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A large night for us here on the show tonight,
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Sin's a start of COVID, Me, Mike, ty Shirt, Frostburg,
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you don't mention him, he's gonna get in headache. Got by.
You and I have done shows together. We were at
the Super Bowl together. We've seen ty Shirt. You can't
went to the movies with us last week, but you
haven't seen Frostburg in a while. No, virtually a few times.
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It's been awesome, it's good, and it's been it's don't
fight yet, no fist. Yeah, well well we gotta say yeah,
we're just beginning the second half of the show's only
half time. He wants to fight somebody because the doctors
are gonna lose the half times. The Pirates. You can't
beat the Pirates. Everything was fine until you came back
to work. They were around in Octobervie. It really is
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incredible sometimes the way these things turn out, right, Like
you go and your world beaters against all the best
teams that just up. Now. Man, we'll see this weekend
obviously a four game set Dodgers, and next you're excited. Dude,
you can't beat the Pirates. You don't want the medic
You don't want this smoke. Man, there's so much smoke
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around you right now. You don't want it. You don't
want any of this smoke. You got Pirates smoke. It's
not even it's just like it's just like a little
bit of haze with the Pirates. They don't even have smoke.
They just have a little bit of fog. That's what
it is. It's more of that. If they have they
have no smoke. Mets have all kinds of smoke, Like
we got smoke like we got smoke, got like like
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flying out of our fingers, made fire. Oh you don't
want the Mets smoker U before we get to the
NBA Finals. For a second, this story in it's about
twenty minutes old, and I don't know. Maybe maybe Darvin
Ham won't be the head coach of the Lakers for
much longer because, according to reports Agan Wowski of ESPN,
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Lebron James has been named head coach that according to Woades,
Quinn Snyder's future with the Jazz is unclear and the
possibility exists he could end his tenure with the team now.
Right now. The Jazz have an offer to extend his
current contract, which has two years left on it, but
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maybe Quinn Snyder wants to end this and move on now.
There's been no talk about what his future plans might be.
But this would be in Quinn Snyder's court to say
I'm done coaching because he's got two more years left
on his deal. The Jazz say, hey, look, we love
you back on on on your with a new deal.
We'd love you back on on the deal you have
right now, and Quinn Snyder apparently is gone. I don't know, man, Uh,
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I don't know. Another year of Mitcheland Gobert that wasn't
really fun, man, I don't know about that. I'm gonna
wait out the Knicks. I'm gonna wait to take over
for TIBs. I'll tell you this, you know. And and
look we all we had age, right. And one of
the things you'll always see is photos of someone during
their presidential terms. Right. Here's how they looked on inauguration day.
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Here's how they look as the next president is inauguration.
Quinn Snyder's got some of that in his photo array.
In terms of his time there in Utah. Yeah, right
to where there's there's been many a stressful moment, I
think would be the way to say it. And obviously
all the reports of guys not getting along in the
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locker room that that'll wear on a coach. Whenever I
see a story like this, a coach is ready to
walk away. It's always one of two things, right, It's
either he's getting pushed out or superstars decided they don't
like anymore, or he wants his next gig. And there's
been nothing to say that this is Quinn Snyder's fault,
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like everything has been I don't know if Mitchell and
Gobert can can stay together, maybe one of them has
to go, and maybe one of them will go in
the off season because we're getting there, and but there's
been nothing about oh Snyder's and danger Snyder's in trouble.
So this tells me if Snyder is thinking about getting out,
he's got his next destination all set up, and it's
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it's not the Lakers obviously has already hired Darwin Hand.
