July 19, 2022 • 35 mins
Jason welcomes Harmon back from his vacation around the world, Juan Soto big upcoming contract will play out just like Bryce Harper, and Soto wins the Home Run Derby!
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome inside. Happy Monday.
Almost did have a new co host on the show
because luckily the man to my left made his way
back after a week of depravity and blacking out, not
understanding places he slept. Mike Harmon returns, like the product,
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I don't know that any of that's true this time around. No,
not too much depravity. I mean I went to a
couple of ball games. I was on the right side
of both of them. Cumes, lost white sox one dude
talks that I went through was not great. I could
feel the flask in between when when you would message
me on Twitter, I could feel the alcohol pouring through
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that bad. I came back a little leaner and meaner.
I did a lot of walking in the well, very
humid Chicago weather, rode around on the trains, had a
lot of fun, walked walked, like I said, a ton,
met a lot of fun and interesting people along the way.
I spent a lot of quality time with my brothers.
I got back here in town early Thursday morning, as
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in like twelve thirty am, and then had a couple
of days off. Went and visited our buddies down in
San Diego or Burger and Hartman for a minute, watched
the soccer um scrimmage. Were able to watch it now,
don't I went and watched uh one live and in
living color. Uh daughter back at back at work already, right,
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you know, you win a title and then two weeks
later you're back on the pitch. So yeah, all good things.
Good to be back. And no, I did not drink
that much. Really, I know it's probably disappointing to you.
I don't know what do you think the over under
round is on how much I consumed when I was
gone over under like number of days. I felt that
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you were altered, I would say, well, I mean define alter.
I mean that's that's really a wide berth. Yeah, I
would uh, I would say five. I would say five. No,
if you're talking to you can't talk. If you're talking,
I don't know where you are, right. No point is
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if you're talking truly, probably you think you're a Chmiskey
park right now. Probably that'd be great back when Harry
was roaming. Hey, I got a question for you that
what happens if the two time home run champion Pete Alonzo?
What if that was as good as it gets for him?
Hang on? Hang on? Okay, okay, well so so so
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now you do know where you are, because now you're
back and you're you're talking nonsense. Hey, First of all,
let pour one out for Pete Alonso and the run
he had two time home run derby champion at the
All Stars. Uh will not move on after losing in
the most previous round. It looks like he just, I
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don't know, maybe too many dead lifts in between rounds
a question meditation. Did he actually get in a bad
space there right? Did he go into a nightmare on
Elm Street or it kind of transferred the video of
him weightlifting in between rounds. I don't know the way
I think that that had to be. It was gonna
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go one of two ways. It either creates a legend
or it tears you down. Well, at this point, I
think he makes it look like, all right, that was
that was a lot for show, and you gave me
nothing in the in the second round there, Yeah, I
think maybe a little list deadlifts for Alonso. Look and
and it was. It was a great round. It was
a great competition. I mean, look, Alonso wins um and
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and we watched Rodriguez hit thirty one to beat Peter Lawns. Oh.
And you know it's always fun hearing Berman sit there
for a thousand times a road going back back back, back,
back back back. There should be an a backpack. This
is why my bourbon impression is always and I've said
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back back back for six hours hard to talk. This
is week sixteen of NFL Prime Time and where really
the holidays are here, the weather is colder, my voice
is not as good. I've just said back back back back,
get back back back. So, d J, this is why
there will be no three pete for Alonso in the
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home run derby TJ. So that's where I hold my
whole Burman impression comes because you watch him tonight. It's
the one night that ESPN lets him on on on
camera anymore. Yes, the home run derby, Fine, we'll let
you do it. You never see him anymore. He's never
He's never like, hey, this one day, we'll let you.
It's like New York Jets fans. They show up one
day here NFL Draft day one, so they can show
up and do whatever that the commissioner the one day
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they let Bourmon out. Now at ESPN, they go, hey,
put him on. He was gonna do the home run,
because really, do somebody else want to sit there and
go back, back, back back now, So one day they
let him out. He actually he's not doing the TV call,
is he. I was listening to him, and I was
just towing a way in no way. Yeah, I thought
it was boog back back, back back, or maybe that
was just me. I think that was just getting your head.
He was on set because there was the photo that
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was going around that made him look like in retirement
he'd become a giant. Yeah that maybe he had doubled
in size. Yes, maybe he was a big guy. What
was he sixtuster, He's a big dude. Well, that's what
everybody was asking. In the way that that photo was cropped,
he had two guys to the right, and then you
had a partial persons like we can't we can't get
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everybody in frame. Not not as big as he's, not
as big as as he was, like man eating him.
I had the eater of worlds. So the home run
derby still going. We got Outbert pool Holes coming up,
and maybe he's you know, hitting balls that maybe they're
little bit lighter, fly a little bit more than anybody else.
There's a lot of questions about the short's exciting. But look,
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while the home run derby is going on, I want
to say I think I can sue and make us
a lot of money because it was right after the
two thousand two All Star Game ended, in a time
when both sides ran out of pictures, and I still
vividly remember Bud Seeley gone on television knowing the camera
is on him with his hands spread out wide, like
what do you want me to do? There's nothing else, commission,
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don't blame me. And I was here first time around
Fox Sports Radio. We were on the air right after
it happening, and I said, how do you not have
a home run derby decide the game? Right? This is
a twenty year old idea that I had right twenty
year old idea got any bit of payment plus? Twenty
years ago, I had this idea, and what do we
find out today? If the All Star Game tomorrow night
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is tied after nine innings, there's going to be a
home run derby to decided twenty years ago. I had
this idea of my Carmen twenty years ago. Twenty years ago,
did you put it in writing and send it to
the office of the Commissioner. Look, there was no such
thing as twitter back then, because as I'm as, we're
all learning here and for different reasons in the world.
When you say something, it's a lot different than when
you actually tweeted, So there's different things on that. Twenty
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years ago. I had this, like twenty years ago, I said,
let's have a home run derby. Let's do that for
the second half of the season. You know, runner, Let's
have a home run derby after nine innings. Sam, right,
here's your batting practice picture. He rolls out. You pick
three guys, We got three guys, let's go, or do
it like the old home run derby game of all
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those years ago. Do you ever watch those old reruns? Yeah,
here's Johnny bench up against this should have been from
the fifties. Sure, so you would have, you know, Hank
Aaron against Ernie Banks, Hank Aaron against Willie Mays. Hey,
here's Mickey Manolin, and they'd have interviews every half inning
all the other guy was hitting. You got three out
and you went right back to back out and it
was your turn again. Le It was brilliant. Let's do that.
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fixing stuff, right, and we're in that kind of fun
mood tonight. Well, as long as we say correcting if out,
Fixing stuffs can sometimes have a nefarious if if Albert
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winds up winning the home run, if he winds up
winning the home run derby, people are gonna say, oh,
it's fixed. You know what else people are gonna say
it's fixed is if we wind up with a tie
game after nine innings tomorrow night. Yes, hey, we got
a home run Derby. Hey, everybody likes home runs. Hey,
let's let's do this. This is gonna be awesome. Yeah, okay,
I think I think I think people walk around go boy.
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First year they decided to do a home run. Derby
decided and we got a home run to that's outstanding.
Liam Hendricks comes in and he was told to take
a dive. It's like, why you have to groove one?
