If you want a sense of how the UK economy is fearing, and how to get into business, then James Caan is your man.
The British-Pakistani entrepreneur went from no degree to starting a recruitment company to becoming one of the most respected and successful entrepreneurs in the UK and a government advisor.
He was a former dragon on Dragons' Den and his latest recruitment company, Recruitment Entrepreneur has gone from strength to strength.
So much so, that he's bringing it to New Zealand - and James Caan joined Mike Hosking.
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