July 1, 2022 • 35 mins
Mike and Rich talk about the impact of the Padres in San Diego as they fall to the Dodgers tonight, some framework for a possible Kyrie Irving to LA trade comes out, Alex’s obsession with Stranger Things, and more!
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just a turn to hit two home runs tonight and
Craig Kimbrel finished off the game without much stress. Very
weird Dodgers game because there's been a lot of people
calling for Justin Turner. They're looking in the minor leagues,
are going Vargas, where's Vargas? Is he coming? Is he coming? Uh? Instead,
you know, maybe trimming of the beard and hair and
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Justin Turner with a couple of bombs in in a
big opening to this series between the Dodgers and the Padres.
You're down there in San Diego. How important this is
this for the fans right now? Where the Padres have
been even with no Fernando Tatis, well, it's huge. Um. Yeah, Look,
anybody who follows baseball Knows the name Fernando Tatis Jr.
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And the Padres recently have opened up the checkbook and
really spent to build a team. Uh. It started really
in earnest with the Hosmer deal. They paid him a
hundred forty four million dollars for eight years service. That
was five years ago they signed that contract, and that
was quickly followed by the Machado deal after his half
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season with the Dodgers after trade from the Orioles, and
that was followed with this Tati steal last season, where
you know, thirteen years, three forty million dollars was peeled
off for the superstar who has yet to see the
field this season because of a broken wrist. He didn't
report to the team with until spring training opened. So
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it's it was. It was a exciting offseason thinking about
the prospective year to come, and it felt like a
lot of water was thrown on that excitement with the
Tatis injury. But then the season began and new skipper
Bob Melvin and the staff in San Diego have been
able to navigate a great record. They're winning a lot
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of games and you know, really putting the focus back
on our national audience. This has become the best rivalry
in Major League Baseball, and I would be interested to
hear what other people think is the best rivalry and
right now, but there it look in in a sport
that lacks regular season urgency to have a postseason atmosphere,
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it's it's fleeting. It's rare in any of these games.
But because there's real hatred I think between respect, but
some hatred between these two squads. When the Padres visit
l A or the Dodgers visit San Diego, it's sort
of feels like everybody who cares about this sport wants
to tune in because it reminds you of September, it
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reminds you October. As long as the Padres are still
playing baseball, I'm sorry, that's right, Because they got chested
last year and then they well kind of disappeared. Yeah,
that's so we'll we'll see if the the new tone
uh and structure they're in and how quickly they can
get Tatis Junior back in To be as close as
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they are to the Dodgers in the standing without him
playing is truly a big deal. I think crossed to
vision in the American League. I'd look at Yankees Astros
those those have a playoff kind of feel to them.
But in Division, Yeah, I think you're right. And part
of it is I'm in the belly of the beast,
So certainly it gets ramped up because everybody gets really
emotional and hyper and very defensive. It really gets into
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a very strange Maybe there's a book to be written there. Rich.
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do apply. All right, let's get back into it. USC
U c l A heading to the Big ten two
thousand twenty four, just two years away. We've seen the
opening Salvo Texas, Oklahoma, a lot of player movement, a
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lot of coach movement, and I L deals, transfer portals,
all of that building alt today's announcement, to which honestly
didn't see coming. Right, We've had a lot of transfer news.
Lincoln Riley shows up, and it's all right, will the
will USC rise as a program again? And obviously for
those of us that had been in it here in
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Los Angeles, had paid attention to the larger USC base
community and not just results on a field. They've had
nothing but scandal after scandal at that school for years,
So right, looking for any kind of bright spots. The
arrival of Lincoln Riley and and perhaps a new dawn
of football was a big deal. Well, now all of
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a sudden, it's like hold the phone. Now we're gonna
change up conferences and so everything you've known expected, and
let's face at the Pac twelve not seen with the
any level of revenue reverence at all, right, some for
the vestiges of what USC was and some of those
great team teams and players of the past. And then Oregon,
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which has given us some great runs. And in terms
of consistency, we've had it there Washington every now and
again Utah. But does Utah play nationally No, right, especially
when we're talking about when the game's play, And that's
one of the pack twelves bigger issues. So USC and
u c l A. By moving over to the Big ten,
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they win there right for TV windows, not to mention
the payouts based on media contracts double what you're taking
home for your We'll call it the organization since we
just celebrated the end of the Stanley Cup final Rich
But it's one of those seismic moves that probably shatters
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the PAC twelve. Slash ten altogether does open up a
couple of slots. But what are they sliding into now?
I agree with you, it's it's gonna be um. It's
gonna be interesting to see what the PAC twelve is now.
I keep wanting to call them the PAC ten because
they're losing two teams, But what what what they're gonna
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go after? Are they going to go after merging with
another conference. You know, could this be some sort of
opportunity to see UH teams or conferences merge um, you know,
to become something different. Then you know, are we going
to see the PAC twelve absorbed group of five teams
and just start keep rolling on as they were prior
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to this, you know, just with a couple of different
faces around the room. I it's so difficult to know
what direction they're gonna go in because it hasn't been
even easy to call any of these things. And what's
actually really unique about this, because there are so many
leaks in sports media, it's it's what's fascinating is how
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quiet these stories stay and then all of a sudden boom,
within hours, announcements are made. You know, Oklahoma, Texas that
was a little more sloppy. It felt like it was
a little it came out a little bit half baked
when the story broke. But we we knew that they
were going to get the final push and that was
all gonna get sorted out and they were going to
join the SEC. But this, I mean, the writing's done,
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you know, the deal is made. The Big ten is
sending out tweets USC and us C l A U
C L A are sending out tweets like this is
a done deal, and they were able to keep this
completely under wraps the entire time. That's probably the most
shocking part of this story is that it was just
launched on us, you know, five hours ago, and nobody
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saw it coming. So I don't know what's next. I
I wrote it in jest, but maybe the A C C,
the Big twelve in the Pack twelve should join forces
and create a mega conference and try to sell their
rights to Amazon and call themselves the back twelve, you know,
I do you know, just combined like that. Yeah, throw
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two seeds for the A C C. Everybody has their
little corner of the United States, you know. Uh, the
SEC spread west, the the Big ten spread west, and
then the Pack twelve and the other two conferences. You know,
they own the rest of it. I don't know, but
we're all I know is this is the landscape keeps
shifting under our feet, and I'm not sure the music
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has stopped yet. On the on the scheme of musical chairs, Yeah,
we'll get into some of the principles and and where
they can end up. But from it, just the larger
theoretical to it rich. I mean, you had the alliance
and it was like, all right, you got the a SEC,
Big ten, PAC twelve and trying to figure out how
to navigate. Clearly, uh, someone should have gotten something on
paper if they wanted protections, because that didn't work right.
