July 7, 2022 • 36 mins
Jason and Mike react to Baker Mayfield heading over to battle Sam Darnold with the Panthers, the Seahawks let go of Russell Wilson to give Pete Carroll the power back, and Burger King needs to make a comeback!
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Mike Carmen. Here Fox Sports Radio. A beautiful Wednesday night,
all sorts of Major League Baseball action. Dan, I've got
a bowling match going on here. Fox Sports wanted the
p B A the Lumberjacks plus thirty eight going up
against the Pounders. And I gotta say, there was a
guy going up and he was getting ready to roll,
and behind him there was a guy that I swear
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has embodied every bit of Bob Ross. I thought he
was gonna start painting in the air. That would be
little trees. I did not hear a word you said
after Pounders. I have never heard of that as a
team name before. I don't even want to know what
the logo is. I I don't I don't even want
to know. But well, I'm gonna talk to our guy,
Rob Stone and the others that cover the p b
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A for Fox Sports one and see if I can't
get one of those sweet jerseys walking around the streets
of l A. I don't have the Bowling on on
my screen, but my my curiosity is there are no numbers. Correct.
I've seen bowling shirts and so, but these like, because
it's a team event, there's no no one's like, you know,
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number sixty nine or anything. A bunch of sponsors on
the bat, a lot of sponsors, a lot of sponsors,
like it's a NASCAR fire suit. The crowds going wild
now they're they're into the crowd spraying beer on them.
May this is fantastic. Kimberly Pressler trying to keep herself dry.
You got one guy with green hair, the Bob Ross, uh,
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the aforementioned guy, and then the leader. What it it looks like,
um Curly Joe from the Old Three Stooges. Not the
guy you know is Curly, the other guy Curly Joe.
I honestly, as I was setting things up tonight, I'm like,
can we got some baseball? You know, something may happen
at NBA Summer League, so let's set up the screen
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for that no offense. But I had I was I
was not prepared to have to change the dial to
the Professional Bowling Association. Well, you know, sitting here in
the Fox Sports Radio studios, I was blessed with multiple screens,
and it was glorious. I mean, because you had a
guy I don't know if he's the team manager or what.
He's just did a matching soup coat. He's not even
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wearing the the pull over jersey, so I don't I
don't even know what's going on. But I mean minus
thirty nine was the spread going into that final frame.
If you were live betting. Uh and and I was not.
I was not. I do love how they're how how
there are no jersey numbers because there would be sponsorships
that would use that space a lot better, which, by
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the way, could be professional sports in twenty years. That
set off foul on five. It's gonna be all right,
foul follow follow on. You know, whatever ad you want
to put who who? Who do we got tonight? You
know we could there, we can throw anybody in. Well,
the best of it is that none of their uh
I guess we'll call them jerseys for lack of a
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better term. They're not set up the same like over
the uh like the breast pocket. You know, there's a
different logo. There's actually different Oh no, they got their
names in script on the day, like the one guy
that they really focused on. It was really an artistic signature.
And then I mean there's a guy named Packy. I
don't know, I don't know what that guy's dealings. Uh yeah,
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I thought there you go. Uh. Welcome in Wednesday night
Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen, Dan Bayer with you here,
uh in the studios, having some von Alex Fenley and
of course Justin Frostberg with us the big story of
the day. It's something we're fine fin I wanted to
pop champagne this morning when this deal finally got consummated
after months of speculation. And where's he going to be? Well,
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Baker Mayfield is finally on his way to Carolina. That
battle of former top three picks from the eighteen draft
can finally let's get it on. In terms of trying
to save Matt Rule's job, Teppers going through a little
chapter a leven reorganization in his finances, all of that
fun stuff going on. Cleveland's gonna eat ten point five
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million dollars as part of the salary split. Dan Mayfield
just said, I just I need this done. So he
actually eight three point five million office salary and Caroline
is gonna pay him five million to get you to
your your total and make everybody whole. Uh. Fifth round
pick can improve you know one of those Hey, let's
see if he gets on the field, if he plays well,
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this will work. And now it's Jacoby Bursett is your
man in Cleveland. We knew Mayfield wasn't gonna stick around.
All of the wishing and hoping that you've seen, well,
it would make sense for him to do that or
you know, swallow his pride or whatever. No, no, no,
you know, we we heard it last week when he
was at that football camp, and he tried to be
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as diplomatic as he could, but it was inevitable that
we were getting to this point. It was just gonna
be a matter of the cost. And now we look
what the Carolina quarterback room looks like. You've got Donald,
you've got Matt Correll coming in, and obviously now Baker Mayfield,
who's got a a distance to make up, as we
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were only a couple of weeks away from training camp,
trying to ramp up and get himself right to make
it an actual competition is going to be a tough process. Dan,
But you know this is the one of the two teams, right,
It was the coin flipped all along, and and well,
now Carolina has their man, but he's got a They've
got two guys that are pretty much the same guy
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at this point. Yeah, And and that's why I actually
think Baker Mayfield is the starter, because I think they
know what they have and Sam Donald, and I know
that there's a new offensive coordinator in there with Ben McAdoo.
He didn't like Baker when Baker was coming out of
the draft. Remember he had him six out of that class.
But if if Matt Rule, by the way, it's Ben
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mcindoo too, so that I mean, let's just let that
breathe a second. If if Matt Rule really wants to
save his job, he knows what he has in Sam Donald.
And listen, maybe Scott Fitterer makes the deal because they
don't want Matt Rule to have the job anymore. But
the point is is you know what you have in Donald.
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So then to me, the decision is Baker or Corral. Well,
Krass probably not ready, and Baker's still just got the
one year. You know, he's playing on the final year
of his deal, so you have to at least know
what you're getting, or what he would have to be
able to even want to make a decision if he
was better than advertised for next year. So that's why
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I just think that the the the urgency of everything, Mike,
it's not just the urgency of Baker's contract, but it's
the urgency of Matt Rule, and it's where the Panthers are.
And I think the Panthers are, Okay, I don't know,
the quarterback position is what holds them back, and maybe
the health of Christian McCaffrey as well. But the pensively,
they have pieces on the outside, they have pieces. So
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you just I think you gotta go with the high
ceiling guy. And out of those guys right now, at
this minute, I just think Baker Mayfield is your guy.
And I just I think he starts week one because
they're so urgent. Everything has to be urgent, Foreigner style
in Charlotte this season. I was really well done because
if not, I was gonna start singing this song myself
as soon as you've said urgent twice. Uh, So we
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got there. Look, d J. Moore, we know what he is.
They just re uped with him. Robby Anderson might be
looking around going what what is the deal here? Uh?
And then you got Terrace Marshall Jr. And anybody that's
been following off season work and seeing, you know, some
of the hype machine with in teams within the league.
He's one of the guys that's kind of gotten a
little bit of a push, say, and we'll look for
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him to be a bigger deal in year two. Well,
obviously that means the quarterback position has to improve markedly
right off the jump. Now, Ian Thomas is a guy
you and I have talked about a bunch for the
watch your flex purposes, waiting to see what he is
tremble behind him. Uh. And then the billion dollar question
is how many games are you getting out of Christian
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McCaffrey behind a bad offensive line? Right? Because even if
they upgrade right and they made a they made a
pick in the first round to go get a left tackle,
that's great. I am not so certain that you've got
a line that's gonna be great. But one of the
Baker's strengths when he's healthy is a bit of the
improvisational right that he does move around is he's smaller,
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and if he takes the big hit, are you concerned? Absolutely?