We need this game tied, you know, you know what,
you know a funny story. I was actually on the
way and I was talking to Michael Fabiano, NFL Network,
you know, and and now Sports Illustrated Fantasy grew and
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we were talking about this about you know, I'm sure
to be fixed that they wanted when tomorrow night, and
he goes, yeah, it's like people would have thought the
NFL was fixed last year. Remember all week long was
if the Chargers and Raiders tie in the last game
of the regular season, then we get all kinds of
great right charges And we almost had almost It's like,
how close do you think things aren't really to being
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on the up and up? Sometimes dirty Raiders, I tell
you it's it's a terrible thing. But you know, we
we talked about particularly in the NFL, and if you
extrapolate out to gambling and participating in any type of
sports wagering or whatever else you're betting on in your life.
I mean, the margin for errors is very low. Uh.
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When you know we we're talking about nf FELL games,
how many are decided by one possession? Right? Go back
and look at the Minnesota Vikings a year ago. They
were top what top ten offense, middling lower third defense,
and they lost a lot of games in the final
four minutes. And that's one of the things that comes
out about Zimmer versus Cousins, which will get into as
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the show goes on. But it's just that idea of
all right, we're we're down inside those final possessions. Right.
You could be a genius. You you mentioned Fabioto. He
knows this as well as you and I do. For
fantasy purposes, I could make the right call all day
long on a player I called a bus for the week.
You know what has to happen. One slip by a cornerback,
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one slip of a would be tackler, and all of
a sudden, it's eight yards and a touchdown, and that
twenty seven yard sixteen Carrey days. Suddenly he's over the
score and now I'm an idiot. Right, That's the way
it works until the time you turn into an idiot.
But it's the same thing with betting. It's like, all right,
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I got this is good as your own. No, that's
with the relationships too. You were smart and I liked
you know what happened? Then you turn into an idiot. Okay.
Usually you get a little longer run, unless it's something catastrophic.
Oh yeah, yeah, it has to be really bad, like
there you have to get you'll get a warning or hey,
we gotta talk about this. But if I mean the
yellow card comes out, sometimes you go right to a
red though that's a that's a red. That's that that's
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a red. There's no question, that's an absolute red. Sometimes
I go there's a few times I remember going right
to red, going right to red in the situation, that's
straight to red. Okay, fourth of July. This is this
is before I started dating Pam. I dated this girl
Shannon for a long time in college and out of college.
I think we've known you long enough that that timeline
had to be there. On you're gonna be answering some
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other questions girls, so seven shut up. So we were
dating and it was like we tried to make it
work for like two years. Like we're on and off
dating for just like the longest time. And I had
moved to New York City and she was in Syracuse,
says right after college was over, and I was gonna
work in New York for the summer and then see
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what happens. So at the time, you know, we wouldn't,
haven't you know, I was, you know, we were doing
the long distance thing and seeing how it goes. And
so fourth of July was her birthday, and so I go,
I decided, you know, I'm gonna do I'm a surpriser
for a birthday. So I take the train up from
from New York City and to Syracuse. Max. I'm gonna
see my other friends too, but I'm excited, a surprised
for a birthday and uh. And so I get Syracuse
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and I surprise her and she's like, oh my god.
But I could tell something's up a little bit, and
I go, so I gotta surprise you, like whatever you
want to do. I know you said this, yes okay,
and I said, watch yes. Well I sort of made
plans with the guy I started dating a couple of
weeks ago, and I said, oh, red card, red card
right away, right, I said, okay, that's it. And here's
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the thing. She she after we after I said okay,
that's it, we're done, and she calls me back like
I don't know, like an hour later, going I moved
stuff around so we can do stuff. I moved stuff around.
I go, no, you obviously you like somebody else. Now
obvious this is not working. Okay, I've been gone for
a month and you started dating somebody, So we're done, right,
we're done. And she was, no, you don't. You don't
understand what I moved around to do this. I go,
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you didn't want me up here? What are you talking about?
And that was it, and that it was all. I
went right to the red card right there. The door
didn't was behind the curtain. Hey who are you? Um
um Shannon him, Yeah, but uh, well what's going on?
He lights a cigarette light, lights the match on his way.
Are you wearing her robe? You want to come in
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hang out? I mean she's in the shower, she'll be
out to side, you know. I mean, now, there was
none of that. It was just I was like, okay,
that was because all in all, in my head, I'm
going I sat on the train all the way up
here for five and a half hours. My walkman, I've
had a walkman. My walkman ran out of batteries and
I finished. My buddy was but he didn't have rey
chargeable batteries because this was the nineties. It was the nineties. Yeah, sorry,
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I gotta explain to millenials what a walkman is. A
walkman was a device you would use to listen to
music that ran on batteries. When the batteries ran out,
unless you had new batteries, you had to wait until
you got new batteries to be able to listen to music.
So that was it. That was That was like right
to a red card, that was it. That was red.
Think going forward, you should just get yellow and red
cards with you. Just just put put in my pockets,
Like there's yellow, there's a red RD at a bar
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and one of your friends says, something wrong is that
I'm done with you? My dad would love to do that,
like going to just go in to grocery stores. If
someone gives them problem red card, you're getting red. You're
getting red. I think that would I think if he
documented that for a week or two, it really could
become something like you know, that might come rage overall
in this country if you have people how I'm gonna
give you a yellow or a red card because then
you feel like, all right, I got it out. I
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was mad because you were so slow and checking me out,
or you know the uh whatever happened you was this
return took too long. I'm giving you a yellow or
I go right to red. At least I get the
satisfaction of I give you a yellow or red card
and then you got to go to the belt to
do it, and that they cause other problems I think
going from my yellow card, coach for my yellow card, right,
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rewards terms do apply. So we are getting close to
the championship here for the home run derby, No mat
you No MAT's okay. Bets are in first place and
Pete Alonzo leads the National League and and all of
base perm RB I it's okay. Does he have a
record for dead lifting? Because he's not winning a home
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run derby, it doesn't matter. Maybe he has a dead
lift record now, maybe they should add that to All
Star Monday Night deadlifting on camera, Pete Alonzo is your
record hot dog eating contest on camera? It will be
Julio Rodriguez and Juan Soto for all the marbles. Juan Soto.
I don't believe he should be allowed to wear a
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Washington National's jersey because he's probably gonna get traded at
some point. I mean, I think that's wrong. He should
have to wear one of those neutral jerseys or where
the jersey of the team you want to get traded to.
Suddenly he comes out in the Dodgers jersey, comes out
in the Mets jersey. Yeah, I'm ready to hit, ready
to go, ready to go well, or a jersey of
his own design, yea branding team Bad Bunny could design
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a jersey for him because Bad Bunny's out with the
trophy right now, showing everybody why did I get a
run this week? He is bad Money's get bad Bad
Bunny and Brian krast that Bunny they're getting. But I
mean tell him, tell me you didn't see a better
tag team this weekend than Cranston and j K. Simmons. Yeah,
that was pretty rocking those big beards and look menacing.
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That was pretty good. I got got a like that
he walked up to the breaking bad. I like that.
I like that he he couldn't kick any dirt on
the up when he tried to kick the dirt was
too well. Uh so Sono and Rodriguez for the home
run Derby Championship, getting ready to start the final round
right now. But all the attention and this is some
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kind of story because when this when this broke. Look,
you and I both love baseball, and and you know
you don't get a lot of breakdown of stories, baseball
stories and a lot of shows because a lot of
shows are like baseball on them. But Juan Soto now
said today he is uncomfortable amid all the trade talk
going on right now as the Nationals have said they
will listen because he turned down a twenty nine million
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dollar a year a contract extension worth four d and
forty million dollars. Soto says, look, it's out of my hands.
It's disappointing or it's frustrating, but he's gonna go out
and play. And this was a real shock because a
month ago from the Nationals it was we're not trading
Juan Soto. It's a non starter. We're not trading him.
