July 4, 2022 • 49 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are in for Dan Patrick and the Danettes on this very special Best of 4th of July edition of The Dan Patrick Show! Jeanie Buss sends out a very cryptic tweet and the guys try and dissect every portion of it. NFL Insider and host of the Pull Up Pod with CJ McCollum Jordan Schultz joins the guys to discuss Jeanie’s tweet and more on Deshaun Watson. Plus, LA Times & Lakers Insider Dan Woike joins Jason and Mike to discuss Kyrie to the Lakers rumors and more from the NBA!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show
here on Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith alongside my bass
friend Mike Harmon. Hey buddy, Happy fourth of July. Mike Harmon,
are you are you? Are you lighting sparklers like that
guy on the internet at the wedding that that almost
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burned out an entire wedding. It's it's a happy, happy day. No,
I'm not overserved just yet. A couple of cups of
coffee in, but you know, rallying for what is a
big day of sporting events, gluttony and tweet storms that
we have to decipher. It's a beautiful morning. Thank you
Genie Bus for starting our day off right. Uh yeah,
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we got a big story Genie Buss cryptically tweeting at
midnight about Kobe Bryant and the state of the Lakers.
Will have that coming up later on this hour. Big
story about k D in a couple of minutes. But
I mean, really, when you talk about sports, you know
analytics and what we need to know here on the
fourth of July. My Carmen coming up later on today
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will be the fourth of July. Hot Dog eating contest
and Joey Chestnut will defend his title on crutches. Yeah,
I know over under set at seventy four and a
half now does does this injury because he you know,
he has a leg injury, it's a foot injury. His
foot is in a cast. Does this affect how many
hot dogs he eats? And more importantly, what's the fantasy
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fallout of this injury to Joey Chestnut? Well, one of
the big questions is what is normal training regiment? Is?
I can't claim that I know it terribly well, but
the idea is maybe maybe he hasn't gotten his treadmill
work in. Maybe some of the stuff he does in
a normal routine heading up to the event is just
thrown askew. Right, All it takes is a little bit
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to take you off your game. I'm trying to think
of the times, because you know, I like to eat.
I'm trying to think of the times, not that I've
been sick, because being sick is one thing when you
have no appetite. I'm trying to think like the times
that I've been hurt, Like if I've I've sprained something
where if it's affected my appetite and I just haven't
felt like eating, and I can't remember I don't remember
that ever happening to me that you know, Hey, I
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did this to my wrist or you know, my knee
is a little stiff, and I really can't eat. So
I don't know. I think eating you might be impervious
to it. If you if you're dinged up somehow, you're
still gonna be able to eat. Yeah, but maybe you've
been gluttonizing in a bad way, right, self medicating with food,
whereas normally it's your profession, that's an easy thing to do.
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I mean, I've been doing that for you know, a
long long time. But legitimately, maybe you know, you decided
you're gonna have that extra big mac with extra sauce
and extra cheese, right because it's too two for a deal.
I don't know what the cost is everywhere else, but
I mean two for six here in California, that's about
as good a deal as you're finding in terms of
your your gluttony. And maybe you eat that second one
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instead of passing it on to a friend or family member.
And maybe he's succumbed to that a little bit. Maybe
he's taking something for the pain and it throws him off.
I don't know, there's a lot of variable that if
YA was setting the odds and trying to figure it
out as a degenerate gambler and wagering money on chestnut today,
I'd want to know the answer to those questions. That's tough.
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I mean it really really and we need, you know,
we need to look like some insider kind of access
on this, Like I'm looking for competitive eaters online who
are saying things like, oh, this injury is gonna you know,
maybe he'll lead about five less hot dogs or all.
That's gonna completely throw things off, and maybe standing is
gonna be difficult for him. I need that kind of analysis. Well,
we do know the dynastic run that he's on. I mean, look,
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we got all gushy and excitable about the Warriors, and
when I screw that, this guy now, this guy, I mean,
Hosi missed one of the last fifteen years. I mean,
you're talking about a decade and a half of dominance. Yeah,
I forgot about the Warriors and Steve Kerr. This is yeah,
this is this even this is much bigger than that. Absolutely.
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Uh So more on the hot dog eating content again,
the fantasy fall out of this is is you know,
tacularly vivid. So let's you know, hopefully we'll get some
breakdown of that as well. But yes, Kevin Durant and
the Warriors are making headlines right now. Mark Spears ESPN
insider tweeted out late yesterday that the Warriors have interest
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in trading for Kevin Durant. Just think about this just now.
Let's just think about this for a sec because this
is fun. Kevin Durant who wanted to get away from
the Warriors because he wasn't getting enough credit for winning
a championship, because that's what Ken this is going to
focus on. This gets into what's what really, Katie is
all about Kevin Durant, who wasn't getting enough craw was
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in the best basketball position of his career, winning titles,
winning NBA finals, MVPs, Nope, nope, not enough for him.
I gotta go someplace where I can be the guy
where no one can criticize me for winning a title
because it's gonna have to be on my back, right.
No one can say to me, well you had staff,
or well you had to because Kevin Durant, it's to
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craziness on social media way too much, because no matter
what you do, you're going to get the anti storyline.
Either Kevin Durant it was all you and boy Steph
Curry is not nearly as good as we thought he was,
or now it's oh, hey, Steph Curry is as good
as we thought he was. They won without Kevin Durant. Now,
Kevin Durant, it's your fault. He's not going back to
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Golden State, all right, But people are forgetting in a
situation like this, is that NBA stars, superstars have all
the power, and if they try to trade him to
Golden State, Kevin Durant is gonna say I don't want
to go. And what's the fall out gonna be If
you try to put the trade through. It'll get messy
and they'll say I'm not going. Because NBA players are
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using not playing as leverage. We see that now all
the time. Coming back from injury. Hey, so and so
was cleared to play, Jamal Murray was cleared to play
the end of the season. Michael Malone was saying, more ready,
you want to come back, last game of the season,
get some time on NOLPE. Not gonna play. Ben Simmons
didn't play all you go back to Kauai Kawhi letter
not but going back to his time in San Antonio. Yeah,
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it is a strategy that players are okay with. Look,
they still love playing basketball one, but they're okay with
not playing as a strategy if it helps them. And
if Kevin Durant says, well, I'll miss twenty games here
and there, I'll miss twenty games because they'll trade me
at some point, Yeah, I'm okay with that. So that's
the whole thing is that, Yeah, you can trade him
and for all the Hey, they could trade him wherever
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they want to, and they'll send him to Sacramento, they
can send him to Detroit, they can send it. He's
just not gonna go And there's no way he's gonna
go back to Golden State. That just not gonna happen.
I mean for us, it would be great, right because
he could be on Draymond's podcast, they could get in
fistfights and actually we get video of it. Will be
all be so awesome for us. It would be great
for Kevin Durant, not so much. If they say, hey,
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Golden State, he's gonna say, yeah, not going do whatever
you want to do, and I'll just wait until you
get me to a place where I can play basketball. Yeah,
I mean just following the different reports that come out
there right from the Hey, this thing is really heated
up to sign No. Hey, it's all preliminary. And this
is Hayinges backing up a little bit, right, former former
guest of ours and for years here on the network
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at Fox Sports Radio, and certainly everybody's choosing their words carefully,
particularly when it comes to Kevin Durant. I think like
one of the things of keeping access to a lot
of these guys is changing how reporting's done a little
a little differently. You know, once upon a time it
was the beat writers. Now it's even the inside. It's like,
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all right, I want to get this one completely wrong,
so let's just keep throwing stuff up against the wall.
And all it takes is one guy to say, you
know what this or a woman or whoever's working in
the front office saying hey, this could work, and all
of a sudden, the next rumor pops up. Now, for
Kevin Durant, it's all the introspection. What do you believe?
He truly is, Like I've been telling you for weeks,
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I think it's all. All of this is just a
big wwe work now and again between all the Twitter
ef that guys have and they little bits that they
put out there. Like Durant went back and forth with
a reporter at the end of the week and it
coming into the weekend is like, all right, what is
any of this stuff that you tweeted me? And he goes, well,
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what do you mean? And he he goes, how about
you answer one of these three questions and he goes, no,
keep dreaming, my guy. That kind of thing. It's like,
you know, stop using your medium, minions and whoever else
to get your your message out. Because at this point,
Kevin Durant's starting to look like Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.
They haven't said anything until they do. All right, it's
all just all right, let's see what the messages and
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let's manipulate things and let's have people talk about me
and my greatness for a while. So I think that's
that's a giant chunk. But going back to Golden State,
I mean, I don't know where he is. Maybe he's
come to some sort of inner piece. I mean, I
don't buy that for a second. I got like Aaron Donald,
who was at peace about retirement, that's right until the
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contract showed up and I was like, Okay, I'm feeling
I feel it better about going out and wrecking people
on the football field. Again with KD, going back to
Golden State would be the antithesis of everything he's been
reported to be, because again, at no point has he
ever said that, right, He responded after the Warriors won
the title by you know, people starting to troll, I'm going, look,
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I've been dead since the day I signed there, right,
this doesn't do anything the legacy and whatever else you
guys all buried me. So does that mean he just
kind of shrugs and it rolls off or does it
eat away at him? And trying to figure that out?
Hey have fun, just figure out which burner account it's
coming from Twitter at how about a fresca? Mike gets swollen? Dumb?
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Jason Smith Mike Harmon in for Dan Patrick today, Happy
fourth of July. Now, so, if it's not going to
be Golden Sticks, there's just no way. I mean, look
like I said, it would be fantastic. But but Jason, likewise,
you know the fact that the report comes out saying,
well he wants to go to Miami and Phoenix or Phoenix.
How does that help with the you know, if he's
really that affected by you know, I'm joining a great
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team psychology that allegedly there even though they haven't gotten
over and they were still number one seeds. Well that's
the thing, is his view of himself and what he need.
This is why Golden State doesn't work, because if he
goes to Golden State and they win, it's gonna be
They were great with him, they were great without him,
because that's kind of what it is now. They were
great with him when they needed them. But the NBA
hasn't really improved the last couple of years. It's kind
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of been in stasis, which is why the Warriors are
able to win two years past their peak. I mean,
you're talking about them coming back this year when Clay
hadn't played in two years. It hadn't really made any
big additions to the team except for younger players are ascending,
which happens throughout the league, and they were able to
win the title. Oh, those role players came up huge,
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it did. They did. Looney's probably the best bargain in
in all a free agency in the point two billion
dollars that's been spent. Uppy second. But usually when when
when players, you know, in every offseason, players wove around,
it tilts the balance of power in the NBA. And
for the Warriors to come back and and win behind
the same players they won three years ago on, that
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usually doesn't happen that much. So it's gonna be for
KDS who, well, he won with him, now he won
without him. Okay, it happened, but he needs to go
somewhere where they're ready to win, obviously, but it's got
to be a situation in which if that team wins,
you say, Kevin Durant led them here, and a team
like Phoenix who has been close a couple of times
but doesn't have enough, needs Kevin Durant to come in
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and he would say, see, they won because of me.
