July 26, 2022 • 35 mins
Today on The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys discuss Kyler Murray’s awkward contract situation with a caveat of “independent study.” This is the Cardinals saying that Kyler doesn’t study film. The guys also discuss a potential trade for an NBA team to acquire Kevin Durant. Plus, NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to discuss Kyler Murray’s contract, Lamar Jackson and more from the NFL!
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rule kingdoms in the past. There's whole things about that, right,
just like Game of Thrones. It's like Game of throat. Well,
get oh, I don't want to know. No that didn't know,
but it happened. But down Game of Thrones, bad example.
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I understand, but that was But I mean I'm wanna okay,
gladiator yeah no, well, uh, I do like movies about gladiators.
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I don't know where to go with that. I don't
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to another Monday here sports Radio. All right, you know what,
clearly I needed to do my homework or independent study
on stone Roses love spreads before we started talking. Yeah,
there's no question about it. Uh. Maybe the best football
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story of the Office season so far about a brother
and sister. No, it's not's no, it's not brothers and
brothers and sisters. Pump up the volume, brothers and sisters.
Pump up the volume. Dance, dance, do do Do Do
Do do do Uh. Kyler Murray made big news last
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week when he signed that big extension with the Arizona
car forty six million dollars a year. We talked about said, look,
I'm not the biggest Kyler Murray fan in the world,
but the account Cardinals said, Okay, what are our odds
that we're going to get better at quarterback in the
next five years? Pretty tough because Murray's turned that team
into a team that wins, they make the playoffs and
look where the Cardinals came from. Okay, so I got it,
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I understood it. And now today we get a story
that is just the absolute worst optic in the world.
And it's just it it. You hear the I'm gonna
tell you the story, and you're gonna go now, this
isn't real. No, it's absolutely real. According to the contract,
and this is a clause that was labeled independent study
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addendum does not have to do anything with college or
what you have to do to get extra credit. Hey,
if I do independent study adendam, can I get that
extra credit so I can get fifteen and still be
a full time student? Uh? The independent study addendum to
Kyler Murray's contract is that he will need to study
material provided to him by the team in order to
prepare for the cardinals next upcoming game. He's going to
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receive credit for completing his film study four hours a week.
He has to spend an independent film study getting ready
for the cardinals next opponent. The Cardinals also say that
time that he spends in mandatory meetings does not count,
and that Murray won't receive credit if he doesn't personally
study the provided material in good faith. So basically, Kyler
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Murray could be expelled from the Arizona Cardinals if he
doesn't study more for the season. How ridiculous of a
headline is this? I mean, this is this is one
of those stories where he's here the headline. He go, Okay,
I can't really be that way. Oh no, no, oh no,
and it's much more about Oh no, the more you
get into it, the more embarrassing it gets. Oh, let's
get really embarrassing. You signed a guy to be your quarterback,
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your franchise quarterback that you're paying forty six million dollars
a year to the next few years, and you're not
convinced he's going to do the work mandated to be
the best quarterback he can be and earn the forty
five million dollars a year, so you have to put
a mandatory study clause into his contract. Now, there's there's
certain ways you can look at this story, and hot
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take artists can go, oh, I understand, No, just stop
for one second. There's there's no other angle to this
other than the Cardinals gave forty five million dollars to
a franchise quarterback they can't trust to do the work
needed to win football games in the NFL. There's no
other way you can cut this up besides that. And
now the Cardinals are back to be him. Look at
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the Cardinals. They make business man headlines as the Jets
and the Lions do. Congratulations Arizona. I'm absolutely um stunned
that this language would appear in a contract that could
be disseminated widely that you were able to get this
clause out there. I don't know that is this a
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legal clause in terms of the contract language. I mean,
I don't know. The way they make it enumerated and
and put through. All the process is almost like, all right,
we get to install a camera and watch you. Because
the whole thing is you have to really be engaged
in your study. You can't be watching SpongeBob on another screen.
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Maybe that's doing the independent study and watching SpongeBob on
the other screen. All right, now, when the Dolphins dropped
two safeties deep on this, all right, I'm gonna lower
the game and I'm gonna raise. I'm gonna tell you
it might might be easier to I'd be more inclined
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to be fired up to watch film study if suddenly say,
you know, it was a long drawn out musical sequence
out of say high school musical or something, uh, instead
of just some boring plays that we ran in a
in a bad game against Jacksonville last year, Just say,
you know, trying to excite the senses and make you engage.
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But no, it's it's really just curious because you go
out of your way to embarrass him after giving him
all this money? Is really what this is because you
know what was getting out. Oh of course, of course,
but you still gave the guy forty five million. Now
I went from left you really must love him on
a whole other level, you know. I I went from
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last week liking the move to going now, oh my god.
I mean, that's how much you're worried about a guy
putting in the work to win football games that you
have to put it in his contract. And this is
why when I said in the offseason, listen to f
them picks offers, because we knew the Cardinals and Kyler
Murray were at odds. Murray was very um I would say,
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NFL emotional, NFL immature, and maybe it was time to
move on, right, somebody would call on FM picks offer
someone who was really desperate for a quarter back, and
they would wind up doing something and given up a
lot of picks and they could move on from a
player that maybe they were in a thrilled upon and
they didn't do it and they signed him. I mean
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I like this move a lot less now, And yeah,
it's because of this headline you gave him forty five
million dollars. Here, you already got it. He's guaranteed a
hundred and sixty millions. You think because you guaranteed him
that money, he's now going to do the extra work.
The guy didn't do the extra work to get this contract. Now,
now you've already guaranteed him a hundred and sixty million dollars.
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You really think that he's now gonna say, Okay, now
I'm gonna not Now I'm gonna straighten up and fly
right now I've learned my lesson. No, you just enabled him.
He had questionable behavior going in, and now you enabled
him by giving him all this money. But we want
to make sure you're studying. Yeah, yeah, independent study? How
how do you figure out independent study? How do you?
How do you? How do you? How do you judge
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whether or not he's actually watching, uh, doing the independent
study or not? How could you not do that? Well,
it's gonna be like a lot of time tests that
you take. It's like, all right, he's logged on. You
now have four hours and every session counts against that.
It's a level of absurdity, right, And obviously we've talked
about questions of his leadership. You got deeper into the
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scrubbing of social media. I don't I don't much care
about that. Uh, so long as you actually put in
the work to be a leader and push forward. Now,
if it's clear, if he is a guy that hasn't
done any homework, that's one hell of an athlete right there. Man.