But when we're trying to see what you're ceiling is right,
they brought in Higgins from Cleveland. I mean that's a
question mark as well. But you're you're looking at a
guy that you've got one year we played really well.
You can't say the same for Sam Donald, Right, He's
had a couple of games and a couple of series.
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Maybe you could point to a month where things worked out,
but Baker go back a couple of years and obviously
had a much better supporting cast, both offensively and defensively
than then Sam Donald has ever seen, either as a
jet or in his year in Carolina. But you've at
least seen what the ceiling could be if things break right.
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And I dare say, you know he's now on that
proven again, right because the chip on the shoulder, Yeah,
we I gotta chuckled when it was look at. He's
still salty. It's like, well, he's the number one pick,
So how much of that is a good acting job
versus how he really is Now he's he's in a
different stop, right, He's no longer got the built in
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I was the guy they wanted. I was the guy
they picked first overall, and and you can have a
little bit of that ego. Ego has got to be
stripped away to a degree here. That's gonna be one
of the big questions for him entering that Carolina locker
room of whether what whatever is real versus imagined of
his relationship in Cleveland. We know he's got to be
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better in terms of dealing with his teammates here, otherwise
it's not gonna play. Yeah, the chip on the shoulder. UH.
Aspect is why Mike I thought that the Seahawks were
gonna still be in play despite a lot of reports
saying that they weren't, because I feel like Pete Carroll
has something to prove and that front office has something
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to prove. But it's also Mike why I like Detroit
as a possibility before he ultimately ended up in Carolina,
because that, to me, was the ultimate prove it. Nobody,
you know, nobody likes us or not. Nobody likes this.
Everybody counts this out, nobody believes in us. That sort
of thing. It's that narrative all the way through. Is
why I liked Baker going to a situation like that
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now in Carolina, at least there's the parallel of him
and Matt rule of a nobody thinks that we can
do it where this could be our last shot. I
I don't know what works is, Mike, but I think
it's going to be better her than what it was
last year in Cleveland, and I know that's not saying much.
I am curious to see if Baker is like, all right,
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it's time to rip it and show what I can do,
or if he just works on the within the parameters
like he did two years ago where he had his
best season, and that should be enough to get him
the next contract in the NFL. So I am curious
on if the chip on the shoulder thing is all right.
I'm gonna show him who Baker is or chip on
my shoulder. We're all gonna ride together and get this
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thing done and will pay off for me in the
long run. That's the one question that I have now
over under coming into the day. I've seen it at
six or six and a half for Carolina. Uh, depending
on where you're looking. You got a little bit of
movement here. Obviously not expecting world beating numbers out of
this squad, but like improvement and trying to find a
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direction up. The one thing I wanted to address before
we pause and put a pin in it and then
look at you mentioned the Seahawks is the fact that
everybody went to the well he was hurt last year. Yeah,
a lot of guys play hurt it and you know what,
when he played hurt, he wasn't good. He wasn't good. Okay,
to the point where Jason and I debated it a bunch.
You and I talked about it on the I Watch
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a Flex podcast Bucky Brooks and on Sundays, Like, at
what point do you just say, all, right, case Keenum
has to be as good or better than where Baker
is right now. But because you're beholding to that number
one draft picks status and you know the questions of
what you're doing with that final year of the rookie deal,
you don't make the move until he's physically unable to perform. Altogether.
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I don't think anybody did anybody each other any favors
last year in Cleveland, no question about. I agree with
you there at Dan Buyer on Foxes where you find
him you here on weekdays here as part of the
Doug Gottlieb Show Noon Deal three Pacific. UH. You can
find that on the I Heart Radio app wherever you
get your audio of Fox Sports Radio dot com. We
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appreciate you hanging out UH and being part of the
show at Swollen Dome. If your your love it or
hating the deal, you want to get your one liners in,
we'll have them for you over the course of the night.
But coming up next we'll turn to the Seattle side
of things because we have news from ownership, but also
still the question of who's under center for them this fall.
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We'll continue with that next. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays
at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Hey, welcome back in.
It's Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carman.
Jason out tonight, Dan Buyer in his stead. We're efforting
the schedule and release dates for I Want You Flex
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Season three. If you have content, thoughts, stat pools, things
you want us to yell at each other about in
hot take nonsense. Uh, put the hashtag hot take nonsense
in at swollen home and let me know what you're envisioning.
I'm all for it. Hey, I responded to that earlier.
You know, Tory Smith went to uh Twitter to say, hey, Elvis, Uh,
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you know, was nothing compared to Michael Jackson. And I said,
be where hot take nonsense wherever you may find. It's
not just sports radio and sports television. No, no, no,
no no. Sometimes people go off and speak about that
and speak on truths on social media. There. I told you, Uh,
the the most overrated performer in history is Elvis. This
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from Tory Smith, go look at his stuff. It was
whack MJ walked circles around dude. H Well, in the
end they both had management that can kind of own
them and spun them into really bad habits and oh,
I don't know early demises. Listen, Elvis, Elvis has his
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critics from where he got his style and and uh,
you know where where he became Elvis. There is no
doubt about that. But the fact of the matter is
this sounds so much like a could Bill Russell guard
shack sort of argument that's really well put, really well put.
Let's talk generations, let's let's rank them. It's like a
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Mountain Rushmore kind of conversation. It's July. It fits so beautifully.
Forget about any technology that also maybe helped in music,
whether guys actually saying or not. Like, yeah, just aside,
go on and on a lot of similarities though if
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you compare some of the stuff that goes on there.
But that's not what we're here for. That's that's a
podcast to be named later at Dan Byron Foxes where
you find and find me over at Swollen Dome talking
about the Baker Mayfield saga, whatever you want to call it.
It's finally done. We don't have to speculate on him
and his whereabouts now, it's just the al right, I
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can't wait to grab some popcorn and watch every snap
that is visible between he and Sam Donald as they
battle for that top job. But what does it mean?
I mean, Seattle decided to move away. And obviously for
Pete Carroll, he had been complimentary of Drew Lock and
he he would have been the first guy drafted out
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of out of this class. So okay, trying to hype
him up, and Drew Lock got into a little bit
of beef the US Open taking shots at him and
he responded, and so we've got that going on. But
Drew Lock, honestly, it was poor Drew Lock. He got
you know, he just got caught up in the mess
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because the Seahawks fan had the respawned. Well you know,
he he had to. So for those that missed this,
you know, we go and we get to the fun
and exciting world of Twitter and Seahawks fan for life.
Gino Smith propagandists. We'll get to that in a second.
Uh have you replied, uh not a sport? Applying to
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something that Sports Center put out regarding the US Open.
