June 23, 2022 • 35 mins
Today on The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys react to Ravens former DE Tony Siragusa passing away and share their memories of the beloved Baltimore fan favorite. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell testified before members of Congress and said he has no authority to oust Dan Snyder from the league. Plus, Ohio State University received a trademark on the word “THE” and the guys share their own words they want to trademark for themselves!
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Slash match limitations they do apply well. Before we get
into the NFL, let me just say, remember I told
you before the season started, Arrange Judge was going to
be the a l M v P two more home
runs all rise trending everywhere. He's got twenty seven right now. Um,
he will break and he's gonna say he's gonna break
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Maris's record. Like you know, all the other ones don't count.
He's gonna break Maritsis wreck. He's gonna get sixty one
seven home runs. Here we are in the middle of June,
Yankees trailing the Rays four three. But again, I told
you in the preseason Aaron Judge was gonna win a
l m v P my Carmen Well, I also gave
you a nice pick who hit his twenty one against
your team. Today. Uh, you're Don Alvarez now with twenty
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one home runs, fifty one RB. I at batting a
robust three fift on the season for the Astros. You know,
the Astros and Yankees ready to get it on as
we get towards the weekend, so good times ahead. He's
got no chance against Aaron Judge. He's got absolutely no
chan Well, I mean, look, if he can get inside
the body a little bit, because your Don's big, but
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he's not Aaron Judge big. So with the reach, Judge
has him a little bit. Wait, we weren't talking pugilists,
got no you really think the voters are gonna yeah,
we're gonna go vote Alvarez over and no voters are
voting right now. It's like during the finals, let's vote
Curry m v P. But it's only midway through game
one on no no voting the m v P. The
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votes are already in for Aaron Judge, now they're already
being tabulated. It's done, it's finished. Look at that. It's
showing that New York bias throwing it in. I mean,
why don't we revisit the Manny Ramirez comments the other
night that everybody well really butchered. How they analyze those
I didn't bother to do the long dive on it,
but yes, Boston and New York they treat you differently.
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The expectations are bigger, and you go to great heights,
and when you do well, you know what, the the
the Laurel Crown will find your head. And I think
right now for Aaron Judge, that's probably the likelihood. But
you know what, there's a lot of baseball to be played,
my friend, there is a lot of baseball to be played.
Because look, I don't want to be that I but
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is he playing a hundred fifty? Doesn't matter if he
hit runs that. If he does that, then he defies logic.
In this MLB season, where the ball seems to die.
Although the last two weeks all of a sudden offenses up.
It was almost like, hey, you know what, summer's coming.
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Switch to those other balls we made allegedly allegedly allegedly,
but a lot of pictures are on record saying something
don't feel right, uh, and hasn't felt right all season long.
And suddenly, I mean, how many yesterday? I look at
that Angels game we're watching show? Hey, Otani put on
a show with his three run Jack's twelve ten, your
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final Royals, Bobby Witt Jr. With a couple of home
runs in that game for all you trading card prospectors
out there. But about time I thought they were gonna contend.
I thought Bobby Witt Jr. Was gonna be great right away?
Well what you thought they were going to contend? Well?
For a for a playoff spot? Remember they were there?
Are my surprise play off team. Surprise. I was wrong
with surprise again. A lot of baseball to be played,
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Uh yeah, surprises abound. Aaron Judge went off at thirty
to one odds for a l MV No. No, I didn't,
but seems really kind of long. That was pretty good
I'm looking at it right now, right, I'm looking at
it right now. In New York Post thirty to one
on April five. I went off at thirty to one.
Now he's like, even now an election, they can't believe
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they might not even take the bets now at this point, No,
I can't take it. We're not taking your money. Sorry,
they'll be happy to take slam the money to slam
the window down. Not taking your money. Uh so we'll
keep you up. Maybe it's another one. You know, Yankees
are still playing, still batting here in the in the
eighth inning, down four three to the race. But a
really sad story today in the NFL. Look a couple
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of sad stories. You know. We said we were wrapped
the death of Jalen Ferguson earlier in the day. And
then another big shocker, tragic Tony Sea Goosa the Goose
dies at the age of fifty five, one of the
biggest players and personalities in the NFL winning a Super
Bowl with the Ravens and two thousand. Remember you got
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famous for you know, you knocking run rich Gannon out
of the game and and uh, you know, being one
of the lynch pins of that great Ravens, the two
thousand Ravens defense, which people talk about as being one
of the greatest of all time. But it's where he
made his mark as a broadcaster that really stood out,
because you know, I go back and I remember when
he first made the transition from I'm a football player
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into the booth. He was that can't miss guy. And
I remember the radio interviews he would do were must
listen radio because he would come on and he was
that first hey, non quarterback, can't miss guy, right like
you we always see, Hey, the quarterbacks that were called
like Boomeris Siason was a can't miss guy when he
was gonna finish playing in the NFL, and he jumps
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to the booth. And there's a lot of quarterbacks I've
been the can't miss guys. And you see all the
all the players now that are signing big Look. Tom
Brady's gonna be a big star when he retires, Tony Romo,
Ryan Fitzpatrick's gonna wind up being a big star. Everybody
likes the quarterbacks because we know the quarterbacks they meet
with the media, they they have already the wherewithal of
what it's like to deal with the media. So yeah,
I get why the quarterbacks are looked that great. But
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Saragosa was was you know, his defensive tackle and he
and he and and and he just shows up and
he's like, yead he starts telling these amazing stories and
he's tell stories about food and about what he was eating.
And he did so many radio interviews that every time
he was on, it was, hey, this is what Tony
Saragosa said. Right, If Saragosa was coming around now, he
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would be a twenty million dollar a year broadcaster. He
would be someone that if he was finishing his playing
days now we have to go get Tony Saragosa. Right.
Did you have social media when he was on? I
mean this is this is two thousand, two thousand one,
two thousand two, and this is before Twitter, this is
before anything. And Saragosa was that big. His super His
platform was like, hey, could you get on the air
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and interviews? Right, That's what it was. Can you get
on television and do interviews? Can you get on the
radio and do interviews? That's what people had in the
early two thousand's, right before the big break of social media,
and he was this big star. It was unbelievable. If
he came out now, he would be It would it
would be like a like a Brady war because look
at this guy who's a defensive tackle that cuts through
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the clutter, and he can talk about the game unlike
anybody else. He's unafraid to tell stories. He's unafraid to
to to open up the and pull the curtain back
in the locker room. He would be as big as
he was when he came out. He would be even
bigger now if he if he started his career now
in the National Football League and being a broadcaster. Yeah,
I mean the biggest thing about Saragosa is that you
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know he was in every Man, Right. You talk about
the quarterbacks in their shots, Well, you know they're the
guys we see. So anybody who's a casual and mag casual,
I triple underscore it. Uh. You walk into a room
on a Sunday because people are watching football in your
house and you really give uh. I couldn't give a
care on any way, shape or form. It's just there
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and permeates the room. You You learned the quarterbacks names, right,
you see them in commercials, You see them around and
the names are bandied about in your office place or
around the playgrounds or whatever else. Guy like Saragosa. Well,
you know, he was the guy for the rest of
us that you know. I've always been a big fan
of the defensive tackle position. Why because I was a
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fire hydrant. Uh, and that's where I was. I was
playing finding my way in the muck and the meyer there,
uh and getting through. But you know, spoke like an
every day guy. His shows after he was done, a
lot about food, a lot about you know, building, man caves,
all of those things showed up in the Sopranos and
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all that. But he had that every man quality. We we
we used to have him on, you know, the network
all the time as a member of the Fox family,
and he'd come on and and have a story or
two and would get down to brass tacks of all, right,
how do you beat up this quarterback? Well? What you
need to do? Uh? And it wasn't the usual It's like, well,
if you get pressure at his feet? No, no, No,
He'd had specifics for quarterbacks and how to get after it. Right.
