June 25, 2022 • 45 mins
Jason and Mike react to game 5 between the Lightning and Avalanche in the chase for the Stanley Cup, Kevin Durant sounds like he's ready to either move on from the Nets or away from Kyrie Irving, and Ric Bucher - FOX Sports 1 NBA Analyst joins the guys!
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The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio. Greetings,
Happy Friday, Welcome inside the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. You Aaron Rodgers. We have extra
doses of fun available tonight on a day when we
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need extra doses of fun action we do. Did you
bet on that You told me you were going to
lay a big bet on that game tonight. I laid
one and a half though, So whennip PEG's letting me
down for remaining and a half, you've been on Winnipeg
over the Hamilton Tiger Cats. Tiger Cats with the ball
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moving across midfield as we speak. That's when you call
and you want to place a bet and they go
Winnipeg Winnipeng Hockey Winnipeg, Winnipeg. Right, you said, Winnipeg, Winnipeg, Winnipeg, Winnipeg, Winnipeg, Winnipeg.
Let me find, let me find, hang on, Winnipeg, let
me go. Wait, it's down to the bottom. Hang on,
it's wait, it's past MLS, it's past NWSL, it's past
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horse racing. Oh. Here I found it. I found Winnipeg.
Here we go, Winnipeg. Oh, I'm sorry. We don't. We
don't take bets on that game. There's no television. It's
too bad. Well there is. I'm watching it right now.
Come on, it's Friday night football. Yes, and let's go.
Yes and Frostburg. You know your your job here at
Fox Sports Radio is contingent on the Dodgers closing out
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this game against the Braves. The Mets already one, Okay,
get that? Did he cry like Freddie Freeman sixteen times? Hey,
we're gonna hear from crying Freddie Freeman in a couple
of minutes. That what we call him from now on,
crying for es. I mean, I'm all four of your emotions.
I'm a man of the people. I'm a nit man
of the new millennium. I I know you know you
could be emotional and you can cry, but my god, yeah,
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wouldn't you be happy? Well that's that. You know what,
don't you be laughing your ass off if you got
out of Atlanta and you don't do the broken voice
what he gets very emotional. I had to had to
leave Atlanta. I had We'll get to Freddie Freeman in
a second, but yes, yes, the Dodgers up for one
over Atlanta. Right now the game everybody is watching and
they got a picture right now, who's uh not looking
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too good at coming off the mountain? Is Jansen going
to pitch for both teams in the ninth inning? Because
I really want I really want to see him pitch
for both sides of where the Dodgers jersey and the
time and then I really want to see him do
But I got some boosters for you if you need.
The Stanley Cup is in the building? Are we going
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to say? I always love that the Stanley Cup is
in the building. I always love when they's like, we're
gonna have a champion and the Stanley Cup is in
the building. No one ever says the Larry O'Brien Trophy
is in the building, not until the final minute, because
they don't like saying Larry Cup has its own, uh
social media accounts. I mean, come on, Rob Manford's commissioners
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trophy is in the building, but are we going to
see the Stanley Cup get awarded. Well, the Lightning are
twenty minutes away from extending this series and sending it
Back's a three one lead for Colorado, but the Lightning
have a two one lead right now at Kutrov scoring
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on a power play. Corey Perry with the says I'm
her interview with Corey Perry right after he won the
Cup with the Ducks when he came to my show
on on All Night. Corey Perry is seventy four years old,
and he assisted on the second goal of the night
for the Lightning. Again, a to one lead they have
after the second period, but the Stanley Cup is in
the building. The Cup is in the building. Pretty wild
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first two periods, A lot of opportunities for the Avalanche,
lot of energy, a lot of misdirection and shots. I'm
in hell they had one go straight through Vassilevski's legs
and the look on McKinnon's face like, oh oh that
was glorious. That was that was megging someone times a
million whites in the Stanley Cup Final in a potential
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clinching game. I'll tell you that was one of the
great reactions of all time. That should be a gift.
Well and this and this is a game everybody has
to watch because you know, it's Friday night, so Apple TV.
That's all the baseball. This guy just got picked out
of the end zone. Though I gotta watch hockey? Are
I gotta watch the CFL. It's Tiger Cats. Tiger Cats
attempt a field goal. It's no good, dude, gonna run
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it out now. He kneels in the end zone. Quarterback
comes out, tries to fire it up interception. Is that
as what a great read? Wait? Wait? Wait? Is that
all the same play that you it was? It was
like three, but I've had like nineff. I mean, they're
celebrating twenty five seasons. What do you want from me?
It is? It is I CFL has been around for
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a long time though, I mean, I think it's five
years with the network, but they just put up to
twenty five year graphic. That means something. When it's twenty
five years they've been on, They've been televised. Candy, Oh
very nice, Iggy pop reference. There's no way we're getting
that at the end, because two days in a row
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we got iggy pop into the ty shirt thinks iggy
pop is like some kind of candy that a kid
in the nineties, Right, Oh, I got iggy pop. Yeah,
iggy pop is really good. There's chocolate, there's raspberry, there's coconut.
Iggy pop is fantastic. But as I said, extra doses
of fun tonight. So let's hear from Freddie Freeman. Freddy,
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how do you feel about being back in Atlanta? Oh?
Not fair. He's a boss baby. We have to start
talking like Alec Bald when I'm out of here. Lemon, listen.
We don't need the baby. When we actually have real
Freddie Freeman crying, we don't need to fake you know,
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we actually have real Freddie Freeman crying. In his return
to Atlanta with the Dodgers turned to even looked up
and people then who had been with for fifteen years.
It's really hard to put into words. I can't even
look up at you guys because I don't know if
I'm gonna get through it. So I was doing pretty
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good about it an hour ago. Gosh, I don't know
all the emotions. It's hard to put into words. I'm
just happy to be back. I was waiting for to
say I apologize to Mike's mom and to Josh's mom.
They sounded like blank you akuna. Uh that that would
have been a great way to end it. I'm so sorry.
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I'm so sorry, blank you. He gets something, he walks off,
but look, Freddie Freeman and it's look former m v
P wins the World series with the Braves coming back
to Atlanta for the first time. It is very emotional
and you don't do the broken voice now. And I
get it because I'm a crier too. You wouldn't think that,
but I had a couple of couple of daughters. I
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mean like today, I mean, you know, like there's a
lot of stuff going on. I mean we'll look at
you know when then when when when when Goose hits
the canopy and he falls out? No, it's it's time.
It really has affected T Shirt ever since it. He's
not never been the same. Every other word out of
Tight Shirt is Goose. That's everything he says. His Uh.
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It really truly did impact him on a heavy level.
And I appreciate that about him, that empathy is is
a big deal because because I'm gonna cry when we
get to the end of the season with any of
the girls I coach. I love all the girls, I
love the families. I cry when I talk about them
and and give speeches, and I do because I I
just feel that way about them. I call them all.
They're my softball daughters, are my soccer daughters, and and
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and they're all such great kids. And I get to
that point where I just do, and I tell the
parent I gonna listen. I'm gonna cry at various intervals
right now, just so you know. And they're like okay.
And I can tell someone looking at me like wow,
and and I think, this is this is you know,
this is it. This the relationship I have with them,
and it's a it's a big deal. See in them
become better players and and become better friends and enjoy
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the game and everything, and it's it's awesome and I
feel that way. But this is like, this is like
me crying if at the end of the season the
parents said, hey, you sucked as a coach. We don't
want you around anymore. The brave booted Freddie Freeman out,
they said, after we won the World Series and dude,
you were the m v P a year ago. Um,
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we're gonna lowball you for your contract, and as soon
as you say you're going someplace else, we are gonna
sign your replacement a day later. I don't know how
Freddie Freeman is that upset about that. This is where
I want to walk in and say, blank you, blank you,
and blank you a kuna and blank you, and you
and you, and I can't wait to kick your ass tonight.
This is what's shocking for me, because that's just that's
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just how I feel that. I I get that I
have friends and everything, you know, playing, but I'm still
in the middle of my major league career. I got
a long way to go. I put the Dodgers now,
and you know we're gonna be in the playoffs every
year for the next decade. I'm gonna play to him
fifty years old, and and and so the whole sadness
thing I really don't get because he's going back to
a place that after twelve years and everything he gave
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him and he was still a great player, they decided
we can do better or we and and that's always
a big thing whenever you hear we can do better,
or they tell you we can do better by the
lack of the contract are for you get That's gonna
be my overwhelming emotion. And that's what I'm gonna take
with me. I can't wait to come back and stick
it to the braves. I really do. That's what I'm thinking.
If I'm Freddie Freeman. And so I was really surprised
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at the emotion of I don't know how I'm gonna
get past here. I'm gonna do this. I get you
didn't want to leave, but they didn't watch him in
and the and and there's no better landing to tell
you it's wrong when you go to the best franchise
for the past ten years in Major League Baseball, whether
you just won the World Series with and they said
no and instead, Okay, where do I go from here?