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The pren up on the breakup didn't didn't work there
because you lost two high revenue, high academic institutions. But
that too, that's like a celebrity matter of course. But
but it's still just the the idea of all right,
we're we're gonna brainstorm of how to move into this
next phase to combat with the CEC did and the
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Big ten just said, no, I forget it. You know,
we just want to be in battle them. And and
look every year we do the same thing. It's like,
here's all these Big ten teams. Will they be good
come the playoffs slash Bowl season O. Their teams are
built differently, and even though the offenses have changed, running
games are still a big part of what a lot
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of those teams in the Big Ten do. When you
go into bowl games and you're trying to match speed
for speed, it only goes so far in the Big Ten,
where you're gonna be able to match up man for man, right,
we see that every year. Yeah, yeah, But but we're
also look, I mean we're we're really beyond those years
where the Big Ten has been this, you know, three
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yards and a cloud of dust conference. I mean, all
of the old teams that used to use the ground
and pound strong defensive style of play have made their adjustments.
Steven Iowa is operating out of the no huddle. No sure.
The point I'm making is recruiting speed to no school
still lacks on a grand scale compared to the SEC.
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I would say this is if if you look, this
is this is the truth with with sports in general.
Where do free agents go when they get drafted by Milwaukee?
They go to Miami, they go to l A. You
know what I'm saying, Like warmer weather places, athletes training
warmer weather places. Athletes prefer to play in warmer weather places. Now,
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don't get me wrong, you could have lifers playing cold
weather and in sports with domes arenas, it doesn't matter
quite as much. But in football, if you're a receiver,
where where do you think you're gonna have more six
success catching catching balls at Lambeau or you know, it's
so fie, you know those So in college it's the same.
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Would you rather play outdoors in Minnesota for the Golden
Golfers or you know, in Baton Rouge for the l
s U Tigers. It to me that you can't change
the climate, right, so you're always going to pale in
comparison from that standpoint. But with name, image and likeness
money opening up, I bet you there is a greater
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possibility of some of these fast five star and four
star skilled position players sticking around in Pennsylvania and playing
their school ball around the Big Ten, or you know,
going from southern California, going from Florida to one of
these Big ten schools. I'm talking about the ones in
the Midwest, in the Northeast, not the two new ones
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out in the Southwest. Um because because that that avails
them the opportunity to collect probably more coin than they
could at some of these other competitive universities in the SEC.
Gotta figure out how to get your your ducats right,
and playing time is gonna help get you that, Uh,
no question about it. It's it is the changing landscape.
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We'll try to pull out the crystal ball. See what
the next dominoes are in a fall as well as
you know, breaking down a little bit of the advantage
use for USC and U c l A arriving as
part of the Big Ten, what it means for them.
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Sports Radio. My guy Rich Ornberger sliding in for Jason Smith.
You find him on Twitter. Yeah, he is to tell
Drake of Water, you know, to kick your ass. He'll
run block you down the street. I'm gonna eat that
ass up. Hold on, now, well, you know hey that
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you do what you're gonna do. That's Jason's best Mike
Tomlin impression. I've I've I've hung up the cleats and
I'm done run blocking. But I will say this, my
wrestling career has just began. Anybody with two rambunctious boys,
and I've got two under ten right now. I got
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a seven year old and a four year old buddy.
I mean, it is legitimately a WW match before bed
every single night. And uh and I don't know. As
the years go on, I'm starting to feel myself getting
getting a little overmatched, especially when they when they tag
team up on me. Well you know what if soon
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as the foreign objects show up, you're in trouble. Yeah yeah,
I haven't been belted with a chair yet. But don't
I mean, like, don't give him ideas. That's the I
will say this. I've got two girls. And for a while,
you know, it was a little bit of the rough housing,
but the bigger thing became a you know the complex,
you know condo complex had a pool, has a pool,
and when they were smaller, it was the a can
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your body slam me, press slam me, throw me all
that stuff. My shoulders are so bad. Like I know,
to throw a ball now and it just slumps and
then my left arm is you know, far lower, left shoulder,
far lower than my right shoulder for the rest of
the day. It really is kind of frightening orn laboram
or something. They're rich, you're gonna have to go on
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the I L extended. No, it just means I'm not
throwing anybody anymore. Really, the the bigger deal there, I'm
gonna throw this out there. What do you what do
you think about? And and let's put odds on it, like,
you know, because this is all gonna happen relatively fast,
and I'm not talking about weeks and maybe it'll be
beginning of next week. But what would you put the
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odds on Kyrie in l A. We could probably actually
find real odds for that right now. Yeah, yeah, I'm
I'm I'm actually some book has got to have. But
but you personally like, let's see if it matches up. Well, well,
we're searching that. What would you think? Yeah? Maybe higher?
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No kidding, yeah, right now, they're the favorite to be
the team he plays his first minutes for. In courtesy
of DraftKings Sports Book. Oh wow, how about that? So
it goes Lakers the nets than Mavericks. That's fantastic. Then
the Clippers, and the reason why it is is frankly
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just for the story, Like you know, like, here's the
thing I love about the n b A. There is
obviously transcendent talent. I mean what we see Steph Curry
do to win a finals championship in an m v
P is bananas. I mean, the guy can hit shots
routinely from the logo. He's done this for a decade now.
Plus it's just absurd, uh, Kevin Durant. For a guy
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who's seven feet tall and has had an achilles rupture
to be able to still break on the basketball and
create room and dribble drive the way he's able to,
uh is just absurd. I mean, there's no other way
to put Lebron James. He's ageless and he's approaching forty.