A couple of days ago, there were the reports that
he wasn't interested in the gig, real or imagined, because
obviously that's also something your agent's gonna put out when
you know you're not getting a job. Hey, he wasn't
interested in that job anyway, How do you want to
go out with you? Anyway? We didn't offer you. I'm
saying no, I didn't ask I'm still saying no. We're
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looking at me like you're gonna ask me out, So
I know I'm wondering if this is Quinn Snyder has
his next gig all lined up, saying Okay, now I
gotta find my way town and this could be something
where I leave and I go someplace else right away,
or I leave and then next year on someplace. Maybe
he wants to go back to, you know, coaching college somewhere,
maybe they have a gig there. But but this doesn't happen, hey,
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unless you feel like you're being pushed out or you
want to go. And since there's been absolutely nothing about
him being pushed out, I bet your Quinn Snyder's got
something else lined up. Got a curiosity though. Right there
we're on the cusp of the NBA Finals. We'll get
into that momentarily. But Darvin Hamm gets the job on
a Friday. There's a promo running with Dan Patrick where
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you just see why had a late Friday afternoon. Well,
I mean because we talked about it, you know, as
the news broke and we got on air Friday and
break it down directly. It seemed from everything we'd heard
that that was Lebron James guy that he wanted. Okay,
So even if Jeanie had protested that Clutch Sports and
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Lebron didn't have skin in that side of the game, Yeah,
we all knew that to be a lie. Uh, it's
just a question of degree. But now you've you've made
your choice and you got that in and it's hasn't
been met with wild applause or with derision. It's kind
of a huh interesting, or at least that seems to
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be after two hours. How I've read the reaction to it.
Nobody's really excited or angry about It's like, it's an
interesting choice with Quinn Snyder, a guy that you've been
waiting to have that breakthrough moment and a couple of
times and you tak it looked like it was going
to Now I'd be curious, right, is it your guy
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in New York? Where? What what team is out there
that would be the apple of his eye if he
were actually looking to make a move. Well, it's not
the Knicks. I mean it's not. You would think it
would have been. You'd think it would have been the Lakers.
But as you said, according to sources, you know, he
wasn't really a fit for the job. And if the
Lakers wanted them, they would have been able to get him,
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right because if he's trying to get out of this
deal now, they would have found a way to get him.
They could give up that first round. Yeah, No, I'm wondering,
is Zion. Yeah, the Frostburg getting his Zion. He's starting
to be like Bob Gara, all right, and the future Laker.
That's why I'm wondering if he's gonna go coach in college.
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That's some of if he's got a if he's got
a high profile college gig, he's done with the pros,
he's done with the drama of Donovan Mitchell and Rudy
Gobert and all this stuff. And I've done eight years
here and he's young enough to go and have a
legacy someplace. I wonder if he's got a big college
job lined up somewhere, that would be an interesting uh
switch to go back out. Maybe you want more control,
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Maybe you decide, hey, there there's parts about the NBA
game that have just worn on me enough. But I
don't need it. I'd rather go back and deal with
n I L nonsense. I mean, I think deal with
stars fighting. I think you go back and forth. The
college coaches go, oh my god, this n I L.
I wish I could just coach in the NBA, or
I just have to worry about coaching. And then he
coached the NBA and go, oh man, I wish you
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have to coach these guys that worry about their egos.
And I wish I could just coach kids in college
and it's hey, you know what, there's That's why there's
gonna be all these jobs out there. Man, there's gonna
be problems. You're gonna have it not if it was easy,
everybody would do it. Everybody would be an NBA or
a college basketball I think with the college basketball side
of things is, look, this is where your relationship with
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the head of the university, with the deans of each
part of the school, this is where it all comes together.
All right, We've got to build a coalition, right, that's
the word, and operative and all these different things that
you've got to have a strong base of your alumni
that get together and hire quickly to get that under wraps.
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So you've got to deal with it less. And that
would be the curiosity, you know, of any choice Quinn
Snyder now makes, is you know or is he going?
And would you be looking to go to a situation
whereby those things are already in place, right because some
schools have mobilized better to take a first mover advantage
than others. And that that would be the big advice
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to anybody looking to get into the college coaching game
is You've got to make sure that that infrastructure gets built,
because then not only do you get your plausible deniability
and your your buffers put in there, but also the
hands on stuff. You just said, go to that office.