It's not like you have to go play with the
A's sorry about that. I can't go to Oakland anymore
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or Las Vegas. You know that's all you gotta go
play there? You know, you know you don't go to Colorado,
you know you know, no, You're You're going to the Dodgers,
the pre eminent franchise in Major League baseball. That's that's
a that's a way to win the divorce. I don't
get why he was so he was crying. I would
have been the exact opposite, Like I got time to
cry at the end of my career. When I think
back through everything, I get that. But now, no, no,
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now I'm coming here to kick your ass. Yeah, I
mean I get it once, but like this was continual.
The other thing is on on many levels all of
what you said. You know, they they found a new
guy and and made the deal or whatever else. But
if the reports are correct, and this is always where
you know, where's the myth verse and legend versus reality?
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That he balked at a five year deal. Whatever the
money is put aside, but the sticking point was that
he wanted the sixth year and that's what the Dodgers
gave him. If you really wanted to be there, and
it was really that your choice. This is just like
Lebron and Dwyane Wade with the decision, crying and letting
everybody know. We didn't expect it to be like this.
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We didn't think people would be mad at us for
stacking the deck and changing the cards of the NBA forever.
We didn't think that was gonna happen. How dare they
know this? It's the same same process here. You made
a decision. You went and took the hundred sixty two
million because you wanted the sixth year. Otherwise you guys
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probably could have gotten to a deal. Would you have
been you know, felt complete and the whole. Maybe maybe not,
but you would have been in Atlanta, You would have
still been with all these people that clearly it's vexing
you that you're not still there. Uh And hopefully he
gets past it, goes on, has a great series Dodger
hands like Frostburg everybody else looking around. I mean, when
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David Vasse, who's never had a bad thing to say
about the Dodgers, our buddy over at a M five
seventy l a Sports Dodger insider host pre and post
game and a lot of a lot of work with
the Dodgers on Instagram and all these other things. He
he he tweeted out, I have nothing to say because
he couldn't say a kind thing about it, right, He
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had to hold his tongue over what he was seeing
and hearing in all of the pre game and all
of the build up to this game. And so you know,
when he's not sticking up for Freddie and coming to
his defense, that tells you everything you need to know, okay,
because that's it. That's the This is a guy that
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builds up the squad building. He's critical, I give a
day of his fantastic and that he is brutally honest
about things without you know, sounding like a bitter long
term voice in the market. We've seen plenty of those
through the years, but you know, in this case, he
was just like, yeah, I got nothing. So you know
for Freddy Freeman, Yeah, yeah, you had to. You had
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your choice, and you know, but still but but you
had the braves off. And look, we're getting into the
millions of dollars, but it's about you know, the athletes,
it's about their respect. And they first offered him five
years hundred thirty five million. Freddy was like, no, that's
forty million dollars below my market value, which, yeah, you
want to get your market value. Even if you're talking
about would you rather have a hundred and thirty million
dollars or a hundred and eighty million dollars? I ask
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you so, but it's thirty million dollars. It's that's sixth times,
but it's but it's five five. And he says no.
And he comes back with two offers of how about
one seventy five for six? They said no, one sixty
five for five. They said no. They said about one
forty for five, which is, you know, just up five
million from the last one. And he said no, and
and and this is okay, this is what we're telling you.
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We're not gonna go crazy. And right after this happens,
we're gonna go get another guy. I get him. But
they offered him five it's not like they said, but
one in the but here's a two year deal because
we think at age thirty four, you're turning into you
year guaranteed one year. But you're talking about you know,
we're talking about this is what my value should be,
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and this is what the Dodgers want to give me.
And the Braves are saying, no, wait, this you who
I've been with for twelve years and I've I've I've
given so much. I've won the m v P, I've
won the World Series, and this is what another team
wants to give me. How about we get close to that?
And the Braves said, no, so I get it. I
got I would be really but you could find a
way to be pissed. I get happens that way, and
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and and and I get it the Braves, Yeah, we're
only willing to go so far for you. Hey, I've
seen it, take it or leave it, offer or too.
During my many travels in my work careers, I got
salary capped at one place. That's kind of funny, but
it's but you know, I get I get the vexation
and the anger and and in this case, the sadness
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to it. But you know, the third or fourth time
that you crack a microphone, that's that's it, man, that's it.
It's it's it's timing to let it go. Hey, you
shed your tears for all of those beat reporters you
don't get to see every day. I get it. Here's
take your hugs, Twitter and out about a fresca. Mike
gets swollen on The Jason Smith Show with my best
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friend Mike Harmon. No, I would have said, blank you,
blank you and yet especially oh sure I would have
you might have had words for a kuna. Yeah, I
would have say I I said, I found that podcast.
I listened to it, I put typed in the Google translator.
I know what you said about me? I got it? There,
I got it. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten
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pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Could we be getting ready
for a Kevin Durant sweepstakes? According to Zach Low from
his NBA podcast earlier today, He has said that NBA
teams are not quite preparing for Kevin Durant to want out,
but they are putting their ducks in a row just
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in case he requests a trade in the next week. Obviously,
the story the last few days has been centered around
Kyrie Irving. Is Kyrie going to opt into his final
year of his contract with the Nets? Or is he
going to opt out? Is he gonna opt out and
get a new deal. This has been the story for
the past few days, and Kyrie has until Wednesday to decide.
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Kevin Durant has said he is staying out of the
contract talks at this quote perilous time for the Brooklyn Nets. Yes,
it's perilous. What's going to happen? Where can I make
forty million dollars. Are they gonna get dissolved? What's happening? Hey?
You know what, dude, if they leave, you could dissolve
the Nets. Do you really need the Nets? If? If that, now,
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of course not move him to Vegas. Now, the Knicks
are gonna get Brunson, They're gonna get a lot of
good players. Ah, the Knicks are on the way up now, Durant,
Durand they moved the franchise back to Seattle. Now or
Durant's size. Hey, I was just kidding when I didn't
want to go to the to the next I'll go
to the Knicks. Now, I'll go there. Now It's okay.
So during it is staying out of the talks the
perilous time, and potentially he could request a trade if
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he doesn't want to stay with Brooklyn. According to reports,
he wants to know that if they do move on
from Kyrie, that there is a potential championship plan in
place to keep the team competitive to win a title.
Right now, a lot of stuff there, as John palm
ROSSI would say, a lot of stuff to unpack, a
lot of stuff to wynpack. So let's start with the
first part of it that he is staying out of
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the Kyrie Irving talks at this quote, perilous time. It
was a perilous time in the galaxy. The empire had
ruled for so long, and a small band of rebellion
we're cast aside to the furthest reaches of the galaxy.
It was a perilous time. Uh So, the fact that
he said he is staying out of the Kyrie Irving talks,
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this means, hey, I'm okay if Kyrie goes, even even
though I'm friends with the guy, I'm okay if Kyrie
Irving goes. If you don't think we can move forward
and be a championship team with Kyrie, fine, if you
want to get rid of him, I get it. I
saw it. The last couple of years have been like
I wasn't a big fan all the times he didn't play.
He's a friend of mine, we came here together. We
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thought it was gonna work. I'm all right if you
move on from him. This is what he means. I'm
staying out of It means I'm okay, because if he
really wanted Kyrie to stay, it would be we need Kyrie,
he needs to stay. I'm gonna talk to him instead.
He has said, Hey, I'm staying out of this man.
This is him, it's his business. And it's nice when
you can choose how involved you want to be with
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a situation like that, like, oh I love this guy, man,
I'm involved with anything. Oh hey, I'm stepping out because
I can't get involved in your business. So that this
is this is gonna be my way Like a Vegas dealer.
I just dust my hands and say good night, everybody,
take it easy. This is how Kevin Durant is doing it.
So the first thing is he is eminently okay if
the nets say goodbye to Kyrie Irving even though the
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guys are friends and they wanted to come play there
and thought they're gonna build a championship team and they're
not even close. I do like the two things. Number One,
that my Vegas Blackjack dealer analogy has seeped deep into
your recesses of your brain to be used. So that's good. Uh,
that's good for the show. Good synergy word I hate
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more than anything, but well use it here. Uh. And
then that's that's that's a that's a big company watchword. Man.
How often do you hear them. You said, we need
synergy from your side of the company and from this
side of the company. So we're gonna have a corporate
retreat where we're gonna play paintball against each other and
then we're gonna play pictionary at night and golf during
the day. So we're gonna we're gonna we need synergy.
Synergy has gotta happen. And they put their hands together
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that looks like their hands are crossing. We need synergy,
synergy in this company. The name of the company is Synergy.
We spell it s I N E R g I
E synergy like syndrome. Uh No, the line is right.
We we have to do what's best for the organization.
Uh So we have that going for us. Kevin Durant saying, hey,
we'll still be friends whatever happens. Like, okay, this goes
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back to the point we're making yesterday, and we'll talk
to Rick Buker in a bit of this is where
you get to be the leader, right, That's why you
came because you didn't You wanted credit. You wanted to
be you know, the designer, the master builder, as if
you were you know, either in the Ten Commandments with
Charlton Heston and played by the great Um no, my brain,
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my brain is not working. It'll come back now. It
was not Bob Hope. Um. He always played a bunch
of gangsters and stuff. And in this case, you know
he was a builder. Um, Rob I was thinking of No, no,
not Roberts. You said he was a builder. So what
famous builders are there besides Bob. Bob is more famous
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as a minion. But he got that going onto side
show Bob. We can we can do a lot of
famous Bob's silent Bob nice. But where the police are
they coming there? Just streaking down right now? You know
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this take is hot out the big hoses to come
take it down? Uh, Because that's the other lesson from today.