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She was you know what I did. I said to
this guy after I hit him once, you don't have
the guts to throw that ball downfield? Like he would
tell stories like that, not just hey, I'm setting up
this guy with this move and this. He was like,
you know what I said to him once in the
middle of the game, you know what he said back
to me, And you'd be like like like like a
fish with a hook in its mouth, like would tell me,
what did you say? What did you say? It was?
I mean, that was that was it? Because it was
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This is when I was first starting my broadcasting career,
right and in the early two thousands, one Goose was
there and I was like, I saw the power of
what it was when you can be that person as
an athlete and it's not just a quarterback. And it was,
I mean, it was. It was amazing to listen to.
And I was jealous and I was and I was
wishing that I'd be able to be able to tell
stories like that that he could tell, because everything he
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said was funny and everything was different. It wasn't just
your your your normal analyst stuff. He could break down
the game. But let's face it, how much do you
listen when guys talk about breaking down and hey, why
did so and so get this sack? Well, you see
what happens he uses a head slap or the Double
Spin movie. Yeah, what a great move by Aaron Donald. Yeah,
Aaron Donald's a great player. Who's paying attention that. But
when he's telling the story about h you know, I
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I talked to John Jansen in the off season, or
I was able to talk to Jake Long and he
did that and I told him and I said, when
I play you, I'm gonna do this. I mean, that's
what you listen to. That's what made him such a
such a great listen it's such a great personality. Well
he was down on the sidelines, let's throw it down
to and there'd be the pause, Alright, Goose, what are
you got for us? Now it's like, I don't know
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you like the producer, she had no idea, no matter
what was planned. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what He very easily
could have gone off script, and oftentimes he did, Hey,
what am I throwing down to Goose for? I don't know.
He just he says he's got something. Just say hey
to Goose. Okay, hey, Goose, what do you got for us?
And he would just do whatever. Yeah, And I look,
I've been doing spots with it with a guy in
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fault and more. I mean, one of the first things
I ever did radio wise and and all throughout you know,
been been doing it weekly and you know, talking to
the guys that have worked, you know, and producing and
and you know, trying to be showrunners there in Baltimore. Uh,
to a man as you exchange text messages today, like
that was the guy that was always like, yeah, what
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do you got? Alright, alright, let's let's get wild weight.
You're doing a remote were it's like, okay, I could
probably make it that kind of thing, like generous with
his time, with his storytelling. Uh. And just a guy
that was beloved in that city. And you know, we
we talked about it, and we obviously as a broadcaster,
right had that larger than life persona going back to
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Hard Knocks and through his tenure with Fox, but remembering
the player that the guy was, and now that defense
is so revered it doesn't work without him up front. Yeah,
let's seven pounds of defensive tackles. Yes, it's tough to
do that. That's why they gave up like eight yards
a game on the ground. Well where you're gonna run,
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well not there? Where else are you gonna run? Well?
Not there? I forget it. We're gonna lose by fifty. Anyway,
what are we worried about bullies up front? I mean, look,
I I've always talked about the establishment of the wall
of mean right in the fictional house along the lake.
At some point it's gonna be all Jerseys that acquire
of guys that just clogged holes and dominated up fronts,
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Guys like Hellodi Nada, Guys like Tony Saragos, so that really,
you know, changed how you ran an offense and did
things on their own terms. And you know, obviously they
really broken hearted from the people of Baltimore. Between Ferguson
and Sara Goosa, just a very difficult day. Rest in peace, Goose,
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I got a question for you, my car before we
get into this big NFL story. So, with Ohio State
copyrighting the word the mike, do I do I owe
them money now that somehow they're able to copyright the
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word the But if pronounce it the do I always
have to say the now? Because if I say these, like,
do I own now like eighteen dollars for doing that
or what? Yeah? I think only if you use the
um when it's spelled the and you're referring to them.
I've not read these wa So wait if I use
the and I'm referring to them, so I could say
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the if I say I'm going to the store for
a drink, I can say that. I would think you're okay, okay,
but I can't sound like an idiot. But yeah, I
think the But I can't say the if I talk
about that football team from Ohio, now I'm talking like
Jim Harbaugh team. So yeah, I think what they're really
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trying to do there is the It's really the enforcement
of mom and pop T shirt printing shops and folks
on the web that are trying to capitalize on it
where they can and may be around Columbus. Right, there's
there's market uh you know for the this that, the other,
uh product or service that maybe they're just saying, you
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know what, we want to make sure we own that.
Now here's the thing they'll have to vigorously enforced, said
said protections that they just got today. It's it's a
whole much ado about stupidity. But you know what, Hey,
it got them in the news. Good for them. Yeah,
it's weird. You can you can copyright that word like
it's it's the most common word in the English language. Yeah,
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because a lot of folks say the instead of the
And I'm like, I don't know where that where that
started or why it started or however, but that that's sprogative.
But in this case, and I think it's got to
be specifically in reference to the university. Otherwise we should
all just start sending in for the most commonly used words,
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almost like we're playing scrabble. Uh, here's all the letters.
We should do the same thing. George Carlin, Uh, you
know the anniversary of his passing, I think it's today
or was yesterday. Uh, you know, he gave us the
seven Deadly Seven seven words you can't say seven deadly worlds,
not the seven deadly sins, but the seven words you
can't say. So I mean, do we do that? We
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picked seven words and we try to get our our
stamp on him as well? Yes, I mean what else
you got and no, no, no, I want uh. I
definitely want to use because I think is pretty good. Well,
we want both A and U h h age for
social media perspect active. I mean we'll be We'll be
cash and chips all over the place. Yes, yes, we'll
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be able to buy our own islands. We'll be hanging
out with the Clune Dog off Lake Como. Come on.
I also want Yeah. I think we should have yeah
yeah as a good one. And METS can trademark METS.
I don't know, it might have been I gotta think
they've already got that one, but but it's Metropolitans, so
maybe we could just get next they weren't smart enough
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to trademark and it is the METS if there was
no person in business operations in the structure. Since yeah,
this is like when you when you hear guys from
bands that have broken up going, why does the lead
singer get to tour with the band's name. I don't know.
We we didn't think he can make any money if
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we weren't in the band with him. That's fine, so
we so we signed it. We didn't care. That's why
this guy's making all the money because uh Gaxell could
tour with guns and Roses and Slash out to tour
with Slash and everybody else. Oh no, we did. We
didn't think we could do that. We let the guy
have the name worked out for him. Yeah, can't have it,
can't have it now, that's it. Well, and obviously when
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you start you say, all right, who gets the most
the biggest percentage, Well, the guys that write the songs
usually your lead singer and either your lead guitarist or
your rhythm guitar. That's whoever's on book. Sometimes the bassist.
I mean, maybe he's got some love to or maybe
you all just get equal rights. But let's face it,
most bands, that's not the same, and that's not the
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way one thing get signed. It's like, why did you
signed the band? Well, I thought their lead singer was dynamic,
which means he's getting a bigger cut of the deal.
Of course, when the band blows up, he'd laughing, going yeah,
I'll keep jouring, but I've got uh, I got the
name rights and whatever else. And look at Pink Floyd.