But anytime Scott Boris is your agent, it's never gonna
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be easy. And you should know that when Scott Boris
is your agent. As a team, this is not going
to go how you think it is. This is never
going to go. I want to be here, I want
to play here the rest of my career. We're ready
to give you a lot of money and it works out.
It just doesn't. It's no, no, let's let's wait and
let's try to get other teams interested and let's move
on and then things get crazy. This is not anything
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that's bad because Scott Boris is doing for his client
what he's supposed to. Like, I want to get you
the most money. But there's some agents who understand if
a client says, hey, I really want to be here
the rest of my career, and this is the money
that I vault, did this and this and this, and Okay,
that's more important for you. Scott Boris is simply about
what's the best deal. What's the best deal for me?
Because this is for me, but it also is the
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best deal for Juan Soto. And I can't say first thing.
I can't say. I can't be upset that he turned
this deal down because in the end, it's twenty nine
million a year and the best players, the Lindor's and
Bryce Harper getting over thirty million a year, and Max
Scherr's is getting forty three million a year, albeit for
three years. So while the Nationals have said, well, we'll
give your shoes or money. You want forty three million
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for the next three years, we'll do that for you,
but that's not what he wants. He wants forty three,
forty five, probably fifty million dollars a year for the
next ten years. I guarantee you he's got that pie
in the sky ten years, five hundred million. That's the
deal he wants for Juan Soto, right, Because he was
the guy who brokered the two fifty million dollar deal
for Alex Rodriguez fifteen years ago. Now it's things of
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things have changed. This is the new A rod who's
on the market, A guy in his mid twenties, has
already won a World Series and an All Star three times,
one of the great talents in the game. Yeah, you know,
he's holding out for ten years and five hundred million dollars.
Whether he gets it or gets close to it, Okay,
but that's his pie in the sky, and you know
that is that's it with Scott Bors. So I can't
say I'm upset with him because his Juan Soto undervalued
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at twenty nine million year. Yeah. Probably this is just
the way it is, right, I mean, oh, I can't
believe I can turn down twenty nine million dollars year
to do something or forty. Well, you can when you
can get more and somebody's gonna give you more than that,
because he is worth more than that, because what his
talent value is and we're Major League Baseball is at
Juan Soto is worth more than twenty nine million dollars
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a year. So yeah, he's gonna wind up getting more money.
I would have said no as well, so just the
first offer that's come out that this is what we
want to pay you, and you know, let's see how
things go. Let's see what happens. And now the Nationals
are thrown a wrench into things by saying, hey, we'll
listen to offers for you right now, so I'll call
if you want one. Soto. I mean, you look at
his age, accomplishments to date, and whatever you want to
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say about his stats for for two as we sit
here at the All Star break, that's fine, hitting to
fifty with his forty three rb I and and people
wringing their hands saying, well, I mean, look at what
you're doing this year. You should have bought in. It's like, well, no, man,
look what my trout got in right, thirty six million
a year. He's thirty one. Soto still has two years
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before three agency when he will be twenty six. So
the math right, like the game is growing, right, we
know that from a media right standpoint, it's growing. The
cap continues to go up before you get into the
luxury part of the business. And so when Scott Boris
is your agent, they're gonna come in with nine thousand
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pages of comps and a recognition of where the marketplace is.
And you see these other deals. You mentioned Harper's deal,
you mentioned Scherzer's deal and how that was structured. That certainly,
if you're a hitter and you're looking to sign on
for a decade, you're going top dollar. It's it's like
the quarterback market, right, if you're the next one up.
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It may not seem right, but it's reality to say, hey,
take a seven to nine million dollar a year discount
at today's prices. Forget about where the market is going.
Not to mention, inflation has got us at ten percent
right now this year. Okay, economic inflation, Let's see if
we can get more if it goes back. But like legitimately,
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if you're just just compared to trouts, you're gonna say,
all right, seven million dollars less for a guy eight
years younger and already these accomplishments, it doesn't work, Like
the math fails. Yeah, give us a hometown discount. Really,
why you you got rid of all these other pieces
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that we had, right, I just watch you jettison all
these guys. Why why would I want to bank in
and hitch my post to you guys for the next
decade plus. Now here's how this is gonna end, all right,
because the one, this one Soto story is just fascinating
that all of a sudden, the Nationals decided, Yep, we'll listen,
because if you don't want this kind of money, we're
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not going to give you the real silly, crazy money
when we're not going to contend for a what're them
one last? Because they don't I don't want to be
the bad guys. They don't want to be, They're gonna
give them. They're gonna give a final offer that they
know Scott Boris and Juan Soto is going to say
no to. But they're not going to give him all
that kind of money when they're not close to contending.
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Why are you gonna pay one so too all this
kind of money when you are so you are ten
or twelve players away from contentner, so you're not gonna
do it. You're gonna try to rebuild your farm system
and you're gonna try to get players and do all
these different things. So here's how Juan Soto is gonna
play out. It's gonna play out exactly like Bryce Harper.
Because when Bryce Harper was gonna leave the Nationals. Same thing.
It was, Oh, who doesn't want Bryce Harper? Here he
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is mid twenties, he's he's the most talented player in
the league. Look at what he does, most dangerous hitter,
Bryce Harper. And what happened? How many teams were interested
in Bryce Harper? Not many because the price tag was
just way too much. And how many teams were interested
in Bryce Harper at the end A couple, not this
whole MLB. Hey, all the rich teams want Bryce Harper.
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Mets weren't in it, Yankees weren't in it. All, the
Dodgers weren't in it. Oh yeah, there there they were
trying to count their Ponzi scheme money and see what
they had left. They're doing that but to evacuated, trying
to figure out what was laughing? But how many teams
were in it on Bryce Harper? Nobody? Right? It came
down to the end, it was it's really gonna be
the Phillies like, oh, he's gonna take our thirty million
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dollar year offer? Who Okay. It was kind of disappointing
because teams realize to put that kind of money in
on a player is really difficult, and they watch the Phillies.
They have not won with Bryce Harper, and I guarantee
you if the Phillies could do it over again, they
would not give Bryce Harper that money. So Juan Soto
is different. He's younger, he's this, But Juan Soto is
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also a guy you have to give up a lot
of prospects for. So you have to give up a
lot of prospects for him, and then you're gonna have
to sign him in a couple of years, because that's
gonna be the thing. You're not gonna give up four
of your top prospects and whatever players the Nationals want
to let him walk into and a half years, you're
gonna see the actual market for Juan Soto be way smaller.
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It's gonna be like a Bryce Harper market. There will
be a couple of teams that have the resources that
would love to get Juan Soto, but it's not gonna
be a lot this whole storyline of look how many
did here's the top seven team. No, there's not gonna
be seven teams in it for once, Settle. There will
be one or two teams in it, and it's gonna
play out over a long period of time. No, one's
gonna go No, one's gonna go nuts with making an
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offer now, because a team that could be in it,
like let's say the Padres, they have a really good
young core. They want to see how this year goes.
Hey do we have enough this and they played all
this year exactly, Let's see what happens. Let's watch this playout.
He's one, Sodo is not gonna get traded this year.
This will be a storyline that sort of fades and
it will get hotter again the closer he gets to
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the end of his deal, when he's up, when he's
doing new money, and that's what that's when he wind
up getting traded. But for now, it's going to be
a petering out storyline and eventually what or two teams
will be interested and will be a team like the Padres.
It has a bunch of prospects that can say, all right,
it didn't work out this year. We've had two years
with this, with this nucleus, and we haven't had it.