Well what he's been able to accomplish in the National
Football League. That's why to some degree, I don't buy
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you know, the he doesn't do anything, doesn't study. Would
you like him do more? Yeah, you'd always like him
to do more. Everybody would love to say, well, tom
Brady does this, just like they do with his contract.
Tom Brady only took this many million. Look, no, no, no,
get out of here. I'm not Tom Brady, nor am
I gonna be Tom Brady. Where you know, this stuff
is being fed into my brain and while I'm in
a quasi say state of sleep. That's just not gonna work.
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It's not gonna be the way this flows. But you've
embarrassed the guy. You've got this contract all sorts of
workout bonuses and other things, which, okay, those those are
all in and fine and good, uh, fairly standard, perhaps
a little more than you would normally get with a
guy you're giving a hundred sixty million dollars guaranteed. But
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this one I don't. I don't see the wind. They
have to answer answer for it upon arriving to Camp
Kingsbury time and Murray the agent will have to deal
with it a bit, you know, and do his damage control.
And it's gonna linger every game that is played, every
mistake that he makes, every loss. Did he do his
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four hours this week? Well, this is the way to
keep him, to keep him honest with it and keep him. Hey,
you're gonna be We're gonna count on you. And this
is a way publicly to keep him up on things
with this study that everybody's everybody knows that you don't
study film. Right. He gave this quote to The New
York Times last year when it came to film work.
He doesn't spend extensive time watching film because quote, I'm
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blessed with the cognitive skills to go out there and
just see it before it happens. So I need to
watch film. Right, He's the only quarterback, He's the only
quarterback in the history of the game. I could see
it before it happens. Well, he said, he's smarter than
the average bearer. Why why can't you just accept if
you can see it before it happens, should be seventeen
to know that you should never lose again. I can
see every play before it happens. Look, guy, he's I mean,
he didn't save his MS Cleo. The guy doesn't want
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to do the work, and this is a way to
hold him accountable by making sure this gets out. He
doesn't watch game film now, I don't know. Look, you
could go back to the why the hell did you
give him money? Because that's kind of what where it
all comes down to. You knew this about him, and
you still gave money, and you think this is gonna
work out. Well, how it's gonna work out? Well, I
mean I don't understand. I understand how you think. Well,
you really want to make sure you get a bigger contract.
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You gotta work harder. I'm just gonna be upset in
the offseason, scrub you guys from social media and there
there it is million dollars a year. Oh but now
you're gonna work hard? Yeah yeah, yeah right right, okay, yeah, sure, yes,
independent film study, Yes, yes, ye yes, I'll make sure
to get that done. He's not doing it. He's not
doing it. He's already a guy. I'm gonna get by
on my physical ability because that's kind of what I've
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always done. And now does the independent study come with
you know, crans paints and poster boards so he can
give a presentation of what he learned. No, no, no,
come on, I mean this is this is two. This
is where you have to log in and you have
to get your certificate that you went through compliance to
actually answer questions and end you just get to click through.
No no, there's no, there's and you get the quiz
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at the end of the times out, So you have
to make sure you get the answer the questions. Right.
The quarterback of the Miami Dolphins is a to AA
B Dan Marino, ce Don Strock, d all of the above.
Like I gotta go on, I gotta go back, hang
back and see we're playing the Dolphins this week. Yeah,
it doesn't seem like you learned how, why and how
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this interception came to happen. Let's go back and watch
that Secrets again, shall we? Alice is ever going to end? Well?
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in attendance for the oriole once again reaching five hundred,
Jason Locke and for at Jay, congratulations again on reaching
five hundred. Thank you. I'll take it over the sea.
They goes, and they can still say that. Um, I'm
all for it, but I think they're about to be
over five here. Um. Pretty soon, but this phrase series
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will be tough. And then they go on the road Cincinnati,
Pittsburgh Texas the kind of teams they've been quavering, and
even the Yankee series over the weekend was nipped took
for the most part. So no, they're they're they're quality
interesting ball club and two straight months now played over
five hundred ball which they haven't done since things are
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turning for the better. Here now wait a minute, whit
are you in your car right now? Yeah? Okay, okay, now,
because now you've become a hey, like a Los Angeles
Dodgers fan. Where oh the game just ended, so you like, oh,
we're up five one of the ninth. We got this.
I'm going to beat the traffic to get to the
card so I can get on and do the interview.
What do you leave in the eighth inning? I hold disclosure?
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So I got family in from out of town from Georgia,
my brother in law and his kids, and our dogs
are are a little crazy and their kids are scared
at dogs. So I left with my oldest son, Rocco
uh after eat to try to get home in time
to hopefully do this in time, and so I can
do this before I get home when the dogs go crazy,
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and then get the dogs out real quick, get them
upstairs and squared away before I then let these guys
in my house. So that's way more information than anybody
would ever want to know. But that is exactly why,
yes the game. We listened to the ninth inning um
driving home and with the Orioles pullman of five one lead,
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I felt I felt confident. But either way, um, it
had more to do it again about my dog situation
than anything else. All right, so let's let's kick things
off here. Mike and I just spent the last few
minutes talking about Kyler Murray and this clause in his
contract that he has to have four hours of film
study a week. I mean, Jay, this is no matter
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how you slice it, this is a embarrassing for the Cardinals.
And be how is this gonna work when you gave
the guy a hundred and sixty million dollars and that's
all we want you to work harder that that's gonna
actually happen. Yeah, Like, I don't know if they're gonna
want to monitor his screen time like I have to
do with my kids, Like they'll be a little a
little like you know so student device they put on
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his tablet and it's like, did you really spend four
hours a week looking at your playbook? It's a gong show, guys.
And I mean the general manager chiefs time is incredibly
good at keeping his job and incredibly good at making
the Bidwell family Um doubled down on his experiments and
quadruple down. But the coach wasn't worthy of an extension,
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the GM wasn't worthy of extension, and the quarterback wasn't
worthy of an ex edtion to this magnitude and all
that money spent and who cares because the bid Wales
are billionaires and nobody should be crying for them one
way or the other. But there's not a whole lot
of there there with that team. I just feel like
you talk to people who play them regularly, who scout them,
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it's it's kind of Pacaca offense run around. They can play.