US Open Tennis the verified account came back with quote,
not a word says the person about to watch seventeen
games of Drew Lock at quarterback. I would rather watch
seventeen games of Drew Lock because I've seen three of
Gino Smith and as a Seahawk fan. It makes the
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whole Baker Mayfield UH conundrum that much more interesting because
Mike the and and I give I give props to
Josina Anderson on this UH discover the NFL for a
while now with CBS Sports because a lot of people
have shot down that the Seahawks were interested in Baker Mayfield,
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and I believe that they were, but I just don't
believe that the front office was ever willing to pay
more than they have to. They that is kind of
their thing, and that's what actually makes the Jamal Adams
deal so much more crazier than it is, because it's
usually they're always trying to get the good deal or
that they're not willing to to do to overpay something.
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So that's so out of character the way that front
out off has operated. And obviously in the hey days,
as you experienced it and loved it with the Legion
of Boom, you had a lot of guys that we
talked about, chips on their shoulders, late round draft picks,
undrafted free agents, Russell in the third round, Marshawn Lynch
coming over from Buffalo. It all played together and it
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played beautifully. And now you're going into the next phase
trying to see if you can you know, catch lightning
in a bottle for a second time. Uh, you know
with the finishing off the the little Twitter thread here,
Uh you know you had the ratio comment again by
the Geno Smith propagandists. US Open had this ratings from
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Chris Sims that they quoted of here's my top forty quarterbacks.
Drew Lock was forty. If he just wrote back, happy
fourth to all, but especially to the intern at the
US Open with the crop laughing crying emoji, the United
States Flag of Heart, uh and twelves, which is you know,
look feed into it, wave the guy and then you
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go back to work. And now it's Drew Lock and
Gino Smith. Gino Smith, entering his second decade in the
National Football League. Famously a couple of weeks ago, had
had some talking points about his career and where it's
been and and some pointed comments saying well, we all
know why I haven't gotten a second shot to start,
and then you know, the battles begin over that. Uh,
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not much of it. Could be they watch game tape
and you weren't very good. Unfortunately it's the Jets, so
again you're you're kind of losing. Going back to the
Sam Donald argument, it's the same thing of all right,
decades of futility, poor drafting, poor management. Gino did have
a perfect game, uh perfect quarterback rating in a December
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game a couple of years ago, so that was all
fun and exciting. But now that's the battle that's set
up while you're still trying to figure out what you're
doing with DK Metcalf long term. Yeah, that's and those
decisions are going to be made. I would think at
some point, um, a deal with Metcalf gets done. If
I'm the Seahawks, I would want to do it before
every receiver ends up signing their long term deal. Then
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maybe you want to have to pay us much. But
Terry McLaurin beat him, and uh so they may have
to pay a little bit more. Now. The uh, the
whole thing is is with Seattle. My my takeaway with
this is Mike, because I believe Josina Anderson. I don't
believe the others in that the Seahawks weren't interested. I
think that they were, and I think that that she was.
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She's right about that. I think at the end, and
I mentioned the overpaying part, their question is how much
do we want to overpay when it's really and I
think this is the decision. It would be Baker Mayfield
or Drew Lock, And that's your decision. And I think
that Baker Mayfield would be the better quarterback. He's got
more on his resume. But is it was it worth
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the Seahawks giving up anything? And that was the one
thing that I thought if Baker took away so you know,
you know, relinquished some money and Clive unpaid for some
of it, you could get him pretty cheap. And that's
all that everything that happened with Carolina. So I was
surprised that that was the deal that went down that
Seattle wasn't even willing to do that because it would
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be down to Baker and it would be down to
Drew Lock if you were to bring all of those in,
just like it's it's probably down to uh, Matt Correll
or Baker Mayfield in my mind in Carolina, I don't
think Donald has a shot, but I could be wrong.
Even though a lot of people like him. I just
think Mike that the difference that they felt that they
had to give up wasn't worth it. And I was
surprised by that because I didn't think that that would
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be a lot. And maybe they're just gonna roll the
dice Withdrew Lock. Even though Pete Carroll is saying that
Gino Smith is your starting quarterback. I would love to
pull every Seahawk fan and just find out who they
really want to start, because there were three games with
Gino Smith last year that ended up being close games,
but it wasn't like, Man, this offense is cooking. And
at least maybe if Drew Lock can get the football
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to DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, it would be worthwhile.
But I'm just surprised I didn't take that risk. Uh,
the small risk of a conditional pick in four and
five million dollars to bring them in. Now, Seahawks chair
Jody Allen says the team's not for sale right now.
That uh and the Blazers in the holdings. UH, so
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you've got at least the stability and no imminent upheaval there.
I have a Pete Carroll theory. It's something we've kind
of bounced around here, uh in the studio, and we'll
get to it in a moment. But first, be sure
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Mike Carmen alongside Dan Buyer Jason Off tonight. Uh So
the idea that maybe Pete wants to be in control
again and felt maybe he'd lost some of that, lost
his way with Russell Wilson the last couple of years,
the way they had to maybe orchestrate the offense, maybe
the way things had to be orchestrated, just from a
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personnel standpoint. Whereas with Drew Lock coming out of his
time in Denver and Geno Smith, who's been in the
league again, you know, going into decade too, but been
a minute since he's been a regular starter, that he
can go back to basics of how he wants to
operate a scheme and both offensively and defensively. Uh and
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a lot of it's gonna depend on the health of
Penny in the backfield, right, that's the big beatmen you make.
But but but just the idea that you know, for
for Pete Carroll, it's his team again, right, just like
when all those guys were first coming up, that they
had to buy into what he was selling and then
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it kind of took on a life of its own
to great success. But now it's stripped back down. All
of those principal characters that are so beloved in Seahawks. Lord,
it's one of our great words on the show. Anymore
Dan's lore. Uh, those guys are all in retirement or
playing for other teams. So it's time for Pete Carroll
on that front office to do what they did a
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decade ago and try to hit it again from the
ground running. I don't I I think that is a
very sound theory. And and actually I think it's a
theory that scares a lot of Seahawk Ucks fans, like
like you present that to a Seahawks fan, and I
think that they're afraid of it because I think that
the NFL is different than it was a decade ago.
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And and and I know, like you have, you know
there there are teams specifically within that division, like the
San Francisco forty Niners, who kind of go against the
grain of a lot of the NFL. And and they've
had success with it. They also have had the personnel
with it. And I don't know if the Seahawks had
some of the personnel that that they needed at the time.
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Now they have personnel at the skill positions. And as
you mentioned, Riscod Benny Um and his health is a
is a big deal. I think there. I think you're right.
I think that there is really something to to what
you're saying, because I think Pete Carroll thinks in his
mind that, you know what, trying to satisfy two parties,
the Russell Wilson camp and the Pete Carroll camp not
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gonna work. It's just not gonna you know, like that's
and and I think that he looks at their downfall
or their lack of six US at times last season
as him giving up too much to Russell Wilson. And
I think you can even look back at other seasons
because it was a common theme there that now if
Pete has his fingerprints over everything, it's it's almost Mike
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and and and I apologize if this is uh kind
of what you said, but it's almost like you don't
think I can win. Not only can I win, I'm
gonna win with Geno Bleep and Smith, We're gonna do
it in my way. And if you look at the
three games that Smith played for Russell Wilson last year,
they had the overtime loss to the Steelers that was
on Sunday Night Football, They had lost an overtime in
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a close game to the Saints, and then they won
and they beat in bad Jacksonville team. But if you
remember like that Saints game, like they just they couldn't
do anything. They were just and it was just it
was it was a bad game. It was a lot
of dump offs there. Just But I think that Pete
Carroll wants to show that we can do it my way,
and not only that, like we can do it with
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Geno Smith. Like I there could be an argument that
they are tanking to get you know, maybe a top
quarterback in next year's draft, but I don't think that's
the case. I think that your theory of of wanting
to do it Pete's way could actually be in play. Yeah, Dan,
I think just part of it from a front office, right,
because look, I love organizational stability and continuity, but there
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is a time where what you've done just doesn't work.