We had some really harsh societal lessons and that we
have the reminder in sports just say something dumb and
you'll trend. But the thing with Kevin Durant is is
that he left Golden State reportedly, right, that was the
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report that it was. He wanted more credit to Time
Finals m v P. But he was always gonna be
you know, sunned by Draymond Green, Steph Curry and and
Clay Thompson. Right, especially Draymond verbally uh that he was
never going to get the credit now obviously, you know,
going there, he took the as he said, I died
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on that day, right in that dramatic tweet storm that
he had on the night of the finals championship for
the Warriors this year. But went to Silicon Valley, made
a lot of friends, made a out of money, investments,
all finding good. Goes to Brooklyn to be the leader. Hey,
you know what, lead, here's your opportunity. Go into the
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powers that be and say, what the hell are we
doing here? Are we? Are we gonna? Are we gonna
do this? Are we going Sean McVeigh, are we gonna
run this back? And try to you know, get him
on board, give him a seat at the table and
build this, you know, knowing that Joe Harris is coming back,
like stop, stop, come on man, now, now you're getting
predictable with your Randy. I knew you were gonna say
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how long until Harmon says Joe, Joe Harris is Kyrie
or Katie or Lebron or George Mike, and you talk
about him like that's how good he is. I do
have to my daughter sitting here and listening to our
rants reminded me of Bob's Burgers just came out. Yet
I heard that was pretty good. I did. I did
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not see her, but I heard it was good. I'm
starting to watch the show a little bit. I dig it. Okay,
you it's a snarky humor um which Fox animated shows
have always been known. But for Kevin Durant, here's your
chance to lead. You can leave, sure, but what are
you gonna get? Well, more more fodder for your new
media campaigns, but more derision and more questions about your
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career and what really matters to you? You know? The
thing is, and this is this is a proof right here,
because I just mentioned how Kevin Durant is okay with
the Nets moving on from Kyrie, even though they're really
good friends. They're best friends, even though they're best friends,
and they came to Brooklyn to win a championship and
to basically at some point you knew they were gonna
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take over the franchise. They're gonna buy out Josiah and
they were gonna run things. Um, this is why getting
in into bed with friends and working with friends doesn't
always work, all right. The Heatles wasn't really funn and
and that happens in real life too. It does, it does.
It's not just snorts, it's it's not it's I don't mean,
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what do we do last night? Oh my god, your boyfriend?
But I mean it works both ways. No, but look, look,
the heatles wasn't really well thought out right. This was
Lebron and Wade and Bosch at the Olympics going hey, man,
wouldn't be cool if we played together? Yeah, hey, let's
do it? And it was precarious for a while. You've
seen this in previous incarnations of NBA teams that they
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have tried, that they have tried to. Let's all work together.
Wouldn't it be great if we played in the same team.
You and I are friends. I'd love to play with
my friends. It doesn't always work. It's sometimes it does.
Sometimes it does, but it's hard to hold friends accountable,
especially when you need to achieve. It's hard to coexist
in a friendly space when you need to achieve. Having
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a startup company with three of your best friends sounds
like a great idea. But when one of them figures
I can just do whatever because my friends got it, well,
that's gonna be a little bit of dice nous that
goes on between the two. There's gonna be some upset feelings. Right,
if you decide to go into a business venture. Hey,
what we're gonna do is we're gonna manufacture purple shorts
and actually have cooling elements. Send them. Oh that sounds great.
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People are gonna buy it. Um. If it doesn't work,
there's going to be bad feelings and it's going to
be difficult because it's hard to hold your friends accountable
and again, it's hard to coexist in a friendly space.
That's the two biggest things about being in in business
with your friends. And Kyrie Irving is the last friend
I would work with. He's the last guy I would say, yes,
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I want to go into business with you. I would
know if he was gonna come into work. I wouldn't
know if he was working on what he was supposed
to work on. He would come in, I'd expect to
be working on something and he would say, Oh, I
I know I need to get those printing presses in.
But instead I bought a new car. Wait what Yes,
Oh it's great for me. I'm loving the new car.
What about the printing press? Yeah, I wasn't feeling the
printing presses. So if I bought a new car for me,
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he's the last friend that I would say, Oh yeah, yeah, hey,
you and I, let's let's get together. Let's go. We're
gonna be millionaires. Last guy I would get in with.
And that's what Kevin Durant is finding out that when
you want to go team up, sometimes it works. Sometimes
it's Sometimes being with friends is a good idea, sometimes
it's not. When Lebron teamed up with Dwyane Wade, Dwyane
Wade was the one who said, this is my team,
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but I understand now it's Lebron's team. I will take
on that role of one A and they were very lucky.
Dwyane Wade wanted to do that because that was one
of the big reasons why the Heatles were able to
win and win how they did. But it doesn't always
happen that way, and so yes, they got lucky. But
the norm is what went on and what happened to
the Nets well, and you saw it happened that way
with Steph Curry bringing in Kevin Durant. See, so he
(26:34):
saw it work. Man, he was there and then he
didn't like but you know, they There's two things, right.
It's the working with friends, like can I get about
like online? You know, there's all these communities and trading cards,
you know as a collect by sell whatever that you know, Hey,
can I get about if you've done a transaction with me?
(26:54):
And some of the guys like, yeah, you know, you
took care of business pretty fast. Other guys, yeah, you
were slow handed. I was wondering if you were trying
to find a substitute because you liked the version and
copy of the card I bought better that you had
in your you know, in a collection. You were working
another deal at the same time, so you have that.
The other is, you know, let's let's just go back
to uh, the greatness of pulp fiction. My name is Paul.
(27:18):
This between y'all. That's kind of where Kevin Durantis at
this point. I got nothing. I got no cloud here.
What do you mean, I'm just Kevin Durands. I'm only
that's like Roger Goodell. I've only commissioned at the NFL.
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will welcome in Rick Buker with two very simple words.
Nix yo, nix yo, conveyance yo, protecting pick yo. What
are we doing? Yo? We're getting everybody, Rick, We're getting
Jalen Brunson. We're We're getting everybody. It's happening. Everybody. Run around.
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Look busy, looks like you're doing something. See we're very industrious.
All right, what did you make? We didn't they get anything?
We're just busney. We're busy moving things. We're doing make
you think happen? Well, they got to put out a
long press release that had a lot bunch of lion
items do it? And like I was though, I was
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not fully aware of this. Um, but Leon Rose has
not Uh, he has not talked to the media in
person since the preseason and before and after he's never spoken.
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Is he reliving like Joseph Condrad's Heart of Darkness? Like? What? What? What? What?
The hell? Again? We come back to nix Yo, We're
back to where Rick makes sense of this for me here?
How about me out? Oh? You know, I don't know
whether to be uh, incredibly flattered that you think I
(29:57):
can make sense out of it or insulted that you
would actually put me on the spot and asked me
to do the impossible. I will say this, it's it's
I get what the thinking was in terms of they're
going after Jalen Brunson. You gotta find a way to
get off the kemba walker. Um, you don't want to
(30:19):
just flip a pick, you know, flip your pick in
order to one not half to pay. I mean you
have a lottery pick. That's a pretty big number. I
don't know, it's probably at least or five million starting,
so you flip that along with um Kemba Walker's contract
and now you're opening up eighteen million or so, so
(30:40):
you get a little bit closer to being able to
uh to legitimately go after Jalen Brunson. And yet at
the same time you acquire other assets, other draft picks,
so it doesn't look like, hey, we just I mean,
it doesn't make you look as bad having to dump
Kemba's con track uh if you can have some camouflage
(31:03):
from the fact that it took a lottery pick or
it took a pick in order to do that, and
so so there's that. So I get, I get the
logic behind it, but it's it's putting all your eggs
in the jail in brunson basket. And if you don't
get him, um, I actually I don't think Malcolm Brogdon
(31:26):
is a is a bad fallback. But if you don't
get either one of those, then what are you looking
at and how have you accomplished anything? And that's the
that's the issue. Now I will say this, you know,
I don't need Stephen A or or uh or Spike
or anybody to like, you know, gnash their teeth and
(31:47):
pull their hair out. First of all, I have you
to do that, Jason, and to like, what were you
expecting them to do in this draft that was going
to chain your view of who they were? I know
Jade and Ivy was was was you know, everyone was
hoping that that that they were going to be able
to find a way to get him. But even if
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you add him, like, does that really change the narrative
on the Knicks right now? It does not. You have
a mid you have a mismatch, you have Town Thibodeaux
is a coach who is a good finishing coach with veterans,
and you have a young rebuilding program. Until you change that,
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there's no going forward here. And this is also the
problem with being the Knicks in that market is that
if you are going to rebuild, you need patients. And
when you have a Knicks fan like stephen A or
or you know, Knicks fans as visible as stephen A
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and and Spike, you have no chance of gaining the
patients that you need in order to build this. And
then you double down on it by Leon not ever
talking to the media or cultivating a relationship with the
media in New York. It might earn you some of
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that patients. It might get you some of those guys
saying Stephen at a shut up, like you're always whining
about the Knicks, Like leon Rose has a plan and
here it is, and I know what we know what
it is, and and you've got somebody who's waving the
flag for you. They're doing none of those things. So
like the idea that last night was somehow going to
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be the panacea for all the ills the Knicks, like
that's just unrealistic. But it seems to me like they're
not even trying to come up with a plan that
would make sense, that it's going to get them to
the next stage. And that that's probably the most distressing thing.
