January 15, 2026 • 30 mins
Charlotte delivers the iconic million dollar line to Bunny and we’re ready to hear all about it!
Kristin shares why she is disappointed with Charlotte’s pouting while she is doing her wedding registry with Trey.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are
you a Charlotte? Hello, everybody. We are just going to
have a little recap of All or Nothing. It's episode
three ten. It aired August thirteenth, in the year two
thousand and This is a really, really, really really good episode.
(00:22):
It's one of my all time favorite episodes. Directed by
Charles McDougal, one of my favorite directors, and written by
Jenny Banks, one of my favorite writers. And in this
episode we have great people. Of course, we have Corbett
it's playing Aiden. We've got Kyle playing Trey, we have
Franny playing Bunny. We have Josh Hamilton playing George, whom
(00:45):
I love so much. He's a great actor, you guys,
and his part's really funny. So this is the episode.
The gist of this episode is that this is when
Carrie has been cheating on Big. She has not confessed
to any of the friends that she has been doing this.
She is trying to just kind of move along with
Aiden as though it didn't happen, and focus on the
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fact that she has a wonderful boyfriend. And then she'd
be walking along and she'll have these flashbacks of the
sex with big, and then she's like, oh God. And
she's really really good when she has these, because I mean,
we've all been there, and she's you know, internally riddled
with guilt and trying to kind of somehow muddle her
way through, and she's like, I'm never doing it again,
(01:29):
and you know whatnot, so let's.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Basically, what happens is she's got these flashbacks. We come,
we start at Samantha's new apartment in the meatpacking district.
We're having this little like party.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Where one of the really funny, very.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Time type things we're talking about is how you can
have anything delivered, because Samantha says, I said, oh, did
you make these whatever we're eating, and she says, no,
I have them delivered, just like the dinner and the
drinks and the DVDs. And we're like, oh, you can
have DVD's delivered, Like it's it's so much the year
two thousand, it really makes me laugh. So she's like, yes,
(02:10):
you can have anything you want delivered. Yesterday I had
condoms delivered. And then someone says, I hope you didn't
have sex with the delivery guy and she's like no, anyway,
it's pretty entertaining, and she goes to the window. Samantha
goes to the window and her this is her beautiful
new apartment in the meatpacking district that she bought. She
goes to the window and she opens the window and
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she kind of shouts to the meatpacking district like.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We've got it all.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Basically, she wakes up the next morning, she has these
huge windows, the sun is shining on her face, and
she is sick. Samantha is sick. We have rarely seen
Samantha sick. And she goes to try to shut the
curtains and she breaks her curtain rode. It falls on
her because she's kind of delirious because she's got a fever.
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And so then it's like, breaks my heart. This whole
montage breaks my heart. She starts going through her black
book and calling the guys that she casually has sex
with and asking them if they could come over and
hang her curtain rod, and all of them say no.
It is really sad to watch. I felt really really
bad for her, and I fully relate to this because
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it's tough being a single goal and having stuff break
around your house. And my advice is to call the
handyman I'm sure we all remember that Charlotte actually has
sex with her handyman in the second season because she's
so excited that he comes over and fixes something at
her house. I mean, I relate to all this. I
know it's probably very sexist for me to say this
or whatever, but it is very relatable, and.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I feel really bad for Samantha.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So eventually, luckily in the episode, Samantha calls Carrie and
Carrie does go over there to take care of her.
And I had fully forgotten that Samantha basically makes her
make the syrup that people in Atlanta drink, which is
like cold medicine codeine, which I don't think Samantha has,
(04:05):
and what's the drink, like Fanta or whatever. Yeah, it's
kind of funny. So she has Carrie make this medicine
for her, this drink, and she's like, give me my drink.
It's pretty funny. It's a pretty funny little scene. So
Carrie's over there with six Samantha. No wait, she confesses
after the party, I forgot. So once the girls leave
(04:27):
the party, it's just Carrie and Samantha, and Carrie decides
that Samantha is the person that she should confess to
because Samantha might not judge her, which of course she's right,
and Samantha is a very good listener and says, you know,
I'm not going to judge you, and Carrie says, like,
go ahead, go ahead, judge me just a little bit.
Samantha's like, not my style, and that I thought was
a really beautiful moment, and I think it's great to
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have a friend who's not going to judge you. I
think that's important because obviously Carrie's being hard enough on herself,
which doctor Orna in our Companion episode this week does
say that Carrie feeling guilty is a sign of being
healthily integrated in your mind to your actions. So I
think that's very important that Carrie got the stamp of
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approval of being a healthy person from doctor Orna. And
I want all the people who hate Carrie to hear that,
because if she was really a full narcissist, she would
probably not even feel guilty. That Orna didn't spit that out,
but I think that's really what she was saying, is
that they compartmentalized to the extent where they're not even
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really necessarily aware of the things.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That they're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That they shouldn't be doing, so they don't even feel guilt,
which is terrifying to think of.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So Carrie is not that person. She's not that person
at all.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So she confesses to Samantha before Samantha gets sick. Samantha
is a very good friend, does not judge her, and
then Carrie tells Samantha it's not so. Samantha says, so
you're having an affair and Carrie says, no, no, no, no,
it's just this one time. So you're like mhmm, because
of course we all know that's not true. Then Carry
(06:05):
goes after over there and takes care of her, which
is really adorable. Then Samantha's better and comes to my
engagement party, so we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So we find Charlotte in Burgdorf's.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
This is the scene I remember so well that I
talked to someone about Kyle. I guess we were in Burgdorf.
We had somehow hauled a big crane up there, and
Charletts wanted this shot, kind of an aerial tracking shot
through the China department. I don't know if you guys
remember in the first season, Charlotte goes out with the
guy that Carrie had dated because she thinks he's the
(06:38):
marrying type, but then she does not date him when
they see some china in a window and he doesn't
like the pattern that she likes. He likes a different
pattern that she does not approve of. Charlotte has some
very specific opinions about china patterns.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So we're in Burgdorf. I'm flipping this plate over.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm looking at it, and then I'm looking at who
made it, and we did it like thirty six times,
That's what I remember. And Kyle's there, and Kyle comes
over and looks at the china and says, I believe
He says fourteen hundred dollars, which does seem insane, but
apparently that is the actual price of the actual plate
that I was holding, which.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Is also like crazy. I don't think I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Knew at the time that I'm like flipping over a
fourteen hundred dollars plate in burger If I think, I
would have been really scared. But Kyle Trey says, you know, oh,
you know. He kind of makes a space and he's like,
I can't afford that because we'll be eating ramen off
of this based on my china debt and Charlotte pouts
and then he's like, oh, I can't take that face.