Roger Waters went and did his thing, Gilmore. I mean,
that was in the chords forever. And then they finally
had to pay him. Roger Water is a huge amount
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of money to keep using the names like okay, And
that's when they started getting back together. But they wouldn't
pass the midway part of the stage. That would be
on stage together, but they would not stand next to
each other. Did a couple of those appearance. That was
my favorite. That was my favorite, that that Roger Waters
couldn't go past this midway part of the stage and
David Gilmour couldn't go past the other part. They stayed
on their own side of the stage. We don't get together,
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we don't stand together at all. You don't cross into
my area. I don't cross in your area. That's the
definition of staying together. For the money. I mean that's hey,
we need the money so bad, But alright, I'm still
We're gonna put this piece of tape down the center
of the stage, and you don't go over this line.
I don't go over the other that's rock and Roll.
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Fox Sports Radio Studios. Today was a big day in
the NFL and we can tell you how this drama
with Daniel Snyder and the Washington commanders is going to end.
It's been a big day the last couple of days.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell testifying today in front of Congress
about the Daniel Snyder situation, the ongoing scrutiny into the
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watching commander's workplace culture, and accusations from various women employees
about sexual harassment by team executives. This has been a
pretty big story over the course of the past few months,
and now it looks like maybe we could be getting
answers from Roger Goodell and company and how this is
going to wind up ending for Daniel Snyder. Daniel Snyder,
who says, Oh, I'm traveling, I can't I can't testify here,
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and many other people who would be testifying for this
in front of Congress are off in Italy and different blots.
We can't we're out of the country. We can't testify.
But the big money quote today comes from Roger Goodell.
Before we get into the ridiculousness of it. The big
money quote from Roger Goodell when he was on the
stand today, asked about many lawmakers, about many different things.
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He was asked if he could remove Daniel Snyder as
owner of the Washington Commanders after all of these allegations
have been levied, and Roger Goodell's response was, quote, I
don't have the authority to remove him. All right, let's
stop for one second. He let's stop for one second.
Does Roger Adele have the universal right to say, Hey,
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Daniel Snyder, I'm removing you. No, of course he doesn't.
He can't do that. But he could call for a vote,
because you need twenty four the thirty two owners to say, hey, uh, yes,
we're okay with removing Daniel Snyder as owner of the NFL.
He has the power to put that into play. He
has the power to make this conversation happen, and he
has not. He's gone from every other day of the year,
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the other three sixty four days of the year. It's
I'm the commissioner of the NFL. What I say is
the law today it was I'm just the commissioner. I mean,
I really, I don't I don't have a lot of power.
I mean, I know what you're asking me for. You
gotta ask Jerry Jones some of these other guys. I'm
just the commissioner. I can't do it every other day,
is ay? What I say? Oh today is I'm just
I'm just the commissioner. What what? What do you want
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me to do? Look, this is a ridiculous show, um,
and it's embarrassing for the NFL that here is a
this is a very big story about a toxic workplace culture.
And you have many accusations and the NFL is sad
around and just said, hey, Daniel Snyder, don't just don't
be around for a while. Uh, you know, as as
as ridiculous as it is, I'll tell you how this
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is gonna wind up ending. This will end with the
NFL forcing Daniel Snyder or convincing him that he has
to sell the team. That's how this is gonna end.
And they will give him a year to sell the
team and he will sell it. There will be a
they'll be blind bids for it, which will also increase
the amount of value of the franchise. Because if you're
seeing things, the Washington commanders can go for what four billion,
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five billion, six billions. Someone wants wants to own a
football team. Uh. This is how it's gonna eventually wind up.
Ending is that he doesn't get removed from from power
and remove from running Washington commanders. Is that he will
be convinced, Hey, you have to sell the team, and
that will be the agreement. This is this is how
we go forward. This is embarrassing for the NFL because
many of the of the um comments today by the
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House committee that investigated the NFL over this situation with Washington.
We're really bad. Hey, the NFL conducted a shadow investigation.
They allowed this uh sham situation to continue. It is
on them. It is their fault. This was not a
good day for the NFL. So eventually that's how it's
going to end. It's gonna be, Hey, you gotta sell
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the team. This is just really bad. We're not protecting
the shield. We gotta move on. You tried to give
Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen up as a sacrificial lamps. Okay,
it's not working. We just got slapped around by Congress here.
So yeah, this is how it's gonna end with Daniel
Snyder selling the team. Well, the fact that he denied
the ability on an invitation to come in and then
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has to be subpoena is dumb. The fact that anybody
that has worked in the organization for the last two
years are writing a character witness type letters releasing them
to the media to say, oh, no, I mean the
last two years. I mean I'm Ron Rivera. I was
hired with the directive of here's where we're going. It's like,
what are we doing? Like you basically raising your hands
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saying yeah, no, absolute trash, but look we're changing. Like
that doesn't erase everything that's in the past, right, Jason Wright,
Ron Rivera, everybody in the executive offices now can scream
until they're blue in the face of it's a different
world around here. Well, Daniel Snyder's still cutting checks saying
he's not running the day to day. Is anybody believing that,
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I mean, really you no, No, my wife's gonna be
in charge and we won't talk about it at all. Yeah,
they're believing that. In Roger Goodell, sometimes he's got you
you love to say, hey, you know all the power
in the world, and then other times, hey, I'm just
the coach. Well he's doing that just a commissioner, I mean,
what do you want from me? So just a cloud show?
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That was some of the the tone tenor of the
folks asking questions of the commissioner at times like all right,
it's obvious you don't like the NFL or past decisions
by the NFL. You're frustrated that the Washington football team
slide commanders have been terrible, uh for a long time,
whatever the case may bee. Uh. You know, at some
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point you're still a professional as well, So I act
like you've been there. But for for Roger Goodell is
going up and he's got to be the guy, right,
that's why he gets paid his fifty million dollars sixty
million dollars a year. Uh, and he and he wears it,
you know. For Daniel Snyder, I think it's the other
owners have to make the decision, all right, is he's
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still good enough to be in our club? Because really,
what's behind door number three is there? Right? What's in
the stacks of evidence that can continue to leak out
beyond the allegations that are in the public public sphere.
Right for him, I I still see him sitting there, Jason,
I don't, I don't. I don't think he goes quietly
into the good night. We may not go quietly, but
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eventually that's how it's going to end. I mean, well,
he already gave up the name. I didn't think that
was gonna happen. Well he's trying. It's this is just
And they shouldn't have gone away from the football team,
by the way, Well that would have been better. Comman'm
I'm kind of coming around the commanders a little bit.
I mean, I'm saying it more often. They make Russell
Crow his uh the Master and Commander should he should
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have gotten his uh his okay, and maybe he should
trade your trademark, Master in Command. There's a picture of
me that they used the DVD. Wait, Frost, but you
didn't like Master and Commander? Which part of it? It
was like six hours long? It well, it was. There's
no short movies that are about, you know, hundreds of
years ago. They always have to be these law you know,
(26:30):
there's gonna be no brisk hour and a half movie
looking back at something in history. It's gonna be, Oh,
we need the scope of five hours to tell this story. Now,
I think people pretty much know what the eighteen hundreds
that we know what, they're all hour and a half.
You tell a better story, Get out of here. You
can give me six Titanic could have been a brisk
ninety minutes, right, just just t Can I just tell
(26:52):
you I've actually never seen it in its entirety Titanic, Really,
you've never seen the movie. I've probably seen it all
between Instagram and take and clips and obviously everybody's celebrating
the the styles and uh, well the majesty of Kate Winslet.