The deeper that they get into games, the deeper that
they get into seasons, the more they get exposed. There's
a lack of ideas to fight their way out, UM,
and there have to be real doubts about Tyler Murray's
again ability to finish things strong and to really connect
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with teammates and to be that uber leaders you look
for when you make this kind of commitment. And even
having to include even thinking about including language like this,
let alone actually doing it and having both sides agree
with it kind of reached me like a pox on
all their houses, Like they're probably a perfect match for
each other and they can enjoy a whole lot of
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mediocrity for years to come. Certainly, second half failure has
been the tail of the tape. Now let's get to
the meat and meat of the news cycle. If he
has to pass to win the game, they win. In
the game. He's so unique as an athlete and really
good football player, But I don't give a blank if
he wins the league MVP twelve times, I don't think
you'll ever be a one as a quarterback. There's the
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anonymous defensive coordinator on the exploits of former m v
P Lamar Jackson. How's that playing in Baltimore? You know,
I think people here are just they think there's a
degree of fatigue about just this constant onslaught of um, reporters, pundits, analysts, um,
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just sort of getting their shops in at this kid.
And I think most people are over it. Most people
see it for what it is, and like, here, here's
the other thing. Just because somebody in the media says
something to you doesn't mean you have to learn creas
to you don't mean and amplify it and and put
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it out there for the whole world to see. Like,
you know, people need to use some degree of common
sense when they do this kind of reporting. And just
because someone in many cases with weak credentials or someone
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who themselves doesn't have a whole lot to stand up,
Like just because someone's on an NFL payroll doesn't necessarily
mean there are any good at their job. And there's
a real lack of discrimination I think in terms of
being somewhat discreet about what takes on this kid and
what like how many times does this guy really faced them?
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Like how many times has he game game plan for him?
It's just I don't know. The idea that it's always
open season on Lamar Jackson is is kind of trite,
and um, honestly, you know, some of it is born
from the fact that this learner in Baltimore doesn't want
to play him either, So you know, it's clear he
don't think he's worth fifty million dollars a year. Otherwise
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it'd be done on the open market. He would clearly
give more than fifty million dollars a year. And I
don't think there's a case to be made based on
everything that's happened in the business of the NFL the
last you know, eighteen months to two years, where you
could look at any data point and say it doesn't
port point towards Lamar Jackson being you know, worth two
hundred and forty million, fully guaranteed and fifty a year.
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But this guy hasn't given it to him yet, and
he doesn't seem inclined to do it. And I feel
like that is also part of the deal here that Okay,
Kyler Berry gets paid for three years la mar Kaine
what he's worth after pose? What am I missing here?
And a lot of people sort of extrapolated guests or
you know, taking liberties um finalities arrangings have cost themselves
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conservatively eight to ten million dollars a year over the
length of a four to six year per year basis,
over the length from a four to six year contract.
So he's e actually gonna get that money somewhere, whether
it's from them or somebody else, But you know it's
you don't need to give every stupid person in the
NFL access to your forums in the media. You know. Well,
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that's what I think is is the big underlying part
of this j is that, yes, there seems to be
this personal aspect to criticism of Lamar Jackson. Okay, you
have certain people feel certain ways about quarterbacks, just feel
that way. But in Baltimore, you know, he's doesn't have
an agent, and he doesn't seem like he's crazy to
get the money from them as much as they don't
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want to. Could this just be the inevitable divorce and
he's okay, playing it out until he can leave, and
then that's gonna be I mean, the owner I didn't
say a word for three and a half years. Then
he goes to an owners meeting, he coordinates to four
people in the media who's willing to talk to and
he basically set the expectations for the fans, which again
he ends spoke directly over three years, and he says,
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I think the kid doesn't really want money, isn't motivated
by money. It doesn't want to get paid till he
won the Super Bowl, all of which is completely yes,
and then says to the overarching you know, reality here
is I don't think the way that one of the
Browns did is good at business. I'm nessure that makes
sense for us, and we're probably looking at a franchise tag.
So he's he's telling you that, Well, once you get franchised,
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what you're willing to go down that route with the quarterback,
then you're either going to end up dreading it because
you get destroyed in negotiations and you give them more
than you ever you bush, or you trade them. And
you know, if you told me that he got tagged
in February and and got traded by July because they
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couldn't come to terms on an extension the next year,
I wouldn't flinch that that that that wouldn't shock me.
Um because again, in you probably could have had him
for a round forty. Now he's going to want fifty.
You're gonna want six or seven years of control. He
probably only wants to give you four, maybe five. But
but even that's a fifty million dollar mistake. Jason. Lastly,
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for you, the have you a ever had anybody love
you as much as Tyreek Hill seems to love to
a tongue of Ilola and then has he set him
up for failure? Look, I mean, doth he protests too much? Probably? Um,
But everybody needs a good hype man. And and you know,
I wish I had a pr person um or an
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agent who is as good at amplifying that rhetoric as
Tyree Hill is for two. But I think they're gonna
be fine. I think they're going to stay within the
fines of wood to ruins. Well, um, I think they're
gonna be attracting that lives and dies with Jack and
I think they'll live with it. And I think they
completely good defense. And you know, I didn't get Miami
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at like plus one forty to make the playoffs. I
don't think that's I don't think that's crazy. I don't
think that's pretty. He's on Twitter at Jason lock and
for that is at Jason Locke and for audits, the
NFL Insider hype man for the Baltimore Orioles and to
get the end to get the dogs upstairs in his house.
Jay is always buddy, appreciate it, man. We'll talk to
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you next week. Man to you, buddy, you know, just
real quick on on tiree kill and and you know
Jay gave that line all the Lady doth protest too
much Shakespeare. Uh, this is the thing about why I
don't feel the tyree kill is being genuine about two
a tongue of vloa. What I feel like he's doing
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is he's justifying his decision to leave Kansas City, which
has been roundly questioned over the course of the past
few months. Right, who leaves Patrick Mahomes for for two
a tongue of vlowa. Right, but he wanted to get paid, Okay,
But now that he's getting this criticism of dude that
the Chiefs would have paid you some kind of money?
Do you really want to do that? Are you here?
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How many times we've seen him say now on podcasts
and interviews, how great to it is? Uh? Dude two
is in his last few weeks the starting quarterback in
the NFL if he doesn't play well. Alright, he's not
that great. He's not somebody's not the most accurate quarterback
in all of the He's not somebody that a lot
of teams would go after. Right now, he is on
his last chance to be a starter in the National
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Football League. This is what it is. We wouldn't be
getting this consistent. He's great, he's great. He's great from
Tyreek Hill if he really thought he was great, because it'sunnecessary.