(07:43):
And I'm like, see, this is all because I saw
Bunny do that alrighty thing, you know, where she put
his hand on his arm and then he does what
she wants. But it's not a good relationship situation to
be pouting to get what you want. So I was like, wow,
I blank that part out. That was interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Tray's like, yeah, yeah, we'll register for that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And then I say, did you do your wedding your
engagement party list and he says, oh, yeah, I almost forgot.
So he gets these papers out, he hands them to me,
he walks away. The China saleslady's looking at us. I
think because we kiss or something. She's like disapproving or whatever,
which was interesting. And then I look at the papers
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and I see his really really messy handwriting, which I
was also interested in, like, I do not think that
that's Kyle's handwriting, but okay, and then I look at
a paper behind that and I say what's this and
he says, oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
A pre nup.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You know, it's just normal. Everyone in my family does one.
And I look kind of shocked. And then we he says, oh,
just have your lawyer look over it. We cut two
lunch with the girls. Who is my lawyer, Miranda, Miranda
Hobbs is my lawyer. She's reading over She's like, oh,
it's all standard. But Charlotte, Charlote's got some big eyes,
and she's like, but it's so unromantic. And basically she
(09:00):
I'm saying, like is it?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And Miranda's saying, oh, it's just normal. You know a
lot of people get prenups. Carrie's like, oh, yeah, a
lot of people get prenups. And Miranda says, you know,
this is just an opening offer. You can negotiate. And
I say, but I don't want to. It's not romantic.
And she says, oh, you know, it's pretty standard. And
then she goes, oh, but this is odd. He has
you on a on a vestment thing something like that.
(09:24):
I'm not, obviously not not versed in prenup language, where
if you have a boy you get oh here it
is here it is for every five years they're married,
she gets a percentage of five hundred thousand dollars over
thirty years. I mean, that's lame people. And obviously Charlotte
feels the same way. And then if Charlotte were to
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have a boy child, she gets one hundred thousand dollars
free and clear. And then Carrie says, well, what does
she get for a girl? And Miranda says nada. And
as doctor Orna and I talk about, that is horrifying,
and for some reason Charlotte doesn't seem horrified.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Enough in that scene. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't know if I wanted to be horrified and
they didn't want me to be horrified, or if I'm
just generally upset and they didn't want me to be
specifically upset about that. But it does seem really fully
one hundred percent insane that somehow he would give me
one hundred thousand dollars if I had a boy baby,
but nothing if I had a girl baby.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What the heck? Man is just wacky.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And also, five hundred thousand dollars over thirty years, based
on every five years, that's a horrible deal.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's a horrible deal. So I hadn't really thought.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
About all these numbers, because back at the time, I
don't think I was paying attention to the numbers. I
think I was so stressed by the scene that I
knew was coming where I have to try to negotiate
with Bunny and the engagement party scene and I have
to say to her, I'm worth a million, which lives
on on the internet, which is of course a joy,
but at the time, so scared, you guys, to do
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that scene, so scared, so weird to do a scene
where you're actually saying a number, a figure of money
that you're worth to marry someone.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's very, very weird.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But when I watched the scene, I did really love
it because I love Franny Sternhagen, who's playing Bunny, and
I remember the scene because I was in such a panic,
and I remember Jenny talking to me about it. I
remember Charles talking about it, I remember Darren. I think
Michael Patrick, like so many people, had a lot of
ideas about how I was supposed to do it, and
(11:34):
I feel I feel like what they wanted was for
me to be very strong, and when I watched it,
I felt like I was strong.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Because I think just to even say it is strong.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
But I don't know if I delivered it the way
they wanted, because I remember feeling at the time that
I hadn't done what they wanted.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But when I look back on it, I think I
did fine.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's one of those ones where I'm like, see that
I was worried for no reason there. But I do
really like that scene because I don't feel like we
see stuff like that very often. And I also feel
like it is, of course showing us a lot about
that family that they would have this prenup that apparently
everyone in the family signs. That's kind of bonkers, right,
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And I do feel like Charlotte should have been worried.
But I also feel like when I say I just
really love him and I want to marry him, I
do think that's one hundred percent true. And also what
I've forgotten is like I go to the girls to
tell them like, oh, I did it. I negotiated with
Bunny and I signed the papers, and they're like great, baby.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And then they don't call me baby. They say great.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And then Kyle comes and says, can I steal my bride?
And I go off with him and I kiss, and
I think Sir Jessica Carrey says something like at the
end of the episode, I think she says something like
and then there were three. I'm just like, oh God,
it seems like I'm leaving them. I totally forgot about that.
But we all know it doesn't last, so it's gonna
be fine, you guys. But I had a moment of panic.
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I'm like, don't do that, Charlotte. Leave them, don't leave
them into a scary family. That's not smart. That's how
I felt watching it. I don't know how you guys
feel watching it, but that's how I felt. Okay, then
let's go back to Samantha for a second. Did I
carry everything?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yes? I did? I did. Oh no, I forgot. She's sick.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Carrie goes over there to make her medicine for her.
Samantha says some totally crazy Charlotte like things. It was
I didn't remember this at all. She basically says I
should have gotten married because there's no one to hang
her curtain rod right, and Gary's just looking at her
like who are you? And then later on, thank goodness,
(13:36):
I mean, she just say we are all alone, Carrie,
and Carrie says, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We have each other, which is adorable.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And then luckily at the end, when Samantha feels better
to come to my engagement party, and Carrie says something like, yeah,
you were saying some crazy Charlotte like things. She says, oh, yeah,
I'm fine now you know I had a fever. And
you're like, oh, well, golly, that was scary. That was scary, Samantha.
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So let's talk about Miranda for a second, because I
had remembered that Joshua was on the show. I'm a
big josh Hamilton fan, but I did not remember this
part at all. So when we're at the early scene
where Miranda is reading the prenup to me, this handsome lawyer.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Walks by and he's like, oh, you're working over lunch and.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She's like yeah, and he said, oh, you sent me
to this hip restaurant. And Carrie's like him and looks
at Samantha, I mean sorry, Miranda like, oh, you're not him,
which is also funny. And then it turns out they
have a date that night, so they go on the
date and then they make out in the hallway, but
then the guy has to go his character's name.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Let's see, his character's name is George.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
George has to go back to Chicago where he lives,
and she says, you know what we do it agangst
is all very hot, and heavy in the hallway, and
he says, of course, I come and go all the time,
but there's also the phone, and she's like, okay. So
then they start having phone sex, and it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I feel bad saying this. It's a little cliched.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Okay, it's a little cliched phone sex where I had
to think through, like what do people actually say?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And I feel like it. I guess if you have.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Never had sex with the person and then you're having
phone sex first, which kind of seems odd, but I
guess that might happen in life, then you might just
go to kind of like the stock things that you
would say, which I feel like is what they're doing.