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So here you go, Washington, here's to really good players,
everyday players. Here's a picture, and here's one of our
big prospects. And you give us one. So toa we
give one so to a lot of money. So that's
kind of where the reality is for Soto is that
it's gonna be a team that has this, but it's
not gonna be for a while, and there's only gonna
be a couple of teams interested. This is not gonna
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be one of those league wide, Hey, Lebron James taking
meetings for every team that wants them. This is not
the case. How Bryce Harper's free agency pursuit went is
how sotos is going to go. And it will be
even slower because teams say, not only do we have
to give up, we have to pay him and giving
this money. At some point, we got to give up
all kinds of prospects. And it's not like we're gonna
trade prospects, but we gotta sign them. That's not part
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of the deal because you have two and a half
years to go on that. So I I fail to
see how any team is gonna jump to the front
and say this is what we want to do, even
a team like the Mets right that would love to
get one. So Mets made a lot of moves right
there in first place by three games in the NL East. Uh,
things are pretty good. De Grama is coming back, Sures
is already back. Maybe this is the team they win
with so so many teams that you think would want
(27:00):
to do this, would want to play out this year
as well, to say, let's see how things go before
we upset the apple cart for Juan Soto, Well, just
the pure economics of it make it a a non
starter for so many teams in Major League Baseball. I mean,
I've already seen him photoshopped into every style of Dodgers
jersey that there is. I mean, there's no question about that. Uh.
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You look at teams that normally spend some money. I mean,
look the Angels, if they hadn't signed Anthony ren don
you know away from the Nationals that maybe maybe you
know that this would have been the guy they could
have gone after, and and now you'd have a six
man tag team with Otani and Mike Trout. But instead, well,
you've got a really bad contract on the books for
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you right now as a guy that hasn't been able
to see the field. But there's a few teams right
You're looking at the New York squads, You're looking at
maybe San Diego, but they're already committed to a lot
of money and how much do they want to push
over the top? Right? I mean that that's it. They
went all in with a ton of moves these last
couple of years, So that kind of gets you back
to the Dodgers, the kind of get you back to
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the New York squads. And then you're always wondering if
if suddenly they find a giant box of cash in Boston,
giant box of cash. Well, hey, once upon a time
they spent a lot, and then the clubs have divested
and there are nothing at this point, and maybe the
Ricketts decided to push all in because I know the
guy on the other side of town won't be sure
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Juan Soto is your home run derby champion nineteen to
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eighteen in the final round, he is your winner, and
maybe of all the things I like to see the
most of Mike Carmen, I didn't mind Pete Alonso losing
because Starling Marte, Mets right fielder was no more than
two feet from Juan Soto the entire time, laughing at
everything he said, hyping him up, excited. He's trying to
get Juan Soto to the Mets trade. Yeah, that's awesome. Oh,
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this is like when you're out and you meet somebody
that you really like and you just laugh at everything
they say, and you're you're hanging on their every word
because you want them to know you really like them,
and hey, let's get together. This is starling Marte. Every
every time I look up, Marte is a foot and
a half from one Soto. Hey, yeah, that's looking at
we're contending we're in first place. Come here. He's a
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big recruiter. Yeah. I mean on the Ale side, you
had vlad Guerrero going over to Rodriguez whenever he could,
uh and you know kinship there, but certainly Marte was
first in the frame. About other teammates, coaches, your actual
picture who served up those nineteen over balls. I still
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want to know what happened to the bat though, because
he hit the final home run. It went pretty high
in the sky and I did not see where it landed. Yeah,
I'm assuming it's okay, the bat or the or anybody
and anybody that might have uh well taken one of
the don't I think it's I think I think everybody
we would have stown. I think if that happened now,
I mean maybe' well, maybe it's they would turn a
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bar stool or TMZ. They would have screen experience is
going on here for all the sporting events. I mean,
if if it really do you know what happened, it
would have been Marte getting hit in the head and
it would have been always out for the next three
months now because he got hit with a bat. That
would be the Mets luck right there about that. And
I know he's okay because I saw him congratulating one
Soto afterwards over there, jumping up and down like the
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guy at home sayed after a walkoff Homer. Oh yeah, no.
This is this is when when somebody says I won
the lottery, and every all the family members around him,
yeah you did, and Grandma you did a grandma yeah yeah, yeah,
look at this. Yeah, I'm never I'm not leaving your
side for the rest of your life because I want money.
That's Sterling Marte. Man. I don't think you normally say that.
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They told that. You know, Steve Coo had called Sterling
Marte and said, you have coffee because coffees for closers.
You go close that deal with one Soto's not not
at all And that's not tampering. How is that? That's
not really. I mean it is, but it's not. All
he's doing is congratulating him on. By the way, that
had to me remains the dumbest rule in all of sports. Yeah,
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these guys can't text each other, call each other whatever.
Players can do whatever they want. But if you're an
executive and you say wonderful things about appending free agent
or trade target, no no, no, that's all bad and
wrong and evil. But now players, hey, I would totally
have Marte trying to infiltrate Juan Soto's camp and whatever
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dinners and celebrations he's got going on here in Los Angeles.
They're like, hey, we got dinner for six. No, no,
we need a seventh. Oh yeah, Marte is coming again.
He's just walking around going, yeah, Mets, Mets, Mets, met Mets, Mats, Mets,
Mats's Metts, Mets, Mets, Mats, Mats, Mats met met Mett
met on, you want to do a Jersey trade. Let
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me see how this looks at And you're right. Marte
shows up to dinner addresses Mr. Mett. No, it's me,
it's darling. She wants I'll take my hat off. No,
don't do it. The kids, the kids. No, it's me,
trust me, it's stalling. You're gonna come to us, right,
You'll love it here. Then it's awesome New York has
made for you. What should be worse if it was
Marte with the Mr Mett hat on, head on and
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he took the head off in a public place where
you can't do that. You can't do that, or the
former Mr Mett flipping people on. No, no, no, you can't.
That's like, that's like, that's like Michael Myers trying to
take his mask. It just doesn't work. The mass doesn't
come off, the mask stays on, or walking around certain
theme parks with the heads off and again smoking. I
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can't believe that Mickey mounserette put that hat back on
and throw that cigarette away. But I'm just vaping. Mickey
Mouse doesn't vape. Hey, yeah, I'm Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Dun't
dunt dune dune done that? Yeah? Yeah that song? Hey
yeah yeah yeah inside right and yes, yes, I know
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show that was yes, Goofy, Yes, we're friends. Goofy and
I hang out all the time. Yes, I know, I know. Yes,
that's a don't don't Dad's nights. Get hold the thing
to the hole in his throat. Since about twenty years ago,
my dad had a track and has the buzzer vibrator
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for the vocal court. I can speak to that. Hey everybody,
I mean hey everybody, so sorry about that. Sorry, kids,
you have those commercials disturbed me. When the guy starts singing,
that's the that's not making that's not even no, it's
not even closeting. You are completely on the other side
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of it. That's the same thing. No, it's not. They're
in trouble for a whole other reason. Who tie shirts
in trouble? No, the whole sesame This is not even Elmo,
that's you're You're in Sesame Street. We're in Mickey Mouse.
It's not the Sesame Street to the left. It's not
the same. Tell me how to get Yeah, I can
tell you how to get the sunny day se been
the clouds away. I'll tell you how to get, how
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to get how to get drive the boat Chief. We
will have that big story out of the NFL and
more coming up next. One Soto Future, New York met
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome inside. Happy Monday.
Almost did have a new co host on the show
because luckily the man to my left made his way
back after a week of depravity and blacking out, not
understanding places he slept. Mike Harmon returns, like the product,
(00:48):
I don't know that any of that's true this time around. No,
not too much depravity. I mean I went to a
couple of ball games. I was on the right side
of both of them. Cumes, lost white sox one dude
talks that I went through was not great. I could
feel the flask in between when when you would message
me on Twitter, I could feel the alcohol pouring through
(01:10):
that bad. I came back a little leaner and meaner.