I'm not dealing with this. I coach basketball, Twitter and
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NBA Finals go, we're getting set. You know, we have
two more nights, so where we're getting there, we're getting there. Um.
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It's kind of I don't want to say anticlimactic, because
nothing we do is anticlimactic. But what kind of tipped
our hand as to who we were going to pick
in the NBA Finals depending on how the Eastern Conference
Finals went? Right? I told you last week, if the
Heat beat the Celtics, I was picking Golden State, And
if the Celtics beat the Heat, I was picking the Celtics.
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So yeah, officially, I'm gonna pick the Celtics. I'm taking
the Celtics in six. The youth of the Celtics and
their defensive prowess is going to make the Warriors look old.
Is it gonna happen overnight. No, it will happen over
the course of the series. But defensively, the Celtics have
all the kryptonite for the Warriors, right, we've seen you've
seen all the metrics of what happened. Is when Marcus
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Smart guard Steph Curry, it doesn't go well. Uh. The
the Warriors are gonna have to find their way and
Steve Kerr's got to coach his ass off to try
to figure out a way to free up his shooters
in this series against the Celtics. And I don't see
it happening where Boston runs around too much. Uh, victims
of the moment, Right, They've played in big games. They
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were able to weather storms. Just they're such a bad
matchup for Golden State because of what they can do defensively.
It's gonna make it hard because we've seen the Warriors
look less than than elite offensively when they play against
a good defensive team. Memphis a really good defensive team.
I'm they were missing their best player in John Moran,
but it still gave them problems. And Clay didn't shoot
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well and and Steph didn't shoot well. So that's kind
of how I see this happening here. The key to
the series for me is Marcus Smart, not Jason. He
thought it's gonna Jason Tatum, but ah uh, Marcus Smart.
As long as he is healthy, He's the guy that
is going to win or lose the series for shutting
down Steph Curry and contributing enough offensively, because he can't
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have an offensive series where he you know, he's fifteen
points one night and four points the next, Like, he's
gotta have a pretty solid series offensively. Doesn't need to
be the guy leading the team and scoring. He can
be the three guy behind Tatum and Brown, but he's
got to be able to contribute. He can't be great
one night and then just not even there offensively the next.
So he's got a lot on his plate. Now. The
good news is you have a lot of days off
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between games, so he can rest. But defensively, offensively, he's
the key to the series. I'm picking him to shut
Steph Curry down enough and the Celtics win in six.
I dig the cut of your Jim. Look, I picked
the Celtics to make the run back in January, So
I stay with him now right right the hot hand,
and here we go. So we're looking at the defensive
prowess of Smart, the activity of Horford. You're gonna need
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Williams to be big down low, So his health is
gonna be paramount because we saw the Warriors time and
again the extra pass open driving lanes, and that's gonna
be key from Marcus Smart. It's don't get bag needed
into anything silly by the savviness of the veteran guard
play in Golden State, right, because we've seen Steph Curry
and Draymond Green uh add Clay Thompson uh to a
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number of times drawing some nonsensical falls, right. They get
you frustrated or there's a fall that isn't there, and
they're able to sell. They're very good at selling. That's
what we're talking about here. Uh. And they're gonna need
Derek White to give him some big minutes off the
bench as a defender, but hopefully a little bit of
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offense because that's been sporadic coming off the bench right.
Grant Williams had a couple of big games, but he
disappeared in others. So trying to find that extra score
and alongside that big three is going to be paramount.
But I'm curious how this plays because I picked these Celtics.
I'll go the full seven, but I think that's problematic
for me because that means that Clay Thompson is then
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limitations they do apply. Well. I'm hoping that we're on
a streak here because I don't want this Fantasy football
Tommy fam Jock Peterson story to ever end. I don't.
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I wanted to keep going all the way through next year.