But I also feel that in the year two thousand,
we have probably not seen characters on television show having
phone sex, right, so so I'm going to give our
(15:38):
writers a break there. But I did think, like, we
need to be more creative at our Phone sex was
really what I was thinking, because they were having basically
it seems like they're having phone sex every night, and
then the really entertaining thing happens, which is at.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
One point, oh, I forgot this.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
At one point, Miranda's having phone sex and I call
her about the prenupt to tell her that Bunny's not
going to negotiate, and I'm like, I'm in a panic
on the other line, but she's having phone sex. She's like, Charlotte,
I've got to go, and you can hear me trying
to talk to her and she clicks over right, which is.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Then the next time we see them having phone sex,
he gets another call and he clicks over and then
he comes back to continue the phone sex, but he's
skipped ahead in the phone sex to a part that
they weren't at, which alerts her that something is off,
and she's like, no, no, you were kissing my breast
and he's like, no, no, I was thrusting and she's like, no, no,
(16:33):
you weren't.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We hadn't gone to that, and then.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He goes, oh uh, and she says, wait a minute,
and she sits up. Are you having phone sex with
other people? And he's like, well, Miranda, we never said
that we were exclusive. Like he's kind of entertaining, and
that's the end of George. We don't get to see
Q Josh Hamilton again, which is kind of sad. And
apparently I read in the notes that he was in
(16:56):
the other room. He wasn't recorded pre recorded, And this
is something that we would very commonly do, especially in
the early days, Like if we had a phone conversation
that was in any way important, right, like, like I
mean really any phone conversation, if there was any way
that the other actor could be there, we would do
it that way. Because what you're left with if you
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don't do it that way, you would never have a
pre recorded voice of the other person because that would
be weird. You would have the script supervisor read it.
But of course the script supervisor is probably a woman.
They normally are I don't know why, and they're just
reading it kind of like without emotion or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So it's hard to do your.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Performance in the same way that you would do it
with the actual other actor. Right. So like even if
it was you know, I don't remember if I also
was in the other room to call Miranda, I could
have been, but I also could have been on another
set doing another scene, right, So you're always trying to
make it work out that you're free for the time
that they need you to do the other off camera,
(17:58):
you know, voice, which is your your performance, your side
of the phone performance, right, But I remember, like I
have an argument with Miranda coming up down the line
where I say, I choose my choice. I choose my choice.
Do you guys remember that? I remember one hundred percent.
She came and sat on my apartment set so that
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we could actually act with each other. I can't see
her because I'm on the phone, right, She's like behind
the wall. But you know, it makes a huge, huge
difference in your performance for phone conversations. I don't know
if everybody does that or not, but that's what we do.
That's what is preferable, I think. Anyway, Carrie, let's discuss.
Oh my goodness me, this is just like the height
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of Carrie's really intense drama, but also the height of
Sarah Jessica's like incredible acting, like incredible acting. I felt
like it was so real and grounded what she always is.
But just the guilt when you're just like just can
eat hardly think straight because you feel so guilty. And
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of course Aiden's just being super sweet, because that's always
how it is when you've done something bad to somebody.
They're being super sweet because they don't even know. It's
super interesting. So first we see Carrie and she's you know,
happy and kissing Aid and then she's saying that she's
going to go off with us, and he says, oh,
what do you guys talk about? And she says, oh,
(19:23):
you know, we braid each other's hair.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's really funny.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And then he goes, well, don't you talk about the
Fellas and.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
She's like, uh, well, you know, I guess it comes up.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Which I'm just laughing because, you know, this is like
the commentary about the show right at this point is that,
you know, we talk about men, and we talk about
men in the ways that people didn't used to think
women talk about men, which is all very interesting. And
then at some point he says something about his head
of hair or whatever. I can't remember why, and then
he says he's not losing any and then apparently later
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in the show we're going to see some rogue and
there's gonna be some conversation about So that's one of
those things that the Internet would be very upset with now,
but we didn't have Instagram back in the olden days,
so we got away with it, I guess. But she's
all loveyw with them is basically what I'm trying to say.
Then she goes off to see us at Samantha's new apartment,
and then she ends up confessing to Samantha, and then
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even though she wasn't supposed to see Aden that night,
she goes and knocks on his door, which was another
time that I thought about the now versus the then
when we were doing and just like that, we had
a scene where Chay knocks on Carrie's door and Miranda
opens it, and I personally got so many texts like
that would never happen. Why didn't Chae ring the bell
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down on the street like it's real like in reality,
And I was like, oh my gosh, you guys like
sometimes someone's coming out the door and you go in
the door. But now that like in a New York
City building. I don't know if that made sense, but
like you know what I'm saying, sometimes you don't have
to use the intercom because you can just go anyway.
My main point that I want to make is that
now that I'm rewatching the show show, I'm realizing that
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it happens.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
All the time in our show.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Big shows up at Carrie's and just bangs on the door.
Carrie shows up at Biggs with all the different outfits.
You think he's buzzed your up.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
No, people are not prepared and people show up at
their doors.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's just what we did because you know why, it's
dead screen time to watch people buzz. Now. I do
remember other scenes in Carrie's out because Carrie has a
little intertercom by her door where people would buzz. So
I guess if it's something interesting, we would have them buzz.
But it's not something interesting. It's dead time. We don't
have time. We only have twenty five minutes to do
the whole show, right, So that's why we don't do it,
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which is the same reason why we don't hug each
other every time we see each other or every time
we say goodbye. There is not screen time. There's no
hugging aloud. Anyway, back to this show, So Carrie ends
up going back to Aiden's apartment.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
She comes in.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
He's in a sheet, he's all adorable and he's like
massive sheet for his naked sleeping self. And she comes
in and you can tell she just so happy that
she has him and that he doesn't know the truth
about what she's been doing, and it's kind of sweet.
And then She's still struggling to try to get the
thoughts out of her mind a big and so she
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does all this organizing in her apartment, wearing the cutest,
weirdest little green like jumpsuit, one of her very unique,
you know, at home outfits. She's smoking a lot, and
then she calls Big and she's like, we.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Need to talk about what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And he's like now, and he's kind of his regular
dick self, if I might say, and she's like yes,
because you know, it was just a physical thing and
we are not going to be that immature and let
that rule us.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And he was like, we're not.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And she goes, no, we can, you know, go against
those urges. And he said, well, can you really do that?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And she's like yes. Cut to them in bed together.