And we talk about the Seahawks recent draft picks and
trying to hit on big swings, right, and it's not
you know, the the batting average to mix sports for
a second, uh is around where Cody Bellinger is. You know,
you've got your two oh five. So when we we
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look at for Pete Carroll, it's also credit that we
talk about a lot in sports, and we'll get into
Kevin Durant and whether he's gone dark on people reaching
out and whatever. But what was one of the reasons given,
at least from a lot of folks, of why he
left the Warriors. He didn't feel like he was getting
adequate credit, that it was Draymond, it was Steph, and
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that he was just a guy, even though he was
the finals MVP Pete Carroll. I think history his contribution
to stuff has been minimized because all those other guys
got deified along the way and canonized, lionized, And so
he wants to show, as he did at USC and
when they were first building this squad, that he still
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has it, that the game hasn't passed him by, And
I think that's a lot of it pushing forward into
this campaign. It's funny too as well. Some people thought
that maybe he would just ditch out on the Seahawks
kind of what happened at USC. I mean, what the
rats uh leaving a sinking ship as it were with USC. Yes, yeah,
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I just I think that he does. I mean because
because of his age, that this would be his last
go around, and with the ownership situation that you mentioned
at the top. I mean, he's practically running the team anyway,
so why would you walk away from that? No, that's
it unless he's gonna join the Big Ten Conference. He's
Dan Buyer. I'm like Carmen here in Fox Sports Radio.
That Sason Smith Show with Mike Carmen coming up next.
We always play that game of what if and how
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much would it cost to do X? Well, we get
to do it with a food item found in a wall.
What Yeah, we'll tell you about it next you're on Fox.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio
Jason Smith Show with Mike Armen. Dan Buyer in for
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Jason Smith tonight. A little later on tonight, we'll talk
about the top of your fantasy drafts. You know, I
have a mock draft that's are one of the experts draft,
So I guess it's not mock. It's real. Uh, the
Fantasy analysis draft that will start on the eleventh day,
the real deal, Holy Field. It begins. It's one of
those long, slow drafts that as you make your pick
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you've got to write the analysis of why you chose
them without without pushing down McCaffrey. Are you gonna be
like because I had to is that there's well, I
got the draft order. I'm in the sixth hole that
that could very well happen because he is a guy
that has been on my list. I did a podcast
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with one of our listeners and yesterday and he asked
that I left today obviously before the trade. I'm like,
I want no shares of Christian McCaffrey. And we went
through it all and whatever else, and I looked at
it and I get the notice and went through my email.
It's like, yeah, I've got the six slot. He's gonna
be staring me at the face in me although you
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know what, I've seen a lot of folks that still
have him as their number one, which I think is ambitious.
On we talked about that last Yeah, you're a yeah,
it is well, it all bleds together, Dan, but it
is just curious and obviously now you know, tongues are
wagging with the news of the deal and what that means.
But this is a story that I saw a little
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earlier in the week and and I thought you and
I were uniquely positioned to talk about this tonight. And obviously, uh,
Justin and Brian and al if you want to get
in on this, uh, please please do a mall In Delaware,
resident Jonathan Pruett put the photo up, but in Wilmington's
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Concord Mall it was sealed off. You had this issue
and you had a Burger King restaurant that they were
able to pull out. A vintage is what they're calling it,
because everybody's gotta be funny about it. Uh, mab Burger
that was in the wall. So they were operational until
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two thousand nine. And it still has kind of the
eighties nineties vibes in it. They say to the parquet floor,
it's kind of just been frozen in time. And now
that they're sealing it all, unsealing it and trying to,
you know, push and do some construction and refurbish things. Uh,
they found a Burger in the wall, so it's got
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to be from at least two thousand nine. What would
it take as then someone slapping on dollars like the
old Klondike bar ads or or the million dollar man
ted d base to get you the wolf down? Said
Burger from the wall. Uh listen, we we did the
tops chewing gum from the late eighties on the podcast.
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This is a different story. Um, you're not getting me
to do this, but I if I do have something
to say though about this place. So I don't want
to leave the hamburger hanging because I am curious on
if if the other guys would even touch it. There.
There is no price that I would touch it. But
there's something I want to say about this about this restaurant.
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Now we know we have seen perfect preservation of McDonald's
hamburgers for science experiments, and obviously supersize me had some
thoughts on the preservatives and everything else in there. Frostberg,
you in oh hell no, okay? Uh? Tie shirt started
to eat meat again so that we can actually ask
him this question. A one, it's well aged. Well, that's it,
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it's aged beef. I don't know, man, it's still a
little fishy to me. I don't know if I could
do it. It was actually mean Dave Buyer of course,
the master und tons of fun. That's what I try
to get Dan family, you over there, what do you
think you in on this? You out? What? What's what's
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the cost the cost is somebody's got to empty out
my stomach. I'm gonna go ten million, ten million dollars
because think about this guy's a lot. This ingested could
cause all sorts of problems healthwise. Well, I mean, look,
his best DOS was outlawed long before two thousand nine,
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so they would have had to in make upgrades. So
I can at least I think reasonably rule that out
as a possible contaminant to take me down two million
for the medical bills. Right, well, it goes to the
lawyers for process seeing it. Thank you very much. Uh Dan,
what's your thought on this? Okay? This, this Burger King
is so fallen behind everyone else. I used to be
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a huge Burger King fan. I always felt like it
was second or third behind McDonald's and depending hard ease
Carl's Junior wherever you were. But I was like Burger
King was second or third. Now they're like ten like
nobody nobody's like I want to go to Burger King anymore.
They need to change to this retro style that they found.
Like Pizza Hut tries to fool everybody because their pizza
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is old. They try to make it seem like it's
the old school pizza hut that everybody fell in love
with when they were a kid. But the new taste
is just it's not the same. If you're Burger King,
I would go all in, Mike, I would open that.
I would just you know, sweep everything up, wipe off
the tables, open this bad boy up. Burger King should
go full retro nineteen eighties to try to bring everybody
(35:49):
back el Since they have popped up in stranger things
set in the eighties, why not capitalize on that, go
back to the nostalgia, because let's facing we're also got
so any different chicken tenders, places that have totally and
chicken sandwich places that have dominated the burger market. What
else you got to lose? Burger King? You know it's
it madness, I tell you madness. He's damn buyer in
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Er go, I am the captain. Now take it from
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(00:44):
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whatever it is. Mike Carmon alongside Dan Flier, there is
no Jason Smith tonight. He has gone a wall. If
you see him out and about eating his third or
fourth Big Mac the day, stop him. We're worried of
his cholesterol. But welcome in The Jason Smith Show with
(01:06):
Mike Carmen. Here Fox Sports Radio. A beautiful Wednesday night,
all sorts of Major League Baseball action. Dan, I've got
a bowling match going on here. Fox Sports wanted the
p B A the Lumberjacks plus thirty eight going up
against the Pounders. And I gotta say, there was a
guy going up and he was getting ready to roll,
and behind him there was a guy that I swear
(01:27):
has embodied every bit of Bob Ross. I thought he
was gonna start painting in the air. That would be
little trees. I did not hear a word you said
after Pounders. I have never heard of that as a
team name before. I don't even want to know what
the logo is. I I don't I don't even want
to know. But well, I'm gonna talk to our guy,
Rob Stone and the others that cover the p b
(01:49):
A for Fox Sports one and see if I can't
get one of those sweet jerseys walking around the streets
of l A. I don't have the Bowling on on
my screen, but my my curiosity is there are no numbers. Correct.