I did a lot of walking in the well, very
humid Chicago weather, rode around on the trains, had a
lot of fun, walked walked, like I said, a ton,
met a lot of fun and interesting people along the way.
I spent a lot of quality time with my brothers.
I got back here in town early Thursday morning, as
(01:30):
in like twelve thirty am, and then had a couple
of days off. Went and visited our buddies down in
San Diego or Burger and Hartman for a minute, watched
the soccer um scrimmage. Were able to watch it now,
don't I went and watched uh one live and in
living color. Uh daughter back at back at work already, right,
(01:51):
you know, you win a title and then two weeks
later you're back on the pitch. So yeah, all good things.
Good to be back. And no, I did not drink
that much. Really, I know it's probably disappointing to you.
I don't know what do you think the over under
round is on how much I consumed when I was
gone over under like number of days. I felt that
(02:12):
you were altered, I would say, well, I mean define alter.
I mean that's that's really a wide berth. Yeah, I
would uh, I would say five. I would say five. No,
if you're talking to you can't talk. If you're talking,
I don't know where you are, right. No point is
(02:33):
if you're talking truly, probably you think you're a Chmiskey
park right now. Probably that'd be great back when Harry
was roaming. Hey, I got a question for you that
what happens if the two time home run champion Pete Alonzo?
What if that was as good as it gets for him?
Hang on? Hang on? Okay, okay, well so so so
(02:54):
now you do know where you are, because now you're
back and you're you're talking nonsense. Hey, First of all,
let pour one out for Pete Alonso and the run
he had two time home run derby champion at the
All Stars. Uh will not move on after losing in
the most previous round. It looks like he just, I
(03:14):
don't know, maybe too many dead lifts in between rounds
a question meditation. Did he actually get in a bad
space there right? Did he go into a nightmare on
Elm Street or it kind of transferred the video of
him weightlifting in between rounds. I don't know the way
I think that that had to be. It was gonna
(03:34):
go one of two ways. It either creates a legend
or it tears you down. Well, at this point, I
think he makes it look like, all right, that was
that was a lot for show, and you gave me
nothing in the in the second round there, Yeah, I
think maybe a little list deadlifts for Alonso. Look and
and it was. It was a great round. It was
a great competition. I mean, look, Alonso wins um and
(03:55):
and we watched Rodriguez hit thirty one to beat Peter Lawns. Oh.
And you know it's always fun hearing Berman sit there
for a thousand times a road going back back back, back,
back back back. There should be an a backpack. This
is why my bourbon impression is always and I've said
(04:17):
back back back for six hours hard to talk. This
is week sixteen of NFL Prime Time and where really
the holidays are here, the weather is colder, my voice
is not as good. I've just said back back back back,
get back back back. So, d J, this is why
there will be no three pete for Alonso in the
(04:40):
home run derby TJ. So that's where I hold my
whole Burman impression comes because you watch him tonight. It's
the one night that ESPN lets him on on on
camera anymore. Yes, the home run derby, Fine, we'll let
you do it. You never see him anymore. He's never
He's never like, hey, this one day, we'll let you.
It's like New York Jets fans. They show up one
day here NFL Draft day one, so they can show
up and do whatever that the commissioner the one day
(05:04):
they let Bourmon out. Now at ESPN, they go, hey,
put him on. He was gonna do the home run,
because really, do somebody else want to sit there and
go back, back, back back now, So one day they
let him out. He actually he's not doing the TV call,
is he. I was listening to him, and I was
just towing a way in no way. Yeah, I thought
it was boog back back, back back, or maybe that
was just me. I think that was just getting your head.
He was on set because there was the photo that
(05:27):
was going around that made him look like in retirement
he'd become a giant. Yeah that maybe he had doubled
in size. Yes, maybe he was a big guy. What
was he sixtuster, He's a big dude. Well, that's what
everybody was asking. In the way that that photo was cropped,
he had two guys to the right, and then you
had a partial persons like we can't we can't get
(05:50):
everybody in frame. Not not as big as he's, not
as big as as he was, like man eating him.
I had the eater of worlds. So the home run
derby still going. We got Outbert pool Holes coming up,
and maybe he's you know, hitting balls that maybe they're
little bit lighter, fly a little bit more than anybody else.
There's a lot of questions about the short's exciting. But look,
(06:14):
while the home run derby is going on, I want
to say I think I can sue and make us
a lot of money because it was right after the
two thousand two All Star Game ended, in a time
when both sides ran out of pictures, and I still
vividly remember Bud Seeley gone on television knowing the camera
is on him with his hands spread out wide, like
what do you want me to do? There's nothing else, commission,
(06:38):
don't blame me. And I was here first time around
Fox Sports Radio. We were on the air right after
it happening, and I said, how do you not have
a home run derby decide the game? Right? This is
a twenty year old idea that I had right twenty
year old idea got any bit of payment plus? Twenty
years ago, I had this idea, and what do we
find out today? If the All Star Game tomorrow night
(07:01):
is tied after nine innings, there's going to be a
home run derby to decided twenty years ago. I had
this idea of my Carmen twenty years ago. Twenty years ago,
did you put it in writing and send it to
the office of the Commissioner. Look, there was no such
thing as twitter back then, because as I'm as, we're
all learning here and for different reasons in the world.
When you say something, it's a lot different than when
you actually tweeted, So there's different things on that. Twenty
(07:24):
years ago. I had this, like twenty years ago, I said,
let's have a home run derby. Let's do that for
the second half of the season. You know, runner, Let's
have a home run derby after nine innings. Sam, right,
here's your batting practice picture. He rolls out. You pick
three guys, We got three guys, let's go, or do
it like the old home run derby game of all
(07:44):
those years ago. Do you ever watch those old reruns? Yeah,
here's Johnny bench up against this should have been from
the fifties. Sure, so you would have, you know, Hank
Aaron against Ernie Banks, Hank Aaron against Willie Mays. Hey,
here's Mickey Manolin, and they'd have interviews every half inning
all the other guy was hitting. You got three out
and you went right back to back out and it
was your turn again. Le It was brilliant. Let's do that.
(08:07):
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terms they do apply. Now you want to talk about
fixing stuff, right, and we're in that kind of fun
mood tonight. Well, as long as we say correcting if out,
Fixing stuffs can sometimes have a nefarious if if Albert
(08:33):
winds up winning the home run, if he winds up
winning the home run derby, people are gonna say, oh,
it's fixed. You know what else people are gonna say
it's fixed is if we wind up with a tie
game after nine innings tomorrow night. Yes, hey, we got
a home run Derby. Hey, everybody likes home runs. Hey,
let's let's do this. This is gonna be awesome. Yeah, okay,
I think I think I think people walk around go boy.
(08:56):
First year they decided to do a home run. Derby
decided and we got a home run to that's outstanding.
Liam Hendricks comes in and he was told to take
a dive. It's like, why you have to groove one?
We need this game tied, you know, you know what,
you know a funny story. I was actually on the
way and I was talking to Michael Fabiano, NFL Network,
you know, and and now Sports Illustrated Fantasy grew and
(09:16):
we were talking about this about you know, I'm sure
to be fixed that they wanted when tomorrow night, and
he goes, yeah, it's like people would have thought the
NFL was fixed last year. Remember all week long was
if the Chargers and Raiders tie in the last game
of the regular season, then we get all kinds of
great right charges And we almost had almost It's like,
how close do you think things aren't really to being
(09:37):
on the up and up? Sometimes dirty Raiders, I tell
you it's it's a terrible thing. But you know, we
we talked about particularly in the NFL, and if you
extrapolate out to gambling and participating in any type of
sports wagering or whatever else you're betting on in your life.