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But the off season has this soap opera field to it,
and the fact that Kyrie and Lebron had the falling
out in Cleveland, and Kyrie had a flute fly the
Klute coupe, and he wanted to branch out on his
own and try a couple of new ventures without Lebron,
and then them coming back together and being paired up
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with potentially uh, a D. I would assume Ross would
have to be involved in the trade for him to
go uh to l A. It's just it's it's just
a soap opera now, But that's just it. It's it's
a soap opera during the year, particularly now that you
got guys doing everything they can to chirp and clap
back at media, right and starting all the w w
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E like fights like we were talking about earlier. Right,
So it's all right, let's keep this going. Even on
a night where you don't have games and whatever, you're
the topic of conversation. Hell, look at it all year long, Rich,
I mean the the Nets what we're the seven seed
and Kyrie didn't play, but what twenty nine regular season games?
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K D missed some time? Go to the Warriors, guys
missed time. The Lakers were an absolute train wreck. But
what did we do? We watched every bit of it.
It might as well have been another episode of General
Hospital or as as the world turns. All right, what's
the latest rumor what's the And it's great for business, right,
it gives us something to talk about, fans something to
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yell about or get excited about in some respects, right,
Memphis rising up, although Jackson Jr. Going out for four
to six months, that's not news. You want. This free
agency begins coming off the monster season that they had,
and then you you think of it from the angle
of like, okay, so you get over the the storyline
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of them reuniting and I'm sure everybody's gonna play nice
in the sandbox, especially at first, but then you start
thinking about, well, what does this actually mean for the
Lakers and what does it actually look like for the Lakers?
Is there enough room for Kyrie on that roster? You know,
can Lebron and him coexist together? You know, look, Kyrie
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with all the I mean the the oddness of this season,
with the vaccine mandates put on employees in New York
and the fact that he didn't want to, you know,
get the vaccine and it affected his team. You know,
he's not exactly going to a city that that that
has more relaxed mandates. You know, it's it's gonna be
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interesting to see if any of that hangs over the
Lakers head. On the other side, it doesn't seem like
it will. But I guess we can't predict predict if
you can predict the last couple of years. You're a
better person than I. That's that's for sure. John Gambadro
at Gambo seven. Uh, folks tweeting at him a long
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time in Phoenix asking about Kyrie, but hearing Lakers for
RUSS a first round pick and a pick swap with
maybe another player involved, maybe Joe Harris. Well you know me,
I love me some Joe Harris. Those that have listened
to the show the last few weeks, hell, the last
couple of years, Uh, no, I recognize because think about
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the Nets missed him. He played fourteen games. There's a
guy that back to back years was a three point
shooter and is suddenly not on the court. In addition
to what was going on with Kyrie, Now remember you
you did the run up with the last couple of
years for Kevin Durant. If he wasn't wearing clown shoes,
maybe they beat Milwaukee and move on. But when we
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look at it, yeah, that what Gambadro puts out is
right because it falls in line with the news of
the day, which is Kevin Durant wants out of Brooklyn,
right us. Look, if we're gonna swap these guys, I mean,
it's fun here you go, you know what to make
right with the world and solve the past and let
bygones being bygones. And this is an edict from the
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basketball gods, Lebron, you have to play with Kyrie again
and Russ, you and k Kad need to resolve your issues.
I mean, that'd be delicious theater. You want to talk
about soap operas. But that trade makes sense with Kevin
Durant saying I'm out well well and and to your
point like so, so this is this is actually making
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the picture a lot more clear, right, you know. So
you're the Brooklyn Nets and you're trying to get either
Katie and Kyrie to stick around or you're going to
try to trade Kyrie for us and some draft picks
so you can build around Katie. Well, Katie may be
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cool with playing with Kaie read, but he's certainly not
cool with the idea of having to play with Russ
again and rebuild with with that, you know, remarriage. You know.
So it makes it just like all the pieces are
starting to make sense now, like what we've seen in
free agency, it was blockbuster news. Kevin Durant he wants
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out of Brooklyn here's his list of teams that he'd
prefer to go. Everybody's like, whoa, why is this happening? Well,
all of a sudden, it makes sense because if for
us ends up in Brooklyn with a draft picker too,
and Kyrie reunites with uh Lebron in l A, now
now it all makes sense. Well, that's the reason why
why Kevin Durant wanted out because he didn't want okay
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see part two. He wants to go and play, you know,
in a in an atmosphere, in a city, or with
teammates who he hasn't had prior poor experiences with. It's
about as likely as Kevin Durant teaming up with Russell
Westbrook as it is him teaming back up with Draymond Green,
which is to say it's not happening. Yeah, we like
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rich Oran Burger is in. Uh Smith, if you happen
to be listening out and about Tisher said, get the
popcorn ready, he'll be there by midnight. As Stranger Things,
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the fourth season, Part two releases this evening, rich are
you in on all this? You know what? I haven't
gotten into Stranger Things. Yeah, he had a good run.
But I but I will say this, it's not for
lack of interest, because I I look for for probably
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a solid two weeks span. I wasn't going to succumb
to squid games. Like I said, there's no way that
doesn't interest me. I'm not a subtitle guy. I just
I'm not gonna be able to hang. And then somebody
commenced me, well, just watch the dubbed version, and I did,
and Buddy, I don't know if you ended up watching
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squid Games, but it was phenomenal. So like I I've
I've gotten off of this, like oh, I'm I'm above this.
I'm about like no, no, no, no. At some point,
I'm I promise you Tisher, I'm gonna get around to
watching Stranger Things. It just hasn't made its way onto
the to the queue yet. Rich. No, this every episode
is at least an hour in ten minutes. There was
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four seasons. I've never watched. I watched it all in
a week. You're gonna love it, really, so it's that addictive.
It's season one. I am behind. I was not not
for lack of wants. You know, the girls started watching
it without me. Oh you got left in the dusk.
I got left in the dust. I got other things
to do too, you know, trying to keep Smith in
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line each night here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm into
I'm I need a new show. And and somebody said, uh,
and this is another one that may blow certain people's mind.
Ted Lasso never got into it, never saw you Bloody
of time before season three gets underway here. People love it,
they tell me all the time. It's fantastic, it's terrific,
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and uh, it's something that I need to get into.