I wanted to keep going, keep going, keep going, And
luckily we have an update tonight. We talked to John
Paul morrossy MLB Network inside our last hour of the show,
and he said, you know, I really like what Tommy
fam said. Today, he was kept out of the lineup
for the reds um after his three game suspension for
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slapping Jack Peterson over a fantasy football disagreement ended. Uh
said he felt some tightness in his calf during batting practice,
so he sat out, but then said, my hand is good,
so still okay with a hand that slapped Jock Peterson. UM.
He also talked in more detail about what happened with Peterson,
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and he said he wants to put it behind him. This.
According to the Cincinnati Inquirer, everyone in that group chat
in the fantasy football league. Everybody knows. I've had some
of those guys reach out to me. They already know
what's up. So basically he's saying, yeah, guys have my
back because I hit a guy before a game, because
I hit Jack Peterson in the face. UH. Two big
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things he said coming off of this today that new information.
One is that he explained the i R fiasco because
we told you in the beginning it was Jack Peterson
was able to move a player from an out desert
nation to injured Reserve and you're not supposed to be
able to do that. And we told you, hey, if
leagues allow you to do it, you can do it.
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If you can figured it that way in the drop
down menu, that doesn't illegal roster, so be it. That's
how you do it. It's it's okay to do that, right.
I would do it, You would do it. Everybody else
would do it. Open up a roster, spy, you may say,
spirit of you know the position and how it's supposed
to be used versus the letter of the law. Spirit
merrit d it allowed in the dropdown So all bets
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are all. That's how it goes. If you're allowed to
do it on the website, you're allowed to do it. Now.
FAM said, listen, we had rules about the i R.
I know the ESPN app rules which allows you to
take a guy from out and put them on into reserve.
We had our own individual rules. So here's FAM saying that, Hey,
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we had our own rules about it, like we talked
about not being able to move a guy. So here's
here's where we go with this, right, Here's here's where
this gets interesting. So what did I say was, don't
be upset with me, don't be upset with Jock Peterson.
Be upset with the commissioner, because the commissioner is the
person that needs to make sure this doesn't happen. If
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you have a question about the rules. This should never
escalated the Jock Peterson and him slapping getting the slap
flight over it, or him slapping Jock Peterson. This should
have been something that was taken care of by the commissioner. So, yeah,
you want to be upset at people. You could be
a little bit upset at Jock Peterson, but the commissioners
a guy supposed to take care of this. Guess who
the commissioner was? It was what Yeah, no, on on
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on on on on a Batman. Wow, I gotta I
gotta worry about Harmon doing it up right now. I
gotta worry about you. That's the thing though. But getting
back into the studio, he's not got a microphone again.
Yeah no, that's not just a text mess and he's
telling you, you know, with his Napoleon Dynamite or or
her Walter. There's more. Now, the commissioner of this league
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was Tim to. The commissioner of this league was Rob
man the commissioner. Wow, if it was Rob Manford, it
would make sense that nothing got done. I'm sorry. Is
it about pace of play? Are the games going on
too long? In fantasy football? The commissioner of this league
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is none other than Angel superstar Mike Trout. Trout is
the commissioner of this fantasy league. FAM saying he's got
some crazy money, so yeah, now this makes more sense. Yeah, Tommy,
Fam laughing saying this for his interview, Trout to the
terrible job man. He's the worst commissioner at Fantasy sports
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because he allowed a lot of stuff to go on,
and he could have solved it all. I don't want
to be the blanking commissioner. I've got another blank to do.
Trout didn't want to do it. We put it on him.
So it's kind of our fault too, because we made
him commissioner. So here's Tommy. If he wants to play
fantasy uh doesn't want to be the commissioner because he's
got to the stuff. Apparently, Mike Trout doesn't have enough
to do angels. To be fair, historically, what have we
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said about Mike Trout and he likes watching weather chasers
and and Crostberg hits it on the head a lot
of spare time in the fall because uh so, but
I got other stuff to do, So he blames Trout
could have taken care of it, but he didn't do it.
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This is exactly where the blame for something like this
should go, right, Why does this fester the way it is?