The Miami Heat, who have been close a couple of
times but haven't gotten over the top, they won because
of me. So he's going to be someone to take
a team that hasn't won and won. But look, it's
all about Kevin Durant and how he feels about his image.
So that's where that's why, Hey, Miami and Phoenix are
at the top. Why because they're both really good teams
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in each conference and they both are very close to winning.
And I can be that guy. I can be the
guy to come in and take them over the top,
and then I will get the credit for being the
winner that I was because it didn't work in Brooklyn
where we had nothing and I show up and Okay,
it's my team. And I came in with Kyrie and
then we had Harden and we moved on and we still,
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oh wow, this was too much of a rebuilding thing
for me because we had to build around me with
a couple of players and it didn't work out. I
need to go to a team where the situation is
perfect and I can go in and be the leader.
But this is a bigger point about Durant Mike, is
that we just spent time talking about him winning at
Golden State and everything was there. Do you really think
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wherever he goes he's going to be happy because he
has had all kinds of different situations that he's been
in the NBA and all have cowtow to him, and
still he can't find happiness. Right. He was there in
Oklahoma City for a long time and the power he
exerted while he was there. Remember the mister unreliable that
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was written about him, complete opposite of mister unlimited, right,
not yet not mister unlimited Russell Wilson, mister unreliable Kevin Durant.
What happened when that went out in the Oklahoma City papers?
The newspaper had to apologize for the headline. I think
they made that guy and just started making copies in
the back. I don't think he got to write anymore. Yeah,
he was a cop. He was Rob Schneider. He was
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a copy guy waiting and making copies. So he had
a great situation there, but he wanted to get away
from Russell Westbrook. Okay, that wasn't happy enough for him.
So what does he do? He goes to the Golden
State Warriors. Hey, Golden State, which is the destination for
anybody in the NBA. Everybody loves playing for Steve Kerr.
You know, Steph Curry is someone who will take his
ego and push it aside a bit, which he did
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for Kevin Durant to come in and he won championships there,
probably would have won a third one if he didn't
get hurt and blow out as Achilles No, couldn't get
along with Draymond, wanted to go prove himself. Didn't like
that people said, oh, he just piggybacked on the Warriors.
So now he goes to Brooklyn where it's his show. Dude,
it's you, it's Kyrie. Go do your thing. And they
can't even get to a conference final and it blows
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up some much. They have to trade James Harden, Ben
Simmons never sees the floor. Kyrie is unhappy, doesn't even
make it to the games half the time. Kevin Durant
has no power in telling, hey, Kyrie, we're trying to
win a championship here, so tell me where he goes next.
He's going to be happy because he's had all different
kinds of situations where Okay, I'm the king in Oklahoma City, Nope,
not happy here. Okay, hey, I'm going and I'm winning.
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I'm winning championships in my legacy. I'm doing legacy stuff
in Golden State. Nope, not happy there. No, I'm in Brooklyn.
I'm in the number one media market in the country
and we're building the team around me and I'm here. Nope,
not happy here. How's he going to be happy someplace?
Elsie goes. He has had different situations where hey, we're
giving this to you, and he hasn't been happy through
wherever he goes. Do we really think that destination is
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going to be the place where he's gonna say, this
is where I should have played basketball along, this is
where I should have got this is where I should be.
I don't see it now. It all comes back to
the song sung by the great Clay Calloway for those
of you that aren't as well in touch with your
children's films as I am. That's Bonos singing, Guys, I
haven't found where I'm looking for. All the money, fame
riches in the world, your soul may still want something,
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whether it's credit, whether it's just a little bit of
love and a hug and a pat on the back.
And I think Kevin Durant continues to search for that
and that he may never find it. I hope he does,
but I'm with you, I don't think it's there. All
those situations, all those different accolades and prestige and titles
and millions and millions of dollars made on the court
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and off the court through his connections made in the
Silicon Valley doesn't matter, still hasn't found what he's looking for.
Did you really go sing too? I did not sing?
You went? You went sing too? That was still heaven.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAP. Joining
us now in the hotline for more on this odyssey,
NFL Inside or one oh five seven The Game and
Baltimore Jason Locke and for it Jay Happy fourth man.
How's it going? I am, I am doing well. I'm
actually at the beach and I was in the ocean,
which is why I didn't hear my phone one of
my children who never wants to get the ocean. So
(16:14):
I apologize. I was a little late. But yeah, happy
for everybody. Welcome in. No, it's all good. I see.
Were you in the ocean? Like opening baseball cards? Like?
Were you doing that? I don't think that would be
good for the environment or the or the value of
the cards. Well, I don't know. They make it with
a lot of plastic and metal anymore. You might be okay, yeah,
I don't Yeah, So no, none of that, none of that.
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Here a time in place for every Ye all right,
so hey, so we were talking about the latest on
to Shaun Watson and and where we could wind up
seeing a decision and is it Is it anything less
than a year when it comes down to it, like, well,
what are you hearing? How this is going to end up?
I don't I don't think so. Um, I don't think
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he plays football this year. And as we said in
the past during some of our chats on Monday evening,
I'm less than convinced he ever plays for the Cleveland Browns.
I need to see it to believe it. There are
so many moving pieces here, so many variables, so much
still unknown, and so much that still continues to come out.
And when you have the number of these, I guess
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you call them clandestine interactions. And so many are known
within a such a short period of time, I don't
know how anyone could feel a sense of closure. But
and there's obviously four cases outstanding in the civil you know,
the civil proceedings, the amount of anecdotal evidence against him,
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the amount of testimony that would accuse him of outright
crimes in many instances, and knowing that the league, yes,
this is a different process than in the past, but
the personal conduct policy grants a wide swath of interpretation
whomever m Goodell, Robinson or whoever is sitting um sort
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of a top of the disciplinary pyramid. Yeah. I think
the Cleveland Browns um took a considerable risk here and
and I don't expect them to be rewarded for it
for a long time. So the potential there, and reading
into the start of what's said there, Jason is potentially
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avoiding of that contract altogether. Depending on how this flows. Well,
I don't know if they're going to be able to
get away with that well, but I mean pay out
and be done well? Yeah? Or I mean again, is
this a situation where he suspended indefinitely and between now
and the start of the twenty twenty three NFL season?
You know what? I mean? What more? What more comes out?
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What other allegations are there? Are there other civil proceedings
that have since been filed? Um? I mean what does
this bring out in him? You know? I mean the
bottom line is, I don't think even his agency has
done any sort of true behavioral study of what's going
on here. Why were there all these interactions? What was
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this really about? What did this sem from what would
lead us to believe this is behind it? Was he
in some way trying to get caught Like I don't
know this, but the Cleveland Browns, I know absolutely positively
or not privy to any of that sort of I
don't know that he's ever sat down and for any
sort of true psychological study as to what's going on here,
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and how do we know it's going it's over, or
how do we know it doesn't manifest itself in some
other sort of behavioral pattern that also runs a foul
of the personal conduct of policy. I mean, I just
think I know I'm not smart enough to say I've
got a full handle on this, Like I get why
he did it, exactly what he was doing, what he
hoped to accomplish, what it was about, and why it's
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necessarily behind him, you know. So I I'm just sort
of playing the under on all of this. And if
people want to want to hazard guesses is the way
he's going to play or even what that's going to
look like this is going to bring out in him
on a football field. Whenever that happens, I just don't know,
And I'm sort of of the mindset that I'll start
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sort of worried about that when I see him where,
you know, in a Cleveland Browns jersey, playing in an
NFL regular season game for the first time, and I
don't think that's going to happen for quite some time,
if it happens at all. Jason Lockett for with us
here Fox Sports Radio. Jason Spent Mike Harmon in for
Dan Patrick. All right, now, the next thing, which is
which is everybody's favorite offseason conversation, because I feel like
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we're contracted to have this is either about Baker Mayfield
or Jimmy Garoppolo. Look, Mayfield says, both sides have moved on.
Garoppolo is starting a throwing program. Are we going to
get resolutions for their playing situations anytime soon? I don't
necessarily think so. And really nothing's changed with either of
these since the combine, which it was around the combine
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when it became clear to anybody paying attention that's that
the Sorry Mayfield relationship with the Browns was reaching a
point in no return. And that's also when we found
out that Garoppolo had elected for you know, surgery on
a selling shoulder, and the market's been limited all along.
I think you're looking at you know, the Panthers, and
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you're looking at the Seahawks, and I don't see the
holding Niners and Seahawks making the trade for a twenty
five million dollars starting quarterback. And I also think the
Seahawks would prefer Baker Mayfield at a far lower price
point because the Browns are going to have to eat
more than half that contract off the million one. It's
all set and done to subsidize moving Baker Mayfield because
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everybody knows the predicament they're in. He's making nineteen million bucks.
He can't go back there. They're already got a payroll
approaching three hundred million dollars on a two hundred and
eight million dollar cap, so nobody's in it to help.
Jimmy has them out. He went head over fees for
this to Shawn Watson thing, so he's spending all that
money go go eat. You know, you want to pay
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him nineteen to do nothing, or you want to pay
him twelve to get something back in return and move
him off your books and save seven. You know, that's
where it is. It's where it's always been, and I
think Seattle will ultimately win that that transaction at their
place point. You know, on Garoppolo, if you can't if
you can't throw, I mean, nobody's always training for you.
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You know, you couldn't pass a physical right now, you
couldn't go out and practice tomorrow. He's not gonna be
practiced fully at the end of this month when training
cans open. So I do think Carolina is desperate enough
to take a flyer on him at some point, but
the timing has certainly been thrown askew by the nature
of that surgery. Jason Smith, Mike Harment with you here
(22:52):
the Dan Patrick Show, Jason, Locke and Ford joining us
one oh five seven the Fan in Baltimore. Also at
Jason Lockin for where you find him on Twitter, longtime
NFL insider. All right, then we get back into the league.
Lees out your way there, Jason with Daniel Snyder and
all the character referenced letters that are coming out. Did
(23:13):
you get asked to write one yet? I mean, because
all we've gotten from them at this point is a
statement from going up against the Washington Post. Can anybody
be smirching the name? And then just letter after letters saying, hey,
the last two years have been great? What does it mean?