I don't have a problem. Look, it's easy to hit
the Knicks. We do it all the time. But they're
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making it a little too easy right now because there's
nothing even somebody who wants to say, hey, give them
a chance. They're not giving you anything to hold on
to latch onto that says this is why you should
give them a chance. Is it perhaps a calculated effort
because the nets are right there with them with all
sorts of craziness, turmoil and uh, well, lots of chaos
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for lack of a better term. So there, I mean,
we're not talking about it. We're bad, but look at
what you guys have. Yeah, well, or or it's you
know what. Okay, So we were not very good on
the court. But if you think the Nets can build
a dumpster fire, we can build a three story dumpster fire.
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Like our dumpster fire is much much bigger than theirs.
That's the only that's the only explanation that I have
because at least with the Brooklyn with the Brooklyn Nets,
and and look, the Nick, this is this is a
little bit like the Coca Hall of Pepsi thing. The Nick,
because of their brand alone, should never view themselves as
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being in competition with the Brooklyn Nets. That should not
be affective. No matter what the Brooklyn Nets do, it
should be this is what we're doing. This is what
our plan is. And I had I hate to say
it because I don't know that they'll ever get a solution.
This is this is probably the most I don't know,
depressing aspect of the next situation, which we all know,
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which is that as long as Jim Dolan owns the team,
nothing is going to change. Like I fully expected a
year from now, we're going to get another regime. Leon
Leon is gonna be out. We're having no GM. We're
certainly gonna have another head coach, and and we're gonna
start the sysiphus rolling the ball up the rock, up
the hill and waiting for it to roll back down,
(35:50):
honest and squash us all. And then we get somebody
else to roll it up again, and they would roll
back down and squashes us all and sysiphus Yo, sysiphus.
Like in a year. In a year, we're gonna be
talking about that. Yeah, yeah, that's what we're gonna But
the latest iteration and ultimately the guy who's making the
decisions on who does it and why they do it
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and how they do it is going to be Jim Dolan.
And we've we've seen this before. So it's that's the
most depressing aspect of this is like, I just don't
see how it's legitimately going to change. But I will
say this, I don't see anything changing until we get
to the next regime because I just it's still blows
(36:36):
my mind. I'm still wrapping my head around the fact
that Leon Rose is in a rebuilding situation and he's
found it to serve him best by not cultivating any
kind of relationship with the people that connect him to
his fan base, which is the fan base that you
need the patience of in order to have the time
(36:57):
to say, look, we've got these young peces and you
know Obi has got to earn his minutes and uh,
you know Mitchell's coming along and um, you know, just
go down the line. I mean, you just you need
to sell hope. And how do you how do you
sell hope if you never tell people what your plan is.
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That that just is with a with a press release,
I mean a press release that just kind of vaguely
says this is what we were thinking. Um, and this
is you know, these are our broad strokes. It just
I it is. It's nothing short of mouth seasons as
I see it. With with how you run a you
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run a an organization, especially in the media capital of
the world. Are you kidding me? I just I can't.
I can't get over it. Whatever whatever you think of
what Leon Rose is doing, the fact that he's he
feels it's beneath him to explain what he's doing so
the people who cover the team is mind boggling. See
I I dig your Sisyphus reference. I think it looks
(38:06):
more like um, the yodeling guy from that game on
the prices, right, and then you reset and come back
for more. So let's stay with the next Then, Uh,
you've got Kevin Durant, you know, new media and chirping
all over Twitter, showing up a podcast. Hey I'm not
you know, that's Kyrie's business and whatever else. I sent
(38:28):
this along to Jason. Uh, Kyrie Irving on bet online
a g uh next team? If not the Nets Lakers
are three to one? Would you really go play for
six million dollars and leave a lot of cash on
the table. Uh? He would if he's going to stay
true to this idea that he's not like we're all puppets,
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but he's not a puppet. Um, because if he stays
with the Brooklyn Nets, Brooklyn Nets are are are making
a point of saying, we're rest stink control of the
franchise once again. We handed it over to Katie and Kyrie.
No more of that. We're going to run the show
and Kyrie, if you want to stay, you're gonna stay
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in an incentive laden shorter term deal because we can't
give you a long leash. That's the deal, and and
and so um. If if Kyrie accepts that, then while
they're pulling strings and he's responding to it, his only
out really is to go to the Lakers or go
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someplace else, take whatever money they have to offer him,
and say it's not about the money. I just want
to play. And and I've said this elsewhere, said it
on first things first. But to me, that would do
the most to rehabilitate his image because much of what
he has said doesn't fit with what he does. This
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would be a truly uh magnanimous where it's like, it's
about playing the game, it's about not being told what
I have to do where I have to do it.
I'm gonna make the choice. I'm gonna go play here.
Short of that, if he if he decides to stay
in Brooklyn, if he decides to to compromise or acquiesced
(40:21):
to the new rule with the with the Brooklyn Nets,
then I don't want to hear anymore from him about
like media puppets and people taking direction and all that,
because he will demonstrate that he's no different. Alright, Rick, Lastly,
something we talked about a few minutes ago, you know
well Kenny Atkinson uh staying with the Golden State Warriors.
(40:43):
Steve Clifford goes back to Charlotte, which is great now
whether or not Kenny Atkinson is the coach and waiting
for Golden Steaks. We've seen this kind of thing before,
whether officially unofficially. It's hard for me to see Steve
Kerr coaching more than another year or two. And when
the Warriors championship win closes, he doesn't retire, but he
takes a sabbatical because he's coached a lot of high
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pressure games, he's synonymous with this dynasty. He's had health issues.
I see him go another year or two and then hey,
I'm stepping away. I recharge and then he comes back,
maybe goes back as the GM, he coaches someplace else.
It kind of follows that Phil Jackson type path. I
think that's a good bet um from everything I've heard,
both Bob Myers and Steve Kerr like this. It's a grind.
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I don't think people appreciate, especially what what Steve Kerr
went through the last three years and building this team up.
Now having Steve having having Steph Curry um certainly eases things.
If there's any crew that that he would run or
want to run with. Uh, it's this one. But it
kind of goes hand in hand with Steph, Like I
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don't his steps never talked about it, and I don't
haven't gotten any indication that he's looking to stop playing
anytime soon. But it did turn thirty four. Um, you
know how many years does he have left. He's got
a young family, he's got he's involved in a lot
of other things. Um, I know he loves to play
and compete, but you know how much longer does he
(42:14):
want to do it. I I think if he stepped
off in two three years, then Steve would two And
there's a chance there is a chance, depending on how
things go, that that Steve might do it sooner than that,
because I do know. You know, I've been told by
various people, and it's because sort of unsolicited they would
just bring it up there like, yeah, I think Steve
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and Bobb all they have a couple more years now.
This was going into prior to winning the championship, and
sometimes that can re energize you and give you motivation
you go get another one. But there's no question that,
um that you know, Rick Wealth stepped off like people look. Um,
I give Joe Lake all the credit in the world.
He has really evolved as an owner. Um. I loved
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when they when they want the championship and he basically said, Hey,
this is all Bob and Steve and the players. It
was it was the most humility that I've seen him show.
But Joe always thinks they're supposed to win every year.
In the last three years, he was grinding and pushing
and that gets you what they've gotten. And he's put
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his money where his mouth is. So I can't bolton
on any of that, but it does wear that constant
pressure does wear people out. And Steven Bob at the
point now where they're minted. I mean, they could take
a couple of years off and people would be knocking
their door down to get them back in the game.
So I think you're I think you're definitely onto something.
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And it certainly fits with everything that I've been hearing
around the league. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker and
that is at Rick Buker and potentially, if Steve Kerr
does step down, Matt Buker would be named the next
head coach of the Golden State Warriors. So if that happens,
you would have more unpreced access to that team. I well,
(44:03):
you would think, but I know what would not be surprised?
Would not be surprised? Dad? Who? Rick? Who? I hope
my people get back to you. How did you get
to remembers? Here? Yo? My son's doing all these interviews
(44:28):
with WOA. Why can't I get me? My dad? Dad? What?
Would you got more followers than you did? Nothing personal?
Here's the very part I can actually I can imagine
in my head. I can see those words coming out
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of Matt's mouth. Check out the latest the On the
Ball podcast with Rick Buker. Then there's the On the
Ball Squared podcast with Matt Puker, but on the Ball
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out on Twitter as well at Rick Puker. Rick is
always buddy. Appreciate you man. We'll talk to you next week.