(27:13):
But the we won't tell you how it ends, no,
and well, and that's one of the reasons I protested
about the movie existing. Well, the thing is that I
do the end before. But listen, I'll tell you exactly
how it ends. Because look, they catch Leo. They catch
him doing a lot of drugs, and he falls outside
his car and and they get into his business and
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they wind up catching him and he goes to jail,
and then John Hammond shows up, takes stuff from that
stone and creates Jurassic and then he fights a bear
and he loses, and they carry him around for a
long time. And that's where the whole heart of the
Ocean comes from, because they carry him all the way
to the ocean, and and then they let him go
into the ocean, and then he fights the bear. Now,
since we've brought all the poor, we already fought. But
(27:56):
we already said he fought the bear. Yeah, well you
fight him again because then he fights Bill the Butcher. No, no,
that's in. That's in. That's in Titanic too. Yeah. Bill
the Butcher would be a nice addition to me as well.
There's no question but mentioning Russell crowd just because we're there.
Uh is a guy that complains about comic book movies
or whatever. He was Joel and now he's showing up
(28:18):
in Zeus so he can shut up. Wow, he's showing
up in the new UH four movie as Zeus. Come on, man,
all right, like the check shut up? All right? Well
it's okay, you look Love and Thunder is supposed to
be pretty good. Well, I expect it to be funny.
And if it's late night and you've been able to
do a little elbow bending, or maybe it's white TV,
(28:42):
so you know it's gonna be fun. He's you know,
if if if this isn't a fun movie, would take
a white TV. I I cringe at what the next
Star Wars movie is gonna wind up being Hey, I
mean the Canobe ended today. I haven't seen it yet.
I just I watched the first Yeah, I'm gonn to
spoil the whole damn thing because I just spoiled Titanic
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for you. Yeah, you took that away from me. That's
what Doug say. Let a new Doug. Doug's dead, right, Doug.
That's Doug. Doug's over there. Oh Doug's dead. See, anytime
you meet somebody named Doug, the first thing he says, oh,
Doug's dead, and to see if they get it. And
then they look at me and go yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
get it. Or they say that guy's got problems. That's Doug,
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the Stanley Cup Final, Colorado and Tampa Bay tied at
to a piece, less than twenty seconds left to go.
Either we're walking out of here too too brand new
Stanley Cup Final, or the lanch are gonna be one
win away from the Stanley Cup. And I you like
how I said Lance right and saying lanch and let
me saying dubs the other night, But I said lanch
does actually say lanch? I do the Lanch. I like
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the Lanch, but like legitimately I think it is if not,
I just made it the thing the lanch. I mean
I saw someone in their timeline. I'm probably had no
home to Chicago in a couple of weeks. Uh. They
were at a South Side drinking establishment, and you had
options for you know what kind of vessel they bring
in India. So you want, you know, a tiki mug, right, Uh,
(31:16):
tiki cup full of your favorite booze. You could get
one in the shape of any of the Golden Girls
or dracks. Sure, there were many others in the picture.
I'd have gone just in a minute. Well, which is
why I got Blanche in. But I'll tell you what
the the the b Arthurn just looked like she really
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ticked off they painted her face on there. I'm like,
that's probably the best drinking mug, because you know, folks,
or if they're approaching you, they're either looking to fight
or they really want to get to know you, because
you're the most interesting man in the room. Twitter and
Out about a Fresco Mike and swollen dome with the
NBA Draft tomorrow night, right right from the NBA following
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right Sided, how about a big hot take on the
eve of the draft? Oh please? On Jonathan Givney's on
the Low Post podcast on ESPN. Earlier today, there was
a report that the Pacers had a good laugh over
the Lakers attempt to offload Russell Westbrook and Taylor Horton
Tucker and first round pick in exchange from Malcolm Brogden.
(32:17):
That was pretty good. Now the Pacers say Brogden is
not going anywhere, and again, according to Jonathan Givney on
the Low Post podcast, um, they got a nice chuckle
and said, no, thank you. We've got better deals on
the table than that if they want to offer them.
So let me give you this hot take for Russell Westbrook, right,
something that hasn't been broached yet, because either it's been
(32:39):
trade Russell Westbrook or keep Russell Westbrook. How about this?
Why don't you, John Wallam, if he's holding you back
that much? And obviously the Lakers want to get rid
of him, they're trying to get rid of him. If
you want to get rid of him, John Wallam, And
by that, I mean we're gonna agree. You're gonna get paid,
and you're not gonna play for us this year, and
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we're gonna give more playing time to younger players. We
want to give playing time to This will mean more
time for Taylor Horton Tucker. It will be more time
for Kendrick Nunn, more time for the younger players that
they're going to need. Because when you're the Lakers and
you know that you can't make any moves to make
the team better, why are you putting in a progress
stopper like Russell Westbrook? So how about that's the solution
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for for the Lakers. You sent him down and you're
under that agreement, and when as things go on during
the season, things can change. You can trade him at
some point if you really want to or if you
want to play him because he either learns his lessons
where you get desperate because you just think, maybe think
something will change. How about that for the option that
the Lakers and and and Westbrook agree to a decision
(33:43):
that he's just not going to play. The Lakers are
gonna pay him, just like you saw in with John
with John Wall for the last year and some other
players too. We're gonna pay you. You're here and then
eventually you're gonna be on a different team, but you're
just not gonna play. He's a progress stopper, So why
do it? Let's see how do I best put this?
I like your your idea. No, give me, give me
a normal thing. See, I like your idea in theory,
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but I was the Germanic pause, like I was talking
a W W E ring in theory. But remember we
are dealing with a mom and pop shop with the
Los Angeles Lakers. Look one of the greatest brands in
sports entertainment, no question about it, but we know how
they operate. If they're not getting any actual output from him. Now,
(34:30):
one would argue they could probably look at a plus
minus on the court of you know, replacements at this point,
uh and say it's a better deal. Uh. They would say,
we're not getting any value or statistical output from a
guy we're paying forty seven million dollars. There's no chance
in now. And that's the problem organizationally, Like if you
had someone else, you know, at the at the big
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wheel and making things go to go back to your
Titanic and they can avoid the iceberg. No, the icebergs
already on all right. Russell Westbrook is already there. He
has already in the building. So you can't avoid that
iceberg and put it off to the wayside. You've got
to deal with it. And that means either finding some
unwitting soul to take him off your hands, or you
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still have him in the rotation and you figure out
how to make it work. If you're Darvin Ham, maybe
he can get through to him in a way that uh,
your former coach, the Great Frank Vogel could not. Nope,
John Wallam, you're gonna sit. Who's gonna he's really gonna
change it. He's not gonna change for anybody. I'm not
gonna change. He's not gonna No one's gonna change. No.
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But that just means he only plays when Lebron sits out.
You've got twelve minutes at night and shoot your head off.
When Lebron is not playing, that's he'll be in the
line up. What about the other nights you're not happening.
We got more on this and more in another big
NBA story coming up next. This is Fox
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he pulled one of those moves yesterday where he took
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a situation where he didn't draw breath. So he's like,
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your school and I'm just gonna key going through scores, like,
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from behind victory. Look, we're talking about him, so it's
a good strategy on his bar, just like all the
knucklehead basketball players, football players, whatever. Of Hey, I've got
a podcast or some new media hashtag new media, uh
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Slash match limitations they do apply well. Before we get
into the NFL, let me just say, remember I told
you before the season started, Arrange Judge was going to
be the a l M v P two more home
runs all rise trending everywhere. He's got twenty seven right now. Um,
he will break and he's gonna say he's gonna break
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Maris's record. Like you know, all the other ones don't count.