You don't need to prop up a quarterback if he's great.
And and just by seeing Tyreek Hill do this, I
know he's not sold on too. He's putting pressure on
him because he knows he's got a step up. And
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if TA doesn't get it done the first five weeks,
guess what, there's gonna be a new quarterback in Miami. Yeah,
it could very well be the case. I mean, obviously
there's a lot of weapons, and I'm curious to see
what the new coach has in mind. You know, there's
some question of whether they'll use Tyreek kill to some degree.
In the Ebo. Samuel get him all over the field,
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creates chaos and opportunities for him to make some big plays.
But certainly he has set him up as the guy
and really said, all right to it. You better proved
me right. I took a lot of money, but I'm
taking a lot of flak for line it up with you.
He also took a shot at your quarterback along the way.
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I see a lot of similarities when I look at him,
and I look at Patrick talking about to U Zach Wilkes.
Wilson is a dog, but I'd rather play with the
most accurate quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. Last before he
learned that Zack Wilson may or may not have been
dating his mom's best friend. He may have changed that.
He may may change that change it. Be sure to
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them All this day, Um, there could be a new
leader to get the services of Kevin Durant. As earlier today,
sources report that the Nets and the Celtics have had
conversations about Kevin Durant trade and it centers around all
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starred Jalen Brown. The Nets want a lot for Kevin
Durant and the initial offer, which supposedly what we heard
is Jalen Brown, a rotational player or two and a
couple of draft picks is not enough. And the Nets
reportedly have countered with Jalen Brown, Marcus Smart, a couple
of other players and multiple draft picks, which the Nets
have said, which the Celtics said, yeah, I don't know
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about that. And seeing where this goes, and and look,
maybe it maybe it dies here, Maybe the they wind
up making a trade at some point. Maybe the Nets
move on and say, all right, it's not gonna work
out with the Celtics, you go someplace else. But I
needed a little bit of time just to see what
the offers coming in for Kevin Durant were and if
Jalen Brown and a couple of other good rotational players
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and multiple first round picks aren't enough, and Jalen Brown,
Marcus Smart, a couple of rotational players and draft picks
is what it's gonna take for Kevin Durant. I don't
know if I don't know if you want to call
this a hot take, but I don't know that I
do that. Man as good as Kevin Durant is, is
he worth ripping up your entire team just to get him, right,
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because you're the Celtics, You're a team that we have
championship aspirations, and now you're saying you're gonna lose four
players from your team, including an All Star player and
a really good star guard in Marcus Smart, and you're
gonna place with Kevin Durant. Okay, that's great. K D
is k D when he's healthy, but you'd be ripping
up your team just to go get him. Kevin Durant
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is gonna be thirty four. He just had a team
around him in Brooklyn and could even get to the
conference finals. The last three years for Kevin Durant, he
didn't play the entire season. He played thirty five out
of seventy two games, and he played fifty five out
of eighty two games. Plus. He's not been happy anywhere
he's been. He found a way to not be happy
in Oklahoma City when they did everything for him all right.
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He found a way to not be happy in Golden
State even though he was winning championships. He found a
way to not be happy in Brooklyn when they built
the team around him and it was him coming in.
It was gonna be his vision, His team everywhere he's been,
he's found a way to not be happy. Tell me
how trading everything you have for Kevin Durant is gonna
be worth it? I would, I would still I would
trade for k D. But am I gonna mortgage my team?
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Am I gonna say? Here's a team that got to
the finals last year, and what I'm gonna do is
to go get Kevin Durant, who now is injury prone,
and I'm gonna give up four players now to play
a ton of minutes for me in addition to multiple
first round picks. Yeah, I don't know that I'm doing that.
I I don't know that I'm doing that for Kevin
Durant because, yeah, all right, we'll get better with Kadi's
gonna play at allegedly, But Kevin Durant is not twenty
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eight years old anymore. And this is not the Kadie
that we've seen the last couple of years when he
has had a chance, when he's been healthy. Yes, he's
shown he's still Kevin Durant, But can you bank on that?
And are you Are you going to be any more
of a contender if you give up multiple valuable parts
to your team? Because the Nets just showed us with
k D and a bunch of guys not nearly enough.
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So now is k D and Jayson Tatum and a
bunch of guys gonna be enough in Boston to win
the championship? Yeah? If I get a mortgage future future
for Kadie, I'm not doing it. This has just way
too many pieces to it as currently reported, whether it's
Smart and Derek White or Derek White and all sorts
of draft picks for whatever the short term is on
Kevin Durant, Like I always see these great projects and
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of oh he might still have another five to seven years,
like of what fifty games a year? Like what am
I banking on? And yes, I know we're not that
far removed from the clown shoe being the difference at
a playoff series, But beyond that, you're looking at it
at a guy, as you said, he's he's never happy
and is always going back and forth. How much of
that is you know, just he's he's board And the
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next challenge, well, you just signed a four year extension here,
uh and clearly this avenue, this this challenge is is
not to your liking. So you're gonna go to Boston
where they've already had questions about whether they can get
past chemistry. You've got a coach that turned everything around
into the second half of the season into in Udoka
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and what you had great success and into the playoffs.
But no, we're that close. But tell with it, because
we can get a name and a guy who's really
good at social media and just joined TikTok. No about way,
I can't if it's a if it's a more, I
don't want to say not more fair trade because I
understand you want value for Kevin Durant, but I I
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know I got to give up a really good young
player to get him. I gotta give up some other assets.
But this isn't Juan Soto, right, He's not twenty three
years old, and this guy is gonna be great for
a lot of you. I mean, this is Kady. How
many years he's really have left? How how many years
will you wind up setting your team back? If Kevin
Durant isn't Kevin Durant anymore, If Kevin Durant can't play
more than fifty games in a year, I'm not doing it.
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I'm sorry, as good as Kad is, I'm not doing
it because I'm a contender right now. But if you're
telling me to get Katie to go over the top,
I get to give away all those things. I might
not be a contender anymore. Here's more, Here's more draft picks.
You can try to figure out how to read the
tea leaves of how the NBA is flowing. I'm not
giving you guys that were pivotal to my rotation and
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success rolling into the NBA Finals. I'm just not doing it.