So sad, so sad.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So I was really having a lot of mixed feelings
because I was on aid inside this whole episode. You know,
I don't know why. I guess it's just a on
the episode whose side I'm on. But they sleep together again,
and then Aiden's been out of town.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I left that out.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
He had to take a chair to someone in Pennsylvania,
which I'm like, wait and just like that. I think
he goes to Virginia, which is where he lives, but
in this time he has to go to Pennsylvania in
the truck. It's all very it's all very. Aiden has
a lot of similar similar through lines. So Aiden comes
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back and she's like, oh, I missed you so much,
and there's no sheets on the bed because they smelled
like Big. But Big had said he can smell Aiden
on the sheets, and she's so worried that Aidan's gonna
smell Big on the sheets, so she taken the sheets off.
And then, oh, Samantha, weirdly had said to Carrie in
(23:53):
the first scene, if Aiden hasn't said I love you yet,
then you're a free agent. And I thought that that
was so odd because why does Samantha care what the
guy is gonna say. Shouldn't it be up to the
woman if she's a free agent or not. Thought that
was really interesting. So then Aiden comes back and he says, Carrie,
I was thinking about something while I was gone, I
(24:15):
love you, and you can see carry just like man.
It's oh god, apparently now I'm not a free agent now.
And then she of course tells him that she loves him.
Back and then oh, this was so scary. It's like
maybe the next morning and the phone rings, and oh, Aiden,
proving he's so smart, is filling in the password the
sorry the crossword for her, which is like so impressive
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because there's this whole through line with the crossword puzzle.
I don't know if you guys remember where carry walks
down the street and she sees Big on the street
and he's trying to do the crossword and she leans
over and tells him a word in the crossword and
he looks up at her like, well, I didn't know
you were so smart, which of course he should have
known because she's a writer. So in this particular scene,
Carrie's doing the crossword puzzle and Aiden leans over and
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says and she says what and he says exotic animal
four down EMU and she goes, oh, well, I would
have gotten that, and he said, no, you wouldn't because
you have this word over here and it's wrong, and
I'm like, Aiden, awesome job. Then the phone rings.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
She picks it up. It's Big.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
He's like, I need to see you and she's like,
oh hey, Miranda, and you know, tries to carry it
off and he says, I'm downstairs and I'm coming out.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm coming up if you don't come out, and I'm like,
what a jerk, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So then Carrie's got Aiden upstairs and Biggest downstairs on
the street, and we've already seen that he's willing to
just show up, right, So she goes down there and
she says she has to walk the dog, Pete, and
you know what's coming, you guys. This is one of
the most terrifying, terrifying storylines in the whole show.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think she takes.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Pete, the adorable, innocent dog down with her. BIG's down
there wearing the weirdest like Hawaiian shirt. I don't even
understand what's happening with that shirt. And they're in the
beautiful village in the spring. It's gorgeous. Carrie's wearing her
adorable gym shorts and her red slides heels, and Big
is like, you know, I'm telling my wife tonight.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
And she's like, no, don't do that. She gets really.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Mad, and she gets she kind of gestures with her
hands and then she looks down and Pete's not there.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's run away. You guys. The anxiety I have watching
this scene.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I cannot live through it because I couldn't remember what
happened to Pete.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I was like, is Pete gonna be okay?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He's running through the West Village with all the cars
and all the people, and he's running full tilt, right.
So when she realizes he's gone, she runs in the
heels and they track along with her. The most gorgeous shots,
like the trees are blooming. It's just gorgeous. But it's
also terrifying because the dog is running through the traffic
and Big is running and huffing and puffing after her,
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and I was like, Big needs to work out more,
That's what I was thinking. And then Carrie, of course,
because Sara Jessica is a pro, she is running in
those heels like nobody's business. And I'm just so happy
she didn't an ankle because there's not even an ankle
strap on the shoes, right, they're just slides and she's running.
But this is who the woman is, guys, she really
does this. It's impressive. So she runs, she runs, She
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runs for three hours. She never calls Aiden, who's at
her house, because she doesn't have a cell phone, and
because she can't find his dog she thinks she's lost
his dog forever. Can you imagine, Oh my god, I
was dying. Then it starts to rain and she's wet
and her shirt is fully see through, which I did
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not remember, you guys, And this was in our peasant
shirt phase. We all, she bought me some peasant shirts.
We wore a lot of peasant shirts this one summer.
And her shirt and her bra or sea through and
I'm like, does Sir Jesca know that that thing happened,
because I don't know if she knows, but I felt
something anxiety about that, but most of those really anxious
about Pete. She goes home in total defeat, and thank god,
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Pete is there, you guys.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
He's at the apartment. He found his way home. What
a relief.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then Aiden says, basically, I can tell that you're cheating.
And she sits down and she looks crushed like she's
going to have to actually tell him. But what it
is is that he thinks she's been smoking cigarettes, and
so he says, you've been smoking, haven't you? And she's like, uhuh,
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And the voiceover says something like it was true and
it was true. Of course it's not the whole truth,
but it was in fact true. So then she gets
away with it, but not for long, as we all know.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But it's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I mean, I can't even live through watching that dog
run through the village though, I can't even watch it.
It's just really stressful, but just so good, just so
incredibly good. Oh my gosh, Oh should we read her
really excellent voice over in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I mean, this is one of those those episodes where
we were really I think cheating is just fascinating, is
that doctor Orner says. There's so many different reasons that
people cheat and different things why they might cheat or
what they might be trying to express. But I mean,
it's endlessly fascinating to me why people cheat and whether
they tell or don't tell, And you know, it's fascinating.
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So this is Carrie's initial, you know, thought for her column.
Since the since birth, modern women have been told that
they can do and be anything we want, be an astronaut,
the head of an internet company, a stay at home mom.
There aren't any rules anymore, and the choices are endless,
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and apparently they can all be delivered.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Right to your door.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
But is it possible that we've gotten so spoiled by
choices that we've become unable to make one The part
of us knows that once you choose something one man,
one great apartment, one amazing job, another option goes away.
Are we a generation of women who can't choose just one?
From column ad? We all have too much to handle?
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Or what's Samantha right? Can we have it all? And
I say no, we can't have it all, But I
think we can have it all, just at different times.
I think it doesn't. It's not possible to have it
all at once. That's what I think. That's what I
think we need to understand and give ourselves a break about,
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Like you're doing one thing now and you can do
something else in the future, or maybe you used to
be focused on one thing, but then you can change
your focus to a different thing. But I do think
it's hard to focus on everything at once because there's
just there's always so much time and energy and something's
going to suffer.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I hope that's not not a downer, that's like Kristin
not Charlotte, obviously.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But it's a really good episode.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I hope you guys enjoy it, Let me know your
thoughts on Instagram if you want to, and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Bye,
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are
you a Charlotte? Hello, everybody. We are just going to
have a little recap of All or Nothing. It's episode
three ten. It aired August thirteenth, in the year two
thousand and This is a really, really, really really good episode.