Let's see, I enjoyed that Gilded Age Barry of course, Yeah,
that was fantastic. Uh but you know, to go back
to the whole squid game thing and you said, I
don't know if you've seen it. Yeah, it's it's I'll
give you the answer. The new Jordan Peele movie that's
coming out is titled Nope, and I won't see either
(28:18):
of those. Uh so, wait a second, are you is
that a genre you won't touch? You won't touch like horror? No, no, no,
I'll do some of it. So like you've got to
intrigue me and that, and if it gets overhyped, the
less likely I am to jump off. But that's that's
where because I don't want to. I don't want to
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be cheap because now everybody wants me and they try
to sell me. Like Jason sometimes he'll get any We
had a big argument about this the other night. Right,
he tries to sell you on a show and if
you don't watch it, you're a lesser person. Well it's
not that you're like you know what it is though,
I I know you're feeling right there. Sometimes it pays
to be punk rock, like you're you almost feel like,
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all right, if all the cool kids are doing this
and I try to be the cool kid, I look
lamer because I'm trying to catch up with the cool kids.
But you know what, the there is something about the mob,
like they yeah, the mob can get things wrong, but
if you have a million people coming up to and
telling you how good Squid Games is or how good
Ted Lasso is. Those are my two examples recently, or
(29:21):
stranger things like this conversation started like eventually, yeah, all right,
because I did the same thing with Breaking Bad, like
everybody was into Breaking Bad. Walter White, Oh you're gonna
love it. I'm like, what is it? He's a science teacher,
he cooks meth. What the hell? And I just I
acted like I was too cool for school and Harmon.
I kicked myself for not seeing you, no, Boddy. I
(29:43):
tried to sell everybody on that when it first started,
like yeah, have you had no interest? And then eventually
became the biggest thing in the world. But the big
thing for me is, right if if everybody's on board,
and look, there was as we celebrate the Elvis movie
being out in theaters. That's one of the things the
girls and I will be doing on Sunday, catching up
a little after Madeline's whole Dallas sojourn. Is the idea
(30:06):
that he had an album that was forty million Elvis
fans can't be wrong, right, based on how many albums
have been sold estimated at that point uh in the career,
and I just equated to one cinematic experience that really
reinforced the if the mob really wants you to watch
something that I can't do it because I go in
(30:27):
expecting greatness. And that was the matrix where I wanted
to throw a rock through my television screen about twenty
minutes in Wait. You didn't like the may hate it,
hated it, but everybody did such a hard sell on it,
and I went in wanting to love it to the
point where it's like I don't even I don't even
know I hate you know what I'm also I consider
(30:50):
myself like like kind of you know, look what I'm
I'm a happy idiot like I when it comes to entertainment,
Like you know, they still have that back for tomorrow
that I really am, Like I, I'm easily entertained, you
know what I mean. So you know whether it's like
the little wind up monkey with the symbols clashing, Yeah,
(31:11):
you know so I remember I remember walking into a
perfect example the movie Avatar when that came out. I
hate that. That's one I hated more than the majors.
And and there were so many people like you who
said this was overhyped, this and that I walked out
of there like I think my life has been changed.
I love it visually, it's stunning, but I actually had
(31:32):
people in the movie theater. I went and saw the
Black Phone and the trailer started. People started booing exactly.
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backfill the pack twelve or does it just dissolve? We'll
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sure he's got plenty of thoughts, particularly when it comes
to Laker historians, as he likes to call them, getting
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and he's got he's a man with thoughts just like
(32:39):
well you would expect here as you're on air at
Fox Sports Radio. Rich. So, and that really wasn't as
big as cell as I'd hoped to be. But when
it comes down to it, you know, we we get
this radical realignment right too, big Southern California's schools leave
the pack twelve for the Big Ten. Now it's a
question does a Big ten keep expanding? Reports are tonight
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you had seven or more teams, some of them from
the Pack twelve writing calling, putting in more or less
applications to the Big ten to say what about us?
And you have to wonder, I think to some degree,
ore Agon, Washington or those two of the teams. We
wonder what happens with Notre Dame in this next game
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of musical chairs. But for the Pack twelve, you know,
in terms of just dissolving altogether, what what is the
next generation of the Pack twelve. And you work for
San Diego State, I gotta feel they're they're starting to
print Pack twelve merchandise. Well, if there is a Pack twelve,
because to your point, if this continues the way it
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potentially could continue like that, maybe it was just the
opening salvo with USC in U c L, a jumping ship,
like a billion dollar network deal with Fox split twenty
ways is fifth the million dollars per team. If it's
a twenty team conference, they're up to six team right now.
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What slows this down? I mean, I could potentially see Stanford, Oregon, Washington,
maybe Colorado joining the Big ten. Also, I mean, look,
I I I sincerely doubt that this has done, is
my point, And I don't know if that means the
Big Ten is going to continue to uh, you know,
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add teams, or if it's going to be that se
See making another announcement, or you know, maybe the Pact
twelve is going to try to absorb some group of
five teams to make up for what they've lost. Who
knows what's next. But yeah, the one thing that is
constant in college football right now has changed. That's what
I can tell you for certain. Yeah, I think the
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big thing here is, you know, you keep pushing through
trying to read the tea leaves and the dominoes defall
and and just recognize that, uh, you know when you
always want to buy distress properties. Rich right when some
he's having an issue, that's the time to swoop in
and see if you can do that. And the conferences
are lining up and ready to pounce. He's Rich. I'm
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for NFL Lineman Penn State University. I have the trading
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I got one. I think I got you a set
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Spa are gold? You? You know? How do we do it?
I mean, there's so many cool pens anymore. Sharpies aren't
just black and red anymore. Yeah, no, you got all
(02:08):
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(02:51):
just a turn to hit two home runs tonight and
Craig Kimbrel finished off the game without much stress. Very
weird Dodgers game because there's been a lot of people
calling for Justin Turner. They're looking in the minor leagues,
are going Vargas, where's Vargas? Is he coming? Is he coming? Uh? Instead,
you know, maybe trimming of the beard and hair and
(03:12):
Justin Turner with a couple of bombs in in a
big opening to this series between the Dodgers and the Padres.
You're down there in San Diego. How important this is
this for the fans right now? Where the Padres have
been even with no Fernando Tatis, well, it's huge. Um. Yeah, Look,
anybody who follows baseball Knows the name Fernando Tatis Jr.