I mean, the margin for errors is very low. Uh.
(09:57):
When you know we we're talking about nf FELL games,
how many are decided by one possession? Right? Go back
and look at the Minnesota Vikings a year ago. They
were top what top ten offense, middling lower third defense,
and they lost a lot of games in the final
four minutes. And that's one of the things that comes
out about Zimmer versus Cousins, which will get into as
(10:20):
the show goes on. But it's just that idea of
all right, we're we're down inside those final possessions. Right.
You could be a genius. You you mentioned Fabioto. He
knows this as well as you and I do. For
fantasy purposes, I could make the right call all day
long on a player I called a bus for the week.
You know what has to happen. One slip by a cornerback,
(10:41):
one slip of a would be tackler, and all of
a sudden, it's eight yards and a touchdown, and that
twenty seven yard sixteen Carrey days. Suddenly he's over the
score and now I'm an idiot. Right, That's the way
it works until the time you turn into an idiot.
But it's the same thing with betting. It's like, all right,
(11:01):
I got this is good as your own. No, that's
with the relationships too. You were smart and I liked
you know what happened? Then you turn into an idiot. Okay.
Usually you get a little longer run, unless it's something catastrophic.
Oh yeah, yeah, it has to be really bad, like
there you have to get you'll get a warning or hey,
we gotta talk about this. But if I mean the
yellow card comes out, sometimes you go right to a
red though that's a that's a red. That's that that's
(11:24):
a red. There's no question, that's an absolute red. Sometimes
I go there's a few times I remember going right
to red, going right to red in the situation, that's
straight to red. Okay, fourth of July. This is this
is before I started dating Pam. I dated this girl
Shannon for a long time in college and out of college.
I think we've known you long enough that that timeline
had to be there. On you're gonna be answering some
(11:47):
other questions girls, so seven shut up. So we were
dating and it was like we tried to make it
work for like two years. Like we're on and off
dating for just like the longest time. And I had
moved to New York City and she was in Syracuse,
says right after college was over, and I was gonna
work in New York for the summer and then see
(12:07):
what happens. So at the time, you know, we wouldn't,
haven't you know, I was, you know, we were doing
the long distance thing and seeing how it goes. And
so fourth of July was her birthday, and so I go,
I decided, you know, I'm gonna do I'm a surpriser
for a birthday. So I take the train up from
from New York City and to Syracuse. Max. I'm gonna
see my other friends too, but I'm excited, a surprised
for a birthday and uh. And so I get Syracuse
(12:28):
and I surprise her and she's like, oh my god.
But I could tell something's up a little bit, and
I go, so I gotta surprise you, like whatever you
want to do. I know you said this, yes okay,
and I said, watch yes. Well I sort of made
plans with the guy I started dating a couple of
weeks ago, and I said, oh, red card, red card
right away, right, I said, okay, that's it. And here's
(12:49):
the thing. She she after we after I said okay,
that's it, we're done, and she calls me back like
I don't know, like an hour later, going I moved
stuff around so we can do stuff. I moved stuff around.
I go, no, you obviously you like somebody else. Now
obvious this is not working. Okay, I've been gone for
a month and you started dating somebody, So we're done, right,
we're done. And she was, no, you don't. You don't
understand what I moved around to do this. I go,
(13:10):
you didn't want me up here? What are you talking about?
And that was it, and that it was all. I
went right to the red card right there. The door
didn't was behind the curtain. Hey who are you? Um
um Shannon him, Yeah, but uh, well what's going on?
He lights a cigarette light, lights the match on his way.
Are you wearing her robe? You want to come in
(13:34):
hang out? I mean she's in the shower, she'll be
out to side, you know. I mean, now, there was
none of that. It was just I was like, okay,
that was because all in all, in my head, I'm
going I sat on the train all the way up
here for five and a half hours. My walkman, I've
had a walkman. My walkman ran out of batteries and
I finished. My buddy was but he didn't have rey
chargeable batteries because this was the nineties. It was the nineties. Yeah, sorry,
(14:00):
I gotta explain to millenials what a walkman is. A
walkman was a device you would use to listen to
music that ran on batteries. When the batteries ran out,
unless you had new batteries, you had to wait until
you got new batteries to be able to listen to music.
So that was it. That was That was like right
to a red card, that was it. That was red.
Think going forward, you should just get yellow and red
cards with you. Just just put put in my pockets,
Like there's yellow, there's a red RD at a bar
(14:23):
and one of your friends says, something wrong is that
I'm done with you? My dad would love to do that,
like going to just go in to grocery stores. If
someone gives them problem red card, you're getting red. You're
getting red. I think that would I think if he
documented that for a week or two, it really could
become something like you know, that might come rage overall
in this country if you have people how I'm gonna
give you a yellow or a red card because then
you feel like, all right, I got it out. I
(14:44):
was mad because you were so slow and checking me out,
or you know the uh whatever happened you was this
return took too long. I'm giving you a yellow or
I go right to red. At least I get the
satisfaction of I give you a yellow or red card
and then you got to go to the belt to
do it, and that they cause other problems I think
going from my yellow card, coach for my yellow card, right,
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rewards terms do apply. So we are getting close to
the championship here for the home run derby, No mat
you No MAT's okay. Bets are in first place and
Pete Alonzo leads the National League and and all of
base perm RB I it's okay. Does he have a
record for dead lifting? Because he's not winning a home
(15:49):
run derby, it doesn't matter. Maybe he has a dead
lift record now, maybe they should add that to All
Star Monday Night deadlifting on camera, Pete Alonzo is your
record hot dog eating contest on camera? It will be
Julio Rodriguez and Juan Soto for all the marbles. Juan Soto.
I don't believe he should be allowed to wear a
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Washington National's jersey because he's probably gonna get traded at
some point. I mean, I think that's wrong. He should
have to wear one of those neutral jerseys or where
the jersey of the team you want to get traded to.
Suddenly he comes out in the Dodgers jersey, comes out
in the Mets jersey. Yeah, I'm ready to hit, ready
to go, ready to go well, or a jersey of
his own design, yea branding team Bad Bunny could design
(16:32):
a jersey for him because Bad Bunny's out with the
trophy right now, showing everybody why did I get a
run this week? He is bad Money's get bad Bad
Bunny and Brian krast that Bunny they're getting. But I
mean tell him, tell me you didn't see a better
tag team this weekend than Cranston and j K. Simmons. Yeah,
that was pretty rocking those big beards and look menacing.
(16:53):
That was pretty good. I got got a like that
he walked up to the breaking bad. I like that.
I like that he he couldn't kick any dirt on
the up when he tried to kick the dirt was
too well. Uh so Sono and Rodriguez for the home
run Derby Championship, getting ready to start the final round
right now. But all the attention and this is some
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kind of story because when this when this broke. Look,
you and I both love baseball, and and you know
you don't get a lot of breakdown of stories, baseball
stories and a lot of shows because a lot of
shows are like baseball on them. But Juan Soto now
said today he is uncomfortable amid all the trade talk
going on right now as the Nationals have said they
will listen because he turned down a twenty nine million
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dollar a year a contract extension worth four d and
forty million dollars. Soto says, look, it's out of my hands.
It's disappointing or it's frustrating, but he's gonna go out
and play. And this was a real shock because a
month ago from the Nationals it was we're not trading
Juan Soto. It's a non starter. We're not trading him.