I've seen bowling shirts and so, but these like, because
it's a team event, there's no no one's like, you know,
(02:11):
number sixty nine or anything. A bunch of sponsors on
the bat, a lot of sponsors, a lot of sponsors,
like it's a NASCAR fire suit. The crowds going wild
now they're they're into the crowd spraying beer on them.
May this is fantastic. Kimberly Pressler trying to keep herself dry.
You got one guy with green hair, the Bob Ross, uh,
(02:31):
the aforementioned guy, and then the leader. What it it looks like,
um Curly Joe from the Old Three Stooges. Not the
guy you know is Curly, the other guy Curly Joe.
I honestly, as I was setting things up tonight, I'm like,
can we got some baseball? You know, something may happen
at NBA Summer League, so let's set up the screen
(02:51):
for that no offense. But I had I was I
was not prepared to have to change the dial to
the Professional Bowling Association. Well, you know, sitting here in
the Fox Sports Radio studios, I was blessed with multiple screens,
and it was glorious. I mean, because you had a
guy I don't know if he's the team manager or what.
He's just did a matching soup coat. He's not even
(03:12):
wearing the the pull over jersey, so I don't I
don't even know what's going on. But I mean minus
thirty nine was the spread going into that final frame.
If you were live betting. Uh and and I was not.
I was not. I do love how they're how how
there are no jersey numbers because there would be sponsorships
that would use that space a lot better, which, by
(03:34):
the way, could be professional sports in twenty years. That
set off foul on five. It's gonna be all right,
foul follow follow on. You know, whatever ad you want
to put who who? Who do we got tonight? You
know we could there, we can throw anybody in. Well,
the best of it is that none of their uh
I guess we'll call them jerseys for lack of a
(03:54):
better term. They're not set up the same like over
the uh like the breast pocket. You know, there's a
different logo. There's actually different Oh no, they got their
names in script on the day, like the one guy
that they really focused on. It was really an artistic signature.
And then I mean there's a guy named Packy. I
don't know, I don't know what that guy's dealings. Uh yeah,
(04:19):
I thought there you go. Uh. Welcome in Wednesday night
Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen, Dan Bayer with you here,
uh in the studios, having some von Alex Fenley and
of course Justin Frostberg with us the big story of
the day. It's something we're fine fin I wanted to
pop champagne this morning when this deal finally got consummated
after months of speculation. And where's he going to be? Well,
(04:43):
Baker Mayfield is finally on his way to Carolina. That
battle of former top three picks from the eighteen draft
can finally let's get it on. In terms of trying
to save Matt Rule's job, Teppers going through a little
chapter a leven reorganization in his finances, all of that
fun stuff going on. Cleveland's gonna eat ten point five
(05:06):
million dollars as part of the salary split. Dan Mayfield
just said, I just I need this done. So he
actually eight three point five million office salary and Caroline
is gonna pay him five million to get you to
your your total and make everybody whole. Uh. Fifth round
pick can improve you know one of those Hey, let's
see if he gets on the field, if he plays well,
(05:28):
this will work. And now it's Jacoby Bursett is your
man in Cleveland. We knew Mayfield wasn't gonna stick around.
All of the wishing and hoping that you've seen, well,
it would make sense for him to do that or
you know, swallow his pride or whatever. No, no, no,
you know, we we heard it last week when he
was at that football camp, and he tried to be
(05:51):
as diplomatic as he could, but it was inevitable that
we were getting to this point. It was just gonna
be a matter of the cost. And now we look
what the Carolina quarterback room looks like. You've got Donald,
you've got Matt Correll coming in, and obviously now Baker Mayfield,
who's got a a distance to make up, as we
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were only a couple of weeks away from training camp,
trying to ramp up and get himself right to make
it an actual competition is going to be a tough process. Dan,
But you know this is the one of the two teams, right,
It was the coin flipped all along, and and well,
now Carolina has their man, but he's got a They've
got two guys that are pretty much the same guy
(06:34):
at this point. Yeah, And and that's why I actually
think Baker Mayfield is the starter, because I think they
know what they have and Sam Donald, and I know
that there's a new offensive coordinator in there with Ben McAdoo.
He didn't like Baker when Baker was coming out of
the draft. Remember he had him six out of that class.
But if if Matt Rule, by the way, it's Ben
(06:55):
mcindoo too, so that I mean, let's just let that
breathe a second. If if Matt Rule really wants to
save his job, he knows what he has in Sam Donald.
And listen, maybe Scott Fitterer makes the deal because they
don't want Matt Rule to have the job anymore. But
the point is is you know what you have in Donald.
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So then to me, the decision is Baker or Corral. Well,
Krass probably not ready, and Baker's still just got the
one year. You know, he's playing on the final year
of his deal, so you have to at least know
what you're getting, or what he would have to be
able to even want to make a decision if he
was better than advertised for next year. So that's why
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I just think that the the the urgency of everything, Mike,
it's not just the urgency of Baker's contract, but it's
the urgency of Matt Rule, and it's where the Panthers are.
And I think the Panthers are, Okay, I don't know,
the quarterback position is what holds them back, and maybe
the health of Christian McCaffrey as well. But the pensively,
they have pieces on the outside, they have pieces. So
(08:03):
you just I think you gotta go with the high
ceiling guy. And out of those guys right now, at
this minute, I just think Baker Mayfield is your guy.
And I just I think he starts week one because
they're so urgent. Everything has to be urgent, Foreigner style
in Charlotte this season. I was really well done because
if not, I was gonna start singing this song myself
as soon as you've said urgent twice. Uh, So we
(08:26):
got there. Look, d J. Moore, we know what he is.
They just re uped with him. Robby Anderson might be
looking around going what what is the deal here? Uh?
And then you got Terrace Marshall Jr. And anybody that's
been following off season work and seeing, you know, some
of the hype machine with in teams within the league.
He's one of the guys that's kind of gotten a
little bit of a push, say, and we'll look for
(08:48):
him to be a bigger deal in year two. Well,
obviously that means the quarterback position has to improve markedly
right off the jump. Now, Ian Thomas is a guy
you and I have talked about a bunch for the
watch your flex purposes, waiting to see what he is
tremble behind him. Uh. And then the billion dollar question
is how many games are you getting out of Christian
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McCaffrey behind a bad offensive line? Right? Because even if
they upgrade right and they made a they made a
pick in the first round to go get a left tackle,
that's great. I am not so certain that you've got
a line that's gonna be great. But one of the
Baker's strengths when he's healthy is a bit of the
improvisational right that he does move around is he's smaller,
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and if he takes the big hit, are you concerned? Absolutely?