He's gonna break Maritsis wreck. He's gonna get sixty one
seven home runs. Here we are in the middle of June,
Yankees trailing the Rays four three. But again, I told
you in the preseason Aaron Judge was gonna win a
l m v P my Carmen Well, I also gave
you a nice pick who hit his twenty one against
your team. Today. Uh, you're Don Alvarez now with twenty
(02:35):
one home runs, fifty one RB. I at batting a
robust three fift on the season for the Astros. You know,
the Astros and Yankees ready to get it on as
we get towards the weekend, so good times ahead. He's
got no chance against Aaron Judge. He's got absolutely no
chan Well, I mean, look, if he can get inside
the body a little bit, because your Don's big, but
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he's not Aaron Judge big. So with the reach, Judge
has him a little bit. Wait, we weren't talking pugilists,
got no you really think the voters are gonna yeah,
we're gonna go vote Alvarez over and no voters are
voting right now. It's like during the finals, let's vote
Curry m v P. But it's only midway through game
one on no no voting the m v P. The
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votes are already in for Aaron Judge, now they're already
being tabulated. It's done, it's finished. Look at that. It's
showing that New York bias throwing it in. I mean,
why don't we revisit the Manny Ramirez comments the other
night that everybody well really butchered. How they analyze those
I didn't bother to do the long dive on it,
but yes, Boston and New York they treat you differently.
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The expectations are bigger, and you go to great heights,
and when you do well, you know what, the the
the Laurel Crown will find your head. And I think
right now for Aaron Judge, that's probably the likelihood. But
you know what, there's a lot of baseball to be played,
my friend, there is a lot of baseball to be played.
Because look, I don't want to be that I but
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is he playing a hundred fifty? Doesn't matter if he
hit runs that. If he does that, then he defies logic.
In this MLB season, where the ball seems to die.
Although the last two weeks all of a sudden offenses up.
It was almost like, hey, you know what, summer's coming.
(04:23):
Switch to those other balls we made allegedly allegedly allegedly,
but a lot of pictures are on record saying something
don't feel right, uh, and hasn't felt right all season long.
And suddenly, I mean, how many yesterday? I look at
that Angels game we're watching show? Hey, Otani put on
a show with his three run Jack's twelve ten, your
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final Royals, Bobby Witt Jr. With a couple of home
runs in that game for all you trading card prospectors
out there. But about time I thought they were gonna contend.
I thought Bobby Witt Jr. Was gonna be great right away?
Well what you thought they were going to contend? Well?
For a for a playoff spot? Remember they were there?
Are my surprise play off team. Surprise. I was wrong
with surprise again. A lot of baseball to be played,
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Uh yeah, surprises abound. Aaron Judge went off at thirty
to one odds for a l MV No. No, I didn't,
but seems really kind of long. That was pretty good
I'm looking at it right now, right, I'm looking at
it right now. In New York Post thirty to one
on April five. I went off at thirty to one.
Now he's like, even now an election, they can't believe
(05:29):
they might not even take the bets now at this point, No,
I can't take it. We're not taking your money. Sorry,
they'll be happy to take slam the money to slam
the window down. Not taking your money. Uh so we'll
keep you up. Maybe it's another one. You know, Yankees
are still playing, still batting here in the in the
eighth inning, down four three to the race. But a
really sad story today in the NFL. Look a couple
(05:50):
of sad stories. You know. We said we were wrapped
the death of Jalen Ferguson earlier in the day. And
then another big shocker, tragic Tony Sea Goosa the Goose
dies at the age of fifty five, one of the
biggest players and personalities in the NFL winning a Super
Bowl with the Ravens and two thousand. Remember you got
(06:10):
famous for you know, you knocking run rich Gannon out
of the game and and uh, you know, being one
of the lynch pins of that great Ravens, the two
thousand Ravens defense, which people talk about as being one
of the greatest of all time. But it's where he
made his mark as a broadcaster that really stood out,
because you know, I go back and I remember when
he first made the transition from I'm a football player
(06:32):
into the booth. He was that can't miss guy. And
I remember the radio interviews he would do were must
listen radio because he would come on and he was
that first hey, non quarterback, can't miss guy, right like
you we always see, Hey, the quarterbacks that were called
like Boomeris Siason was a can't miss guy when he
was gonna finish playing in the NFL, and he jumps
(06:54):
to the booth. And there's a lot of quarterbacks I've
been the can't miss guys. And you see all the
all the players now that are signing big Look. Tom
Brady's gonna be a big star when he retires, Tony Romo,
Ryan Fitzpatrick's gonna wind up being a big star. Everybody
likes the quarterbacks because we know the quarterbacks they meet
with the media, they they have already the wherewithal of
what it's like to deal with the media. So yeah,
I get why the quarterbacks are looked that great. But
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Saragosa was was you know, his defensive tackle and he
and he and and and he just shows up and
he's like, yead he starts telling these amazing stories and
he's tell stories about food and about what he was eating.
And he did so many radio interviews that every time
he was on, it was, hey, this is what Tony
Saragosa said. Right, If Saragosa was coming around now, he
(07:38):
would be a twenty million dollar a year broadcaster. He
would be someone that if he was finishing his playing
days now we have to go get Tony Saragosa. Right.
Did you have social media when he was on? I
mean this is this is two thousand, two thousand one,
two thousand two, and this is before Twitter, this is
before anything. And Saragosa was that big. His super His
platform was like, hey, could you get on the air
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and interviews? Right, That's what it was. Can you get
on television and do interviews? Can you get on the
radio and do interviews? That's what people had in the
early two thousand's, right before the big break of social media,
and he was this big star. It was unbelievable. If
he came out now, he would be It would it
would be like a like a Brady war because look
at this guy who's a defensive tackle that cuts through
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the clutter, and he can talk about the game unlike
anybody else. He's unafraid to tell stories. He's unafraid to
to to open up the and pull the curtain back
in the locker room. He would be as big as
he was when he came out. He would be even
bigger now if he if he started his career now
in the National Football League and being a broadcaster. Yeah,
I mean the biggest thing about Saragosa is that you
(08:43):
know he was in every Man, Right. You talk about
the quarterbacks in their shots, Well, you know they're the
guys we see. So anybody who's a casual and mag casual,
I triple underscore it. Uh. You walk into a room
on a Sunday because people are watching football in your
house and you really give uh. I couldn't give a
care on any way, shape or form. It's just there
(09:04):
and permeates the room. You You learned the quarterbacks names, right,
you see them in commercials, You see them around and
the names are bandied about in your office place or
around the playgrounds or whatever else. Guy like Saragosa. Well,
you know, he was the guy for the rest of
us that you know. I've always been a big fan
of the defensive tackle position. Why because I was a
(09:24):
fire hydrant. Uh, and that's where I was. I was
playing finding my way in the muck and the meyer there,
uh and getting through. But you know, spoke like an
every day guy. His shows after he was done, a
lot about food, a lot about you know, building, man caves,
all of those things showed up in the Sopranos and
(09:47):
all that. But he had that every man quality. We we
we used to have him on, you know, the network
all the time as a member of the Fox family,
and he'd come on and and have a story or
two and would get down to brass tacks of all, right,
how do you beat up this quarterback? Well? What you
need to do? Uh? And it wasn't the usual It's like, well,
if you get pressure at his feet? No, no, No,
He'd had specifics for quarterbacks and how to get after it. Right.