But anytime Scott Boris is your agent, it's never gonna
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be easy. And you should know that when Scott Boris
is your agent. As a team, this is not going
to go how you think it is. This is never
going to go. I want to be here, I want
to play here the rest of my career. We're ready
to give you a lot of money and it works out.
It just doesn't. It's no, no, let's let's wait and
let's try to get other teams interested and let's move
on and then things get crazy. This is not anything
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that's bad because Scott Boris is doing for his client
what he's supposed to. Like, I want to get you
the most money. But there's some agents who understand if
a client says, hey, I really want to be here
the rest of my career, and this is the money
that I vault, did this and this and this, and Okay,
that's more important for you. Scott Boris is simply about
what's the best deal. What's the best deal for me?
Because this is for me, but it also is the
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best deal for Juan Soto. And I can't say first thing.
I can't say. I can't be upset that he turned
this deal down because in the end, it's twenty nine
million a year and the best players, the Lindor's and
Bryce Harper getting over thirty million a year, and Max
Scherr's is getting forty three million a year, albeit for
three years. So while the Nationals have said, well, we'll
give your shoes or money. You want forty three million
(19:06):
for the next three years, we'll do that for you,
but that's not what he wants. He wants forty three,
forty five, probably fifty million dollars a year for the
next ten years. I guarantee you he's got that pie
in the sky ten years, five hundred million. That's the
deal he wants for Juan Soto, right, Because he was
the guy who brokered the two fifty million dollar deal
for Alex Rodriguez fifteen years ago. Now it's things of
(19:30):
things have changed. This is the new A rod who's
on the market, A guy in his mid twenties, has
already won a World Series and an All Star three times,
one of the great talents in the game. Yeah, you know,
he's holding out for ten years and five hundred million dollars.
Whether he gets it or gets close to it, Okay,
but that's his pie in the sky, and you know
that is that's it with Scott Bors. So I can't
say I'm upset with him because his Juan Soto undervalued
(19:53):
at twenty nine million year. Yeah. Probably this is just
the way it is, right, I mean, oh, I can't
believe I can turn down twenty nine million dollars year
to do something or forty. Well, you can when you
can get more and somebody's gonna give you more than that,
because he is worth more than that, because what his
talent value is and we're Major League Baseball is at
Juan Soto is worth more than twenty nine million dollars
(20:14):
a year. So yeah, he's gonna wind up getting more money.
I would have said no as well, so just the
first offer that's come out that this is what we
want to pay you, and you know, let's see how
things go. Let's see what happens. And now the Nationals
are thrown a wrench into things by saying, hey, we'll
listen to offers for you right now, so I'll call
if you want one. Soto. I mean, you look at
his age, accomplishments to date, and whatever you want to
(20:34):
say about his stats for for two as we sit
here at the All Star break, that's fine, hitting to
fifty with his forty three rb I and and people
wringing their hands saying, well, I mean, look at what
you're doing this year. You should have bought in. It's like, well, no, man,
look what my trout got in right, thirty six million
a year. He's thirty one. Soto still has two years
(20:58):
before three agency when he will be twenty six. So
the math right, like the game is growing, right, we
know that from a media right standpoint, it's growing. The
cap continues to go up before you get into the
luxury part of the business. And so when Scott Boris
is your agent, they're gonna come in with nine thousand
(21:20):
pages of comps and a recognition of where the marketplace is.
And you see these other deals. You mentioned Harper's deal,
you mentioned Scherzer's deal and how that was structured. That certainly,
if you're a hitter and you're looking to sign on
for a decade, you're going top dollar. It's it's like
the quarterback market, right, if you're the next one up.
(21:41):
It may not seem right, but it's reality to say, hey,
take a seven to nine million dollar a year discount
at today's prices. Forget about where the market is going.
Not to mention, inflation has got us at ten percent
right now this year. Okay, economic inflation, Let's see if
we can get more if it goes back. But like legitimately,
(22:02):
if you're just just compared to trouts, you're gonna say,
all right, seven million dollars less for a guy eight
years younger and already these accomplishments, it doesn't work, Like
the math fails. Yeah, give us a hometown discount. Really,
why you you got rid of all these other pieces
(22:23):
that we had, right, I just watch you jettison all
these guys. Why why would I want to bank in
and hitch my post to you guys for the next
decade plus. Now here's how this is gonna end, all right,
because the one, this one Soto story is just fascinating
that all of a sudden, the Nationals decided, Yep, we'll listen,
because if you don't want this kind of money, we're
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not going to give you the real silly, crazy money
when we're not going to contend for a what're them
one last? Because they don't I don't want to be
the bad guys. They don't want to be, They're gonna
give them. They're gonna give a final offer that they
know Scott Boris and Juan Soto is going to say
no to. But they're not going to give him all
that kind of money when they're not close to contending.
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Why are you gonna pay one so too all this
kind of money when you are so you are ten
or twelve players away from contentner, so you're not gonna
do it. You're gonna try to rebuild your farm system
and you're gonna try to get players and do all
these different things. So here's how Juan Soto is gonna
play out. It's gonna play out exactly like Bryce Harper.
Because when Bryce Harper was gonna leave the Nationals. Same thing.
It was, Oh, who doesn't want Bryce Harper? Here he
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is mid twenties, he's he's the most talented player in
the league. Look at what he does, most dangerous hitter,
Bryce Harper. And what happened? How many teams were interested
in Bryce Harper? Not many because the price tag was
just way too much. And how many teams were interested
in Bryce Harper at the end A couple, not this
whole MLB. Hey, all the rich teams want Bryce Harper.
(23:48):
Mets weren't in it, Yankees weren't in it. All, the
Dodgers weren't in it. Oh yeah, there there they were
trying to count their Ponzi scheme money and see what
they had left. They're doing that but to evacuated, trying
to figure out what was laughing? But how many teams
were in it on Bryce Harper? Nobody? Right? It came
down to the end, it was it's really gonna be
the Phillies like, oh, he's gonna take our thirty million
(24:11):
dollar year offer? Who Okay. It was kind of disappointing
because teams realize to put that kind of money in
on a player is really difficult, and they watch the Phillies.
They have not won with Bryce Harper, and I guarantee
you if the Phillies could do it over again, they
would not give Bryce Harper that money. So Juan Soto
is different. He's younger, he's this, But Juan Soto is
(24:31):
also a guy you have to give up a lot
of prospects for. So you have to give up a
lot of prospects for him, and then you're gonna have
to sign him in a couple of years, because that's
gonna be the thing. You're not gonna give up four
of your top prospects and whatever players the Nationals want
to let him walk into and a half years, you're
gonna see the actual market for Juan Soto be way smaller.
(24:53):
It's gonna be like a Bryce Harper market. There will
be a couple of teams that have the resources that
would love to get Juan Soto, but it's not gonna
be a lot this whole storyline of look how many
did here's the top seven team. No, there's not gonna
be seven teams in it for once, Settle. There will
be one or two teams in it, and it's gonna
play out over a long period of time. No, one's
gonna go No, one's gonna go nuts with making an
(25:15):
offer now, because a team that could be in it,
like let's say the Padres, they have a really good
young core. They want to see how this year goes.
Hey do we have enough this and they played all
this year exactly, Let's see what happens. Let's watch this playout.
He's one, Sodo is not gonna get traded this year.
This will be a storyline that sort of fades and
it will get hotter again the closer he gets to
(25:36):
the end of his deal, when he's up, when he's
doing new money, and that's what that's when he wind
up getting traded. But for now, it's going to be
a petering out storyline and eventually what or two teams
will be interested and will be a team like the Padres.
It has a bunch of prospects that can say, all right,
it didn't work out this year. We've had two years
with this, with this nucleus, and we haven't had it.