My pleasure. You gotta guy. Thanks Rick,
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Happy Friday, Welcome inside the Jason Smith Show with my
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bet on that You told me you were going to
lay a big bet on that game tonight. I laid
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and you want to place a bet and they go
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Here we go, Winnipeg. Oh, I'm sorry. We don't. We
don't take bets on that game. There's no television. It's
too bad. Well there is. I'm watching it right now.
Come on, it's Friday night football. Yes, and let's go.
Yes and Frostburg. You know your your job here at
Fox Sports Radio is contingent on the Dodgers closing out
(01:48):
this game against the Braves. The Mets already one, Okay,
get that? Did he cry like Freddie Freeman sixteen times? Hey,
we're gonna hear from crying Freddie Freeman in a couple
of minutes. That what we call him from now on,
crying for es. I mean, I'm all four of your emotions.
I'm a man of the people. I'm a nit man
of the new millennium. I I know you know you
could be emotional and you can cry, but my god, yeah,
(02:10):
wouldn't you be happy? Well that's that. You know what,
don't you be laughing your ass off if you got
out of Atlanta and you don't do the broken voice
what he gets very emotional. I had to had to
leave Atlanta. I had We'll get to Freddie Freeman in
a second, but yes, yes, the Dodgers up for one
over Atlanta. Right now the game everybody is watching and
they got a picture right now, who's uh not looking
(02:34):
too good at coming off the mountain? Is Jansen going
to pitch for both teams in the ninth inning? Because
I really want I really want to see him pitch
for both sides of where the Dodgers jersey and the
time and then I really want to see him do
But I got some boosters for you if you need.
The Stanley Cup is in the building? Are we going
(02:57):
to say? I always love that the Stanley Cup is
in the building. I always love when they's like, we're
gonna have a champion and the Stanley Cup is in
the building. No one ever says the Larry O'Brien Trophy
is in the building, not until the final minute, because
they don't like saying Larry Cup has its own, uh
social media accounts. I mean, come on, Rob Manford's commissioners
(03:20):
trophy is in the building, but are we going to
see the Stanley Cup get awarded. Well, the Lightning are
twenty minutes away from extending this series and sending it
Back's a three one lead for Colorado, but the Lightning
have a two one lead right now at Kutrov scoring
(03:42):
on a power play. Corey Perry with the says I'm
her interview with Corey Perry right after he won the
Cup with the Ducks when he came to my show
on on All Night. Corey Perry is seventy four years old,
and he assisted on the second goal of the night
for the Lightning. Again, a to one lead they have
after the second period, but the Stanley Cup is in
the building. The Cup is in the building. Pretty wild
(04:05):
first two periods, A lot of opportunities for the Avalanche,
lot of energy, a lot of misdirection and shots. I'm
in hell they had one go straight through Vassilevski's legs
and the look on McKinnon's face like, oh oh that
was glorious. That was that was megging someone times a
million whites in the Stanley Cup Final in a potential
(04:27):
clinching game. I'll tell you that was one of the
great reactions of all time. That should be a gift.
Well and this and this is a game everybody has
to watch because you know, it's Friday night, so Apple TV.
That's all the baseball. This guy just got picked out
of the end zone. Though I gotta watch hockey? Are
I gotta watch the CFL. It's Tiger Cats. Tiger Cats
attempt a field goal. It's no good, dude, gonna run
(04:50):
it out now. He kneels in the end zone. Quarterback
comes out, tries to fire it up interception. Is that
as what a great read? Wait? Wait? Wait? Is that
all the same play that you it was? It was
like three, but I've had like nineff. I mean, they're
celebrating twenty five seasons. What do you want from me?
It is? It is I CFL has been around for
(05:11):
a long time though, I mean, I think it's five
years with the network, but they just put up to
twenty five year graphic. That means something. When it's twenty
five years they've been on, They've been televised. Candy, Oh
very nice, Iggy pop reference. There's no way we're getting
that at the end, because two days in a row
(05:33):
we got iggy pop into the ty shirt thinks iggy
pop is like some kind of candy that a kid
in the nineties, Right, Oh, I got iggy pop. Yeah,
iggy pop is really good. There's chocolate, there's raspberry, there's coconut.
Iggy pop is fantastic. But as I said, extra doses
of fun tonight. So let's hear from Freddie Freeman. Freddy,
(05:56):
how do you feel about being back in Atlanta? Oh?
Not fair. He's a boss baby. We have to start
talking like Alec Bald when I'm out of here. Lemon, listen.
We don't need the baby. When we actually have real
Freddie Freeman crying, we don't need to fake you know,
(06:16):
we actually have real Freddie Freeman crying. In his return
to Atlanta with the Dodgers turned to even looked up
and people then who had been with for fifteen years.
It's really hard to put into words. I can't even
look up at you guys because I don't know if
I'm gonna get through it. So I was doing pretty
(06:39):
good about it an hour ago. Gosh, I don't know
all the emotions. It's hard to put into words. I'm
just happy to be back. I was waiting for to
say I apologize to Mike's mom and to Josh's mom.
They sounded like blank you akuna. Uh that that would
have been a great way to end it. I'm so sorry.
(06:59):
I'm so sorry, blank you. He gets something, he walks off,
but look, Freddie Freeman and it's look former m v
P wins the World series with the Braves coming back
to Atlanta for the first time. It is very emotional
and you don't do the broken voice now. And I
get it because I'm a crier too. You wouldn't think that,
but I had a couple of couple of daughters. I
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mean like today, I mean, you know, like there's a
lot of stuff going on. I mean we'll look at
you know when then when when when when Goose hits
the canopy and he falls out? No, it's it's time.
It really has affected T Shirt ever since it. He's
not never been the same. Every other word out of
Tight Shirt is Goose. That's everything he says. His Uh.
(07:42):
It really truly did impact him on a heavy level.
And I appreciate that about him, that empathy is is
a big deal because because I'm gonna cry when we
get to the end of the season with any of
the girls I coach. I love all the girls, I
love the families. I cry when I talk about them
and and give speeches, and I do because I I
just feel that way about them. I call them all.
They're my softball daughters, are my soccer daughters, and and
(08:05):
and they're all such great kids. And I get to
that point where I just do, and I tell the
parent I gonna listen. I'm gonna cry at various intervals
right now, just so you know. And they're like okay.
And I can tell someone looking at me like wow,
and and I think, this is this is you know,
this is it. This the relationship I have with them,
and it's a it's a big deal. See in them
become better players and and become better friends and enjoy
(08:25):
the game and everything, and it's it's awesome and I
feel that way. But this is like, this is like
me crying if at the end of the season the
parents said, hey, you sucked as a coach. We don't
want you around anymore. The brave booted Freddie Freeman out,
they said, after we won the World Series and dude,
you were the m v P a year ago. Um,
(08:46):
we're gonna lowball you for your contract, and as soon
as you say you're going someplace else, we are gonna
sign your replacement a day later. I don't know how
Freddie Freeman is that upset about that. This is where
I want to walk in and say, blank you, blank you,
and blank you a kuna and blank you, and you
and you, and I can't wait to kick your ass tonight.
This is what's shocking for me, because that's just that's
(09:07):
just how I feel that. I I get that I
have friends and everything, you know, playing, but I'm still
in the middle of my major league career. I got
a long way to go. I put the Dodgers now,
and you know we're gonna be in the playoffs every
year for the next decade. I'm gonna play to him
fifty years old, and and and so the whole sadness
thing I really don't get because he's going back to
a place that after twelve years and everything he gave
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him and he was still a great player, they decided
we can do better or we and and that's always
a big thing whenever you hear we can do better,
or they tell you we can do better by the
lack of the contract are for you get That's gonna
be my overwhelming emotion. And that's what I'm gonna take
with me. I can't wait to come back and stick
it to the braves. I really do. That's what I'm thinking.
If I'm Freddie Freeman. And so I was really surprised
(09:51):
at the emotion of I don't know how I'm gonna
get past here. I'm gonna do this. I get you
didn't want to leave, but they didn't watch him in
and the and and there's no better landing to tell
you it's wrong when you go to the best franchise
for the past ten years in Major League Baseball, whether
you just won the World Series with and they said
no and instead, Okay, where do I go from here?
It's not like you have to go play with the
A's sorry about that. I can't go to Oakland anymore
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or Las Vegas. You know that's all you gotta go
play there? You know, you know you don't go to Colorado,
you know you know, no, You're You're going to the Dodgers,
the pre eminent franchise in Major League baseball. That's that's
a that's a way to win the divorce. I don't
get why he was so he was crying. I would
have been the exact opposite, Like I got time to
cry at the end of my career. When I think
back through everything, I get that. But now, no, no,
(10:34):
now I'm coming here to kick your ass. Yeah, I
mean I get it once, but like this was continual.
The other thing is on on many levels all of
what you said. You know, they they found a new
guy and and made the deal or whatever else. But
if the reports are correct, and this is always where
you know, where's the myth verse and legend versus reality?
(10:57):
That he balked at a five year deal. Whatever the
money is put aside, but the sticking point was that
he wanted the sixth year and that's what the Dodgers
gave him. If you really wanted to be there, and
it was really that your choice. This is just like
Lebron and Dwyane Wade with the decision, crying and letting
everybody know. We didn't expect it to be like this.