But when we're trying to see what you're ceiling is right,
they brought in Higgins from Cleveland. I mean that's a
question mark as well. But you're you're looking at a
guy that you've got one year we played really well.
You can't say the same for Sam Donald, Right, He's
had a couple of games and a couple of series.
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Maybe you could point to a month where things worked out,
but Baker go back a couple of years and obviously
had a much better supporting cast, both offensively and defensively
than then Sam Donald has ever seen, either as a
jet or in his year in Carolina. But you've at
least seen what the ceiling could be if things break right.
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And I dare say, you know he's now on that
proven again, right because the chip on the shoulder, Yeah,
we I gotta chuckled when it was look at. He's
still salty. It's like, well, he's the number one pick,
So how much of that is a good acting job
versus how he really is Now he's he's in a
different stop, right, He's no longer got the built in
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I was the guy they wanted. I was the guy
they picked first overall, and and you can have a
little bit of that ego. Ego has got to be
stripped away to a degree here. That's gonna be one
of the big questions for him entering that Carolina locker
room of whether what whatever is real versus imagined of
his relationship in Cleveland. We know he's got to be
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better in terms of dealing with his teammates here, otherwise
it's not gonna play. Yeah, the chip on the shoulder. UH.
Aspect is why Mike I thought that the Seahawks were
gonna still be in play despite a lot of reports
saying that they weren't, because I feel like Pete Carroll
has something to prove and that front office has something
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to prove. But it's also Mike why I like Detroit
as a possibility before he ultimately ended up in Carolina,
because that, to me, was the ultimate prove it. Nobody,
you know, nobody likes us or not. Nobody likes this.
Everybody counts this out, nobody believes in us. That sort
of thing. It's that narrative all the way through. Is
why I liked Baker going to a situation like that
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now in Carolina, at least there's the parallel of him
and Matt rule of a nobody thinks that we can
do it where this could be our last shot. I
I don't know what works is, Mike, but I think
it's going to be better her than what it was
last year in Cleveland, and I know that's not saying much.
I am curious to see if Baker is like, all right,
(12:07):
it's time to rip it and show what I can do,
or if he just works on the within the parameters
like he did two years ago where he had his
best season, and that should be enough to get him
the next contract in the NFL. So I am curious
on if the chip on the shoulder thing is all right.
I'm gonna show him who Baker is or chip on
my shoulder. We're all gonna ride together and get this
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thing done and will pay off for me in the
long run. That's the one question that I have now
over under coming into the day. I've seen it at
six or six and a half for Carolina. Uh, depending
on where you're looking. You got a little bit of
movement here. Obviously not expecting world beating numbers out of
this squad, but like improvement and trying to find a
(12:48):
direction up. The one thing I wanted to address before
we pause and put a pin in it and then
look at you mentioned the Seahawks is the fact that
everybody went to the well he was hurt last year. Yeah,
a lot of guys play hurt it and you know what,
when he played hurt, he wasn't good. He wasn't good. Okay,
to the point where Jason and I debated it a bunch.
You and I talked about it on the I Watch
(13:10):
a Flex podcast Bucky Brooks and on Sundays, Like, at
what point do you just say, all, right, case Keenum
has to be as good or better than where Baker
is right now. But because you're beholding to that number
one draft picks status and you know the questions of
what you're doing with that final year of the rookie deal,
you don't make the move until he's physically unable to perform. Altogether.
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I don't think anybody did anybody each other any favors
last year in Cleveland, no question about. I agree with
you there at Dan Buyer on Foxes where you find
him you here on weekdays here as part of the
Doug Gottlieb Show Noon Deal three Pacific. UH. You can
find that on the I Heart Radio app wherever you
get your audio of Fox Sports Radio dot com. We
(13:53):
appreciate you hanging out UH and being part of the
show at Swollen Dome. If your your love it or
hating the deal, you want to get your one liners in,
we'll have them for you over the course of the night.
But coming up next we'll turn to the Seattle side
of things because we have news from ownership, but also
still the question of who's under center for them this fall.
(14:15):
We'll continue with that next. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays
at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Hey, welcome back in.
It's Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carman.
Jason out tonight, Dan Buyer in his stead. We're efforting
the schedule and release dates for I Want You Flex
(14:37):
Season three. If you have content, thoughts, stat pools, things
you want us to yell at each other about in
hot take nonsense. Uh, put the hashtag hot take nonsense
in at swollen home and let me know what you're envisioning.
I'm all for it. Hey, I responded to that earlier.
You know, Tory Smith went to uh Twitter to say, hey, Elvis, Uh,
(14:58):
you know, was nothing compared to Michael Jackson. And I said,
be where hot take nonsense wherever you may find. It's
not just sports radio and sports television. No, no, no,
no no. Sometimes people go off and speak about that
and speak on truths on social media. There. I told you, Uh,
the the most overrated performer in history is Elvis. This
(15:21):
from Tory Smith, go look at his stuff. It was
whack MJ walked circles around dude. H Well, in the
end they both had management that can kind of own
them and spun them into really bad habits and oh,
I don't know early demises. Listen, Elvis, Elvis has his
(15:42):
critics from where he got his style and and uh,
you know where where he became Elvis. There is no
doubt about that. But the fact of the matter is
this sounds so much like a could Bill Russell guard
shack sort of argument that's really well put, really well put.
Let's talk generations, let's let's rank them. It's like a
(16:05):
Mountain Rushmore kind of conversation. It's July. It fits so beautifully.
Forget about any technology that also maybe helped in music,
whether guys actually saying or not. Like, yeah, just aside,
go on and on a lot of similarities though if
(16:26):
you compare some of the stuff that goes on there.
But that's not what we're here for. That's that's a
podcast to be named later at Dan Byron Foxes where
you find and find me over at Swollen Dome talking
about the Baker Mayfield saga, whatever you want to call it.
It's finally done. We don't have to speculate on him
and his whereabouts now, it's just the al right, I
(16:47):
can't wait to grab some popcorn and watch every snap
that is visible between he and Sam Donald as they
battle for that top job. But what does it mean?
I mean, Seattle decided to move away. And obviously for
Pete Carroll, he had been complimentary of Drew Lock and
he he would have been the first guy drafted out
(17:08):
of out of this class. So okay, trying to hype
him up, and Drew Lock got into a little bit
of beef the US Open taking shots at him and
he responded, and so we've got that going on. But
Drew Lock, honestly, it was poor Drew Lock. He got
you know, he just got caught up in the mess
(17:29):
because the Seahawks fan had the respawned. Well you know,
he he had to. So for those that missed this,
you know, we go and we get to the fun
and exciting world of Twitter and Seahawks fan for life.
Gino Smith propagandists. We'll get to that in a second.
Uh have you replied, uh not a sport? Applying to
(17:52):
something that Sports Center put out regarding the US Open.