In the grand scheme, nothing but it's good read. Yeah,
(23:33):
this is a guy who's you know, had been a
PR nightmare, had nothing but bad press for good reason,
you know, since he thought the team and it's all
based on his words and his options, and you know
they were There was the proceedings on Capitol Hill, and
then they released some of the documents and I kept
unfortunately a lot of them were redacted because I really
(23:53):
wanted to see the file they kept on me, right
because I covered them for five years for the Washington Post,
and I know the kind of bizarre, razy kakamani non
like untrue letters that their lawyers would send to the
Washington Post all the time about me just making things up,
completely fabricating events and fights and stolen playbooks. You wouldn't
(24:15):
believe it if you saw it. So I know, you
know what they're capable of. I know how he and
his lawyers act, and it's gotten them nowhere to this point,
and it is not going to get them them anywhere.
And at some point he's going to have to testify
on Capitol Hill and it'll be a complete utter disaster
because he can't have quit himself in a conversation normally
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with people he doesn't know that well, or in many cases,
even with people he does know pretty well, he can
still be absurdly awkward. So that the specter of him
going before politicians you know who are who are investigating
him for significant misdeeds and of quitting himself, well, I
think is a damn near impossibility. He's on Twitter at
(24:58):
Jason Locke and four that is at Jason locking for Also,
if you're at the beach, you can ask him any
baseball card question you want. He will answer for you,
unless he is in the ocean. You're going back in
the water. Now you're going back in the water. I
was about to get back in. Can you hear the
waves crash? That's good? I did that. We are glow
at NPR level ambience sound. That's what I'm all about.
(25:21):
It's great. Makes me wish I was there with you.
But but yeah, yeah, well dude, have fun. Man, we'll
talk to you next week. Got me fourth, Jason say,
there goes Jason lock and forth I come out of
the water. I'm gonna tell you about Daniel Snyder. We're
gonna talk to and then I'm going back in the
water talking about investing in some Baltimore Orioles Prospects and
(25:42):
then move on. Can you imagine what that must have
been like if you were, like, you know, near him
on the beach. You're going, this guy is really fired up.
He's talking about the NFL on his phone to somebody.
Have you never done that he stepped out of a restaurant,
out into the street or a bar, or been publicly
where you had to suddenly take an interview quest. I've
done that. My kids hate me, absolutely hate me, because
(26:03):
all of a sudden, you got people standing around. And
it's not that you get a huge crowd, but you
start having people just stopping, phones come out. It's like,
what's going on here? And my kids can't get away
fasted on it. It's funny every one alone time, I
just pretend I'm taking an interview call and just start yelling,
oh you know, oh wow, now that now that that's
(26:24):
a good strategy. I like that. I like that strategy
because it's a public embarrassment. That's the one thing. My
kids have a lot of, you know, different differences in
their personalities and their likes. Right in terms of TV shows, movies, whatever,
there's a lot of common ground. But when it comes
to the thing that unites the most public embarrassment. Dad,
(26:45):
you're drawing attention. We go to a game, I start cheering.
It's like, shut up, Dan, shut up. Like I'm cheering
on my team. What do you want me? Shut up
and watch the game? Dan? So you're the guy like
if you're going into the grocery store and there's someone
who wants you to sign a petition for something and
you want to, you're just pretending you're on your phone
doing an interview so that no one comes up to
you and Ben bothers you. Yeah, no, listen. I think
(27:06):
the Eagles this year. I like them as a dark
horse candidate to win the nfcast. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm going right. Look, I think Jalen Hurts is going
to have a big season. Okay, we're in. We're in.
Will yet And if it is something that I disagree with,
then maybe I'll take one of these sports business or
other topics we would talk about, and I'll be totally
on the opposite side of what they're trying to petition.
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Woike Dan. Happy fourth of July. What's going on? Man?
Thank you guys. They're gonna introduce me to someone who
(28:56):
is no stranger to crushing too many hot dogs? I
thought that's it was going to be, so I will
land on midnight tweet happily. How many could you do
in in eight minutes? How many hot dogs in eight
and if you really put I mean I'm a Chicagoan,
so it's me a hot dogs delicacy, right, Yeah, this
like dip the button water nonsense. Like if it's just
(29:18):
for like sport in eight minutes, I think I could
eat like six. If I'm being like dead on, I
mean I had them poor chillos yesterday. Its icious. Do
you go sport Peppers? Of course they're on. See I
don't do the sport peppers a week tummy Okay, Well
no it happens. That's why only six. By the way,
(29:40):
I don't know about six. Then if you got a
weak stomach, I don't know about that. I think you
under Hey and also, happy fourth and happy tenth anniversary
of the Lakers. Steve Nash Trade. How are you saying
you today? It is also, by the way, like the
seventh anniversary of me leaving a fourth July party to
go right about the Clippers using their mid exception on
(30:00):
Spencer Has. So wow, do you want to leave a
party to go right about Spencer Hall? You kept drinking
while you wrote that story, right, yes I did. And
as a like, this is like not a weird name drop. Oh,
this is a weird name drop. Like two years later,
on the fourth of July, I ended up at a
party hosted by Spencer Has. It was his house or
(30:25):
he was the maybe promotion guy he was renting. He
was renting a place in Manhattan Beach, Alifornia. Was walking
on the strand I think from a liquor store probably
are probably pro to R FRO and I saw Spencer
Haws and he invited us up and we had a
nice time. Well, hey, you're the guy that wrote that
article on me on fourth of July when I was
(30:45):
googling my name, Hey, come to my party, this is
gonna be great. A second paragraph really didn't make a
lot of sense. When did you write that? On the
fourth rough night? Hey, so you know a couple of
big stories to get to the first. We talked about
this a few minutes ago with Jordan Schultz. The Kyrie
Irving deal, Kyrie to the Lakers kind of feels like it,
in the words of Jordan Schultz, like it's done without
(31:07):
being done. And and you know, we've talked about this
that with so many avenues pointing towards this, it's it's
just a matter of when Kyrie winds up with the Lakers.
You agree with that? I think so? Um, Now, look right,
I'm hesitant to to you know, in this league, especially right,
like done without being done is a lot of wiggle room,
(31:29):
you know, Um, Kyrie and Kevin Durant and the Knicks
wasn't done without being done? You know, thanks for like,
oh you just took about at the knees, you glute,
but les less we forget right. So um, I think
I think that there are a lot of signs pointing
to this um strong mutual interest being one of them,
(31:52):
a lack of a trade market being another. However, I
think the mechanizations of it are still seemingly like kind
of I don't want to say they're far away, but
but it doesn't I haven't gotten the sense that it
has been like totally imminent, Like I don't think it's
going to happen today, right, Like, I think that there's
still some stuff to figure out. And honestly, if you're
(32:14):
the Lakers, on one hand, this is super obvious, right,
you do it, you do it, you do it, and
you do whatever you ever whatever you need to do
to do it. But on the other there are a
lot of reasons to be hesitant, right, Like obviously, like
take like even Kyrie's vaccine stances and stuff like that
out of the equation if you can't. Right, you've got
(32:35):
a player who does have an injury history, by the way,
and you're training him to a team that also has
a player with an injury history, and Eff and Davis
and another player Lebron James who will increasingly have an
injury history as it gets to older. So there's that
to consider, right, If you are going to trade multiple
future first round picks or even one, you should be
(32:55):
doing it for a player that you're constant you're gonna
have a long term commitment with and commit two and
with Kyrie Irving, and having that can have been flowback
in itself as dicey and then I think the third
factor in this I haven't really heard this talked about
a lot, is that, you know, this is the same
group that consummated the Anthony Davis trade, and you know,
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if you talk to people around the league, the thing
you hear a lot is like, yeah, they probably won
the trade, but they lost the negotiation, right, And what
I mean by that is probably an extra that they
were bidding against themselves in that process, and Anthony Davison
Clutches steered this the ship to the Lakers. Had the
Lakers maybe been a little more patient, maybe they hang out,
Maybe they hang on to Josh Hard, you know, maybe
they hang onto a future first round pick or a
(33:41):
pick swap or something like that, or maybe one of
the first asin u becomes a swap um. You know.
I think that that that sticker shot in the aftermath
of that trade. I think over time especially, it was
like they paid a lot and maybe didn't have to
pay quite as much. Now against the preco Beartrade, it
seems like, you know, okay, like they've got a pretty
(34:01):
good deal. But I think what I'm saying is you
have a group of people that that see similarities in
the situation. They see a trade market in which they're
probably the only bitter realistically, and so they don't want
to give on everything. Um. I think partly out of
principle and partly out of the fact that you know,
(34:22):
they know that they're long term risk associated with this. Yeah,
I guess when it gets down to it, Dan, I mean,
we're looking at you sync up Kyrie and Lebron. It's
one year of a reunion, and let's see how it goes, right,
because you're not you know, I just I don't think
it's a deal. I don't think it's that. I think
if you're a trading for Kyrie Kyrie, that the goal
(34:42):
is for kyr Irving and Anthony Davis to me the
future franchise. That's what I believe, right, I think goal wise,
But I just in the interim, right, you know, I
mean you only have him for one and whatever else. Yeah,
you only have him for one year under contract and
he could go do whatever he want. Is now, I
think the salace for the Lakers should be is that
(35:04):
by you know, I mean, I don't feel like I'm
breaking news by saying it's like he wants to be
on the Lakers. Sure, at least today well, but that's
the day, right, all right? From all reports, everything's cool.
Kyrie wants this to happen. Lebron wants this to happen.
Dree said whatever he needed to in public today. Again,
it's all my fault. He fell on the proverbial sword
(35:26):
for it and all ten million dollars difference in salaries.
I mean, what's the give in terms of players? We
keep seeing Curry's name, we see Joe Harris, Yeah, yeah,
I mean, look, and I think the Lakers would probably
like to add Taylan horn Tucker perhaps the deal too.
It doesn't really have a spotter, maybe Kendrick Nun. They've
got a lot of guards, especially if they've got guys
coming back in. I mean, look, is there a scenario
(35:49):
in which the Lakers end up trading both both both
first and Taylon Hornon Tucker and Kendrick Nunn and leave
the deal with Seth Curry, Joe Harris and Russell ust A.
Kyrie evering, I could see that happening. Um, you know,
I think there is obviously that the reason they would
like Seth Kuria how to Joe Harris, as you've got
a shorter contract and less injured concerns, right, Joe Harris
(36:10):
coming up the serious ankle surgery. The Lakers have been
hesitant about taking on long contracts for some reason. I
don't know why. I think you know there is I mean,
there is sort of an elephant in the room here too.
Now we don't really know the antity, or maybe we
do and we're not. We're not seeing it because maybe
they don't. Maybe maybe management doesn't think Lebron James and
(36:32):
Anthony Davis as a core is good enough anymore. That
could be. That's a possibility too, right as you see
the Western Conference shakeout the way it's shaking out, you know,
I mean Kevin Durant could be on the Phoenix suns um.