Jayson Tatum is in a good spot with Brown. They've
they've got a nice head to that, to that snake
as you move forward. I'm not I'm not cutting part
of that up. No, it's it's just too difficult. As like,
as much as I like k D, I'm not doing that,
not doing it, not doing it. Twitter and how about Afresca.
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just like Game of Thrones. It's like Game of throat. Well,
get oh, I don't want to know. No that didn't know,
but it happened. But down Game of Thrones, bad example.
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I understand, but that was But I mean I'm wanna okay,
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clearly I needed to do my homework or independent study
on stone Roses love spreads before we started talking. Yeah,
there's no question about it. Uh. Maybe the best football
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story of the Office season so far about a brother
and sister. No, it's not's no, it's not brothers and
brothers and sisters. Pump up the volume, brothers and sisters.
Pump up the volume. Dance, dance, do do Do Do
Do do do Uh. Kyler Murray made big news last
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week when he signed that big extension with the Arizona
car forty six million dollars a year. We talked about said, look,
I'm not the biggest Kyler Murray fan in the world,
but the account Cardinals said, Okay, what are our odds
that we're going to get better at quarterback in the
next five years? Pretty tough because Murray's turned that team
into a team that wins, they make the playoffs and
look where the Cardinals came from. Okay, so I got it,
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I understood it. And now today we get a story
that is just the absolute worst optic in the world.
And it's just it it. You hear the I'm gonna
tell you the story, and you're gonna go now, this
isn't real. No, it's absolutely real. According to the contract,
and this is a clause that was labeled independent study
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addendum does not have to do anything with college or
what you have to do to get extra credit. Hey,
if I do independent study adendam, can I get that
extra credit so I can get fifteen and still be
a full time student? Uh? The independent study addendum to
Kyler Murray's contract is that he will need to study
material provided to him by the team in order to
prepare for the cardinals next upcoming game. He's going to
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receive credit for completing his film study four hours a week.
He has to spend an independent film study getting ready
for the cardinals next opponent. The Cardinals also say that
time that he spends in mandatory meetings does not count,
and that Murray won't receive credit if he doesn't personally
study the provided material in good faith. So basically, Kyler
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Murray could be expelled from the Arizona Cardinals if he
doesn't study more for the season. How ridiculous of a
headline is this? I mean, this is this is one
of those stories where he's here the headline. He go, Okay,
I can't really be that way. Oh no, no, oh no,
and it's much more about Oh no, the more you
get into it, the more embarrassing it gets. Oh, let's
get really embarrassing. You signed a guy to be your quarterback,
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your franchise quarterback that you're paying forty six million dollars
a year to the next few years, and you're not
convinced he's going to do the work mandated to be
the best quarterback he can be and earn the forty
five million dollars a year, so you have to put
a mandatory study clause into his contract. Now, there's there's
certain ways you can look at this story, and hot
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take artists can go, oh, I understand, No, just stop
for one second. There's there's no other angle to this
other than the Cardinals gave forty five million dollars to
a franchise quarterback they can't trust to do the work
needed to win football games in the NFL. There's no
other way you can cut this up besides that. And
now the Cardinals are back to be him. Look at
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the Cardinals. They make business man headlines as the Jets
and the Lions do. Congratulations Arizona. I'm absolutely um stunned
that this language would appear in a contract that could
be disseminated widely that you were able to get this
clause out there. I don't know that is this a
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legal clause in terms of the contract language. I mean,
I don't know. The way they make it enumerated and
and put through. All the process is almost like, all right,
we get to install a camera and watch you. Because
the whole thing is you have to really be engaged
in your study. You can't be watching SpongeBob on another screen.
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Maybe that's doing the independent study and watching SpongeBob on
the other screen. All right, now, when the Dolphins dropped
two safeties deep on this, all right, I'm gonna lower
the game and I'm gonna raise. I'm gonna tell you
it might might be easier to I'd be more inclined
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to be fired up to watch film study if suddenly say,
you know, it was a long drawn out musical sequence
out of say high school musical or something, uh, instead
of just some boring plays that we ran in a
in a bad game against Jacksonville last year, Just say,
you know, trying to excite the senses and make you engage.
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But no, it's it's really just curious because you go
out of your way to embarrass him after giving him
all this money? Is really what this is because you
know what was getting out. Oh of course, of course,
but you still gave the guy forty five million. Now
I went from left you really must love him on
a whole other level, you know. I I went from
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last week liking the move to going now, oh my god.
I mean, that's how much you're worried about a guy
putting in the work to win football games that you
have to put it in his contract. And this is
why when I said in the offseason, listen to f
them picks offers, because we knew the Cardinals and Kyler
Murray were at odds. Murray was very um I would say,
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NFL emotional, NFL immature, and maybe it was time to
move on, right, somebody would call on FM picks offer
someone who was really desperate for a quarter back, and
they would wind up doing something and given up a
lot of picks and they could move on from a
player that maybe they were in a thrilled upon and
they didn't do it and they signed him. I mean
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I like this move a lot less now, And yeah,
it's because of this headline you gave him forty five
million dollars. Here, you already got it. He's guaranteed a
hundred and sixty millions. You think because you guaranteed him
that money, he's now going to do the extra work.
The guy didn't do the extra work to get this contract. Now,
now you've already guaranteed him a hundred and sixty million dollars.
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You really think that he's now gonna say, Okay, now
I'm gonna not Now I'm gonna straighten up and fly
right now I've learned my lesson. No, you just enabled him.
He had questionable behavior going in, and now you enabled
him by giving him all this money. But we want
to make sure you're studying. Yeah, yeah, independent study? How
how do you figure out independent study? How do you?
How do you? How do you? How do you judge
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whether or not he's actually watching, uh, doing the independent
study or not? How could you not do that? Well,
it's gonna be like a lot of time tests that
you take. It's like, all right, he's logged on. You
now have four hours and every session counts against that.
It's a level of absurdity, right, And obviously we've talked
about questions of his leadership. You got deeper into the
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scrubbing of social media. I don't I don't much care
about that. Uh, so long as you actually put in
the work to be a leader and push forward. Now,
if it's clear, if he is a guy that hasn't
done any homework, that's one hell of an athlete right there. Man.
Well what he's been able to accomplish in the National
Football League. That's why to some degree, I don't buy
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you know, the he doesn't do anything, doesn't study. Would
you like him do more? Yeah, you'd always like him
to do more. Everybody would love to say, well, tom
Brady does this, just like they do with his contract.