(03:35):
And the Padres recently have opened up the checkbook and
really spent to build a team. Uh. It started really
in earnest with the Hosmer deal. They paid him a
hundred forty four million dollars for eight years service. That
was five years ago they signed that contract, and that
was quickly followed by the Machado deal after his half
(03:55):
season with the Dodgers after trade from the Orioles, and
that was followed with this Tati steal last season, where
you know, thirteen years, three forty million dollars was peeled
off for the superstar who has yet to see the
field this season because of a broken wrist. He didn't
report to the team with until spring training opened. So
(04:18):
it's it was. It was a exciting offseason thinking about
the prospective year to come, and it felt like a
lot of water was thrown on that excitement with the
Tatis injury. But then the season began and new skipper
Bob Melvin and the staff in San Diego have been
able to navigate a great record. They're winning a lot
(04:42):
of games and you know, really putting the focus back
on our national audience. This has become the best rivalry
in Major League Baseball, and I would be interested to
hear what other people think is the best rivalry and
right now, but there it look in in a sport
that lacks regular season urgency to have a postseason atmosphere,
(05:07):
it's it's fleeting. It's rare in any of these games.
But because there's real hatred I think between respect, but
some hatred between these two squads. When the Padres visit
l A or the Dodgers visit San Diego, it's sort
of feels like everybody who cares about this sport wants
to tune in because it reminds you of September, it
(05:31):
reminds you October. As long as the Padres are still
playing baseball, I'm sorry, that's right, Because they got chested
last year and then they well kind of disappeared. Yeah,
that's so we'll we'll see if the the new tone
uh and structure they're in and how quickly they can
get Tatis Junior back in To be as close as
(05:53):
they are to the Dodgers in the standing without him
playing is truly a big deal. I think crossed to
vision in the American League. I'd look at Yankees Astros
those those have a playoff kind of feel to them.
But in Division, Yeah, I think you're right. And part
of it is I'm in the belly of the beast,
So certainly it gets ramped up because everybody gets really
emotional and hyper and very defensive. It really gets into
(06:15):
a very strange Maybe there's a book to be written there. Rich.
I think maybe I'll look into that. I'm trying to
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do apply. All right, let's get back into it. USC
U c l A heading to the Big ten two
thousand twenty four, just two years away. We've seen the
opening Salvo Texas, Oklahoma, a lot of player movement, a
(06:58):
lot of coach movement, and I L deals, transfer portals,
all of that building alt today's announcement, to which honestly
didn't see coming. Right, We've had a lot of transfer news.
Lincoln Riley shows up, and it's all right, will the
will USC rise as a program again? And obviously for
those of us that had been in it here in
(07:20):
Los Angeles, had paid attention to the larger USC base
community and not just results on a field. They've had
nothing but scandal after scandal at that school for years,
So right, looking for any kind of bright spots. The
arrival of Lincoln Riley and and perhaps a new dawn
of football was a big deal. Well, now all of
(07:41):
a sudden, it's like hold the phone. Now we're gonna
change up conferences and so everything you've known expected, and
let's face at the Pac twelve not seen with the
any level of revenue reverence at all, right, some for
the vestiges of what USC was and some of those
great team teams and players of the past. And then Oregon,
(08:03):
which has given us some great runs. And in terms
of consistency, we've had it there Washington every now and
again Utah. But does Utah play nationally No, right, especially
when we're talking about when the game's play, And that's
one of the pack twelves bigger issues. So USC and
u c l A. By moving over to the Big ten,
(08:24):
they win there right for TV windows, not to mention
the payouts based on media contracts double what you're taking
home for your We'll call it the organization since we
just celebrated the end of the Stanley Cup final Rich
But it's one of those seismic moves that probably shatters
(08:44):
the PAC twelve. Slash ten altogether does open up a
couple of slots. But what are they sliding into now?
I agree with you, it's it's gonna be um. It's
gonna be interesting to see what the PAC twelve is now.
I keep wanting to call them the PAC ten because
they're losing two teams, But what what what they're gonna
(09:06):
go after? Are they going to go after merging with
another conference. You know, could this be some sort of
opportunity to see UH teams or conferences merge um, you know,
to become something different. Then you know, are we going
to see the PAC twelve absorbed group of five teams
and just start keep rolling on as they were prior
(09:28):
to this, you know, just with a couple of different
faces around the room. I it's so difficult to know
what direction they're gonna go in because it hasn't been
even easy to call any of these things. And what's
actually really unique about this, because there are so many
leaks in sports media, it's it's what's fascinating is how
(09:48):
quiet these stories stay and then all of a sudden boom,
within hours, announcements are made. You know, Oklahoma, Texas that
was a little more sloppy. It felt like it was
a little it came out a little bit half baked
when the story broke. But we we knew that they
were going to get the final push and that was
all gonna get sorted out and they were going to
join the SEC. But this, I mean, the writing's done,
(10:12):
you know, the deal is made. The Big ten is
sending out tweets USC and us C l A U
C L A are sending out tweets like this is
a done deal, and they were able to keep this
completely under wraps the entire time. That's probably the most
shocking part of this story is that it was just
launched on us, you know, five hours ago, and nobody
(10:33):
saw it coming. So I don't know what's next. I
I wrote it in jest, but maybe the A C C,
the Big twelve in the Pack twelve should join forces
and create a mega conference and try to sell their
rights to Amazon and call themselves the back twelve, you know,
I do you know, just combined like that. Yeah, throw
(10:55):
two seeds for the A C C. Everybody has their
little corner of the United States, you know. Uh, the
SEC spread west, the the Big ten spread west, and
then the Pack twelve and the other two conferences. You know,
they own the rest of it. I don't know, but
we're all I know is this is the landscape keeps
shifting under our feet, and I'm not sure the music
(11:17):
has stopped yet. On the on the scheme of musical chairs, Yeah,
we'll get into some of the principles and and where
they can end up. But from it, just the larger
theoretical to it rich. I mean, you had the alliance
and it was like, all right, you got the a SEC,
Big ten, PAC twelve and trying to figure out how
to navigate. Clearly, uh, someone should have gotten something on
paper if they wanted protections, because that didn't work right.