You know, like what is your belief level? And so
you want to you want to maintain some flexibility because
you have no draft flexibility. And the way you would
do that would be a short term contracts. As of
(36:53):
right now, the Lakers only have I think next year
is Anton Davis and I believe a player option from
Taylan hartin duck Well and obviously all these guys that
are dominating Summer League, they're coming to take over. Dan. Hey,
this is not a this is not a space for
Laker Summer league slander there. Two. And oh guys, it's
been a while since I covered a team above five
hundreds with the Lakers. So hey, if Cole Swider shoots
(37:15):
eighty percent from three, I think the Lakers win the title. Yeah,
it's hot. Yeah, I will say this. I did Texas
source with the Lakers about their summer league team a
little bit and said, hey, things are going pretty well,
and he said, well, to be honest, we've only played
against one NBA player. He was referring to Mosis Moody,
who played yesterday for the Warriors. And this is what
(37:36):
I responded, So obviously, you guys were probably doing things
that were much better than watching Laker summer LEAs beastly yesterday.
Moses Moody in that game like cut an elbow like
two minutes in and had to leave to go get stitches.
And I'm like, yeah, and you guys blinded that guy,
like amazing strategy. Well, I mean, you can't fall to
good strategy. I was watching the Elvis film, which I
really liked, except it was a little bloated like me,
(37:59):
you know, oh it seems and maybe, okay, I mean
this is maybe a little on the nose. It seems
like a little sparkly for me, like maybe like an
like an elvit like an Elvis robe like and and
look maybe that's appropriate given the subject matter. I just
you know, I don't know. It seems like it's uh,
(38:20):
it seems like a movie. Is It's not a boss
Lerman movie? Is it? It is? It is a boss
Lerman movie. I would you say it looks very much
like a bust also very sparkly like a robe or
may not have from my childhood boy Dan woe with
us NBA inside a reporter for the La Times. All right,
now we have to get to the GBUS cryptic midnight tweet.
(38:42):
All right, it's starting to gain a lot of attention.
Right around midnight, she put out this tweet, I miss KB,
referring to Kobe Bryant, maybe Kwame Brown. I'm assuming Kobe Bryant.
Kobe Bryant, he would understand and explain everything that I'm
not allowed to. Honestly, he was the greatest lake or ever.
He understood team over self, meaning your rewards would come
(39:05):
if you valued team goals over your own, then everything
would fall into place. All can reply and it's you know,
people are applying, it's gaining a lot of attention. This
is a very cryptic tweet. Is it about lebron and
Clutch Sports? Is it about Kyrie Irving? Is it about
the state of the NBA? What? What? What's your takeaway
from what you see from this tweet from Genie Buss.
(39:25):
I think I did a little I did a little
digging on this, guys. I think it's about Kobe Bryant. Okay,
And the reason why is you can you can scroll
over the guy, don't. I don't mean to tell all
my my tricks here. You can scroll over and you
can see the tweets that Genny Buss is liked in
the last twenty four hours, and they're all about Kobe Bryant,
(39:48):
and they're all about you know, Kobe memories or Kobe's
the goat, or you know more players he'd understand, like
Kobe Bryan blah blah blah blah blah. Right Like, so,
I do think it is about Kobe. However, as an
owner in the NBA, right now you are seeing you,
I would imagine you know this this tremendous shift in power.
I mean, you know, you know it's been a player's driven,
(40:10):
a player driven league for a while. Now you're seeing
that power being kind of actualized. And I don't want
to say player empowerment. It's like that that seems like
a cliche. But I think what you're seeing though, is
I mean, you do have a guy like Kevin Durandon
goes to front office management says like I want out
and he has for you know, he's got multiple years
left on a contract. Um, you have a player and
(40:32):
carrier ring involving the stuff who you know that sort
of held his franchise hostage in a lot of ways
from the last deal. Plus, so you know, I think
I think what got her thinking about Kobe Bryant's kind
of maybe maybe the question here. I do think the
tweet itself is about Kobe Brant. I don't think. I
(40:52):
don't think Genie has won a subtweet now, this is
a lebroad tweet. I think, Well, the thing is, Dan,
I look at this and I go, Okay, it could
be about all of these things. It could be about Kobe,
and I'm missing him because things would be different. And
I'm fighting with Clutch Sports and we you know, we
made a bad trade in the NBA and certain rules
(41:14):
are frustrating. I get all of this. But what I
take away from this, and this is what I want,
is that in all the conversations we have about the Lakers,
it's about Lebron and Clutch Sports running the team. What
about Rob Polinka's job? What the and never is Genie
Buss mentioned? And the word allowed to here is the
weird part? Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. Well, but is
(41:37):
that just the being She's allowed to do whatever she wants.
She's the governor of the team, right, And that's what
and that's my point is that I get that she's everybody.
Every owner has their different style and and there's different
ways people do things, and she's not quite the attention
seeker that Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban are. But this
is the point where I go, you know what, the
(42:00):
Lakers are a mess. This is where I need Genie
Bus to stand up and say, Okay, I'm the owner,
I'm the one calling the shots, and this is how
we're going to get out of This is how we're
gonna get out of Russell Westbrook. This is how we're
going to get out of the image of the team
being a you know, being where it is right now.
This is where I need Geennie Bus to go. Okay,
you know what, none of this clutch sports stuff. I'm
the owner and this is how we're going to do it.
I just don't think that's her And um, I think,
(42:23):
you know, and this is probably a really good trait
as a person and maybe not always a great trade
as an owner. And I think history shouldn't that gene
Bust wants to think a lot of people happy, you know,
as many people as possible, right like that that is
sort of who she is. She is a very friendly
person who, um, I think wants to wants to do
(42:45):
the right thing, but wants to do the right thing
by as many people as possible, and sometimes that gets
in the way of difficult to see, you know, Um,
I believe it. But still at some point you're the owner.
This is is you have to be the one to
do this. I get mean, I agree that, I agree
that it's the obvious. I just think that we're talking
about you know, the person, right, And this is why
(43:06):
there's been, um, you know, a vacuum of power, right,
and why people have been able to to to kind
of come in and and have their way, you know,
have their their sort of will, their sort of wills
met as they've as they've kind of navigated um through
like lak Er done right. Like there's there's a lot
(43:28):
of actors that have been able to to kind of
assemble power and keep power quickly or you know, seemingly
lose power but actually not. It's I mean, there's tremendous
sort of palace intrigue with this organization. And I think,
you know, part of the reason why is because you
have a very nice person at the top of it.
And nice doesn't always nice doesn't always pay the bills, right,
(43:50):
Like it just kind of like you're right in this situation.
It would be great if you had like a clear direction,
if you had you know, a Stan Cronkey level of
you know, you empower your channel manager to say aff
the picks and you go, you know what I mean,
and like we're just we're going to do whatever it takes.
But you know, you there. I'm sure there are messages
coming from a lot of different people, and if it's
(44:10):
a I think at times it's really good and at
times as negative. But I think Genie has very open
ears of these things. Yeah, I think part of it
comes back to and Jason and I were talking about
it earlier, Dan, is you know they're they're used to,
at least on the surface, that direct connection that you'd
established with a player. And I wondered to some degree
if there isn't a bit of that lamentation here with
(44:34):
what Kobe Bryant was straight shooter right, at least from
everything we've ever heard. Whereas now you've got so many
other outside forces, whether in the building or literally outside
the building, that you don't you don't get to establish
quite the same same space here that Magic is going
to be really mad based on you know, Kobe now
(44:56):
being the best laker. Well Magic, I think Magic would
sign off on that opinion generally he's thinking. But I mean,
I think he's an interesting case study of this, right is,
Like you know, you have Magic Johnson who told us
the reporters that he was quitting the job before he
had told Jeanie, right, and like it puts like it
was a very chaotic moment and stuff like that. But like,
I mean, Magic and Genie are incredibly close still, you know, um,
(45:19):
like we know that that Magic was consulted or spoken
to it at points during time um, you know, post
Frank Vogel hiring, he spoken to when they hired Frank Glogel.
You know, I mean, like, I think that that sort
of speaks to the issue is you have an incredibly
loyal person and you know, and I think, look and
(45:39):
Kobe Bryant, um ultimately, right, was incredibly loyal to the
Lakers franchise to fight some trade demands here and there
and things like that, and the Lakers gave him a
lot of reasons to be loyal. But but I think
I think it's a combination of all these things at
this time, right, Like, I think that's a call she
would make, you know, I actually I know that as
a call she would make. Right now, she tries and
tries to weigh what to do, or as the organization
(46:01):
tries to weigh what it does. I just think that
to your point, right like, she is allowed to understand
and make any decisions you want. She runs the lake
and UM, at times I think the organization will benefit
if um that was that power was more acted upon.
Now now, now before we let you go, now, you
gotta you gotta, you know, gotta put this in perspective
(46:22):
for us who was closer Genie Bust and Magic Johnson
or you and Spencer Halls. I think it's Genie and Magic. However,
I don't know that they've ever toasted over fireworks in
Manhattan Beach that night, So it is a good question.
Sometimes guys, it's about quality time, about quantity and no,
(46:43):
that's true. Let's say that's our words of wisdom right there,
Dan Wow, he's on Twitter at Dan Woike Sports. That
is at Dan Woike Sports, La Times, NBA insider and
reporter Dan Happy, fourth of July and hopefully you're not
writing a column later on today at the Lakers using
(47:04):
the mid level you put, well, you just willed it
into existence, so that just yeah, you know, and it's
gonna be jello ball. So congratulations, that's what it's gonna be. Like,
take it easy body. I'm happy for uh Dan Wicky,
great stuff from him there. You know. Look, my whole point, Mike,
with with the Lakers is that is there's so many
(47:26):
reports of different factions of the team that are running
things where they're gonna go. And you know, but sometimes
when you're the owner, even if it's not your thing,
you gotta do it. There's certain things in life that
it's not your personality like I don't want I don't
like confrontation or I would rather not do this. But
once in a while, it's, uh, this is a job,
you know, that's a Don Martin or boss what always
ad that's the job, a man, that's the job. I mean,
(47:48):
once a while, this is the job. And this is
the job for Genie Bus to say, hey, okay, all
this craziness and this the dumpster fire reputation the organization
is going through. This has to stop, like right now,
what's the old Lion about power and responsibility? And spider Man,
Spider Man, spider Man Twitter at how about a fresca
(48:11):
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You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show
here on Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith alongside my bass
friend Mike Harmon. Hey buddy, Happy fourth of July. Mike Harmon,
are you are you? Are you lighting sparklers like that
guy on the internet at the wedding that that almost
(00:21):
burned out an entire wedding. It's it's a happy, happy day. No,
I'm not overserved just yet. A couple of cups of
coffee in, but you know, rallying for what is a
big day of sporting events, gluttony and tweet storms that
we have to decipher. It's a beautiful morning. Thank you
Genie Bus for starting our day off right. Uh yeah,
(00:41):
we got a big story Genie Buss cryptically tweeting at
midnight about Kobe Bryant and the state of the Lakers.