Tom Brady only took this many million. Look, no, no, no,
get out of here. I'm not Tom Brady, nor am
I gonna be Tom Brady. Where you know, this stuff
is being fed into my brain and while I'm in
a quasi say state of sleep. That's just not gonna work.
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It's not gonna be the way this flows. But you've
embarrassed the guy. You've got this contract all sorts of
workout bonuses and other things, which, okay, those those are
all in and fine and good, uh, fairly standard, perhaps
a little more than you would normally get with a
guy you're giving a hundred sixty million dollars guaranteed. But
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this one I don't. I don't see the wind. They
have to answer answer for it upon arriving to Camp
Kingsbury time and Murray the agent will have to deal
with it a bit, you know, and do his damage control.
And it's gonna linger every game that is played, every
mistake that he makes, every loss. Did he do his
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four hours this week? Well, this is the way to
keep him, to keep him honest with it and keep him. Hey,
you're gonna be We're gonna count on you. And this
is a way publicly to keep him up on things
with this study that everybody's everybody knows that you don't
study film. Right. He gave this quote to The New
York Times last year when it came to film work.
He doesn't spend extensive time watching film because quote, I'm
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blessed with the cognitive skills to go out there and
just see it before it happens. So I need to
watch film. Right, He's the only quarterback, He's the only
quarterback in the history of the game. I could see
it before it happens. Well, he said, he's smarter than
the average bearer. Why why can't you just accept if
you can see it before it happens, should be seventeen
to know that you should never lose again. I can
see every play before it happens. Look, guy, he's I mean,
he didn't save his MS Cleo. The guy doesn't want
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to do the work, and this is a way to
hold him accountable by making sure this gets out. He
doesn't watch game film now, I don't know. Look, you
could go back to the why the hell did you
give him money? Because that's kind of what where it
all comes down to. You knew this about him, and
you still gave money, and you think this is gonna
work out. Well, how it's gonna work out? Well, I
mean I don't understand. I understand how you think. Well,
you really want to make sure you get a bigger contract.
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You gotta work harder. I'm just gonna be upset in
the offseason, scrub you guys from social media and there
there it is million dollars a year. Oh but now
you're gonna work hard? Yeah yeah, yeah right right, okay, yeah, sure, yes,
independent film study, Yes, yes, ye yes, I'll make sure
to get that done. He's not doing it. He's not
doing it. He's already a guy. I'm gonna get by
on my physical ability because that's kind of what I've
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always done. And now does the independent study come with
you know, crans paints and poster boards so he can
give a presentation of what he learned. No, no, no,
come on, I mean this is this is two. This
is where you have to log in and you have
to get your certificate that you went through compliance to
actually answer questions and end you just get to click through.
No no, there's no, there's and you get the quiz
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at the end of the times out, So you have
to make sure you get the answer the questions. Right.
The quarterback of the Miami Dolphins is a to AA
B Dan Marino, ce Don Strock, d all of the above.
Like I gotta go on, I gotta go back, hang
back and see we're playing the Dolphins this week. Yeah,
it doesn't seem like you learned how, why and how
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this interception came to happen. Let's go back and watch
that Secrets again, shall we? Alice is ever going to end? Well?
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in attendance for the oriole once again reaching five hundred,
Jason Locke and for at Jay, congratulations again on reaching
five hundred. Thank you. I'll take it over the sea.
They goes, and they can still say that. Um, I'm
all for it, but I think they're about to be
over five here. Um. Pretty soon, but this phrase series
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will be tough. And then they go on the road Cincinnati,
Pittsburgh Texas the kind of teams they've been quavering, and
even the Yankee series over the weekend was nipped took
for the most part. So no, they're they're they're quality
interesting ball club and two straight months now played over
five hundred ball which they haven't done since things are
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turning for the better. Here now wait a minute, whit
are you in your car right now? Yeah? Okay, okay, now,
because now you've become a hey, like a Los Angeles
Dodgers fan. Where oh the game just ended, so you like, oh,
we're up five one of the ninth. We got this.
I'm going to beat the traffic to get to the
card so I can get on and do the interview.
What do you leave in the eighth inning? I hold disclosure?
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So I got family in from out of town from Georgia,
my brother in law and his kids, and our dogs
are are a little crazy and their kids are scared
at dogs. So I left with my oldest son, Rocco
uh after eat to try to get home in time
to hopefully do this in time, and so I can
do this before I get home when the dogs go crazy,
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and then get the dogs out real quick, get them
upstairs and squared away before I then let these guys
in my house. So that's way more information than anybody
would ever want to know. But that is exactly why,
yes the game. We listened to the ninth inning um
driving home and with the Orioles pullman of five one lead,
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I felt I felt confident. But either way, um, it
had more to do it again about my dog situation
than anything else. All right, so let's let's kick things
off here. Mike and I just spent the last few
minutes talking about Kyler Murray and this clause in his
contract that he has to have four hours of film
study a week. I mean, Jay, this is no matter
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how you slice it, this is a embarrassing for the Cardinals.
And be how is this gonna work when you gave
the guy a hundred and sixty million dollars and that's
all we want you to work harder that that's gonna
actually happen. Yeah, Like, I don't know if they're gonna
want to monitor his screen time like I have to
do with my kids, Like they'll be a little a
little like you know so student device they put on
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his tablet and it's like, did you really spend four
hours a week looking at your playbook? It's a gong show, guys.
And I mean the general manager chiefs time is incredibly
good at keeping his job and incredibly good at making
the Bidwell family Um doubled down on his experiments and
quadruple down. But the coach wasn't worthy of an extension,
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the GM wasn't worthy of extension, and the quarterback wasn't
worthy of an ex edtion to this magnitude and all
that money spent and who cares because the bid Wales
are billionaires and nobody should be crying for them one
way or the other. But there's not a whole lot
of there there with that team. I just feel like
you talk to people who play them regularly, who scout them,
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it's it's kind of Pacaca offense run around. They can play.