You need a strong commissioner. Well, but it's also the
situation like if this happens, like as the game is
going on the bat phone, he's just start ring don
on on on on on on on on on on
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on on on bat Okay, we've reached some moratorium on
that for this conversation. Next time we hear that's the
different conversation on what you just played. What was then?
Then don't just don't hit that button again if you
don't know what it was, just don't press a button anyway.
The point being that on that day, the message board
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should have blown up, right, Trout's phone should have blown up,
going wow, this is not good, especially if you're the
guy that potentially loses out on whatever the exorbitant sum
of money is. But even in the immediacy of the
matchup problem that that now constituted. Right. Are there other
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instances over the course of the season where this occurred, probably,
But this is the one that got Tommy fam all
slap happy, and this is what he did, and this
is how he reacted long after this league was gone
long a half. This is like just festered forever. It's
like on is that smiling, smug Jock Peters. You cannot
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be the commissioner if you don't want to do it.
But if you take on the role, yeah, you gotta
make decisions like this. I mean sorry that that's kind
of how it goes for someone who's done fantasy football
for I have been commissioners. Are so many leagues. I
liked being commissioner. I like being able to do that.
It was fun. Now you don't really need a commissioner.
All the heavy lifting is gone from the commission You
don't have to keep score anymore, you don't have to
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worry about anything else, and the websites do it all for.
You don't have to do anything. The only decision that
you're gonna have to make and it isn't necessarily gonna
be written out, uh in the rules as laid out
on ESPN or or Yahoo wherever you're playing. It's the alright,
if a guy can't get to his lineup, but text
the commissioners want to because you know, on out and
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about whatever, my why it's not working on the the
app or whatever that. Now you've got to have those
kind of decisions. But again, you should have a policy
and procedure in place that gets spoken about when you're
sitting down and do the draft. All of that should
be hammered out. There shouldn't be any eleventh hour Oh no,
what happens here? No, I blame Mike Trout for this
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now and now look look out. Now he's involved in
controversy Mike Trouts because I blame him because he could
have taken this is This is what you do as commissioner, right,
this is a very easy thing to do. Hey, Jock,
we decided before the season we weren't using the I
R unless with someone who's I R you have to
you have to do it, or hey, I'm sorry, Tommy,
but this is the way that the league was configured,
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and guys able to do it. Guys are able to
do it, so you gotta make some kind of sense
it said. It makes it seem like Trout just blew
it off, like hey, I don't want to be around
then then why didn't Tommy Fam show up randomly? My god,
it's Tommy Fam and he walks up and he slapped
Mike Troud. Can't slap Mike. Mike Trout is but Mike
Trout is a superstar. This isn't Jock Peterson's fault. Jock
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Peterson is not a superstar. Hey, you shouldn't be slapping anybody,
but you can't walk up and slap Mike Trout. I'm
just saying, not that I'm condoning. I'd like to see
those two get after it there. This is Mike Trout's fault.
If you're the commissioner, this is an easy thing to solve, right.
I just love that this story is such in our wheelhouses,
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and so many people feel like it's in their wheelhouses.
You know, I've done for a long time. I helped
build the Yahoo machine. They haven't given me by Hall
of Fame induction, but I should be there because we
built the thing that made this industry jump to a
whole other level. And I can tell you we built
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this fantasy dud. One of the great piece of advice
we used to give commissioners was be careful with your
settings because there's a lot of options. And that's why
initially we did it. I know ESPN did it all
the big sites that we're not going too crazy letting
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you get into too many variables, because the more we
give you the more and week after week one you're
gonna say, wow, we really didn't intend for this, this
or this, and then now you're gonna give him commissioner
the option of going back and all right, we're gonna
remove that category. We're gonna no, no, Now you've got
all sorts of problems. So once it started to expand
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to a whole other level, you had to really have
the explanations into like, oh, I looked at your league,
here's what you guys set up, and there's no rational
human being that would have wanted this other than to
create chaos. So that's what we had. But even in
the end, if you're trying, you could have just put
it to a vote, Hey should we be allowed to
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do this? Everybody? You had a big text stream going
on right You had a big text stream going on, Hey,
let's put it to a vote. Should he be allowed
to do this? Everybody votes and ways in and that's
how it goes. And Tommy fam can either be upset
about it. He cannot. Jock Peterson can be upset. He
can out. But at least you it sounds this was
just in action, and so Mike Trout was full of
inaction on this, and that's why I blame it. Was
worried about where the Eagles were going. They were direction lists,
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where what's the weather? Like? What are the Eagles doing?