(10:09):
She was you know what I did. I said to
this guy after I hit him once, you don't have
the guts to throw that ball downfield? Like he would
tell stories like that, not just hey, I'm setting up
this guy with this move and this. He was like,
you know what I said to him once in the
middle of the game, you know what he said back
to me, And you'd be like like like like a
fish with a hook in its mouth, like would tell me,
what did you say? What did you say? It was?
I mean, that was that was it? Because it was
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This is when I was first starting my broadcasting career,
right and in the early two thousands, one Goose was
there and I was like, I saw the power of
what it was when you can be that person as
an athlete and it's not just a quarterback. And it was,
I mean, it was. It was amazing to listen to.
And I was jealous and I was and I was
wishing that I'd be able to be able to tell
stories like that that he could tell, because everything he
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said was funny and everything was different. It wasn't just
your your your normal analyst stuff. He could break down
the game. But let's face it, how much do you
listen when guys talk about breaking down and hey, why
did so and so get this sack? Well, you see
what happens he uses a head slap or the Double
Spin movie. Yeah, what a great move by Aaron Donald. Yeah,
Aaron Donald's a great player. Who's paying attention that. But
when he's telling the story about h you know, I
(11:16):
I talked to John Jansen in the off season, or
I was able to talk to Jake Long and he
did that and I told him and I said, when
I play you, I'm gonna do this. I mean, that's
what you listen to. That's what made him such a
such a great listen it's such a great personality. Well
he was down on the sidelines, let's throw it down
to and there'd be the pause, Alright, Goose, what are
you got for us? Now it's like, I don't know
(11:37):
you like the producer, she had no idea, no matter
what was planned. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what He very easily
could have gone off script, and oftentimes he did, Hey,
what am I throwing down to Goose for? I don't know.
He just he says he's got something. Just say hey
to Goose. Okay, hey, Goose, what do you got for us?
And he would just do whatever. Yeah, And I look,
I've been doing spots with it with a guy in
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fault and more. I mean, one of the first things
I ever did radio wise and and all throughout you know,
been been doing it weekly and you know, talking to
the guys that have worked, you know, and producing and
and you know, trying to be showrunners there in Baltimore. Uh,
to a man as you exchange text messages today, like
that was the guy that was always like, yeah, what
(12:20):
do you got? Alright, alright, let's let's get wild weight.
You're doing a remote were it's like, okay, I could
probably make it that kind of thing, like generous with
his time, with his storytelling. Uh. And just a guy
that was beloved in that city. And you know, we
we talked about it, and we obviously as a broadcaster,
right had that larger than life persona going back to
(12:42):
Hard Knocks and through his tenure with Fox, but remembering
the player that the guy was, and now that defense
is so revered it doesn't work without him up front. Yeah,
let's seven pounds of defensive tackles. Yes, it's tough to
do that. That's why they gave up like eight yards
a game on the ground. Well where you're gonna run,
(13:04):
well not there? Where else are you gonna run? Well?
Not there? I forget it. We're gonna lose by fifty. Anyway,
what are we worried about bullies up front? I mean, look,
I I've always talked about the establishment of the wall
of mean right in the fictional house along the lake.
At some point it's gonna be all Jerseys that acquire
of guys that just clogged holes and dominated up fronts,
(13:24):
Guys like Hellodi Nada, Guys like Tony Saragos, so that really,
you know, changed how you ran an offense and did
things on their own terms. And you know, obviously they
really broken hearted from the people of Baltimore. Between Ferguson
and Sara Goosa, just a very difficult day. Rest in peace, Goose,
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I got a question for you, my car before we
get into this big NFL story. So, with Ohio State
copyrighting the word the mike, do I do I owe
them money now that somehow they're able to copyright the
(14:28):
word the But if pronounce it the do I always
have to say the now? Because if I say these, like,
do I own now like eighteen dollars for doing that
or what? Yeah? I think only if you use the
um when it's spelled the and you're referring to them.
I've not read these wa So wait if I use
the and I'm referring to them, so I could say
(14:51):
the if I say I'm going to the store for
a drink, I can say that. I would think you're okay, okay,
but I can't sound like an idiot. But yeah, I
think the But I can't say the if I talk
about that football team from Ohio, now I'm talking like
Jim Harbaugh team. So yeah, I think what they're really
(15:14):
trying to do there is the It's really the enforcement
of mom and pop T shirt printing shops and folks
on the web that are trying to capitalize on it
where they can and may be around Columbus. Right, there's
there's market uh you know for the this that, the other,
uh product or service that maybe they're just saying, you
(15:35):
know what, we want to make sure we own that.
Now here's the thing they'll have to vigorously enforced, said
said protections that they just got today. It's it's a
whole much ado about stupidity. But you know what, Hey,
it got them in the news. Good for them. Yeah,
it's weird. You can you can copyright that word like
it's it's the most common word in the English language. Yeah,
(15:57):
because a lot of folks say the instead of the
And I'm like, I don't know where that where that
started or why it started or however, but that that's sprogative.
But in this case, and I think it's got to
be specifically in reference to the university. Otherwise we should
all just start sending in for the most commonly used words,
(16:20):
almost like we're playing scrabble. Uh, here's all the letters.
We should do the same thing. George Carlin, Uh, you
know the anniversary of his passing, I think it's today
or was yesterday. Uh, you know, he gave us the
seven Deadly Seven seven words you can't say seven deadly worlds,
not the seven deadly sins, but the seven words you
can't say. So I mean, do we do that? We
(16:41):
picked seven words and we try to get our our
stamp on him as well? Yes, I mean what else
you got and no, no, no, I want uh. I
definitely want to use because I think is pretty good. Well,
we want both A and U h h age for
social media perspect active. I mean we'll be We'll be
cash and chips all over the place. Yes, yes, we'll
(17:04):
be able to buy our own islands. We'll be hanging
out with the Clune Dog off Lake Como. Come on.
I also want Yeah. I think we should have yeah
yeah as a good one. And METS can trademark METS.
I don't know, it might have been I gotta think
they've already got that one, but but it's Metropolitans, so
maybe we could just get next they weren't smart enough
(17:25):
to trademark and it is the METS if there was
no person in business operations in the structure. Since yeah,
this is like when you when you hear guys from
bands that have broken up going, why does the lead
singer get to tour with the band's name. I don't know.
We we didn't think he can make any money if
(17:46):
we weren't in the band with him. That's fine, so
we so we signed it. We didn't care. That's why
this guy's making all the money because uh Gaxell could
tour with guns and Roses and Slash out to tour
with Slash and everybody else. Oh no, we did. We
didn't think we could do that. We let the guy
have the name worked out for him. Yeah, can't have it,
can't have it now, that's it. Well, and obviously when
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you start you say, all right, who gets the most
the biggest percentage, Well, the guys that write the songs
usually your lead singer and either your lead guitarist or
your rhythm guitar. That's whoever's on book. Sometimes the bassist.
I mean, maybe he's got some love to or maybe
you all just get equal rights. But let's face it,
most bands, that's not the same, and that's not the
(18:28):
way one thing get signed. It's like, why did you
signed the band? Well, I thought their lead singer was dynamic,
which means he's getting a bigger cut of the deal.
Of course, when the band blows up, he'd laughing, going yeah,
I'll keep jouring, but I've got uh, I got the
name rights and whatever else. And look at Pink Floyd.