(11:19):
We didn't think people would be mad at us for
stacking the deck and changing the cards of the NBA forever.
We didn't think that was gonna happen. How dare they
know this? It's the same same process here. You made
a decision. You went and took the hundred sixty two
million because you wanted the sixth year. Otherwise you guys
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probably could have gotten to a deal. Would you have
been you know, felt complete and the whole. Maybe maybe not,
but you would have been in Atlanta, You would have
still been with all these people that clearly it's vexing
you that you're not still there. Uh And hopefully he
gets past it, goes on, has a great series Dodger
hands like Frostburg everybody else looking around. I mean, when
(12:03):
David Vasse, who's never had a bad thing to say
about the Dodgers, our buddy over at a M five
seventy l a Sports Dodger insider host pre and post
game and a lot of a lot of work with
the Dodgers on Instagram and all these other things. He
he he tweeted out, I have nothing to say because
he couldn't say a kind thing about it, right, He
(12:26):
had to hold his tongue over what he was seeing
and hearing in all of the pre game and all
of the build up to this game. And so you know,
when he's not sticking up for Freddie and coming to
his defense, that tells you everything you need to know, okay,
because that's it. That's the This is a guy that
(12:46):
builds up the squad building. He's critical, I give a
day of his fantastic and that he is brutally honest
about things without you know, sounding like a bitter long
term voice in the market. We've seen plenty of those
through the years, but you know, in this case, he
was just like, yeah, I got nothing. So you know
for Freddy Freeman, Yeah, yeah, you had to. You had
(13:09):
your choice, and you know, but still but but you
had the braves off. And look, we're getting into the
millions of dollars, but it's about you know, the athletes,
it's about their respect. And they first offered him five
years hundred thirty five million. Freddy was like, no, that's
forty million dollars below my market value, which, yeah, you
want to get your market value. Even if you're talking
about would you rather have a hundred and thirty million
dollars or a hundred and eighty million dollars? I ask
(13:30):
you so, but it's thirty million dollars. It's that's sixth times,
but it's but it's five five. And he says no.
And he comes back with two offers of how about
one seventy five for six? They said no, one sixty
five for five. They said no. They said about one
forty for five, which is, you know, just up five
million from the last one. And he said no, and
and and this is okay, this is what we're telling you.
(13:52):
We're not gonna go crazy. And right after this happens,
we're gonna go get another guy. I get him. But
they offered him five it's not like they said, but
one in the but here's a two year deal because
we think at age thirty four, you're turning into you
year guaranteed one year. But you're talking about you know,
we're talking about this is what my value should be,
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and this is what the Dodgers want to give me.
And the Braves are saying, no, wait, this you who
I've been with for twelve years and I've I've I've
given so much. I've won the m v P, I've
won the World Series, and this is what another team
wants to give me. How about we get close to that?
And the Braves said, no, so I get it. I
got I would be really but you could find a
way to be pissed. I get happens that way, and
(14:35):
and and and I get it the Braves, Yeah, we're
only willing to go so far for you. Hey, I've
seen it, take it or leave it, offer or too.
During my many travels in my work careers, I got
salary capped at one place. That's kind of funny, but
it's but you know, I get I get the vexation
and the anger and and in this case, the sadness
(14:55):
to it. But you know, the third or fourth time
that you crack a microphone, that's that's it, man, that's it.
It's it's it's timing to let it go. Hey, you
shed your tears for all of those beat reporters you
don't get to see every day. I get it. Here's
take your hugs, Twitter and out about a fresca. Mike
gets swollen on The Jason Smith Show with my best
(15:16):
friend Mike Harmon. No, I would have said, blank you,
blank you and yet especially oh sure I would have
you might have had words for a kuna. Yeah, I
would have say I I said, I found that podcast.
I listened to it, I put typed in the Google translator.
I know what you said about me? I got it? There,
I got it. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten
(15:37):
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Could we be getting ready
for a Kevin Durant sweepstakes? According to Zach Low from
his NBA podcast earlier today, He has said that NBA
teams are not quite preparing for Kevin Durant to want out,
but they are putting their ducks in a row just
(16:00):
in case he requests a trade in the next week. Obviously,
the story the last few days has been centered around
Kyrie Irving. Is Kyrie going to opt into his final
year of his contract with the Nets? Or is he
going to opt out? Is he gonna opt out and
get a new deal. This has been the story for
the past few days, and Kyrie has until Wednesday to decide.
(16:22):
Kevin Durant has said he is staying out of the
contract talks at this quote perilous time for the Brooklyn Nets. Yes,
it's perilous. What's going to happen? Where can I make
forty million dollars. Are they gonna get dissolved? What's happening? Hey?
You know what, dude, if they leave, you could dissolve
the Nets. Do you really need the Nets? If? If that, now,
(16:42):
of course not move him to Vegas. Now, the Knicks
are gonna get Brunson, They're gonna get a lot of
good players. Ah, the Knicks are on the way up now, Durant,
Durand they moved the franchise back to Seattle. Now or
Durant's size. Hey, I was just kidding when I didn't
want to go to the to the next I'll go
to the Knicks. Now, I'll go there. Now It's okay.
So during it is staying out of the talks the
perilous time, and potentially he could request a trade if
(17:07):
he doesn't want to stay with Brooklyn. According to reports,
he wants to know that if they do move on
from Kyrie, that there is a potential championship plan in
place to keep the team competitive to win a title.
Right now, a lot of stuff there, as John palm
ROSSI would say, a lot of stuff to unpack, a
lot of stuff to wynpack. So let's start with the
first part of it that he is staying out of
(17:28):
the Kyrie Irving talks at this quote, perilous time. It
was a perilous time in the galaxy. The empire had
ruled for so long, and a small band of rebellion
we're cast aside to the furthest reaches of the galaxy.
It was a perilous time. Uh So, the fact that
he said he is staying out of the Kyrie Irving talks,
(17:50):
this means, hey, I'm okay if Kyrie goes, even even
though I'm friends with the guy, I'm okay if Kyrie
Irving goes. If you don't think we can move forward
and be a championship team with Kyrie, fine, if you
want to get rid of him, I get it. I
saw it. The last couple of years have been like
I wasn't a big fan all the times he didn't play.
He's a friend of mine, we came here together. We
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thought it was gonna work. I'm all right if you
move on from him. This is what he means. I'm
staying out of It means I'm okay, because if he
really wanted Kyrie to stay, it would be we need Kyrie,
he needs to stay. I'm gonna talk to him instead.
He has said, Hey, I'm staying out of this man.
This is him, it's his business. And it's nice when
you can choose how involved you want to be with
(18:33):
a situation like that, like, oh I love this guy, man,
I'm involved with anything. Oh hey, I'm stepping out because
I can't get involved in your business. So that this
is this is gonna be my way Like a Vegas dealer.
I just dust my hands and say good night, everybody,
take it easy. This is how Kevin Durant is doing it.
So the first thing is he is eminently okay if
the nets say goodbye to Kyrie Irving even though the
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guys are friends and they wanted to come play there
and thought they're gonna build a championship team and they're
not even close. I do like the two things. Number One,
that my Vegas Blackjack dealer analogy has seeped deep into
your recesses of your brain to be used. So that's good. Uh,
that's good for the show. Good synergy word I hate
(19:14):
more than anything, but well use it here. Uh. And
then that's that's that's a that's a big company watchword. Man.
How often do you hear them. You said, we need
synergy from your side of the company and from this
side of the company. So we're gonna have a corporate
retreat where we're gonna play paintball against each other and
then we're gonna play pictionary at night and golf during
the day. So we're gonna we're gonna we need synergy.
Synergy has gotta happen. And they put their hands together
(19:36):
that looks like their hands are crossing. We need synergy,
synergy in this company. The name of the company is Synergy.
We spell it s I N E R g I
E synergy like syndrome. Uh No, the line is right.
We we have to do what's best for the organization.
Uh So we have that going for us. Kevin Durant saying, hey,
we'll still be friends whatever happens. Like, okay, this goes
(19:58):
back to the point we're making yesterday, and we'll talk
to Rick Buker in a bit of this is where
you get to be the leader, right, That's why you
came because you didn't You wanted credit. You wanted to
be you know, the designer, the master builder, as if
you were you know, either in the Ten Commandments with
Charlton Heston and played by the great Um no, my brain,
(20:23):
my brain is not working. It'll come back now. It
was not Bob Hope. Um. He always played a bunch
of gangsters and stuff. And in this case, you know
he was a builder. Um, Rob I was thinking of No, no,
not Roberts. You said he was a builder. So what
famous builders are there besides Bob. Bob is more famous
(20:45):
as a minion. But he got that going onto side
show Bob. We can we can do a lot of
famous Bob's silent Bob nice. But where the police are
they coming there? Just streaking down right now? You know
(21:06):
this take is hot out the big hoses to come
take it down? Uh, Because that's the other lesson from today.