(11:41):
The pren up on the breakup didn't didn't work there
because you lost two high revenue, high academic institutions. But
that too, that's like a celebrity matter of course. But
but it's still just the the idea of all right,
we're we're gonna brainstorm of how to move into this
next phase to combat with the CEC did and the
(12:01):
Big ten just said, no, I forget it. You know,
we just want to be in battle them. And and
look every year we do the same thing. It's like,
here's all these Big ten teams. Will they be good
come the playoffs slash Bowl season O. Their teams are
built differently, and even though the offenses have changed, running
games are still a big part of what a lot
(12:21):
of those teams in the Big Ten do. When you
go into bowl games and you're trying to match speed
for speed, it only goes so far in the Big Ten,
where you're gonna be able to match up man for man, right,
we see that every year. Yeah, yeah, But but we're
also look, I mean we're we're really beyond those years
where the Big Ten has been this, you know, three
(12:43):
yards and a cloud of dust conference. I mean, all
of the old teams that used to use the ground
and pound strong defensive style of play have made their adjustments.
Steven Iowa is operating out of the no huddle. No sure.
The point I'm making is recruiting speed to no school
still lacks on a grand scale compared to the SEC.
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I would say this is if if you look, this
is this is the truth with with sports in general.
Where do free agents go when they get drafted by Milwaukee?
They go to Miami, they go to l A. You
know what I'm saying, Like warmer weather places, athletes training
warmer weather places. Athletes prefer to play in warmer weather places. Now,
(13:27):
don't get me wrong, you could have lifers playing cold
weather and in sports with domes arenas, it doesn't matter
quite as much. But in football, if you're a receiver,
where where do you think you're gonna have more six
success catching catching balls at Lambeau or you know, it's
so fie, you know those So in college it's the same.
(13:48):
Would you rather play outdoors in Minnesota for the Golden
Golfers or you know, in Baton Rouge for the l
s U Tigers. It to me that you can't change
the climate, right, so you're always going to pale in
comparison from that standpoint. But with name, image and likeness
money opening up, I bet you there is a greater
(14:11):
possibility of some of these fast five star and four
star skilled position players sticking around in Pennsylvania and playing
their school ball around the Big Ten, or you know,
going from southern California, going from Florida to one of
these Big ten schools. I'm talking about the ones in
the Midwest, in the Northeast, not the two new ones
(14:31):
out in the Southwest. Um because because that that avails
them the opportunity to collect probably more coin than they
could at some of these other competitive universities in the SEC.
Gotta figure out how to get your your ducats right,
and playing time is gonna help get you that, Uh,
no question about it. It's it is the changing landscape.
(14:52):
We'll try to pull out the crystal ball. See what
the next dominoes are in a fall as well as
you know, breaking down a little bit of the advantage
use for USC and U c l A arriving as
part of the Big Ten, what it means for them.
He's Rich Arnberger in for Jason Smith on Mike Armen
The Jason Smith Show here on Well with Mike Carmen
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(15:15):
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(15:36):
Sports Radio. My guy Rich Ornberger sliding in for Jason Smith.
You find him on Twitter. Yeah, he is to tell
Drake of Water, you know, to kick your ass. He'll
run block you down the street. I'm gonna eat that
ass up. Hold on, now, well, you know hey that
(15:58):
you do what you're gonna do. That's Jason's best Mike
Tomlin impression. I've I've I've hung up the cleats and
I'm done run blocking. But I will say this, my
wrestling career has just began. Anybody with two rambunctious boys,
and I've got two under ten right now. I got
(16:18):
a seven year old and a four year old buddy.
I mean, it is legitimately a WW match before bed
every single night. And uh and I don't know. As
the years go on, I'm starting to feel myself getting
getting a little overmatched, especially when they when they tag
team up on me. Well you know what if soon
(16:40):
as the foreign objects show up, you're in trouble. Yeah yeah,
I haven't been belted with a chair yet. But don't
I mean, like, don't give him ideas. That's the I
will say this. I've got two girls. And for a while,
you know, it was a little bit of the rough housing,
but the bigger thing became a you know the complex,
you know condo complex had a pool, has a pool,
and when they were smaller, it was the a can
(17:02):
your body slam me, press slam me, throw me all
that stuff. My shoulders are so bad. Like I know,
to throw a ball now and it just slumps and
then my left arm is you know, far lower, left shoulder,
far lower than my right shoulder for the rest of
the day. It really is kind of frightening orn laboram
or something. They're rich, you're gonna have to go on
(17:24):
the I L extended. No, it just means I'm not
throwing anybody anymore. Really, the the bigger deal there, I'm
gonna throw this out there. What do you what do
you think about? And and let's put odds on it, like,
you know, because this is all gonna happen relatively fast,
and I'm not talking about weeks and maybe it'll be
beginning of next week. But what would you put the
(17:47):
odds on Kyrie in l A. We could probably actually
find real odds for that right now. Yeah, yeah, I'm
I'm I'm actually some book has got to have. But
but you personally like, let's see if it matches up. Well, well,
we're searching that. What would you think? Yeah? Maybe higher?
(18:10):
No kidding, yeah, right now, they're the favorite to be
the team he plays his first minutes for. In courtesy
of DraftKings Sports Book. Oh wow, how about that? So
it goes Lakers the nets than Mavericks. That's fantastic. Then
the Clippers, and the reason why it is is frankly
(18:30):
just for the story, Like you know, like, here's the
thing I love about the n b A. There is
obviously transcendent talent. I mean what we see Steph Curry
do to win a finals championship in an m v
P is bananas. I mean, the guy can hit shots
routinely from the logo. He's done this for a decade now.
Plus it's just absurd, uh, Kevin Durant. For a guy
(18:56):
who's seven feet tall and has had an achilles rupture
to be able to still break on the basketball and
create room and dribble drive the way he's able to,
uh is just absurd. I mean, there's no other way
to put Lebron James. He's ageless and he's approaching forty.