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It's one of my all time favorite episodes. Directed by
Charles McDougal, one of my favorite directors, and written by
Jenny Banks, one of my favorite writers. And in this
episode we have great people. Of course, we have Corbett
it's playing Aiden. We've got Kyle playing Trey, we have
Franny playing Bunny. We have Josh Hamilton playing George, whom
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I love so much. He's a great actor, you guys,
and his part's really funny. So this is the episode.
The gist of this episode is that this is when
Carrie has been cheating on Big. She has not confessed
to any of the friends that she has been doing this.
She is trying to just kind of move along with
Aiden as though it didn't happen, and focus on the
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fact that she has a wonderful boyfriend. And then she'd
be walking along and she'll have these flashbacks of the
sex with big, and then she's like, oh God. And
she's really really good when she has these, because I mean,
we've all been there, and she's you know, internally riddled
with guilt and trying to kind of somehow muddle her
way through, and she's like, I'm never doing it again,
(01:29):
and you know whatnot, so let's.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Basically, what happens is she's got these flashbacks. We come,
we start at Samantha's new apartment in the meatpacking district.
We're having this little like party.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Where one of the really funny, very.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Time type things we're talking about is how you can
have anything delivered, because Samantha says, I said, oh, did
you make these whatever we're eating, and she says, no,
I have them delivered, just like the dinner and the
drinks and the DVDs. And we're like, oh, you can
have DVD's delivered, Like it's it's so much the year
two thousand, it really makes me laugh. So she's like, yes,
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you can have anything you want delivered. Yesterday I had
condoms delivered. And then someone says, I hope you didn't
have sex with the delivery guy and she's like no, anyway,
it's pretty entertaining, and she goes to the window. Samantha
goes to the window and her this is her beautiful
new apartment in the meatpacking district that she bought. She
goes to the window and she opens the window and
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she kind of shouts to the meatpacking district like.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We've got it all.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Basically, she wakes up the next morning, she has these
huge windows, the sun is shining on her face, and
she is sick. Samantha is sick. We have rarely seen
Samantha sick. And she goes to try to shut the
curtains and she breaks her curtain rode. It falls on
her because she's kind of delirious because she's got a fever.
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And so then it's like, breaks my heart. This whole
montage breaks my heart. She starts going through her black
book and calling the guys that she casually has sex
with and asking them if they could come over and
hang her curtain rod, and all of them say no.
It is really sad to watch. I felt really really
bad for her, and I fully relate to this because
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it's tough being a single goal and having stuff break
around your house. And my advice is to call the
handyman I'm sure we all remember that Charlotte actually has
sex with her handyman in the second season because she's
so excited that he comes over and fixes something at
her house. I mean, I relate to all this. I
know it's probably very sexist for me to say this
or whatever, but it is very relatable, and.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I feel really bad for Samantha.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So eventually, luckily in the episode, Samantha calls Carrie and
Carrie does go over there to take care of her.
And I had fully forgotten that Samantha basically makes her
make the syrup that people in Atlanta drink, which is
like cold medicine codeine, which I don't think Samantha has,
(04:05):
and what's the drink, like Fanta or whatever. Yeah, it's
kind of funny. So she has Carrie make this medicine
for her, this drink, and she's like, give me my drink.
It's pretty funny. It's a pretty funny little scene. So
Carrie's over there with six Samantha. No wait, she confesses
after the party, I forgot. So once the girls leave
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the party, it's just Carrie and Samantha, and Carrie decides
that Samantha is the person that she should confess to
because Samantha might not judge her, which of course she's right,
and Samantha is a very good listener and says, you know,
I'm not going to judge you, and Carrie says, like,
go ahead, go ahead, judge me just a little bit.
Samantha's like, not my style, and that I thought was
a really beautiful moment, and I think it's great to
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have a friend who's not going to judge you. I
think that's important because obviously Carrie's being hard enough on herself,
which doctor Orna in our Companion episode this week does
say that Carrie feeling guilty is a sign of being
healthily integrated in your mind to your actions. So I
think that's very important that Carrie got the stamp of
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approval of being a healthy person from doctor Orna. And
I want all the people who hate Carrie to hear that,
because if she was really a full narcissist, she would
probably not even feel guilty. That Orna didn't spit that out,
but I think that's really what she was saying, is
that they compartmentalized to the extent where they're not even
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really necessarily aware of the things.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That they're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That they shouldn't be doing, so they don't even feel guilt,
which is terrifying to think of.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So Carrie is not that person. She's not that person
at all.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So she confesses to Samantha before Samantha gets sick. Samantha
is a very good friend, does not judge her, and
then Carrie tells Samantha it's not so. Samantha says, so
you're having an affair and Carrie says, no, no, no, no,
it's just this one time. So you're like mhmm, because
of course we all know that's not true. Then Carry
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goes after over there and takes care of her, which
is really adorable. Then Samantha's better and comes to my
engagement party, so we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So we find Charlotte in Burgdorf's.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
This is the scene I remember so well that I
talked to someone about Kyle. I guess we were in Burgdorf.
We had somehow hauled a big crane up there, and
Charletts wanted this shot, kind of an aerial tracking shot
through the China department. I don't know if you guys
remember in the first season, Charlotte goes out with the
guy that Carrie had dated because she thinks he's the
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marrying type, but then she does not date him when
they see some china in a window and he doesn't
like the pattern that she likes. He likes a different
pattern that she does not approve of. Charlotte has some
very specific opinions about china patterns.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So we're in Burgdorf. I'm flipping this plate over.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm looking at it, and then I'm looking at who
made it, and we did it like thirty six times,
That's what I remember. And Kyle's there, and Kyle comes
over and looks at the china and says, I believe
He says fourteen hundred dollars, which does seem insane, but
apparently that is the actual price of the actual plate
that I was holding, which.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Is also like crazy. I don't think I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Knew at the time that I'm like flipping over a
fourteen hundred dollars plate in burger If I think, I
would have been really scared. But Kyle Trey says, you know, oh,
you know. He kind of makes a space and he's like,
I can't afford that because we'll be eating ramen off
of this based on my china debt and Charlotte pouts
and then he's like, oh, I can't take that face.
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And I'm like, see, this is all because I saw
Bunny do that alrighty thing, you know, where she put
his hand on his arm and then he does what
she wants. But it's not a good relationship situation to
be pouting to get what you want. So I was like, wow,
I blank that part out. That was interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Tray's like, yeah, yeah, we'll register for that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And then I say, did you do your wedding your
engagement party list and he says, oh, yeah, I almost forgot.