Because it's September and my team, the Angels were struggling.
I mean, it got so bad that zach Hurts got traded.
That's where we're at. I'm sorry, as Jalen Hurts the guy,
or isn't he I couldn't deal with this in the
aftermath of zach Ertz getting traded. I need a weakened psychologically.
The Eagles were falling apart some time, and so Mike
Trump might have been having troubles with that to where
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his commissioner du came darre I can't suddenly suddenly, Tony Stark,
I can't get in the suit I can't get in
the set. Too many is too many problems. I can't
do this. Uh yeah, no, this is very easily something
that was solvable. Right. We didn't need to get to
this point now, Tommy Fam. Oh look, do you need
to carry this around for eight months and then you
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hit a guy? No? I mean, but we've learned a
lot about Tommy Fam the last few days. But this,
but this was easily solvable, right when when you I
feel like I feel like it's this way whenever when
we do sports for a living, right, you know, I
coach you sports. Both our daughters play youth sports, and
a lot of it is volunteer oriented, right, like either
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the the umpires or the referees are volunteer, the parents
are volunteer. Uh. People are doing things not because they're
getting paid, but they're doing things because they want to help. Uh,
the sport go along. I always think that, Okay, yeah,
if you screw a bunch of stuff up, and if
you want to come and say, well, I'm just a volunteer,
I want to say, Okay, if you can't do it right,
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don't volunteer because you're not helping anybody. So you're not
helping volunteering bad. Right, If you're volunteering and you're bad
at it, don't sit here and say, well, I'm only
a volunteer. No, I can get somebody else to volunteer
to be better than you now, or at least do nothing,
because you're doing and you're hurting us. So I kind
of feel the same way here. It's like, yeah, hey,
you know nobody else wanted to be a commissioner. Okay, well,
but you still said you would do it, and they
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still and and for whatever reason, you took it on.
And it's on you, man, that's this whole thing. You
could have done something to stop this from going on, right,
not that, not that suddenly oh it's but this is
the commissioner's fault because this is where this could have
been solved. This is not something that was unsolvable. This
was not There wasn't a uh, there wasn't a a
a a tie breaker set. So I don't know how
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to break the tie for these two teams tied in
the playoff game or something. This was all right, Well,
let's let's say we just gave you three instances where
you could have figured this out pretty easily. Either you
make the decision and say, all right, the rules we
we we agreed on this rule, sorry Jock. Or we
agreed we would go with the rules on the site,
sorry Tommy. Or you know what, I'm gonna let people
vote and and because I I really don't want to
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don't want to do this, so I'm gonna let people
vote on it. All those things that that could have
you and I just solve this thing. But now we
wouldn't have the story. Oh boy, that's tough because I
really liked the story because it's so much fun. But
now it's on Mike Troud like. But that makes it
so much greater because you've got the arguably the best
player in the game is now implicated as really being
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lazy and shiftless in a great place of responsibility with
a lot of money on the line where he needed
to give results and get people to a championship. Wait,
it sounds like his baseball career. I say, I'm walking
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set look Game one of the NBA Finals coming any
week now. We're gonna get it, trust me, at any
week now. It's waiting for it. But this came out
of the National Football League earlier today, a bit of
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a a one two story about Deshaun Watson. First, it
was Texas head coach Lovey Smith who talked about the
departure of Deshaun Watson's now quarterback of the Cleveland Browns
in the off season, and uh, he said, you know, listen, Uh,
sometimes people need to be a part in order to
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move on with their lives. You know, sometime divorce is good.
