is so,
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so here we go, the most wins in Major League
Baseball do belong to the Mets, but interestingly, on percentage points,
the best record at the moment, I believe still belongs
to the Dodgers now they've played fewer games. I have
to get into the the hundredth place, in the thousandth
place of this, but I believe that it's quite close
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Mets Dodgers in terms of winning percentage. Yeah, it's pretty good.
You're at the top, yeah, yeah, And you're at the
top and I'm at the I might be mine is
the worst team in baseball right now? What is happening
with the White Sox, Mike? What has happened? Obviously, nobody
took any fielding drills for six or seven months, so
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defensively they've been a business. Fielding is the biggest surprise
right now. And obviously Tim Anderson, who certainly has been
one of the better defenders in the game for a
number of years. As now, what eight errors already, So
certainly a very concerning situation there for the Chicago White Sox,
plus the injuries, plus Tony Larusa and the fact that
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Garcia has been hitting third the number of games, which
just defies logic on so many levels. But it's early,
j P. It's early early, It is early, And I
will say this the American League Central I believe I
looked at this earlier today the first place team had
eight losses and everybody else has nine. So this is
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the party is going to stay together from now until
the end of the season. Now, I'm gonna hit you
with a statue a p before you get to this
big Yankee story. Uh. And you know, look, you know,
stats kind of come and go, but certain ones just
sticking your head. Uh. The Mets, you mentioned getting hit
by pitches all the time. Alonso got hit in the
head again tonight. They have been hit eighteen times in
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nineteen games, by far the most in Major League Baseball.
The record for most hit by pitches a team in
a season was set by the Baltimore Orioles. They were
hit a hundred and sixty times in a season in eighteen.
William McKinley was president when the Orioles set this record,
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and the are on paste to get right. And I
think basically, if you were to go back and compare
the baseball that's being played with nowata back then, I
think that that one would look a lot like a
blooper ball, which which Mike and I know well from
Midwest softball playing traditions. A blooper ball. If everybody wants
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to look it up, it's it's it's a softer ball, right,
and so's it's not doesn't add that same kind of
a sting to it as the as the current ball does.
And I think the point was made very well tonight
on on the TBS broadcast about just how velocity has
been has been valued so much by teams that they're
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really just the focus is on velocity, velocity, velocity, and
not so much on command. And so when you're being
trained to throw as hard as possible and not to locate,
what happens is pitches that are thrown as hard as
they possibly can be throw own. That's what you're seeing
at the major league level, and pitchers don't know where
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it's going all the time. And that's a pretty scary
concept when you consider pitchers are now up in the
upper nineties and often to the triple digits. I did
you kind of getting the sixteen inch clincher softball conversation
in here? Actually? Where's where in the sixteen inch Softball
Hall of Fame is up? Which suburb is it in?
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It's yeah, I believe that is correct. I haven't park
Forrest Park, Forest Park, Illinois or the outside of town anyway,
So go ahead, sorry, you're all right. Well, so I
was just gonna, you know, segue it into uh, well,
it's because if you have technology in place, it looks
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like the clincher's coming up there. Sometimes going back to
fifteen and sixteen, Uh, the letter they tried to suppress,
and that Cashman has just referred to being uh well,
being cheated out of so much. Now the Yankees added
to the list. Not that this really is revelatory in
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in in a larger scale in terms of what we
know about teams or at least naming them JP, but
for for rob Manford and for Major League Baseball. Uh,
it just goes down as another paragraph of you know,
here's another couple of years where you tried to try
to hide it and all comes out in the wash, right,
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And I think that you use the proper term there,
which is paragraph. This is not a This is not
like a ten part docuseries. Uh, this is not something
that I believe um affixes any asterisks. Not that the
Yankees won the World Series in those here is because
they didn't. But this is not a a fundamentally altering
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piece of Yankee history because various parts of this story
we're already known, the Red Sox parts of the story
we're own. The Astros, of course we understand, but this
is the Yankees. I just want I want to say
it's very clearly what came out today on that letter
is not at all the same the same universe as
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what the Astros were doing. It's just it's just not
And and if we think that with all the scrutiny
on these teams because they're the Red Sox and Yankees,
because the Astros won the World Series, if we think
that these are the only three teams that were doing
varying levels, and again the Astros were on the most
egregious side, and the Red Sox and Yankees. I'm not
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going to say that it was benign, because it wasn't.
But I think there were probably other teams who were
trying or endeavoring to do similar things around this time,
which was notably before the Commissioner came out and clarified
exactly what you can and cannot do. And why the
Astros were penalized so severely was because of the nature
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of the scheme, the real time nature of the scheme,
and and the fact that it came out long after
and was perpetuated long after there had been a declaration
of exactly what the rules were and what was expected.