Will have that coming up later on this hour. Big
story about k D in a couple of minutes. But
I mean, really, when you talk about sports, you know
analytics and what we need to know here on the
fourth of July. My Carmen coming up later on today
(01:02):
will be the fourth of July. Hot Dog eating contest
and Joey Chestnut will defend his title on crutches. Yeah,
I know over under set at seventy four and a
half now does does this injury because he you know,
he has a leg injury, it's a foot injury. His
foot is in a cast. Does this affect how many
hot dogs he eats? And more importantly, what's the fantasy
(01:22):
fallout of this injury to Joey Chestnut? Well, one of
the big questions is what is normal training regiment? Is?
I can't claim that I know it terribly well, but
the idea is maybe maybe he hasn't gotten his treadmill
work in. Maybe some of the stuff he does in
a normal routine heading up to the event is just
thrown askew. Right, All it takes is a little bit
(01:44):
to take you off your game. I'm trying to think
of the times, because you know, I like to eat.
I'm trying to think of the times, not that I've
been sick, because being sick is one thing when you
have no appetite. I'm trying to think like the times
that I've been hurt, Like if I've I've sprained something
where if it's affected my appetite and I just haven't
felt like eating, and I can't remember I don't remember
that ever happening to me that you know, Hey, I
(02:06):
did this to my wrist or you know, my knee
is a little stiff, and I really can't eat. So
I don't know. I think eating you might be impervious
to it. If you if you're dinged up somehow, you're
still gonna be able to eat. Yeah, but maybe you've
been gluttonizing in a bad way, right, self medicating with food,
whereas normally it's your profession, that's an easy thing to do.
(02:28):
I mean, I've been doing that for you know, a
long long time. But legitimately, maybe you know, you decided
you're gonna have that extra big mac with extra sauce
and extra cheese, right because it's too two for a deal.
I don't know what the cost is everywhere else, but
I mean two for six here in California, that's about
as good a deal as you're finding in terms of
your your gluttony. And maybe you eat that second one
(02:50):
instead of passing it on to a friend or family member.
And maybe he's succumbed to that a little bit. Maybe
he's taking something for the pain and it throws him off.
I don't know, there's a lot of variable that if
YA was setting the odds and trying to figure it
out as a degenerate gambler and wagering money on chestnut today,
I'd want to know the answer to those questions. That's tough.
(03:10):
I mean it really really and we need, you know,
we need to look like some insider kind of access
on this, Like I'm looking for competitive eaters online who
are saying things like, oh, this injury is gonna you know,
maybe he'll lead about five less hot dogs or all.
That's gonna completely throw things off, and maybe standing is
gonna be difficult for him. I need that kind of analysis. Well,
we do know the dynastic run that he's on. I mean, look,
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we got all gushy and excitable about the Warriors, and
when I screw that, this guy now, this guy, I mean,
Hosi missed one of the last fifteen years. I mean,
you're talking about a decade and a half of dominance. Yeah,
I forgot about the Warriors and Steve Kerr. This is yeah,
this is this even this is much bigger than that. Absolutely.
(03:54):
Uh So more on the hot dog eating content again,
the fantasy fall out of this is is you know,
tacularly vivid. So let's you know, hopefully we'll get some
breakdown of that as well. But yes, Kevin Durant and
the Warriors are making headlines right now. Mark Spears ESPN
insider tweeted out late yesterday that the Warriors have interest
(04:17):
in trading for Kevin Durant. Just think about this just now.
Let's just think about this for a sec because this
is fun. Kevin Durant who wanted to get away from
the Warriors because he wasn't getting enough credit for winning
a championship, because that's what Ken this is going to
focus on. This gets into what's what really, Katie is
all about Kevin Durant, who wasn't getting enough craw was
(04:38):
in the best basketball position of his career, winning titles,
winning NBA finals, MVPs, Nope, nope, not enough for him.
I gotta go someplace where I can be the guy
where no one can criticize me for winning a title
because it's gonna have to be on my back, right.
No one can say to me, well you had staff,
or well you had to because Kevin Durant, it's to
(05:00):
craziness on social media way too much, because no matter
what you do, you're going to get the anti storyline.
Either Kevin Durant it was all you and boy Steph
Curry is not nearly as good as we thought he was,
or now it's oh, hey, Steph Curry is as good
as we thought he was. They won without Kevin Durant. Now,
Kevin Durant, it's your fault. He's not going back to
(05:21):
Golden State, all right, But people are forgetting in a
situation like this, is that NBA stars, superstars have all
the power, and if they try to trade him to
Golden State, Kevin Durant is gonna say I don't want
to go. And what's the fall out gonna be If
you try to put the trade through. It'll get messy
and they'll say I'm not going. Because NBA players are
(05:42):
using not playing as leverage. We see that now all
the time. Coming back from injury. Hey, so and so
was cleared to play, Jamal Murray was cleared to play
the end of the season. Michael Malone was saying, more ready,
you want to come back, last game of the season,
get some time on NOLPE. Not gonna play. Ben Simmons
didn't play all you go back to Kauai Kawhi letter
not but going back to his time in San Antonio. Yeah,
(06:03):
it is a strategy that players are okay with. Look,
they still love playing basketball one, but they're okay with
not playing as a strategy if it helps them. And
if Kevin Durant says, well, I'll miss twenty games here
and there, I'll miss twenty games because they'll trade me
at some point, Yeah, I'm okay with that. So that's
the whole thing is that, Yeah, you can trade him
and for all the Hey, they could trade him wherever
(06:25):
they want to, and they'll send him to Sacramento, they
can send him to Detroit, they can send it. He's
just not gonna go And there's no way he's gonna
go back to Golden State. That just not gonna happen.
I mean for us, it would be great, right because
he could be on Draymond's podcast, they could get in
fistfights and actually we get video of it. Will be
all be so awesome for us. It would be great
for Kevin Durant, not so much. If they say, hey,
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Golden State, he's gonna say, yeah, not going do whatever
you want to do, and I'll just wait until you
get me to a place where I can play basketball. Yeah,
I mean just following the different reports that come out
there right from the Hey, this thing is really heated
up to sign No. Hey, it's all preliminary. And this
is Hayinges backing up a little bit, right, former former
guest of ours and for years here on the network
(07:09):
at Fox Sports Radio, and certainly everybody's choosing their words carefully,
particularly when it comes to Kevin Durant. I think like
one of the things of keeping access to a lot
of these guys is changing how reporting's done a little
a little differently. You know, once upon a time it
was the beat writers. Now it's even the inside. It's like,
(07:30):
all right, I want to get this one completely wrong,
so let's just keep throwing stuff up against the wall.
And all it takes is one guy to say, you
know what this or a woman or whoever's working in
the front office saying hey, this could work, and all
of a sudden, the next rumor pops up. Now, for
Kevin Durant, it's all the introspection. What do you believe?
He truly is, Like I've been telling you for weeks,
(07:52):
I think it's all. All of this is just a
big wwe work now and again between all the Twitter
ef that guys have and they little bits that they
put out there. Like Durant went back and forth with
a reporter at the end of the week and it
coming into the weekend is like, all right, what is
any of this stuff that you tweeted me? And he goes, well,
(08:13):
what do you mean? And he he goes, how about
you answer one of these three questions and he goes, no,
keep dreaming, my guy. That kind of thing. It's like,
you know, stop using your medium, minions and whoever else
to get your your message out. Because at this point,
Kevin Durant's starting to look like Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.
They haven't said anything until they do. All right, it's
all just all right, let's see what the messages and
(08:35):
let's manipulate things and let's have people talk about me
and my greatness for a while. So I think that's
that's a giant chunk. But going back to Golden State,
I mean, I don't know where he is. Maybe he's
come to some sort of inner piece. I mean, I
don't buy that for a second. I got like Aaron Donald,
who was at peace about retirement, that's right until the
(08:58):
contract showed up and I was like, Okay, I'm feeling
I feel it better about going out and wrecking people
on the football field. Again with KD, going back to
Golden State would be the antithesis of everything he's been
reported to be, because again, at no point has he
ever said that, right, He responded after the Warriors won
the title by you know, people starting to troll, I'm going, look,
(09:19):
I've been dead since the day I signed there, right,
this doesn't do anything the legacy and whatever else you
guys all buried me. So does that mean he just
kind of shrugs and it rolls off or does it
eat away at him? And trying to figure that out?
Hey have fun, just figure out which burner account it's
coming from Twitter at how about a fresca? Mike gets swollen? Dumb?
(09:41):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon in for Dan Patrick today, Happy
fourth of July. Now, so, if it's not going to
be Golden Sticks, there's just no way. I mean, look
like I said, it would be fantastic. But but Jason, likewise,
you know the fact that the report comes out saying,
well he wants to go to Miami and Phoenix or Phoenix.
How does that help with the you know, if he's
really that affected by you know, I'm joining a great
(10:04):
team psychology that allegedly there even though they haven't gotten
over and they were still number one seeds. Well that's
the thing, is his view of himself and what he need.
This is why Golden State doesn't work, because if he
goes to Golden State and they win, it's gonna be
They were great with him, they were great without him,
because that's kind of what it is now. They were
great with him when they needed them. But the NBA
hasn't really improved the last couple of years. It's kind
(10:27):
of been in stasis, which is why the Warriors are
able to win two years past their peak. I mean,
you're talking about them coming back this year when Clay
hadn't played in two years. It hadn't really made any
big additions to the team except for younger players are ascending,
which happens throughout the league, and they were able to
win the title. Oh, those role players came up huge,
(10:47):
it did. They did. Looney's probably the best bargain in
in all a free agency in the point two billion
dollars that's been spent. Uppy second. But usually when when
when players, you know, in every offseason, players wove around,
it tilts the balance of power in the NBA. And
for the Warriors to come back and and win behind
the same players they won three years ago on, that
(11:08):
usually doesn't happen that much. So it's gonna be for
KDS who, well, he won with him, now he won
without him. Okay, it happened, but he needs to go
somewhere where they're ready to win, obviously, but it's got
to be a situation in which if that team wins,
you say, Kevin Durant led them here, and a team
like Phoenix who has been close a couple of times
but doesn't have enough, needs Kevin Durant to come in
(11:32):
and he would say, see, they won because of me.