And that's my statement that I've made a lot of
times when you know, splits gonna happen and both parties
are gonna win once it does. Again, I don't know
exactly what all happen to. Accusations are there and if
they have merit, that will all come out in time.
But for our football team, we needed to move. So
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that was the story early in the day. And then
we find out another woman has filed a lawsuit against
Deshaun Watson, joining twenty two others who accuse him of
sexual misconduct inappropriate sexual conduct during massage sessions. This woman
says that, uh, she massaged him three times and during
the course of the third and final massage, he exposed
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himself to her and there was some unwanted touching that
one on. And this is uh now the latest uh
civil laws that's been filed for Deshaun Watson. And I
gotta be honest with you, I really don't ever want
to talk about Deshaun Watson I don't, I I don't.
It's it's an embarrassing story for the NFL. It's embarrassing
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that he's still in good standing, that nothing has happened.
It's embarrassing that the Browns gave him two hundred and
fifty three million dollars guaranteed. I mean, what what kind
of messages that said, Okay, still in the league, we
trade for you. Here's two hundred fifty three million dollars guaranteed.
And here's twenty three women who have said this happened
with us and Deshaun Watson. And now we got a
couple of stories last week that Deshaun Watson admitted to
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some sexual conduct, sexual activity with with with a couple
of the women here. So I'm just embarrassed for the
NFL that they haven't been able to keep uh, this
story in its proper place. I'm embarrassed that he's you know,
we have to sit here and watch him be celebrated
as a quarterback when this is not finished. None of that,
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this this is not even close to being finished. We
had the bit of okay, well, we're not going to
get the suit filed in court that we thought we
were going to get so okay, now now we can
Now we can go and sign Deshaun Watson. It's over. Really,
this is just a bad story and and nobody wins here.
And when you see that Deshaun Watson is able to
win before this has even come through, he's the guy
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I don't want to talk about, you know, I really
even when it comes up, I'm it's why when he
gets suspended by the NFL if he does, when it
comes to whatever happens on the field and the fall.
But right now it's like the story just isn't good
for anyone. I don't want to talk about them. Yeah.
That the hard part is that there is no end
in sight, and the allegations obviously the HBO UH special
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earlier in the week and a lot of lawyering up,
a lot of legal minds chiming in for the NFL.
The best thing that Roger Goodell ever tried to implement
was the Personal Conduct Policy Protect the Shield movement. The
worst thing Roger Goodell ever did was the Personal Conduct
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Policy Protect the Shield, because no two cases are gonna
be the same. You've got all sorts of allegations and
trying to put everything under they might fall under the
same heading, but they're completely different. In this case, you've
got now twenty three women and trying to decide, all right,
if it's civil versus criminal, how do we a tunicate
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do we have to wait for it to conclude. That's
where the NFL has gotta put itself in a very
difficult problem position there. As for the player, right, we
know what Deshaun Watson the player is, So the contract
is unfortunate. It is what it is now. The loophole
to be able to say, hey, here's his salary for
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two to preclude him being penalized for suspensions uh that
are forthcoming. That's a whole other thing to argue about,
right when we look at the way the National Football
League allows for that. But to your point, the larger
point of talking about it, Yeah, it's unsavory. You've got
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a lot of a lot of details and still a
lot to be sussed out, and the legal process continues
to churn. And I know the wheels of justice turned
slowly is the old euphemism. Here they've stopped. Someone needs
to go clean out the bottom of the wheels to
get this machine moving again. Yea, And and that's my
whole thing is that the story is not over, but
it's being treated like, oh, well, we got past the
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worst of it. No, did we really? We just got
past one hurdle legally now and we know and look
criminally there could still be charges. Yes, yes, there couldn't be.
What he said last week, as you alluded to, that
could open the doors. Who knows. I mean, really, I
don't even want to talk about him. It's it's very different.
It's gonna be really difficult talk about him this this season.
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Hopefully there's other big stories and we don't have to
talk about the NFL. There'll be a million other stories.
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