The deeper that they get into games, the deeper that
they get into seasons, the more they get exposed. There's
a lack of ideas to fight their way out, UM,
and there have to be real doubts about Tyler Murray's
again ability to finish things strong and to really connect
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with teammates and to be that uber leaders you look
for when you make this kind of commitment. And even
having to include even thinking about including language like this,
let alone actually doing it and having both sides agree
with it kind of reached me like a pox on
all their houses, Like they're probably a perfect match for
each other and they can enjoy a whole lot of
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mediocrity for years to come. Certainly, second half failure has
been the tail of the tape. Now let's get to
the meat and meat of the news cycle. If he
has to pass to win the game, they win. In
the game. He's so unique as an athlete and really
good football player, But I don't give a blank if
he wins the league MVP twelve times, I don't think
you'll ever be a one as a quarterback. There's the
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anonymous defensive coordinator on the exploits of former m v
P Lamar Jackson. How's that playing in Baltimore? You know,
I think people here are just they think there's a
degree of fatigue about just this constant onslaught of um, reporters, pundits, analysts, um,
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just sort of getting their shops in at this kid.
And I think most people are over it. Most people
see it for what it is, and like, here, here's
the other thing. Just because somebody in the media says
something to you doesn't mean you have to learn creas
to you don't mean and amplify it and and put
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it out there for the whole world to see. Like,
you know, people need to use some degree of common
sense when they do this kind of reporting. And just
because someone in many cases with weak credentials or someone
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who themselves doesn't have a whole lot to stand up,
Like just because someone's on an NFL payroll doesn't necessarily
mean there are any good at their job. And there's
a real lack of discrimination I think in terms of
being somewhat discreet about what takes on this kid and
what like how many times does this guy really faced them?
(20:56):
Like how many times has he game game plan for him?
It's just I don't know. The idea that it's always
open season on Lamar Jackson is is kind of trite,
and um, honestly, you know, some of it is born
from the fact that this learner in Baltimore doesn't want
to play him either, So you know, it's clear he
don't think he's worth fifty million dollars a year. Otherwise
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it'd be done on the open market. He would clearly
give more than fifty million dollars a year. And I
don't think there's a case to be made based on
everything that's happened in the business of the NFL the
last you know, eighteen months to two years, where you
could look at any data point and say it doesn't
port point towards Lamar Jackson being you know, worth two
hundred and forty million, fully guaranteed and fifty a year.
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But this guy hasn't given it to him yet, and
he doesn't seem inclined to do it. And I feel
like that is also part of the deal here that Okay,
Kyler Berry gets paid for three years la mar Kaine
what he's worth after pose? What am I missing here?
And a lot of people sort of extrapolated guests or
you know, taking liberties um finalities arrangings have cost themselves
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conservatively eight to ten million dollars a year over the
length of a four to six year per year basis,
over the length from a four to six year contract.
So he's e actually gonna get that money somewhere, whether
it's from them or somebody else, But you know it's
you don't need to give every stupid person in the
NFL access to your forums in the media. You know. Well,
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that's what I think is is the big underlying part
of this j is that, yes, there seems to be
this personal aspect to criticism of Lamar Jackson. Okay, you
have certain people feel certain ways about quarterbacks, just feel
that way. But in Baltimore, you know, he's doesn't have
an agent, and he doesn't seem like he's crazy to
get the money from them as much as they don't
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want to. Could this just be the inevitable divorce and
he's okay, playing it out until he can leave, and
then that's gonna be I mean, the owner I didn't
say a word for three and a half years. Then
he goes to an owners meeting, he coordinates to four
people in the media who's willing to talk to and
he basically set the expectations for the fans, which again
he ends spoke directly over three years, and he says,
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I think the kid doesn't really want money, isn't motivated
by money. It doesn't want to get paid till he
won the Super Bowl, all of which is completely yes,
and then says to the overarching you know, reality here
is I don't think the way that one of the
Browns did is good at business. I'm nessure that makes
sense for us, and we're probably looking at a franchise tag.
So he's he's telling you that, Well, once you get franchised,
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what you're willing to go down that route with the quarterback,
then you're either going to end up dreading it because
you get destroyed in negotiations and you give them more
than you ever you bush, or you trade them. And
you know, if you told me that he got tagged
in February and and got traded by July because they
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couldn't come to terms on an extension the next year,
I wouldn't flinch that that that that wouldn't shock me.
Um because again, in you probably could have had him
for a round forty. Now he's going to want fifty.
You're gonna want six or seven years of control. He
probably only wants to give you four, maybe five. But
but even that's a fifty million dollar mistake. Jason. Lastly,
(24:13):
for you, the have you a ever had anybody love
you as much as Tyreek Hill seems to love to
a tongue of Ilola and then has he set him
up for failure? Look, I mean, doth he protests too much? Probably? Um,
But everybody needs a good hype man. And and you know,
I wish I had a pr person um or an
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agent who is as good at amplifying that rhetoric as
Tyree Hill is for two. But I think they're gonna
be fine. I think they're going to stay within the
fines of wood to ruins. Well, um, I think they're
gonna be attracting that lives and dies with Jack and
I think they'll live with it. And I think they
completely good defense. And you know, I didn't get Miami
(24:58):
at like plus one forty to make the playoffs. I
don't think that's I don't think that's crazy. I don't
think that's pretty. He's on Twitter at Jason lock and
for that is at Jason Locke and for audits, the
NFL Insider hype man for the Baltimore Orioles and to
get the end to get the dogs upstairs in his house.
Jay is always buddy, appreciate it, man. We'll talk to
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you next week. Man to you, buddy, you know, just
real quick on on tiree kill and and you know
Jay gave that line all the Lady doth protest too
much Shakespeare. Uh, this is the thing about why I
don't feel the tyree kill is being genuine about two
a tongue of vloa. What I feel like he's doing
(25:39):
is he's justifying his decision to leave Kansas City, which
has been roundly questioned over the course of the past
few months. Right, who leaves Patrick Mahomes for for two
a tongue of vlowa. Right, but he wanted to get paid, Okay,
But now that he's getting this criticism of dude that
the Chiefs would have paid you some kind of money?
Do you really want to do that? Are you here?
(25:59):
How many times we've seen him say now on podcasts
and interviews, how great to it is? Uh? Dude two
is in his last few weeks the starting quarterback in
the NFL if he doesn't play well. Alright, he's not
that great. He's not somebody's not the most accurate quarterback
in all of the He's not somebody that a lot
of teams would go after. Right now, he is on
his last chance to be a starter in the National
(26:22):
Football League. This is what it is. We wouldn't be
getting this consistent. He's great, he's great. He's great from
Tyreek Hill if he really thought he was great, because it'sunnecessary.
You don't need to prop up a quarterback if he's great.