The Miami Heat, who have been close a couple of
times but haven't gotten over the top, they won because
of me. So he's going to be someone to take
a team that hasn't won and won. But look, it's
all about Kevin Durant and how he feels about his image.
So that's where that's why, Hey, Miami and Phoenix are
at the top. Why because they're both really good teams
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in each conference and they both are very close to winning.
And I can be that guy. I can be the
guy to come in and take them over the top,
and then I will get the credit for being the
winner that I was because it didn't work in Brooklyn
where we had nothing and I show up and Okay,
it's my team. And I came in with Kyrie and
then we had Harden and we moved on and we still,
(12:14):
oh wow, this was too much of a rebuilding thing
for me because we had to build around me with
a couple of players and it didn't work out. I
need to go to a team where the situation is
perfect and I can go in and be the leader.
But this is a bigger point about Durant Mike, is
that we just spent time talking about him winning at
Golden State and everything was there. Do you really think
(12:35):
wherever he goes he's going to be happy because he
has had all kinds of different situations that he's been
in the NBA and all have cowtow to him, and
still he can't find happiness. Right. He was there in
Oklahoma City for a long time and the power he
exerted while he was there. Remember the mister unreliable that
(12:55):
was written about him, complete opposite of mister unlimited, right,
not yet not mister unlimited Russell Wilson, mister unreliable Kevin Durant.
What happened when that went out in the Oklahoma City papers?
The newspaper had to apologize for the headline. I think
they made that guy and just started making copies in
the back. I don't think he got to write anymore. Yeah,
he was a cop. He was Rob Schneider. He was
(13:17):
a copy guy waiting and making copies. So he had
a great situation there, but he wanted to get away
from Russell Westbrook. Okay, that wasn't happy enough for him.
So what does he do? He goes to the Golden
State Warriors. Hey, Golden State, which is the destination for
anybody in the NBA. Everybody loves playing for Steve Kerr.
You know, Steph Curry is someone who will take his
ego and push it aside a bit, which he did
(13:38):
for Kevin Durant to come in and he won championships there,
probably would have won a third one if he didn't
get hurt and blow out as Achilles No, couldn't get
along with Draymond, wanted to go prove himself. Didn't like
that people said, oh, he just piggybacked on the Warriors.
So now he goes to Brooklyn where it's his show. Dude,
it's you, it's Kyrie. Go do your thing. And they
can't even get to a conference final and it blows
(13:59):
up some much. They have to trade James Harden, Ben
Simmons never sees the floor. Kyrie is unhappy, doesn't even
make it to the games half the time. Kevin Durant
has no power in telling, hey, Kyrie, we're trying to
win a championship here, so tell me where he goes next.
He's going to be happy because he's had all different
kinds of situations where Okay, I'm the king in Oklahoma City, Nope,
not happy here. Okay, hey, I'm going and I'm winning.
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I'm winning championships in my legacy. I'm doing legacy stuff
in Golden State. Nope, not happy there. No, I'm in Brooklyn.
I'm in the number one media market in the country
and we're building the team around me and I'm here. Nope,
not happy here. How's he going to be happy someplace?
Elsie goes. He has had different situations where hey, we're
giving this to you, and he hasn't been happy through
wherever he goes. Do we really think that destination is
(14:43):
going to be the place where he's gonna say, this
is where I should have played basketball along, this is
where I should have got this is where I should be.
I don't see it now. It all comes back to
the song sung by the great Clay Calloway for those
of you that aren't as well in touch with your
children's films as I am. That's Bonos singing, Guys, I
haven't found where I'm looking for. All the money, fame
riches in the world, your soul may still want something,
(15:06):
whether it's credit, whether it's just a little bit of
love and a hug and a pat on the back.
And I think Kevin Durant continues to search for that
and that he may never find it. I hope he does,
but I'm with you, I don't think it's there. All
those situations, all those different accolades and prestige and titles
and millions and millions of dollars made on the court
(15:28):
and off the court through his connections made in the
Silicon Valley doesn't matter, still hasn't found what he's looking for.
Did you really go sing too? I did not sing?
You went? You went sing too? That was still heaven.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
(15:50):
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAP. Joining
us now in the hotline for more on this odyssey,
NFL Inside or one oh five seven The Game and
Baltimore Jason Locke and for it Jay Happy fourth man.
How's it going? I am, I am doing well. I'm
actually at the beach and I was in the ocean,
which is why I didn't hear my phone one of
my children who never wants to get the ocean. So
(16:14):
I apologize. I was a little late. But yeah, happy
for everybody. Welcome in. No, it's all good. I see.
Were you in the ocean? Like opening baseball cards? Like?
Were you doing that? I don't think that would be
good for the environment or the or the value of
the cards. Well, I don't know. They make it with
a lot of plastic and metal anymore. You might be okay, yeah,
I don't Yeah, So no, none of that, none of that.
(16:36):
Here a time in place for every Ye all right,
so hey, so we were talking about the latest on
to Shaun Watson and and where we could wind up
seeing a decision and is it Is it anything less
than a year when it comes down to it, like, well,
what are you hearing? How this is going to end up?
I don't I don't think so. Um, I don't think
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he plays football this year. And as we said in
the past during some of our chats on Monday evening,
I'm less than convinced he ever plays for the Cleveland Browns.
I need to see it to believe it. There are
so many moving pieces here, so many variables, so much
still unknown, and so much that still continues to come out.
And when you have the number of these, I guess
(17:18):
you call them clandestine interactions. And so many are known
within a such a short period of time, I don't
know how anyone could feel a sense of closure. But
and there's obviously four cases outstanding in the civil you know,
the civil proceedings, the amount of anecdotal evidence against him,
(17:42):
the amount of testimony that would accuse him of outright
crimes in many instances, and knowing that the league, yes,
this is a different process than in the past, but
the personal conduct policy grants a wide swath of interpretation
whomever m Goodell, Robinson or whoever is sitting um sort
(18:06):
of a top of the disciplinary pyramid. Yeah. I think
the Cleveland Browns um took a considerable risk here and
and I don't expect them to be rewarded for it
for a long time. So the potential there, and reading
into the start of what's said there, Jason is potentially
(18:26):
avoiding of that contract altogether. Depending on how this flows. Well,
I don't know if they're going to be able to
get away with that well, but I mean pay out
and be done well? Yeah? Or I mean again, is
this a situation where he suspended indefinitely and between now
and the start of the twenty twenty three NFL season?
You know what? I mean? What more? What more comes out?
(18:48):
What other allegations are there? Are there other civil proceedings
that have since been filed? Um? I mean what does
this bring out in him? You know? I mean the
bottom line is, I don't think even his agency has
done any sort of true behavioral study of what's going
on here. Why were there all these interactions? What was
(19:11):
this really about? What did this sem from what would
lead us to believe this is behind it? Was he
in some way trying to get caught Like I don't
know this, but the Cleveland Browns, I know absolutely positively
or not privy to any of that sort of I
don't know that he's ever sat down and for any
sort of true psychological study as to what's going on here,
(19:33):
and how do we know it's going it's over, or
how do we know it doesn't manifest itself in some
other sort of behavioral pattern that also runs a foul
of the personal conduct of policy. I mean, I just
think I know I'm not smart enough to say I've
got a full handle on this, Like I get why
he did it, exactly what he was doing, what he
hoped to accomplish, what it was about, and why it's
(19:56):
necessarily behind him, you know. So I I'm just sort
of playing the under on all of this. And if
people want to want to hazard guesses is the way
he's going to play or even what that's going to
look like this is going to bring out in him
on a football field. Whenever that happens, I just don't know,
And I'm sort of of the mindset that I'll start
(20:18):
sort of worried about that when I see him where,
you know, in a Cleveland Browns jersey, playing in an
NFL regular season game for the first time, and I
don't think that's going to happen for quite some time,
if it happens at all. Jason Lockett for with us
here Fox Sports Radio. Jason Spent Mike Harmon in for
Dan Patrick. All right, now, the next thing, which is
which is everybody's favorite offseason conversation, because I feel like
(20:39):
we're contracted to have this is either about Baker Mayfield
or Jimmy Garoppolo. Look, Mayfield says, both sides have moved on.
Garoppolo is starting a throwing program. Are we going to
get resolutions for their playing situations anytime soon? I don't
necessarily think so. And really nothing's changed with either of
these since the combine, which it was around the combine
(21:03):
when it became clear to anybody paying attention that's that
the Sorry Mayfield relationship with the Browns was reaching a
point in no return. And that's also when we found
out that Garoppolo had elected for you know, surgery on
a selling shoulder, and the market's been limited all along.
I think you're looking at you know, the Panthers, and
(21:25):
you're looking at the Seahawks, and I don't see the
holding Niners and Seahawks making the trade for a twenty
five million dollars starting quarterback. And I also think the
Seahawks would prefer Baker Mayfield at a far lower price
point because the Browns are going to have to eat
more than half that contract off the million one. It's
all set and done to subsidize moving Baker Mayfield because
(21:48):
everybody knows the predicament they're in. He's making nineteen million bucks.
He can't go back there. They're already got a payroll
approaching three hundred million dollars on a two hundred and
eight million dollar cap, so nobody's in it to help.
Jimmy has them out. He went head over fees for
this to Shawn Watson thing, so he's spending all that
money go go eat. You know, you want to pay
(22:10):
him nineteen to do nothing, or you want to pay
him twelve to get something back in return and move
him off your books and save seven. You know, that's
where it is. It's where it's always been, and I
think Seattle will ultimately win that that transaction at their
place point. You know, on Garoppolo, if you can't if
you can't throw, I mean, nobody's always training for you.
(22:30):
You know, you couldn't pass a physical right now, you
couldn't go out and practice tomorrow. He's not gonna be
practiced fully at the end of this month when training
cans open. So I do think Carolina is desperate enough
to take a flyer on him at some point, but
the timing has certainly been thrown askew by the nature
of that surgery. Jason Smith, Mike Harment with you here
(22:52):
the Dan Patrick Show, Jason, Locke and Ford joining us
one oh five seven the Fan in Baltimore. Also at
Jason Lockin for where you find him on Twitter, longtime
NFL insider. All right, then we get back into the league.
Lees out your way there, Jason with Daniel Snyder and
all the character referenced letters that are coming out. Did
(23:13):
you get asked to write one yet? I mean, because
all we've gotten from them at this point is a
statement from going up against the Washington Post. Can anybody
be smirching the name? And then just letter after letters saying, hey,
the last two years have been great? What does it mean?