US Open Tennis the verified account came back with quote,
not a word says the person about to watch seventeen
games of Drew Lock at quarterback. I would rather watch
seventeen games of Drew Lock because I've seen three of
Gino Smith and as a Seahawk fan. It makes the
(18:13):
whole Baker Mayfield UH conundrum that much more interesting because
Mike the and and I give I give props to
Josina Anderson on this UH discover the NFL for a
while now with CBS Sports because a lot of people
have shot down that the Seahawks were interested in Baker Mayfield,
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and I believe that they were, but I just don't
believe that the front office was ever willing to pay
more than they have to. They that is kind of
their thing, and that's what actually makes the Jamal Adams
deal so much more crazier than it is, because it's
usually they're always trying to get the good deal or
that they're not willing to to do to overpay something.
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So that's so out of character the way that front
out off has operated. And obviously in the hey days,
as you experienced it and loved it with the Legion
of Boom, you had a lot of guys that we
talked about, chips on their shoulders, late round draft picks,
undrafted free agents, Russell in the third round, Marshawn Lynch
coming over from Buffalo. It all played together and it
(19:18):
played beautifully. And now you're going into the next phase
trying to see if you can you know, catch lightning
in a bottle for a second time. Uh, you know
with the finishing off the the little Twitter thread here,
Uh you know you had the ratio comment again by
the Geno Smith propagandists. US Open had this ratings from
(19:40):
Chris Sims that they quoted of here's my top forty quarterbacks.
Drew Lock was forty. If he just wrote back, happy
fourth to all, but especially to the intern at the
US Open with the crop laughing crying emoji, the United
States Flag of Heart, uh and twelves, which is you know,
look feed into it, wave the guy and then you
(20:01):
go back to work. And now it's Drew Lock and
Gino Smith. Gino Smith, entering his second decade in the
National Football League. Famously a couple of weeks ago, had
had some talking points about his career and where it's
been and and some pointed comments saying well, we all
know why I haven't gotten a second shot to start,
and then you know, the battles begin over that. Uh,
(20:24):
not much of it. Could be they watch game tape
and you weren't very good. Unfortunately it's the Jets, so
again you're you're kind of losing. Going back to the
Sam Donald argument, it's the same thing of all right,
decades of futility, poor drafting, poor management. Gino did have
a perfect game, uh perfect quarterback rating in a December
(20:45):
game a couple of years ago, so that was all
fun and exciting. But now that's the battle that's set
up while you're still trying to figure out what you're
doing with DK Metcalf long term. Yeah, that's and those
decisions are going to be made. I would think at
some point, um, a deal with Metcalf gets done. If
I'm the Seahawks, I would want to do it before
every receiver ends up signing their long term deal. Then
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maybe you want to have to pay us much. But
Terry McLaurin beat him, and uh so they may have
to pay a little bit more. Now. The uh, the
whole thing is is with Seattle. My my takeaway with
this is Mike, because I believe Josina Anderson. I don't
believe the others in that the Seahawks weren't interested. I
think that they were, and I think that that she was.
(21:30):
She's right about that. I think at the end, and
I mentioned the overpaying part, their question is how much
do we want to overpay when it's really and I
think this is the decision. It would be Baker Mayfield
or Drew Lock, And that's your decision. And I think
that Baker Mayfield would be the better quarterback. He's got
more on his resume. But is it was it worth
(21:50):
the Seahawks giving up anything? And that was the one
thing that I thought if Baker took away so you know,
you know, relinquished some money and Clive unpaid for some
of it, you could get him pretty cheap. And that's
all that everything that happened with Carolina. So I was
surprised that that was the deal that went down that
Seattle wasn't even willing to do that because it would
(22:12):
be down to Baker and it would be down to
Drew Lock if you were to bring all of those in,
just like it's it's probably down to uh, Matt Correll
or Baker Mayfield in my mind in Carolina, I don't
think Donald has a shot, but I could be wrong.
Even though a lot of people like him. I just
think Mike that the difference that they felt that they
had to give up wasn't worth it. And I was
surprised by that because I didn't think that that would
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be a lot. And maybe they're just gonna roll the
dice Withdrew Lock. Even though Pete Carroll is saying that
Gino Smith is your starting quarterback. I would love to
pull every Seahawk fan and just find out who they
really want to start, because there were three games with
Gino Smith last year that ended up being close games,
but it wasn't like, Man, this offense is cooking. And
at least maybe if Drew Lock can get the football
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to DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, it would be worthwhile.
But I'm just surprised I didn't take that risk. Uh,
the small risk of a conditional pick in four and
five million dollars to bring them in. Now, Seahawks chair
Jody Allen says the team's not for sale right now.
That uh and the Blazers in the holdings. UH, so
(23:16):
you've got at least the stability and no imminent upheaval there.
I have a Pete Carroll theory. It's something we've kind
of bounced around here, uh in the studio, and we'll
get to it in a moment. But first, be sure
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Mike Carmen alongside Dan Buyer Jason Off tonight. Uh So
the idea that maybe Pete wants to be in control
again and felt maybe he'd lost some of that, lost
his way with Russell Wilson the last couple of years,
the way they had to maybe orchestrate the offense, maybe
the way things had to be orchestrated, just from a
(24:44):
personnel standpoint. Whereas with Drew Lock coming out of his
time in Denver and Geno Smith, who's been in the
league again, you know, going into decade too, but been
a minute since he's been a regular starter, that he
can go back to basics of how he wants to
operate a scheme and both offensively and defensively. Uh and
(25:05):
a lot of it's gonna depend on the health of
Penny in the backfield, right, that's the big beatmen you make.
But but but just the idea that you know, for
for Pete Carroll, it's his team again, right, just like
when all those guys were first coming up, that they
had to buy into what he was selling and then
(25:26):
it kind of took on a life of its own
to great success. But now it's stripped back down. All
of those principal characters that are so beloved in Seahawks. Lord,
it's one of our great words on the show. Anymore
Dan's lore. Uh, those guys are all in retirement or
playing for other teams. So it's time for Pete Carroll
on that front office to do what they did a
(25:48):
decade ago and try to hit it again from the
ground running. I don't I I think that is a
very sound theory. And and actually I think it's a
theory that scares a lot of Seahawk Ucks fans, like
like you present that to a Seahawks fan, and I
think that they're afraid of it because I think that
the NFL is different than it was a decade ago.
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And and and I know, like you have, you know
there there are teams specifically within that division, like the
San Francisco forty Niners, who kind of go against the
grain of a lot of the NFL. And and they've
had success with it. They also have had the personnel
with it. And I don't know if the Seahawks had
some of the personnel that that they needed at the time.
(26:30):
Now they have personnel at the skill positions. And as
you mentioned, Riscod Benny Um and his health is a
is a big deal. I think there. I think you're right.
I think that there is really something to to what
you're saying, because I think Pete Carroll thinks in his
mind that, you know what, trying to satisfy two parties,
the Russell Wilson camp and the Pete Carroll camp not
(26:52):
gonna work. It's just not gonna you know, like that's
and and I think that he looks at their downfall
or their lack of six US at times last season
as him giving up too much to Russell Wilson. And
I think you can even look back at other seasons
because it was a common theme there that now if
Pete has his fingerprints over everything, it's it's almost Mike
(27:13):
and and and I apologize if this is uh kind
of what you said, but it's almost like you don't
think I can win. Not only can I win, I'm
gonna win with Geno Bleep and Smith, We're gonna do
it in my way. And if you look at the
three games that Smith played for Russell Wilson last year,
they had the overtime loss to the Steelers that was
on Sunday Night Football, They had lost an overtime in
(27:35):
a close game to the Saints, and then they won
and they beat in bad Jacksonville team. But if you
remember like that Saints game, like they just they couldn't
do anything. They were just and it was just it
was it was a bad game. It was a lot
of dump offs there. Just But I think that Pete
Carroll wants to show that we can do it my way,
and not only that, like we can do it with
(27:56):
Geno Smith. Like I there could be an argument that
they are tanking to get you know, maybe a top
quarterback in next year's draft, but I don't think that's
the case. I think that your theory of of wanting
to do it Pete's way could actually be in play. Yeah, Dan,
I think just part of it from a front office, right,
because look, I love organizational stability and continuity, but there
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is a time where what you've done just doesn't work.