And and just by seeing Tyreek Hill do this, I
know he's not sold on too. He's putting pressure on
him because he knows he's got a step up. And
(26:42):
if TA doesn't get it done the first five weeks,
guess what, there's gonna be a new quarterback in Miami. Yeah,
it could very well be the case. I mean, obviously
there's a lot of weapons, and I'm curious to see
what the new coach has in mind. You know, there's
some question of whether they'll use Tyreek kill to some degree.
In the Ebo. Samuel get him all over the field,
(27:02):
creates chaos and opportunities for him to make some big plays.
But certainly he has set him up as the guy
and really said, all right to it. You better proved
me right. I took a lot of money, but I'm
taking a lot of flak for line it up with you.
He also took a shot at your quarterback along the way.
(27:24):
I see a lot of similarities when I look at him,
and I look at Patrick talking about to U Zach Wilkes.
Wilson is a dog, but I'd rather play with the
most accurate quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. Last before he
learned that Zack Wilson may or may not have been
dating his mom's best friend. He may have changed that.
He may may change that change it. Be sure to
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leader to get the services of Kevin Durant. As earlier today,
sources report that the Nets and the Celtics have had
conversations about Kevin Durant trade and it centers around all
(29:39):
starred Jalen Brown. The Nets want a lot for Kevin
Durant and the initial offer, which supposedly what we heard
is Jalen Brown, a rotational player or two and a
couple of draft picks is not enough. And the Nets
reportedly have countered with Jalen Brown, Marcus Smart, a couple
of other players and multiple draft picks, which the Nets
have said, which the Celtics said, yeah, I don't know
(30:03):
about that. And seeing where this goes, and and look,
maybe it maybe it dies here, Maybe the they wind
up making a trade at some point. Maybe the Nets
move on and say, all right, it's not gonna work
out with the Celtics, you go someplace else. But I
needed a little bit of time just to see what
the offers coming in for Kevin Durant were and if
Jalen Brown and a couple of other good rotational players
(30:27):
and multiple first round picks aren't enough, and Jalen Brown,
Marcus Smart, a couple of rotational players and draft picks
is what it's gonna take for Kevin Durant. I don't
know if I don't know if you want to call
this a hot take, but I don't know that I
do that. Man as good as Kevin Durant is, is
he worth ripping up your entire team just to get him, right,
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because you're the Celtics, You're a team that we have
championship aspirations, and now you're saying you're gonna lose four
players from your team, including an All Star player and
a really good star guard in Marcus Smart, and you're
gonna place with Kevin Durant. Okay, that's great. K D
is k D when he's healthy, but you'd be ripping
up your team just to go get him. Kevin Durant
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is gonna be thirty four. He just had a team
around him in Brooklyn and could even get to the
conference finals. The last three years for Kevin Durant, he
didn't play the entire season. He played thirty five out
of seventy two games, and he played fifty five out
of eighty two games. Plus. He's not been happy anywhere
he's been. He found a way to not be happy
in Oklahoma City when they did everything for him all right.
(31:33):
He found a way to not be happy in Golden
State even though he was winning championships. He found a
way to not be happy in Brooklyn when they built
the team around him and it was him coming in.
It was gonna be his vision, His team everywhere he's been,
he's found a way to not be happy. Tell me
how trading everything you have for Kevin Durant is gonna
be worth it? I would, I would still I would
trade for k D. But am I gonna mortgage my team?
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Am I gonna say? Here's a team that got to
the finals last year, and what I'm gonna do is
to go get Kevin Durant, who now is injury prone,
and I'm gonna give up four players now to play
a ton of minutes for me in addition to multiple
first round picks. Yeah, I don't know that I'm doing that.
I I don't know that I'm doing that for Kevin
Durant because, yeah, all right, we'll get better with Kadi's
gonna play at allegedly, But Kevin Durant is not twenty
(32:17):
eight years old anymore. And this is not the Kadie
that we've seen the last couple of years when he
has had a chance, when he's been healthy. Yes, he's
shown he's still Kevin Durant, But can you bank on that?
And are you Are you going to be any more
of a contender if you give up multiple valuable parts
to your team? Because the Nets just showed us with
k D and a bunch of guys not nearly enough.
(32:37):
So now is k D and Jayson Tatum and a
bunch of guys gonna be enough in Boston to win
the championship? Yeah? If I get a mortgage future future
for Kadie, I'm not doing it. This has just way
too many pieces to it as currently reported, whether it's
Smart and Derek White or Derek White and all sorts
of draft picks for whatever the short term is on
Kevin Durant, Like I always see these great projects and
(33:00):
of oh he might still have another five to seven years,
like of what fifty games a year? Like what am
I banking on? And yes, I know we're not that
far removed from the clown shoe being the difference at
a playoff series, But beyond that, you're looking at it
at a guy, as you said, he's he's never happy
and is always going back and forth. How much of
that is you know, just he's he's board And the
(33:22):
next challenge, well, you just signed a four year extension here,
uh and clearly this avenue, this this challenge is is
not to your liking. So you're gonna go to Boston
where they've already had questions about whether they can get
past chemistry. You've got a coach that turned everything around
into the second half of the season into in Udoka
(33:46):
and what you had great success and into the playoffs.
But no, we're that close. But tell with it, because
we can get a name and a guy who's really
good at social media and just joined TikTok. No about way,
I can't if it's a if it's a more, I
don't want to say not more fair trade because I
understand you want value for Kevin Durant, but I I
(34:08):
know I got to give up a really good young
player to get him. I gotta give up some other assets.
But this isn't Juan Soto, right, He's not twenty three
years old, and this guy is gonna be great for
a lot of you. I mean, this is Kady. How
many years he's really have left? How how many years
will you wind up setting your team back? If Kevin
Durant isn't Kevin Durant anymore, If Kevin Durant can't play
more than fifty games in a year, I'm not doing it.
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I'm sorry, as good as Kad is, I'm not doing
it because I'm a contender right now. But if you're
telling me to get Katie to go over the top,
I get to give away all those things. I might
not be a contender anymore. Here's more, Here's more draft picks.
You can try to figure out how to read the
tea leaves of how the NBA is flowing. I'm not
giving you guys that were pivotal to my rotation and
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success rolling into the NBA Finals. I'm just not doing it.
Jayson Tatum is in a good spot with Brown. They've
they've got a nice head to that, to that snake
as you move forward. I'm not I'm not cutting part
of that up. No, it's it's just too difficult. As like,
as much as I like k D, I'm not doing that,
not doing it, not doing it. Twitter and how about Afresca.
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