In the grand scheme, nothing but it's good read. Yeah,
(23:33):
this is a guy who's you know, had been a
PR nightmare, had nothing but bad press for good reason,
you know, since he thought the team and it's all
based on his words and his options, and you know
they were There was the proceedings on Capitol Hill, and
then they released some of the documents and I kept
unfortunately a lot of them were redacted because I really
(23:53):
wanted to see the file they kept on me, right
because I covered them for five years for the Washington Post,
and I know the kind of bizarre, razy kakamani non
like untrue letters that their lawyers would send to the
Washington Post all the time about me just making things up,
completely fabricating events and fights and stolen playbooks. You wouldn't
(24:15):
believe it if you saw it. So I know, you
know what they're capable of. I know how he and
his lawyers act, and it's gotten them nowhere to this point,
and it is not going to get them them anywhere.
And at some point he's going to have to testify
on Capitol Hill and it'll be a complete utter disaster
because he can't have quit himself in a conversation normally
(24:35):
with people he doesn't know that well, or in many cases,
even with people he does know pretty well, he can
still be absurdly awkward. So that the specter of him
going before politicians you know who are who are investigating
him for significant misdeeds and of quitting himself, well, I
think is a damn near impossibility. He's on Twitter at
(24:58):
Jason Locke and four that is at Jason locking for Also,
if you're at the beach, you can ask him any
baseball card question you want. He will answer for you,
unless he is in the ocean. You're going back in
the water. Now you're going back in the water. I
was about to get back in. Can you hear the
waves crash? That's good? I did that. We are glow
at NPR level ambience sound. That's what I'm all about.
(25:21):
It's great. Makes me wish I was there with you.
But but yeah, yeah, well dude, have fun. Man, we'll
talk to you next week. Got me fourth, Jason say,
there goes Jason lock and forth I come out of
the water. I'm gonna tell you about Daniel Snyder. We're
gonna talk to and then I'm going back in the
water talking about investing in some Baltimore Orioles Prospects and
(25:42):
then move on. Can you imagine what that must have
been like if you were, like, you know, near him
on the beach. You're going, this guy is really fired up.
He's talking about the NFL on his phone to somebody.
Have you never done that he stepped out of a restaurant,
out into the street or a bar, or been publicly
where you had to suddenly take an interview quest. I've
done that. My kids hate me, absolutely hate me, because
(26:03):
all of a sudden, you got people standing around. And
it's not that you get a huge crowd, but you
start having people just stopping, phones come out. It's like,
what's going on here? And my kids can't get away
fasted on it. It's funny every one alone time, I
just pretend I'm taking an interview call and just start yelling,
oh you know, oh wow, now that now that that's
(26:24):
a good strategy. I like that. I like that strategy
because it's a public embarrassment. That's the one thing. My
kids have a lot of, you know, different differences in
their personalities and their likes. Right in terms of TV shows, movies, whatever,
there's a lot of common ground. But when it comes
to the thing that unites the most public embarrassment. Dad,
(26:45):
you're drawing attention. We go to a game, I start cheering.
It's like, shut up, Dan, shut up. Like I'm cheering
on my team. What do you want me? Shut up
and watch the game? Dan? So you're the guy like
if you're going into the grocery store and there's someone
who wants you to sign a petition for something and
you want to, you're just pretending you're on your phone
doing an interview so that no one comes up to
you and Ben bothers you. Yeah, no, listen. I think
(27:06):
the Eagles this year. I like them as a dark
horse candidate to win the nfcast. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm going right. Look, I think Jalen Hurts is going
to have a big season. Okay, we're in. We're in.
Will yet And if it is something that I disagree with,
then maybe I'll take one of these sports business or
other topics we would talk about, and I'll be totally
on the opposite side of what they're trying to petition.
(27:28):
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America's team in Major League Baseball? Sir, Sir, sign the
petition sign Pittman Twitter at Howmutifresca, Mike gets Swollen Dome,
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Woike Dan. Happy fourth of July. What's going on? Man?
Thank you guys. They're gonna introduce me to someone who
(28:56):
is no stranger to crushing too many hot dogs? I
thought that's it was going to be, so I will
land on midnight tweet happily. How many could you do
in in eight minutes? How many hot dogs in eight
and if you really put I mean I'm a Chicagoan,
so it's me a hot dogs delicacy, right, Yeah, this
like dip the button water nonsense. Like if it's just
(29:18):
for like sport in eight minutes, I think I could
eat like six. If I'm being like dead on, I
mean I had them poor chillos yesterday. Its icious. Do
you go sport Peppers? Of course they're on. See I
don't do the sport peppers a week tummy Okay, Well
no it happens. That's why only six. By the way,
(29:40):
I don't know about six. Then if you got a
weak stomach, I don't know about that. I think you
under Hey and also, happy fourth and happy tenth anniversary
of the Lakers. Steve Nash Trade. How are you saying
you today? It is also, by the way, like the
seventh anniversary of me leaving a fourth July party to
go right about the Clippers using their mid exception on
(30:00):
Spencer Has. So wow, do you want to leave a
party to go right about Spencer Hall? You kept drinking
while you wrote that story, right, yes I did. And
as a like, this is like not a weird name drop. Oh,
this is a weird name drop. Like two years later,
on the fourth of July, I ended up at a
party hosted by Spencer Has. It was his house or
(30:25):
he was the maybe promotion guy he was renting. He
was renting a place in Manhattan Beach, Alifornia. Was walking
on the strand I think from a liquor store probably
are probably pro to R FRO and I saw Spencer
Haws and he invited us up and we had a
nice time. Well, hey, you're the guy that wrote that
article on me on fourth of July when I was
(30:45):
googling my name, Hey, come to my party, this is
gonna be great. A second paragraph really didn't make a
lot of sense. When did you write that? On the
fourth rough night? Hey, so you know a couple of
big stories to get to the first. We talked about
this a few minutes ago with Jordan Schultz. The Kyrie
Irving deal, Kyrie to the Lakers kind of feels like it,
in the words of Jordan Schultz, like it's done without
(31:07):
being done. And and you know, we've talked about this
that with so many avenues pointing towards this, it's it's
just a matter of when Kyrie winds up with the Lakers.
You agree with that? I think so? Um, Now, look right,
I'm hesitant to to you know, in this league, especially right,
like done without being done is a lot of wiggle room,
(31:29):
you know, Um, Kyrie and Kevin Durant and the Knicks
wasn't done without being done? You know, thanks for like,
oh you just took about at the knees, you glute,
but les less we forget right. So um, I think
I think that there are a lot of signs pointing
to this um strong mutual interest being one of them,
(31:52):
a lack of a trade market being another. However, I
think the mechanizations of it are still seemingly like kind
of I don't want to say they're far away, but
but it doesn't I haven't gotten the sense that it
has been like totally imminent, Like I don't think it's
going to happen today, right, Like, I think that there's
still some stuff to figure out. And honestly, if you're
(32:14):
the Lakers, on one hand, this is super obvious, right,
you do it, you do it, you do it, and
you do whatever you ever whatever you need to do
to do it. But on the other there are a
lot of reasons to be hesitant, right, Like obviously, like
take like even Kyrie's vaccine stances and stuff like that
out of the equation if you can't. Right, you've got
(32:35):
a player who does have an injury history, by the way,
and you're training him to a team that also has
a player with an injury history, and Eff and Davis
and another player Lebron James who will increasingly have an
injury history as it gets to older. So there's that
to consider, right, If you are going to trade multiple
future first round picks or even one, you should be
(32:55):
doing it for a player that you're constant you're gonna
have a long term commitment with and commit two and
with Kyrie Irving, and having that can have been flowback
in itself as dicey and then I think the third
factor in this I haven't really heard this talked about
a lot, is that, you know, this is the same
group that consummated the Anthony Davis trade, and you know,
(33:17):
if you talk to people around the league, the thing
you hear a lot is like, yeah, they probably won
the trade, but they lost the negotiation, right, And what
I mean by that is probably an extra that they
were bidding against themselves in that process, and Anthony Davison
Clutches steered this the ship to the Lakers. Had the
Lakers maybe been a little more patient, maybe they hang out,
Maybe they hang on to Josh Hard, you know, maybe
they hang onto a future first round pick or a
(33:41):
pick swap or something like that, or maybe one of
the first asin u becomes a swap um. You know.
I think that that that sticker shot in the aftermath
of that trade. I think over time especially, it was
like they paid a lot and maybe didn't have to
pay quite as much. Now against the preco Beartrade, it
seems like, you know, okay, like they've got a pretty
(34:01):
good deal. But I think what I'm saying is you
have a group of people that that see similarities in
the situation. They see a trade market in which they're
probably the only bitter realistically, and so they don't want
to give on everything. Um. I think partly out of
principle and partly out of the fact that you know,
(34:22):
they know that they're long term risk associated with this. Yeah,
I guess when it gets down to it, Dan, I mean,
we're looking at you sync up Kyrie and Lebron. It's
one year of a reunion, and let's see how it goes, right,
because you're not you know, I just I don't think
it's a deal. I don't think it's that. I think
if you're a trading for Kyrie Kyrie, that the goal
(34:42):
is for kyr Irving and Anthony Davis to me the
future franchise. That's what I believe, right, I think goal wise,
But I just in the interim, right, you know, I
mean you only have him for one and whatever else. Yeah,
you only have him for one year under contract and
he could go do whatever he want. Is now, I
think the salace for the Lakers should be is that
(35:04):
by you know, I mean, I don't feel like I'm
breaking news by saying it's like he wants to be
on the Lakers. Sure, at least today well, but that's
the day, right, all right? From all reports, everything's cool.
Kyrie wants this to happen. Lebron wants this to happen.
Dree said whatever he needed to in public today. Again,
it's all my fault. He fell on the proverbial sword
(35:26):
for it and all ten million dollars difference in salaries.
I mean, what's the give in terms of players? We
keep seeing Curry's name, we see Joe Harris, Yeah, yeah,
I mean, look, and I think the Lakers would probably
like to add Taylan horn Tucker perhaps the deal too.
It doesn't really have a spotter, maybe Kendrick Nun. They've
got a lot of guards, especially if they've got guys
coming back in. I mean, look, is there a scenario
(35:49):
in which the Lakers end up trading both both both
first and Taylon Hornon Tucker and Kendrick Nunn and leave
the deal with Seth Curry, Joe Harris and Russell ust A.
Kyrie evering, I could see that happening. Um, you know,
I think there is obviously that the reason they would
like Seth Kuria how to Joe Harris, as you've got
a shorter contract and less injured concerns, right, Joe Harris
(36:10):
coming up the serious ankle surgery. The Lakers have been
hesitant about taking on long contracts for some reason. I
don't know why. I think you know there is I mean,
there is sort of an elephant in the room here too.