So he gets these papers out, he hands them to me,
he walks away. The China saleslady's looking at us. I
think because we kiss or something. She's like disapproving or whatever,
which was interesting. And then I look at the papers
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and I see his really really messy handwriting, which I
was also interested in, like, I do not think that
that's Kyle's handwriting, but okay, and then I look at
a paper behind that and I say what's this and
he says, oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
A pre nup.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You know, it's just normal. Everyone in my family does one.
And I look kind of shocked. And then we he says, oh,
just have your lawyer look over it. We cut two
lunch with the girls. Who is my lawyer, Miranda, Miranda
Hobbs is my lawyer. She's reading over She's like, oh,
it's all standard. But Charlotte, Charlote's got some big eyes,
and she's like, but it's so unromantic. And basically she
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I'm saying, like is it?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And Miranda's saying, oh, it's just normal. You know a
lot of people get prenups. Carrie's like, oh, yeah, a
lot of people get prenups. And Miranda says, you know,
this is just an opening offer. You can negotiate. And
I say, but I don't want to. It's not romantic.
And she says, oh, you know, it's pretty standard. And
then she goes, oh, but this is odd. He has
you on a on a vestment thing something like that.
(09:24):
I'm not, obviously not not versed in prenup language, where
if you have a boy you get oh here it
is here it is for every five years they're married,
she gets a percentage of five hundred thousand dollars over
thirty years. I mean, that's lame people. And obviously Charlotte
feels the same way. And then if Charlotte were to
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have a boy child, she gets one hundred thousand dollars
free and clear. And then Carrie says, well, what does
she get for a girl? And Miranda says nada. And
as doctor Orna and I talk about, that is horrifying,
and for some reason Charlotte doesn't seem horrified.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Enough in that scene. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't know if I wanted to be horrified and
they didn't want me to be horrified, or if I'm
just generally upset and they didn't want me to be
specifically upset about that. But it does seem really fully
one hundred percent insane that somehow he would give me
one hundred thousand dollars if I had a boy baby,
but nothing if I had a girl baby.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What the heck? Man is just wacky.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And also, five hundred thousand dollars over thirty years, based
on every five years, that's a horrible deal.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's a horrible deal. So I hadn't really thought.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
About all these numbers, because back at the time, I
don't think I was paying attention to the numbers. I
think I was so stressed by the scene that I
knew was coming where I have to try to negotiate
with Bunny and the engagement party scene and I have
to say to her, I'm worth a million, which lives
on on the internet, which is of course a joy,
but at the time, so scared, you guys, to do
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that scene, so scared, so weird to do a scene
where you're actually saying a number, a figure of money
that you're worth to marry someone.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's very, very weird.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But when I watched the scene, I did really love
it because I love Franny Sternhagen, who's playing Bunny, and
I remember the scene because I was in such a panic,
and I remember Jenny talking to me about it. I
remember Charles talking about it, I remember Darren. I think
Michael Patrick, like so many people, had a lot of
ideas about how I was supposed to do it, and
(11:34):
I feel I feel like what they wanted was for
me to be very strong, and when I watched it,
I felt like I was strong.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Because I think just to even say it is strong.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
But I don't know if I delivered it the way
they wanted, because I remember feeling at the time that
I hadn't done what they wanted.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But when I look back on it, I think I
did fine.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's one of those ones where I'm like, see that
I was worried for no reason there. But I do
really like that scene because I don't feel like we
see stuff like that very often. And I also feel
like it is, of course showing us a lot about
that family that they would have this prenup that apparently
everyone in the family signs. That's kind of bonkers, right,
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And I do feel like Charlotte should have been worried.
But I also feel like when I say I just
really love him and I want to marry him, I
do think that's one hundred percent true. And also what
I've forgotten is like I go to the girls to
tell them like, oh, I did it. I negotiated with
Bunny and I signed the papers, and they're like great, baby.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And then they don't call me baby. They say great.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And then Kyle comes and says, can I steal my bride?
And I go off with him and I kiss, and
I think Sir Jessica Carrey says something like at the
end of the episode, I think she says something like
and then there were three. I'm just like, oh God,
it seems like I'm leaving them. I totally forgot about that.
But we all know it doesn't last, so it's gonna
be fine, you guys. But I had a moment of panic.
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I'm like, don't do that, Charlotte. Leave them, don't leave
them into a scary family. That's not smart. That's how
I felt watching it. I don't know how you guys
feel watching it, but that's how I felt. Okay, then
let's go back to Samantha for a second. Did I
carry everything?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yes? I did? I did. Oh no, I forgot. She's sick.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Carrie goes over there to make her medicine for her.
Samantha says some totally crazy Charlotte like things. It was
I didn't remember this at all. She basically says I
should have gotten married because there's no one to hang
her curtain rod right, and Gary's just looking at her
like who are you? And then later on, thank goodness,
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I mean, she just say we are all alone, Carrie,
and Carrie says, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We have each other, which is adorable.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And then luckily at the end, when Samantha feels better
to come to my engagement party, and Carrie says something like, yeah,
you were saying some crazy Charlotte like things. She says, oh, yeah,
I'm fine now you know I had a fever. And
you're like, oh, well, golly, that was scary. That was scary, Samantha.
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So let's talk about Miranda for a second, because I
had remembered that Joshua was on the show. I'm a
big josh Hamilton fan, but I did not remember this
part at all. So when we're at the early scene
where Miranda is reading the prenup to me, this handsome lawyer.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Walks by and he's like, oh, you're working over lunch and.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She's like yeah, and he said, oh, you sent me
to this hip restaurant. And Carrie's like him and looks
at Samantha, I mean sorry, Miranda like, oh, you're not him,
which is also funny. And then it turns out they
have a date that night, so they go on the
date and then they make out in the hallway, but
then the guy has to go his character's name.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Let's see, his character's name is George.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
George has to go back to Chicago where he lives,
and she says, you know what we do it agangst
is all very hot, and heavy in the hallway, and
he says, of course, I come and go all the time,
but there's also the phone, and she's like, okay. So
then they start having phone sex, and it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I feel bad saying this. It's a little cliched.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Okay, it's a little cliched phone sex where I had
to think through, like what do people actually say?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And I feel like it. I guess if you have.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Never had sex with the person and then you're having
phone sex first, which kind of seems odd, but I
guess that might happen in life, then you might just
go to kind of like the stock things that you
would say, which I feel like is what they're doing.