And we talk about the Seahawks recent draft picks and
trying to hit on big swings, right, and it's not
you know, the the batting average to mix sports for
a second, uh is around where Cody Bellinger is. You know,
you've got your two oh five. So when we we
(28:39):
look at for Pete Carroll, it's also credit that we
talk about a lot in sports, and we'll get into
Kevin Durant and whether he's gone dark on people reaching
out and whatever. But what was one of the reasons given,
at least from a lot of folks, of why he
left the Warriors. He didn't feel like he was getting
adequate credit, that it was Draymond, it was Steph, and
(28:59):
that he was just a guy, even though he was
the finals MVP Pete Carroll. I think history his contribution
to stuff has been minimized because all those other guys
got deified along the way and canonized, lionized, And so
he wants to show, as he did at USC and
when they were first building this squad, that he still
(29:21):
has it, that the game hasn't passed him by, And
I think that's a lot of it pushing forward into
this campaign. It's funny too as well. Some people thought
that maybe he would just ditch out on the Seahawks
kind of what happened at USC. I mean, what the
rats uh leaving a sinking ship as it were with USC. Yes, yeah,
(29:42):
I just I think that he does. I mean because
because of his age, that this would be his last
go around, and with the ownership situation that you mentioned
at the top. I mean, he's practically running the team anyway,
so why would you walk away from that? No, that's
it unless he's gonna join the Big Ten Conference. He's
Dan Buyer. I'm like Carmen here in Fox Sports Radio.
That Sason Smith Show with Mike Carmen coming up next.
We always play that game of what if and how
(30:05):
much would it cost to do X? Well, we get
to do it with a food item found in a wall.
What Yeah, we'll tell you about it next you're on Fox.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio
Jason Smith Show with Mike Armen. Dan Buyer in for
(30:25):
Jason Smith tonight. A little later on tonight, we'll talk
about the top of your fantasy drafts. You know, I
have a mock draft that's are one of the experts draft,
So I guess it's not mock. It's real. Uh, the
Fantasy analysis draft that will start on the eleventh day,
the real deal, Holy Field. It begins. It's one of
those long, slow drafts that as you make your pick
(30:47):
you've got to write the analysis of why you chose
them without without pushing down McCaffrey. Are you gonna be
like because I had to is that there's well, I
got the draft order. I'm in the sixth hole that
that could very well happen because he is a guy
that has been on my list. I did a podcast
(31:07):
with one of our listeners and yesterday and he asked
that I left today obviously before the trade. I'm like,
I want no shares of Christian McCaffrey. And we went
through it all and whatever else, and I looked at
it and I get the notice and went through my email.
It's like, yeah, I've got the six slot. He's gonna
be staring me at the face in me although you
(31:29):
know what, I've seen a lot of folks that still
have him as their number one, which I think is ambitious.
On we talked about that last Yeah, you're a yeah,
it is well, it all bleds together, Dan, but it
is just curious and obviously now you know, tongues are
wagging with the news of the deal and what that means.
But this is a story that I saw a little
(31:49):
earlier in the week and and I thought you and
I were uniquely positioned to talk about this tonight. And obviously, uh,
Justin and Brian and al if you want to get
in on this, uh, please please do a mall In Delaware,
resident Jonathan Pruett put the photo up, but in Wilmington's
(32:10):
Concord Mall it was sealed off. You had this issue
and you had a Burger King restaurant that they were
able to pull out. A vintage is what they're calling it,
because everybody's gotta be funny about it. Uh, mab Burger
that was in the wall. So they were operational until
(32:30):
two thousand nine. And it still has kind of the
eighties nineties vibes in it. They say to the parquet floor,
it's kind of just been frozen in time. And now
that they're sealing it all, unsealing it and trying to,
you know, push and do some construction and refurbish things. Uh,
they found a Burger in the wall, so it's got
(32:53):
to be from at least two thousand nine. What would
it take as then someone slapping on dollars like the
old Klondike bar ads or or the million dollar man
ted d base to get you the wolf down? Said
Burger from the wall. Uh listen, we we did the
tops chewing gum from the late eighties on the podcast.
(33:18):
This is a different story. Um, you're not getting me
to do this, but I if I do have something
to say though about this place. So I don't want
to leave the hamburger hanging because I am curious on
if if the other guys would even touch it. There.
There is no price that I would touch it. But
there's something I want to say about this about this restaurant.
(33:38):
Now we know we have seen perfect preservation of McDonald's
hamburgers for science experiments, and obviously supersize me had some
thoughts on the preservatives and everything else in there. Frostberg,
you in oh hell no, okay? Uh? Tie shirt started
to eat meat again so that we can actually ask
him this question. A one, it's well aged. Well, that's it,
(34:03):
it's aged beef. I don't know, man, it's still a
little fishy to me. I don't know if I could
do it. It was actually mean Dave Buyer of course,
the master und tons of fun. That's what I try
to get Dan family, you over there, what do you
think you in on this? You out? What? What's what's
(34:24):
the cost the cost is somebody's got to empty out
my stomach. I'm gonna go ten million, ten million dollars
because think about this guy's a lot. This ingested could
cause all sorts of problems healthwise. Well, I mean, look,
his best DOS was outlawed long before two thousand nine,
(34:45):
so they would have had to in make upgrades. So
I can at least I think reasonably rule that out
as a possible contaminant to take me down two million
for the medical bills. Right, well, it goes to the
lawyers for process seeing it. Thank you very much. Uh Dan,
what's your thought on this? Okay? This, this Burger King
is so fallen behind everyone else. I used to be
(35:08):
a huge Burger King fan. I always felt like it
was second or third behind McDonald's and depending hard ease
Carl's Junior wherever you were. But I was like Burger
King was second or third. Now they're like ten like
nobody nobody's like I want to go to Burger King anymore.
They need to change to this retro style that they found.
Like Pizza Hut tries to fool everybody because their pizza
(35:28):
is old. They try to make it seem like it's
the old school pizza hut that everybody fell in love
with when they were a kid. But the new taste
is just it's not the same. If you're Burger King,
I would go all in, Mike, I would open that.
I would just you know, sweep everything up, wipe off
the tables, open this bad boy up. Burger King should
go full retro nineteen eighties to try to bring everybody
(35:49):
back el Since they have popped up in stranger things
set in the eighties, why not capitalize on that, go
back to the nostalgia, because let's facing we're also got
so any different chicken tenders, places that have totally and
chicken sandwich places that have dominated the burger market. What
else you got to lose? Burger King? You know it's
it madness, I tell you madness. He's damn buyer in
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