So I think this was, uh, it was notable. To
your point, it was not revelatory. Most of this information
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has been out there for years, and aside from I'm
sure we we'll hear back and forth over a couple
of beers at the Cask and Flagon at and lands
Down Street in any number of places in New York
between Red Sox and Yankee fans. Hey, you know, you
guys cheated. No, you guys cheated like that. That'll probably happen,
and that's all accurate. But this does not transform the
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way I feel about anybody involved with the Yankees during
that era. MLB insider John Paul Morossi with us here
has got a big interview with Aaron Boone coming up
the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon and live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, so away from this,
help me with something here, JP, because I feel like
this was an overcorrection and there's something deeper to the story.
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All Right. We watched Clayton Kershaw get taken out of
a game where He's throwing a perfect game eighty pitches
against the Minnesota Twins, and it really didn't make sense.
And the Dodgers all said the right things after the game,
and Clayton Kursor said, well, the longest time I've been
out there, and Dave Roberts said, oh, he hasn't thrown
that many pitches. There was a lot of remorse after.
You could tell Clayton Kershaw the next day was, oh
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my god, I came out of a perfect bleep in game.
Twenty three people have done this in the history of
the game, and I'd only thrown eighty pitches. Walker Bueller
last night gets to stay in the game for the
Dodgers at night pitches going into the ninth inning of
a four nothing game. Now you can tell me Kershaw
has had a bigger injury history and Bueller is six
years younger. But none of that makes sense. Why Why
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does Bueller stay in the game at pitches just to
give him a complete game. I feel like this was
the Dodgers needing to do this, either for an overcorrection
or to get the players back on the side. Because
I look at this and I say something like, I
wonder how pissed the players were, man, you just let
whatever call come from above it. You took Clayton out
of a perfect game, and we need to we need
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to keep everybody on the same page. So hey, here's
a first chance to leave a picture in for something
that's pretty cool. We're gonna do that for Walker Bueller.
I I love you, my friend, but I disagree. I
I really don't think there's much of a connection between
the two things. I really don't here. And here's one
of the key reasons why. Context on all of this matters. Yes,
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the two things that you referenced, Kershaw's injury history and
Ueler being younger, Both of those things are relevant. The
other piece is, remember what's happening now days away. Uh,
and it's not happening to the same extent, but uh,
the the picture limit and now having to conserve your bullpen.
Every individual choice has to be made with the context
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of who are you going to be bringing in, what
is the state of your bullpen? And obviously now the
Dodgers know that the active roster is gonna go from
twenty and you have to now start to get more
length out of your starting pitchers. As a result of that,
I also think It's important to point out Kershaw had
basically said in the dugout prior to being removed from
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the Perfect Game that he had one more inning left,
which was the last thing that he pitched, and then
he was done. He Kershaw and himself basically said that
he was at the end of what he was able
to give on that particular day because he had been
so late just getting going picking the ball up. So
I understand how it looks outwardly, and I fully understand
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your your perspective and respect it. But I really don't
think that there was a mutiny in the clubhouse or
any sort of uh negative reaction. I just think that
everybody realizes that we are in very unique times, uh. Kershaw,
especially given all that he's been through with respect to
the injuries and just how many innings he's thrown and
having the unique spring training, I think, has made a
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lot of decisions different this April than almost any other
April in the game history. Yeah, but that conspiracy theory
sounds better. JP. It was fun, It was fun to
hear it, felt it felt good rolling off the lips.
But I just gotta tell you, it doesn't It doesn't
make sense. It doesn't. Why is he in the game.
It's four nothing, it's that special for him to get
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a complete game. But Clayton kerrshat no, no, no perfect game.
We gotta keep well. The other thing is, i'd i'd
have to think about that weekend. It was. I mean
that that was a a tough weekend against the pod Race.
Obviously some close games Kimberland pitched. I mean, I I
think you have to you have to take the overall
context of your of your bullpen and usage in mind. Plus,
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Bueller reminds me a little bit of Verlander, and Verlander
was always this is you know, sort of Leland's uh philosophy,
allot of That's what I mean. Like Verlander was good
between pitches one like one twenty depending on how how
the how he was feeling on a particular day. So
I would really say in this case that Bueller does
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remind me of that that ace that horse to to
get him deeper into game. So he's just he's in
a fundamentally different place in his career than Crush that much.
I know. He's on Twitter at John MORROSSI that is
at John MORROSSI. Uh, he has a half hour show
airing on MLB Network tomorrow night on Buck Show Walter
two Manager of the Year. Uh, make sure what what
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time is that show on JP? Uh? So it's on
whenever I can whatever I can get the airtime. Also, notably,
it is not airing between twelve and four on Saturday
afternoon because that is when the sixteen inch offt Hall
of Fame is open. Every horse Park, Illinois only twelve
to four only on Saturday. Be road trip baby, Let's
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go horse Park Baby. I love it JP doing interviews
and and and and creeping up on the Google machine
at the same time. As always funny, appreciated my friend.
We'll talk to my pleasure. Guys. Always loved the conversation.
Thanks so much,