We had some really harsh societal lessons and that we
have the reminder in sports just say something dumb and
you'll trend. But the thing with Kevin Durant is is
that he left Golden State reportedly, right, that was the
(21:27):
report that it was. He wanted more credit to Time
Finals m v P. But he was always gonna be
you know, sunned by Draymond Green, Steph Curry and and
Clay Thompson. Right, especially Draymond verbally uh that he was
never going to get the credit now obviously, you know,
going there, he took the as he said, I died
(21:50):
on that day, right in that dramatic tweet storm that
he had on the night of the finals championship for
the Warriors this year. But went to Silicon Valley, made
a lot of friends, made a out of money, investments,
all finding good. Goes to Brooklyn to be the leader. Hey,
you know what, lead, here's your opportunity. Go into the
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powers that be and say, what the hell are we
doing here? Are we? Are we gonna? Are we gonna
do this? Are we going Sean McVeigh, are we gonna
run this back? And try to you know, get him
on board, give him a seat at the table and
build this, you know, knowing that Joe Harris is coming back,
like stop, stop, come on man, now, now you're getting
predictable with your Randy. I knew you were gonna say
(22:33):
how long until Harmon says Joe, Joe Harris is Kyrie
or Katie or Lebron or George Mike, and you talk
about him like that's how good he is. I do
have to my daughter sitting here and listening to our
rants reminded me of Bob's Burgers just came out. Yet
I heard that was pretty good. I did. I did
(22:54):
not see her, but I heard it was good. I'm
starting to watch the show a little bit. I dig it. Okay,
you it's a snarky humor um which Fox animated shows
have always been known. But for Kevin Durant, here's your
chance to lead. You can leave, sure, but what are
you gonna get? Well, more more fodder for your new
media campaigns, but more derision and more questions about your
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career and what really matters to you? You know? The
thing is, and this is this is a proof right here,
because I just mentioned how Kevin Durant is okay with
the Nets moving on from Kyrie, even though they're really
good friends. They're best friends, even though they're best friends,
and they came to Brooklyn to win a championship and
to basically at some point you knew they were gonna
(23:38):
take over the franchise. They're gonna buy out Josiah and
they were gonna run things. Um, this is why getting
in into bed with friends and working with friends doesn't
always work, all right. The Heatles wasn't really funn and
and that happens in real life too. It does, it does.
It's not just snorts, it's it's not it's I don't mean,
(24:00):
what do we do last night? Oh my god, your boyfriend?
But I mean it works both ways. No, but look, look,
the heatles wasn't really well thought out right. This was
Lebron and Wade and Bosch at the Olympics going hey, man,
wouldn't be cool if we played together? Yeah, hey, let's
do it? And it was precarious for a while. You've
seen this in previous incarnations of NBA teams that they
(24:22):
have tried, that they have tried to. Let's all work together.
Wouldn't it be great if we played in the same team.
You and I are friends. I'd love to play with
my friends. It doesn't always work. It's sometimes it does.
Sometimes it does, but it's hard to hold friends accountable,
especially when you need to achieve. It's hard to coexist
in a friendly space when you need to achieve. Having
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a startup company with three of your best friends sounds
like a great idea. But when one of them figures
I can just do whatever because my friends got it, well,
that's gonna be a little bit of dice nous that
goes on between the two. There's gonna be some upset feelings. Right,
if you decide to go into a business venture. Hey,
what we're gonna do is we're gonna manufacture purple shorts
and actually have cooling elements. Send them. Oh that sounds great.
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People are gonna buy it. Um. If it doesn't work,
there's going to be bad feelings and it's going to
be difficult because it's hard to hold your friends accountable
and again, it's hard to coexist in a friendly space.
That's the two biggest things about being in in business
with your friends. And Kyrie Irving is the last friend
I would work with. He's the last guy I would say, yes,
(25:28):
I want to go into business with you. I would
know if he was gonna come into work. I wouldn't
know if he was working on what he was supposed
to work on. He would come in, I'd expect to
be working on something and he would say, Oh, I
I know I need to get those printing presses in.
But instead I bought a new car. Wait what Yes,
Oh it's great for me. I'm loving the new car.
What about the printing press? Yeah, I wasn't feeling the
printing presses. So if I bought a new car for me,
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he's the last friend that I would say, Oh yeah, yeah, hey,
you and I, let's let's get together. Let's go. We're
gonna be millionaires. Last guy I would get in with.
And that's what Kevin Durant is finding out that when
you want to go team up, sometimes it works. Sometimes
it's Sometimes being with friends is a good idea, sometimes
it's not. When Lebron teamed up with Dwyane Wade, Dwyane
Wade was the one who said, this is my team,
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but I understand now it's Lebron's team. I will take
on that role of one A and they were very lucky.
Dwyane Wade wanted to do that because that was one
of the big reasons why the Heatles were able to
win and win how they did. But it doesn't always
happen that way, and so yes, they got lucky. But
the norm is what went on and what happened to
the Nets well, and you saw it happened that way
with Steph Curry bringing in Kevin Durant. See, so he
(26:34):
saw it work. Man, he was there and then he
didn't like but you know, they There's two things, right.
It's the working with friends, like can I get about
like online? You know, there's all these communities and trading cards,
you know as a collect by sell whatever that you know, Hey,
can I get about if you've done a transaction with me?
(26:54):
And some of the guys like, yeah, you know, you
took care of business pretty fast. Other guys, yeah, you
were slow handed. I was wondering if you were trying
to find a substitute because you liked the version and
copy of the card I bought better that you had
in your you know, in a collection. You were working
another deal at the same time, so you have that.
The other is, you know, let's let's just go back
to uh, the greatness of pulp fiction. My name is Paul.
(27:18):
This between y'all. That's kind of where Kevin Durantis at
this point. I got nothing. I got no cloud here.
What do you mean, I'm just Kevin Durands. I'm only
that's like Roger Goodell. I've only commissioned at the NFL.
That's all I could do. Be sure to catch live
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(28:03):
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(28:26):
will welcome in Rick Buker with two very simple words.
Nix yo, nix yo, conveyance yo, protecting pick yo. What
are we doing? Yo? We're getting everybody, Rick, We're getting
Jalen Brunson. We're We're getting everybody. It's happening. Everybody. Run around.
(28:50):
Look busy, looks like you're doing something. See we're very industrious.
All right, what did you make? We didn't they get anything?
We're just busney. We're busy moving things. We're doing make
you think happen? Well, they got to put out a
long press release that had a lot bunch of lion
items do it? And like I was though, I was
(29:11):
not fully aware of this. Um, but Leon Rose has
not Uh, he has not talked to the media in
person since the preseason and before and after he's never spoken.
(29:35):
Is he reliving like Joseph Condrad's Heart of Darkness? Like? What? What? What? What?
The hell? Again? We come back to nix Yo, We're
back to where Rick makes sense of this for me here?
How about me out? Oh? You know, I don't know
whether to be uh, incredibly flattered that you think I
(29:57):
can make sense out of it or insulted that you
would actually put me on the spot and asked me
to do the impossible. I will say this, it's it's
I get what the thinking was in terms of they're
going after Jalen Brunson. You gotta find a way to
get off the kemba walker. Um, you don't want to
(30:19):
just flip a pick, you know, flip your pick in
order to one not half to pay. I mean you
have a lottery pick. That's a pretty big number. I
don't know, it's probably at least or five million starting,
so you flip that along with um Kemba Walker's contract
and now you're opening up eighteen million or so, so
(30:40):
you get a little bit closer to being able to
uh to legitimately go after Jalen Brunson. And yet at
the same time you acquire other assets, other draft picks,
so it doesn't look like, hey, we just I mean,
it doesn't make you look as bad having to dump
Kemba's con track uh if you can have some camouflage
(31:03):
from the fact that it took a lottery pick or
it took a pick in order to do that, and
so so there's that. So I get, I get the
logic behind it, but it's it's putting all your eggs
in the jail in brunson basket. And if you don't
get him, um, I actually I don't think Malcolm Brogdon
(31:26):
is a is a bad fallback. But if you don't
get either one of those, then what are you looking
at and how have you accomplished anything? And that's the
that's the issue. Now I will say this, you know,
I don't need Stephen A or or uh or Spike
or anybody to like, you know, gnash their teeth and
(31:47):
pull their hair out. First of all, I have you
to do that, Jason, and to like, what were you
expecting them to do in this draft that was going
to chain your view of who they were? I know
Jade and Ivy was was was you know, everyone was
hoping that that that they were going to be able
to find a way to get him. But even if
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you add him, like, does that really change the narrative
on the Knicks right now? It does not. You have
a mid you have a mismatch, you have Town Thibodeaux
is a coach who is a good finishing coach with veterans,
and you have a young rebuilding program. Until you change that,
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there's no going forward here. And this is also the
problem with being the Knicks in that market is that
if you are going to rebuild, you need patients. And
when you have a Knicks fan like stephen A or
or you know, Knicks fans as visible as stephen A
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and and Spike, you have no chance of gaining the
patients that you need in order to build this. And
then you double down on it by Leon not ever
talking to the media or cultivating a relationship with the
media in New York. It might earn you some of
(33:13):
that patients. It might get you some of those guys
saying Stephen at a shut up, like you're always whining
about the Knicks, Like leon Rose has a plan and
here it is, and I know what we know what
it is, and and you've got somebody who's waving the
flag for you. They're doing none of those things. So
like the idea that last night was somehow going to
(33:35):
be the panacea for all the ills the Knicks, like
that's just unrealistic. But it seems to me like they're
not even trying to come up with a plan that
would make sense, that it's going to get them to
the next stage. And that that's probably the most distressing thing.