(19:16):
But the off season has this soap opera field to it,
and the fact that Kyrie and Lebron had the falling
out in Cleveland, and Kyrie had a flute fly the
Klute coupe, and he wanted to branch out on his
own and try a couple of new ventures without Lebron,
and then them coming back together and being paired up
(19:39):
with potentially uh, a D. I would assume Ross would
have to be involved in the trade for him to
go uh to l A. It's just it's it's just
a soap opera now, But that's just it. It's it's
a soap opera during the year, particularly now that you
got guys doing everything they can to chirp and clap
back at media, right and starting all the w w
(20:00):
E like fights like we were talking about earlier. Right,
So it's all right, let's keep this going. Even on
a night where you don't have games and whatever, you're
the topic of conversation. Hell, look at it all year long, Rich,
I mean the the Nets what we're the seven seed
and Kyrie didn't play, but what twenty nine regular season games?
(20:23):
K D missed some time? Go to the Warriors, guys
missed time. The Lakers were an absolute train wreck. But
what did we do? We watched every bit of it.
It might as well have been another episode of General
Hospital or as as the world turns. All right, what's
the latest rumor what's the And it's great for business, right,
it gives us something to talk about, fans something to
(20:43):
yell about or get excited about in some respects, right,
Memphis rising up, although Jackson Jr. Going out for four
to six months, that's not news. You want. This free
agency begins coming off the monster season that they had,
and then you you think of it from the angle
of like, okay, so you get over the the storyline
(21:04):
of them reuniting and I'm sure everybody's gonna play nice
in the sandbox, especially at first, but then you start
thinking about, well, what does this actually mean for the
Lakers and what does it actually look like for the Lakers?
Is there enough room for Kyrie on that roster? You know,
can Lebron and him coexist together? You know, look, Kyrie
(21:24):
with all the I mean the the oddness of this season,
with the vaccine mandates put on employees in New York
and the fact that he didn't want to, you know,
get the vaccine and it affected his team. You know,
he's not exactly going to a city that that that
has more relaxed mandates. You know, it's it's gonna be
(21:47):
interesting to see if any of that hangs over the
Lakers head. On the other side, it doesn't seem like
it will. But I guess we can't predict predict if
you can predict the last couple of years. You're a
better person than I. That's that's for sure. John Gambadro
at Gambo seven. Uh, folks tweeting at him a long
(22:08):
time in Phoenix asking about Kyrie, but hearing Lakers for
RUSS a first round pick and a pick swap with
maybe another player involved, maybe Joe Harris. Well you know me,
I love me some Joe Harris. Those that have listened
to the show the last few weeks, hell, the last
couple of years, Uh, no, I recognize because think about
(22:28):
the Nets missed him. He played fourteen games. There's a
guy that back to back years was a three point
shooter and is suddenly not on the court. In addition
to what was going on with Kyrie, Now remember you
you did the run up with the last couple of
years for Kevin Durant. If he wasn't wearing clown shoes,
maybe they beat Milwaukee and move on. But when we
(22:50):
look at it, yeah, that what Gambadro puts out is
right because it falls in line with the news of
the day, which is Kevin Durant wants out of Brooklyn,
right us. Look, if we're gonna swap these guys, I mean,
it's fun here you go, you know what to make
right with the world and solve the past and let
bygones being bygones. And this is an edict from the
(23:13):
basketball gods, Lebron, you have to play with Kyrie again
and Russ, you and k Kad need to resolve your issues.
I mean, that'd be delicious theater. You want to talk
about soap operas. But that trade makes sense with Kevin
Durant saying I'm out well well and and to your
point like so, so this is this is actually making
(23:37):
the picture a lot more clear, right, you know. So
you're the Brooklyn Nets and you're trying to get either
Katie and Kyrie to stick around or you're going to
try to trade Kyrie for us and some draft picks
so you can build around Katie. Well, Katie may be
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cool with playing with Kaie read, but he's certainly not
cool with the idea of having to play with Russ
again and rebuild with with that, you know, remarriage. You know.
So it makes it just like all the pieces are
starting to make sense now, like what we've seen in
free agency, it was blockbuster news. Kevin Durant he wants
(24:20):
out of Brooklyn here's his list of teams that he'd
prefer to go. Everybody's like, whoa, why is this happening? Well,
all of a sudden, it makes sense because if for
us ends up in Brooklyn with a draft picker too,
and Kyrie reunites with uh Lebron in l A, now
now it all makes sense. Well, that's the reason why
why Kevin Durant wanted out because he didn't want okay
(24:42):
see part two. He wants to go and play, you know,
in a in an atmosphere, in a city, or with
teammates who he hasn't had prior poor experiences with. It's
about as likely as Kevin Durant teaming up with Russell
Westbrook as it is him teaming back up with Draymond Green,
which is to say it's not happening. Yeah, we like
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rich Oran Burger is in. Uh Smith, if you happen
to be listening out and about Tisher said, get the
popcorn ready, he'll be there by midnight. As Stranger Things,
(26:09):
the fourth season, Part two releases this evening, rich are
you in on all this? You know what? I haven't
gotten into Stranger Things. Yeah, he had a good run.
But I but I will say this, it's not for
lack of interest, because I I look for for probably
(26:31):
a solid two weeks span. I wasn't going to succumb
to squid games. Like I said, there's no way that
doesn't interest me. I'm not a subtitle guy. I just
I'm not gonna be able to hang. And then somebody
commenced me, well, just watch the dubbed version, and I did,
and Buddy, I don't know if you ended up watching
(26:53):
squid Games, but it was phenomenal. So like I I've
I've gotten off of this, like oh, I'm I'm above this.
I'm about like no, no, no, no. At some point,
I'm I promise you Tisher, I'm gonna get around to
watching Stranger Things. It just hasn't made its way onto
the to the queue yet. Rich. No, this every episode
is at least an hour in ten minutes. There was
(27:15):
four seasons. I've never watched. I watched it all in
a week. You're gonna love it, really, so it's that addictive.
It's season one. I am behind. I was not not
for lack of wants. You know, the girls started watching
it without me. Oh you got left in the dusk.
I got left in the dust. I got other things
to do too, you know, trying to keep Smith in
(27:36):
line each night here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm into
I'm I need a new show. And and somebody said, uh,
and this is another one that may blow certain people's mind.
Ted Lasso never got into it, never saw you Bloody
of time before season three gets underway here. People love it,
they tell me all the time. It's fantastic, it's terrific,
(27:58):
and uh, it's something that I need to get into.