(25:57):
So here you go, Washington, here's to really good players,
everyday players. Here's a picture, and here's one of our
big prospects. And you give us one. So toa we
give one so to a lot of money. So that's
kind of where the reality is for Soto is that
it's gonna be a team that has this, but it's
not gonna be for a while, and there's only gonna
be a couple of teams interested. This is not gonna
(26:17):
be one of those league wide, Hey, Lebron James taking
meetings for every team that wants them. This is not
the case. How Bryce Harper's free agency pursuit went is
how sotos is going to go. And it will be
even slower because teams say, not only do we have
to give up, we have to pay him and giving
this money. At some point, we got to give up
all kinds of prospects. And it's not like we're gonna
trade prospects, but we gotta sign them. That's not part
(26:39):
of the deal because you have two and a half
years to go on that. So I I fail to
see how any team is gonna jump to the front
and say this is what we want to do, even
a team like the Mets right that would love to
get one. So Mets made a lot of moves right
there in first place by three games in the NL East. Uh,
things are pretty good. De Grama is coming back, Sures
is already back. Maybe this is the team they win
with so so many teams that you think would want
(27:00):
to do this, would want to play out this year
as well, to say, let's see how things go before
we upset the apple cart for Juan Soto, Well, just
the pure economics of it make it a a non
starter for so many teams in Major League Baseball. I mean,
I've already seen him photoshopped into every style of Dodgers
jersey that there is. I mean, there's no question about that. Uh.
(27:22):
You look at teams that normally spend some money. I mean,
look the Angels, if they hadn't signed Anthony ren don
you know away from the Nationals that maybe maybe you
know that this would have been the guy they could
have gone after, and and now you'd have a six
man tag team with Otani and Mike Trout. But instead, well,
you've got a really bad contract on the books for
(27:44):
you right now as a guy that hasn't been able
to see the field. But there's a few teams right
You're looking at the New York squads, You're looking at
maybe San Diego, but they're already committed to a lot
of money and how much do they want to push
over the top? Right? I mean that that's it. They
went all in with a ton of moves these last
couple of years, So that kind of gets you back
to the Dodgers, the kind of get you back to
(28:06):
the New York squads. And then you're always wondering if
if suddenly they find a giant box of cash in Boston,
giant box of cash. Well, hey, once upon a time
they spent a lot, and then the clubs have divested
and there are nothing at this point, and maybe the
Ricketts decided to push all in because I know the
guy on the other side of town won't be sure
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they do apply well. Speaking of amazing, because it just happened,
Juan Soto is your home run derby champion nineteen to
(29:33):
eighteen in the final round, he is your winner, and
maybe of all the things I like to see the
most of Mike Carmen, I didn't mind Pete Alonso losing
because Starling Marte, Mets right fielder was no more than
two feet from Juan Soto the entire time, laughing at
everything he said, hyping him up, excited. He's trying to
get Juan Soto to the Mets trade. Yeah, that's awesome. Oh,
(29:57):
this is like when you're out and you meet somebody
that you really like and you just laugh at everything
they say, and you're you're hanging on their every word
because you want them to know you really like them,
and hey, let's get together. This is starling Marte. Every
every time I look up, Marte is a foot and
a half from one Soto. Hey, yeah, that's looking at
we're contending we're in first place. Come here. He's a
(30:18):
big recruiter. Yeah. I mean on the Ale side, you
had vlad Guerrero going over to Rodriguez whenever he could,
uh and you know kinship there, but certainly Marte was
first in the frame. About other teammates, coaches, your actual
picture who served up those nineteen over balls. I still
(30:39):
want to know what happened to the bat though, because
he hit the final home run. It went pretty high
in the sky and I did not see where it landed. Yeah,
I'm assuming it's okay, the bat or the or anybody
and anybody that might have uh well taken one of
the don't I think it's I think I think everybody
we would have stown. I think if that happened now,
I mean maybe' well, maybe it's they would turn a
(31:00):
bar stool or TMZ. They would have screen experience is
going on here for all the sporting events. I mean,
if if it really do you know what happened, it
would have been Marte getting hit in the head and
it would have been always out for the next three
months now because he got hit with a bat. That
would be the Mets luck right there about that. And
I know he's okay because I saw him congratulating one
Soto afterwards over there, jumping up and down like the
(31:24):
guy at home sayed after a walkoff Homer. Oh yeah, no.
This is this is when when somebody says I won
the lottery, and every all the family members around him,
yeah you did, and Grandma you did a grandma yeah yeah, yeah,
look at this. Yeah, I'm never I'm not leaving your
side for the rest of your life because I want money.
That's Sterling Marte. Man. I don't think you normally say that.
(31:44):
They told that. You know, Steve Coo had called Sterling
Marte and said, you have coffee because coffees for closers.
You go close that deal with one Soto's not not
at all And that's not tampering. How is that? That's
not really. I mean it is, but it's not. All
he's doing is congratulating him on. By the way, that
had to me remains the dumbest rule in all of sports. Yeah,
(32:08):
these guys can't text each other, call each other whatever.
Players can do whatever they want. But if you're an
executive and you say wonderful things about appending free agent
or trade target, no no, no, that's all bad and
wrong and evil. But now players, hey, I would totally
have Marte trying to infiltrate Juan Soto's camp and whatever
(32:30):
dinners and celebrations he's got going on here in Los Angeles.
They're like, hey, we got dinner for six. No, no,
we need a seventh. Oh yeah, Marte is coming again.
He's just walking around going, yeah, Mets, Mets, Mets, met Mets, Mats, Mets,
Mats's Metts, Mets, Mets, Mats, Mats, Mats met met Mett
met on, you want to do a Jersey trade. Let
(32:52):
me see how this looks at And you're right. Marte
shows up to dinner addresses Mr. Mett. No, it's me,
it's darling. She wants I'll take my hat off. No,
don't do it. The kids, the kids. No, it's me,
trust me, it's stalling. You're gonna come to us, right,
You'll love it here. Then it's awesome New York has
made for you. What should be worse if it was
Marte with the Mr Mett hat on, head on and
(33:14):
he took the head off in a public place where
you can't do that. You can't do that, or the
former Mr Mett flipping people on. No, no, no, you can't.
That's like, that's like, that's like Michael Myers trying to
take his mask. It just doesn't work. The mass doesn't
come off, the mask stays on, or walking around certain
theme parks with the heads off and again smoking. I
(33:36):
can't believe that Mickey mounserette put that hat back on
and throw that cigarette away. But I'm just vaping. Mickey
Mouse doesn't vape. Hey, yeah, I'm Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Dun't
dunt dune dune done that? Yeah? Yeah that song? Hey
yeah yeah yeah inside right and yes, yes, I know
(33:58):
show that was yes, Goofy, Yes, we're friends. Goofy and
I hang out all the time. Yes, I know, I know. Yes,
that's a don't don't Dad's nights. Get hold the thing
to the hole in his throat. Since about twenty years ago,
my dad had a track and has the buzzer vibrator
(34:20):
for the vocal court. I can speak to that. Hey everybody,
I mean hey everybody, so sorry about that. Sorry, kids,
you have those commercials disturbed me. When the guy starts singing,
that's the that's not making that's not even no, it's
not even closeting. You are completely on the other side
(34:40):
of it. That's the same thing. No, it's not. They're
in trouble for a whole other reason. Who tie shirts
in trouble? No, the whole sesame This is not even Elmo,
that's you're You're in Sesame Street. We're in Mickey Mouse.
It's not the Sesame Street to the left. It's not
the same. Tell me how to get Yeah, I can
tell you how to get the sunny day se been
the clouds away. I'll tell you how to get, how
(35:01):
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