But I also feel that in the year two thousand,
we have probably not seen characters on television show having
phone sex, right, so so I'm going to give our
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writers a break there. But I did think, like, we
need to be more creative at our Phone sex was
really what I was thinking, because they were having basically
it seems like they're having phone sex every night, and
then the really entertaining thing happens, which is at.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
One point, oh, I forgot this.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
At one point, Miranda's having phone sex and I call
her about the prenupt to tell her that Bunny's not
going to negotiate, and I'm like, I'm in a panic
on the other line, but she's having phone sex. She's like, Charlotte,
I've got to go, and you can hear me trying
to talk to her and she clicks over right, which is.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Then the next time we see them having phone sex,
he gets another call and he clicks over and then
he comes back to continue the phone sex, but he's
skipped ahead in the phone sex to a part that
they weren't at, which alerts her that something is off,
and she's like, no, no, you were kissing my breast
and he's like, no, no, I was thrusting and she's like, no, no,
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you weren't.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We hadn't gone to that, and then.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He goes, oh uh, and she says, wait a minute,
and she sits up. Are you having phone sex with
other people? And he's like, well, Miranda, we never said
that we were exclusive. Like he's kind of entertaining, and
that's the end of George. We don't get to see
Q Josh Hamilton again, which is kind of sad. And
apparently I read in the notes that he was in
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the other room. He wasn't recorded pre recorded, And this
is something that we would very commonly do, especially in
the early days, Like if we had a phone conversation
that was in any way important, right, like, like I
mean really any phone conversation, if there was any way
that the other actor could be there, we would do
it that way. Because what you're left with if you
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don't do it that way, you would never have a
pre recorded voice of the other person because that would
be weird. You would have the script supervisor read it.
But of course the script supervisor is probably a woman.
They normally are I don't know why, and they're just
reading it kind of like without emotion or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So it's hard to do your.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Performance in the same way that you would do it
with the actual other actor. Right. So like even if
it was you know, I don't remember if I also
was in the other room to call Miranda, I could
have been, but I also could have been on another
set doing another scene, right, So you're always trying to
make it work out that you're free for the time
that they need you to do the other off camera,
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you know, voice, which is your your performance, your side
of the phone performance, right, But I remember, like I
have an argument with Miranda coming up down the line
where I say, I choose my choice. I choose my choice.
Do you guys remember that? I remember one hundred percent.
She came and sat on my apartment set so that
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we could actually act with each other. I can't see
her because I'm on the phone, right, She's like behind
the wall. But you know, it makes a huge, huge
difference in your performance for phone conversations. I don't know
if everybody does that or not, but that's what we do.
That's what is preferable, I think. Anyway, Carrie, let's discuss.
Oh my goodness me, this is just like the height
(18:40):
of Carrie's really intense drama, but also the height of
Sarah Jessica's like incredible acting, like incredible acting. I felt
like it was so real and grounded what she always is.
But just the guilt when you're just like just can
eat hardly think straight because you feel so guilty. And
(19:02):
of course Aiden's just being super sweet, because that's always
how it is when you've done something bad to somebody.
They're being super sweet because they don't even know. It's
super interesting. So first we see Carrie and she's you know,
happy and kissing Aid and then she's saying that she's
going to go off with us, and he says, oh,
what do you guys talk about? And she says, oh,
(19:23):
you know, we braid each other's hair.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's really funny.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And then he goes, well, don't you talk about the
Fellas and.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
She's like, uh, well, you know, I guess it comes up.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Which I'm just laughing because, you know, this is like
the commentary about the show right at this point is that,
you know, we talk about men, and we talk about
men in the ways that people didn't used to think
women talk about men, which is all very interesting. And
then at some point he says something about his head
of hair or whatever. I can't remember why, and then
he says he's not losing any and then apparently later
(19:56):
in the show we're going to see some rogue and
there's gonna be some conversation about So that's one of
those things that the Internet would be very upset with now,
but we didn't have Instagram back in the olden days,
so we got away with it, I guess. But she's
all loveyw with them is basically what I'm trying to say.
Then she goes off to see us at Samantha's new apartment,
and then she ends up confessing to Samantha, and then
(20:17):
even though she wasn't supposed to see Aden that night,
she goes and knocks on his door, which was another
time that I thought about the now versus the then
when we were doing and just like that, we had
a scene where Chay knocks on Carrie's door and Miranda
opens it, and I personally got so many texts like
that would never happen. Why didn't Chae ring the bell
(20:39):
down on the street like it's real like in reality,
And I was like, oh my gosh, you guys like
sometimes someone's coming out the door and you go in
the door. But now that like in a New York
City building. I don't know if that made sense, but
like you know what I'm saying, sometimes you don't have
to use the intercom because you can just go anyway.
My main point that I want to make is that
now that I'm rewatching the show show, I'm realizing that
(21:01):
it happens.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
All the time in our show.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Big shows up at Carrie's and just bangs on the door.
Carrie shows up at Biggs with all the different outfits.
You think he's buzzed your up.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
No, people are not prepared and people show up at
their doors.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's just what we did because you know why, it's
dead screen time to watch people buzz. Now. I do
remember other scenes in Carrie's out because Carrie has a
little intertercom by her door where people would buzz. So
I guess if it's something interesting, we would have them buzz.
But it's not something interesting. It's dead time. We don't
have time. We only have twenty five minutes to do
the whole show, right, So that's why we don't do it,
(21:36):
which is the same reason why we don't hug each
other every time we see each other or every time
we say goodbye. There is not screen time. There's no
hugging aloud. Anyway, back to this show, So Carrie ends
up going back to Aiden's apartment.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
She comes in.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
He's in a sheet, he's all adorable and he's like
massive sheet for his naked sleeping self. And she comes
in and you can tell she just so happy that
she has him and that he doesn't know the truth
about what she's been doing, and it's kind of sweet.
And then She's still struggling to try to get the
thoughts out of her mind a big and so she
(22:12):
does all this organizing in her apartment, wearing the cutest,
weirdest little green like jumpsuit, one of her very unique,
you know, at home outfits. She's smoking a lot, and
then she calls Big and she's like, we.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Need to talk about what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And he's like now, and he's kind of his regular
dick self, if I might say, and she's like yes,
because you know, it was just a physical thing and
we are not going to be that immature and let
that rule us.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And he was like, we're not.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And she goes, no, we can, you know, go against
those urges. And he said, well, can you really do that?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And she's like yes. Cut to them in bed together.