Let's see, I enjoyed that Gilded Age Barry of course, Yeah,
that was fantastic. Uh but you know, to go back
to the whole squid game thing and you said, I
don't know if you've seen it. Yeah, it's it's I'll
give you the answer. The new Jordan Peele movie that's
coming out is titled Nope, and I won't see either
(28:18):
of those. Uh so, wait a second, are you is
that a genre you won't touch? You won't touch like horror? No, no, no,
I'll do some of it. So like you've got to
intrigue me and that, and if it gets overhyped, the
less likely I am to jump off. But that's that's
where because I don't want to. I don't want to
(28:39):
be cheap because now everybody wants me and they try
to sell me. Like Jason sometimes he'll get any We
had a big argument about this the other night. Right,
he tries to sell you on a show and if
you don't watch it, you're a lesser person. Well it's
not that you're like you know what it is though,
I I know you're feeling right there. Sometimes it pays
to be punk rock, like you're you almost feel like,
(29:01):
all right, if all the cool kids are doing this
and I try to be the cool kid, I look
lamer because I'm trying to catch up with the cool kids.
But you know what, the there is something about the mob,
like they yeah, the mob can get things wrong, but
if you have a million people coming up to and
telling you how good Squid Games is or how good
Ted Lasso is. Those are my two examples recently, or
(29:21):
stranger things like this conversation started like eventually, yeah, all right,
because I did the same thing with Breaking Bad, like
everybody was into Breaking Bad. Walter White, Oh you're gonna
love it. I'm like, what is it? He's a science teacher,
he cooks meth. What the hell? And I just I
acted like I was too cool for school and Harmon.
I kicked myself for not seeing you, no, Boddy. I
(29:43):
tried to sell everybody on that when it first started,
like yeah, have you had no interest? And then eventually
became the biggest thing in the world. But the big
thing for me is, right if if everybody's on board,
and look, there was as we celebrate the Elvis movie
being out in theaters. That's one of the things the
girls and I will be doing on Sunday, catching up
a little after Madeline's whole Dallas sojourn. Is the idea
(30:06):
that he had an album that was forty million Elvis
fans can't be wrong, right, based on how many albums
have been sold estimated at that point uh in the career,
and I just equated to one cinematic experience that really
reinforced the if the mob really wants you to watch
something that I can't do it because I go in
(30:27):
expecting greatness. And that was the matrix where I wanted
to throw a rock through my television screen about twenty
minutes in Wait. You didn't like the may hate it,
hated it, but everybody did such a hard sell on it,
and I went in wanting to love it to the
point where it's like I don't even I don't even
know I hate you know what I'm also I consider
(30:50):
myself like like kind of you know, look what I'm
I'm a happy idiot like I when it comes to entertainment,
Like you know, they still have that back for tomorrow
that I really am, Like I, I'm easily entertained, you
know what I mean. So you know whether it's like
the little wind up monkey with the symbols clashing, Yeah,
(31:11):
you know so I remember I remember walking into a
perfect example the movie Avatar when that came out. I
hate that. That's one I hated more than the majors.
And and there were so many people like you who
said this was overhyped, this and that I walked out
of there like I think my life has been changed.
I love it visually, it's stunning, but I actually had
(31:32):
people in the movie theater. I went and saw the
Black Phone and the trailer started. People started booing exactly.
He's Rich Ornberger in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carmen
to Jason smith Shall with Mike Harmon here in Fox
Sports Radio, streaming options for me and Rich get a man.
Ad Ornberger ats one window, cut it up next, Tea
leads for a couple of schools, And how do you
(31:54):
backfill the pack twelve or does it just dissolve? We'll
talk next be sure to catch live at editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio ALAP. Welcome in final couple of
minutes of the show. Coming up in ten minutes, You've
got Ben Maller taking you into your Friday morning. I'm
(32:17):
sure he's got plenty of thoughts, particularly when it comes
to Laker historians, as he likes to call them, getting
excited about all the news and rumors of the day.
Mike Garment alongside Rich Hornberger here the Jason Smith Show
with Mike Garment, Fox Sports Radio. Rich will be in
again tomorrow. A guy who played in the Big Ten
and he's got he's a man with thoughts just like
(32:39):
well you would expect here as you're on air at
Fox Sports Radio. Rich. So, and that really wasn't as
big as cell as I'd hoped to be. But when
it comes down to it, you know, we we get
this radical realignment right too, big Southern California's schools leave
the pack twelve for the Big Ten. Now it's a
question does a Big ten keep expanding? Reports are tonight
(33:00):
you had seven or more teams, some of them from
the Pack twelve writing calling, putting in more or less
applications to the Big ten to say what about us?
And you have to wonder, I think to some degree,
ore Agon, Washington or those two of the teams. We
wonder what happens with Notre Dame in this next game
(33:21):
of musical chairs. But for the Pack twelve, you know,
in terms of just dissolving altogether, what what is the
next generation of the Pack twelve. And you work for
San Diego State, I gotta feel they're they're starting to
print Pack twelve merchandise. Well, if there is a Pack twelve,
because to your point, if this continues the way it
(33:44):
potentially could continue like that, maybe it was just the
opening salvo with USC in U c L, a jumping ship,
like a billion dollar network deal with Fox split twenty
ways is fifth the million dollars per team. If it's
a twenty team conference, they're up to six team right now.
(34:05):
What slows this down? I mean, I could potentially see Stanford, Oregon, Washington,
maybe Colorado joining the Big ten. Also, I mean, look,
I I I sincerely doubt that this has done, is
my point, And I don't know if that means the
Big Ten is going to continue to uh, you know,
(34:26):
add teams, or if it's going to be that se
See making another announcement, or you know, maybe the Pact
twelve is going to try to absorb some group of
five teams to make up for what they've lost. Who
knows what's next. But yeah, the one thing that is
constant in college football right now has changed. That's what
I can tell you for certain. Yeah, I think the
(34:47):
big thing here is, you know, you keep pushing through
trying to read the tea leaves and the dominoes defall
and and just recognize that, uh, you know when you
always want to buy distress properties. Rich right when some
he's having an issue, that's the time to swoop in
and see if you can do that. And the conferences
are lining up and ready to pounce. He's Rich. I'm
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