Now we don't really know the antity, or maybe we
do and we're not. We're not seeing it because maybe
they don't. Maybe maybe management doesn't think Lebron James and
(36:32):
Anthony Davis as a core is good enough anymore. That
could be. That's a possibility too, right as you see
the Western Conference shakeout the way it's shaking out, you know,
I mean Kevin Durant could be on the Phoenix suns um.
You know, like what is your belief level? And so
you want to you want to maintain some flexibility because
you have no draft flexibility. And the way you would
do that would be a short term contracts. As of
(36:53):
right now, the Lakers only have I think next year
is Anton Davis and I believe a player option from
Taylan hartin duck Well and obviously all these guys that
are dominating Summer League, they're coming to take over. Dan. Hey,
this is not a this is not a space for
Laker Summer league slander there. Two. And oh guys, it's
been a while since I covered a team above five
hundreds with the Lakers. So hey, if Cole Swider shoots
(37:15):
eighty percent from three, I think the Lakers win the title. Yeah,
it's hot. Yeah, I will say this. I did Texas
source with the Lakers about their summer league team a
little bit and said, hey, things are going pretty well,
and he said, well, to be honest, we've only played
against one NBA player. He was referring to Mosis Moody,
who played yesterday for the Warriors. And this is what
(37:36):
I responded, So obviously, you guys were probably doing things
that were much better than watching Laker summer LEAs beastly yesterday.
Moses Moody in that game like cut an elbow like
two minutes in and had to leave to go get stitches.
And I'm like, yeah, and you guys blinded that guy,
like amazing strategy. Well, I mean, you can't fall to
good strategy. I was watching the Elvis film, which I
really liked, except it was a little bloated like me,
(37:59):
you know, oh it seems and maybe, okay, I mean
this is maybe a little on the nose. It seems
like a little sparkly for me, like maybe like an
like an elvit like an Elvis robe like and and
look maybe that's appropriate given the subject matter. I just
you know, I don't know. It seems like it's uh,
(38:20):
it seems like a movie. Is It's not a boss
Lerman movie? Is it? It is? It is a boss
Lerman movie. I would you say it looks very much
like a bust also very sparkly like a robe or
may not have from my childhood boy Dan woe with
us NBA inside a reporter for the La Times. All right,
now we have to get to the GBUS cryptic midnight tweet.
(38:42):
All right, it's starting to gain a lot of attention.
Right around midnight, she put out this tweet, I miss KB,
referring to Kobe Bryant, maybe Kwame Brown. I'm assuming Kobe Bryant.
Kobe Bryant, he would understand and explain everything that I'm
not allowed to. Honestly, he was the greatest lake or ever.
He understood team over self, meaning your rewards would come
(39:05):
if you valued team goals over your own, then everything
would fall into place. All can reply and it's you know,
people are applying, it's gaining a lot of attention. This
is a very cryptic tweet. Is it about lebron and
Clutch Sports? Is it about Kyrie Irving? Is it about
the state of the NBA? What? What? What's your takeaway
from what you see from this tweet from Genie Buss.
(39:25):
I think I did a little I did a little
digging on this, guys. I think it's about Kobe Bryant. Okay,
And the reason why is you can you can scroll
over the guy, don't. I don't mean to tell all
my my tricks here. You can scroll over and you
can see the tweets that Genny Buss is liked in
the last twenty four hours, and they're all about Kobe Bryant,
(39:48):
and they're all about you know, Kobe memories or Kobe's
the goat, or you know more players he'd understand, like
Kobe Bryan blah blah blah blah blah. Right Like, so,
I do think it is about Kobe. However, as an
owner in the NBA, right now you are seeing you,
I would imagine you know this this tremendous shift in power.
I mean, you know, you know it's been a player's driven,
(40:10):
a player driven league for a while. Now you're seeing
that power being kind of actualized. And I don't want
to say player empowerment. It's like that that seems like
a cliche. But I think what you're seeing though, is
I mean, you do have a guy like Kevin Durandon
goes to front office management says like I want out
and he has for you know, he's got multiple years
left on a contract. Um, you have a player and
(40:32):
carrier ring involving the stuff who you know that sort
of held his franchise hostage in a lot of ways
from the last deal. Plus, so you know, I think
I think what got her thinking about Kobe Bryant's kind
of maybe maybe the question here. I do think the
tweet itself is about Kobe Brant. I don't think. I
(40:52):
don't think Genie has won a subtweet now, this is
a lebroad tweet. I think, Well, the thing is, Dan,
I look at this and I go, Okay, it could
be about all of these things. It could be about Kobe,
and I'm missing him because things would be different. And
I'm fighting with Clutch Sports and we you know, we
made a bad trade in the NBA and certain rules
(41:14):
are frustrating. I get all of this. But what I
take away from this, and this is what I want,
is that in all the conversations we have about the Lakers,
it's about Lebron and Clutch Sports running the team. What
about Rob Polinka's job? What the and never is Genie
Buss mentioned? And the word allowed to here is the
weird part? Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. Well, but is
(41:37):
that just the being She's allowed to do whatever she wants.
She's the governor of the team, right, And that's what
and that's my point is that I get that she's everybody.
Every owner has their different style and and there's different
ways people do things, and she's not quite the attention
seeker that Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban are. But this
is the point where I go, you know what, the
(42:00):
Lakers are a mess. This is where I need Genie
Bus to stand up and say, Okay, I'm the owner,
I'm the one calling the shots, and this is how
we're going to get out of This is how we're
gonna get out of Russell Westbrook. This is how we're
going to get out of the image of the team
being a you know, being where it is right now.
This is where I need Geennie Bus to go. Okay,
you know what, none of this clutch sports stuff. I'm
the owner and this is how we're going to do it.
I just don't think that's her And um, I think,
(42:23):
you know, and this is probably a really good trait
as a person and maybe not always a great trade
as an owner. And I think history shouldn't that gene
Bust wants to think a lot of people happy, you know,
as many people as possible, right like that that is
sort of who she is. She is a very friendly
person who, um, I think wants to wants to do
(42:45):
the right thing, but wants to do the right thing
by as many people as possible, and sometimes that gets
in the way of difficult to see, you know, Um,
I believe it. But still at some point you're the owner.
This is is you have to be the one to
do this. I get mean, I agree that, I agree
that it's the obvious. I just think that we're talking
about you know, the person, right, And this is why
(43:06):
there's been, um, you know, a vacuum of power, right,
and why people have been able to to to kind
of come in and and have their way, you know,
have their their sort of will, their sort of wills
met as they've as they've kind of navigated um through
like lak Er done right. Like there's there's a lot
(43:28):
of actors that have been able to to kind of
assemble power and keep power quickly or you know, seemingly
lose power but actually not. It's I mean, there's tremendous
sort of palace intrigue with this organization. And I think,
you know, part of the reason why is because you
have a very nice person at the top of it.
And nice doesn't always nice doesn't always pay the bills, right,
(43:50):
Like it just kind of like you're right in this situation.
It would be great if you had like a clear direction,
if you had you know, a Stan Cronkey level of
you know, you empower your channel manager to say aff
the picks and you go, you know what I mean,
and like we're just we're going to do whatever it takes.
But you know, you there. I'm sure there are messages
coming from a lot of different people, and if it's
(44:10):
a I think at times it's really good and at
times as negative. But I think Genie has very open
ears of these things. Yeah, I think part of it
comes back to and Jason and I were talking about
it earlier, Dan, is you know they're they're used to,
at least on the surface, that direct connection that you'd
established with a player. And I wondered to some degree
if there isn't a bit of that lamentation here with
(44:34):
what Kobe Bryant was straight shooter right, at least from
everything we've ever heard. Whereas now you've got so many
other outside forces, whether in the building or literally outside
the building, that you don't you don't get to establish
quite the same same space here that Magic is going
to be really mad based on you know, Kobe now
(44:56):
being the best laker. Well Magic, I think Magic would
sign off on that opinion generally he's thinking. But I mean,
I think he's an interesting case study of this, right is,
Like you know, you have Magic Johnson who told us
the reporters that he was quitting the job before he
had told Jeanie, right, and like it puts like it
was a very chaotic moment and stuff like that. But like,
I mean, Magic and Genie are incredibly close still, you know, um,
(45:19):
like we know that that Magic was consulted or spoken
to it at points during time um, you know, post
Frank Vogel hiring, he spoken to when they hired Frank Glogel.
You know, I mean, like, I think that that sort
of speaks to the issue is you have an incredibly
loyal person and you know, and I think, look and
(45:39):
Kobe Bryant, um ultimately, right, was incredibly loyal to the
Lakers franchise to fight some trade demands here and there
and things like that, and the Lakers gave him a
lot of reasons to be loyal. But but I think
I think it's a combination of all these things at
this time, right, Like, I think that's a call she
would make, you know, I actually I know that as
a call she would make. Right now, she tries and
tries to weigh what to do, or as the organization
(46:01):
tries to weigh what it does. I just think that
to your point, right like, she is allowed to understand
and make any decisions you want. She runs the lake
and UM, at times I think the organization will benefit
if um that was that power was more acted upon.
Now now, now before we let you go, now, you
gotta you gotta, you know, gotta put this in perspective
(46:22):
for us who was closer Genie Bust and Magic Johnson
or you and Spencer Halls. I think it's Genie and Magic. However,
I don't know that they've ever toasted over fireworks in
Manhattan Beach that night, So it is a good question.
Sometimes guys, it's about quality time, about quantity and no,
(46:43):
that's true. Let's say that's our words of wisdom right there,
Dan Wow, he's on Twitter at Dan Woike Sports. That
is at Dan Woike Sports, La Times, NBA insider and
reporter Dan Happy, fourth of July and hopefully you're not
writing a column later on today at the Lakers using
(47:04):
the mid level you put, well, you just willed it
into existence, so that just yeah, you know, and it's
gonna be jello ball. So congratulations, that's what it's gonna be. Like,
take it easy body. I'm happy for uh Dan Wicky,
great stuff from him there. You know. Look, my whole point, Mike,
with with the Lakers is that is there's so many
(47:26):
reports of different factions of the team that are running
things where they're gonna go. And you know, but sometimes
when you're the owner, even if it's not your thing,
you gotta do it. There's certain things in life that
it's not your personality like I don't want I don't
like confrontation or I would rather not do this. But
once in a while, it's, uh, this is a job,
you know, that's a Don Martin or boss what always
ad that's the job, a man, that's the job. I mean,
(47:48):
once a while, this is the job. And this is
the job for Genie Bus to say, hey, okay, all
this craziness and this the dumpster fire reputation the organization
is going through. This has to stop, like right now,
what's the old Lion about power and responsibility? And spider Man,
Spider Man, spider Man Twitter at how about a fresca
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