I don't have a problem. Look, it's easy to hit
the Knicks. We do it all the time. But they're
(33:58):
making it a little too easy right now because there's
nothing even somebody who wants to say, hey, give them
a chance. They're not giving you anything to hold on
to latch onto that says this is why you should
give them a chance. Is it perhaps a calculated effort
because the nets are right there with them with all
sorts of craziness, turmoil and uh, well, lots of chaos
(34:21):
for lack of a better term. So there, I mean,
we're not talking about it. We're bad, but look at
what you guys have. Yeah, well, or or it's you
know what. Okay, So we were not very good on
the court. But if you think the Nets can build
a dumpster fire, we can build a three story dumpster fire.
(34:43):
Like our dumpster fire is much much bigger than theirs.
That's the only that's the only explanation that I have
because at least with the Brooklyn with the Brooklyn Nets,
and and look, the Nick, this is this is a
little bit like the Coca Hall of Pepsi thing. The Nick,
because of their brand alone, should never view themselves as
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being in competition with the Brooklyn Nets. That should not
be affective. No matter what the Brooklyn Nets do, it
should be this is what we're doing. This is what
our plan is. And I had I hate to say
it because I don't know that they'll ever get a solution.
This is this is probably the most I don't know,
depressing aspect of the next situation, which we all know,
(35:28):
which is that as long as Jim Dolan owns the team,
nothing is going to change. Like I fully expected a
year from now, we're going to get another regime. Leon
Leon is gonna be out. We're having no GM. We're
certainly gonna have another head coach, and and we're gonna
start the sysiphus rolling the ball up the rock, up
the hill and waiting for it to roll back down,
(35:50):
honest and squash us all. And then we get somebody
else to roll it up again, and they would roll
back down and squashes us all and sysiphus Yo, sysiphus.
Like in a year. In a year, we're gonna be
talking about that. Yeah, yeah, that's what we're gonna But
the latest iteration and ultimately the guy who's making the
decisions on who does it and why they do it
(36:11):
and how they do it is going to be Jim Dolan.
And we've we've seen this before. So it's that's the
most depressing aspect of this is like, I just don't
see how it's legitimately going to change. But I will
say this, I don't see anything changing until we get
to the next regime because I just it's still blows
(36:36):
my mind. I'm still wrapping my head around the fact
that Leon Rose is in a rebuilding situation and he's
found it to serve him best by not cultivating any
kind of relationship with the people that connect him to
his fan base, which is the fan base that you
need the patience of in order to have the time
(36:57):
to say, look, we've got these young peces and you
know Obi has got to earn his minutes and uh,
you know Mitchell's coming along and um, you know, just
go down the line. I mean, you just you need
to sell hope. And how do you how do you
sell hope if you never tell people what your plan is.
(37:20):
That that just is with a with a press release,
I mean a press release that just kind of vaguely
says this is what we were thinking. Um, and this
is you know, these are our broad strokes. It just
I it is. It's nothing short of mouth seasons as
I see it. With with how you run a you
(37:43):
run a an organization, especially in the media capital of
the world. Are you kidding me? I just I can't.
I can't get over it. Whatever whatever you think of
what Leon Rose is doing, the fact that he's he
feels it's beneath him to explain what he's doing so
the people who cover the team is mind boggling. See
I I dig your Sisyphus reference. I think it looks
(38:06):
more like um, the yodeling guy from that game on
the prices, right, and then you reset and come back
for more. So let's stay with the next Then, Uh,
you've got Kevin Durant, you know, new media and chirping
all over Twitter, showing up a podcast. Hey I'm not
you know, that's Kyrie's business and whatever else. I sent
(38:28):
this along to Jason. Uh, Kyrie Irving on bet online
a g uh next team? If not the Nets Lakers
are three to one? Would you really go play for
six million dollars and leave a lot of cash on
the table. Uh? He would if he's going to stay
true to this idea that he's not like we're all puppets,
(38:49):
but he's not a puppet. Um, because if he stays
with the Brooklyn Nets, Brooklyn Nets are are are making
a point of saying, we're rest stink control of the
franchise once again. We handed it over to Katie and Kyrie.
No more of that. We're going to run the show
and Kyrie, if you want to stay, you're gonna stay
(39:10):
in an incentive laden shorter term deal because we can't
give you a long leash. That's the deal, and and
and so um. If if Kyrie accepts that, then while
they're pulling strings and he's responding to it, his only
out really is to go to the Lakers or go
(39:33):
someplace else, take whatever money they have to offer him,
and say it's not about the money. I just want
to play. And and I've said this elsewhere, said it
on first things first. But to me, that would do
the most to rehabilitate his image because much of what
he has said doesn't fit with what he does. This
(39:56):
would be a truly uh magnanimous where it's like, it's
about playing the game, it's about not being told what
I have to do where I have to do it.
I'm gonna make the choice. I'm gonna go play here.
Short of that, if he if he decides to stay
in Brooklyn, if he decides to to compromise or acquiesced
(40:21):
to the new rule with the with the Brooklyn Nets,
then I don't want to hear anymore from him about
like media puppets and people taking direction and all that,
because he will demonstrate that he's no different. Alright, Rick, Lastly,
something we talked about a few minutes ago, you know
well Kenny Atkinson uh staying with the Golden State Warriors.
(40:43):
Steve Clifford goes back to Charlotte, which is great now
whether or not Kenny Atkinson is the coach and waiting
for Golden Steaks. We've seen this kind of thing before,
whether officially unofficially. It's hard for me to see Steve
Kerr coaching more than another year or two. And when
the Warriors championship win closes, he doesn't retire, but he
takes a sabbatical because he's coached a lot of high
(41:05):
pressure games, he's synonymous with this dynasty. He's had health issues.
I see him go another year or two and then hey,
I'm stepping away. I recharge and then he comes back,
maybe goes back as the GM, he coaches someplace else.
It kind of follows that Phil Jackson type path. I
think that's a good bet um from everything I've heard,
both Bob Myers and Steve Kerr like this. It's a grind.
(41:28):
I don't think people appreciate, especially what what Steve Kerr
went through the last three years and building this team up.
Now having Steve having having Steph Curry um certainly eases things.
If there's any crew that that he would run or
want to run with. Uh, it's this one. But it
kind of goes hand in hand with Steph, Like I
(41:51):
don't his steps never talked about it, and I don't
haven't gotten any indication that he's looking to stop playing
anytime soon. But it did turn thirty four. Um, you
know how many years does he have left. He's got
a young family, he's got he's involved in a lot
of other things. Um, I know he loves to play
and compete, but you know how much longer does he
(42:14):
want to do it. I I think if he stepped
off in two three years, then Steve would two And
there's a chance there is a chance, depending on how
things go, that that Steve might do it sooner than that,
because I do know. You know, I've been told by
various people, and it's because sort of unsolicited they would
just bring it up there like, yeah, I think Steve
(42:36):
and Bobb all they have a couple more years now.
This was going into prior to winning the championship, and
sometimes that can re energize you and give you motivation
you go get another one. But there's no question that,
um that you know, Rick Wealth stepped off like people look. Um,
I give Joe Lake all the credit in the world.
He has really evolved as an owner. Um. I loved
(42:58):
when they when they want the championship and he basically said, Hey,
this is all Bob and Steve and the players. It
was it was the most humility that I've seen him show.
But Joe always thinks they're supposed to win every year.
In the last three years, he was grinding and pushing
and that gets you what they've gotten. And he's put
(43:20):
his money where his mouth is. So I can't bolton
on any of that, but it does wear that constant
pressure does wear people out. And Steven Bob at the
point now where they're minted. I mean, they could take
a couple of years off and people would be knocking
their door down to get them back in the game.
So I think you're I think you're definitely onto something.
(43:43):
And it certainly fits with everything that I've been hearing
around the league. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker and
that is at Rick Buker and potentially, if Steve Kerr
does step down, Matt Buker would be named the next
head coach of the Golden State Warriors. So if that happens,
you would have more unpreced access to that team. I well,
(44:03):
you would think, but I know what would not be surprised?
Would not be surprised? Dad? Who? Rick? Who? I hope
my people get back to you. How did you get
to remembers? Here? Yo? My son's doing all these interviews
(44:28):
with WOA. Why can't I get me? My dad? Dad? What?
Would you got more followers than you did? Nothing personal?
Here's the very part I can actually I can imagine
in my head. I can see those words coming out
(44:48):
of Matt's mouth. Check out the latest the On the
Ball podcast with Rick Buker. Then there's the On the
Ball Squared podcast with Matt Puker, but on the Ball
with Rick Puker. The podcast is there to check them
out on Twitter as well at Rick Puker. Rick is
always buddy. Appreciate you man. We'll talk to you next week.
My pleasure. You gotta guy. Thanks Rick,
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