So sad, so sad.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So I was really having a lot of mixed feelings
because I was on aid inside this whole episode. You know,
I don't know why. I guess it's just a on
the episode whose side I'm on. But they sleep together again,
and then Aiden's been out of town.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I left that out.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
He had to take a chair to someone in Pennsylvania,
which I'm like, wait and just like that. I think
he goes to Virginia, which is where he lives, but
in this time he has to go to Pennsylvania in
the truck. It's all very it's all very. Aiden has
a lot of similar similar through lines. So Aiden comes
(23:32):
back and she's like, oh, I missed you so much,
and there's no sheets on the bed because they smelled
like Big. But Big had said he can smell Aiden
on the sheets, and she's so worried that Aidan's gonna
smell Big on the sheets, so she taken the sheets off.
And then, oh, Samantha, weirdly had said to Carrie in
(23:53):
the first scene, if Aiden hasn't said I love you yet,
then you're a free agent. And I thought that that
was so odd because why does Samantha care what the
guy is gonna say. Shouldn't it be up to the
woman if she's a free agent or not. Thought that
was really interesting. So then Aiden comes back and he says, Carrie,
I was thinking about something while I was gone, I
(24:15):
love you, and you can see carry just like man.
It's oh god, apparently now I'm not a free agent now.
And then she of course tells him that she loves him.
Back and then oh, this was so scary. It's like
maybe the next morning and the phone rings, and oh, Aiden,
proving he's so smart, is filling in the password the
sorry the crossword for her, which is like so impressive
(24:38):
because there's this whole through line with the crossword puzzle.
I don't know if you guys remember where carry walks
down the street and she sees Big on the street
and he's trying to do the crossword and she leans
over and tells him a word in the crossword and
he looks up at her like, well, I didn't know
you were so smart, which of course he should have
known because she's a writer. So in this particular scene,
Carrie's doing the crossword puzzle and Aiden leans over and
(24:59):
says and she says what and he says exotic animal
four down EMU and she goes, oh, well, I would
have gotten that, and he said, no, you wouldn't because
you have this word over here and it's wrong, and
I'm like, Aiden, awesome job. Then the phone rings.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
She picks it up. It's Big.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
He's like, I need to see you and she's like,
oh hey, Miranda, and you know, tries to carry it
off and he says, I'm downstairs and I'm coming out.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm coming up if you don't come out, and I'm like,
what a jerk, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So then Carrie's got Aiden upstairs and Biggest downstairs on
the street, and we've already seen that he's willing to
just show up, right, So she goes down there and
she says she has to walk the dog, Pete, and
you know what's coming, you guys. This is one of
the most terrifying, terrifying storylines in the whole show.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think she takes.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Pete, the adorable, innocent dog down with her. BIG's down
there wearing the weirdest like Hawaiian shirt. I don't even
understand what's happening with that shirt. And they're in the
beautiful village in the spring. It's gorgeous. Carrie's wearing her
adorable gym shorts and her red slides heels, and Big
is like, you know, I'm telling my wife tonight.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
And she's like, no, don't do that. She gets really.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Mad, and she gets she kind of gestures with her
hands and then she looks down and Pete's not there.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's run away. You guys. The anxiety I have watching
this scene.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I cannot live through it because I couldn't remember what
happened to Pete.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I was like, is Pete gonna be okay?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He's running through the West Village with all the cars
and all the people, and he's running full tilt, right.
So when she realizes he's gone, she runs in the
heels and they track along with her. The most gorgeous shots,
like the trees are blooming. It's just gorgeous. But it's
also terrifying because the dog is running through the traffic
and Big is running and huffing and puffing after her,
(26:49):
and I was like, Big needs to work out more,
That's what I was thinking. And then Carrie, of course,
because Sara Jessica is a pro, she is running in
those heels like nobody's business. And I'm just so happy
she didn't an ankle because there's not even an ankle
strap on the shoes, right, they're just slides and she's running.
But this is who the woman is, guys, she really
does this. It's impressive. So she runs, she runs, She
(27:10):
runs for three hours. She never calls Aiden, who's at
her house, because she doesn't have a cell phone, and
because she can't find his dog she thinks she's lost
his dog forever. Can you imagine, Oh my god, I
was dying. Then it starts to rain and she's wet
and her shirt is fully see through, which I did
(27:30):
not remember, you guys, And this was in our peasant
shirt phase. We all, she bought me some peasant shirts.
We wore a lot of peasant shirts this one summer.
And her shirt and her bra or sea through and
I'm like, does Sir Jesca know that that thing happened,
because I don't know if she knows, but I felt
something anxiety about that, but most of those really anxious
about Pete. She goes home in total defeat, and thank god,
(27:51):
Pete is there, you guys.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
He's at the apartment. He found his way home. What
a relief.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then Aiden says, basically, I can tell that you're cheating.
And she sits down and she looks crushed like she's
going to have to actually tell him. But what it
is is that he thinks she's been smoking cigarettes, and
so he says, you've been smoking, haven't you? And she's like, uhuh,
(28:20):
And the voiceover says something like it was true and
it was true. Of course it's not the whole truth,
but it was in fact true. So then she gets
away with it, but not for long, as we all know.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But it's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I mean, I can't even live through watching that dog
run through the village though, I can't even watch it.
It's just really stressful, but just so good, just so
incredibly good. Oh my gosh, Oh should we read her
really excellent voice over in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I mean, this is one of those those episodes where
we were really I think cheating is just fascinating, is
that doctor Orner says. There's so many different reasons that
people cheat and different things why they might cheat or
what they might be trying to express. But I mean,
it's endlessly fascinating to me why people cheat and whether
they tell or don't tell, And you know, it's fascinating.
(29:10):
So this is Carrie's initial, you know, thought for her column.
Since the since birth, modern women have been told that
they can do and be anything we want, be an astronaut,
the head of an internet company, a stay at home mom.
There aren't any rules anymore, and the choices are endless,
(29:33):
and apparently they can all be delivered.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Right to your door.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
But is it possible that we've gotten so spoiled by
choices that we've become unable to make one The part
of us knows that once you choose something one man,
one great apartment, one amazing job, another option goes away.
Are we a generation of women who can't choose just one?
From column ad? We all have too much to handle?
(30:02):
Or what's Samantha right? Can we have it all? And
I say no, we can't have it all, But I
think we can have it all, just at different times.
I think it doesn't. It's not possible to have it
all at once. That's what I think. That's what I
think we need to understand and give ourselves a break about,
(30:24):
Like you're doing one thing now and you can do
something else in the future, or maybe you used to
be focused on one thing, but then you can change
your focus to a different thing. But I do think
it's hard to focus on everything at once because there's
just there's always so much time and energy and something's
going to suffer.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I hope that's not not a downer, that's like Kristin
not Charlotte, obviously.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But it's a really good episode.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I hope you guys enjoy it, Let me know your
thoughts on Instagram if you want to, and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Bye,
Host
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