Roger Waters went and did his thing, Gilmore. I mean,
that was in the chords forever. And then they finally
had to pay him. Roger Water is a huge amount
(18:51):
of money to keep using the names like okay, And
that's when they started getting back together. But they wouldn't
pass the midway part of the stage. That would be
on stage together, but they would not stand next to
each other. Did a couple of those appearance. That was
my favorite. That was my favorite, that that Roger Waters
couldn't go past this midway part of the stage and
David Gilmour couldn't go past the other part. They stayed
on their own side of the stage. We don't get together,
(19:12):
we don't stand together at all. You don't cross into
my area. I don't cross in your area. That's the
definition of staying together. For the money. I mean that's hey,
we need the money so bad, But alright, I'm still
We're gonna put this piece of tape down the center
of the stage, and you don't go over this line.
I don't go over the other that's rock and Roll.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live from the
(19:34):
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Today was a big day in
the NFL and we can tell you how this drama
with Daniel Snyder and the Washington commanders is going to end.
It's been a big day the last couple of days.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell testifying today in front of Congress
about the Daniel Snyder situation, the ongoing scrutiny into the
(19:55):
watching commander's workplace culture, and accusations from various women employees
about sexual harassment by team executives. This has been a
pretty big story over the course of the past few months,
and now it looks like maybe we could be getting
answers from Roger Goodell and company and how this is
going to wind up ending for Daniel Snyder. Daniel Snyder,
who says, Oh, I'm traveling, I can't I can't testify here,
(20:17):
and many other people who would be testifying for this
in front of Congress are off in Italy and different blots.
We can't we're out of the country. We can't testify.
But the big money quote today comes from Roger Goodell.
Before we get into the ridiculousness of it. The big
money quote from Roger Goodell when he was on the
stand today, asked about many lawmakers, about many different things.
(20:40):
He was asked if he could remove Daniel Snyder as
owner of the Washington Commanders after all of these allegations
have been levied, and Roger Goodell's response was, quote, I
don't have the authority to remove him. All right, let's
stop for one second. He let's stop for one second.
Does Roger Adele have the universal right to say, Hey,
(21:04):
Daniel Snyder, I'm removing you. No, of course he doesn't.
He can't do that. But he could call for a vote,
because you need twenty four the thirty two owners to say, hey, uh, yes,
we're okay with removing Daniel Snyder as owner of the NFL.
He has the power to put that into play. He
has the power to make this conversation happen, and he
has not. He's gone from every other day of the year,
(21:28):
the other three sixty four days of the year. It's
I'm the commissioner of the NFL. What I say is
the law today it was I'm just the commissioner. I mean,
I really, I don't I don't have a lot of power.
I mean, I know what you're asking me for. You
gotta ask Jerry Jones some of these other guys. I'm
just the commissioner. I can't do it every other day,
is ay? What I say? Oh today is I'm just
I'm just the commissioner. What what? What do you want
(21:48):
me to do? Look, this is a ridiculous show, um,
and it's embarrassing for the NFL that here is a
this is a very big story about a toxic workplace culture.
And you have many accusations and the NFL is sad
around and just said, hey, Daniel Snyder, don't just don't
be around for a while. Uh, you know, as as
as ridiculous as it is, I'll tell you how this
(22:08):
is gonna wind up ending. This will end with the
NFL forcing Daniel Snyder or convincing him that he has
to sell the team. That's how this is gonna end.
And they will give him a year to sell the
team and he will sell it. There will be a
they'll be blind bids for it, which will also increase
the amount of value of the franchise. Because if you're
seeing things, the Washington commanders can go for what four billion,
(22:31):
five billion, six billions. Someone wants wants to own a
football team. Uh. This is how it's gonna eventually wind up.
Ending is that he doesn't get removed from from power
and remove from running Washington commanders. Is that he will
be convinced, Hey, you have to sell the team, and
that will be the agreement. This is this is how
we go forward. This is embarrassing for the NFL because
many of the of the um comments today by the
(22:55):
House committee that investigated the NFL over this situation with Washington.
We're really bad. Hey, the NFL conducted a shadow investigation.
They allowed this uh sham situation to continue. It is
on them. It is their fault. This was not a
good day for the NFL. So eventually that's how it's
going to end. It's gonna be, Hey, you gotta sell
(23:16):
the team. This is just really bad. We're not protecting
the shield. We gotta move on. You tried to give
Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen up as a sacrificial lamps. Okay,
it's not working. We just got slapped around by Congress here.
So yeah, this is how it's gonna end with Daniel
Snyder selling the team. Well, the fact that he denied
the ability on an invitation to come in and then
(23:38):
has to be subpoena is dumb. The fact that anybody
that has worked in the organization for the last two
years are writing a character witness type letters releasing them
to the media to say, oh, no, I mean the
last two years. I mean I'm Ron Rivera. I was
hired with the directive of here's where we're going. It's like,
what are we doing? Like you basically raising your hands
(24:01):
saying yeah, no, absolute trash, but look we're changing. Like
that doesn't erase everything that's in the past, right, Jason Wright,
Ron Rivera, everybody in the executive offices now can scream
until they're blue in the face of it's a different
world around here. Well, Daniel Snyder's still cutting checks saying
he's not running the day to day. Is anybody believing that,
(24:24):
I mean, really you no, No, my wife's gonna be
in charge and we won't talk about it at all. Yeah,
they're believing that. In Roger Goodell, sometimes he's got you
you love to say, hey, you know all the power
in the world, and then other times, hey, I'm just
the coach. Well he's doing that just a commissioner, I mean,
what do you want from me? So just a cloud show?
(24:45):
That was some of the the tone tenor of the
folks asking questions of the commissioner at times like all right,
it's obvious you don't like the NFL or past decisions
by the NFL. You're frustrated that the Washington football team
slide commanders have been terrible, uh for a long time,
whatever the case may bee. Uh. You know, at some
(25:05):
point you're still a professional as well, So I act
like you've been there. But for for Roger Goodell is
going up and he's got to be the guy, right,
that's why he gets paid his fifty million dollars sixty
million dollars a year. Uh, and he and he wears it,
you know. For Daniel Snyder, I think it's the other
owners have to make the decision, all right, is he's
(25:25):
still good enough to be in our club? Because really,
what's behind door number three is there? Right? What's in
the stacks of evidence that can continue to leak out
beyond the allegations that are in the public public sphere.
Right for him, I I still see him sitting there, Jason,
I don't, I don't. I don't think he goes quietly
into the good night. We may not go quietly, but
(25:48):
eventually that's how it's going to end. I mean, well,
he already gave up the name. I didn't think that
was gonna happen. Well he's trying. It's this is just
And they shouldn't have gone away from the football team,
by the way, Well that would have been better. Comman'm
I'm kind of coming around the commanders a little bit.
I mean, I'm saying it more often. They make Russell
Crow his uh the Master and Commander should he should
(26:09):
have gotten his uh his okay, and maybe he should
trade your trademark, Master in Command. There's a picture of
me that they used the DVD. Wait, Frost, but you
didn't like Master and Commander? Which part of it? It
was like six hours long? It well, it was. There's
no short movies that are about, you know, hundreds of
years ago. They always have to be these law you know,
(26:30):
there's gonna be no brisk hour and a half movie
looking back at something in history. It's gonna be, Oh,
we need the scope of five hours to tell this story. Now,
I think people pretty much know what the eighteen hundreds
that we know what, they're all hour and a half.
You tell a better story, Get out of here. You
can give me six Titanic could have been a brisk
ninety minutes, right, just just t Can I just tell
(26:52):
you I've actually never seen it in its entirety Titanic, Really,
you've never seen the movie. I've probably seen it all
between Instagram and take and clips and obviously everybody's celebrating
the the styles and uh, well the majesty of Kate Winslet.
(27:13):
But the we won't tell you how it ends, no,
and well, and that's one of the reasons I protested
about the movie existing. Well, the thing is that I
do the end before. But listen, I'll tell you exactly
how it ends. Because look, they catch Leo. They catch
him doing a lot of drugs, and he falls outside
his car and and they get into his business and
(27:34):
they wind up catching him and he goes to jail,
and then John Hammond shows up, takes stuff from that
stone and creates Jurassic and then he fights a bear
and he loses, and they carry him around for a
long time. And that's where the whole heart of the
Ocean comes from, because they carry him all the way
to the ocean, and and then they let him go
into the ocean, and then he fights the bear. Now,
since we've brought all the poor, we already fought. But
(27:56):
we already said he fought the bear. Yeah, well you
fight him again because then he fights Bill the Butcher. No, no,
that's in. That's in. That's in Titanic too. Yeah. Bill
the Butcher would be a nice addition to me as well.
There's no question but mentioning Russell crowd just because we're there.
Uh is a guy that complains about comic book movies
or whatever. He was Joel and now he's showing up
(28:18):
in Zeus so he can shut up. Wow, he's showing
up in the new UH four movie as Zeus. Come on, man,
all right, like the check shut up? All right? Well
it's okay, you look Love and Thunder is supposed to
be pretty good. Well, I expect it to be funny.
And if it's late night and you've been able to
do a little elbow bending, or maybe it's white TV,
(28:42):
so you know it's gonna be fun. He's you know,
if if if this isn't a fun movie, would take
a white TV. I I cringe at what the next
Star Wars movie is gonna wind up being Hey, I
mean the Canobe ended today. I haven't seen it yet.
I just I watched the first Yeah, I'm gonn to
spoil the whole damn thing because I just spoiled Titanic
(29:02):
for you. Yeah, you took that away from me. That's
what Doug say. Let a new Doug. Doug's dead, right, Doug.
That's Doug. Doug's over there. Oh Doug's dead. See, anytime
you meet somebody named Doug, the first thing he says, oh,
Doug's dead, and to see if they get it. And
then they look at me and go yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
get it. Or they say that guy's got problems. That's Doug,
(29:26):
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it looks like we're headed to overtime Game four of
(30:30):
the Stanley Cup Final, Colorado and Tampa Bay tied at
to a piece, less than twenty seconds left to go.
Either we're walking out of here too too brand new
Stanley Cup Final, or the lanch are gonna be one
win away from the Stanley Cup. And I you like
how I said Lance right and saying lanch and let
me saying dubs the other night, But I said lanch
does actually say lanch? I do the Lanch. I like
(30:54):
the Lanch, but like legitimately I think it is if not,
I just made it the thing the lanch. I mean
I saw someone in their timeline. I'm probably had no
home to Chicago in a couple of weeks. Uh. They
were at a South Side drinking establishment, and you had
options for you know what kind of vessel they bring
in India. So you want, you know, a tiki mug, right, Uh,
(31:16):
tiki cup full of your favorite booze. You could get
one in the shape of any of the Golden Girls
or dracks. Sure, there were many others in the picture.
I'd have gone just in a minute. Well, which is
why I got Blanche in. But I'll tell you what
the the the b Arthurn just looked like she really
(31:36):
ticked off they painted her face on there. I'm like,
that's probably the best drinking mug, because you know, folks,
or if they're approaching you, they're either looking to fight
or they really want to get to know you, because
you're the most interesting man in the room. Twitter and
Out about a Fresco Mike and swollen dome with the
NBA Draft tomorrow night, right right from the NBA following
(31:56):
right Sided, how about a big hot take on the
eve of the draft? Oh please? On Jonathan Givney's on
the Low Post podcast on ESPN. Earlier today, there was
a report that the Pacers had a good laugh over
the Lakers attempt to offload Russell Westbrook and Taylor Horton
Tucker and first round pick in exchange from Malcolm Brogden.
(32:17):
That was pretty good. Now the Pacers say Brogden is
not going anywhere, and again, according to Jonathan Givney on
the Low Post podcast, um, they got a nice chuckle
and said, no, thank you. We've got better deals on
the table than that if they want to offer them.
So let me give you this hot take for Russell Westbrook, right,
something that hasn't been broached yet, because either it's been
(32:39):
trade Russell Westbrook or keep Russell Westbrook. How about this?
Why don't you, John Wallam, if he's holding you back
that much? And obviously the Lakers want to get rid
of him, they're trying to get rid of him. If
you want to get rid of him, John Wallam, And
by that, I mean we're gonna agree. You're gonna get paid,
and you're not gonna play for us this year, and
(33:01):
we're gonna give more playing time to younger players. We
want to give playing time to This will mean more
time for Taylor Horton Tucker. It will be more time
for Kendrick Nunn, more time for the younger players that
they're going to need. Because when you're the Lakers and
you know that you can't make any moves to make
the team better, why are you putting in a progress
stopper like Russell Westbrook? So how about that's the solution
(33:21):
for for the Lakers. You sent him down and you're
under that agreement, and when as things go on during
the season, things can change. You can trade him at
some point if you really want to or if you
want to play him because he either learns his lessons
where you get desperate because you just think, maybe think
something will change. How about that for the option that
the Lakers and and and Westbrook agree to a decision
(33:43):
that he's just not going to play. The Lakers are
gonna pay him, just like you saw in with John
with John Wall for the last year and some other
players too. We're gonna pay you. You're here and then
eventually you're gonna be on a different team, but you're
just not gonna play. He's a progress stopper, So why
do it? Let's see how do I best put this?
I like your your idea. No, give me, give me
a normal thing. See, I like your idea in theory,
(34:06):
but I was the Germanic pause, like I was talking
a W W E ring in theory. But remember we
are dealing with a mom and pop shop with the
Los Angeles Lakers. Look one of the greatest brands in
sports entertainment, no question about it, but we know how
they operate. If they're not getting any actual output from him. Now,
(34:30):
one would argue they could probably look at a plus
minus on the court of you know, replacements at this point,
uh and say it's a better deal. Uh. They would say,
we're not getting any value or statistical output from a
guy we're paying forty seven million dollars. There's no chance
in now. And that's the problem organizationally, Like if you
had someone else, you know, at the at the big
(34:53):
wheel and making things go to go back to your
Titanic and they can avoid the iceberg. No, the icebergs
already on all right. Russell Westbrook is already there. He
has already in the building. So you can't avoid that
iceberg and put it off to the wayside. You've got
to deal with it. And that means either finding some
unwitting soul to take him off your hands, or you
(35:15):
still have him in the rotation and you figure out
how to make it work. If you're Darvin Ham, maybe
he can get through to him in a way that uh,
your former coach, the Great Frank Vogel could not. Nope,
John Wallam, you're gonna sit. Who's gonna he's really gonna
change it. He's not gonna change for anybody. I'm not
gonna change. He's not gonna No one's gonna change. No.
(35:36):
But that just means he only plays when Lebron sits out.
You've got twelve minutes at night and shoot your head off.
When Lebron is not playing, that's he'll be in the
line up. What about the other nights you're not happening.
We got more on this and more in another big
NBA story coming up next. This is Fox
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